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« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2003, 08:29:27 PM »
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What's that lil thang? Is that anime noseart? ;)

(Seriously ... sharp)


I guess turret art would be more accurate.








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« Reply #61 on: April 24, 2003, 08:37:28 PM »
Closer inspection reveals it's not anime! Good. I have faith. :D

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« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2003, 08:44:30 PM »
I did not realize the JDF still flew the Rising Sun.

Silly me! I thought that was abandoned long ago.

Meanwhile, anyone getting the impression George Bush Jr. Is the "Closer" for other Presidents?

*laughs*

I mean, he finished Iraq for his Dad, He's now eyeball to eyeball with Korea to help out old Harry S.

Whats next? Are we going back to Vietnam?

:D

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« Reply #63 on: April 24, 2003, 08:49:58 PM »
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I did not realize the JDF still flew the Rising Sun.

Silly me! I thought that was abandoned long ago.

Meanwhile, anyone getting the impression George Bush Jr. Is the "Closer" for other Presidents?

*laughs*

I mean, he finished Iraq for his Dad, He's now eyeball to eyeball with Korea to help out old Harry S.

Whats next? Are we going back to Vietnam?

:D


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« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2003, 08:55:27 PM »
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I did not realize the JDF still flew the Rising Sun.

Silly me! I thought that was abandoned long ago.

Meanwhile, anyone getting the impression George Bush Jr. Is the "Closer" for other Presidents?

*laughs*

I mean, he finished Iraq for his Dad, He's now eyeball to eyeball with Korea to help out old Harry S.

Whats next? Are we going back to Vietnam?

:D



I thought it was a Japanese naval flag.  Surprisingly, their army is flying the sunburst flag or whatever it is called.

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« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2003, 11:12:39 PM »
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Right dutch. But a single NK missile hitting Japan is enough to legally condone the entire JDF overrunning NK.


Ahhh... western thinking.  This is not the case in Japan.  For example, if a man shoots at me with a gun first, while I do have the right to subdue him, I am not allowed to even put a scratch on him.  Any injury that I put on him would be considered an excessive use of force.  And I would be charged with physical assault.  That is the law in Japan.  The concept of self-defense is not the same as the United States or in Europe.

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Yes, the SK's wont be happy, but then again, they will likely be VERY GLAD that the JDF forces are helping out. Itd be like Iraq kinda.. happy that they are there while the bullets fly, but getting pissy n' french after the lead flingin' stops.


If sh*t hits the fan, I sure hope that we can help out and I hope the South Koreans would be glad in such cases.  However, given our past...

In case of a conflict on the Korean peninsula again, logistics will be a problem for us as we are incapable of offensive tactics.  Our constitution is written in English by the Americans, modelled after the American constitution, with an amendment saying we are not allowed to arm.  Cold War dictated that on a practical level we needed to adequately defend our country from the threat from the north.  Our Self Defense Force, while armed, is not considered as a military force, but more in the nature of a police force whose jurisdiction is within the borders of Japan.  We can defend, but an offensive is a tactic not considered in the development of the Self Defense Force.

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« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2003, 11:27:44 PM »
From MSNBC site:

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The North’s Korea People’s Army vowed to “put all people under arms and turn the whole country into a fortress” and urged its soldiers to become “human bombs and fighters ready to blow up themselves” to protect leader Kim Jong Il.

“If the U.S. imperialists and their followers intrude into even an inch of the inviolable sky, land and sea of the [North] ... the [army] will deal merciless deadly blows at the aggressors,” North Korean Defense Minister Kim Il Chol was quoted as saying by KCNA.


Who else talks like that?

Why do these guys always sound like they're reading from an old 1950's "C" movie script?
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #67 on: April 24, 2003, 11:41:23 PM »
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Who else talks like that?

Why do these guys always sound like they're reading from an old 1950's "C" movie script?



Because they learn to speak English by watching 1950s-era American "C" movies. ;)

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« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2003, 06:19:40 AM »
Guys..N-Korea aint no joke. This ISNT an Iraq. A conflict w/NK would bring ALOT of body bags home people. It wouldnt be no walk over. The NK's are alot different than the Iraqies..ALOT. The family in charge has developed as serious cult of personality...its like a bunch of rabid Moonies.

NK has has the means to hit Soul for along time... and it would NOT surprise me if they had nukes. The thing to remember is that they WILL use them. No doubt about it..they will.

The NK's are like a bunch of inbreed whisky drunk crack addicts from the hills of W Va.

The entire situation is very very dangerous....
Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2003, 07:31:42 AM »
So?

What do you do about it now? Give them everything they want immediately? How long do you think the world will be able to appease them? What message will you be sending the other crackpot dictators?

Not to worry.... we have the UN SC on the job even as we type here.
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« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2003, 07:47:06 AM »
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But a single NK missile hitting Japan is enough to legally condone the entire JDF overrunning NK.

How exactly would Japan get its army to NK?

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« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2003, 08:21:43 AM »
Has anyone considered the possibility of a full Nuclear Exchange?

Some folk posting here say that NK is a tough nut and they've GOT NUKES!!!

Your right, they are a tough nut, but do they have the balls to use those Nukes?

If they do, would we not be allowed to unleash our ICBMs?

Of course, if a Nuclear Missle came toward Hawaii, or California, we would have every right to light them up like there is no tomorrow, and for them...well, there would not be.

I would assume, we can do the same if they launched a Nuclear attack on SK, or Japan. Am I correct in this assumption?

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« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2003, 08:26:50 AM »
Ra, theres a FERRY that runs for 10 minutes from the tip of Japan to South Korea... just under the border with NK. Not to mention warships, transports, etc.

Dutch, you cannot possible believe your government will just allow NK to lob a missile and hit one of your cities and just "let it be". You fellas are not in an Israel-like situation; if you get hit, the only ones getting in deep **** are those that lobbed the missile. And the JDF is not a "defensive" force, its an actual military with full offensive capabilities; they are only limited by the constitution. True, it is not as large or as radically massively armed as the US, UK or Australia, a "defense force" cant be justified if its big. But you can bet your arse the JDF is ready to perform any offensive action it may be called upon.

I dont mean to tell you how things are in your own country, far from it! All i'm trying to say is one thing is what is advertised for the benefit of the public (including international public) and another is cold, logical reality. No military ever exists without it having contingency plans for offensive operations, the JDF is no different, and given its purpose and the reason for which it was created, its virtually guaranteed they are ready to go out and kick arse.

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« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2003, 08:57:40 AM »
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Has anyone considered the possibility of a full Nuclear Exchange?


I'd much prefer surgical nuclear strike over a full exchange?  So much more tidy that way!  That way the massived EMP won't destroy the whole SK and Japanese industry.  But, that's just a thought."

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« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2003, 09:03:33 AM »
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Because they learn to speak English by watching 1950s-era American "C" movies. ;)


Hehe, similar reason South Korea has such a high highway fatality rate, they learned to drive from American GIs.
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