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Offline rc51

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« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2003, 12:43:06 PM »
Why don't they use the money made from The Oil revenues to rebuild Iraq?
That way the Usa Is not out any more money than it already is.
We need that money for programs here in the the states for AMERICANS!!!
Iraq Has the ability to make all the money it needs to rebuild itself:mad:

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« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2003, 12:43:50 PM »
God please forgive me for this schadenfreude

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« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2003, 12:45:14 PM »
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Originally posted by rc51
Why don't they use the money made from The Oil revenues to rebuild Iraq?
That way the Usa Is not out any more money than it already is.
We need that money for programs here in the the states for AMERICANS!!!
Iraq Has the ability to make all the money it needs to rebuild itself:mad:


Its infrastructure, both political and financial, is in the dumpsters.  It will use the money to pay us back hopefully. (shrugs)

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« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2003, 12:47:12 PM »
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Democrats are interested in one thing....getting back in power.


That is a 2 way street.
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« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2003, 01:19:55 PM »
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Rude, I never said I disagreed with spending money on rebuilding Iraq. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of many (not all) republiclowns on this BBS who go nuts whenever democrats try to spend money on improving the living conditions of all Americans.


If one believes that invading Iraq was done only to rape the petroleum resource, then that was done for the benefit of the American and 'western' economies, and thereby for the benefit of Americans.

If one believes that invading Iraq was done to control the spread of WMD's and to force Iraq to comply with 1441, then that was done for the benefit of the American and 'western' populations, and thereby for the benefit of Americans.

If a total Somalia style withdrawl were to occur, Iraq would become worse than before. Once the war started, stabilizing Iraq became our only choice.  Therefore, money spent in Iraq for the stabilization of that country is money spent for the benefit of Americans.

The money spent chasing the 'Great Society' programs has done little to lower the poverty rate.  Last I read, there are more per capita citizens living in poverty than before LBJ's programs were instituted.
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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2003, 03:11:12 PM »
So we should forget about instituting social reforms at home, and instead rely on overseas conquering and rebuilding as a way of improving life in America?

I sure hope that isn't the wave of the future.

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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2003, 03:15:40 PM »
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That, my friend, is not comparing apples to oranges. It's comparing apples to apples, and I'm right and it makes you angry.


You're kiddin yourself Wank....I'm hardly angry watching you posture.

Remarks about turning our backs on the American people is simply a lie...democratic dribble.

I suppose the 400 Billion dollar perscription drug bill does not qualify....how about Tom Daschels 80 billion dollar Farm Aid bill which Bush also signed into law. There are many others.

To listen to you, one would think the sky was falling....calm down a bit...sadly, the truth of the matter is that both the repubs and dems do not serve the best interest of the American public, but rather their own interests.

Bush spoke clearly when we began as did Rumsfeld regarding the length of time necessary to accomplish this mission....years not months were conveyed to the American public...you must have short term memory loss.

Anyone who would think that a quick and painless solution should be at hand re: Iraq, is kidding themselves...sounds like one of my children and how they view the world.:)

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« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2003, 03:35:56 PM »
It's just terrible isn't it?

Chew On This banana

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« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2003, 03:43:22 PM »
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And again, why are the same Dems that were saying Bush Sr. screwed up by not going all the way to Baghdad in 1991 now the same democrats crying about more spending to rebuild Iraq?


Just for clarification Rip... those Dem's are a Canadian (skernsk) and Gofaster?

looking........


Nope... those dem's haven't posted here. Wrong again Oh shiny headed bimmerphile.

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« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2003, 04:10:21 PM »
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So we should forget about instituting social reforms at home, and instead rely on overseas conquering and rebuilding as a way of improving life in America?

I sure hope that isn't the wave of the future.


How you divined that sentiment out of what I wrote is questionable.

I was commenting on the view that it is not hypocritical to advocate spending American money (and lives) to protect the safety of American citizens by finishing the job from which we cannot possibly back away, and in the same breath, critcizing failed Great Society programs.

Possibly better designed domestic programs might be succesfull, but those of the Great Society pattern are flawed when viewed through the prism of history.
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« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2003, 04:53:26 PM »
Guys, guys, the real issue here is how my posting of this topic got me put on this gay "On Probation" crap.

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« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2003, 05:02:02 PM »
Your avatar did that.......

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« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2003, 05:03:05 PM »
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Guys, guys, the real issue here is how my posting of this topic got me put on this gay "On Probation" crap.


I'm sure it wasn't this thread, but I could point to about a dozen others that may have deemed you on probation.

And I don't think "gay" probation means you're happy, right?

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« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2003, 09:50:09 AM »
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It's just terrible isn't it?

Chew On This banana

:D


Gee, I may have underestimated the man, afterall. ;)

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« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2003, 01:44:19 PM »
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God please forgive me for this schadenfreude



You're forgiven.....