B17's and B26's and TBM's are the only turbolaser armed buffs. Lancasters and Ju-88's have ok guns. It takes a HELL of a lot of lead to down a ju88 and a lanc, and the buff does ping you like mad, sometimes kills, most of the time damages your systems, etc.
American bombers with their turbo.50cals need some serious tuning down.
As said above, there IS a trick to kill bombers, and that is to spin around the buff's flanks so that the pilot/gunner is so busy switching between guns that they wont be able to track you.
I took b17 and b26 last night for some sorties and its UNREAL how easy it is to kill a fighter. I killed several at d1.3. They were trying to get in front of me by flying at a distance parallel to my buff. I just squeezed one tracer every sec to see where the tracers fell, then when I thought it was close I let out a long squeeze... one ping and that fighter was a wreck. The second fighter came from the top-right doing the same thing.... same trick... 2 pings, that plane blew up in a spectacular fireball. and yes, at d1.1+ range.
This is absolutely ridiculous. From both a fighters point of view (which ive squeaked about from a lot) and from a buffs point of view. Those crying to keep their turbolasers are just seeing themselves forced to fly in some kind of formation or getting a wingman. Hell, if I need a wingman or a "gaming" trick (aka, swoop around buff so gunner is busy switching guns when I fire at it) to down a buff then I sure as heck want to make that buff pilot get himself escorts OR a wingman to protect himself with.
Equality to .50's. Down with Turbolasers! LONG LIVE THE YAK!