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Offline Rude

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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2003, 12:22:08 PM »
Rude say's the direct confrontation of plane vs. plane pleases more folks than that of plane vs. structures....those of you who prefer the latter are obviously confused and have chosen the wrong game....please move along.

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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2003, 12:37:51 PM »
Two Fuel bunkers can be created by changing the values of another object. It can already be done, so my point is moot. If you want a map where the large air fields have hardened fuel bunkers(or representing a buried fuel bunker), you just have to make one.

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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2003, 01:23:05 PM »
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Of course he did.

But its a double edged blade. One plane can take out fuel at one base wether you have 4 or 100 bases.


I disagree. When a country has just 4 bases, there are so many of the players flying around those that it's not that easy to get in and pork something. With more bases than players OTOH...

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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2003, 02:25:55 PM »
muck... I think the numbers will be dilluted by a continuous running "missun" arena... the reason people go to the events is because they are so rare and special..

I think that all the new features of the "missun arena" (minus the missun) will be in the MA too.

fuel and dar down is not fun for guys who want to log on for an hour or two.   I think all the limeys must be devoid of an outside life as most of em want to play some glorified board game.

beetle... take down FH's, fuel or whatever... the basic AH strat remains.... the team with the numbers is the steamroller... Not only that but... if it is a huge boring difficult to wade through map like infinity.... the team with the most numbers is the steamroler but... if their numbers drop then the new team with the most numbers is the steamroller... all the building batting in the world don't change that .... it is pre ordained... destined.   you can't change it... those with any sense don't even try...  
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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2003, 02:52:31 PM »
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muck... I think the numbers will be dilluted by a continuous running "missun" arena... the reason people go to the events is because they are so rare and special..

I think that all the new features of the "missun arena" (minus the missun) will be in the MA too.



It is my understanding that all the features of AHII will be in AH classic, minus the organized missions, so you are correct.

I have to disagree with your first statement, from my point of view. I would play ToD every day if it was available. I simply enjoy a structured enviornment, with a set goal and reward for accomplishing the mission. I especially enjoy the teamwork that can be found in a large mission. Now, teamwork can be found in the MA without missions, and it's also very entertaining, but not as easily found. I've always appreciated games that let you attain rank, and earn things. (Ie: better planes, better maintained planes, etc.)

Now, I will play AH classic when I only have 30 mins and need my AH fix. But when I sit down for a 3 hour session of gaming, I'll be in the mission arena.

You have to remember, you're talking to a guy who's second favorite game is Civilization III.

I think you and I have very different taste when it comes to gaming.

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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2003, 03:22:29 PM »
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I simply enjoy a structured enviornment, with a set goal and reward for accomplishing the mission.


"God punishes us by fullfilling our strongest desires" (C) do not remember who.

I expect AHII to be a game, I am looking for during last 20 of my 33 years of life, but may be it better not be it. :)
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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2003, 03:42:49 PM »
Lazs, when AH2 comes out, you know what I'm going to say to you?





Come towards the light. :D  ROFL...

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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2003, 03:53:37 PM »
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Have there been other threads that give an indication as to who plans on playing AHII exclusively?



Once AH2 is released and anyone that still plays AH will pretty much be flying AH2 exclusively as there won't be any more original AH.  Now if you're talking about the ToD theaters in AH2, I still think the majority will fly in the revamped Main Arena.  Sure, the numbers in the ToD theater will be high for the first few months but as the novelty wears off and boredom sets in, players will flock back to the Main Arena to get their fix for a fight.


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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2003, 04:32:49 PM »
I will most likely go to both arenas.

As I said earlier. The main for the quick fix, the ToD arena when I can concentrate and dedicate a serious block of time.

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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2003, 05:21:24 PM »
I think that, by far, the vast majority of HT's coding time is going into the new graphics engine and of course, there's a ton of attendant changes to the art work. It's being designed in house as far as I know.

I seriously doubt that the AI/Mission Generator aspect of AH2 is anywhere near as huge a project as the graphics engine & artwork project.

However, I'm deleriously happy that the "strat" contingent are getting something they think they want. I want everyone to be happy. I'm deleriously happy that guys that like the CT HAVE the CT, too.

It's all good.
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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2003, 05:38:42 PM »
There's strat in AH? :)
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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2003, 06:46:01 PM »
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Once AH2 is released and anyone that still plays AH will pretty much be flying AH2 exclusively as there won't be any more original AH.  Now if you're talking about the ToD theaters in AH2, I still think the majority will fly in the revamped Main Arena.  Sure, the numbers in the ToD theater will be high for the first few months but as the novelty wears off and boredom sets in, players will flock back to the Main Arena to get their fix for a fight.


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The scenario that AKAK describes is the one that accords most closely with my own prognosis. Wonder how the steamroller will fit in...

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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2003, 06:36:31 AM »
Who is airborne long enough to use more than 25% fuel?

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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2003, 08:16:05 AM »
Me for one, i never take less than 75% and only then for the p51 or F4U-1 (huge tanks).
But then again i always aim to stay alive to rtb.

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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2003, 09:06:40 AM »
LOL Since when does getting shot down constitute a suicide run?
Suicide is when you intentionally get yourself killed or intentionally crash.
People who fly to a base,pork it,then intentionally auger so they can hurry up and do it again are suicides. Not the ones that simply get shot down. LOL if getting shot down was a prerequisite for being labeled a suicider then  you could lay that label on 99% of all the people that fly. I just looked it up and as of this posting in the "fighter" category the even the number 1 ranked fighter only lands 50% of his flights. After that the next 3 land only a little better then 1/3 of their flights. and that ratio only proceeds to get worse as you go down the list.
Most players int he game while are not suiciders are fly till ya die type players.
Just think about your own flights. How many times do you all actually get to land your flights compared to how many times you have taken off?

 Admittedly many many times, I am one of your hated base porkers. But I certainly do NOT intentionally get myself killed thus Im not a suicider. LOL I have every intention on surviving my run to at least try to return to base. Unfortunately it doesnt usually work out that way LMAO. just the same is it doesnt usually work out that way for all of you.
 Why do I insist on porking bases? Typically I pork the base that is sending hordes upon hordes of aircraft that are doing the exact same thing to over run the bases of my country and hanging around in usually massive numbers to vulch anything that moves.
Lately I've changed my primary target to that of the Barracks as opposed to the fuel when I see a fight going on of roughly the same amount of numbers on either side. This is an intentional move on my part to appease the furballing crowd.But as soon as I see then enemy side is gaining an advantage making the fight  unfair or I see MY bases being bombed and hoarded. Sorry but your fuel  and ammo has got to go bye bye. More often then not it is the only way to save your base's from being over run by the hoarders.
 So, when I stop seeing massive hoards over the base of my country. I'll stop reducing your modes of transportation and fighting ability to that of Ox cart and slingshots.
I dont fly for rank or score. I have a rather novel approach to the game. I fly for whats best for my country. And if because of the hoards attacking us  requires me to pound your base till its unusable so be it.
Therefore you have two options.
1- you can stop trying to splatter and /or try to over run MY bases.
2- Try and stop me.

 heh Good luck! LMAO

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OK, I like the strategic part of the game, but I am seeing why players are complaining about it and I have to agree. I'm seeing one F6F take  fuel down to 25% for a large airfield. They come in and take all the fuel down and get shot down. A suicide run.

This is not acceptable. I can see why guys are complaining about it. What we need to find is something that will be acceptable for the strategic guys and the non strategic guys.

Two thoughts

1.) To make the fuel bunkers harder to take down

2.) Two different kinds of fuel bunkers(heavier bunkers for larger fields)

I like the strategic part of the game, but I have to agree with the non strategic guys on this. One plane should not be able to take fuel down for an airfield.
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