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Offline Ack-Ack

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« Reply #90 on: June 11, 2003, 09:58:56 PM »
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What is this fascination with my ass??



We're all wondering just how in the hell did you get your head so far up it.


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« Reply #91 on: June 11, 2003, 10:17:00 PM »
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The only problem I've seen is that my sleep schedule has gone to crap since I've been playing


Heheh, that gets better with time. Welcome.
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« Reply #92 on: June 12, 2003, 01:28:35 PM »
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nah .. that would mean that the whole field needs to be scorched earth and when the capture happens, then the field is un-useable for moving offesively or defending.

Nothing wrong with making some objectives harder than what they are now.

When the new bomb sight came out, the pissin' and moaning was very high, but what do we hear of it now ... nothing ... those who are true bombers took the challange and can now drop those bombs as precisely as they did before. That bomb sight only eliminated those, like me, who really have no patience for that from popping/porking anything that I wanted.


i think we need field damage required kinda like AW did to capture.AW required 75% of each catgory be destroyed.

so that would mean, to take a field, u would have to kill the town completely as now, but also you would need 75%(or something close) of base to be ded.  small field for example:
 2 of 3 FHs,  1 of 2 BHs, VH, ack, 2 ammo, all barracks, 3 of 4 fuel, and radar tower.


the simple kill the town take the field  is too easy as it is.

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« Reply #93 on: June 12, 2003, 01:53:38 PM »
...dbl post..

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« Reply #94 on: June 12, 2003, 01:53:58 PM »
...wow trpl post...

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« Reply #95 on: June 12, 2003, 01:54:35 PM »
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We're all wondering just how in the hell did you get your head so far up it.


Ack-Ack


LOL

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« Reply #96 on: June 12, 2003, 02:33:16 PM »
Rshubert,

Pipe down.. (big deal if Lazs gets under your skin.. ITs freaking text... How does text cause harm to you...  If he said I have your real name and you are at this address now haze him fellas then I might have some sympathy for your cause...  All I have for you now is Chimpathy....)


You act as if you have a rep to uphold...  Your skills dont derserve a rep...  and your mentality aint building one either..  

Im no nice guy ... but at least I back up what I stand for with skill...  

Get some skill then the board will hear you out.... (maybe, a cookie might help too)

and on that note:

CHIMPATHY..... Oh the horror..  the horror..


2 cents,



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PS:  Before anyone... says how ironic that is comming from DoctorYo I beat you to the punch line....

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« Reply #97 on: June 12, 2003, 03:11:50 PM »
First, since kills/hour is what this thread is supposed to be about (dam hijackers :)), I will toss out my opinion. All stats, including this one, are worthless. They can be manipulated, thus becoming invalid. The easiest way to up your k/h is to follow those lemming conga lines to a field under attack, vulch til you run outta ammo and then auger it. The only stat that is valid is f/h...fun/hour.

Second, none of the fields in Trinity have been "moved closer". In reality, all of the fields are within HT's prescribed distance limits. The problem with it is that "fields" includes air, gv and ports. What has been done to Trinity is to add 3 fields to each forward zone to fill in 'holes' and convert about 5 gv fields per zone to airfields. Bottomline, this should make no difference to the strat player whatsoever. What it will  do is make the conga lines shorter :D. As much as I hate to admit it, Lazs has a point. One which he has stated, restated...restated...restate d... etc...ad nauseum.

Third, actually, the field distances in the desert are less of a problem than the alts. I hate having to climb 6 or 7k just to be co-alt with the dam field I am trying to get to. This is why I chose to place most of the fields in Trinity at 5k or less.

Finally, if you really want to turn AH into a furballer's paradise...don't lobby for closer fields. Lobby, instead, for an hourly rate. Start chargin per hour and the max alt in the game would drop by 75% overnight :). When AW was $6 per hour, the average alt was around 5k. Anyone 10 or above...was an alt-monkey (and probably free-flagged :)).
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Re: Re: My dime.
« Reply #98 on: June 12, 2003, 03:49:00 PM »
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Your dime does not entitle you to constantly harrass other players on this free forum.  You've gone beyond stating your opinion into acting like a lovelorn sixth grade love muffin.  I'm not trying to "pressure you" into getting out of the debate.  On the contrary, I'm trying to explain to you how your behavior undermines the very positions you're attempting to argue regardless of their validity.  If you'd drop the ad hominem, people might actually take you and your arguments seriously.

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Dear Y'all,

DMF, I didn't start the personal attacks.  In a thread last week, I asked him to stop, and he didn't.  So I started feeding him his own s**t.

The lassie thing is really between lassie and I.  I haven't "gone after" anybody who didn't "go after" me first, and don't try to deny it--the proof is right there in the threads.  I have refrained from reacting to many flames here, and will continue to do so in the future.  I don't mind discussing issues of mutual interest in a civil manner, but I get pissed when it gets personal.  It doesn't even need to be aimed at me, I get pissed when somebody flames others.  It's part of my personality.

Heck, we even had a thread where lassie and friends tried to "set me straight".  It all depends on your definition of straight.

Most people can be irritating, and I know I can.  You all can, too.  I will express my opinion, and defend it appropriately.  When someone tells me my opinion is stupid, or based on some perceived personal fault, I will flame back.  If someone takes the argument to a personal level, I will too.  i can insult with the best of them.

Many of you do those things, and expect to get away with it without retaliation from the other parties.  That is not the way the world works.  When you say ugly things to people, they tend to say ugly things back.  I know I do.  I don't expect a passive response if I insult or demean someone.  Why should I?

Some of you gather together and "pick on" other people.  I can only compare that type of activity to the schoolyard bully and his sycophants.  I react strongly to bullying, and always have.  Would you want your kids to see the kind of things you say/write to other people?  

I saw a sticky on the O club board, to the effect that it's time to be civil.  I wasn't a participant in any of those threads (better term would be flame wars), but some of you were.  I think we ALL (and yes, I mean YOU, too)  need to dial the testosterone back a little bit.  You say that "it's just words", and you are correct.  But remember, words mean stuff.  Words start fights.  Words start wars.  (No, I am not threatening anyone)

An earlier post on one of the other threads claimed that lassie is a really good guy in person.  I will never get to know that, because I met lassie through his insulting online presence.  He goes out of his way to verbally attack other people.  That's his loss, not mine.  I think that people that hide behind anonymity to insult and belittle others are not worth knowing.  That opinion will probably not change, even if I find out that lassie is actually the Archbishop of Chicago or the reincarnation of Mahatma Ghandi.

I'm not the only person that has posted a similar opinion.

Think about it:  The only interaction we get is on this board.  You guys identify lassie as a flamer, TW9 as a windbag, and me as a real a**hole.  What do you think other people think of you?  It must be important, because your opinion of other people is important to you.

If anyone wants my real identity, please contact me directly.  We can talk.

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« Reply #99 on: June 12, 2003, 04:16:01 PM »
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We're all wondering just how in the hell did you get your head so far up it.


Ack-Ack


Be nice, ack-ack.  You'll notice I wasn't rude to you until you were rude to me.  And lassie doesn't need you to defend him, he's a big boy.

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« Reply #100 on: June 12, 2003, 04:30:25 PM »
"Many of you do those things, and expect to get away with it without retaliation from the other parties. That is not the way the world works. When you say ugly things to people, they tend to say ugly things back. I know I do. I don't expect a passive response if I insult or demean someone. Why should I?

Because it leads to exactly where you are now ... nowhere.

"I haven't "gone after" anybody who didn't "go after" me first, and don't try to deny it--the proof is right there in the threads."

I responded to a lot of your post in what I would consider a repectable manner and all I got from you was condecending responses ....

"If moving the fields closer together means that any plane (physics, now) gets less altitude because the travel distance is shorter, then what's the use?"

"Okey-dokey, math lesson time..."

You don't know me ... you don't know if I dig ditches, drive trucks, or if I am a brain surgeon, or a rocket scientist, yet you feel that need to respond to my post with physics and math lessons like you are somewhat lofty and above me.

And to beat all, I respond to your math lesson with logic and your response is ...

"I just don't want to, like you don't want to spend the extra 45 seconds getting to the furball."

Showed a lot of character.
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Slapshot...
« Reply #101 on: June 12, 2003, 05:00:15 PM »
Here's a respectful point by point response to your recent post.

1.  Then why start the mudslinging?  That was my point.  The original mudslinger, here, is our boy lassie.  But once it starts, it's like a school of sharks.  Everybody wants a bite.

2.  Please give examples of me responding to you rudely.  I can only find three direct responses to you in this thread, none of which i consider to be condescending or rude.  I suggest you get that chip off your shoulder.

3.  I think my method of explaining my point was nicer than the "why can't you understand simple stuff" crack you made.  For you, it appears that one thing I say is rude, another is condescending.  I notice that it takes a lot of work to get a response to the ideas, rather than the personal stuff.  That theme is evident throughout these threads, from many of us.  Are you part of the problem, or part of the solution?

4.  the rest of the response was not quoted, where I noted that IMO putting the fields closer together makes isolating them more difficult, making strat play more difficult.  Please don't quote me out of context.  As for the "i just don't want to line", wouldn't you consider honesty to be a character trait:)
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« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2003, 05:45:47 PM »
Here's a respectful point by point response to your recent post.

1.  Then why start the mudslinging?  That was my point.  The original mudslinger, here, is our boy lassie.  But once it starts, it's like a school of sharks.  Everybody wants a bite.


I slung no mud in my responses ...

2.  Please give examples of me responding to you rudely.  I can only find three direct responses to you in this thread, none of which i consider to be condescending or rude.  I suggest you get that chip off your shoulder.

As long as you don't feel as though they are condecending then it's ok ?

I gave you two examples where you felt the need to give me a "physics" and a "math" lesson ... neither of which I need. I dont' have a chip on my shoulder ... just a battery ...  :D

3.  I think my method of explaining my point was nicer than the "why can't you understand simple stuff" crack you made.  For you, it appears that one thing I say is rude, another is condescending.  I notice that it takes a lot of work to get a response to the ideas, rather than the personal stuff.  That theme is evident throughout these threads, from many of us.  Are you part of the problem, or part of the solution?

I am always about ... The Solution.

4.  the rest of the response was not quoted, where I noted that IMO putting the fields closer together makes isolating them more difficult, making strat play more difficult.  Please don't quote me out of context.  As for the "i just don't want to line", wouldn't you consider honesty to be a character trait:)

The point of quoting your responses was not continue the debating of the pros and cons of closer bases, but rather to point where you yourself, IMHO, were rude and condecending, therefore there was no need to display the whole quote.
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« Reply #103 on: June 12, 2003, 11:40:27 PM »
rude and condescending all day.  I reviewed your responses, and still feel they were kind of smartassed.  Mine were, probably.  I have not accused you of mudslinging, however.  My reference was to lassie, by name.  Your responses were well within the realm of polite society, in my opinion.  I don't have any beef with you.

That being said, and in view of the fact that we disagree on the facts, let's just drop it, you and I.  Please get out from in front of lassie.  He doesn't need your help, he can insult very well without it.  He just can't discuss facts without disrespecting people.

Part of the problem may be that people on his side of the argument get painted with the same brush when it comes to the discussion.  It must be hard to be seen as a decent person when you hang around with jerks, and support them in their jerkiness. (I'm still having trouble with that term, can somebody help, here?  Is it jerkdom, jerkity, or jerkitude, or what?)

I'll back off lassie when he gets some respect for others.  Until then, I'll call a rake a rake, and a spade a damned shovel.

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« Reply #104 on: June 13, 2003, 09:33:05 AM »
nobady.. i don't think stats are worthless..  I think they can show trends.   If gunnery got harder the trend would be for average hit percentage to go down.. if it got easier the hit percentage would go up.

K/H... you say all a person needs to do is follow the horde a sector and a half and vultch the guys that will obligingly keep poping up on the runway..  that may happen... 1 in ten times... most likely if you are in infinity or pizza tho you will have a long folight to nowhere.   if you are in a fast plane you will more than likely lose the vultchs to someone like me who will kill em on the runway before you even start to turn to line up and be lined up for the next plane befor the rest of the building battlers point out there is one.

I think that to get a K/H average (over a tour or two) of over 7 or 10 or so... you have to look for the fight that is close.   If the map does not offer the opportunity for furballs then the k/h for everyone will be down... everyone will be fighting for scraps when they are not too busy hiding from the hordes... look at the kill buffer in pizza or infinity...  it is painful... mostly chat.

So... let's get some average stats and see if I am right.   I mean... you could be right and I could be wrong but .... probly huberts would fly out of our butts before that ever happened.  still.... I am open minded about it..

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