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« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2003, 07:31:02 AM »
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No offense, you know I love you Brits!
Oh, and speaking of food, can you PUHLEEEEZE clarify what the attaction of blood sausage is?

;)

Do you mean black pudding?

Delicious at breakfast with a spoonful of lingonberry preserve. High in available Iron good for you etc. (its a bit high in saturated fats tho).

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« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2003, 10:32:10 PM »
far more easy merchant targets were sunk then warships.


wouldnt claim that as an awesome military.

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« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2003, 09:44:13 AM »
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Neither.  I was just curious at the tenor of your previoius post.  Seemed you were insinuating that there was something negative in that deal for Italy or how the U.S. went about it.  Better aircraft, better price!  What more could you want!

As for knowing you are smart, my paternal grandparents were smart enough to immigrate to U.S. in the 1920's.  But then, they insist that they wre Siciliano, not merely Italiano!

Bythe way, I once worked with a man with the last name of
Pouzzouli!.  Anyone named the town notied in your avatar?


There's nothing bad in the deal, nor I want to imply a judgement, business is business.

But there's a fact usually ignored:
giving the maintenance to US personnel means that there will be no know-how transfer, and in the improbable case of a disagreement between the governments, one of the retaliation cut be to deprivate my nation of a good part of the air defence.

It's not a "strategic" perfect choise made by my government, dont you think?

A good deal cut have been the Mig29s, the plan was to let our industry to work on the "refreshment" of the avionic, and in the successive Hardware maintenance.

The Mirage affair was a no, with the little advantage of a partecipation in the Airbus Industries.

For the Siciliano part, my family comes from Sicily, and, since i am born in Naples, I am Napoletano.
There's still a strong feel the old Southern Kingdom, in fact the northern military forces conquered southern Italy no long time ago (end of 19 century). :)

A lot of immigrants in the beginning of the century were named after their birth city, 'cause was easier for the custom officers.

Remember "Don Vito Corleone"?

Corleone is near Palermo, in the interior.
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« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2003, 10:30:43 AM »
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But there's a fact usually ignored:
giving the maintenance to US personnel means that there will be no know-how transfer, and in the improbable case of a disagreement between the governments, one of the retaliation cut be to deprivate my nation of a good part of the air defence.

It's not a "strategic" perfect choise made by my government, dont you think?


It doesn't matter if we would have offered the deal, but insisted that Elvis be painted on the tails. The point is that Italy took the deal based on the package, so you really can't single out any one part of the deal say it's not fair or right.


If Itally didn't like the US maintaining the planes and was worried that a future rift between the governments would impair them, they should have taken another deal.


What if you and I made a deal that I was going to sell you a car, but part of the deal was that I get to sleep with your wife. You gonna take the deal and complain it was unfair or are to gonna tell me to f-off???
« Last Edit: May 26, 2003, 10:33:48 AM by NUKE »

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« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2003, 10:38:33 AM »
Nuke, instead of jumping in defence of a supposed attack on your mighty and sacred Nation....

Why dont you stop a bit and realize that I am criticizing (sp?) MY frigging government decision?

eh?

;)

You seem to see US bashing everywhere, even when ther'isnt.

:)
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« Reply #65 on: May 26, 2003, 10:54:58 AM »
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Nuke, instead of jumping in defence of a supposed attack on your mighty and sacred Nation....

Why dont you stop a bit and realize that I am criticizing (sp?) MY frigging government decision?

eh?

;)

You seem to see US bashing everywhere, even when ther'isnt.

:)


When did I say or imply that I was defending a supposed attack on my "mighty and sacred nation"?

Nasa, I wasn't seeing it as an attack on the US, just a complaint about the deal Italy took. Why do you have to become sarcastic? I wasn't becoming defensive but you seem to be .

From your posts, I didn't see were you complained about Italy's decision but rather seemed more to be complaining about the US terms of the deal. And from that understanding ( the way I saw it) I was just pointing out that you can't complain about a deal that you agree too.

Nothing nationalistic in my argument.

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« Reply #66 on: May 26, 2003, 11:03:16 AM »
Well, Galileo just got approved.

Go figure :)

Daniel

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« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2003, 02:42:44 AM »
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When did I say or imply that I was defending a supposed attack on my "mighty and sacred nation"?

Nasa, I wasn't seeing it as an attack on the US, just a complaint about the deal Italy took. Why do you have to become sarcastic? I wasn't becoming defensive but you seem to be .

From your posts, I didn't see were you complained about Italy's decision but rather seemed more to be complaining about the US terms of the deal. And from that understanding ( the way I saw it) I was just pointing out that you can't complain about a deal that you agree too.

Nothing nationalistic in my argument.


My nickname is Naso :mad:

;)

You are too serious :p

P.S.
I will never buy a car from you (with those conditions). :D

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« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2003, 04:10:18 AM »
a new EU-GPS system ? why not, competition is good.
Whats new for me, is germany really building with france a carrier fleet ?
never heard about. Not that i didnt trust in german engineers ;) but this
sounds sci-fi to me.
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