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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2000, 12:24:00 PM »
Its not a reason to quit.. its an excuse.  Boredom is setting in.

HTC may want to consider if it is a good idea to hold off on introducing new aircraft until the fleet is finished.  Maybe the fighter should make an early appearance.

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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2000, 12:31:00 PM »
"Bunch a slack-jawed studmuffingots!"
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2000, 12:33:00 PM »
Deja, have a beer.  

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2000, 12:36:00 PM »
I got me thirty-five cent on accounta this here game dun gimme a discount fer 29.60 insteada 29.95, she busy?

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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2000, 12:45:00 PM »
 
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2000, 12:48:00 PM »
Not so, not so.  She might be a little skinny, but boy she'll put some hair on your chest.

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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2000, 01:23:00 PM »
Okay.. I'll bite.

 
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Originally posted by VISCONTI:

They dont need test to know if the price of 10$ instead of 30$ get more players, is normal.
The problem is:
is that a game competitive whit others???
my point is NO!

If it's not competitive, what are you doing here? Have you played boxed sims? YOu know very well they are always released buggy and need several patches to fix them. Unless you're still play Aces Over Europe or Red Baron 1. Atleast here we get to intercept the bugs during the products developement cycle AND have a say in what we would like to see. It may get put on the back burner, but atleast I know we'll see it coming.


AH have the possibility but at the moment i see a strange development direction.
I see big effort on put in the game late-war planes (only fighters). That mean only quake furball all time. This game need more than fighters or late-war monsters. (perk planes: i have read all about that argument)


Let me let you in on a little secret... this is EXACTLY how they built WB. I know, I was there at the start. The only difference? It's f'in amazing and they include the customers in the products development. WB is highly successful, but things need time to be built. We have more planes in here that are much more detailed graphically and in their flight models than any boxed "sim". As for early war planes.. been there done that. That's how WB started off, with a few exceptions. Everyone and their mother is doing early war planesets. The disparity between each countries fighters is negligable. You would see endless furballs of 202s, 109Es, A6M2/3s, Ki43s, F4Fs, and SpitIs/IIs/Vs.

Give us the opportunity to do what we want, divebombing, bomb runs, fighters, ground attack, torpedo bombing, SCENARIOS, ecc....

Are we playing the same game? I'm quite sure we are not. You can divebomb, grab a plane, go dive bomb a field. Bombs runs? You gotta be kidding me right? Fighters? uhmmm.... okay. Ground attack? <begins scratching head> Ahhh Torpedo bombing!! 1.05, or don't you read want the developers tell us? Scenarios? What universe are you in? There is currently the med league running and the Afrika corp running. We also have snapshots going on. All run by US. We have CMs that setup the arenas for us, and we do our own thing. HTC builds us planes and things to use, we put them to use.

Transform AH in the most complete aerial ww2 simulatin, and people will pay 40$ whitout any problem.

It's on it's way. Apparently you are not a programmer. Otherwise you would know that things are extremely difficult to make and work on the THIRD try. Telling a chunk of silicon that has electrons pulsing through it what an airplane looks like and how it flies isn't very easy. WW2Ol has been announcing open beta as early as... earlier this year. Where is it now?

Look at WW2OL, is a game that nobody know if will be operative, but a lot of people is interessed. Why??? because u can do what u want.

You can do what you want here too. Of course, this product isn't even beta yet. Simply because they are trying to make it mostly complete for the end user before they let you download it. Let me let you in on a little secret.. Things almost never work when you do it the way they are doing it. How do you know it will work on your system? How does that other guy know it will work on his? Unless you have the compiled code on your hard drive and you can click an icon that will fire it up... I wouldn't put any faith in it.

Put in AH a P-51H will improve the numbers of players???
Put in AH a Ta152 will improve the numbers of players???
Put in AH a G-59 will improve the numbers of players???

NO!!!!


Most people currently subscribing to AH are asking for the Ta-152 or P51H or some other really late war plane. We are involved in the development of this game.. as is very obvious from the list of perk planes that you cited above.

Put in the game the possibility to do ground attak, ship attak, bombers attak, reworking the gun models and others little bugs put in the secondary to do list is the key to gain credibility and a constant financial support.

See above, most are already possible. Gun models are just fine. Perhaps you need to work on your gunnery? I got 3 kills with the 202's anemic guns and still had over half the ammo load left. Fuel forced me home.

AH is fun but not more than that at the moment.

It's supposed to be only fun. If it becomes anything else, I will leave.

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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2000, 01:51:00 PM »
cant beleve what cynizm some people have,
and for any Big US mounth what saying Only 10$ i like to show my  monthly bill to get recent ADSl  and last month i play less and less simply losing interest on it

plz stop provocate the people  black humor is not what i like last days

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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2000, 02:19:00 PM »
People will come and people will go.

Most accounts rarely last more than a year or two at best.

I am here until I no longer enjoy.

Although the market test method appears mad I can guarantee everyone that this market test will result in a lower rate for everyone and those few people that are leaving likely wanted to leave anyway.

HTC would triple their monthly subscriptions at $19 and quadruple X2 subscription at $9

The bigger question for me is how will it change the community.

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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2000, 02:24:00 PM »
<<<If it's not competitive, what are you doing here?>>>

I'm not in. I'm a probable new customer now.
And my WW2 flight sim experience started whit "BoB their finest hour" and online whit Fighters OPS and AW3.

<<<Let me let you in on a little secret... this is EXACTLY how they built WB>>>

WB is dead, we dont need a revisited WB.
I personally was never attracted from WB.

<<< Are we playing the same game? I'm quite sure we are not. You can divebomb, grab a plane, go dive bomb a field. Bombs runs? You gotta be kidding me right? Fighters? uhmmm.... okay. Ground attack? <begins scratching head> Ahhh Torpedo bombing!! 1.05, or don't you read want the developers tell us? >>>

Yes divebomb whit a P-38 cc you hare right, but where is the Ju87 or another specific role plane????

Yes 1.05 we have a torpedo bomber I have to retire my comment about that argument. I only hope to see more specific AC in the future.


<<<<Scenarios? What universe are you in? There is currently the med league running and the Afrika corp running. We also have snapshots going on. All run by US. We have CMs that setup the arenas for us, and we do our own thing. HTC builds us planes and things to use, we put them to use.>>>

Oh yes Afrika, whit B26, Typhoon, very realistic. Where are the planes to perform real scenarios, or better where is the intention to introduce these planes???


<<<Let me let you in on a little secret.. Things almost never work when you do it the way they are doing it. How do you know it will work on your system? How does that other guy know it will work on his? Unless you have the compiled code on your hard drive and you can click an icon that will fire it up... I wouldn't put any faith in it.>>>

Well, I see only 2000 and + people that look at a program that offer determined things.
I have no comment about their succes or not in programming the game. Is a question of probable # of customer, nothing more than that.


<<<Most people currently subscribing to AH are asking for the Ta-152 or P51H or some other really late war plane. >>>

These people will remain to AH???
These people are the majority of the WW2 aerial simulation customers?????

<<<Gun models are just fine.>>>

F4UC lol

<<<Perhaps you need to work on your gunnery? I got 3 kills with the 202's anemic guns and still had over half the ammo load left.>>>

My gunnery skill is paragonable whit your gunnery skill, i get 3 kills + 2 manouver kills in one sorties whit the c202 (total 5), and 6 kills in one sorties whit the c205 whit only the MG mounted. Wo remember me know how i was fighting.


This is an opinion from a probable customer.
You hare an happy customer right?? Tell me why? What can i have here that no other games have?? Stop whit the realism argument we all know that realism is far far away from computers games. (1.04 show us that)


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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2000, 02:56:00 PM »
hblair, you need to lay off the drugs, seriously.  

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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2000, 03:37:00 PM »
 
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2000, 04:02:00 PM »
 
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I'm not in. I'm a probable new customer now.And my WW2 flight sim experience started whit "BoB their finest hour" and online whit Fighters OPS and AW3.

AW3 is AW DOS, with pretty graphics and it runs in windows. By the time you got to AW3, they had been working on it for over 6 years. AH has been out for a little over 1 year. Same with Fighter Ops.


WB is dead, we dont need a revisited WB.
I personally was never attracted from WB.


WB is dead because ICI left iEN. Some went to form WW2Ol, but the main players are here at AH. Where WB left off, AH will continue from.


Yes divebomb whit a P-38 cc you hare right, but where is the Ju87 or another specific role plane????


Reason: Ju87 is dead meat in the main arena. Ju88 is dive bomb specific, atleast that is livable. The main arena is there day to day, scenarios are there occassionally. Why built scenario planes when most people are here to play AH?


Oh yes Afrika, whit B26, Typhoon, very realistic. Where are the planes to perform real scenarios, or better where is the intention to introduce these planes???

If you don't see the intention to eventually introduce new planes, then apparently you are NOT living in this universe. We currently see an upcomming carrier fleet and F6F and TBF. TBF is dead meat in the MA, like the Ju87 would be. Why else would they produce the TBF other than for scenario use? The Ju88 is a more survivable torpedo bomber. Like I said, planes take a LOT of time to MAKE. You go ahead and get yourself 3DMax or 3DStudio. Make me a model of your most favorite plane with the detail they put into it. When you get that done, write yourself a flight model for it. Then gimme a call in 5 to 10 years when you finally complete it.



Well, I see only 2000 and + people that look at a program that offer determined things.
I have no comment about their succes or not in programming the game. Is a question of probable # of customer, nothing more than that.


You can only program so much a day. The lines of code you write are always changed or revised that day. On average a computer programmer writes between 5 and 20 lines of code a day. You could make a program say "Hello" colored in red centered on the screen in bold letters with that many lines. See where I'm going? It ain't easy.



These people will remain to AH???
These people are the majority of the WW2 aerial simulation customers?????


They are the majority of AH customers. That's all that matters. Unless you are paying, your opinion or what you want to see really does not matter. They will certainly remain with AH if they get to see their plane incorporated.

F4UC lol

ACM= Air Combat Manuevers. If you are letting an F4U hit you, you messed up somewhere. I can take F4Us head on all day.. I always jinx their shots then move in to kill them.

This is an opinion from a probable customer.
You hare an happy customer right?? Tell me why? What can i have here that no other games have?? Stop whit the realism argument we all know that realism is far far away from computers games. (1.04 show us that)


I never argued realism anywhere. However, it IS the most detailed sim I've played to date. Coming from a 7 year history of playing these thigns, my opinion of what's good and what isn't should show you something. AW is outdated. WB is outdated. FA and FAII.... who cares? WW2Ol and WB3. Well WW2Ol is yet unproven. When it's compiled I'll let you know. WB3 is no more than a pretty graphics engine overlayed the same old thing. When/if they implement a new flight model/damage model the iEN team's ability and recreating those things in detail is as-of-yet unproven.

Am I happy? You betcha. Am I happier than the guy paying 19.95? You betcha, cuz I can fly better than him.

Of course the point of you quitting is beyond me. Is it to get that fabled 19.95 offer? If it isn't, then you'll just be sitting around on your thumbs unless you decide to see the outside world. And if someone getting something for 10 dollars cheaper upsets you.. beware the human society. Amazon.com, every click you make the price gets jacked up on a product. Repeat buyer? Price gets jacked up more. Priceline.com.. Name your own price!! Oops grocery sales went up.. income went down. Doh! They forget they atleast need to break even to stay in business. Car dealership.. You ALWAYS finesse the dealer down in price. If you don't.. you just got screwed faster than a billy goat in texas.

Now, lets do this in a break down fashion...

DRUGS! Let's see how much money you can waste on drugs or Aces High>>>>

Marijuana aka dope aka weed aka ganja etc...
20$ will buy you a dub sack. How much is that? It's enough for 4 people to get completely stoned for about 8 hours.. maybe 12 if you can stay up long enough.

Acid aka LSD...
30$(29.95 rounded off) will get you 6 hits of acid. Depending on your dealer they can last anywhere between 4 to 14 hours per hit. You can share with your friends or you can hog it to yourself.

Ecstasy...
25$ for a 6-8hr pill. You feel happier than a potato when the sailors dock.

Opium...
25$ will get you a lot and you'll be heavily sedated for several hours. You can make it last as long or as little as you want, but it will last you no more than a week.

Heroin,cocaine,PCP,crack, and crank: I don't know their street prices but believe me, they aren't worth it.

And the kicker!!!
For 30 days of euphoric air combat, you pay 29.95$ doing what you like. And it don't fry your brain or lead to death!!

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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2000, 04:30:00 PM »
 
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And it don't fry your brain or lead to death!!

Thats Debatable.  

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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2000, 05:18:00 PM »
Very debatable Hang..... ;-)
Having done all of the above though.. I am the product of AH and aforementioned drugs.

Scary eh? :-)
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