Observations about Gameplay on Fester’s new map

[gofaster]

Originally posted by beet1e
There are hundreds of bases on the pizza map, and it's not a problem for me there either. I commented on the number of pizza map bases at the time of its inception, and that at certain times of the day the number of bases exceeded the number of players.  My exact description was "a ridiculous looking map".

So I was expecting a departure from that kind of design, but instead, we have another map with layers and layers of unused bases.

Today's unused fighter base is today's deep-strike bomber base.

Its also a future front line base.

[AcId]

It isn't a problem for you yet you go on about how it's "ridiculous looking" and that it wasn't what you were expecting.

Sounds to me like yer just stirrin the pot.

[beet1e]

No AcID - my remark of "ridiculous looking" was made when Pizza was first introduced. It also turned out to be the map I like best. Reasons:

• Hi alt fighting - lets planes like P47 excel - and LA7 wheeze.
• Fields spaced adequately - much less suicide-pork-n-auger-rinse-n-repeat.
• Because of fields adequately spaced, less chance of someone you just killed killing you 2 mins later by coming in from the field next door.
• Variety - I instantly loved those outer crust GV battles.

So even though it was ridiculous looking, it still had the ingredients for fun - though fun in this community is highly subjective. I don't expect you to agree with me.

[AcId]

sounded like the comparison of folks online + the amount of bases made it look rediculous, I took that sentence the wrong way.

On the topic of "field spacing". Enough, too much, not enough, are all opinions. We all have our opinions. My opinion is that Pizza/Big Isles are too far apart and on FesterMA some are too close.
If it bothered me to the point it bothered Fester I'd probably create my own map too however, it doesn't. I live with it and make the best of it. We're all allowed to voice our opinions.

My opinion is if the guy I just killed comes back and is able to kill me, Good for him. God forbid he puts up a good fight. I'd rather be in a good fight and die if I've learned something than kill someone who wasn't paying attention.

Because the fields are further apart does not mean less pork-n-auger runs. I've seen it first hand on Pizza.

There might be variety on FesterMA. Maybe you'll see it, maybe not, either way I'd suggest staying away from the middle ya might git hurt

Fun is highly subjective, you may enjoy mashed-potato-sculpting as an enjoyable past time, I assure you others may not. If your not having fun take a break man, or at least wait till Pizza's on.

[tomato]

Originally posted by Rude
Beetle....

This map in no way prohibits you from your strat minded gameplay...it does allow for those of us who would like some action without having to fly a sector and a half to find it.

That clearly bothers you....and I'm not suprised you posted about it...I told several that you would whine.

As to you purple quote, every map is designed to promote a specific type of game play...balanced gameplay...you know, the kind where everyone might enjoy themselves

I can see your point - realism can go so far, in a game.  Who wants to take 20 minutes to get to a destination?  Good movies manage time compression quite convincingly ... so can games.  

But I think the point that Beet1e is making is that vulchers are more catered for than are strategists.  Each to his own, but you each pay your $15-a-month, and each hopes to get a certain amount of satisfaction out of it.  

It would seem that the heart of the matter is the map.  Fester's map seems generally well-received, and he has to be contratulated, I think.  But isn't there scope for building on Fester's map, so that everyone gets something of what he wants?

Just my 2p's worth!

[Pirate BK]

Beet1e ... not to start a flame war here, but do you just like to read the text you post? Stir up some sheet? I mean really look, listen to what you spew.. never happy. Not to mention IF I see a post from Toad or a few others it is only a matter of time before you feel the need to chime in, why?

One can only hope that HT & or Scuzzy looks at what is posted & WHO posts what, and over time gets a feel for what is going on. Also pop into the game, hell IF this were my company I would be in Aces High heaven seeing ALL these PAYING customers having FUN. Say what you want but more than not flying tolerate some maps due to lack of choice. Here comes fester & "TADA" people are enjoying the game again.... well one can argue or a "FEW" will complain.

I think the reason that many complained about pizza or other maps is because they REALLY hated flying them. I know my time online during pizza was / is limited. I just find it hard to believe very many players would not like this map. I am not saying it would be ALL players FIRST choice. But rather ask this... IF we could only have one map what map would that be? Festers would get my vote .. and I think would be in the top two by others. Since we have a rotation of maps why start mucking up the BBS? Again not to offend any one flying here. If some of you feel that Festers map is unbalanced, boring, or worse than lets say .. pizza, then I apologize in advance. I just don't get it though. This map is really well done, & with "discussion" may even improve.

Thank you again Fester for a job well done.

Pirate

[vorticon]

Originally posted by LePaul
Muck

Can you imagine the whines if our bombers shut down the La7 plant  

I agree the bombers dont have much of a role...with the GV spawns so close to cities, I was targetting VHs to halt the GV attacks on our front line base

they dont have any role at all...the only 2 that DONT carry the same amount of ordanace or less are the lancaster and the b17...and those are so slow its not even worth it...in fact the only bombers with any usable use are the ju88 ki67 and tbm...and thats only because they carry torpedos

[NJMAW]

I am just here for the beads Jerry!

[beet1e]

Pirate - I take your comments on board, but that's bit rich coming from you. You have only posted a handful of times, mostly to whine about the pizza map. And here you are, beating up on me about my comments on Fester's map, and I'm not even whining. If you want to see who is "stirring up sheet", look to the pizza map whiners. Oh wait - you are one of them.

How can you chastise me for "commenting" on a map, when others whine about pizza?

[Drunky]

I like pizza.



















































and beer too.

[VAQ]

Originally posted by vorticon
they dont have any role at all...the only 2 that DONT carry the same amount of ordanace or less are the lancaster and the b17...and those are so slow its not even worth it...in fact the only bombers with any usable use are the ju88 ki67 and tbm...and thats only because they carry torpedos

What an acute observation.

Any other pearls of wisdom you care to share based upon your personal Main Arena time of one hour, thirty-five minutes, and two seconds?

Heavy bomber squadrons in general have taken it in the freaking shorts for the last two years and have for the most part kept playing and kept quiet.

However-

It's one thing to endure the gameplay castration of heavy bombers and the incessant derogatory remarks from the play-my-way, boohoo a bomber killed my FH/VH/cv/shot me down/whatever subscribers in the Main Arena but such a comment concerning the role of heavy bombers in the Main Arena (and the gameplay/strat issues of a new MA map) from a H2H player is untenable.

look the word up if you have to

[lazs2]

Hmmm... you can have any kind of gameplay you want on this map but....

so can everyone else.   that is the problem for the "poor gameplay" types... people aren't forced to play with them... players have the opportunity to play like anal strat dweebs.... they just don't...

It is like I have said many times... given opportunity people will have fun.    Festabria gives opportunity... people are having fun.

The "no good gameplay" types are basicaly saying that they don't like the map because mommy isn't making people play with them.


Let's see.... they can go to the CT and organize "missuns" or they can make their own map or...
lazs

[Toad]

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Shack.

[straffo]

shack ???

[Toad]

"bullseye"