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Offline Naso

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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2003, 05:31:28 AM »
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hands off from spitfire or i start lobbing to perk c205 and c202:) :D

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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2003, 08:19:57 AM »
You got my vote, Kweassa. Very reasonable and balanced.
Hope HTC is listening.

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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2003, 04:26:36 PM »
yeah perk em :)
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2003, 09:22:30 PM »
I agree!  Good proposal, Kweassa!

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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2003, 11:19:03 PM »
Add me in too.


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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2003, 10:36:22 AM »
CHeers, I'm all for it, but lets try it out next tour +)
I may even fly some...


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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2003, 11:32:57 AM »
Well thought through idea. I'd like to see it tried.

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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2003, 12:40:43 PM »
I'm all for this. I always thought it would be a good idea to perk everything that wasn't in production when Germany invaded France (or some other appropriate date). Of course it would be hard to attract new customers when you can't immediately (as a noob) jump into the legendary P51-D. But conversely, noobs get clubbed like baby seals (no matter what they fly) and I assume AH gets new customers just the same.

I don't think Hitech will be willing to try and sell a game that limits the plane set, even in this mild form.

But hey, I like it! Heck, I fly the F4U1-C all the time, thats why I have no perks Then I have to go and get 4-5 kills in a P40N to get me some perks back...it's like a coke habit

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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2003, 01:29:41 PM »
For it.

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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2003, 02:43:27 PM »
For it.

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2003, 02:02:14 AM »
Sign me up too!
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2003, 06:32:08 PM »
LA5...LA7,,,still have to get close and conserve ammo. Tap the trigger, Kill with 10-20 rounds and so forth. Not enough difference in performance to matter which I fly. Russian planes are good tools.  And LA5 with early mid war planes is like Chicken Hawk in Capitolist Farm yard...more so than LA7 now in the current plane set. I flew LA5 in AW...it did a good job there to.

For what its worth from a junior member....my vote is "Yes" also.

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2003, 02:32:54 PM »
I like the idea about the Modifications to existing perk planes, but dont go perking the P51D and niki and so on... because all those planes are virtually all vunerable and can all be killed easily and loosing 3 perkies here and there will add up sooner or later

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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2003, 04:12:57 PM »
Well thought out and articulated, but when in doubt, the fewer rules, points, and qualifications the better.  AH2 will be more or less a rolling plane set anyway, won't it?  

If early, mid and late equipment is only available in AH2 as it became available in WWII, why have any perk points at all based on equipment perforance?  Won't the limited life career progressions take the place of perk points?

WWII pilots flew what their units had, period.  Isn't AH2 supposed to be more like a combination of Combat Theater and rolling plane set, i.e., making perk points an obsolete issue?  

Depending on the scenario, one of the best attractions of Combat Theater now is finally getting to again try whatever ride you want without fiddling with perk points.  Combat Theater simulates the equipment in place at the time.  If what you want is at the base you select, fly or drive away and don't clutter your mind with perk points (okay, some of them have wee teeny perks, but not much).

The biggest downside of perk points in any venue is they make the best pilots even more formidable since they can most afford the premium rides.  Particularly in environments such as Combat Theater and AH2, keeping the best rides as equally available as possible to newbies and less skilled pilots seems to be the fairest combat equalizer as well as keeping Aces High appealing to new members and their inevitable learning period.
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2003, 05:15:34 PM »
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The biggest downside of perk points in any venue is they make the best pilots even more formidable since they can most afford the premium rides.  


The more i see this given as reason for not using perks the more i think its really not very accurate, Most of the veterans of AH dont use perk rides very often.There are many out there that have thousands and thousands of spare perks which they rarely spend.

I actually get the impression there are only a VERY few who would regularly fly a perk ride.Most of them seem to fly much older models as far as ive seen.

Theres also another myth used to say perks are wrong and that is that new players cant fly the perk rides while others with the perks to spare who are more experienced can and they will abuse it by picking on the easy planes.
Well sure this would be true if all aircraft that are perked are set at a very high price like 70 etc.meaning it takes weeks to earn enough perks But what most have been calling for concerning the top 4 used aircraft is a very small perk price of 1 or 2 or 3.
So how long would it take a complete newbie to gain 2 perk points even if he had minimal experience of flying games? Im only guessing but surely within a days playing he will have been able to bomb a few structures or even shoot someone down if they got lucky.Also consider a complete novice will be on a 2 week free trial and so is hardly going to complain that some of the game isnt immediately available.Why would they? they have no idea what planes are what and have all the fun of learning it ahead of them.If they cannot manage this then they wont care whether they learn in a 1943 aircraft or a 1945 one will they?

What we seem to have is a situation where we dont try a new idea because:
 a minority of players (so called newbies) who generally are not paying subscribers being assumed to be incapable of learning(according to some they should be allowed to fly the best aircraft very early on to help them).
Then you have paying customers only able fly in an arena where 4 types of aircraft make up at least 50% of their engagements . They ask for a system that HTC introduced to be put to use and people complain they are out of line to be ruining the newbies chances of fun.

Am i the only one who sees this as a little wrong?

Im all for making a newbie welcome and helping them but are they really going to appreciate the top aircraft when they struggleing to learn everything in those early days? They wont suddenly have it easy in the aircraft mentioned by karnak above anyway would they?

You see what i mean? I think we are using these statements which i see often as a way to just stop any attempt at exploring the perk system.People who state them often claim 'HTC obviously doesnt want to perk these planes' when its HTC who added the perk system!! AND when they perked the F4uC they didnt tell anyone until it was done. They also claim no one in AH wants it.

well this thread seems to say something different doesnt it.Seems many would like to see a change of MA engagements if only for a tour!

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