Author Topic: Time To Do Away With AWACS Datalink? (Read 2570 times)

hblair · « **Reply #75 on:** November 29, 2001, 09:38:00 PM »

bah. Apache, you used to be level-headed. What happened?

hblair · « **Reply #76 on:** November 29, 2001, 09:40:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Revvin:
Funked you're right what you said on the thread in AGW, most people who want inflight dar are just worried about losing their training wheels and once they're off would'nt think twice about all the fuss they made in the first place. Seem's most people here use the excuse it would be harder to find a fight..wtf? you have fingers..how hard is it to type 'where is the fight guys?' for the sake of others laziness the rest of us have to suffer with unrealistic arena setup and thats what it boils down to at the end of the day.

Nice post. I agree wholeheartedly.
As does Apache:

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Amen, tower only.

Fatty · « **Reply #77 on:** November 29, 2001, 10:48:00 PM »

I still don't buy it. I'm not going to type on the radio asking some idiot sitting in the tower with nothing better to do to vector me to enemies.

What we have is that except nobody has to play the role of air traffic controller, and I don't have to type.

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: Fatty ]

Soviet · « **Reply #78 on:** November 29, 2001, 10:58:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Revvin:
Funked you're right what you said on the thread in AGW, most people who want inflight dar are just worried about losing their training wheels and once they're off would'nt think twice about all the fuss they made in the first place. Seem's most people here use the excuse it would be harder to find a fight..wtf? you have fingers..how hard is it to type 'where is the fight guys?' for the sake of others laziness the rest of us have to suffer with unrealistic arena setup and thats what it boils down to at the end of the day.

I'll keep my training wheels thank you very much......

iculus · « **Reply #79 on:** November 29, 2001, 10:58:00 PM »

No dar might be better.

Worth a try.

hblair · « **Reply #80 on:** November 29, 2001, 11:04:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Fatty:
I still don't buy it. I'm not going to type on the radio asking some idiot sitting in the tower with nothing better to do to vector me to enemies.

Dude, with some of the worthless squad activities you guys pull, sitting in the tower giving vectors would be a big improvement.

Revvin · « **Reply #81 on:** November 30, 2001, 03:32:00 AM »

I can see your point about newbies Apache but I see alot of old hands here mithering about losing radar and that truly is out of laziness. It has nothing to do with having some guy with nothing better to do than vector you to enemies as Fatty said, with so many pilots in the air you don't need a guy in the tower..ask where your countrymen are fighting.

For those who want to keep radar how about a compromise? you guys keep your AWACS training wheels but lose radar under 500ft for those of us that want to put planes like the Mosquito to proper use running NOE.

Soviet · « **Reply #82 on:** November 30, 2001, 05:28:00 AM »

now that would be reasonable

Apache · « **Reply #83 on:** November 30, 2001, 06:39:00 AM »

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Originally posted by hblair:
bah. Apache, you used to be level-headed. What happened?

Through natural progression. I've matured a bit

. I looked at it from anothers point of view and saw that, indeed their was a need for the tool for some...in the MA.

K West · « **Reply #84 on:** November 30, 2001, 08:46:00 AM »

If Pyro was seriously talking about revamping the CT completely then this topic may be moot someday soon. If they implement the features and settings in CT the way many have suggested then we can all have the best of both worlds.

An EasyMODE Main and an UberRealism Haven! <g,d,rlh....>

Westy

[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: O'Westy ]

Ripsnort · « **Reply #85 on:** November 30, 2001, 09:21:00 AM »

I can envision the CT being somewhat a 'testing ground' for the main. The test would be once you start seeing the CT get about 1/3 the population of the MAIN in it, then whatever the developer is doing in the CT is probably working, and might be fit for the general population.

Apache · « **Reply #86 on:** November 30, 2001, 09:24:00 AM »

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Originally posted by O'Westy:
If Pyro was serioulsy talking about revamping the CT completely then this topic may be moot someday soon. If they implement the fatures and settings in CT they way many have suggested then we can all have the best of both worlds.

An EasyMODE Main and an UberRealism Haven! <g,d,rlh....>

Westy

Completely agree Westy.

Did ya hear that hblair?!

lazs1 · « **Reply #87 on:** November 30, 2001, 10:27:00 AM »

Hmm... No dar is the real crutch. It is a crutch for the skilless. They can substitute patience (alt and surprise) for skill. They can shoot down lazy bored players much more easily. In a game of air combat.... It is better to have combat methinks. Sure... If you want to bother playing hide and seek with the "accountants of the sky" you will eventually shoot them down... They don't have much combat time after all but... it is pretty boring... win or lose.

Soooo we all agree? Leave the dar as it is but add altitude info for the dots and seperate bars for the stupid GV's?
lazs

hblair · « **Reply #88 on:** November 30, 2001, 10:36:00 AM »

Try harder Lazs, that stuff just makes us laugh.

pbirmingham · « **Reply #89 on:** November 30, 2001, 01:01:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Ding_Hao:
"A comprehensive mission planner lets you organize or join other players to accomplish strategic goals."

That's right on the first page. Notice to the furballers: to accomplish strategic goals [/i]. Huh? That statement says that AH's emphasis is to be on strategy.

   Huh? If I were to read the page like you do, the emphasis is also on force-feedback support, voice comms and special events (like scenarios.)

   A feature list says what you can do, not what you must do.

   Further up the page, it says that the emphasis is on "high-fidelity air combat," but that isn't to be construed to exclude tanks and boats.

   Nice try, though.