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« Reply #225 on: May 04, 2003, 10:48:36 AM »
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A military M16 is fully automatic.


No it is not.

The M-16A2 that is issued to our troops is single shot semiauto,or three round burst.

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« Reply #226 on: May 04, 2003, 11:52:17 AM »
yes very bored

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« Reply #227 on: May 04, 2003, 01:12:19 PM »
my idiot list

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imp...u know what a m1-a1 is?? no you dont..its a semi-auto 30-06

anyways....MORONS!!!!!

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impy says--M16 bullets are designed to go through armor, how many criminals have that?  [The right to own firearms carries responsabilities, kids can get hurt when people arent careful. I know it happens once in a while in Canada. The US is probably alot worse.

CLASSIC..."Probably worse" FUK canada..I boycott there crap

You have the right to own firearms, but some are not designed for civilian use.

LIKE WHAT?? A TANK!??

Military weapons should never be owned by civilians. How do you control what they use it for? You just cant.

Moron- Cars kill more people..so no what?  What military weapons do we get? ya I guess the 9 mil is a reallly bad gun..

Freedom is a double edged blade./QUOTE]

YA an idiot like you doesnt hold it by the Handle huh??


 
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beetlemoron-You have to register a car - why not a gun?
..complete idiot..Golly-geeit..now they know who u are and where your guns are..fuk..u are dumer then evere..

DO YOU UNDERSTAND OURCONSTItution!!....HOW CAN YOU HAVE FREEDOM LIKE THAT??..YOU CANT..THIS PREVENTS GOV FROM BEING your oWNER/...moron


You peopl are the same ones saying President Bush is Like Hitler..im not one of these nice guys..I would split your lip for saying such sht to my face:D...seriously..But the more you talk..the bettr we are..cause you say Golly-gee stupid sht..This does prove morons can stay alive!!  

whaa stay out of our Country..we will continue to recruit your smartest from you countries and keep making us such a SUPERIOR Country.!!! I LOVE USA!!!!,,Burn in hell to all our enemies

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« Reply #228 on: May 04, 2003, 01:28:39 PM »
IMP you truly are clueless, and typcial of how the last 10 years of Liberal Government has brainwashed the public as to what is, and what is not dangerous.



Fully Automatic fire is no more or less dangerous to the public than a single shot .22 rifle.  It comes down to the user, and his intentions, and his skill.  

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Of course the 30 06 as more power, but its not automatic.


Oh really?  Ever here of the BAR?  It's chambered in 30-06, and is full auto.  Please, stop trying to make arguments with things you don't know about or understand.



As for "armour piercing" ammunition, the only type of AP ammo banned by law in Canada is for PISTOLS only.  Grap a copy of the criminal code and firearms act and read it yourself.  We sell thousands of rounds of AP rilfe ammo out of our shop every year.  

Also, in terms of penetration, ANY high powered rifle that is firing a non-frangible bullet (99.9% of the ammo out there, at least) will penetrate any civilian body armour here in Canada, every Armoured Car you've ever seen here, as well as multiple walls/dwellings.  Of the 15 million + firearms in Canada, over 8 million of them are high-powered rifles.  They are no more or less dangerous to the public than an AR-15, of which there is at least 500,000 in civilian hands in Canada.  Just shops I worked for alone represent over 100,000 units moved in 15 years of this variant of rifle.  I have 10 different variants of the M16/AR15 in my vault in my basement, and that is miniscule compared to some people in Canada.


As for pistol rounds being better for defence than rifle rounds in an urban environment, that is likely true.

That said, most Tac units out west here have moved to a M4 Carbine in .223, including Vancouver city, Calgary TAC and numerous others.  Using the proper ammunition, the public is put no more at risk than from pistol caliber fire, and there is much greater chance of stopping the suspect, especially at longer ranges.  This puts officers AND the public at less risk.

IMP, you shouldn't comment on things in the USA regarding this issue when you are uninformed with regards to it in your own country.


http://www.canadiantactical.ca

http://www.theshootingedge.com



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It does prevent you from owning military weapons, which are of no use to civilians anyway.


Haha, ahahahah.

http://www3.telus.net/public/gcorn1/Mar26%2304.JPG

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http://www3.telus.net/public/gcorn1/m4_203.JPG

I can go on.






As for the number of guns/gun murder ration in Canada, rest assured that 8 million guns isn't even half of what is here.   Based on sales figures from Western Gun companies in the last 25 years, there is that many in Alberta and BC alone.

There was about 850 deaths from firearms in 2002.  85 were NOT suicides.  Of those, over 50 were a "visible minority".  

Still, take the lie-beral stat of 8 million firearms and divide it by 85 deaths.  Good reason to "register" all those dangerous firearms, it's for the children after all, and it may save "just one life".
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« Reply #229 on: May 04, 2003, 05:23:19 PM »
Imagine if we could harness all that brainpower all you gun nuts have expended studying and learning about guns.  A truly untapped source of genius.

A cure for world hunger maybe?

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« Reply #230 on: May 04, 2003, 05:29:36 PM »
LOL!  Sounds like a veiled insult.

You assume that is my only hobby, or that shooters are not as intelligent or educated as you eastern Liberals?

I'm a private pilot, I golf, I play PC games, I write/read, I play Chess.  I was a Pro Paintball player, I've played in the worlds #1 Drill Bagpipe band for 15 years.  The only place I've ever came under attack is with firearms.  Why is that?

Why not flip your question around Bowser?  If all you anti-gun people spent the time and money you do on trying to destroy one of my hobbies, you could cure cancer.  Considering the Canadian government spent nearly one and a half billion on a gun registry that has no hope of preventing crime, and less than 33 million/yr on Cancer research since C68 was initiated, you should probably look in the mirror before starting a circular argument like that Bowser.

The side you support spends 471$ per cancer death per year for research.

They also spend 250,000$ per gun related death per year implementing the firearms act.
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« Reply #231 on: May 04, 2003, 05:31:50 PM »
Attention Bowser, you have been PWN3D.  :)

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« Reply #232 on: May 04, 2003, 05:33:10 PM »
Go easy on him gman.  His stats got thrown back in his face and he's a little sensitive right now.

Hell.. maybe he'll even take the time to read the initial post in this thread.  If he has the attention span for it that is.  Then maybe he could go solve world hunger.

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« Reply #233 on: May 04, 2003, 05:33:19 PM »
conservative dogpile 234,624

also no way to argue.

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« Reply #234 on: May 04, 2003, 05:35:16 PM »
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Fully Automatic fire is no more or less dangerous to the public than a single shot .22 rifle.  It comes down to the user, and his intentions, and his skill.  

 


2 users, same skill, same intentions... I think I can say 'nuff said'.

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« Reply #235 on: May 04, 2003, 05:35:53 PM »
BTW Gman... "Proffessional Paintball Player".  Best to leave that one off the resume you dork.

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« Reply #236 on: May 04, 2003, 05:36:07 PM »
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Imagine if we could harness all that brainpower all you gun nuts have expended studying and learning about guns.  A truly untapped source of genius.

A cure for world hunger maybe?

bowser


Perhaps if you anti-gun people spent as much time doing the same,instead of ridiculing us you might achieve the same.

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« Reply #237 on: May 04, 2003, 05:37:30 PM »
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2 users, same skill, same intentions... I think I can say 'nuff said'.
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« Reply #238 on: May 04, 2003, 05:39:42 PM »
Haha Deja, don't worry, that's never made my resume.  I only brought it up because Paintball is very sociably acceptable here in Canada, yet shooting sports are not.


Mid Targut, you're right.  What I was trying to get over the table to the person that was directed at is that a firearm of any type and description is lethal when used by a trained person against a crowd of unarmed people, while the reverse, a full auto M16 used by someone who had never touched a firearm would result in a lot of noise, 90% misses, and fewer dead than the anti-gun movement would have the public believe.

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« Reply #239 on: May 04, 2003, 05:42:36 PM »
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