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« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2003, 02:33:51 PM »
Just put the fields so close together (e.g. half distance than now) that both attackers and defenders can up from a different field that the war is fought over.

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« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2003, 02:34:13 PM »
slap... not so sure that field capture per se is too easy..  i do think that field porking is too easy.   I would not be opposed to field capture occuring automatically after all the objects were knocked down including the manable ack.
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« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2003, 02:47:36 PM »
Hey, here's an idea.

Add more ports so that there will be more carriers.  Then you can move the carriers as close to each other as you want.

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« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2003, 02:50:14 PM »
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So why not take off from a rear base that's farther back?  You need only choose a base that, in real terms, represents the same distance that you now travel in order to hit strategic targets.  So if you used to choose a rear base that was three sectors away from your strategic target, you can still choose one that's three sectors away -- only it might be two or three bases farther back given relatively closer base positions.

You wouldn't spend any more time grabbing than you currently do, and as an added bonus most of the furball-style fights would occur lower than they do now, making your journey all the easier.

-- Todd/Leviathn


I think my picture was trying to portray exactly what Lev just put into words ... I'm a picture guy ...  :D
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« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2003, 02:52:29 PM »
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Hey, here's an idea.

Add more ports so that there will be more carriers.  Then you can move the carriers as close to each other as you want.


Thats another one of Laz's crappy ideas ... j/k ...  :D
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« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2003, 02:58:53 PM »
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And, he's still a jerk.



Sheesh...not as big as the one you're starting to sound like.


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« Reply #51 on: June 11, 2003, 02:58:54 PM »
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slap... not so sure that field capture per se is too easy..  i do think that field porking is too easy.   I would not be opposed to field capture occuring automatically after all the objects were knocked down including the manable ack.
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nah .. that would mean that the whole field needs to be scorched earth and when the capture happens, then the field is un-useable for moving offesively or defending.

Nothing wrong with making some objectives harder than what they are now.

When the new bomb sight came out, the pissin' and moaning was very high, but what do we hear of it now ... nothing ... those who are true bombers took the challange and can now drop those bombs as precisely as they did before. That bomb sight only eliminated those, like me, who really have no patience for that from popping/porking anything that I wanted.
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« Reply #52 on: June 11, 2003, 03:10:32 PM »
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nah .. that would mean that the whole field needs to be scorched earth and when the capture happens, then the field is un-useable for moving offesively or defending.

Nothing wrong with making some objectives harder than what they are now.

When the new bomb sight came out, the pissin' and moaning was very high, but what do we hear of it now ... nothing ... those who are true bombers took the challange and can now drop those bombs as precisely as they did before. That bomb sight only eliminated those, like me, who really have no patience for that from popping/porking anything that I wanted.



I liked how in AW you only had 5 minutes to capture the field after prepping it for capture.   It created some great furballs and fights.


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« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2003, 03:12:53 PM »
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Sherbert doesn't care, he wants you tro be miserable with him.


ROFL.  Somebody finally "discovered" my other typical nickname.

I'm not miserable.

The additional 3-4 minutes of CLIMB TIME that I would lose is bad for a strat attack.  Typically, I have to climb all the way to the base now, as it is, in my P38--a plane with a great sustained climb when heavy.  It puts the F4U-1D right out of it.  I fly the 38 instead of the dhog to kill strat for only one reason--climb rate when heavy.  IMO, the dhog is a much better dive bombing platform.  I would be forced to move back 1 base.

Making ME move back 1 base is selfish on your part.  Now I would have longer flight times, and a greater chance of getting intercepted and shot down.  That would be a benefit for you, and a disadvantage for me.

You guys want the "suicide dweeb strat killers" to stop, but are only trying to set it up so they need to spend more time in transit or have a better chance of getting killed.  It's a vast winged conspiracy, that's what it is.;)

My original point from several weeks ago still applies:  If you don't like the way the game is played, get another game.  Don't try to change it for everybody else.  We (the other players) didn't change the game rules, we use them to play it our way.

Lassie, you're still a jerk.  Now a two-faced jerk, with your reply that you don't think base CAPTURE is too hard.  CAPTURE is a process, involving defense suppression (porking) and town capture phases.  Don't try to deny that you think the base capture process is too easy.  It is disingenuous.

Did I remember to remind you that you are still a jerk?  Oh, I guess I did.  Well, repetition is a good way to reinforce a point.

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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2003, 03:20:41 PM »
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Sheesh...not as big as the one you're starting to sound like.


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Ack-Ack, lassie asked for it.  He begged for it.  Now he's gonna get it.  He is insufferable.

Every post I make will reference the fact that he is a complete jerk.  Just like this one.  It's my new mission in life.  I feel young again, a man with a purpose.

I think I will start a "LASSIE IS A JERK" thread, and get a web site going dedicated to the exploration of lassie's jerkness (is that a word?)

And lassie, you're still a jerk.  Come to the light, lassie.  Move into the light.

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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2003, 03:20:49 PM »
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Did I remember to remind you that you are still a jerk?  Oh, I guess I did.  Well, repetition is a good way to reinforce a point.


Dude, let it go.  If you ever had a good point to make, it was lost in this bout of ad hominem obsessiveness.  You're making yourself look like an idiot without Lazs even having to say a word.

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« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2003, 03:37:21 PM »
"Making ME move back 1 base is selfish on your part. Now I would have longer flight times, and a greater chance of getting intercepted and shot down. That would be a benefit for you, and a disadvantage for me."

You just don't get it. I draw pictures, Lev explains it very succinctly.

Today ..

The base that you want to attack (A12) is 1 sector away from the base that you launch from (A13).

Tomorrow ...

A field (A11) is added between A12 and A13. How is your flight any longer if you leave from the same field (A13) and attack the same field (A12).

Literally ... yes ... you have been moved back 1 base, physically ... no you haven't.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2003, 03:42:03 PM by SlapShot »
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« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2003, 03:44:22 PM »
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Dude, let it go.  If you ever had a good point to make, it was lost in this bout of ad hominem obsessiveness.  You're making yourself look like an idiot without Lazs even having to say a word.

-- Todd/Leviathn


It's my dime, my time, and my opinion.  Thank you for yours.  You're on his side of the debate, and trying to pressure me to get out of it.  And that's ok, because it's your dime, your time, and your opinion.

I'll let go of lassie's tail when he stops being such a jerk on the message boards.  Until then, I will attack, attack, attack.  Back in the early days of message boards (back when they were called bb systems, before the internet was a big thing) we called clowns like him "Flamers".  

Lassie, you're still a jerk.  And a clown.

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« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2003, 03:51:20 PM »
hubert.. i bet your defenition of "jerk" would be very entertaining.

Look hubert... you don't have to take off and fly straight to the target you wish to crash into.   you can manouver... you know, move the stick a little other than forward and back.. I don't see the problem.   can't think and turn at the same time?   maybe I am  wrong tho...

maybe you do household chores while on auto climb and if you had to actually turn you would not be able to complete them?   Maybe you are a heavy smoker and need to step outside for a smoke?  still no problem... either take off from a base back from the action or simply take of at an angle to the base you wish to crash into.

no one is trying to stop you from doing talentless, boring stuff... we simply don't want to be bored ouselves or have your lack of talent affect us so much... hey, just trying to help tough guy.
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« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2003, 03:57:28 PM »
hubert... I don't want to be rude (sorry rude) but that isn't my tail you have ahold of... I appreciate the sentiment but I am not that way (not that there is anything wrong with that).

If you continue to trample the flowers outside my bedroom window at night I will have to get a restraining order.    I'm sorry but you leave me no choice... no means no tough guy!
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