Author Topic: Troop Whines? (Read 1281 times)

LePaul · « **on:** July 17, 2003, 03:06:49 PM »

I dunno...I was watching the news yesterday and they were interviewing troops in Northern Iraq complaining about wanting to go home and saying morale is terrible.

Half of me feels bad that they are away from home in the face of danger, yada yada.

Then the other half thinks "Look, you whiner, this is what being inthe military is all about, shape up. HooRah!" (Insert blanket party).

I sure feel for em, but that troops reaction really made me wonder.

All that rough tough/kick bellybutton talk sure melted away quick on this gentleman

Scootter · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2003, 05:06:32 PM »

Not so long ago a tour of duty lasted 12 months, before that 18 and in WW2 it went just about to the end.

Time to toughen up guys.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2003, 05:09:03 PM »

i thought we fought those wars so crap like this didnt have to happen again.

I bet if we waited for our Nato buddys to join in we wouldnt have to keep our troops there for so long.

But you know saddam had tried to buy uranium from africa so we had to go in now!

LePaul · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2003, 06:14:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Scootter
Not so long ago a tour of duty lasted 12 months, before that 18 and in WW2 it went just about to the end.

Time to toughen up guys.

This was my thought too

I'm wondering what his comrades and commanding officers think...did they roll their eyes, or have a group hug and sing Kum-buy-ya ?

Raubvogel · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2003, 06:20:16 PM »

Oh, and I'm sure that if interviewed, none of those troops who served 12, 18, or more months would have said that they wanted to go home.

Are you fediddlein stupid? Who isn't going to want to return home? Because the guy is honest you call him a *****? Have you ever spent that long in a dangerous place?

devious · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2003, 07:05:45 PM »

Wissen Sie eigentlich, mit wem Sie hier reden ?

Haben sie überhaupt gedient ?

old "joke", translation: Do you know who you`re talking to ? Did you even serve ?

Toad · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2003, 07:10:47 PM »

Jeez, Raub... who would want to leave that paradise?

I mean.. IRAQ!.... the chicks, the booze, the vacation weather, all the modern conveniences of life, nightly top line entertainers in the casinos......

why would the ever want to come back to the States and their families after a mere 8 months or so away?

Tough guys playing AH know war isn't pretty. They're prepared to sit at their computers for hours... I mean HOURS... at a time, despite the nagging of their wives and the wailing of their children.

Shape up troops!

Martlet · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2003, 08:54:02 PM »

Unless the military has changed drastically since I was in, the whiners will be taken care of by their peers before long.

Maverick · « **Reply #8 on:** July 17, 2003, 10:22:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
i thought we fought those wars so crap like this didnt have to happen again.

I bet if we waited for our Nato buddys to join in we wouldnt have to keep our troops there for so long.

But you know saddam had tried to buy uranium from africa so we had to go in now!

What is this WE crap here?

Frogm4n · « **Reply #9 on:** July 17, 2003, 10:41:20 PM »

we. as in the american people. If thats all you have to defend your position your in a sad state of affairs iceman or goose or whatever you call yourself.

Maverick · « **Reply #10 on:** July 17, 2003, 10:56:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
we. as in the american people. If thats all you have to defend your position your in a sad state of affairs iceman or goose or whatever you call yourself.

Please note that I did not take ANY position in this thread. I just asked you a simple question about what it is you have done to include yourself in fighting "wars".

As to my handle, it is from another show much earlier than the Navy film. If that is the best you can think of as a criticism of myself you had better try harder.

jamusta · « **Reply #11 on:** July 17, 2003, 11:04:32 PM »

If you have never served then you have no grounds to even speak on the subject...

LePaul · « **Reply #12 on:** July 17, 2003, 11:19:27 PM »

FWIW

I've served. Seven Years. 1987-1994

So this thread is now "unless you've served, you can't comment".

Baloney

When a big tough troop boohoos how he wants to go home, part of me feels for him, the other recalls its a VOLUNTEER service. No one held a gun to his head. Reminds me of all my National Guard peers who joined for the college benefits and were all bent when we got activated for the first Gulf War. Sorry guys, sometimes you have to earn the pay

I'm not beating up on the servicemen, heck no. Just this one fella who cried like a girl scout for NBC.

Flame at will.

jamusta · « **Reply #13 on:** July 17, 2003, 11:31:44 PM »

So when you were in the Gulf War you didnt want to go home? They asked he told them. I am in no way flaming. If you have served in the military then your opinion holds water cus you can relate.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #14 on:** July 18, 2003, 03:28:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Unless the military has changed drastically since I was in, the whiners will be taken care of by their peers before long.

lol too funny...think about these points.

1. Those that have laid their lives on the line in combat for America and their Gov. perhaps deserve more than most the freedom to say how they feel - they've earned that right.

2. The officers right up to the Div commander knew exactly how their troops feel - unless of course you feel that America's military professionals are incompetent fools - I don't.

3. The Military had complete control over who the journalists spoke to and could have easily required final edit on any conversations - they didn't.

4. The Military wanted to make very sure that the American people know how they feel.

Bet no stupid politicians are going to be saying "Bring it on!" or "Why do you keep asking if it's Vietnam yet?" anytime soon.

Since the occupation of Iraq will probably go on for 5 to 7 years how about the draft - then the burden of war can be placed in every household - well the less affluent one's anyway rather than being borne by the military while fat little civilians whine on bulletin boards and tell those in uniform to tough it out.