Poll: Which put you off WW2OL more - launch or fanboy posts?

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by LtReiben
I replied with that initial top line because you're standing by the Vulcan like his post was some perfectly just and meaningful post, when it really has no effect than "why we should hate WWIIOL" and you know it. I come here and try and simply try and make all this crap that ALWAYS happens end, and I try to be nice about it, and im just thrown into the group of "WWIIOLers" and immediately told to go away.

Umm, my thread was simple supposed to be a poll, because Zeroace didn't consider any of his posts from earlier this year to be damaging to the WW2OL community. He kept insisting fanboy posts on the AH BBS had nothing to do with the 'hatred', I just wanted to say not true.

Don't forget I'm a paying playing active member of WW2OL (for oh about 9 months now), I was on for 5 hours last night even! I'm a member of 3rd Panzer. If you think I 'hate' WW2OL you couldn't be more wrong.

I'm off to change my handle to JerrySpringer.

[Batz]

See your the typical wwiiol type, a insulting lying fanboi

Heres the order of your posts

1.

Guys, honestly, please don't bash the game for what it was 2 years ago. The game has come further in the past 2 years than most games have in 5. CRS had done a great job on the game, and if you played it now, you would not even recognize it. Bashing a game cause it got bad reviews when released (especially a MMOG) is kinda silly considering there is very few MMOGs that launch without any mistakes. WW2OL is fun, I like to play it, and I like Aces High. But please cut the flaming on CRS, there a great Dev team, and they spend more time informing the community on what is going on more than any Dev team I have ever seen. Come on guys, your more mature than this

Then diablo

Dsty, your rambling fanboi comments about WW2OL are no different than Zeroace's were a couple of months ago. Is the game changed that much since then? I really doubt it. And if it were all that and a bag of chips some senior members of this BBS (more than just Gadfly) would have stated so on this board. All the evidence this community needs about an online game is the community itself, those of us that have been here for a while, post on a daily basis, and know each other to certain degrees. No amount of whining by you or Pesticide (perfect name BTW) will change that fact.

then you

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They continue to lie and continue to keep the blowhards and liars on the staff
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I'm sorry, but that is such a BS statement, explain to me where they have lied? I bet NONE of you have played the game in the past 6 months.


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Wwiiol isn’t new to us. Many have played and still play. What hardcase and zeroace do in making their "friendly information posts" is spew a bunch of lies about how great wwiiol is. But when folks call umm on issues they get defensive and lie by saying those issues don’t exist or say, "you are the only one".
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So, just because you don't like WW2OL means it must be a lie if somebody says it is great? Everybody is entitled to there own opinion, but come on now, your being a hypocrite when you say that.


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CRS just want's to cashflow ww20nline...nothing wrong with that.
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Come on, you can't honestly be serious? If all they cared about was the money, then they don't have much money to care about. The community is small, just like AH community.

And about complaining threads getting locked, yes they do, if they get to the point where there is alot of flaming (And that happens alot :|) but otherwise, CRS listens to our opinions and they know what needs to be fixed.

I don't hate you guys for making these horrible remarks about WW2OL & CRS, but I am dissapointed that such a mature group as yourselfs would bash a game you probably haven't played in a long time, and to make it worse, bash the community, which is full of nice, fun people. You guys really dissapoint me

You see you already replied to him

Then he says

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Originally posted by Dsty2001
I'm sorry, but that is such a BS statement, explain to me where they have lied? I bet NONE of you have played the game in the past 6 months.
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Wrong. Tried it 3 months ago. Came to the same conclusion I did 18 months ago:it's a POS. Try again.

Then you call him an *******.

So lie all ya want. Your a heck of a wwiiol ambassador. Not as good as hardcase or zeroace but keep trying you'll get there.

edit

thats why I mention killers reading ability as it says "VM EXTERNAL" clearly in neon green at the top of the image.

[Mathman]

Back to the original question:

What put me off WW2OL?

Well, it basically boils down to what interests me.  I like WW2 airplanes.  I prefer the PTO (Wildcats, Hellcats, Zekes, Hogs, TBMs, SBDs, Vals, Franks, Oscars, etc).  While all of those planes may not be in AH, the bulk of them are.  I have yet to see them in WW2OL.  In addition, I prefer to fly instead of tank and play infantry dude.

Is WW2OL crap?  Hell if I know.  It was when I tried it way back when.  I think the concept is great.  If I could jump in what plane I want and fly around and ignore the guys playing soldier on the ground, I might consider playing it.  It boils down to playing what you enjoy.  I have more fun killing **** in my F6F than I do driving tanks and running around with a rifle (well, maybe that isn't entirely correct, I do like Rainbow 6 and its derivatives).

Basically, what Rude said also applies to me.  AH offers what I enjoy more than WW2OL does.

Concerning the communites, I have no ill will towards the WW2OL community.  I do think the bozos that came over here in the past are assclowns, but then I think the same about some of the people in AH.

Remember, everyone is an prettythanghole, it just depends on whether they are your kind of prettythanghole or not.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

The thing that put me off was the flying, the fanboy butt love expressed by Zerocase (I'm convinced Zero and hard are one and the same) was just enough to make me enjoy talking trash about that aborted half-compiled mess of code known as WWIIOl.

This is my reaction to WWIIOl: Oh wow, a battlefield with humans controlling everything. Oh wow, the flying sucks. Oh wow, I deleted it. Oh wow, I'll never touch it again until they figure out the flying aspect.

Its funny though, someone posts something about WWIIOl here - people come rushing over here to "change our opinions" (whats that about? Are you all retired Nazis and Communists looking for something to do in your spare time?) while they stay over in their private gated community talking all the smack in the world they want about other games with only WWIIOl subscribers able to say anything positive about each respective game.

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Tards.
-SW

[thrila]

ok i clicked on the link to the wwiiol thread. Where is this sticky thread about bashing ww2ol on the AH ubb? that many are ranting about.

oh and killers screenshot of the canopy says internal. But it's odd how he got the pilots face, cause you only see the pilots face in external mode...something very fishy there.

[Imsneaky]

Hey guys, remember me?

Maybe not, I don't recognize the names.

Anyways back when Hardcase and Zeroace were doing their mayhem I guess, actually I think it was around that time.  Anyway, someone had posted about a new free 7 day trial over here and got flamed right off the bat.

He posted about how he got flamed and linked the thread.  I had heard about AH so I thought I would stop by to see what the hooplah was all about.

I will admit that hewas right. I believe it was Ring who posted the promo.  He was getting flamed mercilessly on the very first reply and every reply there after.  The because of the linked thread othe WWIIOLers came in and it became a slugfest with both sides just as guilty.

I stepped in and tried to be a voice of calm and reason.  Some responded as gentlemen, others did not.  Nothing against your community as I would expect the same in the WWIIOL boards.  Both communities have tardlets in them.

Both communities are also fairly loyal to their game, community and development team.  Nothing wrong with that at all.  It is a problem when we act like cavemen fighting over a fresh kill though.

As for me, if you remember I was building a new computer.  Well it is finished now.  It is:

Koolance water-cooled case (black)
Antec True Blue 480w Power Supply
Asus A7N8X-DX MoBo
AMD Athlon XP3000+ Barton Core
Corsair TwinX1024 PC3200 RAM (2 x 512MB matched pair)
Seagate Barracudas (2 x 120GB SATA) in RAID 0
Plextor Plexwriter Premium CD-RW
ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro

I said that I would try AH when I got it done.  I still intend to.  However I will wait till the Beta matures some before I waste my time.

I will say this though, if I had much in common with any of those posting here from AH, I probably wouldn't try AH.  I was treated very rudely first time around and I don't feel I deserved any of it.  I was simply unfortunate enough to walk into the middle of a pack of rabid dogs.  I however only play games for one reason, to have fun.  If I am having fun I will play the game.  Period.

I for one agree 100% with Killer on this one, most people in a community don't spend much if any time in the forums.  Too little time to spend on the computer and they don't feel like wasting it on the forums is my guess.

However the ones that do frequent the forums are sometimes a bit wacked in the head.  Often they seem to base too much of their identity on the game itself.  This is why gamers in genreal are looked upon as no life geeks in general by those who don't play games.  That vocal minority gives us a bad rap in places other than online forums.

Another issue I would like to point out is I have enjoyed WWIIOL and hope I enjoy AH2 as much.  As for you guys who have played and din't like it, I respect your opinion.  WWIIOL isn't for everyone.  I can also say that I enjoy WWIIOL alot more with my new computer.  If you don't have a great computer I wouldn't recommend WWIIOL nor alot of other games.

My old slotA Athlon barely ran WWIIOL with all the graphics and options dumbed down.  The new rig runs it fast with everything turned up to the max.  Like a new game for me.

If you found it buggy and unplayable, I believe you.  You have a valid complaint but I will also say that it isn't always the developers fault.

I found massive spyware on my computer and it took three anti-spyware programs to debug it.  I also found that my BIOS was out of date.  Lots of other stuff.  When I cleaned it the game ran OK, not great.  I also crashed to desktop alot or the game locked up sometimes.  New rig, no probs.

I think alot of you here should check yourselves though because you act no different than those you accuse.  The key is you are very abrasive in a way that you wouldn't be in person.  Some people feel it is ok to be rude when they are online.  Most of those guys are bunch of dweebs that would get their lights punched out if they acted that way in real life.

I guess my point is that I will try AH as I said I would inspite of the tards here, just as I stay with WWIIOl despite the tards there.

As for you, do whatever makes you happy and good luck, I don't wish ill-will on anyone.

[LtReiben]

It's nothing personal vulcan (Jerry), but to me it seems like you cant include "WWIIOL" or any form of it in the topic of any post here or else all hell breaks loose.


and as for AKS\/\/ulfe...

I don't know about others, but as for your opinions, I couldn't care less. I do care about  the basis for your opinions, like the two year old statements that arent true anymore or the plain BS that sprouts up.

Why?

because you scare off people in a WWII simming community who could've been perspective customers. People who could've enjoyed the experience if they tried. You think those of us that enjoy WWIIOL are all plain stupid or something? thats why we like it? No. WWIIOL 's never been w/o complaints... but believe it or not, some people like it, and some people may never know that they may like it too if they get scared off by threads which outline both true and false faults with the game, and try hard to discredit all the good parts of it.

this is someones livelihood here... CRS is comprised of human beings with families and bills to pay, and of all the obstacles they already have, they don't need other "rival" community members scaring off perspective buyers.

my posts have evidently gone WAY over peoples heads, so I'll sum in up in 12 words.

Don't even talk about WWIIOL anymore and there'll be no more problems.

Simple... it'll probably keep happening though, people enjoy these conflicts.

you know, we really do not say anything about Aces High in the WWIIOL Hangar forums unless something is started here... prove that wrong if you want to, because I could be wrong, but I got there quite frequently and wouldn't have said it for no reason.

you want me to simplify that last paragraph too? it basically says: "this crap always starts here"

and for further overall simplification... im not here to turn heads about WWIIOL... im here to make you guys just STFU about it because all you're doing is venting your anger and it hurts noone but WWIIOLs image.

[Lizard3]

Deleted due to content...by myself.

Hows that?

Does that work for ya? Go away and stfu.


Workin on a lock and IN before it happens!

Ok, that was a bit over the top, but hey...I was immature then.

[Imsneaky]

I think I will join Killer and HT in the box seats and watch the different Taliban clans have their little war.

Like Killer said, it came up at a convention for sim developers how many in their communities were becomng retards who couldn't see beyonnd their own identity they had cereated in a game.  On one hand they appreciated the money they paid but they also cringed at the idiocy and the 100% sure fire effect they ahd on chasing new clients away.

Well atleast I am comforted by the fact that WWIIOL and Delta Force Series communities (two I belong to) aren't teh only ones with a bevy of idiots.


See ya when I feel the beta is worth playing.

[LePaul]

Funny how the WW2OL guys are suddenly appearing here...as if calling for reinforcements....sigh

We dont play the game, this board has a big ole Aces High logo in the top left...why y'all keep beating a dead horse insisting we're playing the wrong game?

[Imsneaky]

Take off your blinders LePaul.

I don't want you to play WWIIOL, we have enough boneheads there, I am saying that I am going to try AH2 when it matures a little, despite those in the forums here like you.

I don't let the idiots in any forum keep me away from a game I may enjoy.

Like has been said before, when I get into the game I will discover the other 90% who aren't like you.

[muckmaw]

I stopped reading around post 157..

SKUZZY!!!!!!!!!!!

[Batz]

Excuse me Mr. Perfect, I forgot to put EVERY FREAKING THREAD IN ORDER SO YOU COULD FIGURE OUT 2+2

I do not respond to threads in order I see them, I respond to them in what catches my eye. I did not call him an ******* because he said WW2OL sucked, I called him an ******* cause he said I was a Fanboy just like Zeroace and Hardcase, when he does not even know me. Just like you

Nice try again, but your hatred is clogging your logical thinking. Maybe when you have a mental capacity of that higher than a 7 year old you will realise things better.

Sure I know you, you are a fanboi that can’t come to grips with the fact that everyone may not like your preferred "game".

Don’t try to lie to me about who said what because there’s a record of it in this thread. I agree with Diablo that you are exactly like hardcase and zeroace and if folks cant see it your first few posts then they can certainly see it in your last few replies.

I don’t hate any of you, I just don’t care about your stupid game and when you throw out a pile **** about how great it is you will get called on it. When you come here with this fake hypocritical need to point out the problems with the guys on this board and then do so by calling them names, cursing and generally acting like a fool, I will rub your nose it.

If you don’t like it don’t come back, but don’t cry about how emotional and misunderstood you are. Grow the hell up. It’s just a game.

It’s clear you are cut from the same cloth, as hardcase and zeroace just like the rest of wwiiol types in this thread.

Now run back to your wwiiol cave (forum) and tell umm how bad you were treated. Maybe one of them will hold your hand and help you get through it.

Imsneaky I dont think anyone remembers you or cares one way or another. Play AH and have fun or dont. If you just wanted to get in the thread before it was locked there was no need for the wall text. Simply typing "in" would have done it.

AH2 has a ways to go yet . It will thrive or fail on its own merits just like wwiiol will. Theres no need for the fanbois to sell either one.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I didn't bother to read what you said LtReiben, but it sure looked nice. All broken up into mini-paragraphs and what appear to be sentences, but could possibly be drivel with punctuation.

In the end, the only thing that is true is that no one hurts "WWIIOl's image" but WWIIOl. The term "It sucks donkey balls" applies quite nicely to WWIIOl, but that only scratches the surface.
-SW

[Kieran]

Wow.

The WWIIOL armies have arrived. Undoubtedly to fill time while they wait around for something fun to happen in-game.

Seriously though... don't you guys understand? THIS is a competitor's BBS. It isn't filled with CRS hero-worshippers. Bad things about CRS will be said from time-to-time. You won't change the mind of most people here one way or another, and the more you try, the worse it gets. Let it go.

I swear, it's like Hercules cut off the head of the Hardcase Hydra and seven more sprouted up in its place...

Don't worry, Killer knows you guys are loyal. But FWIW, I just heard there was a guy on the Suzuki BBS badmouthing CRS's. Better hustle over there and tell them how they lost a potential customer. That'll set 'im straight.