Author Topic: Heil Intolerance (Read 11759 times)

Mini D · « **Reply #390 on:** August 06, 2003, 02:56:34 PM »

400 more posts than the subject needed.

Rude · « **Reply #391 on:** August 06, 2003, 03:08:27 PM »

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Really? God wrote the bible? You believe this...I say man did, and that its words have been translated and repeated so many times that I am willing to bet it retains NONE (or very little) of its original meaning. But then I suppose you will say that God had a "hand" in this.

Those men were inspired by Holy Spirit...what they wrote was directed by God's truth through his spirit.

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But when you "fall off" the sin wagon, you can just ask again right? Very convienient.

I don't think you understand....you seem to think that christians are perfect? Does it really anger you that God's plan for salvation is based on our faith in his Son rather than the Law? Like I said before...I didn't write the Bible, I just believe it to hold the truth about our lives.

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Why can't you respect a gay's choice and not attempt to limit their actions based upon how YOU interpret the bible?

I cannot respect that behavior, however, I have always tolerated it. I have not now, or at any other time since being saved, stood in judgement over anyone's actions....my judgements are choices for my life only, which I have tried to share here with all of you.

If your friend finds the gay lifestyle suitable, then it will certainly not be Rude who he bows to someday. The Bible gives account of a time when every knee will bow...that includes my own.

Homosexuality is no worse of a sin than adultery in God's eyes...it just happens to be this current threads topic.

I've said all I need to say regarding this matter....my hope is that you will someday realize the Gospel....the Good News of salvation in you and your families lives....your life would never be the same again.

SOB · « **Reply #392 on:** August 06, 2003, 03:37:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Sabre
SOB: I respect your intent. I would hope we can conduct discussions -- even on such a potentially emotional topic -- without the need to demean or demonize each other. I always try to re-read my posts several time before hitting "Submit Reply" to insure I'm not unintentionally insulting or putting down the intended (or unintended) reader. If I ever come across otherwise, I would hope people would point it out, so that I might apologize. My "liberal" remark above probably counts as a "sorry, that was not constructive" type remark.

Rgr Sabre, I don't think you've been a jerk (even though you're wrong and I'm right)...if I had, I probably wouldn't be as concerned about being one myself.

SOB

-dead- · « **Reply #393 on:** August 06, 2003, 03:37:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I don't recall anything in the New Testament regarding homosexual activity...

Surely it can't have escaped your notice that one of the main characters - that Jesus guy - hangs around with twelve men all the time? And he has a snog in the garden with Judas. And as for Mark 14:51 - outrage on the lawn!

Rude · « **Reply #394 on:** August 06, 2003, 03:58:24 PM »

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Originally posted by -dead-
Surely it can't have escaped your notice that one of the main characters - that Jesus guy - hangs around with twelve men all the time? And he has a snog in the garden with Judas. And as for Mark 14:51 - outrage on the lawn!

Like pearls to the swine.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #395 on:** August 06, 2003, 04:43:12 PM »

jesus was a gay hippie. i know its hard for you to accept rude, but your organized religion has lied to you your entire life.

Curval · « **Reply #396 on:** August 06, 2003, 04:58:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Sabre
I've re-read Romans 1:24, and have to say, this doesn't look like a reference to masturbation.

The words "between themselves" are a clear reference to a cooperative venture, i.e. some sort of interaction between two or more people.

Well thanks much for proving what I have been saying about the Bible all along. You interpret it one way..I interpret the same verse differently.

Where do you see the reference to homosexuality if not 1:24? Is it even in there?

hblair · « **Reply #397 on:** August 06, 2003, 05:28:24 PM »

How much study do you have on Romans 1:24 curval? Glancing over it a couple times doesn't make you an expert on it.
How do you get that that verse deals with masturbation?

hblair · « **Reply #398 on:** August 06, 2003, 05:32:06 PM »

As far as the "you see it your way, I'll see it mine". That goes against basic bible principal. Pauls whole ministry was spent trying to get all christians on the same page. Now why would he do that? So we can have thousands of different denominations, interpretations, and views on the bible?

Curval · « **Reply #399 on:** August 06, 2003, 06:15:12 PM »

hblair..you are just being argumentative.

I was TOLD by Rude...and YOU...that the reference to homosexuality being immoral and a sin in the New Testament was in Romans Chapter one. I posted the King James Version of Romans chapter one and assumed it was in 1:24 based on a quick read.

I asked Sabre...I'm asking you....WHERE IS IT?

....and if was Paul's intentions to get all Christians on the same page he did a losy job.

...and we HAVE thosands of denominations, interpretations and views on the bible.

I'm trying hard to understand your point...or are you just trying to yank my chain?

As far as masterbation goes...based on experience I am a frigging expert. I make no apologies and I'm not at all embarassed to admit it.

There are two types of men in this world...bananas and liars. Which are you?

capt. apathy · « **Reply #400 on:** August 06, 2003, 07:20:14 PM »

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"Just simply to say THAT IT GOES AGAINST tradition and the teaching of the church and SCRIPTURE DOES NOT MAKE IT NECESSARILY WRONG,"

If being gay isn't enough to disqualify him as a minister, then that quote should do it.

If you don't believe the scriptures are undisputable fact you should look for a different line of work. not everyone has to be a believer, but if you're a minister, you'd think it would be a requirement.

Fatty · « **Reply #401 on:** August 06, 2003, 07:23:04 PM »

Wouldn't that make everyone except Catholics godless heathens?

capt. apathy · « **Reply #402 on:** August 06, 2003, 07:47:47 PM »

how so?

SOB · « **Reply #403 on:** August 06, 2003, 07:52:54 PM »

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Originally posted by capt. apathy
If being gay isn't enough to disqualify him as a minister, then that quote should do it.

If you don't believe the scriptures are undisputable fact you should look for a different line of work. not everyone has to be a believer, but if you're a minister, you'd think it would be a requirement.

Considering 62 Episcopal Bishops OK'd it, I'd say you're wrong. Unless you think you know their faith better than they do?

SOB

Stringer · « **Reply #404 on:** August 06, 2003, 08:31:53 PM »

62 Bishops and 1 Gay SOB