since most of us play more then 1 game i though some of you would be intrested...

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by LockDown
To those mature AH players like banana, and those who are kindly staying out of this immature pissing contest, I think WWIIOL would be a fun game for you guys to try during the free trial period at least.  If ya choose to and wanna play axis, goto http://www.sghq.com/wwiiol and join up with us there at SG to see how fun this squad based game can be.    Wont hurt to try for a couple of days.

Does AH have a free trial I can try?

Sure. 2 weeks...no credit card necessary, free download, free H2H and offline...(why anyone would play offline...I have no idea!0

http://Http://www.flyaceshigh.com

If you'd like some training to get you wheels up faster, send me an E-mail and I'll meet you in the training arena.

jpizzo127@yahoo.com

[LockDown]

Originally posted by muckmaw
I tried to read the thread on the WWIIOL board and I have some questions:

Whats does "pwned" mean?
-"owned"

What does "133T" mean?
-"Leet" as in elite

How do you pronounce "R0xx0r".
-Rocks

I'm dead serious! I have no clue what these terms are. I've seen them once or twice, but never in such massive use on the WWIIOL board.

Just when I thought the english language could not get any more slaughtered....

It's just slang guys make up to be funny and make a niche for themselves

[ZeroAce]

Yup...and it really is free.

WW2OL's trial is 100% free.

You only have to pay if you want to continue past those 7 days.

[LockDown]

thanks

I'll e-mail ya and try AH out today or tomorrow.  Depends on how annoying the wife is.

[straffo]

Originally posted by ZeroAce
FYI: CRS builds their planes in a psyhical world, then they use that table data to test and verify that their plane was built correctly.

Perhaps ,last time I checked (some 2 year ago it was not the case) progress have surely been made but to late for me I feel robbed and wont be back.

Plus as a frenchman I canno't support the idea to fly the over France without the most important plane of this period : the MS406 (I'm speaking only of the fighter part of the air force)

Their planes hit all the numbers, but they handle more realistically because you can't replicate all the nuance of flying with a table simulation... You would have to in there by hand and adjust the behavior of every plane.

Wrong ,just because a joystick will never behave like a real stick.

The nuances you can feel depend of the size of the discrete value of your lookup table (it's function of the availlable memory).

I'm pretty sure a extremly precise physic model can be built but you have to check of the horse power needed ...

The pyshics based model does all that for you.

It show the differences in behaviour in this  simulated environement ,for instance in almost all FPS I'm a L33T sniper where IRL I'm a pretty loosy shot ...

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Yes. Now of course they make it a little more detailed by adding multiple damage locators, different levels of HP, (wings vs fuselodge) and a things like a set amount of drag to lose when your wing gets X amount of damage...

Then your original statement would be wrong- if there are variations in the way a, lets say plane, can be rendered damaged- then it does not happen the same. way. every. time.

I've been playing these kinds of games since warbirds first came out.

Amazing that you haven't picked up much about how the internal components of these games work and how their calculations are rendered.
-SW

[LockDown]

how much is AH monthly?

oh and check out the SG recruitment video!  It's big but size does matter !

http://www.wsbn.com/files/SGHQ_Big_HighQuality.zip

tell me what you guys think.  I would appreciate the feedback.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by LockDown
how much is AH monthly?

7.95 a month if you call HTC direct and ask for Skuzzy.

[Mighty1]

Hardcase.....I mean Zeroace I hate to tell you but I've given WWIIO 4 tries and it STILL sucks.


How many times do you have to step on a turd before you realise it's a turd?

CRS are the most devoted to their community that I have ever seen in a MMOG

OMG this is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. These guys couldn't be any more abusive to their customers if they tried.

[Furious]

Originally posted by ZeroAce
FYI: CRS builds their planes in a pshyical world, then they use that table data to test and verify that their plane was built correctly.

Their planes hit all the numbers, but they handle more realistically because you can't replicate all the nuance of flying with a table simulation... You would have to in there by hand and adjust the behavior of every plane.

The pyshics based model does all that for you.

Be honest now.  You really have no idea about the advantages or disadvantages of either scheme, do you?  

You are just spouting off the littany of verbal diarrea initially relayed to you by someone else who probably had their head up just as far up their bellybutton a you do.  

It'd be ok to admit it.  It's not like we could think less of you.

But if you are sure you are correct, please post some verifiable statistical data as proof.

[LockDown]

can i get HTC's number

[straffo]

The main point of both game is : have fun.

Arguing in a BBS is a bit sterile

[LockDown]

I also notice yall have alot of computer time like me.  Have yall played Nukezone?  http://www.nukezone.nu ?  That's a blast to play when ya have alot of internet access and a few minutes during a break.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by ZeroAce
That's the beauty of a pyshics based model.

In real life, all it took was one lucky bullet to pass through the glass and hit the pilot in the head to end it.

In real life, sometimes you could spray a plane without hitting anything vital, just peppering his aircframe with drag inducing holes.

It doesn't have the same appeal when planes take X amount of hits to kill, and always take X amount of hits to kill. every. single. time.

Fly their Stuka and bullets passing thru glass seem to defy physics.

Taken from a post on the WWIIOL site ...

"The chickenpit glass will stop pistol/SMG bullets dead from the front and sides. The GLASS. Not the sides of the chickenpit..... they let them through.

Rifle fire still penetrates..... but at what ranges? How long does it take for a rifle bullet to slow down enough to be stopped by this "armour glass"? I'm almost willing to bet that at 400 yards plus 7.5mm and .303 are bouncing off the chickenpit like hail."

continued in the thread ...

"How much armour is on the pilot seat back? I thought it was supposed to be 8mm?

It stops .303, 7.5mm, .50 Vickers, all dead but not 20mm Oekilon AP, or 25mm AP. Given the penetration of the vickers .50 at 11mm that puts it somewhere between 10mm and 25mm.


I'd also like to point out that the canopy on the stuka stops .455 webly, .45, and whatever the french pistol and SMG use completely except for a small patch right at the rear where the gun sticks out.

The fueslage stops 7.5mm and less. But not .50 cal vickers.


Something is really, REALLY wrong here. The amount of armourglass needed to stop a .45 round on an area the size of a stuka canopy would weight half a ton.


Oh, and it doesn't matter if the canopy is open or closed. It still seems to protect the pilot..... Despite the fact that a Rat recently posted that the protection is removed if visibly open..... [he was talking about 109 but you'd think the same was true for all aircraft]."

Here is Ring's response ...

"BTW.. the bullet has to hit the glass... the meat armor... the back seat... the armor plate..
that tends to slow it down a tad..."

and a response back ...

"I tried from a slight angle to get around the gunner. Still no effect.

BTW. This is ordinary old plexiglass. It shouldn't have much affect on a .50 cal slug. Not at 20 meters range.

More to the point. If it's stopping .50 cal SA from 20 meters..... how is 20mm Ball supposed to do anything?

The canopy definatley should not be stopping .45 bullets.


The stuka is majorly screwed up.

If the canopy is mistakenly stopping bullets..... then how about shrapnel? Blast?


Between pilot armour thicker than panzer decking, and an armourglass canopy..... no wonder it's a pig to shoot down. and been left that way for two freeking years."

two freeking years !!! hmmmmmmmmmm

There are others stories of 110s consistenly turning inside of Spits and the the 110 is the choice of the newbie in WWIIOL. If that the preferred choice of a newbie, then there has to be something wrong.

Take your monkey and your grinder somewhere else and beg.

[veruca]

that should be better...