Trinity curse

[Fariz]

Afraid couple more trinity rotations and my squad will just stop to exist. People reject to fly this one. Really not good for strat players, at least with 32 people squad limmiter as it is now.

Bishops squads COs, interested in some cooperative actions, contact me pls.: fariz@warriormage.com

[mipoikel]

Im interested. Pls send orders and plans 1 day before action.

[SLO]

lemme talk to Busher comrade general Fariz.....

I'm sure 418 Hornets would join.....

we joined your 202 and KI missions:D

was great seeing 30 202's giving Rooks a run for there money....

[Replicant]

Same problem Fariz, quite a few in our squad (especially me!) hate Trinity because it's always in rotation in AH.  I often log when I see it and mostly fly just weekends now instead of every day.

But, if we can all work together and get Trinity booted off quicker, then we may get some support!

!

[Toad]

OK, I'll admit I'm not a fan of Trinity either.

The interesting thing that I see, though, is that I have to become what I dislike in order to rotate the map.

No offense to anyone in this thread but in order to reset this map, we need to mob up in overwhelming numbers and "steamroller" our way to a reset, porking fuel at adjacent bases, etc., etc., etc.. Goofing the enemies bases so that the majority of their troops have to fly endless goonie missions to resupply up to a point that they can actually fight back.

This is "fun"?

This type of gameplay is EXACTLY what is currently turning me off in AH, a game I used to love as my favorite form of recreation.

When I have more fun just horsing around in the DA than I do in the MA, it forces me to evaluate how to redistribute my small amount of recreation time.

Maybe this is a whine.. I'll have to let my betters evaluate it for me.

If this is what online ACM has come to, it's not my idea of fun. If it is yours, I you and wish you well.

I still do squad nites with my squaddies but that's pretty much the extent of my AH now. I will play on the other maps unless the 200 plane steamroller of strat mode is in effect that particular night too.

Maybe I've just failed to adapt and like the dinosaurs, it's time to sink into the swamp.

As I said, if you enjoy that stuff, I salute you. I find the fault in myself, not the game or the other players. I blame no one but myself.

[Revvin]

I enjoy the extended runs of Trinity it's one of the best maps AH has at the moment.

[Fariz]

Originally posted by Toad
OK, I'll admit I'm not a fan of Trinity either.

The interesting thing that I see, though, is that I have to become what I dislike in order to rotate the map.

No offense to anyone in this thread but in order to reset this map, we need to mob up in overwhelming numbers and "steamroller" our way to a reset, porking fuel at adjacent bases, etc., etc., etc.. Goofing the enemies bases so that the majority of their troops have to fly endless goonie missions to resupply up to a point that they can actually fight back.

This is "fun"?

This type of gameplay is EXACTLY what is currently turning me off in AH, a game I used to love as my favorite form of recreation.

When I have more fun just horsing around in the DA than I do in the MA, it forces me to evaluate how to redistribute my small amount of recreation time.

Maybe this is a whine.. I'll have to let my betters evaluate it for me.

If this is what online ACM has come to, it's not my idea of fun. If it is yours, I you and wish you well.

I still do squad nites with my squaddies but that's pretty much the extent of my AH now. I will play on the other maps unless the 200 plane steamroller of strat mode is in effect that particular night too.

Maybe I've just failed to adapt and like the dinosaurs, it's time to sink into the swamp.

As I said, if you enjoy that stuff, I salute you. I find the fault in myself, not the game or the other players. I blame no one but myself.

And who force you to fly the way, you do not like to fly? It is always some fields to go up from with 125% of fuel, and some people to fight.

By other words, if you do not love to play for strat, play for furballs. This game has enough place for everyone.

[ccvi]

Hm...


Warbirds: 1 map/month - 50 players prime time.


Aces High pre-Trinity: 5 Maps in equal rotation - 500 players prime time
Aces High post-Trinity: 1 map 90% of the time - 200 players prime time.


Now that's probably what is really going wrong at WBs

[Toad]

Well Fariz, was up last nite and found a relatively decent small furball on Trinity. Of course, it was a bit of a "drive" to get over to it, so early war planes were pretty well out of the question as the nearest bases had had their fuel knocked down to 25%.

Rude and I took 51's as 25% allows a bit of a fight. As it turned out, we went over there as fast as we could, only climbing to about 5k. Had one or two decent engagements and kills each and then ran out of gas as the next wave of 2-4 came in.

Tried this about twice, got tired of running out of gas so quickly. We logged.

As I said, I admit the fault is mine. I no longer have the patience to cruise for 15 or 20 minutes to get to a fight that can't last very long.

When I find myself alt-out to surf while I'm trying to get to the action, I know I personally have problem.

[Fariz]

Originally posted by Toad
Well Fariz, was up last nite and found a relatively decent small furball on Trinity. Of course, it was a bit of a "drive" to get over to it, so early war planes were pretty well out of the question as the nearest bases had had their fuel knocked down to 25%.

As I said, I admit the fault is mine. I no longer have the patience to cruise for 15 or 20 minutes to get to a fight that can't last very long.

When I find myself alt-out to surf while I'm trying to get to the action, I know I personally have problem.

Toad, I fly AH all the posible ways just not to be tired of it. I fly it as a furballers, strat, for k/d, for scores, for killstreaks etc., though lately almost exclusively first 2. Though it is sometime when it was hard to find fights, due to distances, alts, fuel status etc., but usually it is not a problem at all. May be we fly at different time zones, and when you are online situation is different?

[Zippatuh]

If there is only really one aspect of the game you enjoy I don’t see trying another to fill the fun void.

The fact for Trinity is there are only a few bases that are at the right locations that promote good A2A fights and furballs.  Make the bases 20-25 miles apart and there will be better fights.

Flight times are just too long.  Bombing, haven’t tried it since the new calibration, vehicles, I like to fly.

[RightF00T]

Originally posted by Toad
When I find myself alt-out to surf while I'm trying to get to the action, I know I personally have problem.

And God forbid you get shot down while Alt-tabbed out.  Thats 20 mins more of downtime .

[anton]

would reducing the map by say 10-15% in overall size & Mtn alts be a feesable solution? I actually like the map exept for 3 things:
1) Too far between fields
2)Mtns placed between fields just too high
3)Top 2 countries almost always team on bottom. (when was the last time an upper country was reset on trinity? anyone?)

[Pongo]

Love it.
My favorite map.
Only the CT finland-russia map compares

[Fariz]

Originally posted by anton
would reducing the map by say 10-15% in overall size & Mtn alts be a feesable solution? I actually like the map exept for 3 things:
1) Too far between fields
2)Mtns placed between fields just too high
3)Top 2 countries almost always team on bottom. (when was the last time an upper country was reset on trinity? anyone?)

SW country always resetted on Trinity. West country always win a reset. BTW it is 4th time in a row rooks get west.

I personally do not think map is bad. I like it more, than, for example, pizza or baltica. But biggest problem is time it takes to be resetted. One of the things which keeps me in AH is map diversity, and adding Trinnity was a good step, just would like it to be resetted faster, than in 2 weeks. Seing same map day after day, getting fields just to find tomorrow it is all the same, is not good.

That is why I am not asking to remove it from rotation, I am looking for solution. There are several. Map may be redesigned, couple bugs removed, and vehicle spawn made both way, not one way like now. Will make this map much easier to reset. It may be added a forced switch, which will get us to next map after 5 days. Third solution is players can cooperate strongly to reset it. Because first 2 are beyound my control, I am trying for third.