Author Topic: Switching over to rudder pedals (Read 896 times)

Zanth · « **on:** September 19, 2003, 09:25:10 AM »

I am trying to switch over to rudder pedals (from twisty stick) since last weekend. It is pretty frustrating as I find I am basically having to learn to fly all over again. I think I have the sliders and etc. set wrong as my nose is going all over the sky (or into the ground if I am close enough).

Any tips on settings etc? I think maybe I got into some bad rudder habits with the twisty stick?

loser · « **Reply #1 on:** September 19, 2003, 09:55:05 AM »

It is a big change from hoopty stick over to rudder pedals, but stick with it. It will definately be worth the extra trouble. It took me about a month to become proficient in using them. So dont worry if you are sucking after a few days.

I dont have my CH pedals anymore because I broke them and cant afford a new set right now. It was a tougher transition to the toggle on my X45 than it was from my logitech hoopty stick to rudder pedals.

As far as settings go..you will have to get that from someone else.

AcId · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2003, 09:59:32 AM »

When I went from twisty to peds it took me a while. Your right about having to re-learn how to fly. At first I had my peds way too sensitive, there is soo much more granularity in peds than twisties. For the first half of the range of ped motion I had to turn the sensitivity way down so I that I had finer control. Also it may take a bit for your legs/feet to adjust and be comfortable with fine movements.

Easyscor · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2003, 10:17:25 AM »

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Originally posted by AcId
When I went from twisty to peds it took me a while. Your right about having to re-learn how to fly. At first I had my peds way too sensitive, there is soo much more granularity in peds than twisties. For the first half of the range of ped motion I had to turn the sensitivity way down so I that I had finer control. Also it may take a bit for your legs/feet to adjust and be comfortable with fine movements.

Yup. Keep the pedals sluggish near the center point to improve your flying and aim. It took me about a month to get used to mine and it was made worse because I'm a skier and it was opposite to what felt natural. Funny thing is I never noticed it in a real airplane.

Max · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2003, 10:48:06 AM »

Prepare to watch yer gun hit percentage take a nose dive. I switched over a few months ago and am JUST BEGINNING to get the hang of using peds for deflections shots.

As for settings...I began with a gradual increase from 0 - 100 with the sliders. That worked well with Yaks and nimble turners, but was very sluggish with my primary ride, the Typhoon. I now have 'em set too 100% across the board with just a tad of damping and deadband. That seems to suit me better.

Good luck

DmdMax
Damned MKXX

lucull · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2003, 01:26:20 PM »

Switching from twist stick to rudder pedals is pain, daily and it's lasting for weeks/month.

First you have to force yourself not to twist the stick, then you have to force yourself to move the feet instead, then think about which feet to move forward and someday you reach the point where you don't think which is the correct move you just do it like you twisted before. All that is left at this point is to learn how much you have to move your feet to be accurate again like you used to be before.

But you will get to point, where you realize that pedals are better and you never want to change back, but this is a long and painful way.

After 6 month now, I'm very satisfied with my simpeds vario USB.

Replicant · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2003, 03:37:48 PM »

I originally had a twisty rudder stick, then went onto the Saitek X36 which has the rudder in the throttle. I eventually went over to rudder pedals about 18 months ago (when I got Cougar) and I think it took around a month or so to get used to them. I feel I have more control in them now and especially when braking (toe brakes).

Which pedals did you go for?

mia389 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 19, 2003, 04:21:42 PM »

hehe I had to go from rudder twist to feet pedals in a real plane. I kept asking my instructor, " why dont planes have a yoke with a twist stick for the rudder". I bet the rudders on the pc are pretty sensitive. I would like to give them a try sometime.

LLv34 Jarsci · « **Reply #8 on:** September 19, 2003, 05:00:30 PM »

When flying for real, pedals feel just natural. BUT when trying to use them in a sim, no way!!

For me the pedals should be nailed to the floor and also the chair... For me its just too damned impossible to use some cheap plastic paddles as rudders, which also tend to crawl on the floor away from my legs. No feedback at all, you don't feel the airflow pushing back....

So I decided that for online flying twistys and IRL real thing. Not gonna change that.

Replicant · « **Reply #9 on:** September 19, 2003, 06:08:00 PM »

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Originally posted by LLv34 Jarsci
When flying for real, pedals feel just natural. BUT when trying to use them in a sim, now way!!

For me the pedals should be nailed to the floor and also the chair... For me its just too damned impossible to use some cheap plastic paddles as rudders, which also tend to crawl on the floor away from my legs. No feedback at all, you don't feel the airflow pushing back....

So I decided that for online flying twistys and IRL real thing. Not gonna change that.

Yup, see where you're coming from Jarsci, luckily my rudder pedals are fixed and don't move and my chair doesn't move either! Need force feedback pedals!

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 19, 2003, 06:15:32 PM »

If you are using the CH Pro Pedals USB, go in the Control Manager and turn the response curve way down near center. That will prevent the over-controlling.

wetrat · « **Reply #11 on:** September 19, 2003, 06:18:52 PM »

I've considered switching over to pedals... but then I might lose my 30% acc's and will have wasted $150

Fariz · « **Reply #12 on:** September 20, 2003, 04:21:03 AM »

Pedals takes some time to get used to, but when you do they are good. I spent about 3 months to get a feel on them, and at least 6 months to be as good with them as I was with twisty stick, but now I enjoy the advantages of pedals.

moot · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2003, 04:37:15 AM »

would be perfect to have twist axis as small rudder movements, and pedals as large ones.

Sancho · « **Reply #14 on:** September 20, 2003, 08:24:55 AM »

echo what everyone else said. It will be frustrating and you may want to go back to the twisty stick but don't do it! It took me about a month to adjust to the pedals but it is worth it.