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« Reply #75 on: October 01, 2003, 02:06:43 PM »
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What are you talking about...I posted that link today.

OK, I redirect my comment to MrLars.

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« Reply #76 on: October 01, 2003, 02:18:21 PM »
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OK, I redirect my comment to MrLars.


I could tell you, but then I'd have to leak another 'suicide' report.  :)

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« Reply #77 on: October 01, 2003, 02:28:33 PM »
A dark van just parked outside my house.

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« Reply #78 on: October 01, 2003, 02:45:20 PM »
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Ambassador Joseph Wilson revealed on August 29 the identity of the leaker (to the Washington Post) that Wilson’s wife is a CIA agent of 26 years.

Her team was tasked with WMD proliferation issues.

As a consequence of this leak, her entire team of overseas assets were liquidated. (70 agents)

The leaker, it turns out was Karl H. Rove, White House advisor.

Looks like the Bush team is following in Clintons foot steps, except they are not "downsizing" the intelligence apparatus by firing people.

They just get them killed.  :eek:


k2cok it's even worse than most think. They flew them to Jenin at midnight in black helicopters and killed them by force-feeding them 2.5 lbs. of Pop-Rocks each and then forcing 2 l. of Coca-Cola down their throats. Oh, the humanity!

There's 2 options here:

1. You made this up yourself. In that case, please take a hammer and hit yourself in the head a couple of times - you deserve it.

2. You actually read this somewhere. Please tell me where so I can go make millions by selling the readers of that source 'authentic worn-by-David Duchovny dirty underwear' (Aha! I'll never have to do laundry again!) and 'real rocks from faked moon landing set'.

Here's a reality check - She could not have been 'blown' or 'outed' by anyone because She's an analyst and was not working under any type of cover. Her Husband listed her name and her employer (CIA) on his own website. The only reason the CIA asked Novak to not mention her name is because it's SOP to never officially verify any type of data - even nonclassified data - unless there's a good reason from the intelligence community's POV (like talking about what a stud Mikey Spann was at his memorial service).

Furthermore - the IDs of agents (as opposed to analysts) working 'under a cover' and the 'nature' of *any* 'cover' are all closely guarded secrets. The President himself is not aware of them due to 'need to know' restrictions. The President may be briefed with intelligence developed by agents working under a cover in very, very dangerous circumstances - but before that intelligence reaches the President himself it is 'sanitized' to 'protect sources and methods'. In other words, even the President is told "Don't ask how we know this, but we know it's true". In general, the ID and cover details of an agent are only known to the person directly responsible for the operation(s) the agent is involved in. A case officer could not be ordered by the DO to reveal the 'current' 'cover' of an agent in the field. The DO might already know, but his access to the information could be limited by the 'need to know' clause just like the President's.

About the only time you will ever have someone 'working for the CIA and their Husband has no idea' is when you have a foreign National working 'in place' (i.e. still at the HQ for the Strategic Rocket Forces) as an agent for the CIA, etc. That is obviously not the case here. The Spouses and Family and close friends of covert operatives know that they work for the CIA, DIA, M.I. 5, M.I. 6, AH2 development team, etc. They just don't know what they are doing or where they are doing it at any given time.

Rogwar could probably add some more, but he'd have to kill you all. :)

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« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2003, 03:12:39 PM »
I wonder what would have happened if that information would have been disclosed by a Democrat.

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« Reply #80 on: October 01, 2003, 03:14:26 PM »
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I wonder what would have happened if that information would have been disclosed by a Democrat.


We may find out as that is still a possibility yet to be determined.
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« Reply #81 on: October 01, 2003, 03:18:33 PM »
I forgot to add, or by a Republican while the Democrats where in power.

Yeah, I hope some heads will roll. This is totally outrageous. What was he thinking...

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« Reply #82 on: October 01, 2003, 03:29:58 PM »
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A dark van just parked outside my house.


You should close your drapes....shorty  :)

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« Reply #83 on: October 01, 2003, 03:29:58 PM »
I get the impression Bush is angry about this and wants some heads to roll, too.


Erl - hope I didn't hurt your feelings. I just have this funny image of my daughter rebelling against me and marrying some guy like your avatar, and having him approach me at the wedding reception and saying, "Hey dude, can I call you dad now?" :lol
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« Reply #84 on: October 01, 2003, 03:31:41 PM »
NO. First ammendment rights will protect him.
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« Reply #85 on: October 01, 2003, 03:48:21 PM »
Yeah, I read it somewhere wulfie.

But based on your post you are not worth having a conversation with, you are too closed-minded to argue with.

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« Reply #86 on: October 01, 2003, 03:54:44 PM »
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Yeah, I read it somewhere wulfie.

But based on your post you are not worth having a conversation with, you are too closed-minded to argue with.


At least that's true about one of you two.
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« Reply #87 on: October 01, 2003, 04:22:59 PM »
Here's what I mean AKiron:

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Here's a reality check - She could not have been 'blown' or 'outed' by anyone because She's an analyst and was not working under any type of cover.


Even Bush has commited himself to finding out who "outed" Valerie Plame, then along comes wulfie defending dear leader by regurgitating Republican spin about her "just" being an analyst.

He can't even admit a crime has happened, that is close minded wouldn't you sa?

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« Reply #88 on: October 01, 2003, 04:35:00 PM »
I don't know that it has yet been established that a crime has been committed. Guess we should leave that up to the DOJ?
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« Reply #89 on: October 01, 2003, 04:38:47 PM »
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NO. First ammendment rights will protect him.


it appears you are right, becqause the law requires the person to have access and be a fed employee, whuich novak is not

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