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Offline genputty

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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2003, 07:56:57 AM »
i was think more on main country strat bombing where its just not in the area or city.

if a MAIN factory would hurt the hole country.... make a supply chian from main to division to fields or cities.

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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2003, 07:59:44 AM »
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I would not say you would win for just strat bombing but this would put a 2 hour hurt on the type of factory you hit.

like hit fuel supply factory and slow down recovery time or lessens the amount of fuel that can be loaded.

hit a plane factory and limit each type of planes for all fields.

just think getting into enamy ground with bombers and fighter escorts would help game fun and giving targets a meaning of why they need to be hit would make the fun factor higher.
Just to be clear... what you describe is not strategy, it's instant gratification.

There's not magical switches that would make aircraft completely unavailable.  There's not a way to bomb a fuel depot in hamburg and have the planes south of berlin instantly be out of fuel.  This is the type of "strategy" that ruins games, promotes milkrunning and fools people into thinking that they are smarter than "furballers".

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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2003, 07:59:52 AM »
rut is a perfect example of someone who claims that I say the same thing ove and over yet has no idea of what I have said..  I have never said that" killing hangers has no effect at all"  but then... rut is not the sharpest pencil in the box.  I have said that all the hangers shuld be the same... So long as there are hangers you should be able to take off..    I have also said that when you can't take off anymore the field should be automatically captured..

sofar as hangers go tho... we could make it so that the hangers were meaningless (for fighters)... simply have revetments scattered around so that all the revetments would have to be killed... destroying the hangers could make it so the mechanics couldn't work in the shade for an hour or so.
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« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2003, 09:08:16 AM »
creamo.. I think it is a matter of perception and patience. us low patience type do not find what you do "fun"... intercepting bombers? that must be a blast for you... with your two kills per hour that means you are spending a whole hour (minus the 1 minute it takes to kill 2 planes) doing.... nothing. The real secret we would like for you to share with us is.... what do you do during al this down time that immerses you so much? Laundry? needlepoint? catch up on the bills? please share.

Ok, I’ll share.

My perception of AH is it’s a great game and maps nor base distances do not hinder my enjoyment of it. I don’t like the pizza maps as much as others, but that’s my personal perception, and it’s not a showstopper.

My patience in AH is directly related to the reward. Of course intercepting bombers is time consuming, but fun. Do I have to be burning a circle into my monitor in a dogfight to have fun? No.  Sorry you do. And what’s strange for all your arguments is you seem to have patience like no other toolshed buff on the longest HQ raid. You  post, and post, and post, about silly gameplay issues on the bbs instead of playing, then check stats, then post more. Seems like a completely silly purpose to engross yourself with, but more power to you if it is fun for you.

What you enjoy in AH is dogfighting only. That and projecting a image on this bbs like you’re somewhat a better player because of it.

Thing is, AH isn’t a 32 player IL-2 Dogfight server, it’s a MMOG with strat. Bombers have a roll, people that want to stop them have a roll, C47's resupply or capture which have a roll, etc.  If you want to  be Billybadass, strap on a IL-2FB 109 with the 32 players, certainly enough for any furball junkie, without strat, and beat piss out of them.

Otherwise, stop whining about how HTC fails to provide maps that suit your restricted gameplay ideals. Or better yet, sounding condescending to me on how I should enjoy to play, and how often.
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« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2003, 10:27:20 AM »
Strat bombing not to kill planes but lower production. same as for fuel factories.... i don't want to kill the game.

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« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2003, 02:30:33 PM »
creamo... I bring up your's or anyone elses stats when they pertain to the subject... when you say, for instance " you are crazy, how can you not find a fight onh this map?  I have never failed to find a fight any time I wanted."  

 and then.... we check your stats and they are like.... 1.3 kills per hour... see?  relevance... what you consider action packed is not that at all... anyone reading you would have a lot better understanding of what you were saying if they had those stats in front of em.
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« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2003, 06:10:05 PM »
Sounds typical of the way Total Annihilation maps are made.  One juicy bit of real estate in the middle, and lesser qualities in orbit.  But as you get more inside an opponents AO, it gets progressively harder.

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« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2003, 10:45:57 AM »
The revelation AH being a MMOG didn’t move you. Maybe a true fighter pilot asswippin will.

Stop checking my stats, and get your parrot Toady and lets do a IL-2 FB server. Pass word protected for you .

 I got cable, it’s fast, 300K upload, 1.5K down. I’ll host.

IL-2 FB, Full realism, engine management, and there will be no toolsheds to fight, just Yaks and me and 2 of my friends I pick. You grab Toad and any other BK studmuffin that cant fly AH with ought crying about base distance.

If we win, you stop the insistent AH sucks banter. If you win, you continue to sound like a dipsh*t, and I won’t care any less.

When you overheat on the merge and I destroy you, don’t cry, just find another game to obsess on and demean before a guy like Skuzzy should ban your every AH defeating post as if their gameplay is wrong.

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« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2003, 10:54:53 AM »
OOOOOOOOOoooooooooooOOOOOOOoo oooooOooooooooooOoh!

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You see this cat Creamo is a bad mother--
(Shut your mouth)
But I'm talkin' about Creamo
(Then we can dig it)


How long you been playing IL?



Awwwk! Cowl Flaps! Cowl Flaps! Awwwwwk! We got Cowl Flaps in Il-2! Awwwk!

Yeah, there's a parrot around, fer shure. ;)
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« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2003, 11:25:16 AM »
Wow, your not even drunk, your just super tweeked, and hard.

 I knew the Lazs parrot joke was biting you Toad, but I did not intend to make it an point for a embarrassing AH member bbs rebuttal, and you seething with animosity.

It’s a fun game flightsim sim pilot challenge.

 You have Il-2 Toad I’m sure as you hate the cowl flaps?

 Lemme relieve them of your sim pain, with P39 dooming guns. Every round.

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« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2003, 11:31:20 AM »
Nah, Creamo, I just find your terminal spiral into the "CREAMO!!!!  BBS Badguy! Comes with IL-2 Whomping Stick!"  action figure to be the best stuff on this board in a long time.

Keep it up, buddy!

Hey, after you whomp me and Laz, can we go to an online virtual bar game and buy each other some virtual drinks? Maybe you can whip us in an online drinking game too! Maybe a virtual exotic dancer could even give you a virtual lapdance!!

Think what that'd do for your persona, eh? Girls will definitely swoon when they read about you!!! Whoo!WHOO!

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« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2003, 11:42:14 AM »
Oh brother...

:rolleyes:

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« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2003, 09:43:08 AM »
Not sure I understand what this challenge thing is all about creamo... you want me to buy or download some russian game with nothing but LW planes in it and then screw up all my control settings and then set up some kinda host thing so that I can have the joy of kicking you around a little?   And after I do... I will get what?  The rights to tell  everyone?   When have I ever shown a penchant or glimmer of a desire to brag about my abilities or the kills I have made?   if I lose... I can't post on a completely different sims BB?   I won't even download the WB sim and screw things up to beat up on decent opponents.  Why would I download some glorified box sim with what?  16 players max?  And nobody to keep people honest?

 somehow.. this seems less than tempting to me.
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« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2003, 10:21:05 AM »
Wow... the toad and lazs duo at it again.  Did you retire or something toad?

Lazs, you bring up stats to discredit those arguing against what you have to say.  If I want to furball, I find a furball and fight.  If there's not one there, it takes about 5 minutes to create one.

If I don't want to furball, I don't.

You apply your simple one mindedness to everything and use the stats as some kind of qualifier for how in sinc people are with you.  And qualify their counter argument with it.  Basically, only 1% of the players are even fit to debate the subject with you in your humble oppinion.

It's a load of horse**** and you know it.

The game doesn't need to be designed to suit any one person.  You obviously don't speak for any person except yourself because very few have such an awe inspiring k/t ratio.  But here you are squeaking about not being able to find a fight more than about 99% of the people playing this game.  Its time to just shut the **** up.

You're what we call the 3 sigma whiner lazs.  Unfortunately, now there are two of you.  The great irony of the thing is... one of them is 13TAS.  LOL!

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« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2003, 10:26:19 AM »
yeah, wht he said

toolsheds

bases need to be closer, and your stats k/d time stuff isnt in tune with the dark side. Fluffs are bad

cremo