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Offline llbm_MOL

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« on: January 14, 2001, 08:31:00 PM »
Pure suicide.

I want the old WB's auto instead of this b29 uber guns crap. Tired of it. If a buff is coming to base he's got a free pass from me. Not ever attacking one again untill the guns are changed. I dont wanna hear about all you uber buff killers cuase I think your full of it. Ive tried every suggestion made to kill a damn buff and some of them work ...about 20% of the time. Not good enough odds for me. If you get one frigging ping from a buff gun thenyour getting hit by every 50 cal that can "see" your plane. Pure roadkill.

LLB OUT!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2001, 08:47:00 PM »
come high right at around 350, makes for a hard shot for buff, after pass climb and repeta, thats all ive got.

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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2001, 08:47:00 PM »
Yup - I've made that same vow myself...more than a few times.

That is, unless I'm with a wingman or two, or a few other guys are there also going after it... or I'm feeling just plain suicidal. Ya really need to coordinate your attack with someone else.

Fahgett otto though! Just bring a friend.

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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2001, 09:18:00 PM »
Hey, llbm, I graduated from Clear Creek H.S.

Adjustable otto or super-duper fire control.  Hobb's choice.

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2001, 09:35:00 PM »
Bahh!

Buffs are easy. From tour 11....

hblair has 7 kills and has been killed 2 times against the Lancaster III.

hblair has 9 kills and has been killed 0 times against the Ju 88.

hblair has 11 kills and has been killed 3 times against the B-26B.

hblair has 10 kills and has been killed 4 times against the B-17G.

...and I don't consider myself good at it. As good as LLBM is in a fighter, he'll come around on the bombers.    


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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2001, 09:38:00 PM »
 
Quote
Originally posted by TheWobble:
come high right at around 350, makes for a hard shot for buff, after pass climb and repeta, thats all ive got.

wobble ive been 400ias+ and i diving, curving
attack and didnt make it past 900 out.

buff guns are BS, along with thier 40k alt ability. if a p47 had the leath of 8 50s like
8 50s of a buff, it would be more gun poweer thena chog.


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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2001, 09:41:00 PM »
Hi

I dont care how many of those "50" cals
shoot at me, as long as they make them Golly-geen 50cals like on the fighters. Killing out to 1.4, killing with 1 ping, fankly those are not the 50cals as on fighters. So buff drivers make a choice real 50cals and B29 aiming, or buff super "50"cals and some other aiming system. Otherwise I want "gameplay" adjusted gun setting for my figher when the computer realises im attacking a bomber - lets say Hispano balistics and 30mm warhead explosive power. Sounds good to you guys??   I too am trying to avoid bombers as of late. Please Re-evaluate how the whole buff gun issue is handled, I know that the buff guys have some valid points but the current solution is both unrealistic and considering the destruvctive effect and 100% accuracy a lone bombers has- very unfair to defending fighters.

thanks GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2001, 10:08:00 PM »
There is a trick to kill buffs.

Once you learn it no buff will kill you as long as you have patients.

EYE

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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2001, 10:09:00 PM »
welcome to the club, LLM. I've been there, done that since Tour 3 more or less.

I've attacked the occasional spawning ackstar, but few things more...

ah, forgot...and Ju-88s  

Offline llbm_MOL

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2001, 10:29:00 PM »
Gadfly as in WB's Lizard King is from Clear Creek!!???   AWWWWWW toejam! hehehee No wonder your such an Ahole   Your just as bad as me!  

I graduated from Dickinson bro  

LLB OUT!!!!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2001, 10:33:00 PM »
B17's and B26's and TBM's are the only turbolaser armed buffs. Lancasters and Ju-88's have ok guns. It takes a HELL of a lot of lead to down a ju88 and a lanc, and the buff does ping you like mad, sometimes kills, most of the time damages your systems, etc.

American bombers with their turbo.50cals need some serious tuning down.

As said above, there IS a trick to kill bombers, and that is to spin around the buff's flanks so that the pilot/gunner is so busy switching between guns that they wont be able to track you.

I took b17 and b26 last night for some sorties and its UNREAL how easy it is to kill a fighter. I killed several at d1.3. They were trying to get in front of me by flying at a distance parallel to my buff. I just squeezed one tracer every sec to see where the tracers fell, then when I thought it was close I let out a long squeeze... one ping and that fighter was a wreck. The second fighter came from the top-right doing the same thing.... same trick... 2 pings, that plane blew up in a spectacular fireball. and yes, at d1.1+ range.

This is absolutely ridiculous. From both a fighters point of view (which ive squeaked about from a lot) and from a buffs point of view. Those crying to keep their turbolasers are just seeing themselves forced to fly in some kind of formation or getting a wingman. Hell, if I need a wingman or a "gaming" trick (aka, swoop around buff so gunner is busy switching guns when I fire at it) to down a buff then I sure as heck want to make that buff pilot get himself escorts OR a wingman to protect himself with.

Equality to .50's. Down with Turbolasers! LONG LIVE THE YAK!      


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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2001, 10:53:00 PM »
Beurling has a good point, the best way to kill a buff is to kinda annoy it to death, sont just zoom in and attack, stalk it for a while, then get your self positiones to where the buff will NOT have a straight on shot at you as you approach dont bear down and fire till he dies, cut in fast fire a 2 second blast and turn before he can track in on you, it takes longer but you are likley to live and there is a good chance ya can run him outta ammo

Offline RAM

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2001, 11:00:00 PM »
Sure Wobble, and you do that on 40K buffs?

and when they have "little friends" nearby?

I definitely let engaging on-the-way bombers since, in 1.01 I died on a high speed dive on the 1 o clock of a bomber, firing all 4 cannons of my Fw190A8.

The bomber survived. Me not. The answer I got to the message on the forums whas "you were facing 5 50 cals, buddy, is normal you died". 50 cals? lol. turbomegafluxlasers.

I still recall a mission loooong way back in 1.00 or 1.01, flying with JG2, I flew as gunner on a B17 mission to the Bish HQ (remember it as if it was yesterday) and achieving hits at 1.8K.

So, to the hell with that crap. Gameplay, and sorry, my prettythang. They already have the pinpoint laser-guided bombsight, dont understand why must they carry on board more firepower than the USS Excelsior.

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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2001, 11:06:00 PM »
You don't know how easy it is to kill a buff.  lancasters are easy, no botom guns.

B17's are the trickiest i think, but if you come in from the side high and roll, i get kill all the time with that. I don't see how u complain about buff guns. Maybe they gave buffs good guns because usually they are flying ALONE not like in ww2. Rarely do i get escort.Remember i was watching this thing on the Histroy chanel today, and they said to send out b17's in daylight was suicide without escorts. We get better guns cause we never have escorts.

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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2001, 11:15:00 PM »
"Maybe they gave buffs good guns because usually they are flying ALONE not like in ww2. Rarely do i get escort.Remember i was watching this thing on the Histroy chanel today, and they said to send out b17's in daylight was suicide without escorts. We get better guns cause we never have escorts."

Sorry bud, but if I, the fighter require to have 2 or more buds with me to shoot your lone buff butt down, I sure as heck think its fair for YOU to get a wingman or 2 and fly in box formation or get an escort.

To get one thing clear, I truly believe the .50's on buffs ARE the same ones on the fighters, the difference is that the buff guns seem to have perfect convergence. If ONE bullet hits you, so do all the other guns that were facing you. So a lucky ping achieved while spraying the air around the con is the equivalent of having a P-38's guns hitting you without deflection.

Strato buffs are not as common now as they were before, but they are still out there... at 32k where fighters stall at the slightest pull of the stick (and aint that good for em turbolasers? heehee).

Heeey.. make the acks REALLY accurate at 22k+.. blast em cosmonauts hehehe...