Author Topic: Where Fur and Strat Collide... (Read 10101 times)

muckmaw · « **Reply #150 on:** July 02, 2003, 02:45:52 PM »

Slapshot-

You know I hold you in highest regard as a player, as a squadmate, and as a friend.

So you know I'm not being a smartass either, but I have to ask..

If the Main Arena is not condusive to quick furballs, why not use the dueliing arena?

It seems like the DA has everything the furballer could want. Now I could be wrong, as my experience there is extremely limited.

I am simply asking a question and not initmating that all furballers go to the DA.

Another thought. INstead of working so hard to lobby to change the game, what if someone hosted a type of KOTH event every night in the SA? Is this possible?

Once again, just shooting some ideas from the hip. I've got no problem with the Arena within Arena idea, but if I can suggest something that might be easier to impliment, the furs may get what they want that much faster.

CptTrips · « **Reply #151 on:** July 02, 2003, 02:49:06 PM »

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Rather than play point / counter-point here, tell me, in your opinion, where the failings are.

I don't think there particularly are any.

Wab

Furious · « **Reply #152 on:** July 02, 2003, 02:50:56 PM »

Skuzzy,

Is the ability of one suicide typhy pilot to pork all the fuel at an airfield parity?

Is it logical?

Does it promote fun?

Is it good "strategy"?

What, if anything, does it inhibit?

Does it matter?

Parity, it seems to me, is not part of the MA in any fashion. Why should it be an issue now?

SlapShot · « **Reply #153 on:** July 02, 2003, 02:58:11 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
Slapshot-

You know I hold you in highest regard as a player, as a squadmate, and as a friend.

So you know I'm not being a smartass either, but I have to ask..

If the Main Arena is not condusive to quick furballs, why not use the dueliing arena?

It seems like the DA has everything the furballer could want. Now I could be wrong, as my experience there is extremely limited.

I am simply asking a question and not initmating that all furballers go to the DA.

Another thought. INstead of working so hard to lobby to change the game, what if someone hosted a type of KOTH event every night in the SA? Is this possible?

Once again, just shooting some ideas from the hip. I've got no problem with the Arena within Arena idea, but if I can suggest something that might be easier to impliment, the furs may get what they want that much faster.

Good questions Muck ...

Just say this idea was implemented ...

I am happily furballin away and over squad vox comes ...

Muck: I am almost on target. I could use a gunner right now. Lots of bad guys with some high cap.

I could then choose to auger and help you out. If I am in the DA, you are SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Cornwell: Hey ... I am in a Tiger with 18 kills and my engine is knocked out and I am low on ammo. Don't know how much longer I can hold them off. Can someone please bring me some vehicle supplies.

I could then choose to auger and help him out. If I am in the DA, he is SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Amreo: Hey there is a CV just off the coast and I need some help beating these guys back.

I could then choose to auger and help him out. If I am in the DA, he is SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Its the disconnect from the squad that bothers me the most at the thought of going to the DA to furball.

Hope this helps !!!

CptTrips · « **Reply #154 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:00:45 PM »

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Is the ability of one suicide typhy pilot to pork all the fuel at an airfield parity?

Where was your bar-cap?

Wab

Furious · « **Reply #155 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:03:28 PM »

Flying bar-cap would be gayer than flying a suicide pork typhy.

CptTrips · « **Reply #156 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:06:25 PM »

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Flying bar-cap would be gayer than flying a suicide pork typhy.

So rather than defending your airfields, you simply want HT to make them invulnerable?

Wab

Apache · « **Reply #157 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:08:23 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
Good questions Muck ...

Just say this idea was implemented ...

I am happily furballin away and over squad vox comes ...

Muck: I am almost on target. I could use a gunner right now. Lots of bad guys with some high cap.

I could then choose to auger and help you out. If I am in the DA, you are SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Cornwell: Hey ... I am in a Tiger with 18 kills and my engine is knocked out and I am low on ammo. Don't know how much longer I can hold them off. Can someone please bring me some vehicle supplies.

I could then choose to auger and help him out. If I am in the DA, he is SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Amreo: Hey there is a CV just off the coast and I need some help beating these guys back.

I could then choose to auger and help him out. If I am in the DA, he is SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Its the disconnect from the squad that bothers me the most at the thought of going to the DA to furball.

Hope this helps !!!

Excellent response. Well said Slapshot.

Splitting the community is not the goal.

muckmaw · « **Reply #158 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:09:51 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
Good questions Muck ...

Just say this idea was implemented ...

I am happily furballin away and over squad vox comes ...

Muck: I am almost on target. I could use a gunner right now. Lots of bad guys with some high cap.

I could then choose to auger and help you out. If I am in the DA, you are SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Cornwell: Hey ... I am in a Tiger with 18 kills and my engine is knocked out and I am low on ammo. Don't know how much longer I can hold them off. Can someone please bring me some vehicle supplies.

I could then choose to auger and help him out. If I am in the DA, he is SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Amreo: Hey there is a CV just off the coast and I need some help beating these guys back.

I could then choose to auger and help him out. If I am in the DA, he is SOL when it comes to getting my help.

Its the disconnect from the squad that bothers me the most at the thought of going to the DA to furball.

Hope this helps !!!

I kinda figured that's what it was, but is that simply your personal position, or is that the case for most furballers? What I'm asking is, I get the impression most of the most vocal furballers would not be intereted in resupplying, or gunning a buff, etc. From what I can gather, there are entire squadrons that would relocate to the DA and thereby not lose contact with their friends.

I imagine this would involve some massive coding, but what if there was a way to transmit text across Arenas?

Or what about using something like AOL IM to message across the arenas?

Would this be feasible?

CptTrips · « **Reply #159 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:10:44 PM »

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Splitting the community is not the goal.

No, merely Balkanizing it into partitioned "arenas-within-arenas".

Wab

muckmaw · « **Reply #160 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:12:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Apache
Excellent response. Well said Slapshot.

Splitting the community is not the goal.

I don't know about you, Apache, but I'm feeling a serious rift in the community already.

We've got 2 firmly entrenched camps here, and after reading Skuzzys reply, I don't see how these differences can be adjudicated.

I could be wrong, but I feel like we already have 2 seperate communities.

lazs2 · « **Reply #161 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:17:42 PM »

hmm.... and to think that I get told all the time that there is no need for me to express my views since everyone allready knows em... Doesn't seem that many do.

Let's go step by step... let's restore the parity (strat/timidity action) of the smaller maps to the big maps by getting the field distances closer.. an airfield 3/4 of a sector away from a vehicle field is NOT close fields. two airfields 3/4 to on sector apart ARE close fields. we can only have so many fields so change a lot of the vehicle fields to combined air/vehicle fields on the big maps.... add more cv's.

that would probly get things back to the way they were in the small maps but... I would eventually like to see things a step further...

Carve about 1/4 or 1/3 of the large map out and make those 14-28 fields early war only filelds with a seperate reset HT told me this was possible. 40k mountain range ringing it and at least 2 sectors of no mans land. You could seemlessly jump between different types of fighting or strat or whatever. allways be in touch with the rest of the community and allow everyone the most amount of choice.

to prove that I am right..... hubert, jakal, beetle and steve all disagree strongly. that should give me some credibility.

lazs

Zippatuh · « **Reply #162 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:19:54 PM »

I like numbers. If the DA consistently had 100 or so people in it, I’d probably go there.

Also, I don’t like the “arena in an arena” idea. Just make more air bases and move them a little closer.

It’s all about the action, instant and at any time. Having events or scheduled times for furballing isn’t very conducive to “log on and kill”.

Any other way and I wouldn’t get the chance to kill strat dweebs

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lazs2 · « **Reply #163 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:20:28 PM »

and deja... I wouldn't mind losing the cv or the field it was by so much if the map had other opportunities for action. It's just with these actionless maps yu start to get possesive of any fun that comes your way... more cv's help.

I believe that the changes nobaddy made are for the better. I have seen no complaints from the strat guys.
lazs

Apache · « **Reply #164 on:** July 02, 2003, 03:21:30 PM »

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Originally posted by AKWabbit
No, merely Balkanizing it into partitioned "arenas-within-arenas".

Wab

Divided, agreed, hostile...no. I hold no ill will toward anyone in the community.