Poverty up during Bush

[Udie]

Originally posted by rpm371
If you put all the vagrants and "bums" together it would make up less than .005% of the people living in poverty. It's the working poor that make up the majority. Where I live most people must drive at least 60 miles for a job with a decent ($10 hr +) wage. Factor in the gas you burn to get to and from the job and you are just making ends meet. It's the Uber-Rich CEO's that get millions when they are fired for incompetence as part of their severance that does not help the economic figures. That alone throws any "average wage" figure out the window.

 No,  I said I just call what I see.  $10/hr sux.  I must be rich    Sure don't feel like it.

[Yeager]

poverty in america aint so bad

[Rude]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
actually eagler, clack is promoting investment in the infrastructure. Not tax hikes. This isnt about the economy, its about the growing gap between the class's.

please stop....you can't possibly be serious.

Anyone who believes that growth in the 90's was due to Clinton, that the 90's growth was going to be free of a correction(I know you guys believe Bill defeated the business cycle) and that Bush is to blame for a natural correction along with 9-11 not impacting the current economy, is either so partisan it's laughable or is simple-minded.

You guys must be in your twenties.

[Udie]

Originally posted by GScholz
I think this only proves that statistics means nothing (as usual). How many people are actually poor in your country?

Anyways, I am very pleased with our system, although there are things I'd like changed or modified a bit on the taxation side in particular, but I guess it's like that in every country. What I like most about our system is that whatever should befall me I know that my society will take care of me (like it did 6 months ago when I lost my job). I know that I will always have a roof over my head and food on my table. If I should get ill I know that my medical needs will be taken care of. I know that when I grow old, no matter what happens, I have at least a minimum pension guaranteed by the state, and if/when I get to frail to take care of myself my society will. If I have kids in the future (hope so I know they will get a good education no matter how much me and my spouse earn. I think this is a great freedom to be able to pursue a meaningful life without having to worry about the future. Low taxes and inexpensive cars are a luxury I am willing to forgo to have that freedom.

 I have no clue how many poor people there are here in America. Probably less than the dems say and more than the Reps say.  I have had surgery 3 times in my life.  Only paid for it once.  I've never been turned away from ANY emergency room.  I will always have a roof over my head, even if I'm homeless there are places to go get help, many more than the dems would have you know. When I get old I'll get to take back my money from the Ponzy scheme that is Social Security, though I could make that money go alot further if they'd let me (that's the main thing that makes me a conservative too - in America, I don't have the freedom to do as I wish with the money I earned.  I understand we have to pay taxes, but they just waste it, millions at a time.  Maybe you're lucky in your country and you can actually trust your gov,  we can't here.

 Now free college would be nice, BUT There are PLENTY of ways to get funding for school.  I went through 2.5 years of college and didn't spend a dime of my own money on it.  Did it with Pale grants.  There were many many many other "private" grants too.  A person can go through college with grants and no loans, they just have to be wily enough to look for them.

 Socialism would be fantastic! If I could just trust the people who are elected to control it, they do a piss poor job at it.....

[rpm]

Originally posted by Yeager
poverty in america aint so bad

A recent CBS News story.

But in Ohio, the lines continue to grow. In the first three months of this year, the lines jumped by nearly 20 percent with over 200,000 more families standing in line for food.

p.s. Nice of you to think of your fellow man, Yeager.

[Rude]

Originally posted by rpm371
A recent CBS News story.
 


p.s. Nice of you to think of your fellow man, Yeager.

Nice of you to continue telling us the sky is falling....very predictable

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Eagler


psst it is from the '90's bubble burst

This is the funniest thing that contiuously spurts forth from the righty tighties. The longest economic upswing in our Nations history was in fact just a set up for this mini recession. That bastard Clinton only let the "bubble" grow for 8 years just to make himself look good. That darn economic "bubble" should never be allowed to happen again!!

[rpm]

Originally posted by Rude
Nice of you to continue telling us the sky is falling....very predictable

I suppose we should just look the other way....nothing to see here....move along. Try reading the article.

[Eagler]

do you honestly think he'd been re-elected if he had today's economy in '96?

I mean with his track record to that date ... hmmm?

slick had nothing to do with the rise of the bubble (it would have happened if the white house was empty - the course was set by previous admins) as bush had nothing to do with the fall of the correction but bush has put in place, steps for a recovery the dems of 04 want to remove

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by midnight Target
This is the funniest thing that contiuously spurts forth from the righty tighties. The longest economic upswing in our Nations history was in fact just a set up for this mini recession. That bastard Clinton only let the "bubble" grow for 8 years just to make himself look good. That darn economic "bubble" should never be allowed to happen again!!

Investing in Dutch Tulips lately?  Maybe buy Gold at 800 / oz?  How about follow the Hunt Bros into silver?

I know, let's invest in Pets.com, lets-give-away-music-and-not-have-any-possible-chance-of-positive-cash-flow.com (napster) or *anything*.com that has no assets and a stock value of 100 Billion....

Naw, the tech bubble didn't happen....  And bubbles never happened in the history of the western world.....

[Sixpence]

I knew napster was behind it.

[Thrawn]

Everything will be blamed on Clinton and 9/11, until a Democrat President is elected.

[Holden McGroin]

Come on now, I just blamed everything on Napster and Pets.com...

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Everything will be blamed on Clinton and 9/11, until a Democrat President is elected.

yes, as the new ills he/she creates will trivialize the past ones ...

[sonofagun]

Originally posted by GScholz
Could you elaborate a bit on this,
GSHoltz,

In the US the state provides free meals to school children, free medical care, free post secondary education, free heat and food, free diapers, subsidized housing and probably a lot that I am unaware of.  You only have to meet certain low income standards, some of which are actually above these poverty standards.

Most homeless here simply choose that lifestyle and refuse to go to shelters that are available.  Many are mentally unstable and unless they pose a danger to themselves or to others, the state cannot force them into shelters.

For example, there is not a child in this country that doesn't have access to health care, as some politicians would have you believe.

Many of these stories concerning our economy are published with only enough facts to support certain political ideologies.

BTW, I'm third generation Norwegian.(actually 1/2)