Author Topic: BBS sampling/opinion re CT (Read 3077 times)

Shane · « **on:** August 25, 2003, 06:00:59 PM »

if you're not a regular Combat Theatre player, why not? what keeps you out of CT or from coming back on a regular basis?

Flossy · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2003, 06:33:08 PM »

lack of numbers during European flying times....

Karnak · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2003, 06:37:41 PM »

I'm not really a regular, but nor do I avoid it.

The thing that annoys me most about the CT is the low numbers combined with the radar and icon settings. These factors combine to create excessive dot chasing and few fights.

I also have noticed a great excess of milk running lately. This was particularly bad in last weeks 1944 Western Europe setup. Keyapaha and I were flying Mossies and it was hard as hell to find a fight. I recall one guy using GVs that would leave for another base everytime we showed up. What is the point of that? If you want to be unoppsed why not just run it solo offline?

NoBaddy · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2003, 06:54:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
I'm not really a regular, but nor do I avoid it.

The thing that annoys me most about the CT is the low numbers combined with the radar and icon settings. These factors combine to create excessive dot chasing and few fights.

Agreed.

Toad · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2003, 07:45:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
combined with the radar and icon settings. These factors combine to create excessive dot chasing and few fights.

Bingo.

There's still that idea that futzing with the radar and icons somehow makes the CT more "realistic" or some such nonsense.

If icons were TRULY realistic, they'd disappear when you get close.. we have it just the opposite.

NoBaddy · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2003, 08:17:23 PM »

Oh...I forgot to add the annoying nonsense of constantly having your perks reset.

Batz · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2003, 08:23:36 PM »

Icon and radar setting have varied and guess what, there werent any more people in the ct then usual.

Also milk running in the ct isnt a recent thing it started when base capture was added.

The reason dot chasing is a problem is because most of the time one side has faster planes and unless they decide to fight you will never catch them.

In ah you can spot the "dot" clear as day from way out. radar settings change with who ever is running this weeks set up.

It wouldnt matter if you had full radar from the deck to space and covering every corner. If folks rather milk run or practice aerial strafing runs aka bore and ZZZZZZ then a low populated arena is boring. Take the night, the base porking and field capture out and put the "combat" back into the "combat" theater and you may find folks who like to fight head there especially when the pizza map is up.

The 1 thing that brings in players is a decent map with bases that are close and plane set thats relatively equal.

Furious · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2003, 08:36:06 PM »

Numbers. Also, which ever side has the percieved edge will greatly outnumber the "lesser" opponent.

Shane · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2003, 08:43:15 PM »

sorry batz... it's been a long long long time since they've used MA standard settings for dar and in the meantime the AH playerbase has truly expanded dramatically. one wouldn't waste time chasing a dot if one could tell whether it was friend or foe. the matchups are *usually* pretty balanced with no one side having a huge overall speed advantage.

NB... if the perks weren't reset (and they aren't very often as we don't often have perked rides) occasionally, it'd defeat the intent of having perked rides as we'd all have gobs and gobs of perkies earned and unspent (or unspendable). besides, when there *are* perked rides, the cost is usually so laughable that you can earn enough for anything with a sortie or 3. hell, i earned a weeks worth of p-51's with 2 sorties of 109f4.

Toad · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2003, 09:32:39 PM »

When did they last try MA "standard" and announce it so everyone knew?

If one side has faster planes... um, who picks the planeset? Can't that be balanced?

Chairboy · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2003, 09:36:09 PM »

Numbers.

Yeager · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2003, 09:57:56 PM »

If your just playing the game for a ten minute "fix" then the ct is going to be difficult for you to enjoy. The ct is a bit more frustrating exactly because of reduced icons and dar but the result is a more challenging and difficult environment to play in than the ma, usually.....for me......in my opinion.

Its not about the ct or the ma being better than the other, its about the players preferences. For me I tend to experience the ct as a bit more of a simulation of ww2 that I dont get from the ma. Im just happy there is a viable alternative to the ma.

Snork · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2003, 10:15:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Furious
Numbers. Also, which ever side has the percieved edge will greatly outnumber the "lesser" opponent.

Sounds like a "Catch-22". The numbers are low because the numbers are low.

Batz · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2003, 10:23:27 PM »

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When did they last try MA "standard" and announce it so everyone knew?

If one side has faster planes... um, who picks the planeset? Can't that be balanced?

Unless you just enable all planes for all sides then no there is no balance. If oneside planes are "better" then its turns into your typical gangbang.

Shane there aint that many folks in the ct to get confused as to who the bad guy is. If the 2 dots are there to fight then on just spotting each other they would move closer to fight. You have dots running from dots. Most of the time friendly icons are at 6k main standard.

Its not like the dots are hard to spot.

The problem with the ct isnt that its so different then the main, its because its to close. Then oneday last week I went into the ct some tard came in pork augered the radar at the field then came back killed the fuel on the france map. Those bases are pretty far apart as is so I just logged. The other time I went in it was night.

The last time I was in the finrus map some one had milk run all the fields around hq and were constantly knocking it down.

Turn off field capture and night I dont think it matters what the icon settings are.

There times when theres 40 people in the ct and 25 of umm are on the "massive jabo misson of the week" deal.

The current slot set up is great as long as the fights are around 2 of the closer bases. For the most part the ct is like the pizza map hard to find a fight but not because of radar and icons but of the 40 gus in there you only find 2 or 3 that like to fight.

Convince the next ct cm to put main settings, it wont matter. I had main settionmgs up a few time when i was a ct cm. When I ran the big week setup I had longer radar settings then the main. There were no more folks the usual and most of those complained.

Maybe I shouldda spammed the entire ah player base because its obvious had the players known they would have flocked there.

The fact is the main is a better fight 90% of the time. If the ct were that good folks would be there regardless if dar is 25 miles or 50.

But hey like I said tell umm to try it again.

Flossy · « **Reply #14 on:** August 26, 2003, 02:36:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Shane
it'd defeat the intent of having perked rides as we'd all have gobs and gobs of perkies earned and unspent (or unspendable).

Like I have in the MA?