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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BaldEagl on May 29, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
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It's time to begin our third year. Thanks to everyone who's participated in these events over the past two years. I hope you're all still having fun. I know I am.
Just to reiterate from the sign-up thread as we begin our third year of tournamanets I spent a couple of hours going through a rules re-write. Highlights of the changes include:
- Organized the rules under major headings to make understanding and interpretation easier.
- Changed the final round from best of five to best of seven.
- Added a rule that duels must be fought from the cockpit view.
- Clarified rules regarding dumping ammo.
- Simplified some rules regarding forfeitures and added a rule about advancing multiple times by forfeit.
- Added/clarified rules regarding film requirements in the later rounds.
- Shortened the timeframes for submissions and determinations in dispute resolution from 36 to 24 hours.
Don't let the rules intimidate you. It's all about fair play. Please read and understand the rules which are located in the next post.
It's nice to see some new names joining us this time around. Welcome to the tournament. At the same time there's names missing that I was hoping to see. The final roster is below sorted by in-game name which are also used in the bracket. Cross reference this list to get the person't BBs name so you can use PM to arrange your duels. Lepape, I've used you as the contact for Assi until he has a BBs account. Make sure I got your information correct and don't forget, if you change your in-game or BBs names suring the tournament you need to post here so we know who you are.
In-Game - BBs
Competitors
4Fox - Fox
AAJagerX - AAJagerX
Ace8 - STXAce8
akELFY - DOUG
AKZoney - Zoney
Amaazee - Amaazee
Assi - Lepape2
BaldEagl - BaldEagl - Administrator
batfinkv - mechanic
Bearkats - Husky01
Boo - mthrockmor
BrknArow - craze079
Bruv119 - Bruv119
Changeup - Changeup
Cursed - Qrsu
Devil5O5 - Devil 505
DMGOD - DMGOD
DrBone - DrBone1
Estes - Kjetil
Fryrtuck - ACE
gus - gusman
haxxor - dkff49 - Review Committee
INK - ink
IrishOne - IrishOne
JOACH1M - JOACH1M
JUGgler - JUGgler
Krupcake - Krupinski
Lepape2 - Lepape2
Loxy - Gemini
LTARkilz - kilz - Review Committee
Meatgazr - Hang82
MickyD - MickDono
NatCigg - NatCigg
nrshida - nrshida
pervert - pervert
PFactorD - PFactorDave
Rebel - GNucks
Rud3boi - HGTonyVi
SF - --)SF----
Shark60 - truss51
shiv - shiv
Simon - Simon
SirNuke - Noir
Slash27 - Slash27
Strokes - StokesAk
SunsFan - sunfan1121
TC - TequilaChaser - Review Committee
Tomcat21 - Tomcat21
TonyJoey - TonyJoey
Twizzty - Twizzty
tyrannis - Tyrannis
UrSelf - 68ZooM
Vinkman - Vinkman
waystin2 - waystin2
wrongway - AWwrgwy
Yarbles - Yarbles
Non-Competitors
Melvin - Melvin - Review Committee Alternate
As always, a special thanks to the review committee volunteers.
As to the bracket itself we were eight players short of filling it so that gave eight people byes in the fisrt round, one from each quarterfinal root. You have a week (until noon CDT next Sunday) to get your duels in and results posted. Remember the loser has to post results. You may also want to review the rules regarding posting deadlines to avoid a forfeit if you're having trouble getting your duels arranged.
Here's the first round match-ups:
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-1.jpg)
Good luck to all.
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TOURNAMENT RULES
· Setting up the Bracket
- Brackets will be determined by random draw of names produced by a random number generator in MS Excel.
- If the number of players exceeds a full round I will work them into the bracket although they will have to fly one more round than other players. They will be chosen randomly and disbursed evenly through pre-selected slots in the bracket to achieve balance at the nearest bracket root(s).
- If a player changes their in-game or BBs name during the tournament they must either post that change in the bracket and results thread or PM me with the change.
- The initial bracket will be posted on Sunday, May 29 and each Sunday thereafter until a winner has been determined.
· General Tournament Rules
- Duels must be arranged between the players by PM, IM, e-mail or other means to take place by noon CST/CDT Sunday following each bracket update (6 days).
- Duels will be best of three until the quarterfinal round. The quarterfinal and semifinal rounds will be best of five with the final round to determine a champion being best of seven.
- First duel plane selection will be assigned using a random number generator to select from all available fighter and fighter/attack aircraft (except the Me163 and Me262). This will be done individually for each set of duelers.
- During the elimination rounds the loser of each duel selects the aircraft for the next duel. This allows the loser to pick his/her best aircraft to get back into contention and if it goes three rounds each player will have had one plane selection. From the quarterfinals forward the player who is behind in the series chooses the next duel aircraft. This means they could choose as many as three times consecutively in the quarterfinal or semifinal rounds or four times consecutively in the final round to try to get back into contention (they lose the first and second duels then win the third making it 1-2 and get to choose for the third time for instance). If the series becomes tied at any point then the loser of the last duel chooses.
- All duels will take place in the DA canyon area.
- All duelists will fly in F1 view mode (in-cockpit).
- All duels will be 25% fuel load out with player’s choice of gun package and convergence. Firing off ammo prior to engagement is allowed (it’s impractical to review everyone’s films for violations in the early rounds).
- All merges will be guns cold (no firing until you have passed your opponent's 3/9 line).
- All merges will be co-alt at 10K until within icon range at which point a merge break can begin. In addition all players shall observe a 10K ceiling and floor (within reason) at all times prior to the merge.
- Anything goes after the initial merge.
- Once one player has been shot down and the other receives a kill message the duel ends. There is no need to land.
· Posting Results
- The losing player will post in this thread after the duel series in the following format:
Plane - Winner
Plane - Winner
Plane - Winner (if needed)
- The loser posting is a means to verify that the results are uncontested. If the loser hasn't posted by the deadline then the winner may post the results but they will be deemed contested and films will be required to verify the win.
- This information must be posted by no later than 12:00 noon CST/CDT (as appropriate) Sunday following the posting of the updated bracket so that I can get the brackets updated and re-posted on Sunday afternoon/evening.
· Special Circumstances Affecting the Outcome of a Duel
- In the case of a draw (both run out of fuel for instance) that duel will be re-fought using the same aircraft.
- In the case of a collision:
If only one player collides (only one gets the collision message) the duel continues.
If both players collide (both get the collision message) the duel immediately ends and will be re-started in the same planes.
- Ditching or bailing constitutes forfeiture of the duel.
- The intent is for players to remain in close proximity to one another (2-3K max). That said if at any time the players lose icon range on one another the duel ends immediately and will be re-started using the same planes. This should allow a dueler to simply turn away from a runner to nullify the duel.
- If an uninvited third party interrupts the duel the duel is immediately ended and will be re-started using the same plane. The dueling participants may move to another mutually agreed upon set of fields in the DA in this instance.
- If a player experiences technical and/or equipment issues the duel will continue. After the duel that player will be allowed fifteen minutes to correct such issues and re-log to complete any remaining duels in the series. If he does not or is unable to re-log within 15 minutes he will lose any remaining duels by default.
- If a player disco’s the duel will be re-fought in the same planes as soon as the discoing player re-logs. If he does not or is unable to re-log within 15 minutes he will lose the duel series by default. A second disco by the same player in a duel series will result in forfeiture of the remaining duels in that series.
· Forfeitures
- If a player does not show within 15 minutes of the arranged time they forfeit the series. In that case the winner by default must post a message confirming the arranged duel time or otherwise verify that a duel had been arranged.
- If a duel cannot be arranged between two players each player will have a chance to post the circumstances in the Bracket and Results thread prior to the posting deadline. If only one player posts and it is clear that they are making an attempt to arrange their duel then that player will advance, provided their post was at least 48 hours prior to the round closing deadline. If both players post and it is clear that the issue lies with only one player then the player not at fault will advance. If it is unclear which player is at fault, if neither player posts, or if a single player posts inside the 48 hour window then a random draw will determine which player advances. In the case of neither player posting, no player will be allowed to advance more than one round via forfeit.
· Filming
- Both players will film all duels from take-off in case of a dispute. These films must be saved until at least noon on the Tuesday following the duel or until 48 hours after the end of any granted extension in case of a dispute. If a dispute arises then the films must be saved until such dispute is settled.
- From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward. This also allows for film study by those hoping to improve their skills. Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
- Films may be posted in any round if both participants agree.
· Disputes
- Each player has the opportunity to review films of their duels for potential rules violations. If a player suspects a rules violation they can petition the review committee via PM. Both regular and alternate committee members, the tournament administrator and the opposing player must be copied on the petition (the review committee members, alternates and administrator are listed in the roster). This petition must be filed by the regular deadlines. The player must include a posting of their own films with the petition along with a description of what they believe the rules violation to be. An initial determination will be made within 24 hours of the petition. If the review committee finds sufficient evidence to further their investigation a committee spokesperson will contact the opposing player for their films of the duels. These films must be submitted within 24 hours of the committee's request or the duel(s) in question will be forfeit by that player. The review committee will then make a final determination no later than 24 hours after receiving those films. The review committee may overturn posted results. If a clean determination of a winner cannot be made the review committee will determine an appropriate course of action which could include a rematch, a random draw or the expulsion of one or both players from the tournament. These stated actions are not intended to limit the actions that the review committee might recommend. The review committee's determination will be final. In any case a final determination will be posted by no later than noon Wednesday. For the advancing player and their opponent the normal noon Sunday deadline will still apply. Because this could delay both the winner's and his/her next opponent's ability to arrange their next duel it is in the best interest of everyone that the players reach an agreeable conclusion to their duels on their own.
· Rules Violations
- Violations of the official tournament rules as stated could constitute grounds for expulsion from the tournament.
- Any player caught breaking the rules twice in any tournament will be automatically ejected from the tournament.
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PM sent Haxxor.
:salute
Way
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PM sent 4Fox :salute
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i'll get ahold of Changeup in game, just my freaking luck a squadie first round :rofl
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Amaazee, PM sent. :salute
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Whenever you are ready SF. :salute
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Pm sent Estes/kjetl
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Sending PM to Bearkats/Husky01
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BE is going to make it past the first round this time. I have faith in you BE i think you can beat that BYE chump lol Noir reply sent
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BE is going to make it past the first round this time. I have faith in you BE i think you can beat that BYE chump lol Noir reply sent
It's actually going to be my second time. The first was by forfeit. Take 'em how you can get 'em I guess but I'd really like to do it by winning instead. That said I had a really good time fighting Ink in one tourney then batfink in another. I like to think I'm getting closer to a win.
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practice makes perfect bro.
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It's actually going to be my second time. The first was by forfeit. Take 'em how you can get 'em I guess but I'd really like to do it by winning instead. That said I had a really good time fighting Ink in one tourney then batfink in another. I like to think I'm getting closer to a win.
you didn't have a good time fight me? :cry
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i'll get ahold of Changeup in game, just my freaking luck a squadie first round :rofl
No kidding....Orwellian Murphy's Law...."4 legs good, 2 legs baaaad" Pig on Pig baaaaad.
Changeup
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Either way it goes I am not getting out of the 2nd round. PM Received and Replied to. Time to hit up the MA.
May The Force be with you all.
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I'm in touch with Assi, no worries Lepape.
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It's actually going to be my second time. The first was by forfeit. Take 'em how you can get 'em I guess but I'd really like to do it by winning instead. That said I had a really good time fighting Ink in one tourney then batfink in another. I like to think I'm getting closer to a win.
those were some very good fights. :salute
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my apologies, this is my first bracket attending, and i notice i have a bye. so does that mean i PM the winner of the duel below me?
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my apologies, this is my first bracket attending, and i notice i have a bye. so does that mean i PM the winner of the duel below me?
Not until BE posts the next bracket.
This is the only way you will know which plane you will be using for your first fight.
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:salute Kjetil
Was fun fights! Epic typhoon fight!
http://www.mediafire.com/?dfov409xv64jgck
http://www.mediafire.com/?j553s4ud5t29j11
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MickDono, check your pm.
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if anyone talks to Noir please have him check his PMs on here thanks
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:salute Kjetil
Was fun fights! Epic typhoon fight!
http://www.mediafire.com/?dfov409xv64jgck
http://www.mediafire.com/?j553s4ud5t29j11
Can you post who won without me having to watch the films to figure it out? Thanks.
you didn't have a good time fight me? :cry
Oops. Yep, those were fun too.
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if anyone talks to Noir please have him check his PMs on here thanks
reply sent
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Can you post who won without me having to watch the films to figure it out? Thanks.
Oops. Yep, those were fun too.
Typhoon me, Spit5- me
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Meatgazr - Seafire
Meatgazr - F4U4
Clean and decisive. Nice job! <S>
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Round 1 vs INK:
P51 - INK
Spitfire 8 - INK
Thought I had a chance in the spitty, and I was right, "a" chance means it just took me longer to die. Great fun, thanks INK, <S>.
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Zoney- fun fights, great attitude,very Honorable.
I really thought you had me in the spit fight also, when I lost control, I was lucky that I got out of it at the right moment, and there you were, total luck on my part.
:salute
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Seafire IIc - Bearkats http://www.mediafire.com/?cn7a33y17dhzgg8
Fw 190D-9 - Bearkats http://www.mediafire.com/?2j6qptedo2d6o46
Shot me up pretty handedly both times, I think I could've won the first round if I could just freakin' snapshot worth a damn :bhead
Second one, I realized I messed up early. I'll get you next time!!!
:salute
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Good fights, I enjoyed it <S>
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SF :headscratch: :noid
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Typhoon me, Spit5- me
OK. We'll have to get estes to post results then or have the committee review the films.
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SF :headscratch: :noid
what?
Have I pscyched you out yet?
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what?
Have I pscyched you out yet?
hehe Just making sure you seen my message :salute :salute cya this weekend?
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Heya gusman ( gus ),
check ya PM's and lets get our match scheduled
TC
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OK. We'll have to get estes to post results then or have the committee review the films.
JOACH1M,
just PM estes and ask him to post the results here.... if you don't mind.... it would be much appreciated, Sir
TC
Note to all participants: and for everyone else, please remember that the losing player must post the results..... not the match winner
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mossie- suns
f4u-1 - elfy
190A5- suns
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hehe Just making sure you seen my message :salute :salute cya this weekend?
Rgr that Bone!
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Rgr that Bone!
Ro ro roger THAT!
Sorry I had to
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I didn't show up in the time allotted for yarbles' and I duel.
He wins.
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I didn't show up in the time allotted for yarbles' and I duel.
He wins.
yall still have till like 3 days to get it in can try another day
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If a player does not show within 15 minutes of the arranged time they forfeit the series. In that case the winner by default must post a message confirming the arranged duel time or otherwise verify that a duel had been arranged.
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yea we have untill sunday if i remember, me and change still have to duel to, will have it done before the deadline
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we had an arranged time, 4pm EST this evening. I missed it by a long shot.
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I didn't show up in the time allotted for yarbles' and I duel.
He wins.
you must read the rules again.........
If a player does not show within 15 minutes of the arranged time they forfeit the series. In that case the winner by default must post a message confirming the arranged duel time or otherwise verify that a duel had been arranged.
If Yarbles wants to take this forfeiture Win, then he must post... If he rather try and get the match in, then ya'll just need to work out another time to meet....... as someone else posted you still have 3 days til the deadline....
hope this helps
TC
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Oh really?
Ill have to shoot him a PM then.
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I will accept Strokes forfeit as he didn't show within the 15 minutes.
The duel was for Thursday at 9 UK time and strokes confirmed by pm he forgot and said he forfeited.
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I will accept Strokes forfeit as he didn't show within the 15 minutes.
The duel was for Thursday at 9 UK time and strokes confirmed by pm he forgot and said he forfeited.
seriously :headscratch:
that's not the way to win a match.
well I guess it is One way, but not an Honorable way that's for sure.
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Yarbles just fight, when I had to rematch krup and denied I never ears the end of it :rolleyes:
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seriously :headscratch:
that's not the way to win a match.
well I guess it is One way, but not an Honorable way that's for sure.
On second thoughts I am not biteing ;)
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Well I am sorry you dont approve but I would happily re schedule if someone asks before but just forgetting well I am not going to lose any sleep. Roll on round 2 :)
whatever makes you sleep better.
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Yarbles just fight, when I had to rematch krup and denied I never ears the end of it :rolleyes:
Jo don't get involved we have been down this road before ;)
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On second thoughts I am not biteing ;)
dude I am just saying the turney should be different then the MA lameness, most of the sticks in it all show Honor and should be treated with such.
life sometimes gets in the way of AH.
I came off harsh I guess, and I am sorry for that, I don't really know any thing else, but I am working on it.
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Somebody tell Amaazee to answer his damn PMs. :salute
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Amazee, please answer your dang PM's.
I am very helpful. :bolt:
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Yarbles is simply following the tournament rules,
Stokes sent him a pm saying he forfeited ( going by what has been posted, I have not seen any PM ).....
Yarbles said 9pm UK time ( 4 PM US EST time ) and Stokes posted after 6 PM US EST time......
even though Yarbles is still currently up at 1 AM UK Time .......
everyone has went by the rules set in place...... it is up to Yarbles if he desires to reschedule or not.......
but noone should flame him if he decides to accept Stoke's forfeiture for not being there on time.....
TC
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JUGgler, check your PMs bro. :salute
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Easy round win for FryrTuck. :salute
Ki61 - FryrTuck
Bf110c - FryrTuck
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Alright, first I will verify that Joachim won by my forfeiting. Having said that, who the hell made up the rules/guidelines for this thing? Last dueling bracket I did was when Exile made them, and they were much better. The fights took place wherever the two players wanted to fight (which most of the time was 23/24). It was deck merges, and there wasn't all this "Show up by X time, or you forfeit" crap. If someone couldn't show up, it was no big deal and it was just re-scheduled.
These canyon fights and 10k merges really ruin the point of dueling IMO. If you insist on keeping the 10k merges, (lame IMO as everyone just dives down before the merge to get speed anyway), why not use the 10k bases? That would save having to spend half the flight time to the other base climbing.
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Twizzty- Spit I
Twizzty- Ki-84 :bhead
:salute Fun fights afterwards too and nice to meet you.
And we both disliked the canyons for what it's worth.
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Alright, first I will verify that Joachim won by my forfeiting. Having said that, who the hell made up the rules/guidelines for this thing? Last dueling bracket I did was when Exile made them, and they were much better. The fights took place wherever the two players wanted to fight (which most of the time was 23/24). It was deck merges, and there wasn't all this "Show up by X time, or you forfeit" crap. If someone couldn't show up, it was no big deal and it was just re-scheduled.
These canyon fights and 10k merges really ruin the point of dueling IMO. If you insist on keeping the 10k merges, (lame IMO as everyone just dives down before the merge to get speed anyway), why not use the 10k bases? That would save having to spend half the flight time to the other base climbing.
I have to agree...
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please start another thread if anyone has something to discuss or debate or give an opinion on regarding BaldEagl's dueling tournament
This is the 7th running of this event, the rules have hardly changed since the 1st Dueling Tournament
who enters/signs up for a tournament and participates without reading the rules & procedures before hand???
this thread is only for posting results of matches and posting of the next bracket round after the previous round has been completed, it is not for clogging up with replys other than Results & New Bracket Round Charts
I am positive that BaldEagl would greatly appreciate this, so he does not have to wade through all the posts & replies that have nothing to do with the Thread Topic
Cheers
TC
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Alright, first I will verify that Joachim won by my forfeiting. Having said that, who the hell made up the rules/guidelines for this thing? Last dueling bracket I did was when Exile made them, and they were much better. The fights took place wherever the two players wanted to fight (which most of the time was 23/24). It was deck merges, and there wasn't all this "Show up by X time, or you forfeit" crap. If someone couldn't show up, it was no big deal and it was just re-scheduled.
These canyon fights and 10k merges really ruin the point of dueling IMO. If you insist on keeping the 10k merges, (lame IMO as everyone just dives down before the merge to get speed anyway), why not use the 10k bases? That would save having to spend half the flight time to the other base climbing.
:salute I agree with most
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Spit 16-Haxxor
C.202-Haxxor
Damn best fights that I have had in a long time! The Spit 16 round was awesome, but the C.202 was epic!!! Well flown Sir.
:salute
Way
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Twizzty- Spit I
Twizzty- Ki-84 :bhead
:salute Fun fights afterwards too and nice to meet you.
And we both disliked the canyons for what it's worth.
Very fun fights Slash, the last few were especially good. I still think the greatest part of these tournaments are the people you get to meet, <S> Slash sir I really enjoyed it.
Stay safe out there! :cheers:
Great afterfights also Ink, you really throw that KI-84 around like a pro! <S>
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Pursuant to this
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I have not heard from Amaazee since May 31st. I offered a couple of possible days and times and he has never responded. Twice I have told him that I wouldn't be able to schedule it on the weekend, no response. His one and only communication with me was:
I haven't flown in a bit, but I can do it whenever. It is summer so I can be on whenever...
I'm glad that he can do it "whenever", but I don't have a "whenever" on my clock or calendar. So, he really needs to answer his damn PMs and work with me to set a date and time. Tomorrow during the day is my last available time, and since I am not an out of school kid, I need a little warning to set aside a block of time when I won't be disturbed.
So, this is me posting more then 48 hours prior to the deadline that I have been attempting to schedule this thing, and in my opinion Amaazee has not made even the slightest effort.
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Spit 16-Haxxor
C.202-Haxxor
Damn best fights that I have had in a long time! The Spit 16 round was awesome, but the C.202 was epic!!! Well flown Sir.
:salute
Way
Hard fought wins on both fights waystin. They were simply the most challenging fights I have had in quite a while. Any time you want to go to DA you let me know. Nothing short of a class act.
:salute
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Pursuant to this
I have not heard from Amaazee since May 31st. I offered a couple of possible days and times and he has never responded. Twice I have told him that I wouldn't be able to schedule it on the weekend, no response. His one and only communication with me was:
I'm glad that he can do it "whenever", but I don't have a "whenever" on my clock or calendar. So, he really needs to answer his damn PMs and work with me to set a date and time. Tomorrow during the day is my last available time, and since I am not an out of school kid, I need a little warning to set aside a block of time when I won't be disturbed.
So, this is me posting more then 48 hours prior to the deadline that I have been attempting to schedule this thing, and in my opinion Amaazee has not made even the slightest effort.
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you should send your PMs to the review committee and BE
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Pfactor I'll send him a notice on Facebook...if it comes to it I'll text him
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you should send your PMs to the review committee and BE
I will if I have to. I'm still hoping Amaazee will PM me back tonight that he can meet up tomorrow at 2pm CST. I was only following the rules by posting in here.
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Pfactor I'll send him a notice on Facebook...if it comes to it I'll text him
Tell him to hurry. I have to do the duel tomorrow late morning or early afternoon. I will be working out of town Saturday.
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Tell him to hurry. I have to do the duel tomorrow late morning or early afternoon. I will be working out of town Saturday.
Ok
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Tell him to hurry. I have to do the duel tomorrow late morning or early afternoon. I will be working out of town Saturday.
Ok, he is on vacation...no Internet so... I don't know wha to say :bolt:
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Very fun fights Slash, the last few were especially good. I still think the greatest part of these tournaments are the people you get to meet, <S> Slash sir I really enjoyed it.
Stay safe out there! :cheers:
Great afterfights also Ink, you really throw that KI-84 around like a pro! <S>
absolutely, great fights :salute
and you aint too damn shabby yourself, some very good flying :joystick:
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Ok, he is on vacation...no Internet so... I don't know wha to say :bolt:
Thanks for letting me know Joach1m. I guess I won't worry about it then.
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Alright, first I will verify that Joachim won by my forfeiting. Having said that, who the hell made up the rules/guidelines for this thing? Last dueling bracket I did was when Exile made them, and they were much better. The fights took place wherever the two players wanted to fight (which most of the time was 23/24). It was deck merges, and there wasn't all this "Show up by X time, or you forfeit" crap. If someone couldn't show up, it was no big deal and it was just re-scheduled.
These canyon fights and 10k merges really ruin the point of dueling IMO. If you insist on keeping the 10k merges, (lame IMO as everyone just dives down before the merge to get speed anyway), why not use the 10k bases? That would save having to spend half the flight time to the other base climbing.
The rules have evolved over time as people, unfortunately, took advantage of any gap in the rules to get ahead. Frankly if we had only the most basic rules I'd be a lot happier but then I, or the committee, would be called on the carpet for playing favorites so they've evolved to create as many balck and white situations as possible.
The canyons were chosen for two primary reasons; they are the easiest place to find in the DA for those unfamiliar and they have the most fields available. As a secondary consideration they add another element to the duel and for those that don't want that there is flat terrain on both sides of the canyon. Merge alt was somewhat arbitrary but was chosen to allow an initial downhill fight. Flight time to merge is generally about 3 - 3 1/2 minutes.
I'm not opposed to moving the duels to other fields or altering merge alts but several elements of the tournament are meant to allow lesser skilled pilots to participate and stand a chance and I wouldn't want to lose that as we'd lower the appeal to newer players.
On a side note I've been considering when the right time will be to do an invitational only tournament invlolving only those who have made the final rounds and at that time I suspect many of the rules will change considerably regarding many of these issues.
I hope that answers your questions.
On the Yarbles/StokesAk issue it's really up to Yarbles at this point if he wants to try to rearrange the duel or take the forfeit. The duel was scheduled and StokesAk didn't show up. Some people only have limited availability to play the game. I happen to be among them. In my case being gone for 13-14 hours per day for work would make rescheduling difficult.
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The 10k canyon makes no sense to me either. Why let the environment be a factor in a skills competition? If you want new players to stand a chance make a ranking system and put them against other noobs.
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Just my opinion here.
The canyons test your skill as much as your opponent. If you don't know where the ground is below or around you then I would say that is a good test. I have lost and won fights because my opponent used the terrain to his advantage and I pushed it too far. To me this is no different that pushing your stall too far and having it cost you the fight.
BE I say leave it as is. Some of the best fights that I have had were in this tourney and were a direct result of the canyon rule. :rock
:salute
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The 10k canyon makes no sense to me either. Why let the environment be a factor in a skills competition? If you want new players to stand a chance make a ranking system and put them against other noobs.
A second (losers') bracket that includes only the losers of the first elimination round?
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I like youtube videos of AH maybe this could be their.
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A second (losers') bracket that includes only the losers of the first elimination round?
That would work also.
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I like youtube videos of AH maybe this could be their.
:headscratch:
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please start another thread if anyone has something to discuss or debate or give an opinion on regarding BaldEagl's dueling tournament
This is the 7th running of this event, the rules have hardly changed since the 1st Dueling Tournament
who enters/signs up for a tournament and participates without reading the rules & procedures before hand???
this thread is only for posting results of matches and posting of the next bracket round after the previous round has been completed, it is not for clogging up with replys other than Results & New Bracket Round Charts
I am positive that BaldEagl would greatly appreciate this, so he does not have to wade through all the posts & replies that have nothing to do with the Thread Topic
Cheers
TC
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When people sign up they accept the rules and the decision of the judges. If they are not happy with any of that the time to bring it up is before the event. It is also worth saying that I don't think anyone gets paid to do this and first and foremost people should be gratefull that people put time asside to organise this so we can participate in it rather than just being negative about some aspect or other they don't like. Also remember the event is staged for everyone and is not the property of any one competitor.
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Just my opinion here.
The canyons test your skill as much as your opponent. If you don't know where the ground is below or around you then I would say that is a good test. I have lost and won fights because my opponent used the terrain to his advantage and I pushed it too far. To me this is no different that pushing your stall too far and having it cost you the fight.
BE I say leave it as is. Some of the best fights that I have had were in this tourney and were a direct result of the canyon rule. :rock
:salute
I have to admit I also like the canyons it just adds a new element to the fight, and makes you sharpen up your SA. gotta pay attention.
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I like youtube videos of AH maybe this could be their.
:huh
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I have to admit I also like the canyons it just adds a new element to the fight, and makes you sharpen up your SA. gotta pay attention.
I am in wholehearted agreemant with Ink & Haxxor here. The canyons add a depth to the fight that you can't get from flat terrain. :aok
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Good Morning gus (gusman ),
Please Check or Message Inbox, I am running a wee bit late this mornin.......
<S>
TC
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Good Morning gus (gusman ),
Please Check or Message Inbox, I am running a wee bit late this mornin.......
<S>
TC
Thanks gus......... time is confirmed
<S>
TC
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:huh
:headscratch:
Ask INK.
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truss51 chk PMs plz.
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Ask INK.
You want Ink to make a youtube vid of the dueling bracket?
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Yarbles is simply following the tournament rules,
Stokes sent him a pm saying he forfeited ( going by what has been posted, I have not seen any PM ).....
Yarbles said 9pm UK time ( 4 PM US EST time ) and Stokes posted after 6 PM US EST time......
even though Yarbles is still currently up at 1 AM UK Time .......
everyone has went by the rules set in place...... it is up to Yarbles if he desires to reschedule or not.......
but noone should flame him if he decides to accept Stoke's forfeiture for not being there on time.....
TC
Why can he CHOOSE to take a forfiet. You either forfeit or you fight. If he has a choice, then folks can chide and shame him for his choice. That's price he pays for making that choice. He can avoid the shame by stating a honorable reason for not fighting, like this was his only available time slot for the rest of the week. But to say I'm taking the win because it's easy, should draw the shame of the community, and I won't be discouraged from shaming him because you say he's allowed to take a forfeit.
Now I'm NOT shaming him, because he hasn't stated a reason. Maybe he has a good one. Maybe he'll tell us. :salute
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You want Ink to make a youtube vid of the dueling bracket?
Nvm...
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Why can he CHOOSE to take a forfeit. You either forfeit or you fight. If he has a choice, then folks can chide and shame him for his choice. That's price he pays for making that choice. He can avoid the shame by stating a honorable reason for not fighting, like this was his only available time slot for the rest of the week. But to say I'm taking the win because it's easy, should draw the shame of the community, and I won't be discouraged from shaming him because you say he's allowed to take a forfeit.
Now I'm NOT shaming him, because he hasn't stated a reason. Maybe he has a good one. Maybe he'll tell us. :salute
Why bring it here? why not ask the Administrator your concerns or questions privately...... This has all been handled off of this open forum via thru the Administrator and the Review Committee
BaldEagl answered your question for you with his Reply ( Reply # 75 )
point blank: StokesAK forfeited the match and confirmed it by being 2 hours late
point blank: Yarbles & StokesAK made an arrangement/scheduled time to meet, both agreed apon the time, all Rules have been followed as written by BaldEagl
I have not seen Yarbles claim anything like you have typed in the quote below:
But to say I'm taking the win because it's easy, should draw the shame of the community, and I won't be discouraged from shaming him because you say he's allowed to take a forfeit.
Yarbles did not forfeit, StokesAK did, by the way..........
As BaldEagl posted, some people have Real Life to deal with and when a scheduled time is set, they seriously rely on these schedulings and take the time to set an allotted amount of time aside for the event they have enrolled in........ when another comes and says something and that they are at fault......... then No Sir...... there is no reason to be derogatory toward the person who tried to do everything as was previously planned.........
why some wants to troll, or flame or get a rise out of another is beyond me..........
I simply ask that we all be a bit more respectful of everyone in the tournament, and not turn BaldEagl's tournament into an insult tossing, flame throwing, troll hunting, witch burning pile of burning cow manure
Why can he CHOOSE to take a forfeit. You either forfeit or you fight.
Once Again, Yarbles did not CHOOSE anything........ the Tournament Rules "Granted" Yarbles a win by forfeiture, because his opponent who agreed to a time, did not show up within the 15 minutes allotted........ he was actually over 2 hours late and did not contact anyone before hand / before the scheduled meet time............. He simply forgot or something to that effect.........
I hope this is done with now........ I hope people get to dog fighting / dueling these cartoon planes more and relax on the possibility of trying to shame someone for no apparent reason
:cheers:
TC
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As BaldEagl posted, some people have Real Life to deal with and when a scheduled time is set, they seriously rely on these schedulings and take the time to set an allotted amount of time aside for the event they have enrolled in........
I'd like to +1000 this. Between my business, my wife, my kids, and the thousand things they all demand from me, it can be a serious logistical operation to get an hour or two of undisturbed Aces High time. If I were just flying in the MA, no big deal, if the phone rings I just hit auto pilot until I am done on the phone or have been killed or whatever. No big deal. But for a duel in a tournament, I have to block out the time and make arrangements.
Not everyone around here has this issue, but as a matter of simple respect, everyone should assume that their opponent does. Your opponent's time is valuable, and in some cases prescious. Try not to waste mine and I'll do the best I can not to waste yours.
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I'd like to +1000 this. Between my business, my wife, my kids, and the thousand things they all demand from me, it can be a serious logistical operation to get an hour or two of undisturbed Aces High time. If I were just flying in the MA, no big deal, if the phone rings I just hit auto pilot until I am done on the phone or have been killed or whatever. No big deal. But for a duel in a tournament, I have to block out the time and make arrangements.
Not everyone around here has this issue, but as a matter of simple respect, everyone should assume that their opponent does. Your opponent's time is valuable, and in some cases prescious. Try not to waste mine and I'll do the best I can not to waste yours.
+1 on this and well said Dave. You have described my own hectic schedule and the way I approach AH and events such as the dueling bracket. It's all about respect...
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Why bring it here?
I hope this is done with now........ I hope people get to dog fighting / dueling these cartoon planes more and relax on the possibility of trying to shame someone for no apparent reason
PM sent :salute
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I have to admit I also like the canyons it just adds a new element to the fight, and makes you sharpen up your SA. gotta pay attention.
Ditto
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Now I'm NOT shaming him, because he hasn't stated a reason. Maybe he has a good one. Maybe he'll tell us. :salute
I have reasons Vinkman why I wanted to do this on Thursday and not let it run into the weekend now let me just expalain my perspective on this.
In my version of the adult world when people make an arrangement they both rely on and can presumably organise their lives around that has some weight. If someone then turns up 2 hours late and their excuse is "I forgot" I dont see why the person who turned up in good faith on time should somehow be put in the wrong. Certainly Strokes got it with "I emmediatley forfeit". However this somehow does not serve honour in the all important cartoon aeroplane world. In the totally unimportant real world though its spot on.
I am a family man with a business and responsibilites who shouldn't be obliged to account to you for their time. I realise allot of kids play this game but how about we apply the adult I am responsile for my own actions standard to this not the I am a kid and therefore everyone has to be endlesly patient with me approach. Strokes behaved like a kid but took responsibility for his actions like an adult.
If Stokes had come back with a reasonable excuse or contacted me in advance I would have put myself out but not for "I forgot". If I conducted my life like that I would be living in a cardboard box. I hope you have leared something from this. If I was in charge I would give you a warning for holding the rules in contempt the 15 minute rule is to stop people messing other people about and maybe this will set the tone for behaviour now to stop people wasting other peoples time.
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gents enough is enough on this thread if you want to take it further start a new on or PM each other
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I have reasons Vinkman why I wanted to do this on Thursday and not let it run into the weekend now let me just expalain my perspective on this.
In my version of the adult world when people make an arrangement they both rely on and can presumably organise their lives around that has some weight. If someone then turns up 2 hours late and their excuse is "I forgot" I dont see why the person who turned up in good faith on time should somehow be put in the wrong. Certainly Strokes got it with "I emmediatley forfeit". However this somehow does not serve honour in the all important cartoon aeroplane world. In the totally unimportant real world though its spot on.
I am a family man with a business and responsibilites who shouldn't be obliged to account to you for their time. I realise allot of kids play this game but how about we apply the adult I am responsile for my own actions standard to this not the I am a kid and therefore everyone has to be endlesly patient with me approach. Strokes behaved like a kid but took responsibility for his actions like an adult.
If Stokes had come back with a reasonable excuse or contacted me in advance I would have put myself out but not for "I forgot". If I conducted my life like that I would be living in a cardboard box. I hope you have leared something from this. If I was in charge I would give you a warning for holding the rules in contempt the 15 minute rule is to stop people messing other people about and maybe this will set the tone for behaviour now to stop people wasting other peoples time.
Amen. :aok
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I'm going to have to forfeit my match with Natcigg arranged a time but now cannot be sure I'll make it, I play when I have a free hour or 2 but honestly I never really know when that is anymore so things could drag on every match will be like this for me and don't want to have other people have the hassle of waiting around for me sorry. :salute
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:salute
P38J
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:salute
P38J - TC
Yak9T- TC
Thanks TC it was fun
Cheers
gus
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I have reasons Vinkman why I wanted to do this on Thursday and not let it run into the weekend now let me just expalain my perspective on this.
In my version of the adult world when people make an arrangement they both rely on and can presumably organise their lives around that has some weight. If someone then turns up 2 hours late and their excuse is "I forgot" I dont see why the person who turned up in good faith on time should somehow be put in the wrong. Certainly Strokes got it with "I emmediatley forfeit". However this somehow does not serve honour in the all important cartoon aeroplane world. In the totally unimportant real world though its spot on.
I am a family man with a business and responsibilites who shouldn't be obliged to account to you for their time. I realise allot of kids play this game but how about we apply the adult I am responsile for my own actions standard to this not the I am a kid and therefore everyone has to be endlesly patient with me approach. Strokes behaved like a kid but took responsibility for his actions like an adult.
If Stokes had come back with a reasonable excuse or contacted me in advance I would have put myself out but not for "I forgot". If I conducted my life like that I would be living in a cardboard box. I hope you have leared something from this. If I was in charge I would give you a warning for holding the rules in contempt the 15 minute rule is to stop people messing other people about and maybe this will set the tone for behaviour now to stop people wasting other peoples time.
PM sent
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Easy round win for FryrTuck. :salute
Ki61 - FryrTuck
Bf110c - FryrTuck
<<S>> bud Very fun!
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:salute
P38J - TC
Yak9T- TC
Thanks TC it was fun
Cheers
gus
Yes Sir, gus, some fun fights :salute
catch ya up in FSO or the MA's
:cheers:
TC
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:watchfuleye
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P47N - Assi
F4U-1 - shiv
109E4 - Assi
Fun fights <<S>> Assi.
And <<S>> BE for running this mess, lot of fun.
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N1k2 - Krup
bf-109K4 - Krup
Krup wooped me pretty easily, and he was rusty at that. :salute
Was fun Krup and thanks for the fights afterward. Good time :aok
Good luck moving on.
Thanks B.E for putting up with all of the crap. :salute
Vinkman
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N1k2 - Krup
bf-109K4 - Krup
Krup wooped me pretty easily, and he was rusty at that. :salute
Was fun Krup and thanks for the fights afterward. Good time :aok
Good luck moving on.
Thanks B.E for putting up with all of the crap. :salute
Vinkman
:(
Wtg krup, unlucky vinkman
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N1k2 - Krup
bf-109K4 - Krup
Krup wooped me pretty easily, and he was rusty at that. :salute
Was fun Krup and thanks for the fights afterward. Good time :aok
Tough draw in the first round Vink... I'd like to see a losers bracket in the future, so us sucky pilots can get at least two rounds of duels.
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Tough draw in the first round Vink... I'd like to see a losers bracket in the future, so us sucky pilots can get at least two rounds of duels.
I second this. I'd like more fights for everyone! :aok
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Or a 2v2 tourney...
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Or a 2v2 tourney...
That would be fun too, but I would hate to task Bald with that... Tolerating all these prima donnas in his 1vs1 tourney is more then enough for any one man. :salute
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That would be fun too, but I would hate to task Bald with that... Tolerating all these prima donnas in his 1vs1 tourney is more then enough for any one man. :salute
Yes very true
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Yes very true
Of course, I doubt you'd find the prima donnas in the first round losers bracket... So, Bald should think about it seriously for his tourney... :D
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N1k2 - Krup
bf-109K4 - Krup
Krup wooped me pretty easily, and he was rusty at that. :salute
Was fun Krup and thanks for the fights afterward. Good time :aok
Good luck moving on.
Thanks B.E for putting up with all of the crap. :salute
Vinkman
GF's during and after, bro. Saluté :salute
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i sent a PM to Changeup , i know he's been busy so i wait for his responce.
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i sent a PM to Changeup , i know he's been busy so i wait for his responce.
Tell him I said what's up.
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will do krup, hope things are going good for ya :aok
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Round 1; 190F-8 Winner Brknarow- Goes to show I can never fly any 190 with a radial engine.
Round 2: 109G-14 winner brknarow- Nice move there brkn, though u were gonna either, run, (like everyone in the MA) rope me, or turn. Not hit the brakes lol.
Eh, always next year for me.
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WTG Brknarow! :aok
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Round 1; 190F-8 Winner Brknarow- Goes to show I can never fly any 190 with a radial engine.
Round 2: 109G-14 winner brknarow- Nice move there brkn, though u were gonna either, run, (like everyone in the MA) rope me, or turn. Not hit the brakes lol.
Eh, always next year for me.
I would hope nobody would run in a 1v1....
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P51D - SirNuke
A6M5b - LTARkilz
Yak9u - LTARkilz
no excuse there, great flying mate :salute
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P51D - SirNuke
A6M5b - LTARkilz
Yak9u - LTARkilz
no excuse there, great flying mate :salute
congrats kilz...unlucky nuke :(
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Round 1; 190F-8 Winner Brknarow- Goes to show I can never fly any 190 with a radial engine.
Round 2: 109G-14 winner brknarow- Nice move there brkn, though u were gonna either, run, (like everyone in the MA) rope me, or turn. Not hit the brakes lol.
Eh, always next year for me.
All the cool people are losing in the first round this time :noid
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:salute SirNuke
was not much to the pony fight you were awesome in it
A6M could have gone in your fav quick was a great fight
the Yak was pure luck i dont fly yaks. it was an epic fight
SirNuke is a class act is why i always love dueling you Salute bud maybe some day i will keep my E in the pony lol
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Nice win Kilz :salute
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F4F-4 - Cursed
Spit V - Cursed
:salute very nice flying, good luck with the Bracket & nice to meet you sir.
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F4F-4 - Cursed
Spit V - Cursed
:salute very nice flying, good luck with the Bracket & nice to meet you sir.
Congrats cursed :)
unlucky shida :(
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Nice win Kilz :salute
thank you
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F4F-4 - Cursed
Spit V - Cursed
:salute very nice flying, good luck with the Bracket & nice to meet you sir.
Great fights sir, I got very lucky today. I appreciate the bonus rounds afterward and look forward to duelling you again in the near future. :)
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now all i gotta do is beg BE to go easy on me
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We're approaching 24 hours to go until the end of the first round and the following eight duels remain unfought:
SF
Fw 190F-8
DrBone
IrishOne
P-38G
Shark60
MickyD
Bf 109F-4
4Fox
Rud3boi
Spit Mk IX
TonyJoey
JUGgler
Yak-9T
AAJagerX
PFactorD
C.202
Amaazee
UrSelf
P-40E
Changeup
Bruv119
P-40B
DMGOD
Let's get going. IIRC it looed like the Rud3boi/ToneyJoey match might require an extension. I'll sort that out tomorrow. I've also left Yarbles/Strokes and pervert/NatCigg off the list due to forfeits although if they wanted they still have the time to get the fights in.
I'm going to have to forfeit my match with Natcigg arranged a time but now cannot be sure I'll make it, I play when I have a free hour or 2 but honestly I never really know when that is anymore so things could drag on every match will be like this for me and don't want to have other people have the hassle of waiting around for me sorry. :salute
pervert, most people are accomodating of scheduling difficulties and if it comes down to it in the end you can graciously forfeit when it becomes a problem. My own schedule is much like yours. You still have time to stay in if you can work out time to duel before noon tomorrow.
Eh, always next year for me.
Or fall when the next tournament starts (late Sept with sign-up's in mid Sept).
now all i gotta do is beg BE to go easy on me
Heh, I was going to ask YOU to go easy on ME. Well, not really, I'd rather give it my best and lose than have an oppenent fall over.
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I would hope nobody would run in a 1v1....
Let's be careful where we go here Joachim. The loser posted in a not too cheery manner, but there is no need to fan any flames up.
:salute
Way
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Me and SF are fighting tonight before Rangoon i do believe. :salute
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I've talked to Changeup Via Pm's were doing ours sunday night around 8-9 pm PST, he's at a baseball tourney and should be home before our duel. i will not take a Forfeit if he doesn't make it, that's no way to play IMO
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Me and SF are fighting tonight before Rangoon i do believe. :salute
what is a Rangoon?
sorry for the off topic
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what is a Rangoon?
sorry for the off topic
Scenario reenacting ww2 battle
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what is a Rangoon?
sorry for the off topic
Kiltz road to rangoon is a Scenerio and if you want theres always room for walk-ons Arena should be open before or around 11am PST 2pm EST and the event locks at 12 PST-3pm EST and starts shortly after, come join the fun as well as other guys wanting more than the MA experence, it's fun and structured and a goodtime :aok
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109F - MickyD
Spit 16 - MickyD
Nice flying. Good luck in the rest of the tournament. Good to meet ya. <S>
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will do krup, hope things are going good for ya :aok
Besides the elevated MA dweebery.. things are good for me, man, how about you?
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P38G - IrishOne
F4U-1A - IrishOne
Good fights.
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P38G - IrishOne
F4U-1A - IrishOne
Good fights.
:salute
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Maybe tomorrow SF? :salute
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:salute 4Fox. Hopefully will get to do some more duelling in the future!
Very nice fights!!
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Maybe tomorrow SF? :salute
Before 1pm mst. I have to work at 2:30 mst.
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Before 1pm mst. I have to work at 2:30 mst.
cya soon :salute
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Some days ya got it, some days ya don't...
Yak9T- JUGgler
P38J- JUGgler
Nice flyin bro! At least I got a little bit of revenge in the post-duel round. Best of luck in the rest of the tourney.
:salute
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Round 1; 190F-8 Winner Brknarow- Goes to show I can never fly any 190 with a radial engine.
Round 2: 109G-14 winner brknarow- Nice move there brkn, though u were gonna either, run, (like everyone in the MA) rope me, or turn. Not hit the brakes lol.
Eh, always next year for me.
<S> Ace8, good fights! And TY, you pinged me before my reversal, thank goodness it wasn't a 30!
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Ace8 nooooooooooooo.
My bookie will be knocking at the door now..
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Here's a shocker
p40-b Bruv119
109-e Bruv119
<S> Sir. You are an amazing stick. Thank you for spending the time with me afterwards trying to teach me some things.
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good fights DMGOD,
thanks for playing. :salute
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Something has come up SF wont be able to make it.I forfeit to SF :salute :salute
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Something has come up SF wont be able to make it.I forfeit to SF :salute :salute
Would it make a difference if you had an extension until Tuesday?
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Would it make a difference if you had an extension until Tuesday?
That would be greatly appreciated BE :salute :salute
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Still waiting to hear from Changeup hes at a baseball tourney, were shooting for this evening
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Sorry for the delay gentlemen.
Four or five people approached me after the initial bracket was posted wanting to join. I denied them for the following reasons: Several tournaments ago when I was allowing late entries one of them got matched against someone who was scheduled for a bye. That person never checked into the bracket thread again or at least claimed they didn't. The duel never happened and it became a problem for me. Furthermore, late entry players can wait until the bracket is posted to see who their potential match-ups would be (anyone with a first round bye) which creates a minor form of player manipulation of the bracket, something I've taken great pains to avoid. The next tournament sign-up begins in mid-September and I hope we'll see you then.
We had two forfeits in this first round; Strokes missed his match and forfeit to Yarbles and pervert forfeited to NatCigg.
We had four other duels that didn't happen. They were:
SF
Fw 190F-8
DrBone
Rud3boi
Spit Mk IX
TonyJoey
PFactorD
C.202
Amaazee
UrSelf
P-40E
Changeup
I'm going to grant each of these a 48 hour extension until noon Tuesday however you really have until about 9:30-10:30 PM when I get home from work. While neither Rud3boi or TonyJoey posted in this thread I got a PM from TonyJoey who was going to be gone. I know PFactorDave posted and PM'd me numerous times but I saw something mentioned regarding Amazee being on vacation. Since we have two holidays that interrupt this tournament (Memorial Day and Independence Day) and the fact that people schedule summer vacations I'm going to allow a chance for this duel to happen. I mentioned in the sign-up thread that I'd be somewhat lenient with vacation schedules for this tournament. As always this will not delay the next round matches. I'll post match-ups and next round plane assignments as results come in and update the bracket to reflect results, match-ups and assignments next weekend.
Other than that it was and is business as usual.
Here's the next round:
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-2.jpg)
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Great fights sir, I got very lucky today. I appreciate the bonus rounds afterward and look forward to duelling you again in the near future. :)
Nice Job Cursed. NRshida's done very well in this tourney in the past. You screwed up my bracket picks, but glad you won! :aok good luck in the next round.
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PM sent kilz
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Here's a shocker
p40-b Bruv119
109-e Bruv119
<S> Sir. You are an amazing stick. Thank you for spending the time with me afterwards trying to teach me some things.
:rofl DMGOD, you make the game a blast bro.
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Some days ya got it, some days ya don't...
Yak9T- JUGgler
P38J- JUGgler
Nice flyin bro! At least I got a little bit of revenge in the post-duel round. Best of luck in the rest of the tourney.
:salute
Would love to see the films of this one. Tough loss Jager. :salute
Good to see you in this think JUGgler, good win. Tough draw next roung though ;)
J
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PM sent Yarbles
why couldn't we get the birdcage hog, dangit????
TC
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I'll just find natcip ingame lol
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PM sent bear :salute
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PM sent kilz
replied
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PM me a good time cursed.
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<S> Ace8, good fights! And TY, you pinged me before my reversal, thank goodness it wasn't a 30!
I'm still kicking myself i didnt react better, it was lat, hadnt eaten dinner, but none the lees good fights ~S~.
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PM sent Twizzty
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Would love to see the films of this one. Tough loss Jager. :salute
Good to see you in this think JUGgler, good win. Tough draw next roung though ;)
J
I really flew the duel rounds rather badly. I've been in a bit of a slump as of late. Jug flew smart and his gunnery was spot on. The films are short and brutal.
:salute
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Reply sent haxxor, will see you on Thursday sir! :salute
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I really flew the duel rounds rather badly. I've been in a bit of a slump as of late. Jug flew smart and his gunnery was spot on. The films are short and brutal.
:salute
JuG is A very hard fight...being in a slump...definitely don't help.
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Still waiting to hear from Changeup hes at a baseball tourney, were shooting for this evening
BE and Urself,
I'm sorry for the delay. We just got back from Austin from a baseball tourney for my son and honestly I didn't think they'd do as well as they did (or we would have been home around 8pm). Anyway, Urself and I will be able to get it in tomorrow.
Changeup
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P38-BAT
KI84-INK
KI84-BAT
awesome.... awesome.... awesome.... fights :salute
great fights afterwards, this is one man who knows how to dance :salute
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Could have gone either way Ink, it takes one to know one. The adrenalin was pumping more each fight especially repeating the ki84 as a plane choice.
P38l (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/INK_38.ahf)
Ki84 I (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/ink_KI.ahf)
ki84 II (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/Ink_KI2.ahf)
Thanks for the fights and the excellent company.
S!
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Brknarw, PM sent. Looking forward to it.
Boo
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Brknarw, PM sent. Looking forward to it.
Boo
Replied, should be interesting - Zeke & Pony!
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BE and Urself,
I'm sorry for the delay. We just got back from Austin from a baseball tourney for my son and honestly I didn't think they'd do as well as they did (or we would have been home around 8pm). Anyway, Urself and I will be able to get it in tomorrow.
Changeup
Roget that change see ya tomarrow nite
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Sorry, I wasn't able to do it. I went on vacation without notice.
Oh well, looks like my plan to win is over. :bolt:
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awesome.... awesome.... awesome.... fights :salute
great fights afterwards, this is one man who knows how to dance :salute
Could have gone either way Ink, it takes one to know one. The adrenalin was pumping more each fight especially repeating the ki84 as a plane choice.
Thanks for the fights and the excellent company.
S!
Look at theese guys... this makes me wanna fly again :salute
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Sorry, I wasn't able to do it. I went on vacation without notice.
Oh well, looks like my plan to win is over. :bolt:
i believe you were given an extension of 48 hours
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Could have gone either way Ink, it takes one to know one. The adrenalin was pumping more each fight especially repeating the ki84 as a plane choice.
P38l (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/INK_38.ahf)
Ki84 I (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/ink_KI.ahf)
ki84 II (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/Ink_KI2.ahf)
Thanks for the fights and the excellent company.
S!
Ty...and :salute
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Look at theese guys... this makes me wanna fly again :salute
You quit?
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Bone,
Won't be on till 2pm mst today. Cya than :salute
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Bone,
Won't be on till 2pm mst today. Cya than :salute
SF i tried to make it work bud.I gotta go out of town for a big family reunion.Just to avoid any confusion or problems SF wins.GL All :salute :salute we can do some fights when i get back SF :salute
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SF i tried to make it work bud.I gotta go out of town for a big family reunion.Just to avoid any confusion or problems SF wins.GL All :salute :salute we can do some fights when i get back SF :salute
But that will screw up my bracket picks!! oh well :D
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P40 E- Changeup real close fight on this all the way down to the deck, till i kissed mother earth
A6M5- Changeup i lost vis on him and that's all it takes in quick turning Zeke's
Great Fights Changeup fun to fly with as always :salute good luck on the next Round :cheers:
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P40 E- Changeup real close fight on this all the way down to the deck, till i kissed mother earth
A6M5- Changeup i lost vis on him and that's all it takes in quick turning Zeke's
Great Fights Changeup fun to fly with as always :salute good luck on the next Round :cheers:
Great fights bro...it sux drawing a squadmate in this thing but I enjoyed the fights and the P40 fight was who hit the ground first! Nice job! :salute
Changeup
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UPDATE
Here's two matchups. The deadline is Sunday as always:
SF
Seafire Mk II
IrishOne
Changeup
F4U-1
SunsFan
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Oh perfect...that plane exposes my suckage even more than the other 114 planes.
Changeup
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Natcigg ill be on in 3 hours-till 11 o clock
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Natcigg ill be on in 3 hours-till 11 o clock
Let's see 3 hours from post is 2pm.
2pm to 11pm is.......
9 hours!! :O
Holy smokes you really do love this game.
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Let's see 3 hours from post is 2pm.
2pm to 11pm is.......
9 hours!! :O
Holy smokes you really do love this game.
No work today :rock and it's Tuesday...really nothing going on
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No work today :rock and it's Tuesday...really nothing going on
I havent had a nothin-goin-on day since 1993. Must be nice to be young.
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P-38J - JOACH1M
N1K2-J - JOACH1M
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P-38J - JOACH1M
N1K2-J - JOACH1M
Were fun fights! :salute
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can someone tell bear to check his PM's?
thankyou :salute
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My new game ID is theHIV
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My new game ID is theHIV
:rofl :aok
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FryrTuck vs Cursed
Yak9U - FryrTuck
F6F-5 - FryrTuck
Nice fights sir - definitely out of my league. Wish you the best of luck in the next round(s). :)
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:salute :salute
Very good fights before and after.
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UPDATE
So, here's where we are in regards to the last duels to be schduled for this week:
TonyJoey PM'd me on a PM sent to Rud3boi that he was going to be out of town. Rud3boi never posted anything here nor PM'd. This is consistant with his participation in these tournaments in the past, therefor I have no choice but to advance TonyJoey by forfeit. The next match-up is:
Tomcat21
Yak-9T
TonyJoey
PFactorD either posted here or PM'd me (or both) nearly every, if not every day, for the past week and a half while Amaazee disappeared on vacation. On his return he pretty much forfeited even though he had an extension so Amaazee forfeits and PFactorDave advances. Here's the next match-up:
Loxy
Typh Mk I
PFactorD
As always these duels are to be completed by the normal Sunday deadline.
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Loxy, PM sent. :salute
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wow a lot of forfeits this turny
HEY BE wanna forfeit LOL see you Friday bud
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BE, Rud did infact return my PM's but I think he forgot to cc your name. He offered a time that I couldn't make and I told him I'd forfeit seeing as I was the only reason the duel didn't occur. Therefore, I think it's only fair he moves on. :salute
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190A8 - Lepape2
109E - Lepape2
Assi has not revived his BBS account yet, but he will get somebody to confirm the result for him (I know I can't post results if I won). Will that work BadEagle?
That 2nd fight was adrenaline pumping! Stalling non stop from start to finish until the ultimate auger :O
:salute :salute :salute
Films:
190A8 (http://www.mediafire.com/?gskdlki6lbq55d2)
109E (http://www.mediafire.com/?ibpt3nyp05ptb70)
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Just waiting for the message from ASSI now
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BE, Rud did infact return my PM's but I think he forgot to cc your name. He offered a time that I couldn't make and I told him I'd forfeit seeing as I was the only reason the duel didn't occur. Therefore, I think it's only fair he moves on. :salute
You dog there went my bracket picks! Wished you could have fought him :devil
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This message is from Assi.
Thanks to Bald for the bracket, and to Shiv and Lepape2 for the fun fights.
I won't sign up for another tourny until I get a forum account.
Assi v. Lepape2
190 A8 - Lepape2
109e - Lepape2
Fun fights Lepape. You fought great, but you still have to live in Canada, so I feel like I win. Heh.
<S>
-Assi
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Fun fights Lepape. You fought great, but you still have to live in Canada, so I feel like I win. Heh
:rofl
touche, so to speak!
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1st - A6M5 - boo
2nd - 51D - BA
3rd - Spit9 - boo
GF's, have to do that again sometime!
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My only victory is a bye...Whomever I end up dueling, let me know when to meet up. I have taken a leave of absence from MA due to increased job load.
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Great fights brkarrw!
Boo
:salute
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UPDATE
So after TonyJoey's post and a PM from Rud3boi, Rud3boi will advance instead of TonyJoey. That change also changes plane assignment so eveyone's getting it at the same time. So here's then the final match-up:
Tomcat21
F6F-5
Rud3boi
Because we're already into Wednesday evening this fight is also granted an automatic extension to noon Monday but it would be best if you could get it done by Sunday.
Oh, BTW I'll accept the message from Assi as official since I know he hasn't had an account for a long time.
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LA7- Twizzty
109G2- Twizzty
Excellent job Twizzty. Soon maybe I can give you more of a fight.
Thanks for the fights and advice afterward. Very much appreciated.
:salute
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LA7- Twizzty
109G2- Twizzty
Excellent job Twizzty. Soon maybe I can give you more of a fight.
Thanks for the fights and advice afterward. Very much appreciated.
:salute
Fun fights haxxor, really enjoyed and C202 round afterwards as well. Keep at it sir and you'll be eating up the angles on all of us!
:salute
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F4U-1 theHIV
Spit 9 Changeup
190A8 theHIV
Suns,
Thank you for the fights and the conversation. Much better than I sir!! :salute :salute
I will be calling you for the German a/c lessons....thanks again bro
V/r
Changeup
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F4U-1 theHIV
Spit 9 Changeup
190A8 theHIV
Suns,
Thank you for the fights and the conversation. Much better than I sir!! :salute :salute
I will be calling you for the German a/c lessons....thanks again bro
V/r
Changeup
Great fights :salute
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hey baldeagle tonyjoey said he will not be able to fly nd will forfeit. <S>...Rud3boi :rock
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Great fights :salute
Why theHIV?
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hey baldeagle tonyjoey said he will not be able to fly nd will forfeit. <S>...Rud3boi :rock
Read back five posts before yours. <S> SunBat :rock
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hey baldeagle tonyjoey said he will not be able to fly nd will forfeit. <S>...Rud3boi :rock
Too bad you guys couldn't make a time my bracket picks would be accurate then :rock
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I wish the tourny had predetermined planes in each bracket so I can practice with the plane in the mean time :joystick:
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I wish the tourny had predetermined planes in each bracket so I can practice with the plane in the mean time :joystick:
I've flown against you, you've had enough practice. If this bracket goes to norm I have Bruv next...I need some serious practice! And even then...I'm currently looking for video of Bruv's past fights. Any one want to help a poor lost, wayfaring soul being thrown into the deep end?
Boo
:salute
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See Rule #6
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I've flown against you, you've had enough practice. If this bracket goes to norm I have Bruv next...I need some serious practice! And even then...I'm currently looking for video of Bruv's past fights. Any one want to help a poor lost, wayfaring soul being thrown into the deep end?
Boo
:salute
I have quite a few good films but will this one do?
http://www.4shared.com/file/gX8JgWz4/toc2011spit16.html
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Great film. The secret is up~! See you around.
Warmest,
Boo
:salute
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Typhoon : Loxy
C202 : PFactorD
P-47M : Loxy
:salute
Fun fights!
Watched the film on the first fight. Weirdest thing, when we were fighting the fire wasn't displayed. Fire was there when I watched the film. Explains why my wing came off so long after you put guns on me.
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Typhoon : Loxy
C202 : PFactorD
P-47M : Loxy
:salute
Fun fights!
Watched the film on the first fight. Weirdest thing, when we were fighting the fire wasn't displayed. Fire was there when I watched the film. Explains why my wing came off so long after you put guns on me.
Wtg loxy, unlucky pfacter, but there is always another tournament
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LOL bruv, how'd you get so alone as wabbit?! Miracle. I always seem to start with at least 3 people right at the 5k range. :(
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Typhoon : Loxy
C202 : PFactorD
P-47M : Loxy
:salute
Fun fights!
Watched the film on the first fight. Weirdest thing, when we were fighting the fire wasn't displayed. Fire was there when I watched the film. Explains why my wing came off so long after you put guns on me.
Good fights mate - got a bit hairy in the jugs :salute
Wtg loxy, unlucky pfacter, but there is always another tournament
Cheers my love :aok
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LOL bruv, how'd you get so alone as wabbit?! Miracle. I always seem to start with at least 3 people right at the 5k range. :(
Same here :uhoh
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LOL bruv, how'd you get so alone as wabbit?! Miracle. I always seem to start with at least 3 people right at the 5k range. :(
well the 2 rounds before that they were pretty hot, thats why you see me legging it at the start. :D
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well the 2 rounds before that they were pretty hot, thats why you see me legging it at the start. :D
Noooooo thats the one were you beat me for the win :(
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Noooooo thats the one were you beat me for the win :(
Wow god... didn't know you were such a loser... owait I'm duelling you next :uhoh
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Does wabbit not show up on DAR noe, or did you just fly past everyone as quick as you could.
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Watched the film on the first fight. Weirdest thing, when we were fighting the fire wasn't displayed. Fire was there when I watched the film. Explains why my wing came off so long after you put guns on me.
This happened to me in Rangoon. I was plugging away at some bombers that looked intact then when I watched the film they were alread on fire. Weird.
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This happened to me in Rangoon. I was plugging away at some bombers that looked intact then when I watched the film they were alread on fire. Weird.
Lots of times fire won't display on my pc until they blow up
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Lots of times fire won't display on my pc until they blow up
I've never noticed it before on my machine. I'm running a TilDeath machine that isn't really that old yet. Oh well. It doesn't matter. Loxy got me fair and square. :salute
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I've never noticed it before on my machine. I'm running a TilDeath machine that isn't really that old yet. Oh well. It doesn't matter. Loxy got me fair and square. :salute
Jedi merge trick, I used.
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BaldEagl vs LTARkilz
Yak9t LTARkilz
SpitV BaldEagl
A6M5b BaldEagl
Salute bro good luck to you in the rest of the rounds.
sorry i couldnt stick around for more duels
watch out for this one he is on his way to becoming a great pilot. i would say great now but i am a noob in a fighter lol salute bud good luck
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Yak9-T (I augered)
Spit V (Kilz augered)
A6M5 (Kilz death spiraled)
Other than the mistakes they were all fun fights and good flying. Was nice to finally meet you after all these years in the game and on the BBs. Anytime you're ready to go a few more rounds let me know. :salute
Oh... and I couldn't leave with out a :banana: I made it through a round for the first time in seven tournaments! :joystick:
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Yak9-T (I augered)
Spit V (Kilz augered)
A6M5 (Kilz death spiraled)
Other than the mistakes they were all fun fights and good flying. Was nice to finally meet you after all these years in the game and on the BBs. Anytime you're ready to go a few more rounds let me know. :salute
Oh... and I couldn't leave with out a :banana: I made it through a round for the first time in seven tournaments! :joystick:
Salute bud was nice to have met you too.
and is it just me or does BE have a really soothing voice makes you just start doing yoga or some watermelon lol
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Oh... and I couldn't leave with out a :banana: I made it through a round for the first time in seven tournaments! :joystick:
:banana:
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Oh... and I couldn't leave with out a :banana: I made it through a round for the first time in seven tournaments! :joystick:
Woot! Congrats!
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26 1/2 hours until the end of the second round and here's our as yet unfought duels:
SF
Seafire Mk II
IrishOne
wrongway
F4F-4
MickyD
Tomcat21
F6F-5
Rud3boi
Krupcake
P-40B
JUGgler
TC
F4U-1A
Yarbles
Meatgazr
P-39D
Bruv119
tyrannis
P-47N
Bearkats
Let's get these in so we're not holding up the fight for the quarterfinals.
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I'm gonna have to forfeit to Wrongway. Just havn't got the time to log in and fight.
I've spoke to him via pm.
:salute
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MickyD don't say its so! I know there is a lot between here and there but facing you in the final sounds just too nice. It's a hidden motivation for me. It's that whole 'monkey on the back' thing. I know, I know Bruv et al but I'm just say'n...
Boo
:salute
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I'm gonna have to forfeit to Wrongway. Just havn't got the time to log in and fight.
I've spoke to him via pm.
:salute
Yes summer is coming...
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Yes summer is coming...
I'm in Phoenix, Summer arrived 2.5 months ago :x
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I'm all for an extension if it would help Mickey D and as I would not be advancing otherwise.
:salute
wrongway
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Ooooo, I can't wait to see JUGgler and Krupcake...not only two of my favorite toon pile its but two of the bestest in the brackets.
Changeup
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Heya Yarbles, Sir......
I'll try and get back as soon as I can Sunday from my family plans with my Daughter & Stuff.....
I stayed up until 5 AM Saturday Morning ( all Friday Night ) trying to catch you online since it was Saturday AM around 10 or 11 AM your time and watched the boards to hope to maybe get our match in
I been on all this Saturday afternoon evening as well on the boards and in the game....... but it is what it is.....
not much more I can think of......... had hoped to get this done :salute :cheers:
TC
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Irish,
Heading off to Elitich Gardens with the kids for the day, hopefully we can get our fight in after I get back.
SF
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Seven of sixteen duels still to be fought. I just looked through all the posts and two of these might be granted an extension. The rest could be decided by postings or random draw. MickyD if it helps you I'd add your duel as a third to be granted an extension.
I'll delay updating the bracket until later tonight so you have time to either fight or make a case for an extension.
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myself and meatgazr have set a time so it should happen this evening, barring any hiccups. :cool:
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I am going to forfeit my matchup with Rud. I have a work related issue. Would not be right to hold it up any longer.<S> TC
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Tyrannis and I started our duel,we got one fight in before I got called out to the station. Hopefully we can finish up this afternoon or tonight.
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P47N-Husky.
Hurricane I-Husky.
:salute thought i had you sir so many times, but i just couldnt get my aiming down. you tho were deadly accurate :lol
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Juggler and I did our fights.
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Juggler and I did our fights.
And? Who won :D
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And? Who won :D
If the loser posts the results then....
wrongway
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myself and meatgazr have set a time so it should happen this evening, barring any hiccups. :cool:
:rofl :rofl lol ----> MEATGAZR <---- :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
:headscratch:
Watch out for him, never know what he's gonna do. :uhoh :O :uhoh
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So I've heard from some and not from others regarding the as yet unfought duels. While there seem to be many strange circumstances going on I'm going to allow until Tuesday night (about 10:00 PM Central when I get home from work) for the following duels to take place:
SF
Seafire Mk II
IrishOne
wrongway
F4F-4
MickyD
Tomcat21
F6F-5
Rud3boi
TC
F4U-1A
Yarbles
Meatgazr
P-39D
Bruv119
I'm trying to allow every opportunity for these to happen including the two that forfeited voluntarily. If they don't happen I've already got a plan for dealing with each. As always I'll post updates each night as results come in.
I understand the following duel did happen but the loser has not posted results:
Krupcake
P-40B
JUGgler
I need the winner to send links to their films to the review committee by no later than 10:00 PM tomorrow and the committee will have to make a determination by no later than 10:00 PM Tuesday (unless the loser would like to post results).
In other news SunsFan is now theHIV and Krupcake went back to using Krupnski.
That leaves us with only half our duels scheduled for this week and puts an onus on half of last weeks winners to complete the next series on a short schedule.
Well, here's the half that get to play. Good luck. This is for a coveted quarterfinal slot:
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-3.jpg)
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krup- p40b
krup- yak9t
GL youngin
JUGgler
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Irishone Seafire
Irishone LA7
Fun fights bro! :salute
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BaldEagle, Rud and I have communicated back and forth and it appears that our schedules conflict. I will forfeit in favor of Rud. <S> TC21
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BaldEagle, Rud and I have communicated back and forth and it appears that our schedules conflict. I will forfeit in favor of Rud. <S> TC21
If neither of you can attend I think its a random draw
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:bhead typhoon :bhead now tempest :bhead
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suns vs batfink
P47D40 - Bat
C202 - Suns
K$ - Suns
Awesome fight man, that c202 round was amazing good fun. I was outflown and the better pilot won without a doubt.
Heart pounding adrenalin pumping awesome fun. Thanks for the fights man.
I wish you good fortune continuing the ladder, although I think your skill will be enough not to need luck.
S!
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suns vs batfink
P47D40 - Bat
C202 - Suns
K$ - Suns
Awesome fight man, that c202 round was amazing good fun. I was outflown and the better pilot won without a doubt.
Heart pounding adrenalin pumping awesome fun. Thanks for the fights man.
I wish you good fortune continuing the ladder, although I think your skill will be enough not to need luck.
S!
bet the films of ya'lls duel match would be worth watching, bat! when are you going to duel theHIV... ( just kidding )..... seriuosly though is one of those on any given day scenarios for most of the remaining battles I think
Yarbles, Sir. Check your PM's please
<S>
TC
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Irishone Seafire
Irishone LA7
Fun fights bro! :salute
:salute
good flying man, fun fights :aok
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suns vs batfink
P47D40 - Bat
C202 - Suns
K$ - Suns
Awesome fight man, that c202 round was amazing good fun. I was outflown and the better pilot won without a doubt.
Heart pounding adrenalin pumping awesome fun. Thanks for the fights man.
I wish you good fortune continuing the ladder, although I think your skill will be enough not to need luck.
S!
he is a hard fight. :salute
I know you made him work for it.
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bet the films of ya'lls duel match would be worth watching
I absolutely agree TC sir, here ya go!
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/suns7thbracket.ahf
I've fought Suns many, many times for fun and in the dueling brackets, no regrets to be eliminated by him at all. :rock
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Yarbles v TC
F4U1-A Yarbles
F4U-1 TC
Spit-5 TC
:salute
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Unlucky Yarbs, WTG TC :salute
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Yarbles v TC
F4U1-A Yarbles
F4U-1 TC
Spit-5 TC
:salute
Nice job yarbs getting him in the hog. Better look next time.
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hey baldeagle tonyjoey said he will not be able to fly nd will forfeit. <S>...Rud3boi :rock
BaldEagle, Rud and I have communicated back and forth and it appears that our schedules conflict. I will forfeit in favor of Rud. <S> TC21
Could...he...go...all...the.. .way? :airplane:
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Could...he...go...all...the...way? :airplane:
:rofl :aok
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not his fault if you were too chicken
:D
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not his fault if you were too chicken
:D
:lol some people have lives you know! :D
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Could...he...go...all...the...way? :airplane:
Nope, seems I'm in his way. :aok
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:lol some people have lives you know! :D
And they make a commitment to do something why?
wrongway
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Wow Yarbles, quite an accomplishment to get TC in a 1a round :aok
:salute
BigRat
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And they make a commitment to do something why?
wrongway
Troll
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And they make a commitment to do something why?
wrongway
Chit happens Wow Yarbles, quite an accomplishment to get TC in a 1a round :aok
:salute
BigRat
I full week of teaching went into that plane :pray :)
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Tomcat21 Vs Rud3boi
F6F: Rud3Boi
P-40B: Rud3boi
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UPDATE
So there's two left that might happen. Regardless of what happens the next round will be finalized tomorrow night. In the meantime here's the next round match-ups based on the duels that did happen. Once again this doesn't change the normal Sunday deadline for these duels:
Rud3boi
P-39Q
Krupnski
BaldEagl
Bf 109K-4
TC
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Yarbles v TC
F4U1-A Yarbles
F4U-1 TC
Spit-5 TC
:salute
<S> Yarbles, you took me by complete surprise even though I did bother to check your stats for the last 3 months right before I logged into the DA this afternoon/evening
you owned me in the 1st round and actually had me in the 2nd round until I took us to the deck and got us as slow as possibly imaginable, I had to extend from Yarbles 3 ( maybe even 4? ) times and resetting the fight because he was beating me on the angles....I think it was the extending and reversing that helped me find a way to break even with Yarbles in rd # 2....... You really impressed me, seriously :aok I know
I did not even come close to showing you anything "impressable" by my flying........... I will not be taking you for granted anymore from here on out! Some very good maneuvering you put out today :salute
Wow Yarbles, quite an accomplishment to get TC in a 1a round :aok
:salute
BigRat
I am flattered kind of, Bigrat... but seriously Yarbles was actualy better than I was at the time of our match today...... I am just an old chunk of coal right now :old: ;)
1 full week of teaching went into that plane :pray :)
Yep, his stats showed it, where he had put most of his time in , in the F4U-1A....... and for the record.... I "Hate" the F4U-1A....... I'd rather fly an F4U-1D if I am not able to fly the F4U-1 :D
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I think I need to get back some of whatever it is I seem to be missing at this moment in time.....
I feel like I have turned to a complete pile of rust
I need to start flying/practicing more and start putting in at least 8 hours a week minimal, seriously! if I am going to compete in these tournaments/brackets
:salute Yarbles :cheers:
TC
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Films TC :pray
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suns vs batfink
P47D40 - Bat
C202 - Suns
K$ - Suns
Awesome fight man, that c202 round was amazing good fun. I was outflown and the better pilot won without a doubt.
Heart pounding adrenalin pumping awesome fun. Thanks for the fights man.
I wish you good fortune continuing the ladder, although I think your skill will be enough not to need luck.
S!
Great fights. The C202 round was intense.
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Films TC :pray
It was a great fight, here is the film :salute
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdafoq42c9r3w28
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Looks fun. I returned to the game too late to participate (and I can't hit anything yet :) ). Next time though.
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Tempest JOACH1M
Spit 5 JOACH1m
Cant say they were good fights but fights none the less. Best of luck moving forward.
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Tempest JOACH1M
Spit 5 JOACH1m
Cant say they were good fights but fights none the less. Best of luck moving forward.
:salute second spit5 was a nailbiter!
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UPDATE
As promised here's the last two matches that need to be completed by noon Sunday.
At this point I have to accept MickyD's forfeit so wrongway advances and the next match is:
IrishOne
P-38L
wrongway
Not only has Bruv posted here but meatgazr evidently missed a pre-arranged match then dropped out of sight so the match goes to Bruv by forfeit. The next match is:
Bruv119
P-51D
Boo
So with that the final fights for the quarterfinals are set.
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Bruv, how about Sunday 10pm Central? That should be 4am in England, which would have you nice and groggy. :banana:
I'll send you a PM.
Boo
:salute
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:bhead typhoon :bhead now tempest :bhead
next bruv xD
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Anyone going to fess up to being "meatgazr"?
He was no n00b, I'll tell you that...
Simon
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next bruv xD
I know :bolt:Anyone going to fess up to being "meatgazr"?
He was no n00b, I'll tell you that...
Simon
:noid
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Anyone going to fess up to being "meatgazr"?
He was no n00b, I'll tell you that...
Simon
Someones shade account, May they flew for a total of 3 hours, June just one 23 second sortie, i guess they didn't need there shade account sense they advanced or someone got nervous about dueling there shade in later rounds. probally resigned up for the 2 week trial, which would account for the few hours he did fly :rofl
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i know who it is :devil
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Anyone going to fess up to being "meatgazr"?
He was no n00b, I'll tell you that...
Simon
he was midway's shade, midway being Bruv's shade, so....wait... :noid
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he was midway's shade, midway being Bruv's shade, so....wait... :noid
:old: believe him to be BiPoLaR = JSTNBEBR = MEATGAZR
:noid
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:old: believe him to be BiPoLaR = JSTNBEBR = MEATGAZR
:noid
:O :eek: :bolt: :noid :eek:
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:old: believe him to be BiPoLaR = JSTNBEBR = MEATGAZR
:noid
:aok
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p39-Krupnski
ki84- Rud3boi
109k4- krupnski
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p39-Krupnski
ki84- Rud3boi
109k4- krupnski
GF's. :salute
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P-38L--IrishOne
Yak9U--IrishOne
P-38 was quick.
Yak was fun. Stalled out real bad in the first third. Irish is good at cutting down a corner.
:salute
wrongway
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p39-Krupnski
ki84- Rud3boi
109k4- krupnski
I predicted a tough fight here, looks like it was a close one. Films? :D
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P-38L--IrishOne
Yak9U--IrishOne
P-38 was quick.
Yak was fun. Stalled out real bad in the first third. Irish is good at cutting down a corner.
:salute
wrongway
fun fights, the yak round was damn close, i had a few holes my plane when it was said and done. good flyin :salute
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I predicted a tough fight here, looks like it was a close one. Films? :D
He E fought me, nothing jaw dropping, sorry to disappoint you. :bhead
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Rud3boi flies with a mouse, you'd expect him to favour E fighting wouldn't you? He's a really humble guy too.
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He E fought me, nothing jaw dropping, sorry to disappoint you. :bhead
Not dissapointed Krup. Congrats on the win. :aok :salute Good luck going forward.
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TA152 - Twizzty
P47M - Lepape2
109F - Lepape2
Great fights sir and a well deserved win Lepape2! Good luck in the next round and I cant wait to see the films of the last 2.
:salute :rock
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Ta152 Duel Film (http://www.mediafire.com/file/bckccxp4v6qhcqs/3ADB7%20-%20Ta152%20Lepape%20VS%20Twizzty%20Duel%20%231%20.ahf) (#1) - Crazy short boring fight
P47M Duel Film (http://www.mediafire.com/file/im3yvr6fgr505sy/3ADB7%20-%20P47M%20Lepape%20VS%20Twizzty%20Duel%20%232.ahf) (#2) - Crazy long awesome fight
109F Duel Film (http://www.mediafire.com/file/6wqf0okowar1od8/3ADB7%20-%20109F%20Lepape%20VS%20Twizzty%20Duel%20%233.ahf) (#3) - Crazy long awesome fight
It really could have went either way during those last two fights! :salute :salute :salute
This was our very first time dueling or fighting together as far as we know. Looks like I'll be looking around for you if we get a chance to fight again! :cheers:
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TA152 - Twizzty
P47M - Lepape2
109F - Lepape2
Great fights sir and a well deserved win Lepape2! Good luck in the next round and I cant wait to see the films of the last 2.
:salute :rock
Unlucky twizz, Wtg lepape
:salute
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Wtg, Lepape.
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Ta152 Duel Film (http://www.mediafire.com/file/bckccxp4v6qhcqs/3ADB7%20-%20Ta152%20Lepape%20VS%20Twizzty%20Duel%20%231%20.ahf) (#1) - Crazy short boring fight
P47M Duel Film (http://www.mediafire.com/file/im3yvr6fgr505sy/3ADB7%20-%20P47M%20Lepape%20VS%20Twizzty%20Duel%20%232.ahf) (#2) - Crazy long awesome fight
109F Duel Film (http://www.mediafire.com/file/6wqf0okowar1od8/3ADB7%20-%20109F%20Lepape%20VS%20Twizzty%20Duel%20%233.ahf) (#3) - Crazy long awesome fight
It really could have went either way during those last two fights! :salute :salute :salute
This was our very first time dueling or fighting together as far as we know. Looks like I'll be looking around for you if we get a chance to fight again! :cheers:
Epic...
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:aok Great fights guys wtg Lepape :salute
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#1
Fryrtuck
P38J
#2
Fryrtuck
Ki-84
:salute
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:salute :salute It sucks fighting squadies bud. Good fun.
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Ace maybe if there was FEW less of you. You wouldn't have to fight each other. :bolt:
BushLT <S>
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Ace maybe if there was FEW less of you. You wouldn't have to fight each other. :bolt:
BushLT <S>
What's wrong with signing up to a tournament? Anybody can.. I'm confused here this may be a troll.
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What's wrong with signing up to a tournament? Anybody can.. I'm confused here this may be a troll.
I think it was a .5 level troll
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As this thread gets longer, it also become funnier. lol for insecurity.
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Ace maybe if there was FEW less of you. You wouldn't have to fight each other. :bolt:
BushLT <S>
I resent your immature comment.
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109K-4 TC
Spit V TC
:salute TC. Quick wins both times but the F6F and 109G-2 fights afterward were a lot of fun.
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109K-4 TC
Spit V TC
:salute TC. Quick wins both times but the F6F and 109G-2 fights afterward were a lot of fun.
<S> BE!!!
yes sir was some intense fun in those 3 or 4 flights after them 1st 2 rds.... especially in the 109G2 and F6f rounds
TC
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Troll....
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I resent your immature comment.
Yes clearly gounds for a full blown Diatribe :D Setting asside the fact that logically he is correct.
I wish more people rather than less would enter though. I have had a bye and lost a round but still found the whole process great fun :aok
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Short sweet and too the point:
P-51D Bruv
Fw-190D Bruv
I would say 'good fight' but I think I bored him. Much to learn and now some tapes to review. Best of luck in the league!
Warmest,
Boo
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Short sweet and too the point:
P-51D Bruv
Fw-190D Bruv
I would say 'good fight' but I think I bored him. Much to learn and now some tapes to review. Best of luck in the league!
Warmest,
Boo
Amazing, huh? :D
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Amazing, huh? :D
Lol midway we love you :)
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lol shades
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lol shades
:lol the funniest part is that he isn't a shade :rofl
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So there we go. I was just waiting for the last result to come in.
Congratulations to all the quarterfinalists for making it this far. Now the road becomes a little tougher. For the quaterfinals and semifinals it's best of five. The person behind in the set gets the next plane choice and if the set becomes tied the loser of the last duel chooses.
In addition, as always, the loser must post results as normal but the winner is required to post films of the match and the films must be from take-off. Failure to post films is outlined in te rules on the first page of this thred.
Should be some good matches coming up.
Here's the next round. Good luck to all.
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-4.jpg)
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Heya Fryrtuck,
I am going out of town early Friday morning, heading to Tenn/Kentucky near Fort Campbell ( not sure when we coming back next week )
I can meet up with you Tues late evening/early Weds Morning 12:30 AM EDT to 2:00 AM or Weds late evening/early Thurs Morning 12:30 AM EDT to 2:00 AM
let me know which is best for you
<S>
TC
edit: Oops, I sent you a personal message just now, Fryrtuck....... rather than clog up the results thread :salute
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A spit16 tha can turn better...great! :cry
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So there we go. I was just waiting for the last result to come in.
Congratulations to all the quarterfinalists for making it this far. Now the road becomes a little tougher. For the quaterfinals and semifinals it's best of five. The person behind in the set gets the next plane choice and if the set becomes tied the loser of the last duel chooses.
In addition, as always, the loser must post results as normal but the winner is required to post films of the match and the films must be from take-off. Failure to post films is outlined in te rules on the first page of this thred.
Should be some good matches coming up.
Here's the next round. Good luck to all.
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-4.jpg)
Could the films be sent to a review member? Instead of in public?
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Could the films be sent to a review member? Instead of in public?
why?
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In case he gets owned by his opponent I don't know :rolleyes:
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In case he gets owned by his opponent I don't know :rolleyes:
:rofl u that case I will bot have to post them :)
why?
I'm shy :)
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kick Bruv's tail, then nothin to be shy about.
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kick Bruv's tail, then nothin to be shy about.
I'd proudly post a film of me killing him...sadly I don't have :uhoh
If u really want my films I would pm. Not just post them about though :aok
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i don't think it's a matter of him wanting your films, its a matter of following the rules set forth, the rules everyones agreed to when they signed up. we dont need last tourneys drama.
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i don't think it's a matter of him wanting your films, its a matter of following the rules set forth, the rules everyones agreed to when they signed up. we dont need last tourneys drama.
Well If I just sent any my films to the review comitte it should be fine. I just a bit paranoid of posting films of me doing anything special :)
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Well If I just sent any my films to the review comitte it should be fine. I just a bit paranoid of posting films of me doing anything special :)
:rofl
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:huh
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So there we go. I was just waiting for the last result to come in.
Congratulations to all the quarterfinalists for making it this far. Now the road becomes a little tougher. For the quaterfinals and semifinals it's best of five. The person behind in the set gets the next plane choice and if the set becomes tied the loser of the last duel chooses.
In addition, as always, the loser must post results as normal but the winner is required to post films of the match and the films must be from take-off. Failure to post films is outlined in the rules on the first page of this thread.
If u really want my films I would pm. Not just post them about though :aok
Well If I just sent any my films to the review comitte it should be fine. I just a bit paranoid of posting films of me doing anything special :)
that isnt what the rules say. the rules say the loser posts the results the winner posts the films
maybe it is time baldeagl starts thinking about only allowing people 21 and older enter his event
seems the youngins are always not willing to cooperate or acts like dramaqueens
MoJo
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They don't want Kazaa's voice on the films if Kazaa accidentally says something. :noid
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that isnt what the rules say. the rules say the loser posts the results the winner posts the films
maybe it is time baldeagl starts thinking about only allowing people 21 and older enter his event
seems the youngins are always not willing to cooperate or acts like dramaqueens
MoJo
:rofl :rofl please explain how that can help. I can make a new forum account and change my ingame I I really wanted to do these tournaments :roflThey don't want Kazaa's voice on the films if Kazaa accidentally says something. :noid
yes trollbat, this is exactly what I'm trying to do :rolleyes:
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Well If I just sent any my films to the review comitte it should be fine. I just a bit paranoid of posting films of me doing anything special :)
Does it say to send them into the review committee? or does it say winner posts films? maybe you shouldn't enter Tourneys if you cant obey the rules when you signed up. Sorry but something sounds fishy if you don't want to post them because your paranoid, Paranoid of what?
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Does it say to send them into the review committee? or does it say winner posts films? maybe you shouldn't enter Tourneys if you cant obey the rules when you signed up. Sorry but something sounds fishy if you don't want to post them because your paranoid, Paranoid of what?
Im just asking if we have to post them in the wide open. I would rather not post them publically, but i must post them out here I guess I will....
Im paranoid that people are gonna download my films break the down to pieces and learn how I fly and then they will give me :ahand
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Im just asking if we have to post them in the wide open. I would rather not post them publically, but i must post them out here I guess I will....
Im paranoid that people are gonna download my films break the down to pieces and learn how I fly and then they will give me :ahand
That and Kazaa's limey squeaks.
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Im just asking if we have to post them in the wide open. I would rather not post them publically, but i must post them out here I guess I will....
Im paranoid that people are gonna download my films break the down to pieces and learn how I fly and then they will give me :ahand
:rofl :rofl :rofl
now you sound like bruv.....someone have a superiority complex.
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They don't want Kazaa's voice on the films if Kazaa accidentally says something. :noid
"Chop throttle, Chop throttle!!!"
Sorry, I just had to
Wurz
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"Chop throttle, Chop throttle!!!"
Sorry, I just had to
Wurz
:rofl
This is for you ink <3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysqh1uzqGrc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Im just asking if we have to post them in the wide open. I would rather not post them publically, but i must post them out here I guess I will....
Im paranoid that people are gonna download my films break the down to pieces and learn how I fly and then they will give me :ahand
No you don't have to post films if you lose the fights. :old:
The winner does. :D
According to BE's rules and in those rules it does say there are 2 reasons for these postings. One of these reasons is to verify the results the other is so those of us lowly peons that did not make the grade can use them to learn more and enjoy (this is the one that can't be accomplished if you only send it to the review committee).
I have one favor to ask though. Please don't turn this one question into the same drama that occurred at the end of the last tourney. :pray I rather enjoy these tourneys.
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I rather enjoy these tourneys.
I enjoy them too!!!
and I enjoy watching the films of the final rounds...... quarters/semis/finals .......
best of luck to everyone :airplane:---------<| :cheers:
TC
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:rofl
This is for you ink <3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysqh1uzqGrc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
why would you show us a video of you as a kid :headscratch:
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Im paranoid that people are gonna download my films break the down to pieces and learn how I fly and then they will give me :ahand
:confused:
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Jo still has much to learn, he is a good kid that we will continue to work with. It just takes ALOT of time and patience. :D
I'm looking forward to the fight because he has become very dangerous and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he does win. :salute
Rest assured you will have the films for the viewing pleasure of the community.
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i don't think it's a matter of him wanting your films, its a matter of following the rules set forth, the rules everyones agreed to when they signed up. we dont need last tourneys drama.
+1
Please :pray
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why would you show us a video of you as a kid :headscratch:
Ink made a funny :D
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- From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward. This also allows for film study by those hoping to improve their skills. Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
- Films may be posted in any round if both participants agree.
all films from this bracket on must be posted by the winner of the duel.
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"Chop throttle, Chop throttle!!!"
Sorry, I just had to
Wurz
I'm sorry but that is just hilarious! I think you had to be there but every time I hear it I think back to the "oh Sh*T" moment we knew was coming; we were not disappointed :) :rofl
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:rofl
Enough of the drama you queens.
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all films from this bracket on must be posted by the winner of the duel.
Seemed clear enough to 99.9% of us.
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Could I throw out an idea for the next Dueling bracket? What about a double elimination? Would it add too much length to the process now? I know I've done this in Rugby 7's. If a bad idea I'll drop it and I very much appreciate BE for putting this together, no complaints, just a thought.
Boo
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Ta-152 Krupnski
Fw190A-8 Krupnski
Fw190A-5 IrishOne
Bf109K-$ Krupnski
:salute :aok :cheers: :bolt:
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Ta-152 Krupnski
Fw190A-8 Krupnski
Fw190A-5 IrishOne
Bf109K-$ Krupnski
:salute :aok :cheers: :bolt:
Boo Krupnski. Effin boo.
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Dammit Irish :(
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Dammit Irish :(
:lol
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wait how come irish nd krup did 4 duels? When me nd krup did ours it was his win on the p39 then i beat him in my ki84 then he won the 109k4....was there suppose to be another round?
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no, it's three rounds to start then it increases as the tourny progresses.
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no, it's three rounds to start then it increases as the tourny progresses.
I like your sig lol.
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GF's Irish. :salute
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish1.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish2.ahf
I accidentaly hit cancel on this film, Irish has it.
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish4.ahf
Hey Spek, my sig, what real rap should be about... truth and stories with reason that people can relate to. :)
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110C- thehiv
P47M- lepape
TA152- thehiv
P47D11- lepape
c202- lepape
great fights man :salute
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110C- thehiv
P47M- lepape
TA152- thehiv
P47D11- lepape
c202- lepape
great fights man :salute
Way to go Lepape, unlucky HIV :salute
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Here are the films:
110C4 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/pqq756o7f7orqcg/3ADB7%20-%20110C4%20Lepape2%20VS%20TheHIV%20%231.ahf)#1
P47M (http://www.mediafire.com/file/2fpx44h6n9r3aio/3ADB7%20-%20P47M%20Lepape2%20VS%20TheHIV%20%232.ahf)#2
Ta152 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ycj9wrj2k70k7ph/3ADB7%20-%20Ta152%20Lepape2%20VS%20TheHIV%20%233.ahf)#3
P47D11 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/y35cq89a8tbomy5/3ADB7%20-%20P47D11Lepape2%20VS%20TheHIV%20%234.ahf)#4
C202 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/nyzpze23xtihve8/3ADB7%20-%20C202%20Lepape2%20VS%20TheHIV%20%235.ahf)#5 - Greatest fight I've had in a year at least. Sorry for the PW Suns, could have went either way for sure!
Big :salute
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GF's Irish. :salute
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish1.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish2.ahf
I accidentaly hit cancel on this film, Irish has it.
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish4.ahf
Hey Spek, my sig, what real rap should be about... truth and stories with reason that people can relate to. :)
I just like the video lmao.
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I just like the video lmao.
Love you sig, but Mac miller is better :P
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Some outstanding flying on both parts. Wtg Lepape :salute
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A6m3- Bruv
109g14- Bruv
109f- bruv
:salute
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I think I out witted jo more than I out flew him but here are the films.
http://www.4shared.com/file/iyw7WUxI/a6mjoa.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/0-Af4pA0/jo109g14.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/BwkMUBYX/109f4joa.html
he more than made up for it in the follow up dueling session :salute
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Jolly good show chaps. I'll take a peak at these films, once I'm back in my cottage.
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Good fights gents.
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GF's Irish. :salute
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish1.ahf
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish2.ahf
I accidentaly hit cancel on this film, Irish has it.
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/irish4.ahf
Hey Spek, my sig, what real rap should be about... truth and stories with reason that people can relate to. :)
Great, more missing films. Well, you know rules are rules! Not another fiasco, I don't think we can handle it!
- Both players will film all duels from take-off in case of a dispute. These films must be saved until at least noon on the Tuesday following the duel or until 48 hours after the end of any granted extension in case of a dispute. If a dispute arises then the films must be saved until such dispute is settled.
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Great, more missing films. Well, you know rules are rules! Not another fiasco, I don't think we can handle it!
- Both players will film all duels from take-off in case of a dispute. These films must be saved until at least noon on the Tuesday following the duel or until 48 hours after the end of any granted extension in case of a dispute. If a dispute arises then the films must be saved until such dispute is settled.
^
Won't suit your cause.
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:bolt:
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Your right Grizz but this will.
- From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward. This also allows for film study by those hoping to improve their skills. Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
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Pressing 'cancel by mistake' should not be an excuse.
Especially if you are the person on the otherside of a films scandal of the past.
I suppose, just like Spek had, everyone gets one strike in hand before we make an issue out of it?
Pretty ironic Krup, I would have thought you of all people would not fail on something so basic after last time.
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Bruv is going to take away your porridge and pot noodles for a week Ace. :lol
Krup hit cancel on the fight he lost, which isn't surprising since that's out of habit of rage canceling after you die. He did post the three wins. So what exactly are you contesting? That the fight be refought and krup is still declared the winner since there are already 3 victories on the books?
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Only reason I've said anything is because it happend to me last time. Imo its only fair if we follow the rules.
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Did Krupinski ever post his duels from the last time :noid
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This is gonna be good
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Irish will post the film for you sweetheartbags.
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Grizz, don't worry I have no agenda or dog in this fight, I just find it somewhat ironic given some of the...ahem....previous statements made by some :) I personally wouldn't want to be anywhere around this stuff given the previous demands for strict "adherence" to the rules some demanded :bolt:
Most likely not, since Krup has a brain and knows how to film and follow simple rules.
I don't see how a rematch will be possible since Drspek cannot film apparently. I guess Krup will win by forfeit. :lol
Thank You.
As far as I'm concerned I could have done better and Spek won the fights, but he did fail to follow the rules by not fixing his problem w/ recording films. If B.E. comes on and confirms a rematch and spek forfeits to that, besides not having all the films which he should, he still won the first round fights, no doubt there.
Maybe if you watch my film you'll see I did.. oh, that's right.. you don't have them.. oh well.
I love this thread
Forgot to edit my post like the cool kids, sorry.
I don't remember calling him a liar.
Although I don't understand the last part of this sentance he was simply called on a technicality and the final bracket reflects that. I made the best unbiased ruling that I could under difficult circumstances and gave him the option to refight the duels which he declined to do.
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I think I out witted jo more than I out flew him but here are the films.
http://www.4shared.com/file/iyw7WUxI/a6mjoa.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/0-Af4pA0/jo109g14.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/BwkMUBYX/109f4joa.html
he more than made up for it in the follow up dueling session :salute
:O Learned something here.
:old: Use a lot less throttle a lot more often to turn faster. :)
wtg Joach1m and my FPH :salute :rock
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Irish will post the film for you sweetheartbags.
Wow, little uncalled for? What's a sweetheartbag anyway?
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See Rules #4, #6
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WoW, just wow.
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Wow, little uncalled for? What's a sweetheartbag anyway?
If you do not know what a sweetheartbag is then how is it uncalled for? Uplift!
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If you do not know what a sweetheartbag is then how is it uncalled for?
We can assume your not being nice. How about you come on vent and vent a little bit we can discuss the BoB or American politics? Tea and crumpets are at the ready!
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If you do not know what a sweetheartbag is then how is it uncalled for? Uplift!
I knew it was an insult that had been filtered out, just not sure which one exactly. It's unlike you to resort to name calling.
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Hey Joach1m if your going to use my quotes include the whole conversation, i was talking to YOU when you didn't want to post films IF you WON, wasn't i?. Nice Troll at stirring the Pot. If Irish is disputing the duel then its up to him to say so right? Make a contested statement saying so. The second i seen his post i knew where this thread is going and fast :rofl
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relax children, i have the film. gimme a minute
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Didnt Krup have the films when spek didn't?
:t :bolt:
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relax children, i have the film. gimme a minute
Sorry Irish but B.E. made it clear in his previous rulings that the "loser" posting the films don't mitigate the infraction of the rules :aok Believe me there were many who wished that it had.
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I never recalled Krup disputing my win? I just lost because I didn't POST the films required. Hopefully BE will show soon..
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Hey Joach1m if your going to use my quotes include the whole conversation, i was talking to YOU when you didn't want to post films IF you WON, wasn't i?
it seemed to fit well with this occasion . Nice Troll at stirring the Pot.
I'd say it's a level 1 troll.
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Hey Joach1m if your going to use my quotes include the whole conversation, i was talking to YOU when you didn't want to post films IF you WON, wasn't i?. Nice Troll at stirring the Pot. If Irish is disputing the duel then its up to him to say so right? Make a contested statement saying so. The second i seen his post i knew where this thread is going and fast :rofl
Nope, actually Krup stated over and over that "he" did not dispute the fight. need I go back and ...ahem....get one of the quotes :)
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Didnt Krup have the films when spek didn't?
:t :bolt:
what does that drama have to do with THIS tourney? all i will say is i flew my first and last tourney.
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The point has been made. For the sake of the AH community, I suggest we now let BE deal with it.
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Interesting that the very ones who thought the rules were unimportant last time now insist that they be followed. This just proves that BE’s impartial ruling to negate Spek’s victory was just and fair.
The one fight that was not filmed should be refought. If Krup wins it changes nothing, if he loses (again), it also changes nothing. However the rules will be followed and that should not change. And the fact that Spek did not win the last tourney because of technical incompetence will not change. Justice will be served to all.
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friggin pathetic...just reinforces my thoughts on you few "people"
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friggin pathetic...just reinforces my thoughts on you few "people"
:rofl
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The point has been made. For the sake of the AH community, I suggest we now let BE deal with it.
yea the point has been made by your whole squad as always, no wonder i will never respect the "Phew" there i said it and its been bugging me for along time, some of the guys you've let in removed what class there was, i never get pissed but today's the day. Have a great day.
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Look, the real issue I have with all of this is the fact that good people who join the bracket can have good clean fights with honor and good gamesmanship and the whole thing is called in a technicality because the AH community gets wrapped around the rules if they dislike the person, and fight to see the rules relaxed if they do. We saw this previously and we know the results. It is now simply ironic that the same role is reversed and I wonder exactly how the people on both sides will react.
Me personally, I have no issue with Krup winning the match, looks like he fought hard for that win and he deserved it. I felt the same way for DrSpek also and thought he fought a great fight and deserved the win, I was wrong.
I only post the quote below to show that Krup states he took a neutral stance before which goes to the fact that no it is apparently not up to the opponents in the duel who wins or loses due to the infraction of the rules.
Ok.. umm, first off.. Joach1m, your comments made me lol, if you go back and read this: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,297463.210.html You'll see I was more than happy losing to you a second time, was a fun fight.
I've said nothing negative, or positive for that matter in this thread, my status remains neutral till BaldEagl and the review committee say something.
But spek, how is it one of your films saved and not the others? Recording the whole event as 1 film would have been an easier solution to someone without much computer knowledge.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?ap5ufp5ca833mcw
for gods sake, the fight is IRRELEVANT. he won the other 3. here is your film kids. if the rules say i cant post it, ill send it to krup and you can all watch the same ch1t again. enjoy
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yea the point has been made by your whole squad as always, no wonder i will never respect the "Phew" there i said it and its been bugging me for along time, some of the guys you've let in removed what class there was, i never get pissed but today's the day. Have a great day.
Your mad over a forum?
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http://www.mediafire.com/?ap5ufp5ca833mcw
for gods sake, the fight is IRRELEVANT. he won the other 3. here is your film kids. if the rules say i cant post it, ill send it to krup and you can all watch the same watermelon again. enjoy
now that would be cheating :)
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friggin pathetic...just reinforces my thoughts on you few "people"
And the hypocrisy and double standards reenforce ours of yours.
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Interesting that the very ones who thought the rules were unimportant last time now insist that they be followed. This just proves that BE’s impartial ruling to negate Spek’s victory was just and fair.
The one fight that was not filmed should be refought. If Krup wins it changes nothing, if he loses (again), it also changes nothing. However the rules will be followed and that should not change. And the fact that Spek did not win the last tourney because of technical incompetence will not change. Justice will be served to all.
Spek did win the last tourney :aok
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yea the point has been made by your whole squad as always, no wonder i will never respect the "Phew" there i said it and its been bugging me for along time, some of the guys you've let in removed what class there was, i never get pissed but today's the day. Have a great day.
I really do not care :lol
Have a great day sir :salute
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cmon guys, really? you have all 4 films, Krup clearly beat me, there is nothing to dispute here.
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And the hypocrisy and double standards reenforce ours of yours.
looking in a mirror are you?
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cmon guys, really?
Thats what I was saying last tourney in my head.
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The few once again killing any event they touch even ones they create.
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looking in a mirror are you?
As a squad, as an individual, as a witness to the last bracket or as a participant of this tournament?
Why don't you dwell on the word witness and hope I do not go further.
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How about everyone just sticks to the rules and doesn't make this personel.
This the aces high duelling bracket not the Muppets V The Few.
I would suggest how we conduct ourseves is far more important than who wins the bracket. I have no respect for anyone who degenerates into personel insults or pathetic point scoring lets just get on with the competition. What would be nice to see now is some unpartisan behaviour on both sides.
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friggin pathetic...just reinforces my thoughts on you few "people"
How quickly we forget:
congrats to Spec and Krup :aok both awesome sticks, .......the rules were not followed the final match should be redone.
not using the F3 view, should be added to the rules :aok
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyaXh-VZco
this fits perfect
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Hey Joach1m if your going to use my quotes include the whole conversation, i was talking to YOU when you didn't want to post films IF you WON, wasn't i?. Nice Troll at stirring the Pot. If Irish is disputing the duel then its up to him to say so right? Make a contested statement saying so. The second i seen his post i knew where this thread is going and fast :rofl
Yep, was the same thing I was saying when I saw this one:
quote author=68ZooM link=topic=305537.msg3988778#msg3988778 date=1300222790]
if krup didn't post films when he was REQUIRED to, then yes he would be receiving the same reactions from players about it, I'm sorry your computer is acting strange, have you thought about mapping the recorder to a joystick key? that's how i mapped mine, then when I'm done i can either name it and save or just hit save and it just gets a number.
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Maybe post another thread a petition so you can have the conversation not in the results thread.
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cmon guys, really? you have all 4 films, Krup clearly beat me, there is nothing to dispute here.
Irish I agree, as I did in the sixth dueling bracket. I learned that I was wrong sadly enough. :salute
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Wiz approves.
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The few once again killing any event they touch even ones they create.
Just for the record Kilo, I agree that Krupinski won the match with Irish and I think it would be a shame to see it overturned and truly hope to see him advance to the finals. In that same context I still contend that DrSpek won the last bracket and was saddened to see him lose on a stupid technicality for the same exact thing. This whole thing was, and is stupid.
And in the end, and my whole purpose for even saying anything is to this end: That this dueling bracket should be about good honest fights and may the best person at the time win. The whole fiasco about breaking a technicality and losing as a result should have never happened and those who supported it will hopefully see that there is two sides to the same argument.
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Just for the record Kilo, I agree that Krupinski won the match with Irish and I think it would be a shame to see it overturned and truly hope to see him advance to the finals. In that same context I still contend that DrSpek won the last bracket and was saddened to see him lose on a stupid technicality for the same exact thing. This whole thing was, and is stupid.
Just for the record Kilo I think Krup should be treated in exactly the way Spek was. If we are going to enforce all the rules fine lets do it in all cases. If people cant organise their films than they can pay the consequneces in the same way that if the accidently load a bomb or a drop tank that is down to them. No one should be chosing which rule to obey and which not to and everyone should be treated the same.
The problem with some people in these games is the only thing they focus on is winning and fairness is just what gets them to the winning post. If people behave this badly over a cartoon aeroplane game I would hate to have to deal with some of you over something that mattered in real life.
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Thats what me and Wiz ^^^ are now doing :)
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How quickly we forget:
were any films available in that last mess? I don't really care enough to go back and look through all the posts, you obviously do so how many films were posted? in that match up the fights could/would have changed the out come of the duel?
Krup posted his 3 winning fights the film he didn't save he lost in, so a rematch of that one fight has ZERO effect on the out come of the match, so what is the point?
it would not change the out come at all.
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rofl, :aok
Now don't even make me go back and get your quotes waystin,,,now that would be ugly :)
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were any films available in that last mess? I don't really care enough to go back and look through all the posts, you obviously do so how many films were posted? in that match up the fights could/would have changed the out come of the duel?
Krup posted his 3 winning fights the film he didn't save he lost in, so a rematch of that one fight has ZERO effect on the out come of the match, so what is the point?
it would not change the out come at all.
Ink you are correct, and yes films of all the fights were available, from at least 5 people (including Krupinski) who filmed the match. In the end the demand was simply this: The "winner" did not film "All" fights and therefore forfeits the match. It is exactly because I agree with your point that this whole thing was, and is stupid.
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The problem with some people in these games is the only thing they focus on is winning and fairness is just what gets them to the winning post. If people behave this badly over a cartoon aeroplane game I would hate to have to deal with some of you over something that mattered in real life.
I LOST! why is this so hard to understand? im not focused on winning because I LOST! i'm thinking this is my last tourny appearance. don't get me wrong, i had fun. but this is ridiculous.
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I LOST! why is this so hard to understand? im not focused on winning because I LOST! i'm thinking this is my last tourny appearance. don't get me wrong, i had fun. but this is ridiculous.
He is talking about ME Irish :)
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Ink you are correct, and yes films of all the fights were available, from at least 5 people who filmed the match. In the end the demand was simply this: The "winner" did not film "All" fights and therefore forfeits the match. It is exactly because I agree with your point that this whole thing was, and is stupid.
were any films posted by the "winner" any at all? the last time? there was more involved in that last match up, but truly the drama is :rolleyes:
I LOST! why is this so hard to understand? im not focused on winning because I LOST! i'm thinking this is my last tourny appearance. don't get me wrong, i had fun. but this is ridiculous.
yup ditto I wont be in another
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i think squad rivalries should be banned from future tournaments.
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were any films posted by the "winner" any at all? the last time? there was more involved in that last match up, but truly the drama is :rolleyes:
yup ditto I wont be in another
Ink, the answer is "Yes", films were posted by the winner, just not all of them.
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all that happened was Krup clicked cancel. i do it in haste all the time after i get shot. i made sure i saved the film. some people have issue with this. i cannot do anything about it. all of the film is present. that being said, idgaf who is in what squad. has nothing to do with the Krupnski/IrishOne duel. i lost. i LOST! I LOST!!!!!!!! :bhead
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No one is suggesting Krupinski not posting the films affects the outcome of the fights. We are simply pointing out that this is what happened to DrSpek last time, even after Krupinski posted that Spek had defeated him and did not contest the win at that time. Therefore a double standard is clear and a hypocritical response from some of the posters.
I think Yarbles is correct that some people are so focussed on the results and winning that all other considerations become irrelevant. Some people look for any technicality to achieve their agenda, and I do not mean Krupinski in this case. For those with any objectivity at all, those doing this can be very clearly identified.
Everybody, regardless of squadron, inter-squadron feuding or the constant swaying of public opinion due to a small noisy minority has the right to equal treatment and a fair and even handling under the rules.
Irish relax. No further action is suggested or implied, just drop the double standard (some of you).
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Ink, the answer is "Yes"
cool, I am done with this bracket, and anything else in AH that "the few" has anything to do with. except of course the MA's I will gladly attack your hoard.
sorry BE you put a lot of time into this, you don't deserve to have it ruined.
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i cannot do anything about it.
Thats what I was saying last time.
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sorry BE you put a lot of time into this, you don't deserve to have it ruined.
You are right, however your implication that The Few ruined it in the first place is wrong. Who started the trouble in the sixth ink?
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the only way to resolve this is for everybody to stop slinging doodoo at each other. nobody is going to change a fight that happened in the last tourny, so why are you all arguing about it? this the results thread of the SEVENTH tourny. im sure BE is just gonna love reading all this noise. :salute im out
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:O Can't we all just be friends and enjoy the duels? :ahand :bhead
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cool, I am done with this bracket, and anything else in AH that "the few" has anything to do with. except of course the MA's I will gladly attack your hoard.
sorry BE you put a lot of time into this, you don't deserve to have it ruined.
I don't see how BE even needs to be involved, in this case no one is actually asking for a disqualification, only pointing out the double standard, held even by you. This point was made by me, so if you want to be upset with me fine I accept that. Nothing changes in the dueling bracket and the fights go on. Of course last time you attacked my horde I don't think it turned out like you hoped :)
so unless someone else want to ruin this for BE, I don't suspect we will even hear from him. No one on this end is even crying to him. Salute
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I don't see how BE even needs to be involved, in this case no one is actually asking for a disqualification, only pointing out the double standard, held even by you. This point was made by me, so if you want to be upset with me fine I accept that. Nothing changes in the dueling bracket and the fights go on. Of course last time you attacked my horde I don't think it turned out like you hoped :)
so unless someone else want to ruin this for BE, I don't suspect we will even hear from him. No one on this end is even crying to him. Salute
I don't care about winning or dieing in a game, unlike you guys, I don't care what my score is, so ya it went exactly how I expected :aok
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I don't care about winning or dieing in a game, unlike you guys, I don't care what my score is, so ya it went exactly how I expected :aok
:headscratch: it was 1 v 1 as I recall :cheers: I am the horde I spoke of
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I am 100% certain there's a difference between instinctively hitting 'cancel' on a film, and entering a tournament which requires you to film fights, knowing your computer will not allow you to film.
I've made so many great moves/shots that I wish I had, but I instinctively hit 'cancel' on the popup because stuff like that only happens maybe 2 times out of 100 sorties.
:bhead
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Kazaa, I like your sense of style. Especially the pics of the ladies. :aok
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I am 100% certain there's a difference between instinctively hitting 'cancel' on a film, and entering a tournament which requires you to film fights, knowing your computer will not allow you to film.
I've made so many great moves/shots that I wish I had, but I instinctively hit 'cancel' on the popup because stuff like that only happens maybe 2 times out of 100 sorties.
:bhead
My biggest regret in AH so far is hitting cancel out of habit on the 10 kill sortie I was part of in Bruv's plane. Was the best sortie by far I've seen. Wish I had that film. :frown:
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I am 100% certain there's a difference between instinctively hitting 'cancel' on a film, and entering a tournament which requires you to film fights, knowing your computer will not allow you to film.
I've made so many great moves/shots that I wish I had, but I instinctively hit 'cancel' on the popup because stuff like that only happens maybe 2 times out of 100 sorties.
:bhead
My computer was low on memory which I didn't know of. Therefore the film didn't save as I typed the following into the film box: Krupinski Rd. #. I sincerly hope that this tournament follows the rules and no one gets them bent for any reason.
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I don't care about winning or dieing in a game, unlike you guys
And that is nothing more than a unfounded assumption and generalisation. Some members of The Few care about the score and some members of the Muppets probably do too.
No one from the Few stands to gain a 'win' from raising this dispute, except to make the playing field more level for next time. Please try to understand the point we are making instead of looking for more fuel for the pathetic Muppets versus Few feud.
Krup your point would be valid on the condition that Spek knew the films weren't recording during your fights, which he didn't. You both ultimately did exactly the same thing, failed to meet the requirements of the rules.
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And that is nothing more than a unfounded assumption and generalisation. Some members of The Few care about the score and some members of the Muppets probably do too.
No one from the Few stands to gain a 'win' from raising this dispute, except to make the playing field more level for next time. Please try to understand the point we are making instead of looking for more fuel for the pathetic Muppets versus Few feud.
Krup your point would be valid on the condition that Spek knew the films weren't recording during your fights, which he didn't. You both ultimately did exactly the same thing, failed to meet the requirements of the rules.
I'm not going fishing for quotes, but I'm sure he and DrBone were saying something about both of them having problems saving films, and that it existed before the bracket.
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I am 100% certain there's a difference between instinctively hitting 'cancel' on a film, and entering a tournament which requires you to film fights, knowing your computer will not allow you to film.
I've made so many great moves/shots that I wish I had, but I instinctively hit 'cancel' on the popup because stuff like that only happens maybe 2 times out of 100 sorties.
:bhead
Yes there is a difference, I completely agree. :aok I don't argue that at all.
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Bruv,
Be careful please....if you ever have to stop suddenly, Midway's head will go all the way up your ass. That will look foolish in the emergency room.
Changeup
Sorry Midway, I like you but it's got to stop, lol
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:headscratch: it was 1 v 1 as I recall :cheers: I am the horde I spoke of
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I'm not going fishing for quotes, but I'm sure he and DrBone were saying something about both of them having problems saving films, and that it existed before the bracket.
Yes that's correct, and several of us attempted to fix the problem and only partially succeeded. Spek is not very computer literate. Please do not imply malice on his part without understanding the facts.
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Yes that's correct, and several of us attempted to fix the problem and only partially succeeded. Spek is not very computer literate. Please do not imply malice on his part without understanding the facts.
Change your mind much?
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Change my mind about what?
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This thread has become classy.
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Bruv,
Be careful please....if you ever have to stop suddenly, Midway's head will go all the way up your ass. That will look foolish in the emergency room.
Changeup
Sorry Midway, I like you but it's got to stop, lol
:rolleyes: Oh Changeup, got to drag it down in the dirt, huh? :neener:
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Change my mind about what?
Krup your point would be valid on the condition that Spek knew the films weren't recording during your fights, which he didn't.
I'm not going fishing for quotes, but I'm sure he and DrBone were saying something about both of them having problems saving films, and that it existed before the bracket.
Yes that's correct
You're contradicting yourself.
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You're contradicting yourself.
No hes not lol. But to the film thing I dont recall at all of Bone having this problem? Someone enlighten me there please. As for mine I did not know about the problem until the bracket. It did it at random so its not like I knew when it was going to.
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How about we let BE apply the rules and shut it now.
TBH I imagine the few squaddron and the muppets have more in common than any other squads in the game. Neither squad should be proud of all this squabbling. Can we get on with the event in peace now.
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Ah, so you DO remember! Thought your memory was as bad as mine
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Well if he thought the problem was fixed before your fights, then it wasn't premeditated now was it?
Let me ask you a direct question Krupinski: Did DrSpek beat you in the final of the last Duelling Bracket?
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:rolleyes: Oh Changeup, got to drag it down in the dirt, huh? :neener:
I'm worried about Bruvs safety!!! Lmao!!!
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Well if he thought the problem was fixed before your fights, then it wasn't premeditated now was it?
Let me ask you a direct question Krupinski: Did DrSpek beat you in the final of the last Duelling Bracket?
As far as I'm concerned I could have done better and Spek won the fights, but he did fail to follow the rules by not fixing his problem w/ recording films. If B.E. comes on and confirms a rematch and spek forfeits to that, besides not having all the films which he should, he still won the first round fights, no doubt there.
Now let me ask you a question, did Spek enter the finals knowing he may have trouble filming?
Oh nvm, you already answered that.
I'm not going fishing for quotes, but I'm sure he and DrBone were saying something about both of them having problems saving films, and that it existed before the bracket.
Yes that's correct
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Now let me ask you a question, did Spek enter the finals knowing he may have trouble filming?
Oh nvm, you already answered that.
No he didn't enter knowing there would be problems, he thought it was fixed. I really can't explain it any more clearly than that.
Now please answer my question. Did DrSpek beat you in the finals of the Sixth? You've never commented on that very point.
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No he didn't enter knowing there would be problems, he thought it was fixed. I really can't explain it any more clearly than that.
Now please answer my question. Did DrSpek beat you in the finals of the Sixth? You've never commented on that very point.
Are you actually reading my posts or starring at it blankly trying to figure out how you want to restate what you've already said?
He fixed his recording problem, huh?
Key word in this quote:
several of us attempted to fix the problem and only partially succeeded
This conversation really isn't relevant.
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Krup seriously, you're deliberately trying to be obtuse now perhaps to avoid answering my question. The partial solution was obvious when it was realised he had only recorded some of your fights because his hard drive was full again. I am doing my best to read your posts, please extend me the same courtesy.
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This conversation is very relevant since you are now in exactly the same position Spek was in the Sixth, and yet you thrash around looking for divisive differences between your and his situation.
BaldEagle clearly has a difficult decision to make if this contest is to be considered just and fair for all participants.
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null - already posted above.
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I bet the Mexican cartel has less drama than these dueling brackets.
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Ah, so you DO remember! Thought your memory was as bad as mine
actually I don't remember, but whatever I don't care about living or dying...was it a good fight? that's all I give a crap about.
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Krup, is it your technique to escape answering my question by posting increasingly garbled responses and trying to get me to expend time answering them?
My explanation is I believe clear. Still waiting for yours. Or are you waiting for advice from your advisors?
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You guys are hilarious. :rofl :rofl :rofl :bhead
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, but I'm sure he and DrBone were saying something about both of them having problems saving films, and that it existed before the bracket.
This problem was fixed in the latest patch. This is getting good :rofl
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This problem was fixed in the latest patch. This is getting good :rofl
That it was. :aok
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I bet the Mexican cartel has less drama than these dueling brackets.
:aok
Seriously wanted no drama and good fights this tourney (with film)
I say you all be very quiet until BE can determine whether a missing film by the winner results in something. We all know what happened last time and I believe however absurd the claim jekyll is only pointing out the obvious and you can't flame him for it.
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I bet the Mexican cartel has less drama than these dueling brackets.
Agreed, although they have the option of murdering the opposition. :D
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Agreed, although they have the option of murdering the opposition. :D
:rofl
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Attempting to edit together snippets of someone's previous posts in order to achieve the desired effect and then removing that by editing is not a valid logical argument Krupinski.
Your unwillingness to answer my question: 'Did Spek beat you in the final of the Sixth' is of course an answer in itself. Spek beat you fair and square, you conceded defeat and posted as such. Some other little scamps started suggesting you to dispute on the grounds that Spek did not have a complete set of films. A technicality. You saw this opportunity and took it, when you could have also manned up and said Spek beat you and the films didn't matter (as now others have suggested).
To this day we haven't seen your films of this event. Something troublesome or embarrassing on vox for you perhaps?
Now you find yourself in exactly the same position, The karma of this situation is amusing to say the least, disputed or not, accidentally cancelled or not, you do not have all the films required by the rules, and yet this time round, even though the situation is reversed, you might get let off and Spek got the result stripped. Double standard and hypocrisy for everyone to see.
I wish you success with your future chosen path and hope you get all the 'wins' you are seeking, by any means necessary.
Forgive me if I don't salute.
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Attempting to edit together snippets of someone's previous posts in order to achieve the desired effect and then removing that by editing is not a valid logical argument Krupinski.
Your unwillingness to answer my question: 'Did Spek beat you in the final of the Sixth' is of course an answer in itself. Spek beat you fair and square, you conceded defeat and posted as such. Some other little scamps started suggesting you to dispute on the grounds that Spek did not have a complete set of films. A technicality. You saw this opportunity and took it, when you could have also manned up and said Spek beat you and the films didn't matter (as now others have suggested).
To this day we haven't seen your films of this event. Something troublesome or embarrassing on vox for you perhaps?
Now you find yourself in exactly the same position, The karma of this situation is amusing to say the least, disputed or not, accidentally cancelled or not, you do not have all the films required by the rules, and yet this time round, even though the situation is reversed, you might get let off and Spek got the result stripped. Double standard and hypocrisy for everyone to see.
I wish you success with your future chosen path and hope you get all the 'wins' you are seeking, by any means necessary.
Forgive me if I don't salute.
Dude, this has been posted twice in this thread and I also sent it you in a PM.
As far as I'm concerned I could have done better and Spek won the fights, but he did fail to follow the rules by not fixing his problem w/ recording films. If B.E. comes on and confirms a rematch and spek forfeits to that, besides not having all the films which he should, he still won the first round fights, no doubt there.
Original unedited.
You have a nice day. :aok :salute
Oh and who's post did I edit to mean something other than what was meant?
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Krup and I will continue this conversation via pm unless anyone else interjects.
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Dano, you back playing yet??
Wurz
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They don't want Kazaa's voice on the films if Kazaa accidentally says something. :noid
To this day we haven't seen your films of this event. Something troublesome or embarrassing on vox for you perhaps?
"chop throttle" :noid
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Dano, you back playing yet??
Wurz
Yes he is...he killed me twice last night
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friggin pathetic...just reinforces my thoughts on you few "people"
Did it really need reinforcement? :aok :rofl :lol Karma's a dog.
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Did it really need reinforcement? :aok :rofl :lol Karma's a dog.
I'm confused by karma?
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No Joachim, Babalonian is confused by karma.
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This thread has become classy.
:rofl
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No Joachim, Babalonian is confused by karma.
Im confused with why they say "karma" what did we do?
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Did it really need reinforcement? :aok :rofl :lol Karma's a dog.
I should have just kept my thoughts to myself, one of my many issues....speaking my mind.
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Here, I'll pull a Lusche:
_______________ <- The phew's pretentiousness
______________ <- The joke
______________ <- Average shoulder height of the phew
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Sorry Irish but B.E. made it clear in his previous rulings that the "loser" posting the films don't mitigate the infraction of the rules :aok Believe me there were many who wished that it had.
As the actual winner of the round in question furnished a film it would seem the spirit of the rules has been followed in that the winner posts films so as to prove he did not do anything untoward to win said duel, F3 for example.
Bunch of drama queens, the lot of you.
wrongway
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actually I don't remember, but whatever I don't care about living or dying...was it a good fight? that's all I give a crap about.
Actually yes, 4 merges, 1 guns on for you, 2 guns on for me, and 1 collision, and not a round fired. We had a great little fight there :aok
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As the actual winner of the round in question furnished a film it would seem the spirit of the rules has been followed in that the winner posts films so as to prove he did not do anything untoward to win said duel, F3 for example.
Bunch of drama queens, the lot of you.
wrongway
Good, I have you on quote as saying it it the "spirit of the rules" is what matters. Funny that was my argument as well but to no avail. See what I am talking about here?
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Actually yes, 4 merges, 1 guns on for you, 2 guns on for me, and 1 collision, and not a round fired. We had a great little fight there :aok
that's cool :salute
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I just want to make sure I got my next duel against Midway's FPH garanteed. By the way, the last posted duel bracket board is on page 23.
Actually no, here it is:
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-4.jpg)
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Good, I have you on quote as saying it it the "spirit of the rules" is what matters. Funny that was my argument as well but to no avail. See what I am talking about here?
and BTW, the F3 issue was cleared up with no wrong doing on either end. and wasn't an issue in the previous bracket, nor should it be here
Spirit of the rules being that the films show that the winner won legitimatly.
As Krup lost the round in question, and as Irish has stated over and over, it really doesn't matter.
In the previous "missing film" situation, for all we know, the winner could have been flying in F3 the entire time.
wrongway
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I just want to make sure I got my next duel against Midway's FPH garanteed. By the way, the last posted duel bracket board is on page 23.
Actually no, here it is:
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-4.jpg)
Yup you got bruv! Good luck sir :salute
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Yup you got bruv! Good luck sir :salute
Good panic you mean :eek:
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Good panic you mean :eek:
Get a good warm up, be focused, and eyes on te prize :aok
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Good panic you mean :eek:
:lol
Good Luck, Lepape2. :salute
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Spirit of the rules being that the films show that the winner won legitimatly.
As Krup lost the round in question, and as Irish has stated over and over, it really doesn't matter.
In the previous "missing film" situation, for all we know, the winner could have been flying in F3 the entire time.
wrongway
Come on AWwrgwy, we both know that F3 issue was cleared with no findings on either side and did not even play an issue in any of it. All the films were provided an no F3 mode was used, you know that and to insert it here is uncalled for. And as Krupinski, and DrSpek both stated in the previous bracket, Krup lost the fights and it really didn't matter about the films. My argument is as before, the fights should not have been, nor should they now be, about following the "rules" but about the spirit of the fight and who won or lost as is being argued by you, Krupinski, and Irish here. I am simply making the same argument here as you are I just made them in the last bracket to no avail. Maybe now you can understand "Why" it was so frustrating. These brackets should have been about the spirit of the fight and who was better at the time of the match and won or lost. Not having the winner decided because of a technicality.
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Spirit of the rules being that the films show that the winner won legitimatly.
As Krup lost the round in question, and as Irish has stated over and over, it really doesn't matter.
In the previous "missing film" situation, for all we know, the winner could have been flying in F3 the entire time.
wrongway
well just to set you straight, f3 mode wasn't against the rules in the previous bracket, not that anyone seriously believed it was used
be that as it may, i believe that the previous disqualification was on the simple technicality that Spek did not provide all of his films (he had some, not all). No one disputed the winner of that duel, just as no one is disputing the fact that Krup beat IrishOne.
once you start rulef**king people out of a fairly earned win, you open the door for it to happen again and again in the future...throw honour out the window and we see what the competition devolves to...
another tough job for BE and the rules committee i guess :salute
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Krup and I will continue this conversation via pm unless anyone else interjects.
Do you really think someone would object?
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Krup and I will continue this conversation via pm unless anyone else interjects.
Do you really think someone would object?
www.dictionary.com
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www.dictionary.com
It is my understanding that nrshida is not a native speaker of English and I assumed he meant object. Being that I respect him and did not want to make a big deal out of the misuse of interject (After all, how can someone interject something in a PRIVATE message?) I simply made the correction and was hoping for a brief moment of levity.
Little did I know that my good manners would result in a yellow toofered limey humping my ankle. Shouldn't you be at some government office getting a handout from the queen?
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i believe that the previous disqualification was on the simple technicality that Spek did not provide all of his films (he had some, not all).
wrong, looking back in that results thread shows baldeagle asked that drspek and krupnski redo the final and provide films since he did not feel that taking drspeks win away due to breaking the no films rule for a 2nd time in as many tournament rounds after being forewarned was a good thing for the tournament. baldeagle asked and was going to allow a rematch but drspek forfieted. baldeagle was nice enough to call it a technical forfieture due to no films
once you start rulef**king people out of a fairly earned win, you open the door for it to happen again and again in the future...throw honour out the window and we see what the competition devolves to...
another tough job for BE and the rules committee i guess :salute
nice way to put it when leeway was given 2 to 3 times to drspek yet you call others out as "rulef**king people out of a fairly earned win" when in actuality it appears drspek did it to himself after having been warned 3 times and then given an extra chance to do a rematch on top of it all
i dont see krupnskis and irshones match being a tough job for anyone to rule on since 3 winning round films were posted by the winner of the match. if anything it will probably be a warning for not posting a losing round film that krupnski said he deleted. drspek got away with 4 times worse and was able to continue on to the finals and then even offered a second rematch to right his wrongs but he rejected the offer and baldeagle did what he had to
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It is my understanding that nrshida is not a native speaker of English and I assumed he meant object. Being that I respect him and didn't not want to make a big deal out of the misuse of interject (After all, how can someone interject something in a PRIVATE message?) I simply made the correction and was hoping for a brief moment of levity.
Little did I know that my good manners would result in a yellow toofered limey humping my ankle. Shouldn't you be at some government office getting a handout from the queen?
just as you were trying to help nrshida ( (http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) ), I was trying to help you
The Few GCW at your service :aok
edit: @ MoJoRiZn , that's very true, I had forgotten about the offer of a re-do. Someone should have mentioned that 5 pages ago or linked the old thread ;D
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:lol
Good Luck, Lepape2. :salute
Bruv is no better a dueler than theHIV, don't let reputation put you at a disadvantage before you even start the fight.
Good luck to you both.
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Bruv is no better a dueler than theHIV, don't let reputation put you at a disadvantage before you even start the fight.
Good luck to you both.
Bruv has one of the worst Euroconnections I have ever witnessed so he has some advantage. Too bad they all can't have good connections like u bat.
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i think squad rivalries should be banned from future tournaments.
What rivalry?
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It is my understanding that nrshida is not a native speaker of English blah blah
:rofl
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Bruv has one of the worst Euroconnections I have ever witnessed so he has some advantage. Too bad they all can't have good connections like u bat.
I used to have great connections but I don't need them since I quit smoking da 'erb
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i think squad rivalries should be banned from future tournaments.
It's just banter :aok
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wrong, looking back in that results thread shows baldeagle asked that drspek and krupnski redo the final and provide films since he did not feel that taking drspeks win away due to breaking the no films rule for a 2nd time in as many tournament rounds after being forewarned was a good thing for the tournament. baldeagle asked and was going to allow a rematch but drspek forfieted. baldeagle was nice enough to call it a technical forfieture due to no films
nice way to put it when leeway was given 2 to 3 times to drspek yet you call others out as "rulef**king people out of a fairly earned win" when in actuality it appears drspek did it to himself after having been warned 3 times and then given an extra chance to do a rematch on top of it all
i dont see krupnskis and irshones match being a tough job for anyone to rule on since 3 winning round films were posted by the winner of the match. if anything it will probably be a warning for not posting a losing round film that krupnski said he deleted. drspek got away with 4 times worse and was able to continue on to the finals and then even offered a second rematch to right his wrongs but he rejected the offer and baldeagle did what he had to
So by your thinking Krupinski and Irish should redo the match? I disagree, the fight should stand, as should the original fight between Krupinski and DrSpek. But unfortunately that technical forfieture due to no films gets in the way (against my beliefs I should state). You can't have your cake and eat it to, to borrow the old cliche'. DrSpek did not post the loss then, Krupinski did not post the loss here. Why do we still argue the double standard?
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I used to have great connections but I don't need them since I quit smoking da 'erb
:rofl
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My computer was low on memory which I didn't know of. Therefore the film didn't save as I typed the following into the film box: Krupinski Rd. #. I sincerly hope that this tournament follows the rules and no one gets them bent for any reason.
Can you save films with symbols in it? Maybe that's why your films vanished.
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So by your thinking Krupinski and Irish should redo the match? I disagree,
i never said no such thing. if you are still trying to compare what happened in the last tournament to this one about irishone and krupnski, then you are already heading in the wrong direction. if we go by your opinion then baldeagle should give krupnski 4 trys at that 1 round where he did not post a film for the 1 round he lost, is this what you want? it is not going to change any for the outcome. if you want to compare it to all the chancs drspek got in the last tournament then hell, krupnski, dude, you get 3 more screw ups before baldeagle will really crack down on you, fair is fair, right?
what is it about this squads members? none of them seem to be good at reading comprehension. they all must be wearing the same royal blue colored glasses
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double standard
1.
any code or set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another
The provision for Spek was that he was either not filming his fights or they were getting lost or god knows what. He was allowed to pass a round where no film was provided with a stern warning that he needs to provide films for the next round. Spek once again did not provide films.
The provision for Krup is that he accidentally hit cancel on his film in one round that he lost.
REALLY? This is a "double standard"? :rofl
Nevertheless, I am calling for a rematch of this fight to stay within the "rules" as The Few have so less than eloquently pointed out, if Krup wins the A5 round Krup will advance, if Krup loses the A5 round, Krup will advance. Krup will post the film. Rules are rules. Good catch The Few.
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These brackets should have been about the spirit of the fight and who was better at the time of the match and won or lost. Not having the winner decided because of a technicality.
yeah, that's kinda what i was going for. this thread has pretty much ruined the tournament for me, and all i did was duel. thanks guys.
that last tourny had absolutely nothing to do with me. in fact, i didn't even participate.
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if we go by your opinion then baldeagle should give krupnski 4 trys at that 1 round where he did not post a film for the 1 round he lost, is this what you want?
No I never said no such thing. If I misunderstood what you meant then I misunderstood. I run a successful business, graduated college, and served 24 years as a leader of soldiers, and am quite confident in my reading comprehension. What I said is that the win/lose column should reflect who actually won or lost the fights not be based on a technicality. I'm not sure where you get this 4 fights for one issue out of anything I said. Clearly here you misunderstand me.
The double standard I argue is this; quite clearly. DrSpek did not post films of the fight lost. Krupinski did not post film of the fight he lost. DrSpek was forced to either redo the match or forfeit. The arguments have changed by many because the shoe is on the other foot. My argument has not changed from the previous bracket and that argument is this. The fact that "ALL" films were not posted should not determine the outcome of the match. That outcome should have been determined based on the ability of the best person on the night of the duel and who won, or lost, unless they cheated.
If you want to argue that the rules are applied differently because of the "reason" player X did not follow the rules OK, fair enough that is for BE to decide I would think. I would point out this tho, if you go back to the previous bracket thread you will see that the primary argument against DrSpek was because he did NOT follow the rules and post "ALL" films, the opinions on the "why" varied. So I ask you, do not the same rules apply here if player X does not follow the rules? I'm not going to repost all the rules here that apply, we have all seen them.
I will repeat, I do think Krupinski should retain the win. Same as I think DrSpek should have retained the win in the previous bracket. They both broke the same rule, the reason is immaterial. To argue differently is in my opinion; a double standard.
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yeah, that's kinda what i was going for. this thread has pretty much ruined the tournament for me, and all i did was duel. thanks guys.
that last tourny had absolutely nothing to do with me. in fact, i didn't even participate.
Don't let it be that way for you man, it's all fun and games. Krup shoulda been more vigilant after last time, that is certain. It's hardly the final though. The last two tourneys attracted alot more of The Few than previously, so with their highly competetive reputation it's bound to be drama filled fun. No need to let it spoil anything, drama can't take away your enjoyment of a good fight.
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gents calm down! ! ! !
Why come in this thread and start this non-sense? if someone has a problem with one of the rules being broken PM a review committee or BE. There is no need to drag it out on these forums. all you are going to do is end up getting this thread locked.
I am sure skuzzy has a headache just reading this damn thread.
rest assured that ALL of YOUR complaints about the broken rule is HIGHLY NOTED and will be reviewed when BE gets off of WORK. untill mean time PLEASE let this thread be for what it is stated for
Seventh Tri-Annual Dueling Bracket & Results
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Are you suggesting Humor! :x
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Sweetheartbags. :noid
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Saweet(http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/MGIhome/sweetheartbag.jpg)
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(http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/MGIhome/sweetheartbag.jpg)
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Hey, you stole my bag!
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do you guys share links to purse catalogues?
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeak
(http://www.pursepage.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/tory-burch-lips-tote.jpg)
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Here we go again. :rolleyes:
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Hey, you stole my bag!
I saw it first! :devil :lol
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do you guys share links to purse catalogues?
No, they're standard issue secondary weapons for us.
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karmas a b***h haha.
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DrSpek did not post the loss then, Krupinski did not post the loss here. Why do we still argue the double standard?
DrSpek didn't post any films, win or lose.
Am I remembering it wrong?
wrongway
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No, they're standard issue secondary weapons for us.
:aok :lol
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Same stuff, different day? LOL thought I was going to read up on the fights just for fun. Nothing wrong with competitive. Something just sad about the rest of it though
Just remember you are all cartoon legends of the cartoon skies! :)
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Just remember you are all cartoon legends of the cartoon skies! :)
When I get space that's going in my Sig :aok
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OK STOP.
There are some big differences between this infraction and Spek's infraction from the last tournament. In fact MoJoRiZn nailed it about five pages ago.
In the last tourney Spek was allowed to advance without posting any films. He was warned at that time that films would be required in further rounds. We came to the final and once again he didn't post films. Finally he turned up one film (maybe two) IIRC. Since it was a best of five match for the final there wasn't enough verifiable evidence of his win to allow him to be declared winner especially given the fact he had already been warned on the same issue. The films have to come from the winner as that's the only way you get their actual views and instruments from take off. At that point I gave him another chance to re fight the duels and even added extra time to work out his film issues. He evidently decided not to do that.
In this instance Krupinski posted verifiable films of his three wins (best of five). Posting the loss is not going to make one bit of difference in the outcome of the match.
I try to make the rules as black and white as I can but sometimes a little common sense has to come into play. I will now decide whether to go back and rewrite the rules relevant to this for the next tournament or just make this the last one if no one's going to show up anymore. Thank you very much. This was exactly what I wanted to do for the past hour and a half after my third 14 hour day in a row at work.
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And that's that. :salute
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OK STOP.
There are some big differences between this infraction and Spek's infraction from the last tournament. In fact MoJoRiZn nailed it about five pages ago.
In the last tourney Spek was allowed to advance without posting any films. He was warned at that time that films would be required in further rounds. We came to the final and once again he didn't post films. Finally he turned up one film (maybe two) IIRC. Since it was a best of five match for the final there wasn't enough verifiable evidence of his win to allow him to be declared winner especially given the fact he had already been warned on the same issue. The films have to come from the winner as that's the only way you get their actual views and instruments from take off. At that point I gave him another chance to re fight the duels and even added extra time to work out his film issues. He evidently decided not to do that.
In this instance Krupinski posted verifiable films of his three wins (best of five). Posting the loss is not going to make one bit of difference in the outcome of the match.
I try to make the rules as black and white as I can but sometimes a little common sense has to come into play. I will now decide whether to go back and rewrite the rules relevant to this for the next tournament or just make this the last one if no one's going to show up anymore. Thank you very much. This was exactly what I wanted to do for the past hour and a half after my third 14 hour day in a row at work.
:salute Bald for all your hard work. A shame it spiraled like it did.
Quincy
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:salute it shouldn't have come to this. sorry for your extra trouble BE.
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edit: double post
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I'm glad BE can see right through the BS :salute
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Dear BE your rules were quite clear
- From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
Did Krup post all the films of the duel? No
Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films.
Did Krup fail to post all the films of the duel? Yes
Doesn't matter if he hit cancel or the film didnt save, no matter the outcome of the match, Krup failed to comply to post all the films as required by the rules.
:cheers:
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viper don't concern yourself with this, BE has spoken yet again.
I propose that IF krup and Spek happen to fight each other again and either of them has no film they be permanently banned from participating in future events. This is the crux of the matter everything else is just squaddies backing up their man which is admirable.
Also possibly another rule that no-one posts in this thread apart from BE and the results. :aok
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viper don't concern yourself with this, BE has spoken yet again.
I propose that IF krup and Spek happen to fight each other again and either of them has no film they be permanently banned from participating in future events. This is the crux of the matter everything else is just squaddies backing up their man which is admirable.
Also possibly another rule that no-one posts in this thread apart from BE and the results. :aok
Or one that it is locked to everyone except for BE and that results are commmunicated via PM while ANOTHER thread is created solely for discussion. But there is also a risk that the later gets polluted the same way this one did and scraps the awesome idea the dueling brackets event is. If we all apologize and accept to have a little humility and maturity, maybe this will not be the last one.
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DrSpek didn't post any films, win or lose.
Am I remembering it wrong?
wrongway
Yes, your remembering it wrong, DrSpek had some films, not all films
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Posting the loss is not going to make one bit of difference in the outcome of the match.
I try to make the rules as black and white as I can but sometimes a little common sense has to come into play. I will now decide whether to go back and rewrite the rules relevant to this for the next tournament or just make this the last one if no one's going to show up anymore. Thank you very much. This was exactly what I wanted to do for the past hour and a half after my third 14 hour day in a row at work.
Good, so it isn't about following the rules, glad your clear on that. If you decide to re-write the rules so it follows your decisions that would be great as well. I could care less when you do it.
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wow....this thread is a case study for behavior science experts...very sad.
V/r
Changeup
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I try to make the rules as black and white as I can but sometimes a little common sense has to come into play. I will now decide whether to go back and rewrite the rules relevant to this for the next tournament or just make this the last one if no one's going to show up anymore. Thank you very much. This was exactly what I wanted to do for the past hour and a half after my third 14 hour day in a row at work.
:rofl Eagle, I don;t know what happened cause I did not read it yet, but in my opinion, you do not need to do anything. You have stated your rules and it is up to you to interpret them any way you think is right if there are any gray areas. We may or may not like your decision but guess what, it is your tournament, you spend the time to run it so if anyone is so upset about a call you make they can choose to not join next time. You can;t be doing work every time someone gets upset.
I'll go read and try to find out what happened now :lol
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If this is going to be that kind of party....I'm going to stick my d1ck in the mash taters.
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Who the F cares
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I used to be into sadistic necrophiliac beastiality, but then I realised I was just flogging a dead horse...
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The ruling was made. Stop embarrassing yourselves and the tourney.
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no theres still bone fragments that need to be beaten still. :rolleyes:
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This is really sad... I am very happy Bald Eagle never took me up on my offer to be a judge for this event.
Way too many egos in such a small space of cartoon sky, if I was BE, I'd cancel the event and not look back.
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Complicated rules make things complicated why do you need the film rule to start with? Why not do it like moth and use film at the players digression in case they want to dispute something and then have the review committee review it and pass judgement? Also drop the 10k merge rubbish, I mean who duels over a canyon? The pet hate of any dueller is having a fight decided by a hill or tree.
The less said about the dubious decisions the better imo take away the stupid parts of the rules, it makes every tournament less and less credible.
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This is really sad... I am very happy Bald Eagle never took me up on my offer to be a judge for this event.
Way too many egos in such a small space of cartoon sky, if I was BE, I'd cancel the event and not look back.
QFT
I'm glad I decided not to sign up. Maybe next time. Both the few and the muppets now share the record for beating the most dead horse
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This is really sad... I am very happy Bald Eagle never took me up on my offer to be a judge for this event.
Way too many egos in such a small space of cartoon sky, if I was BE, I'd cancel the event and not look back.
I too think that the tourney should be canceled. You see, I, unlike most of you, am forced to read every post in this thread by a leprechaun that stands on my desk and holds a revolver to my head. What I have read here has thrown me into such a profound state of melancholy that I do not believe I can function any longer. Please remember that there are some of us that don’t have a choice but to read these threads, so when they get nasty, someone is truly being harmed. So please, cancel the tourneys out of consideration for people like me and Del who are forced to read these threads by our leprechauns.
Hey thanks.
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:rofl Eagle, I don;t know what happened cause I did not read it yet, but in my opinion, you do not need to do anything. You have stated your rules and it is up to you to interpret them any way you think is right if there are any gray areas. We may or may not like your decision but guess what, it is your tournament, you spend the time to run it so if anyone is so upset about a call you make they can choose to not join next time. You can;t be doing work every time someone gets upset.
I'll go read and try to find out what happened now :lol
Amen
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Bruv bud they are you guys that are bringing shame to this turny calm them down. i have an idea for the next one i am running by BE and it will solve the problem we have had here on this thread. this will have to be approved by HTC but it will work
i know its not only the Few that are blowing things up everyone LET THE THREAD BE it says RESULTS not DEBATE WHINE AND CRY
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"That they will not be counseled, cannot be helped. If you do not hear reason, she will rap you hard on the knuckles." - Ben Franklin
Cancel it...
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I hope the event keeps going BE the vast majority of results lead to no controversy or ill feeling which shows the true character of the majority involved in the event.
Its a great event and of course it is impossible to please all of the people all of the time but for the sake of those who would rather play than argue i.e. the majority keep it going please :salute.
I am sure allot of other people are gratefull for your efforts also. I dont have to agree with all your decisions to participate in your event and enjoy it.
I hope we can conclude this without any further drama and draw a line under what has gone before.
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Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
My interpretation:
As played out by this rule... Krup, ala the Winning Player, failed to post his loss against Irish. Per this rule, this results in the win being awarded to Krup's opponent, Irish, who then must post his film to secure the win. Irish then posted his film therefore receives the win for that round.
Sunbat's lawyers are still combing through the unabridged list of rules so there may be some terms and conditions that apply to this portion of the rule that I am unaware of.
What is your interpretation JekyII?
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My interpretation:
As played out by this rule... Krup, ala the Winning Player, failed to post his loss against Irish. Per this rule, this results in the win being awarded to Krup's opponent, Irish, who then must post his film to secure the win. Irish then posted his film therefore receives the win for that round.
Sunbat's lawyers are still combing through the unabridged list of rules so there may be some terms and conditions that apply to this portion of the rule that I am unaware of.
What is your interpretation JekyII?
i only have the film of the fight that i won, not all 4, so according to the rules the round would go back to krup within 24 hrs.
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My interpretation:
As played out by this rule... Krup, ala the Winning Player, failed to post his loss against Irish. Per this rule, this results in the win being awarded to Krup's opponent, Irish, who then must post his film to secure the win. Irish then posted his film therefore receives the win for that round.
Sunbat's lawyers are still combing through the unabridged list of rules so there may be some terms and conditions that apply to this portion of the rule that I am unaware of.
What is your interpretation JekyII?
I just got a call from the president of the law firm that I have hired out to interpret and advise on the dueling bracket rules (turns out so many lawyers are needed I am their largest client, hence the call from the president). They have confirmed that Grizz's interpretation is correct.
Irish should advance.
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i only have the film of the fight that i won, not all 4, so according to the rules the round would go back to krup within 24 hrs.
My team of lawyers has decided. No need to worry with it further. Good luck in the next round.
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Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
i dont have the other films, therefore i do not advance. it goes back to krup. there is nothing left of this matter to discuss as far as im concerned
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i dont have the other films, therefore i do not advance. it goes back to krup. there is nothing left of this matter to discuss as far as im concerned
According to that rule (my interpretation anyways) you don't need the other films, just the one in contention, which you posted. Krup validated the other fights per that rule by posting his films. Had you not posted the A5 win, it would go back to Krup so he would have won "4-0".
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My interpretation:
As played out by this rule... Krup, ala the Winning Player, failed to post his loss against Irish. Per this rule, this results in the win being awarded to Krup's opponent, Irish, who then must post his film to secure the win. Irish then posted his film therefore receives the win for that round.
Sunbat's lawyers are still combing through the unabridged list of rules so there may be some terms and conditions that apply to this portion of the rule that I am unaware of.
What is your interpretation JekyII?
Eh, who cares? Rules don't mean much here, the bracket is a joke.
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eh, who cares? Rules don't mean much here. the bracket is a joke.
You do obviously. You posted the rules and went on for a wall of text about rules this rules that. So how do you interpret the rule that you bold faced in your previous post? Different than my interpretation? I hope you interpret it differently because if you do not, your entire crusade was for not.
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:aokThis thread is definitely on the way up. Definitely.
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You do obviously. You posted the rules and went on for a wall of text about rules this rules that. So how do you interpret the rule that you bold faced in your previous post? Different than my interpretation? I hope you interpret it differently because if you do not, your entire crusade was for not.
From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
I don't know, what part of that rule eludes you?
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I too think that the tourney should be canceled. You see, I, unlike most of you, am forced to read every post in this thread by a leprechaun that stands on my desk and holds a revolver to my head. What I have read here has thrown me into such a profound state of melancholy that I do not believe I can function any longer. Please remember that there are some of us that don’t have a choice but to read these threads, so when they get nasty, someone is truly being harmed. So please, cancel the tourneys out of consideration for people like me and Del who are forced to read these threads by our leprechauns.
Hey thanks.
:rofl :rofl
Damn leprechauns.... :
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From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
I don't know, what part of that rule eludes you?
Yes, this is the rule as you posted :
Films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
With that, if the film is not posted, i.g., the rule is broken, then this applies:
Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
So how do you interpret this differently?
And why did you edit out your rules wall of text suddenly after I pointed this out to you? :headscratch:
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i dont have the other films, therefore i do not advance. it goes back to krup. there is nothing left of this matter to discuss as far as im concerned
all that happened was Krup clicked cancel. i do it in haste all the time after i get shot. i made sure i saved the film. some people have issue with this. i cannot do anything about it. all of the film is present. that being said, idgaf who is in what squad. has nothing to do with the Krupnski/IrishOne duel. i lost. i LOST! I LOST!!!!!!!! :bhead
Your honesty is rewarding, as is your willingness to manipulate the rules to fit the desired outcome. Again another reason this bracket is a joke.
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Yes, this is the rule as you posted :
Films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
With that, if the film is not posted, i.g., the rule is broken, then this applies:
Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
So how do you interpret this differently?
And why did you edit out your rules wall of text suddenly after I pointed this out to you? :headscratch:
See above
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If the winner shares enough evidence to prove that he won but neglects to post his losses, should he lose? Even if the two contestants aren't disputing who the victor is? Grizz cited the rule that answers this question.
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QFT
I'm glad I decided not to sign up. Maybe next time. Both the few and the muppets now share the record for beating the most dead horse
We are actually all in the same multiwing megasquad. We do 4 massive PR campaigns a year. Enjoy :aok
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If the winner shares enough evidence to prove that he won but neglects to post his losses, should he lose? Even if the two contestants aren't disputing who the victor is? Grizz cited the rule that answers this question.
Your right, the win should go to the person who fought the best fight and won that duel. Sadly this bracket, BE, and some of the participants now encourages deliberate manipulation and deleting film to assure the rules dictate who wins instead. Another reason this bracket is a joke.
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The ruling has been made. It's done. Why the ongoing tantrum?
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See above
I guess you are throwing in the white flag then. Thanks for playing.
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:edited. nothing good comes from an angry post :aok
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If you don't like something that somebody voluntarily provided for you free of charge (in this case a dueling bracket in which you can compete with other AH players) complaining about it and insulting it is out of line.
Go make your own (and better!) bracket and rules if you like, if it's as good or better than BE's bracket I'll definitely play! :angel:
Any other action is just trolling.
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equally removed
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Jekyll calm down bud and log into Vent :salute
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Moron; nice
I have all 4 films? When? And why would I have the films?
Haven't seen any PM's yet?
Dense: nice
4 films? thought there were 5 fights, all of which were recorded?
again, who cares?
You care it's obvious. why else would you be throwing such a gradeschool tirade about an event you didnt even enter, let it go.
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You care it's obvious. why else would you be throwing such a gradeschool tirade about an event you didnt even enter, let it go.
You can un-mount his ankle now.
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You can un-mount his ankle now.
Sorry, i hump no ones ankle. Sad that everything goes right over you're head, just stay in school and you'll learn more :aok
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4 fights. Krup won 3. he posted all 3. why would you have the films?? because all of them are posted in THIS thread. the fight i won, i posted a film of. IN THIS THREAD. you have a PM from me, i have it saved in outbox if you'd like another copy. and as far as who cares? obviously YOU care. check PMs. this has to stop here.
you are trying to win your point incorrectly, imo, Irish. Try this....
I concede the win to Krup.
Just Krup should have done. See why him taking the win last time made a mockery of the process. Rules are no substitute for lack of character. :salute
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Rules are no substitute for lack of character. :salute
Sig material :aok
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you are trying to win your point incorrectly, imo, Irish. Try this....
I concede the win to Krup.
Just Krup should have done. See why him taking the win last time made a mockery of the process. Rules are no substitute for lack of character. :salute
my concession was krups bullets tearing my airplane apart. we need no more outside voices on this matter. just let it die, please. :salute
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you are trying to win your point incorrectly, imo, Irish. Try this....
I concede the win to Krup.
Just Krup should have done. See why him taking the win last time made a mockery of the process. Rules are no substitute for lack of character. :salute
They are making a stink because they are afraid to fight krup and are using the last bracket as BS to rationalize their behavior. Same stupid hooligan behavior we have grown to expect from that squad.
Carry on.... I've got popcorn...
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LOL, didn't you mean: :rofl :aok :aok bud, bud, :aok :lol :) :O bud?
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LOL, didn't you mean: :rofl :aok :aok bud, bud, :aok :lol :) :O bud?
Sorry bud
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LOL, didn't you mean: :rofl :aok :aok bud, bud, :aok :lol :) :O bud?
Leprechauns got his comment.... fluff'n leprechauns... :D
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Weak trolls. Let this die already :salute
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They are making a stink because they are afraid to fight krup and are using the last bracket as BS to rationalize their behavior. Same stupid hooligan behavior we have grown to expect from that squad.
Carry on.... I've got popcorn...
Ardy you can speak to me, I'm not the squad, the they you speak of is me. Feel free to point to the hooligan behavior, I'm man enough to take accurate criticism and will correct where needed. You be the same.
FYI, I believe my argument is that Krupinski "is" the winner; no? So who needs anyone to concede anything? :salute
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Sorry, i hump no ones ankle. Sad that everything goes right over you're head, just stay in school and you'll learn more :aok
Thanks for the input. My school was 24 years as an Infantry soldier, many of those years at Bragg with 3 1/2 years in combat. But feel free to point me to the school that can help. Although I'm still trying to figure out how Airborne and Ranger school helped.......Jumpmaster yes, I learned how to be humbled.
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Try shutting up.
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Try shutting up.
:bhead
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If Drbone didn't won last bracket with some films missing, how now some can win with not having all films? Seems like rules aren't same for everyone, but BE has spoken.
Fun to see how some take 180 turn in their view when it suits "their" case.
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If Drbone didn't won last bracket with some films missing, how now some can win with not having all films? Seems like rules aren't same for everyone, but BE has spoken.
Fun to see how some take 180 turn in their view when it suits "their" case.
100% correct. Is biased a good word?
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100% correct. Is biased a good word?
you didn't pet the leprechaun....
(http://image03.bizrate-images.com/resize?sq=160&uid=2323201922)
....neither did I and now I'm forced to read the whole thread.
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you didn't pet the leprechaun....
(http://image03.bizrate-images.com/resize?sq=160&uid=2323201922)
....neither did I and now I'm forced to read the whole thread.
<3
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If Drbone didn't won last bracket with some films missing, how now some can win with not having all films? Seems like rules aren't same for everyone, but BE has spoken.
Fun to see how some take 180 turn in their view when it suits "their" case.
Go read BE pst on the matter and catch yourself up. It's a done deal whether we all like it or hate it. It's time to move on :aok
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Go read BE pst on the matter and catch yourself up. It's a done deal whether we all like it or hate it. It's time to move on :aok
Like I said, BE has spoken, you missed it in my long post?
:aok
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I guess so, all I saw was the whine. Did you hear from the Leprechaun by any chance?
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I just took a snapshot of the leprechaun in my living room, questions?
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And all was right with the world again
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Picture thread? Wiz Approves agian.
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I guess so, all I saw was the whine. Did you hear from the Leprechaun by any chance?
Whine? Hehehheheh..... I would call it "opinion".
That 180 turn suits you I see, without looking old bracket posts :aok
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This is my second try at this dueling ladder thingy, I lost in round one both times. I have learned that some of you Gentlemen are very good sticks, and I've learned that some of you very good sticks are not Gentlemen.
I look forward to the next Tournament. Please do not ruin this thing we have here, I would be very dissappointed to see it end.
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Whine? Hehehheheh..... I would call it "opinion".
That 180 turn suits you I see, without looking old bracket posts :aok
:aok :aok :aok :aok I read them, I'm current on the issue. :aok :aok :aok :aok
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I just took a snapshot of the leprechaun in my living room, questions?
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Thats not a leprechaun, thats Silat dressed as a leprechaun... cheater :neener:
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Also drop the 10k merge rubbish, I mean who duels over a canyon? The pet hate of any dueller is having a fight decided by a hill or tree.
Last time I looked there were no trees at 10K. Doesn't a deck merge kind of limit your options or is that the idea?
From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
A purely literal interpretation would assume that the winner of that particular duel would have to post a film of said duel. As such, it would seem the rules were followed to the letter.
The only thing a film of the losing side would show is what you did wrong.
wrongway
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This whole fiasco makes me want to wish that when you click Cancel when the game asks you to save the film it asks, "Are you sure?"
Some of us will get so good at rapidly clicking Yes right after Cancel anyway though, and the only result would be making us feel even MORE stupid for doing so :bhead
EDIT: Oh wait, what if you can have the option to name the film before it even ends? And it could be saved after you press ALT+R or die no matter what? Huh? +1?
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meh.. all I have to say is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-nuGadCi6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-nuGadCi6Q)
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Honestly guys if you don't like the answer BE gave either don't come around for the next one or PM him with a sensible question or suggestion given in a respectable manner. Anything else is not going to be received well and in most cases won't result in the any kind of answer you are seeking.
Respectfully, I also ask that you guys let this die now that BE has spoken. Those of you who are arguing are more than likely reducing the likelihood of another ever taking place.
BE I hope that you don't get discouraged by any of the posts prior to this one I really enjoy these tourney's and have found no reason to not come back next time, in fact you can pre-register me for the position of review committee member for the next and sign me up duel in it now.
These are well run and in all honesty the only change that needs to take place is not one for you to make but others. The change I speak of is for people to leave their disputes of the results for PM's to BE or the committee appointed for this task and to have discussions like the one taking place for other threads. The results thread should be for "results" .
Like I told you before BE, I love being in these tourneys and would be more than willing to help you in any way I can to keep these things going.
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Honestly guys if you don't like the answer BE gave either don't come around for the next one or PM him with a sensible question or suggestion given in a respectable manner. Anything else is not going to be received well and in most cases won't result in the any kind of answer you are seeking.
Respectfully, I also ask that you guys let this die now that BE has spoken. Those of you who are arguing are more than likely reducing the likelihood of another ever taking place.
BE I hope that you don't get discouraged by any of the posts prior to this one I really enjoy these tourney's and have found no reason to not come back next time, in fact you can pre-register me for the position of review committee member for the next and sign me up duel in it now.
These are well run and in all honesty the only change that needs to take place is not one for you to make but others. The change I speak of is for people to leave their disputes of the results for PM's to BE or the committee appointed for this task and to have discussions like the one taking place for other threads. The results thread should be for "results" .
Like I told you before BE, I love being in these tourneys and would be more than willing to help you in any way I can to keep these things going.
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Must I post again....
Leprechauns dammit... Leprechauns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-nuGadCi6Q
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Last time I looked there were no trees at 10K. Doesn't a deck merge kind of limit your options or is that the idea?
wrongway
Deck merge at 23 and 24 would limit your options by forcing one to fight instead of dive on merge and build up speed or one could dive away and run at 10k
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anytime bone anytime. :aok
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A purely literal interpretation would assume that the winner of that particular duel would have to post a film of said duel. As such, it would seem the rules were followed to the letter.
The only thing a film of the losing side would show is what you did wrong.
wrongway
To the letter, a winner would have to post all films of a particular round. The rules on filming pertain to an entire round, not one specific duel in that round.
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To the letter, a winner would have to post all films of a particular round. The rules on filming pertain to an entire round, not one specific duel in that round.
Yes, and if the film of a specific round is not posted, then victory of that particular round is forfeited to the other player as long as the other player posts his film within 24 hours.
Again, Krup "broke" a rule of not posting the film for that round, so by penalty of breaking that rule, the win goes to irish for that round since he posted his film. Just like if you break the high sticking rule in hockey you go sit in the penalty box, you don't get ejected from the game or forfeit your lead.
TJ, read my reply here and explain why this assessment of the situation per the rules is incorrect. This is where JekyII conceded defeat and then edited all of his previous posts that made him look like a fool.
Yes, this is the rule as you posted :
Films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
With that, if the film is not posted, i.g., the rule is broken, then this applies:
Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
So how do you interpret this differently?
And why did you edit out your rules wall of text suddenly after I pointed this out to you? :headscratch:
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Yes, and if the film of a specific round is not posted, then victory of that particular round is forfeited to the other player as long as the other player posts his film within 24 hours.
Again, Krup "broke" a rule of not posting the film for that round, so by penalty of breaking that rule, the win goes to irish for that round since he posted his film. Just like if you break the high sticking rule in hockey you go sit in the penalty box, you don't get ejected from the game or forfeit your lead.
TJ, read my reply here and explain why this assessment of the situation per the rules is incorrect. This is where JekyII conceded defeat and then edited all of his previous posts that made him look like a fool.
You know Grizz, Irish and I decided to let it die. I conceded nothing to your argument nor do I agree with it. Now you want to come on here and pull this crap after I agree with your squad mate? Talk to Irish please, it makes you look like the fool.
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To the letter, a winner would have to post all films of a particular round. The rules on filming pertain to an entire round, not one specific duel in that round.
The punishment should fit the crime.
In case one, player A shouldn't even advance yet it did anyway. He was warned, offended again in final round, still got an option to repeat the round, didn't want to, forfeited instead.
In case two, player B fails to post a film (which he lost anyways), player C posts a film within 24 hours, wins that round per rules (which he won in fair fight so or so), player B still advances because of 3 wins.
Organizer of bracket makes final decision, case closed.
"The Many" cry, yet again.
I know many players from the "Many" and individually they're all decent people. Yet when in pack, somehow they manage to poison otherwise fun events like SDL, KOTH, BE's Dueling Bracket, to name some.
How about you guys live up to the quotes you put in your signatures?
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Grizz, where we're not seeing eye to eye is on the what a "round" is. Correct me if I misunderstand, but it seems as though you feel that since Krup didn't post a film of the 190 "round", he forfeits that "round" to Irish, which gets the same result as actually happened. However, my interpretation is that the winner has to post the films of every duel in that particular round; in this case it is the quarter final "round". I believe that my definition of round is the correct one, as BE even puts "Elimination Round #", etc on the bracket itself. Therefore, if we are going by the letter of the law (which I don't feel should be necessary this time or last time) Krup should forfeit to Irish.
The punishment should fit the crime.
In case one, player A shouldn't even advance yet it did anyway. He was warned, offended again in final round, still got an option to repeat the round, didn't want to, forfeited instead.
In case two, player B fails to post a film (which he lost anyways), player C posts a film within 24 hours, wins that round per rules (which he won in fair fight so or so), player B still advances because of 3 wins.
Organizer of bracket makes final decision, case closed.
"The Many" cry, yet again.
I know many players from the "Many" and individually they're all decent people. Yet when in pack, somehow they manage to poison otherwise fun events like SDL, KOTH, BE's Dueling Bracket, to name some.
How about you guys live up to the quotes you put in your signatures?
While, you are correct that in most cases the punishment should fit the crime, the punishment is clearly laid out in the rules. Failure to post all films in these rounds, including the quarters, results in a forfeit. All films means all four of the duels. The rules do not specify particular duels can be forfeited, rather the entire round.
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Rules are set to avoid certain things. rules are only put in place for guidelines. if HTC lived by their rules to the T then most of this thread would have
see rule #8
or what not and prolly locked.
this will not happen on the next duel. all of you that like to think you can do what ever it is you feel like on this thread will whine next dueling thread.
if you want to keep on going about this subject start a new thread
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even better made one for you
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,315521.0.html
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In case two, player B fails to post a film (which he lost anyways), player C posts a film within 24 hours, wins that round per rules (which he won in fair fight so or so), player B still advances because of 3 wins.
So let me understand you, 1, if players post films of the wins only that fits the rules? 2. if the other loser posts within 24 hours it fits the requirements for the winner posting and fits the rules? 3. Player B won fair and square however player A did not? 4. the winner advances because of 3 wins?
I just want to get your post right.
I am not many, I am one, feel free to address me instead of playing to the crowd.
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Rules are set to avoid certain things. rules are only put in place for guidelines.
Glad you cleared that up for me, who died and made you God?
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Glad you cleared that up for me, who died and made you God?
no one can replace God.
well except Slash maybe
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So let me understand you, 1, if players post films of the wins only that fits the rules? 2. if the other loser posts within 24 hours it fits the requirements for the winner posting and fits the rules? 3. Player B won fair and square however player A did not? 4. the winner advances because of 3 wins?
I just want to get your post right.
I am not many, I am one, feel free to address me instead of playing to the crowd.
did you not read
even better made one for you
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,315521.0.html
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While, you are correct that in most cases the punishment should fit the crime, the punishment is clearly laid out in the rules. Failure to post all films in these rounds, including the quarters, results in a forfeit. All films means all four of the duels. The rules do not specify particular duels can be forfeited, rather the entire round.
So let me understand you, 1, if players post films of the wins only that fits the rules? 2. if the other loser posts within 24 hours it fits the requirements for the winner posting and fits the rules? 3. Player B won fair and square however player A did not? 4. the winner advances because of 3 wins?
I just want to get your post right.
From the rules:
Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
This can be interpreted as "win" meaning round or a duel. It's also said that when rules are open to interpretation, review committee can rule either way. BE is part of it. He ruled.
Another rule:
Any player caught breaking the rules twice in any tournament will be automatically ejected from the tournament.
This one is crystal clear.
No need to :cry anymore.
I am not many, I am one, feel free to address me instead of playing to the crowd.
For a one you definitely create a lot of noise.
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did you not read
Read, don't care
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Another rule you didn't mention: From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
This rule is very clear. In this case, the films of all duels in the round were not posted.
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From the rules:
Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films. Failure of the opponent to post films within 24 hours of such a determination will result in the original winner being reinstated.
This can be interpreted as "win" meaning round or a duel. It's also said that when rules are open to interpretation, review committee can rule either way. BE is part of it. He ruled.
Another rule:
Any player caught breaking the rules twice in any tournament will be automatically ejected from the tournament.
This one is crystal clear.
No need to :cry anymore.
For a one you definitely create a lot of noise.
you conveniently left out the "all" part. Certainly helps it fit your interpretation. I ask questions to clarify, feel like answering? I ask fairly no malice intended.
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Read, don't care
well that is obvious, but if you don't care why did you start this cesspool to begin with some odd 10 pages back with Reply # 389. you must have a dog in this hunt somewhere even though you are not even entered in this event. which is it btw did you lead soldiers for 24 years or you was a soldier for 24 years, you seemed to have contradicted yor own original statement a few pages back.
and kilz is on the review committe for baldeagle. i think he deserves the chance to try and redirect this poo poo to a different thread since this thread is only for scheduling and results i do believe
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From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward.
This rule is very clear. In this case, the films of all duels in this round were not posted.
You guys really like to argue.
Violations of the official tournament rules as stated could constitute grounds for expulsion from the tournament.
This is a bit different than:
Any player caught breaking the rules twice in any tournament will be automatically ejected from the tournament.
It has been ruled. Krup was declared winner of round with Irish. Live with it.
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You guys really like to argue.
I :lol ed
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My £0.02,
I think films should only come into it when a result is in question ( As in KOTH )
In this case (and the previous case) results were not in question, the rules were.
Surely the result is the primary concern..
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well that is obvious, but if you don't care why did you start this cesspool to begin with some odd 10 pages back with Reply # 389. you must have a dog in this hunt somewhere even though you are not even entered in this event. which is it btw did you lead soldiers for 24 years or you was a soldier for 24 years, you seemed to have contradicted yor own original statement a few pages back.
and kilz is on the review committe for baldeagle. i think he deserves the chance to try and redirect this poo poo to a different thread since this thread is only for scheduling and results i do believe
To clarify I was a soldier for 24 years, a leader for 22, sorry I didn't make that clear for you. If you want to question my service I will be glad to point you to the right people to question. I even served with some of the people playing on here. You want to question my 3 CIB's or my combat tours, my Bronze Stars, or my LOM, etc. feel free. You want to question the accounts of some of my friends and soldiers who died to give you the freedom to question my service, feel free. I never contradicted my statement.
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chest thump much?
you never answered my question, why did you start this mess, do you have a dog in this hunt
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Gentlemen:
When in the course of human events an argument continues for it own sake and it requires any of the participants to recite their personal military awards or resume's of leadership in a company OR branch of service to this great Nation....its time invoke the "THIS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF FREAKING CONTROL.... ITS A GAWDDAM GAME" rule.
Think troll before you type another word please...and lets cancel this or get on with it...geezus...its BEYOND REPAIR ALREADY...let BE do his thing for Christsakes.
V/r
Changeup (guy who loses in the first or second round EVERY DAM TIME) :salute
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"From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward. This also allows for film study by those hoping to improve their skills. Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films"
Krup would not be expelled from the tournament. Rather, as per the rules, he would forfeit.
In general, I would say Spek should have won last tournament, and Krup should win this round. However, when a rule is enforced, regardless of the degree, it should be enforced to all.
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geezz this one dont stop does he. all i have let to say is IN
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chest thump much?
you never answered my question, why did you start this mess, do you have a dog in this hunt
You want to question my service then back off with a "chest thump" when I answer? Heck yes I will, I think I and many others have deserved it.
My dog in this hunt is, and always was, to get the rules changed to meet the very spirit of the bracket, and to have the rules enforced evenly. Nothing more nothing less. Which is exactly, and consistently what I have posted.
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chest thump much?
He clearly is telling you the facts :salute
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You want to question my service then back off with a "chest thump" when I answer? Heck yes I will, I think I and many others have deserved it.
My dog in this hunt is, and always was, to get the rules changed to meet the very spirit of the bracket, and to have the rules enforced evenly. Nothing more nothing less. Which is exactly, and consistently what I have posted.
i did not question your service, i asked which was it 24 yrs leading or 24 yrs soldiering. big difference in questioning and asking for a clarification
ok, ithough your dog was your squadmate ace-drspek who baldeagle bent over backwards and let him slide by the automatic disqualification after breaking the rules 2 times and then even gave him time to fix his theoretical problem and then offered him additionally a chance to a do over
how in this world is that even remotely evenly fair to krupnskis missing one film of 1 rd he lost out of the 4 rounds he dueled and won 3 of and provided films for the 3 he won. the only way any of you many few will be happy is if baldeagle makes krupnski forfiet or if baldeagle disqualifies krupnski. you many few will not accept anything less because you feel like your dog ace was wronged in the last tournament yet baldeagle wanted a final to be solid and broke his own rules to allow as much leeway as possible for ace-spek
thanks for serving for my freedom, being humble will get you more respect than chest thumping i guarantee ya
good luck to the rest involved in the remaining duels
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"From the quarterfinal round forward results must be verifiable therefore films must be posted by the winning player for all duels from that round forward. This also allows for film study by those hoping to improve their skills. Failure of the winning player to post films in these rounds will result in the win being awarded to that player’s opponent who must then post their films"
Krup would not be expelled from the tournament. Rather, as per the rules, he would forfeit.
Thank you for your legal expertise. If you want to appeal to BE's final rulling (at: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,314010.msg4094963.html#msg4094963 ), go for it.
See you in Supreme Court.
In general, I would say Spek should have won last tournament, and Krup should win this round. However, when a rule is enforced, regardless of the degree, it should be enforced to all.
Taking part in tournament is voluntary. There are rules and how they're interpreted is up to BE and review committee. Anybody not liking the way it is/was shouldn't take part and even less, argue about it.
Is that simple.
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We had films in this game? :huh
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Wow, just when I thought the Leprechaun was killed and we could all rest from this thread... he returns....
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Rules are set to avoid certain things. rules are only put in place for guidelines. if HTC lived by their rules to the T then most of this thread would have or what not and prolly locked.
this will not happen on the next duel. all of you that like to think you can do what ever it is you feel like on this thread will whine next dueling thread.
if you want to keep on going about this subject start a new thread
I think you guys should hit up HTC for a private forum for the next tourney if there is one. Maybe help stop this crap.
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I think a lot of people are forgetting the second part of the rule. So Krup didn't post all films, he posted 3. Ok, so Irish wins as long as he posts films within 24 hrs. He posts 1. Doesn't the rule state that if the second person doesn't post the films then it reverts back to the original which means Krup? Or is all of this a reason to argue over nothing? Looks to me that if we want to follow the rules to the letter, then the correct answer by B.E. was given.
Let it die people.
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Ten pages today alone, holy toejam Batman.
The ruling was made. Stop embarrassing yourselves and the tourney.
Imagine reading this post and then the next several pages made thereafter in one read. :rofl :lol :bhead :ahand
BE, the pigs owe you a case of beer sometime, I salute you sir!
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Thank you for your legal expertise. If you want to appeal to BE's final rulling (at: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,314010.msg4094963.html#msg4094963 ), go for it.
See you in Supreme Court.
What do you think I've been doing for the last few pages? I'm arguing because I feel his ruling directly contradicts his own rules and his prior ruling on the subject. He held Spek accountable on this rule. Even though he offered a second chance, the rule was still enforced. In this case, it is simply being ignored. That's all there is to it. If a rematch was offered, that would be fair and consistent.
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You step in the stream but water has moved on.
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Can you save films with symbols in it? Maybe that's why your films vanished.
If he tried to save a film using symbols, he would have received an error message.
ack-ack
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Did not BE who organizes this thing ask folks to stop 8-9 pages ago?
Let it go gents. As mentioned, you are all cartoon legends. Who cares? Since Irish doesn't care in particular, why continue the debate?
How about appreciating that BE set it up, and that 99.9 percent of the participants are enjoying themselves, and aren't basing their real world self esteem on this thing and move on?
You don't like how BE is running the thing then don't participate. It seems to never fail that when someone in the community takes time to put some energy into trying to do something different, and for the community, that a small segment of that same community will go out of their way to find fault with it or whine about it. Shut up and play, or don't play as the case may be.
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(DELETE - By posting I perpetuate.)
Boo
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You step in the stream but water has moved on.
It's evident that you cannot justify his ruling anymore. My work here is done.
EDIT: I greatly respect BE for all of his hard work in running such a large tournament. However, this isn't the Soviet Union. People should be allowed to disagree with certain aspects and/or rules if they feel that it would prove beneficial for the tournament as a whole. Personally, I think that the ruling was inconsistent with his last ruling and have pointed it out and justified my stance.
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Sunbat, can I borrow your lawyers?
Clearly different people are interpreting the rules in different ways and in ways I hadn't anticipated. This is, in turn, an insufficiency on my part in writing the rules to begin with. My appologies to all for my insufficiencies. This is just the type of argument the rules were meant to prevent.
Given the fact that the current rules, as written, are open to interpretation, I ruled in a way that I thought was fair and honest and in keeping with the spirit of a tournament meant to be fun. It seems pretty clear to me that Krupinski posted films of three wins. Since the round is best of five I would interpret that to be a win, particularily since his opponent is not disputing it. Note that this is in the spirit of the tournament... having fun and that that same standard was not met by Spek in the last tournament. Even if IrishOne was disputing it, he's already said he only has film of the one fight he won. Since he wouldn't be able to post the films (held to the same standard Krupinski is being held to) the win would still flip back to Krupinski (by the rules).
I'll revise the rules again and may enlist a rules committee to help and to help in interpretation in future events. I really detest having to add rules to an already over bloated rules document but every tournament someone else forces my hand. It's sad really that people can't just take it for what it is and have fun with it.
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Sunbat, can I borrow your lawyers?
Clearly different people are interpreting the rules in different ways and in ways I hadn't anticipated. This is, in turn, an insufficiency on my part in writing the rules to begin with. My appologies to all for my insufficiencies. This is just the type of argument the rules were meant to prevent.
Given the fact that the current rules, as written, are open to interpretation, I ruled in a way that I thought was fair and honest and in keeping with the spirit of a tournament meant to be fun. It seems pretty clear to me that Krupinski posted films of three wins. Since the round is best of five I would interpret that to be a win, particularily since his opponent is not disputing it. Note that this is in the spirit of the tournament... having fun and that that same standard was not met by Spek in the last tournament. Even if IrishOne was disputing it, he's already said he only has film of the one fight he won. Since he wouldn't be able to post the films (held to the same standard Krupinski is being held to) the win would still flip back to Krupinski (by the rules).
I'll revise the rules again and may enlist a rules committee to help and to help in interpretation in future events. I really detest having to add rules to an already over bloated rules document but every tournament someone else forces my hand. It's sad really that people can't just take it for what it is and have fun with it.
When you say that standard was not met by Spek what do you mean?
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Don't do it BE. If folks participating can't see your intent and trust your judgment, they should not be involved.
While I don't participate in it, I do appreciate what you are doing for the community, hosting this thing. And I enjoy watching the results and seeing how the majority of players handle winning and losing with respect and class.
don't rewrite anything for the minority. They either need to adjust their understanding of what this is about, or not participate in it.
Throwing in a bloated rule book and a rules committee just adds more layers that can be complained about or used as an excuse.
I have to believe that those 99 percent of the players involved don't need or expect you to have to put even more work into this for a very few that just don't get it.
Thank you for organizing and hosting this event for the AH community
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Don't do it BE. If folks participating can't see your intent and trust your judgment, they should not be involved.
While I don't participate in it, I do appreciate what you are doing for the community, hosting this thing. And I enjoy watching the results and seeing how the majority of players handle winning and losing with respect and class.
don't rewrite anything for the minority. They either need to adjust their understanding of what this is about, or not participate in it.
Throwing in a bloated rule book and a rules committee just adds more layers that can be complained about or used as an excuse.
I have to believe that those 99 percent of the players involved don't need or expect you to have to put even more work into this for a very few that just don't get it.
Thank you for organizing and hosting this event for the AH community
i second thy motion of corkyjr
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First of all, you mention a standard that was not met by Spek. However, no such standard exists in the rules. Secondly, you talked about Irish not posting his films. In the rules, it states that the opponent would have 24 hours to post films after a determination was made that the winner didn't post all films of a round. In this case, no such determination stating that Krup would forfeit (If Irish posted the films) was made. This is the crux of why I feel your ruling contradicts your own rules. Whether Irish would have deferred is irrelevant. Lastly, thanks for taking the time of day to respond.
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I have to believe that those 99 percent of the players involved don't need or expect you to have to put even more work into this for a very few that just don't get it.
Thank you for organizing and hosting this event for the AH community
+1 to this whole quote
but just need to add this
You know the stupid thing about this.....is they do....they just want to thump...and it is sad.
<S> BE
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Don't do it BE. If folks participating can't see your intent and trust your judgment, they should not be involved.
While I don't participate in it, I do appreciate what you are doing for the community, hosting this thing. And I enjoy watching the results and seeing how the majority of players handle winning and losing with respect and class.
don't rewrite anything for the minority. They either need to adjust their understanding of what this is about, or not participate in it.
Throwing in a bloated rule book and a rules committee just adds more layers that can be complained about or used as an excuse.
I have to believe that those 99 percent of the players involved don't need or expect you to have to put even more work into this for a very few that just don't get it.
Thank you for organizing and hosting this event for the AH community
What the bomber piot said ^
You're doing fine with this BE and your effort is appreciated. Don't let the bs lead to more rules. That's more like being at work.
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When you say that standard was not met by Spek what do you mean?
would guesstimate that it was because first a review commitee member had to ask you to post films for the 1/4 finals of the last tournament. then next you did not post films or not all films of the semi finals. 3rd you again for a 2nd time had trouble trying to follow the directions of posting films for the finals. baldeagle gave you leeway, baldeagle gave you 3 to 4 chances to correct your malfunctions and to do a rematch. you insisted to not follow any warnings and continued to do it your way instead of the way everyone else has participated by the rules that were and have been set forth to follow. now you and the many few insist on continueing to barrage baldeagle and others that you was not treated fairly and that it is unjust what ended the last tournament. do you understand now
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ALL OF YOU.... SHUT THE F*** UP!....
and get back to playing the game.
More of you are on the BBS right now than in the arenas....fn christ.
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would guesstimate that it was because first a review commitee member had to ask you to post films for the 1/4 finals of the last tournament. then next you did not post films or not all films of the semi finals. 3rd you again for a 2nd time had trouble trying to follow the directions of posting films for the finals. baldeagle gave you leeway, baldeagle gave you 3 to 4 chances to correct your malfunctions and to do a rematch. you insisted to not follow any warnings and continued to do it your way instead of the way everyone else has participated by the rules that were and have been set forth to follow. now you and the many few insist on continueing to barrage baldeagle and others that you was not treated fairly and that it is unjust what ended the last tournament. do you understand now
Not everyone has followed the rules. That's why we're where we are now. Please read a previous post.
What do you think I've been doing for the last few pages? I'm arguing because I feel his ruling directly contradicts his own rules and his prior ruling on the subject. He held Spek accountable on this rule. Even though he offered a second chance, the rule was still enforced. In this case, it is simply being ignored. That's all there is to it. If a rematch was offered, that would be fair and consistent.
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Sunbat, can I borrow your lawyers?
U can but I would be happy to offer you legal advice pro bono. Here is a sample from my extensive portfolio that proves my qualifications for a case such as this one. :D
I would like to play out a bit of a thought experiment before the community. Before I go any further I would like to point out that I am a member of the Muppets and a member of the AvA squad “Winning” which just so happens to have several members of the Few including DrSpek so I am once removed from being a Few member; therefore, I myself am best qualified to impartially represent both sides and make the best argument possible for both sides.
This is a courtroom drama "thought experiment" where SunBat Muppet is going to argue against DrSpek’s being declared the winner of the tournament and SunBat Winning will argue for DrSpek being declared the winner. Without any further adieu:
Bailiff: All rise.
(BE enters)
Bailiff: Be seated.
SunBat Muppet: Your honor, for my opening argument, I would like to point out that the rules clearly state that duels from the quaterfinals forward in your tournament shall be filmed by both parties. Dr. Spek did not follow this rule. He broke this rule not once but twice. Your rules state clearly that if rules are not followed two times in the tournament it results in a DQ. I love Grizz. I hump his ankle. Jeeps suck. AoM pwns you….
BE: Thank you SunBat Muppet, that will be all. SunBat Winning, please state your case.
SunBat Winning: :aok :D :banana: :aok :aok
(Awkward silence.)
BE: SunBat Winning, I feel that I must remind you that you must use actual words when you speak to the court and cannot only use emoticons. There are more of us here than just your fellow squad mates.
SunBat Winning: {Spoken in Thick English Accent} Oh yes, so sorry, tut, tut. Tally Ho old boy, Bob’s your uncle and what not! I would like some pot noodle pardon me I think I may have some in the boot of my car. I’ll just pop out and pop back in. Cheerio.
BE: SunBat Winning, please remain in the courtroom and state your case or I will be forced to declare a mistrial.
SunBat Winning: {Several sentences are spoken, then stricken from the record as official EDITS} He wasn’t in F3 mode and it doesn’t say all films have to be presented. That’s all.
{An attempt was made to EDIT again but BE denied the request.}
BE: Thank you SunBat Winning. SunBat Muppet what say you?
SunBat Muppet: I hate Slash and the rest of my squaddies but especially Slash and I want Yenny booted.
(Disarray breaks out in the courtroom as the Muppets get in a fight amongst themselves. Akak and Corky can be heard in the corner scoffing at the ruckus and stating that the time the BK’s were in court was so much better.)
BE: ORDER! ORDER!! What does that have to do with anything SunBat Muppet? State your case or sit down and I will give the floor to Mr. Winning.
SunBat Muppet: Well the rules say that all duels must be filmed so SunBat Winning’s argument is invalid. I love Grizz. I hump his ankle. Jeeps suck. AoM pwns you….
BE: Thank you SunBat Muppet, that will be all. SunBat Winning, please make your closing argument.
SunBat Winning: I would like to make several statements about F3 mode not being used, batfink being a hater, Krup not having nuts, I would like to restate the fact that films were presented and then edit all of those statements and then I will make my final statement a period.
BE: A period?
SunBat Winning: Yes, a period. Like this .
BE: Thank you, I will adjourn the court until later when I will return to make my final, final ruling.
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Ah yes, I remember why I don't play anymore. :aok
(Nothing against you BE, wish you wouldn't have to go through this for every tournament)
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Wow, just when I thought the Leprechaun was killed and we could all rest from this thread... he returns....
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:rofl
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Ah yes, I remember why I don't play anymore. :aok
(Nothing against you BE, wish you wouldn't have to go through this for every tournament)
Is that leprechaun makin' you read this too, fud?
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When you say that standard was not met by Spek what do you mean?
In the last tournament, after being warned about it and for the final no less, you posted one film. Some time later you came back with a second film. Since the round was best of five that wasn't enough to support your win. Had you posted three winning films in that tournament I most likely would have supported your victory but you didn't meet the minimum requirement of being able to substantiate a best of five.
If Krupinski had posted two winning films and one losing film this week I would have awarded the win to IrishOne without question asking him to post all of his films but I see no reason to take Krupinsli's win from him when he did meet at least a minimum standard to prove he won the round.
I'm really not trying to break my own rules nor am I biased for or against anyone. I'm only trying to be fair using common sense. I really did feel bad about the way the last tournament ended and tried my hardest to bring it to a successful conclusion without having to rule on it.
We also have a noon Sunday deadline to get fights in but I routinely grant extensions if I feel it's in the best interest of the tournament. I'm sure that will be another issue in the future but more people benefit by it so few complain about it.
As I've always said, I'm absolutely impartial in my decisions and I'll always try my hardest to be fair and to provide as much leeway as I can but sometimes a line has to be drawn in the sand. I'd like to point out that I even sided against myself to the review committee in my fights with Ink a few tournaments ago. I will work with every player, even if I bend a rule slightly to do so, until it becomes a detriment to the tournament. If I always followed the letter of the rules half of every round would be forfeits.
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If you're going to add rules to the event, add this one.
Any unsportsmanlike conduct, or arguing rules with Baldeagle or his team of judges, will be grounds for immediate removal from the event and possible future events.
I'm betting you won't see many more dead horse beating contests, if you do, Skuzzy can ban them from the forums for the remainder of the event as well.
edit: thinking about it, how come Baldeagle hasn't been offered a CM spot? He designed, manages, and runs an event that keeps lots (ok, MOST) players happy.
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If you're going to add rules to the event, add this one.
Any unsportsmanlike conduct, or arguing rules with Baldeagle or his team of judges, will be grounds for immediate removal from the event and possible future events.
I'm betting you won't see many more dead horse beating contests, if you do, Skuzzy can ban them from the forums for the remainder of the event as well.
Yep.
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I'm really not trying to break my own rules nor am I biased for or against anyone. I'm only trying to be fair using common sense. I really did feel bad about the way the last tournament ended and tried my hardest to bring it to a successful conclusion without having to rule on it.
Don't feel bad, nobody forced Spek to cop out of the rematch making it the first ever round decided by technical DQ in the nearly three years of your fabulous creation.
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If you're going to add rules to the event, add this one.
Any unsportsmanlike conduct, or arguing rules with Baldeagle or his team of judges, will be grounds for immediate removal from the event and possible future events.
I'm betting you won't see many more dead horse beating contests, if you do, Skuzzy can ban them from the forums for the remainder of the event as well.
No need to use Gestapo like tactics when running this tourney. While I still don't agree with his ruling, he's explained it and that does more than just kicking everyone involved at the drop of a hat, imo.
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No need to use Gestapo like tactics when running this tourney. While I still don't agree with his ruling, he's explained it and that does more than just kicking everyone involved at the drop of a hat, imo.
Three Tourney's in a row......either the "Elite" are not that Elite. Or yes, a "follow the rules or GTFO" rule should be implemented.
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Lots of leprechauns holding players whom have never participated in this thing hostage. :D
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Don't feel bad, nobody forced Spek to cop out of the rematch making it the first ever round decided by technical DQ in the nearly three years of your fabulous creation.
Cop out? I beat him fair the first time. No need for a rematch I felt that I was cheated out of the win but the past is the past and this is a game..
*this is no offense to BE he had to make a decision and he does a fine job at this tourney- end of edit
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In the last tournament, after being warned about it and for the final no less, you posted one film. Some time later you came back with a second film. Since the round was best of five that wasn't enough to support your win. Had you posted three winning films in that tournament I most likely would have supported your victory but you didn't meet the minimum requirement of being able to substantiate a best of five.
If Krupinski had posted two winning films and one losing film this week I would have awarded the win to IrishOne without question asking him to post all of his films but I see no reason to take Krupinsli's win from him when he did meet at least a minimum standard to prove he won the round.
I'm really not trying to break my own rules nor am I biased for or against anyone. I'm only trying to be fair using common sense. I really did feel bad about the way the last tournament ended and tried my hardest to bring it to a successful conclusion without having to rule on it.
We also have a noon Sunday deadline to get fights in but I routinely grant extensions if I feel it's in the best interest of the tournament. I'm sure that will be another issue in the future but more people benefit by it so few complain about it.
As I've always said, I'm absolutely impartial in my decisions and I'll always try my hardest to be fair and to provide as much leeway as I can but sometimes a line has to be drawn in the sand. I'd like to point out that I even sided against myself to the review committee in my fights with Ink a few tournaments ago. I will work with every player, even if I bend a rule slightly to do so, until it becomes a detriment to the tournament. If I always followed the letter of the rules half of every round would be forfeits.
BE is fair and using good judgement. It is the fights and the resolution of who won them and proof thereof that is the intent. This tournament should be about who the best fighter is, not who is the best rule manipulator / interpreter. Krup obviously won his and could prove it. DrSpec didn't obviously win since he couldn't provide the proof. Seems simple to me and you can't get a better judge on this than BE from what I'm seeing.
:salute
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OK BE put it this way at the top of the rules:
"Participation in this Tournament is voluntary. My organizing and running of this Tournament is also voluntary. This was done as a way to give something back to Aces High and the community of players. That being said, part of my putting the time and effort into this, also places me in the position of making the final call on what goes on within the Tournament. If you are uncomfortable with this, I suggest you do not participate. There is an expectation of respect and fair play on each of the participants. I can promise you that is what you will get from me as organizer of this event. If you cannot accept these expectations, it would be in your best interest not to participate. Remember it's a game and we're here to test our skills against each other and have fun."
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Three Tourney's in a row......either the "Elite" are not that Elite. Or yes, a "follow the rules or GTFO" rule should be implemented.
IIRC, the Fifth one was with me and Grizz and was a good experience for all. There was some banter, but no rule complaints, etc. In the last tourney there was a dispute about a rule that ended in a ruling by BE. In this instance, there was also a ruling that, imo, contradicted his last. I didn't start the fire, but I definately fanned the flames. BE came in, explained his decision, and hopefully will end this once and for all. The whole thing escalated in both instances because of squaddies sticking up for other squaddies. I think it has less to do with an elitist mentality and more to do with loyalty than anything else. Therefore, I think BE handling it maturely is much better than the GTFO policy.
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IIRC, the Fifth one was with me and Grizz and was a good experience for all. There was some banter, but no rule complaints, etc. In the last tourney there was a dispute about a rule that ended in a ruling by BE. In this instance, there was also a ruling that, imo, contradicted his last. I didn't start the fire, but I definately fanned the flames. BE came in, explained his decision, and hopefully will end this once and for all. The whole thing escalated in both instances because of squaddies sticking up for other squaddies. I think it has less to do with an elitist mentality and more to do with loyalty than anything else. Therefore, I think BE handling it maturely is much better than the GTFO policy.
Man, its some evil leprechaun. It got TJ too
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This will be my last post here that doesnt involve congratulating a pair for fighting....
Cop out? I beat him fair the first time. No need for a rematch I felt that I was cheated out of the win but the past is the past and this is a game..
Being DQ'ed is worse than having to rematch. All you did was drape even more suspision around yourself by not accepting a rematch.
IIRC, the Fifth one was with me and Grizz and was a good experience for all. There was some banter, but no rule complaints, etc. In the last tourney there was a dispute about a rule that ended in a ruling by BE. In this instance, there was also a ruling that, imo, contradicted his last. I didn't start the fire, but I definately fanned the flames. BE came in, explained his decision, and hopefully will end this once and for all. The whole thing escalated in both instances because of squaddies sticking up for other squaddies. I think it has less to do with an elitist mentality and more to do with loyalty than anything else. Therefore, I think BE handling it maturely is much better than the GTFO policy.
With all due respect, and I do respect you, that is a very childish form of loyalty Joey. My Squad are all incredibly loyal to each other, yet when one of us gets in a heated debate on the forums the rest do not pile in. Firstly because we are mature adults who respect each others ability to fight out own battles and secondly because our loyalty to each other is not required to be publicised to feel valuable. I think you will find that dog pilling onto each other's arguements is just about the most immature concept of loyalty one could aspire to.
Over and Out.... *click*
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Thats why we threw you in the trash... :neener:
... or was it the leprechaun that did... and now you need attention to get help out?
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IIRC, the Fifth one was with me and Grizz and was a good experience for all. There was some banter, but no rule complaints, etc. In the last tourney there was a dispute about a rule that ended in a ruling by BE. In this instance, there was also a ruling that, imo, contradicted his last. I didn't start the fire, but I definately fanned the flames. BE came in, explained his decision, and hopefully will end this once and for all. The whole thing escalated in both instances because of squaddies sticking up for other squaddies. I think it has less to do with an elitist mentality and more to do with loyalty than anything else. Therefore, I think BE handling it maturely is much better than the GTFO policy.
The "Squaddies sticking up for the Squaddies" aspect is the biggest issue so far. Even the "Wtg's", just stop doing it altogether. Use your Squad Forums for back-slapping. Keep the "Tourney Thread", clean, crisp and concise.
Tony, the "chest thumping" meter was broken about 20 pages ago in this thread. It is implied with most of the posts, even you're not this naive.
But honestly, it appears some cannot follow simple rules and have done it a couple of times (not directed at one person either). It is really simple, either follow the rules of don't sign up. If you want to "try and see how much you can bend the rules, or see how much ground you can take", don't sign up. But damn, that Name in Lights is a tough thing to ignore.
I was on the Review Committee for a couple of these. The same people, the same issues. Sooner or later, you have to cut your losses and move on without them. This is not that difficult of a concept to grasp and will result in a more smooth Tourney. My point? BE shouldn't have to make a "decision". The participants should just follow the guidelines/rules and tow their line.
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This will be my last post here that doesnt involve congratulating a pair for fighting....
Being DQ'ed is worse than having to rematch. All you did was drape even more suspision around yourself by not accepting a rematch.
With all due respect, and I do respect you, that is a very childish form of loyalty Joey. My Squad are all incredibly loyal to each other, yet when one of us gets in a heated debate on the forums the rest do not pile in. Firstly because we are mature adults who respect each others ability to fight out own battles and secondly because our loyalty to each other is not required to be publicised to feel valuable. I think you will find that dog pilling onto each other's arguements is just about the most immature concept of loyalty one could aspire to.
Over and Out.... *click*
I'm definately advocating it, just analysing it; both sides are guilty of it, no doubt.
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This will be my last post here that doesnt involve congratulating a pair for fighting....
Being DQ'ed is worse than having to rematch. All you did was drape even more suspision around yourself by not accepting a rematch.
With all due respect, and I do respect you, that is a very childish form of loyalty Joey. My Squad are all incredibly loyal to each other, yet when one of us gets in a heated debate on the forums the rest do not pile in. Firstly because we are mature adults who respect each others ability to fight out own battles and secondly because our loyalty to each other is not required to be publicised to feel valuable. I think you will find that dog pilling onto each other's arguements is just about the most immature concept of loyalty one could aspire to.
Over and Out.... *click*
Bat claimed to be a mature adult! Who is he kidding? :)
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"I'm going to go embarrass myself with goose"
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Corky :D
good fights Lepape and Suns!
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Grizz,
When are you going to make more trading cards for the FPH's? :x
This thread sucks
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This thread sucks
These last 2 tournament threads have been HA-larious :lol
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well with the 30 pages of nothing has there been any other matches completed yet?
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As Perv said earlier in this tread, more rules will just complicate things.
They need to be stripped down
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3/5 > 1/5 maybe 2/5. 3/5 = majority.
It boils down to just that for me.
And this is coming from the guy who thinks krup is the football and sunbat is the monkey, if anyone is familiar with that video. :D
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I just took a snapshot of the leprechaun in my living room, questions?
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Me likey. :D
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Did not BE who organizes this thing ask folks to stop 8-9 pages ago?
Let it go gents. As mentioned, you are all cartoon legends. Who cares? Since Irish doesn't care in particular, why continue the debate?
How about appreciating that BE set it up, and that 99.9 percent of the participants are enjoying themselves, and aren't basing their real world self esteem on this thing and move on?
You don't like how BE is running the thing then don't participate. It seems to never fail that when someone in the community takes time to put some energy into trying to do something different, and for the community, that a small segment of that same community will go out of their way to find fault with it or whine about it. Shut up and play, or don't play as the case may be.
Your post pretty much sums up why I was drunkinly contently feeding Irish in his spixteen various random airicraft late one night this week (all in fighter sortie as that's all I fly, I'm too lazy to game for score). I was having fun, not often you fight spixteens that are piloted by someone that knows what the heck they're doing, pretty sure he was out there doing the same after a bad week or spending too much time reading this thread. Everyone here needs to lighten up and enjor the game, if you don't have enough to worry about in your lives then consider yourselves lucky and stop spitting in everyone's soup.
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If you're going to add rules to the event, add this one.
Any unsportsmanlike conduct, or arguing rules with Baldeagle or his team of judges, will be grounds for immediate removal from the event and possible future events.
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Boy, where does that sound familiar (too bad most of you, including all members of the phew, don't have access to the SDL O'Club). Thankfuly one of their own members can't edit-out it here in this forum as I know it has been brought to their attention before and it must awfuly sting to a group of such competitive egotistical maniacs. Might as well just blanket ban The Few from participation and save BE the effort as this is obviously a recouring issue causing needless arguments and spoiling of the entire barrel of apples.
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Way to generalise a whole squad for the actions of ahem...a Few.
Wurz
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Ah, why not, it's Friday, and since I think it was heavily ignored and not addressed when brought ot the attention of their squad and could of maybe saved everyone here in this thread 50 pages of headaches:
the POTW is officially withdrawing from any participation with the official Aces High Squadron Dueling League, effective immediately. I doubt further explanation is required or needed.
To those of you who exemplified all the good this league had to offer the community and its members, the POTW and myself wish you fair skys and strong tailwinds, please feel free to message us for any friendly fun unofficial squad bouts any of you may wish to have with us. Thank you all for your time and the good memories had by our squad and its participants from this league.
-Babalon
Acting CO POTW IIIw
« Last Edit: April 22, 2011, 23:09:17 by Bruv119 »
My original draft unedited:
Due to recent devolutions and a heavily growing internal opinion on the lacking of a strong foundation or heritage of legitimacy and honorable sportsmanship amongst other involved participants and authorities, the POTW is officially withdrawing from any participation with the official Aces High Squadron Dueling League, effective immediately. I doubt further explanation is required or needed.
To those of you who exemplified all the good this league had to offer the community and its members, the POTW and myself wish you fair skys and strong tailwinds, please feel free to message us for any friendly fun unofficial squad bouts any of you may wish to have with us. Thank you all for your time and the good memories had by our squad and its participants from this league.
-Babalon
Acting CO POTW IIIw
:cheers: :bolt:
Edit: forgot to add my favorite part in the first quote - "« Last Edit: April 22, 2011, 23:09:17 by Bruv119 »"
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Way to generalise a whole squad for the actions of ahem...a Few.
Wurz
We are here to be liked in a GAME gwurzel! :rock :rock
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wow, you guys need help. Officially withdrawing? You think people knew or cared if you were in it? WTH is up with everyone trying to talk fake WWII pilot language? (fair skys, tail winds, etc). Seriously? Does anyone here have a clue they are playing a video game?
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wow, you guys need help. Officially withdrawing? You think people knew or cared if you were in it? WTH is up with everyone trying to talk fake WWII pilot language? (fair skys, tail winds, etc). Seriously? Does anyone here have a clue they are playing a video game?
Most do not.
JUGgler
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wow, you guys need help. Officially withdrawing? You think people knew or cared if you were in it? WTH is up with everyone trying to talk fake WWII pilot language? (fair skys, tail winds, etc). Seriously? Does anyone here have a clue they are playing a video game?
We do Ded, that was posted over three months ago, in an attemt to concisely and clearly without any vitrol end a matter spiraling out of control in the AH community, similar to this one. It was the POTW responce to the Squad Dueling Bracket for Waystin already trying to alleviate major unrest and discontent in the community and our own squad over questionable practices by the phew, it was the result of a series of events and conversations that, once again, involved the community calling out questionable behavior and action of the phew in a forum thread and it sprialing out of control in flames, resulting in someone from the phew reporting the thread and getting it locked and a number of the people trying raise a genuine concern and trying to get the phew to accept responciblity for their actions banned from the forum for almost a week.
The final result being we withdrew (with that post) and left the purse fight, as you have pointed out Dedalos, long ago realizing it's just a game and trying to point that out the the phew but only getting those that tried to raise the issue banned from the forum by Skuzzy for flamming and publicly airing cheat alegations in the direction of the phew. We can still have organized squad duels with those wanting to have the fun without getting the phew involved as participants. I'm sorry if it's language was too much for you to comprehend or address, it was meant to be unflamatory and consise and unrebutable, so no surprise someone would try and find another means of undermining it, like with your post by assuming we were too serious or obsessed. But if you want to keep undermining BE's hard work Dedalos, keep talking.
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Most do not.
JUGgler
I'd disagree with you on that one JUG. I think most do, but there are a definite few who believe that being a cartoon fighter pilot god, really means something :)
In time they'll hopefully grow out of it. If they don't, they'll burn out and be gone anyway
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We are here to be liked in a GAME gwurzel! :rock :rock
putz
you have no clue as to what Honor is.....too bad Wurz and other members have to carry around the rep you guys are giving them.
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putz
you have no clue as to what Honor is.....too bad Wurz has to carry around the rep you guys are giving him.
:cheers:
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:cheers:
Bandwagon? :)
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Ink +1 to the forgotten honor, Corky you're spot on with that assessment, now tonight i'll be flying and doing my usual bait for the squad lol see ya in there :salute
Ace good flying last night.
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Ink +1 to the forgotten honor, Corky you're spot on with that assessment, now tonight i'll be flying and doing my usual bait for the squad lol see ya in there :salute
Ace good flying last night.
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banned from the forum by Skuzzy for flamming and publicly airing cheat alegations in the direction of the phew.
We can still have organized squad duels with those wanting to have the fun without getting the phew involved as participants.
I picked out a few things in particular;
Cheat allegations + Flaming... no wonder > Disregard for Forum Rules + the Skuzzinator = Persona Non Grata
Exclusion of TheFew... Perhaps a little spineless, and heavily reliant on TheFew flying for sadistic pleasure rather than fun, but I agree with the agenda/sentiment on the grounds that like The AoM they have some good competetive toon pilots. Perhaps you might want to include tha AoM in your exclusion? AoM being just as forum vocal and competetive, going on your logic that must mean they don't fly AH for fun.
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See Rule #4
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Did you happen to be sleeping during the last tournament?
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Did you happen to be sleeping during the last tournament?
Did you happen to be one of the minority that didn't pay attention to any of the rules posted by BE in his last tourney on page 1 until after the !@#$ hit the fan?
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I am self harming right now
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Did you happen to be one of the minority that didn't pay attention to any of the rules posted by BE in his last tourney on page 1 until after the !@#$ hit the fan?
In this tourney, do you feel as though Krup followed the rules?
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Did you happen to be sleeping during the last tournament?
What? Krup wasn't even a muppet then and I was the main contributor but I made it clear that it was all in fun. Spek, Kazaa and Pervert, the main posters at the time knew that and we all had good laughs. Don't tell me that's been festering in you all and that is why your logic and reason is clouded. Please, don't tell me that. Please.
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putz
you have no clue as to what Honor is.....too bad Wurz and other members have to carry around the rep you guys are giving them.
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I don't ever recall being a fanboy or ankle humper Bab. Your post is proof it's probably time you visited planet earth
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In this tourney, do you feel as though Krup followed the rules?
In my country, three outa four isn't 100% and it isn't 0%, it's close to 75%. It isn't disregarding and blatantley refusing to comply with the posted rules, but on three out of four he 100% complied, and due to one single mistake that he admitted to, he didn't 100% comply with one. Both parties came to a concentual agreement with no disagreement over the results, there isn't anything to dispute by them.
In my country, intent to comply and admiting to the mistake outright is sportsmanlike conduct, it is aplauded and rewarded. I can not personaly find any fault with the conduct or behaviour of Krup in this competition (much like the last one too), and aparently so does BE this round in this tourney (so why does it even matter like my opinion will matter to you since you obviously don't respect his at all).
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What? Krup wasn't even a muppet then and I was the main contributor but I made it clear that it was all in fun. Spek, Kazaa and Pervert, the main posters at the time knew that and we all had good laughs. Don't tell me that's been festering in you all and that is why your logic and reason is clouded. Please, don't tell me that. Please.
Sorry friend, if he won't, I will.
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I really loved these events, been in from the first one and sad to see a Few people start to kill it.
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What? Krup wasn't even a muppet then and I was the main contributor but I made it clear that it was all in fun. Spek, Kazaa and Pervert, the main posters at the time knew that and we all had good laughs. Don't tell me that's been festering in you all and that is why your logic and reason is clouded. Please, don't tell me that. Please.
What sticks with me is why Babalonian is bashing the "phew". In this case, I think he's off base. Spek lost the win because this technicality was brought up. The win isn't disputed in either case. Everyone knows Spek won then, and Krup won now. However, when he's punished for not following a rule, the "phew" should not be bashed for asking for that same rule to go both ways. In that way, I think Bab is mistaken.
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What sticks with me is why Babalonian is bashing the "phew". In this case, I think he's off base. Spek lost the win because this technicality was brought up. The win isn't disputed in either case. Everyone knows Spek won then, and Krup won now. However, when he's punished for not following a rule, the "phew" should not be bashed for asking for that same rule to go both ways. In that way, I think Bab is mistaken.
Finally Some Logic
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Everyone knows Spek won
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I now have a few question.Answer them if you wish if not ohh well.
1.How would you want TheFew to fly?
2.Should we actually do things your way?or I should say do you think we will fly the way you want ;)
Just asking.I have had nothing to do with this thread nor have a majority of the squad
3.What on earth makes you Internet tough guys think we compete to be better than others?
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I don't ever recall being a fanboy or ankle humper Bab. Your post is proof it's probably time you visited planet earth
Altimeter reading is 0. What's yours Captain Tom?
Sorry, I get testy defending the honor and sportmanship of my friends. What's your excuse?
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putz
you have no clue as to what Honor is.....too bad Wurz and other members have to carry around the rep you guys are giving them.
:rofl Looks like Someone is sore
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(I live in the same country as you.) In regards to Spek, he fully disclosed his issue, and was still punished for breaking the rules; good, he had it coming. However, many people observed the duel, and the results are well known. Despite this, the rule was still brought up, resulting in an ask for a rematch and finally a forfeiture. Okay, that is all fairplay, but not in the interests of sportsmanship, in my humble opinion. In regards to Krup, the rules were broken. Nowhere in the rules does it mention a concentual agreement that can override the rules. If I agreed with my opponent for him to fly a Zeke and me a Pony, that doesn't make it within the rules. I believe, to be fair and consistent, Krup should have been issued a warning aknowledging that the rules were broken, and that is only fair and within the rules to ask for. Therefore the "phew" should not bashed for fairly asking for some consequence when that door was previously opened.
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(I live in the same country as you.) In regards to Spek, he fully disclosed his issue, and was still punished for breaking the rules; good, he had it coming. However, many people observed the duel, and the results are well known. Despite this, the rule was still brought up, resulting in an ask for a rematch and finally a forfeiture. Okay, that is all fairplay, but not in the interests of sportsmanship, in my humble opinion. In regards to Krup, the rules were broken. Nowhere in the rules does it mention a concentual agreement that can override the rules. If I agreed with my opponent for him to fly a Zeke and me a Pony, that doesn't make it within the rules. I believe, to be fair and consistent, Krup should have been issued a warning aknowledging that the rules were broken, and that is only fair and within the rules to ask for. Therefore the "phew" should not bashed for fairly asking for some consequence when that door was previously opened.
:rofl These hypocrites talking about honor.Like Jekyll said Joey you are beating a dead horse
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Altimeter reading is 0. What's yours Captain Tom?
Sorry, I get testy defending the honor and sportmanship of my friends. What's your excuse?
Your posting agenda goes well past fairness, honor and sportsmanship. That is my excuse.
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(I live in the same country as you.) In regards to Spek, he fully disclosed his issue, and was still punished for breaking the rules; good, he had it coming. However, many people observed the duel, and the results are well known. Despite this, the rule was still brought up, resulting in an ask for a rematch and finally a forfeiture. Okay, that is all fairplay, but not in the interests of sportsmanship, in my humble opinion. In regards to Krup, the rules were broken. Nowhere in the rules does it mention a concentual agreement that can override the rules. If I agreed with my opponent for him to fly a Zeke and me a Pony, that doesn't make it within the rules. I believe, to be fair and consistent, Krup should have been issued a warning aknowledging that the rules were broken, and that is only fair and within the rules to ask for. Therefore the "phew" should not bashed for fairly asking for some consequence when that door was previously opened.
Some more good logic.
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I believe, to be fair and consistent, Krup should have been issued a warning aknowledging that the rules were broken, and that is only fair and within the rules to ask for.
well it is not like your squadmate jekyll and bunch of other many few members gave baldeagle an opportunity since ya'll plastered 10 plus pages the first time before baldeagle got home to respond and then have blasted this thread another 15 to 20 pages after baldeagle spoke the first time on the matter before he replyed again and now the many few have went and plastered another 4 to 5 pages or more after baldeagle posted a third time. so it must not matter what his ruling or decision is, it will never satisfy you many few. and how do you know if krupnski received a warning or not via private message, you dont know because it does not concern you
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What sticks with me is why Babalonian is bashing the "phew". In this case, I think he's off base. Spek lost the win because this technicality was brought up. The win isn't disputed in either case. Everyone knows Spek won then, and Krup won now. However, when he's punished for not following a rule, the "phew" should not be bashed for asking for that same rule to go both ways. In that way, I think Bab is mistaken.
And I think you are mistaken for defending that Spek rightfuly had a right to even participate in the tournament after he failed to be capable of complying with the rules posted at the begining of the tourney, and after a second warning was issued to him to comply AFTER already being given one waiver and warning by BE.
Also mistaken is this belief that the technicality was even brought up by Krup, in fact he conceded the victory, but due to straight-up fact that the mistake started when a competitior unable to comply with the rules signed up to particiapate happened (and it wasn't Krup), and the competitior directly disregarded their given warning while also achnowledging being waived on a special occasion of the rule already once.
Then there is their blatant abuse of the KOTH that lead to even further degredation of this issue and the phews unsportsmanlike reputation, that resulted in many of those who brought the issue to light getting suspended, and at least on the pigs behalf resulting in our withdrawl from any participation in the SDL and calling out the phew's shortcommings that Bruv edited anyways.
And now, this.
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one day I wanna make fun of people over the net, teach me :)
Darling, we would not have it.
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well it is not like your squadmate jekyll and bunch of other many few members gave baldeagle an opportunity since ya'll plastered 10 plus pages the first time before baldeagle got home to respond and then have blasted this thread another 15 to 20 pages after baldeagle spoke the first time on the matter before he replyed again and now the many few have went and plastered another 4 to 5 pages or more after baldeagle posted a third time. so it must not matter what his ruling or decision is, it will never satisfy you many few. and how do you know if krupnski received a warning or not via private message, you dont know because it does not concern you
Shade up much. Dont be afraid to show yourself :)
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And I think you are mistaken for defending that Spek rightfuly had a right to even participate in the tournament after he failed to be capable of complying with the rules posted at the begining of the tourney, and after a second warning was issued to him to comply AFTER already being given one waiver and warning by BE.
Also mistaken is this belief that the technicality was even brought up by Krup, in fact he conceded the victory, but due to straight-up fact that the mistake started when a competitior unable to comply with the rules signed up to particiapate happened (and it wasn't Krup), and the competitior directly disregarded their given warning while also achnowledging being waived on a special occasion of the rule already once.
Then there is their blatant abuse of the KOTH that lead to even further degredation of this issue and the phews unsportsmanlike reputation, that resulted in many of those who brought the issue to light getting suspended, and at least on the pigs behalf resulting in our withdrawl from any participation in the SDL and calling out the phew's shortcommings that Bruv edited anyways.
And now, this.
Read my sig. ;)
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well it is not like your squadmate jekyll and bunch of other many few members gave baldeagle an opportunity since ya'll plastered 10 plus pages the first time before baldeagle got home to respond and then have blasted this thread another 15 to 20 pages after baldeagle spoke the first time on the matter before he replyed again and now the many few have went and plastered another 4 to 5 pages or more after baldeagle posted a third time. so it must not matter what his ruling or decision is, it will never satisfy you many few. and how do you know if krupnski received a warning or not via private message, you dont know because it does not concern you
If you take the time to actually read some of what has occurred over the past few pages, the ruling has been accepted. What is being argued at this point is the accusations against the "phew".
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Shade up much. Dont be afraid to show yourself :)
is that the best you can come back with? i was flying the other night around lcadolby, shuffler, and others, talking on local range why do you assume I am a shade or I am hiding?
tonyjoey i have not accused the few of anything have i? or maybe i have to many pages of ridiculous b s to go drift through
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is that the best you can come back with? i was flying the other night around lcadolby, shuffler, and others, talking on local range why do you assume I am a shade or I am hiding?
Well lets see only a few posts of BS and Ignorance. I would say another clueless baby seal ;)
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Unfortunately, Spek's eligibility in the tourney was never disputed. He was giving a fair warning for breaking the rules. In the case of Spek, all parties affiliated to the duelers didn't sit on their hands and let BE rule as you seem to indicate. Instead, the issue was magnified to the point where BE could not ignore it. In my opinion, this amplification of a technicality that has no bearing on the results is where sportsmanship was thrown out of the window. If you want to go by the letter of the law, that is okay. However, don't throw out baseless accusations when another side wishes to bring an infraction of the same rule to the attention of BE, and for a similar consequence to be handed out.
As for KOTH, what specific occurances have led you to believe that the "phew" consistently abuse the rules?
EDIT: Mojo, I didn't imply that it was you that was making the accusations, so I apologize if I came off in that manner.
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i was flying the other night around lcadolby, shuffler, and others, talking on local range
I did a lot of squelching yesterday Limbo and his tormenter was two... I find it difficult to hear range over my music and selective hearing.
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Something I'd like a few of you to consider. You can't demand people's respect. You can't talk them into respecting you. And sometimes the more you talk, the more foolish you look. In the end, you do represent the people you fly with. Knowing when to stop talking can be a very effective weapon at times.
I've said it a few times already. You are all cartoon legends. Who cares. Relax. Have fun. Quit believing being a cartoon hero makes you anything more then that. Most of you will be gone sooner then later. The few that stick around, will figure out the friends they make and the fun they can have, is far more important.
Also keep in mind that the squads that survive are those who figure out the above sooner then later.
Sorry BE that a few folks continue to rain on something good that you've done. I trust that you know that the many who aren't continuing to try and justify things, appreciate the hard work you've put in to this tournament for them.
With that, I'm out.
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Something I'd like a few of you to consider. You can't demand people's respect. You can't talk them into respecting you. And sometimes the more you talk, the more foolish you look. In the end, you do represent the people you fly with. Knowing when to stop talking can be a very effective weapon at times.
I've said it a few times already. You are all cartoon legends. Who cares. Relax. Have fun. Quit believing being a cartoon hero makes you anything more then that. Most of you will be gone sooner then later. The few that stick around, will figure out the friends they make and the fun they can have, is far more important.
Also keep in mind that the squads that survive are those who figure out the above sooner then later.
Sorry BE that a few folks continue to rain on something good that you've done. I trust that you know that the many who aren't continuing to try and justify things, appreciate the hard work you've put in to this tournament for them.
With that, I'm out.
I Understand everything you said and Agree with it all.
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PM sent Guppy :salute
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well it is not like your squadmate jekyll and bunch of other many few members gave baldeagle an opportunity since ya'll plastered 10 plus pages the first time before baldeagle got home to respond and then have blasted this thread another 15 to 20 pages after baldeagle spoke the first time on the matter before he replyed again and now the many few have went and plastered another 4 to 5 pages or more after baldeagle posted a third time. so it must not matter what his ruling or decision is, it will never satisfy you many few. and how do you know if krupnski received a warning or not via private message, you dont know because it does not concern you
Majorizn, you point to one place where I ever said Krup didn't win the match? Point to one place where I said Krup didn't deserve the win. Point to one place where i ask the fight to be overturned. I never did in fact I stated several times that Krup deserved the win and i won't want to see it overturned. That is where so many have missed the whole argument because they are so quick to jump on the "look at me wagon" without ever taking a second to look at the issue I raised. Simply this; the rule that caused the whole thing should be removed. In fact the rule i pointed too affected the Few the same as it could have affected Krup so how in the world can the argument be for or against any squad or in defense of the Few?
Krup fought a good fight and deserved the win he is a heck of a player, I will say it again. But one thing for you and others to consider about this rule I ask to be looked at and removed is this; what happens if Krup has another failure in the next round and doesn't have film? As Kilz was so eager to point out to me, the rule is "Crystal" clear that two failures to follow the rules disqualifies you? Now I ask you; how stupid is that that someone could be disqualified for something as stupid as a accidentally hitting the cancel key, or a computer failure after fighting a great match? Why is it so important that any player has to be so darn worried about "filming" the match instead of worrying about fighting well and having a good time?
I plastered 10 pages because no one took a second to look at the issue I posted but decided because I am in a certain squad that the best and most popular thing to do is berate me instead so i defended myself. Admittedly in doing so I lost sight of the one thing i was trying to argue against and that is the stupid rule of having to film and turn in "all" films or risk losing the duel.
Yes BE tried to be fair, but by default fair is biased, like it or not. When you have to defend your position (I.E. BE) no matter how good you are your going to seem unfair to someone. Remove the rule and you remove the need to be "fair" and even go down that path. Two of seven matches have had this stupid debate because of this rule. I mean come on what does this rule really gain, for our viewing pleasure? With the rule any player risk losing the bracket for a stupid mistake or a computer malfunction. Without the rule at worst the player doesn't have film to defend their position (if they didn't film it) and they possibly lose. Which is the better option?
Krupinski, hats off to you for even sticking through all this bickering and BS. And hats off to BE for doing the same. But if anyone wants to attack me then do so on the merits of my argument, not simply because of the squad I'm in. For goodness sake, take a second to actually read what the heck my argument even was.
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Boy, where does that sound familiar (too bad most of you, including all members of the phew, don't have access to the SDL O'Club). Thankfuly one of their own members can't edit-out it here in this forum as I know it has been brought to their attention before and it must awfuly sting to a group of such competitive egotistical maniacs. Might as well just blanket ban The Few from participation and save BE the effort as this is obviously a recouring issue causing needless arguments and spoiling of the entire barrel of apples.
Nob
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MickyD, I know you are from England and all. Land of tea and crumpets. Reading your signature line, do you know what a MILF is in America? I don't think your Mom would approve, unless she is hot. haha
Boo
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MickyD, I know you are from England and all. Land of tea and crumpets. Reading your signature line, do you know what a MILF is in America? I don't think your Mom would approve, unless she is hot. haha
Boo
Do you know what shrimping is?
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What sticks with me is why Babalonian is bashing the "phew". In this case, I think he's off base. Spek lost the win because this technicality was brought up. The win isn't disputed in either case. Everyone knows Spek won then, and Krup won now. However, when he's punished for not following a rule, the "phew" should not be bashed for asking for that same rule to go both ways. In that way, I think Bab is mistaken.
What "sticks" with me is u can't see the difference between Spek ignoring the rules and krup making making an accidental error that made no difference. Pretty dim if u ask me.
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MickyD, I know you are from England and all. Land of tea and crumpets. Reading your signature line, do you know what a MILF is in America? I don't think your Mom would approve, unless she is hot. haha
Boo
Its an ironic acronym.
My mum is super hot.
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What "sticks" with me is u can't see the difference between Spek ignoring the rules and krup making making an accidental error that made no difference. Pretty dim if u ask me.
Better pay those lawyers a bit more bat. Ignoring the rules. Ha! It turned out to be a bug in the game as bone already clarified. Obviously you can't read or those lawyers are cheap. Do you ever say anything that's not full of ignorance?
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Better pay those lawyers a bit more bat. Ignoring the rules. Ha! It turned out to be a bug in the game as bone already clarified. Obviously you can't read or those lawyers are cheap. Do you ever say anything that's not full of ignorance?
A bug that only happens to u? How interesting. U could have figured it out if unwanted to but ubdidnt care to.
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Wasn't it fixed in an official patch? Must not have been just you Spek.
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A bug that only happens to u? How interesting. U could have figured it out if unwanted to but ubdidnt care to.
Lawyers fail you agian. Please do not turn to trolls. There becoming more and more easy to spot if you will.
Your right Micky.
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Majorizn, you point to one place where I
you started this whole diatribe at reply #389
1 - baldeagle is not getting a chance to even make comments or have his review committee and baldeagle see if there is any infraction before 10 20 30 pages of bs postings are posted
2 - i don't think i ever really accused or argued anything regarding your squad except the multiple postings from all of yor squad members and how it looks to the rest of us
3 - yes i did enjoy seeing each of you getting all riled up over something that seemed so simple for baldeagle and his team to make a call on. only if they could have done it immediately before the shannagins started regarding "the rule"
4 - bruv119, yarbles, tndep and pervert even, seem to have very respectful and courteous responses, it would look better if your squad members followed their leader's traits. dont be starting flame wars and dont be biteing the hooks when flamebait is set
5 - the last part of 4 is just advice it is not accusing you of biting a hook or starting a war
cheerio
Well lets see only a few posts of BS and Ignorance. I would say another clueless baby seal ;)
;) maybe i can fly koth this saturday night and meet you once again like I did at the end of last year drbone
believe it or not we have actually flown together in the avsa and fought each other in koth before. i guess since i am such a clueless baby seal you do not remember me
cheerio ol chap
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Bug or no bug. Makes no difference. If you had cared about the rules you would have stated that you were having trouble before the final. You didn't say anything which means u didn't care. Therefore, you got what u deserved. It's just that simple. Your position is indefensible.
Now what do u have?
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P.S. Bud
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Now what do u have?
All about the result baby.
Night night. :banana:
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Anybody hungry?
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you started this whole diatribe at reply #389
No actually it started with an accidental hit of a key which caused the whole rule I speak of to be broken. I was just the messenger. Which is exactly my point and my argument regarding the rule. And your argument for or against is? I'm perfectly willing to talk offline civil with you about it.
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gents shut up now your acting as Mods on Aces High Forums
leave this thread be and let folks post their wins or lost
find another thread to troll
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Looking forward to it.
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I think they neither had required films....and the "rule" says the other guy winz (essentially)....they both win and move on. :noid
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I don't know if the AoM is glad to not have to use as much ankle-hair remover these days because of the Phew or if they're upset about having to wear long pants now on cold days.
I have to start wearing pants now? :huh
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:rofl Looks like Someone is sore
pfft......your about as clueless as they come, sore? far from it I think its quit hilarious that I bother you so much you gotta put me in your sig :rofl
no more insulting PM's ?
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Babalon do I know you? Do you even play this game? :headscratch:
Please refrain from insulting me anymore.
Regards,
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Only now do I realise the futility of trying to debate, discuss or highlight any apparent duality or double standard within the confines of this particular public forum.
There is obviously a determined campaign to perpetually cast all of The Few into a bad light by a small, influential set of players and nothing can be done to change the mind of those entrenched in their beliefs or this campaign. It is pointless to try and reason with unreasonable people.
For everyone else please remember that there are at least two sides to any conflict. To some of us, these continual insinuations of cheating, gamesmanship and deliberate manipulation of the rules are offensive, insulting, unacceptable and frankly embarrassing for those who seem to believe that constantly making insinuations without proof is sufficient to make headway with their agenda.
Participants of any organised event should have the right to protest or highlight an apparent difference in the application of the rules publicly, especially over a series of tournaments in which the conveynor himself has been forced to alter and even interpret his own rules. This is not disrespectful to BaldEagle or his efforts. If this right is rescinded then it is indicative of a disturbing lack of respect to the participants and a fundamental loss of freedom.
Listening to and considering or at the very least recognising and trying to understand the objection would have been a far better approach than using rhetoric and personal insult to try and stop us talking.
This apparently unstoppable and perpetual feuding between the Army of Muppets and The Few might be part of some people's attraction and a needed component for them in the game and that is their choice. It is unreasonable to insist that this is all enveloping and involves everyone and forces more divisiveness between factions which inevitable lead to this unending bickering.
This forum really does have a life of its own which is fortunately detached from the game itself. For those here adept at rhetoric, disinformation and propaganda, remember that your influence extends to precisely the borders of this forum and no further. Nothing you can say will influence the way some of us choose to enjoy this game or how we wish to fly. Ultimately your efforts produce no more than a storm in a very small teacup, no matter how furiously you stir.
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I said I was out, but I'm stepping back in for one last comment to the post before this one.
Understand that this has nothing to do with the Few. It has a lot to do with a few. To attach such self importance to The Few, is again a problem of a few, mainly a few members of the Few. One of the dangers of reading your own press clippings is the mistaken belief that your squad means anything more to AH then any other squad, and that folks outside of that squad have the time or inclination to care enough to 'attack' your squad.
I'd suggest stepping back and realizing that you are just as full of it as the rest of us. Placing so much importance on something as silly as a cartoon fighter pilot tournament also speaks volumes to a few of The Few thinking it matters more then it does.
The only ones making this an issue with The Few, are a few of the Few, and in the end they reflect badly on the rest of The Few who are handling themselves just fine and end up getting caught up in any residual resentment of the few of the Few who don't understand that.
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pfft......your about as clueless as they come, sore? far from it I think its quit hilarious that I bother you so much you gotta put me in your sig :rofl
no more insulting PM's ?
No you dont get to me.The sig is the truth and sorry it hurts my young baby seal. Insulting pms? How about you leave another ignorant post on our Youtube vids again you lame.If i am right its something to do with you putting a tattoo on your private area :rofl Obviously i have done something right for you to take such weak Bait. Have a good day My new baby seal
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I said I was out, but I'm stepping back in for one last comment to the post before this one.
Understand that this has nothing to do with the Few. It has a lot to do with a few. To attach such self importance to The Few, is again a problem of a few, mainly a few members of the Few. One of the dangers of reading your own press clippings is the mistaken belief that your squad means anything more to AH then any other squad, and that folks outside of that squad have the time or inclination to care enough to 'attack' your squad.
I'd suggest stepping back and realizing that you are just as full of it as the rest of us. Placing so much importance on something as silly as a cartoon fighter pilot tournament also speaks volumes to a few of The Few thinking it matters more then it does.
The only ones making this an issue with The Few, are a few of the Few, and in the end they reflect badly on the rest of The Few who are handling themselves just fine and end up getting caught up in any residual resentment of the few of the Few who don't understand that.
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Nice Guppy you fell in with the crowd instead of providing leadership which is where I would think a CM staff member, as a representative of HT, should go, no? Certainly as an HT spokesman your insults carry more weight, thanks.
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pffft looked up here, wanted to see the results...
and found this. Amazing. Every dueling bracket ends like the last two?
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No you dont get to me.The sig is the truth and sorry it hurts my young baby seal. Insulting pms? How about you leave another ignorant post on our Youtube vids again you lame.If i am right its something to do with you putting a tattoo on your private area :rofl Obviously i have done something right for you to take such weak Bait. Have a good day My new baby seal
:rofl :rofl :rofl
if the truth hurts change your reality....FF
funny you send me a insulting Pm then block me...unblock me and I will tell ya exactly what I think about you, this board here cant handle it and I would get banned for life.
my post on your lame video was a direct cause from your PM so blame your self for starting watermelon with the wrong person.
anytime you wanna DA you let me know :aok
you talk real badass behind a keyboard :rofl
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you talk real badass behind a keyboard :rofl
So do you lol
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So do you lol
I speak the truth, and I have been there done that :aok
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Nice Guppy you fell in with the crowd instead of providing leadership which is where I would think a CM staff member, as a representative of HT, should go, no? Certainly as an HT spokesman your insults carry more weight, thanks.
If that's what you saw, then your comprehension skills need work.
This isn't about the squad "The Few". It has a lot to do with a couple members of that particular squad who seem to want to beat this into the ground when there is nothing left to say.
There are some quality people and quality sticks in "The Few". Sadly a couple of you are reflecting badly on the squad right now and need to just let it go.
Speaking for me personally. When a squad takes on a name with a historical connection, I believe it has an obligation to represent that connection. Having been around long enough to have been friends with some of the real "Few", they were the classiest bunch of individuals I've ever had the privilege to meet in my life. They didn't whine about the odds, or make excuses, and at that point they were all that stood between England and losing. I'd suggest you take some historical inspiration from the name, and start acting the part, while remembering the huge difference here, is you have nothing to really lose, other then the respect of the folks who fly with you and against you.
I know that most of the guys in "The Few" understand this. I wish that you few that don't would quit reflecting poorly on the rest of them and just drop this.
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I'm beginning to think that a few people (no pun or reference intended) are trying their hardest to put an end to these tournaments.
Even if I decide to go forward, which I likely will, I'm sure many will be put off, wanting nothing to do with the endless bickering that's plagued the last two tournaments. In fact two have said just that in the thread that Kilz started.
It's enough that the economy is bad and that for whatever reason player numbers are down. I do my best to try to encourage people to join this event so that there's enough diversity of talent to allow even the relatively unskilled to possibly have a chance. All that effort is lost, or worse reversed, by this.
I've seen a lot of people say "no offense to BE" but how can I not take offense? It's my charachter and judgements that are being questioned and frankly, I think I've shown a lot more charachter than a lot of posters in this thread.
If you have a problem with the way I run the tournament send me a PM and I'll be more than happy to have a civil dialog over it when I have a chance. If you're determined to make this event a shell of what it could be then keep it up, you're doing a good job.
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If that's what you saw, then your comprehension skills need work.
This isn't about the squad "The Few". It has a lot to do with a couple members of that particular squad who seem to want to beat this into the ground when there is nothing left to say.
There are some quality people and quality sticks in "The Few". Sadly a couple of you are reflecting badly on the squad right now and need to just let it go.
Speaking for me personally. When a squad takes on a name with a historical connection, I believe it has an obligation to represent that connection. Having been around long enough to have been friends with some of the real "Few", they were the classiest bunch of individuals I've ever had the privilege to meet in my life. They didn't whine about the odds, or make excuses, and at that point they were all that stood between England and losing. I'd suggest you take some historical inspiration from the name, and start acting the part, while remembering the huge difference here, is you have nothing to really lose, other then the respect of the folks who fly with you and against you.
I know that most of the guys in "The Few" understand this. I wish that you few that don't would quit reflecting poorly on the rest of them and just drop this.
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Guppy when you speak you also represent more than yourself. Don't point fingers while ignoring that big logo under your icon.
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Take a 30 minute break guys. I need to run to the store for more popcorn :bolt:
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Guppy when you speak you also represent more than yourself. Don't point fingers while ignoring that big logo under your icon.
There is nothing to debate. Quit jabbering and participate in the event, or not. If you think I've insulted you, that's all on you. I'm quite comfortable in how I represent myself here and in AH. Why don't you show some respect to the rest of the folks involved here and stop?
Better yet, since you seem to have it all figured out, why don't you organize your own tournament and set it up so that you are happy with it, and let those who wish to participate in BE's voluntary, as in you don't have to be in it, tournament and they can enjoy that? Could have sworn Bruv was putting his money where his mouth is and trying to do something like that wasn't he?
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Wasn't it fixed in an official patch? Must not have been just you Spek.
I remember there being a patch fixing something slightly related to filming but nothing to do with Spek's film symptoms. Is there another patch that you are referring to?
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I remember during college playing against our heated and hated rival university. This was rugby, the real sport of men and our team was ranked in the top-5 in the Nation. The game quickly devolved into a bar fight during every scrum and lineout. Punches, people getting stomped on when the ball was out of the ruck and half way across the field. I was sucker punched twice, goes that way when you score a try. Each time the ball died a second scrum of fists and kicks would follow, whistles from the ref and side judges pulling people apart. Then came the diplomatic finger pointing, screaming and accusations from both sinners and saints. Each time took 5 minutes to restart play.
It reached a point where no matter how long we discussed who did what first, it didn't matter. It simply didn't matter. The ref finally blew the whistle and called the game on the spot. We were left looking rather silly with the game ended with it only half over. Sadly, we were down by 3-points and lost our perfect season.
I think someone needs to call the whistle on this debate. We have the brackets to deal with. Is anyone even flying in the "air" anymore? Who is left? Can we lock this thread to only those left engaged, meaning this is my last post?
Great people on both sides with lots of fingers being pointed. Just end it. No one is ever going to win and all parties have posts that do not show their good side. On the complimentary side, great competitors make great players and at times their competitive side gets the better of their brain. This is clearly one of them. Snap out of it, hit the showers and those left to duel get dueling. I know, this is the heart of the isse. Bald Eagle makes a call, end of it!
Boo
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There is nothing to debate. Quit jabbering and participate in the event, or not. If you think I've insulted you, that's all on you. I'm quite comfortable in how I represent myself here and in AH. Why don't you show some respect to the rest of the folks involved here and stop?
Better yet, since you seem to have it all figured out, why don't you organize your own tournament and set it up so that you are happy with it, and let those who wish to participate in BE's voluntary, as in you don't have to be in it, tournament and they can enjoy that? Could have sworn Bruv was putting his money where his mouth is and trying to do something like that wasn't he?
I will stop Guppy, I understand now where the CM Staff and HT is coming from. I ask what I thought is a valid question, I took your comment against me for doing so as an insult. I guess I would have preferred a solid "Jekyll your screwed up like a soup sandwich, your interpretation of the rule is incorrect and the rule should stand." At least that would provide input to the actual issue I raised. I will admit, I could have read your statement wrong and took it wrong, it looked insulting. :salute
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I remember during college playing against our heated and hated rival university. This was rugby, the real sport of men and our team was ranked in the top-5 in the Nation. The game quickly devolved into a bar fight during every scrum and lineout. Punches, people getting stomped on when the ball was out of the ruck and half way across the field. I was sucker punched twice, goes that way when you score a try. Each time the ball died a second scrum of fists and kicks would follow, whistles from the ref and side judges pulling people apart. Then came the diplomatic finger pointing, screaming and accusations from both sinners and saints. Each time took 5 minutes to restart play.
It reached a point where no matter how long we discussed who did what first, it didn't matter. It simply didn't matter. The ref finally blew the whistle and called the game on the spot. We were left looking rather silly with the game ended with it only half over. Sadly, we were down by 3-points and lost our perfect season.
I think someone needs to call the whistle on this debate. We have the brackets to deal with. Is anyone even flying in the "air" anymore? Who is left? Can we lock this thread to only those left engaged, meaning this is my last post?
Great people on both sides with lots of fingers being pointed. Just end it. No one is ever going to win and all parties have posts that do not show their good side. On the complimentary side, great competitors make great players and at times their competitive side gets the better of their brain. This is clearly one of them. Snap out of it, hit the showers and those left to duel get dueling. I know, this is the heart of the isse. Bald Eagle makes a call, end of it!
Boo
Well said :aok
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I remember there being a patch fixing something slightly related to filming but nothing to do with Spek's film symptoms. Is there another patch that you are referring to?
I remember it being mentioned in the last saga. I could be wrong.
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I will stop Guppy, I understand now where the CM Staff and HT is coming from. I ask what I thought is a valid question, I took your comment against me for doing so as an insult. I guess I would have preferred a solid "Jekyll your screwed up like a soup sandwich, your interpretation of the rule is incorrect and the rule should stand." At least that would provide input to the actual issue I raised. I will admit, I could have read your statement wrong and took it wrong, it looked insulting. :salute
Thanks for that. Very much appreciated <S>
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I remember there being a patch fixing something slightly related to filming but nothing to do with Spek's film symptoms. Is there another patch that you are referring to?
If i am right it stated that it was a fix that caused Films to not save to the hard drive or something like that.
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I wish to apologize to BE and the AH community and I will be gone from this BBS. I can't please everyone in this apology and for those who are still upset please PM me instead of continuing on here. I learned a lot in my first go round of this sort on here, it is indeed humbling.
I never understood how egregious an act it is to raise a question in the forum, I now know. I don't say that to be flippant or malice an any way, that truly is the lesson I learned out of all this.
I get it now, after having been informed by many on here I just had a hard head in letting it sink in. I obviously upset many by doing so, some so much they even called my military service into question, that was above all the very worst of it. This was my first time through this type of war, a war I'm not use to. As am American and a soldier I would ask that some might understand my reluctance to bend under such an autocratic leadership style. Those who play this event understand that and agree to it, I have to either learn to agree to it or don't participate; that is my decision to make.
Thanks for hearing me out, and for those who are still that upset, please take it to PM.
Jekyll :salute <poof>
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thats funny bone send me more PM's that I cant reply back to... :aok
you are pathetic and something that rhymes with wussy :aok
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Cute sig lines :lol Ink has stained your brains :D
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Cute sig lines :lol Ink has stained your brains :D
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WHA HAPPENED?
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man I miss this game. Gotta log on soon.
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If i am right it stated that it was a fix that caused Films to not save to the hard drive or something like that.
"Fixed an issue that would cause films and screenshots to take a long time to write to your hard drive if you had a large number of films or screenshots in your directory."
This one? Not really what spek was dealing with from how he described it.
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wow I think drbone wants to see my tattoo..... with all the PM's im getting from him :rofl :rofl
my wife's getting jealous :O
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Send him an autographed picture of your 'ki-84'. After he's done jealously crying over its enormous size (compared to his 'ki-84'), he will hang it from the ceiling above his bed and admire it every time he lays down to hug his stuffed 'spitfire' and rest. Don't worry DrBone, there are plenty of late night infomercials claiming to also have Dr.s (much like yourself) to help with your 'Ki' enlargement needs.
PS: With your sig, you asked for the dog pile on this one, bone.
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Send him an autographed picture of your 'ki-84'. After he's done jealously crying over its enormous size (compared to his 'ki-84'), he will hang it from the ceiling above his bed and admire it every time he lays down to hug his stuffed 'spitfire' and rest. Don't worry DrBone, there are plenty of late night infomercials claiming to also have Dr.s (much like yourself) to help with your 'Ki' enlargement needs.
PS: With your sig, you asked for the dog pile on this one, bone.
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oh man Ardy I didn't think I could laugh any more then I did after bones PM. :rofl :rofl
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He wanted a cartoon noodle size competition and he got it, now he's mad and sending a flury of PMs to you? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Maybe next time he should ask for an icecream cone.
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"Fixed an issue that would cause films and screenshots to take a long time to write to your hard drive if you had a large number of films or screenshots in your directory."
This one? Not really what spek was dealing with from how he described it.
That "bug" would just freeze your screen when you hit Alt + S or Alt + R for the first time. The film still recorded or the screen shot still shot but you would end up where you would have been without the in between part. Kind of like a warp from the first person perspective.
Have there been any duels this week? Where we at?
wrongway
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Not much chance the Muppet contingent could stop now is there? :) Seems like the rest of the crowd left. Maybe we could leave the thread for BE and the guys to post results from the tourney?
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Not much chance the Muppet contingent could stop now is there? :) Seems like the rest of the crowd left. Maybe we could leave the thread for BE and the guys to post results from the tourney?
Ok I'm sorry, I'll behave. I saw a sig I couldn't resist... too tempting.
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Have there been any duels this week? Where we at?
All the duels are in except for TC and Frytruck. TC's been out of town but I think he's due back today or tomorrow.
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This is also my first multiplayer on-line game and my first and only forum thus it has been a learning experience for me too. Both this and the Sixth. In my own particular or even private culture and value system, respect, sportsmanship and equality is valued highly. It was perhaps ill advised of me to try and assert my beliefs in an unreceptive or incompatible environment.
I respect what Mthrockmor and especially Guppy35 have said and thank you both for your well thought out observations and comments.
I shall perhaps henceforth spend less time reading posts and contributing to the public forum and try instead to be more understanding, adapt to circumstance and concentrate on improving my flying instead.
:salute
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All the duels are in except for TC and Frytruck. TC's been out of town but I think he's due back today or tomorrow.
Correct we haven't set a date yet. We will get it in :salute
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"Fixed an issue that would cause films and screenshots to take a long time to write to your hard drive if you had a large number of films or screenshots in your directory."
This one? Not really what spek was dealing with from how he described it.
Thats the problem that i was having. :salute
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Not much chance the Muppet contingent could stop now is there? :) Seems like the rest of the crowd left. Maybe we could leave the thread for BE and the guys to post results from the tourney?
They are weak trolls that will not get my response. No worries Corky ;) Never knew the trolls could be trolled :salute :salute
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Ha.
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They are weak trolls that will not get my response. No worries Corky ;) Never knew the trolls could be trolled :salute :salute
Really?
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They are weak trolls that will not get my response. No worries Corky ;) Never knew the trolls could be trolled :salute :salute
And the fingerpointing continues.... :uhoh
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NO, U!!!!11111
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Too many pages. Can someone summarize the dispute please?
And please let no-one be discouraged from entering the next bracket tournament because of this controversy. It's one of the more fun things to do in Aces High for sure, and these purse fights are relatively rare. We have had two in the last two tournaments but let's hope it's an anomaly.
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Too many pages. Can someone summarize the dispute please?
And please let no-one be discouraged from entering the next bracket tournament because of this controversy. It's one of the more fun things to do in Aces High for sure, and these purse fights are relatively rare. We have had two in the last two tournaments but let's hope it's an anomaly.
No dispute. Please lets not go over it again. It was a wasted 30 pages. Bald Eagle has it well in hand, those doing the arguing have ceased and desisted :)
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Okay, now that the dust is settled, have all 4 duels taken place yet?
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Okay, now that the dust is settled, have all 4 duels taken place yet?
Wait... all the 35 pages of worthless crap and the last four fights still not fought?
Quote from Midway: you guys are hilarious.
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Wait... all the 35 pages of worthless crap and the last four fights still not fought?
Quote from Midway: you guys are hilarious.
I just went back to find the bracket "results" (took a long time) and the only duel outcome i'm not aware of is the one between TC and Frytuck. I'm fighting bruv this week and I don't know about the others since I ran away from the purse fight and called 911
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-4.jpg)
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One need only look back one page for the answer:
All the duels are in except for TC and Frytruck. TC's been out of town but I think he's due back today or tomorrow.
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One need only look back one page for the answer:
Oh... sorry BE. :salute
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Ok its hypocritical to post but I would be delighted if the next time I get an E mail alert of a post here its some results :aok
As a member of The Few with all the tarring with the same brush that has been going on my opinion is Jekyll was right to raise the issue of films for clarrification then it should have been left to BE to clarrify. It required maybe 4 posts in total. If people then are still not satisfied I would sugest at most and with restraint a pm to BE and then if not satisfied don't enter next time.
I am British and nearly 50 which probably invalidates my opinion but I grew up with a mentality that how one conducts oneself in general is more important than winning. I have no way of understanding how all this got so out of hand :old: I am amazed BE has the time and patience to put up with it :salute
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I might need an extension for whoever I fight next, TC or Fryrtuck. Going camping w/ my dad next week.
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Ok its hypocritical to post but I would be delighted if the next time I get an E mail alert of a post here its some results :aok
As a member of The Few with all the tarring with the same brush that has been going on my opinion is Jekyll was right to raise the issue of films for clarrification then it should have been left to BE to clarrify. It required maybe 4 posts in total. If people then are still not satisfied I would sugest at most and with restraint a pm to BE and then if not satisfied don't enter next time.
I am British and nearly 50 which probably invalidates my opinion but I grew up with a mentality that how one conducts oneself in general is more important than winning. I have no way of understanding how all this got so out of hand :old: I am amazed BE has the time and patience to put up with it :salute
And in my opinion anyone who raised issue with Jekyll raising issue just to stir the pot and destroy the tournament was right.
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Am on my daughter's phone. Will be leaving tonight to head back home....
Funny thing I was bombarded by personal messages after trying to meet Wednesday night. I sent a personal message saying im leaving out of town and then get pm's as if the pm's i sent were never acknowledged or read..... I know you are central time zone... but for a week now you have been online after 12 midnight central time...
Is beyond me why you couldn't meet me online ACE....
TC
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Too hard to read all these persoanl messages on this phone...
Will read them when I get home...
TC
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Sorry TC someone called out Wednesday and I had to go in. I have to work again tonight so Monday or Tuesday morning night (unless I work) should be fine...
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.... Therefore, you got what u deserved.....Now what do u have?
The victory? you lawyers can yap all you want about rulings. The fans of the bracket who aren't moved by the mob's torches and pitch forks, all know who the real winner was. :salute
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The victory? you lawyers can yap all you want about rulings. The fans of the bracket who aren't moved by the mob's torches and pitch forks, all know who the real winner was. :salute
Vink, it's over. Let it go bud!
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I guess I should have done this much ealier today knowing that TC has been out of town but here's the next bracket update.
I'm giving Frytruck and TC an extension to 10:00 PM Tuesday to get their fight in.
This one's for the finals:
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-5.jpg)
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PM sent lepape, :salute
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But if you want to keep undermining BE's hard work Dedalos, keep talking.
:rofl OK, at list the thread is turning funny now. I am undermining BEs work now? :rofl
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I'm beginning to think that a few people (no pun or reference intended) are trying their hardest to put an end to these tournaments.
Even if I decide to go forward,
I think you should. If you are going to stop it should be because you did not have time, got tired of it, or lost interest. Not because a couple of guys are crying. If you think about it, it is really only a couple that are complaining.
It's enough that the economy is bad and that for whatever reason player numbers are down. I do my best to try to encourage people to join this event so that there's enough diversity of talent to allow even the relatively unskilled to possibly have a chance. All that effort is lost, or worse reversed, by this.
I've seen a lot of people say "no offense to BE" but how can I not take offense? It's my charachter and judgements that are being questioned and frankly, I think I've shown a lot more charachter than a lot of posters in this thread.
If you have a problem with the way I run the tournament send me a PM and I'll be more than happy to have a civil dialog over it when I have a chance. If you're determined to make this event a shell of what it could be then keep it up, you're doing a good job.
I would take offense to it too. Even if you make a mistake here and there (and i am not saying you have) it should no matter. Someone can always PM you about it but at the end, it is a free service. No one is forced to use it or is paying for it. Therefore, people really need to shut up and move on. Who ever does not like it or you, can start their own.
The best way to know and see if you have the support of the majority is do it again. My guess is that you will have more people attending, and e few guys eventually explaining why they are not.
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dedalos you cant just shut up and let it die now that the dust has settled some
three fights left lets see if everyone can avoid trolling for those three fights
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^^^ :salute
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I might need an extension for whoever I fight next, TC or Fryrtuck. Going camping w/ my dad next week.
Good luck Krupcake....I'm pullin for ya!!! :salute
Changeup
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dedalos you cant just shut up and let it die now that the dust has settled some
three fights left lets see if everyone can avoid trolling for those three fights
Can you?
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many of you have no idea what dedalos has done for BE and this tourny in the past.
just sayin
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many of you have no idea what dedalos has done for BE and this tourny in the past.
just sayin
No doubt. It still comes down to us letting BE get the last word in this thread however :)
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You're absolutely right, far as I was concerned BE made a ruling on the krup film situation about a week ago and since then I've ignored everything else.
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No doubt. It still comes down to us letting BE get the last word in this thread however :)
Agreed, I was just catching up on the thread and figured he could use a supporting post.
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Wow, I picked a bad time to get banned from the bbs. What did I miss? :rofl
Looks like I missed out on a tough bracket this time around anyway.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?s19z9jqyqi665dd Rd 1 Fry
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbayqqz95429be1 Rd 2 Fry
http://www.mediafire.com/?1ns9n05k5aux3h0 Rd 3 TC
http://www.mediafire.com/?qzc4zwgfy3mcb5e Rd 4 TC
http://www.mediafire.com/?ifwrafellmxvz74 Rd 5 Fry
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http://www.mediafire.com/?s19z9jqyqi665dd Rd 1 Fry
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbayqqz95429be1 Rd 2 Fry
http://www.mediafire.com/?1ns9n05k5aux3h0 Rd 3 TC
http://www.mediafire.com/?qzc4zwgfy3mcb5e Rd 4 TC
http://www.mediafire.com/?ifwrafellmxvz74 Rd 5 Fry
Awesome fun tonight ACE !!!
FryrTuck vs. TC
Rd 1 - FryrTuck Typhoon
Rd 2 - FryrTuck P40E
Rd 3 - TC F6F-5
Rd 4 - TC F4U-1
Rd 5 - FryrTuck Spitfire XVI
truely enjoyed these fights, was a nail biter in the 3rd Round where I lost 1/2 my right wing in the F6f and also in the 4th Rd when you got hits on me you took off some parts , smoked my engine /gun and Pilot Wounded me all at same time...... I was almost faded to blackout whole when I got you...... In the Spit16 round while coming around for our 3rd reversal/nose to nose merge, I was late getting around and got shots off but missed your back section/tail feathers, and I knew with 100% certianty that you was going to be pulling that trigger coming around for the 4th N to N merge......
Awesome Job ..... well Played <S>
TC
edit: and a Special Thanks to ACE/FryrTuck for going out of his way to work with me on my schedule, and staying up late........ :cheers:
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Outstanding shots and flying all around. Other than my last KOTH....... have I ever been so pumped full of adrenaline
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Get him during tea time Lepape!
Nice final 4.
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wtg ACE and TC, I watched the fights in god mode, they were really good.
S!
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UPDATE
Before I post the update a word of warning. A bystander pointed out to me that Frytruck had a drop tank mounted in duel #5. This forced me to review the films tonight in order to post this update, something I did not want to have to do. It may have become an issue. Mounting a drop tank could allow a player to run his opponent out of fuel even though he's fighting heavier. In this case it became a non-issue when I heard both players state "tank away" on audio.
While it turned out both players violated the rules, I'm not going to press the issue and force a rematch although I do expect that drop tanks will not be allowed in the future. Please pay attention to your load-outs when configuring your aircraft for your duels.
Here's the final match for the finals. Considering your history I expect you both to be on your best behavior and I expect complete compliance with the rules.
Good luck.
Krupnski
A6M3
Fryrtuck
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Heya BaldEagl,
my bad, I guess....... I told FryrTuck it was his choice to pick the plane for round 5, and he typed out 25% and the swiffer/sweeper??? tank......... I asked him why and asked if the Spit16 was really that low on fuel when selecting 25% and the fuel burn is set to 2.0....... FryrTuck said yes/typed yes the Spit16 was really pushing it at taking off with 25% only........... I did not bother to launch and check it myself to see what 25% gives ya
so he said we drop the DT as soon as we se each others Icon......... sorry, I did not know we was breaking a rule ( when I should have known.... you think I orta know these rules after being on the committee every time for all 7 tournys )
edit: brain fart just hit me: first, I am not accusing or saying Ace/FryrTuck did anything wrong and I have not watched any films of our dueling rounds...
but follow me here, if both players take off with a DT under the assumption that they drop it at ICON range, does not mean that either player has to be using that fuel in the DT instead of the internal fuel tank......... so if one player is burning up his fuel from the get go from his main tank and just lugging the extra weight until; icon range while the opposite player is burning fuel from his DT and then dropping at icon with still 25% fuel load ...... this could make for off balanced duel setting due to weight differences more so than just "unloading some ammo rounds"......
Best of Luck to the Final Four <S>
TC
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TC, I got paired up in the I-16 in one opening duel. It has the lightest fuel load in the game and I actually considered asking to up the fuel load to 50% but didn't as it would have been against the rules. As it was the fight didn't last long enough to use all the fuel in even that plane.
BTW you're right about not having to use the drop tank but Frytruck was on external until he dropped it so no harm no foul. I just want to make sure others don't follow suit in the future.
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Your Fuel regs do not state the carrying of a Drop Tank to be illegal, you pretty much left a loophole that can be exploited.
- All duels will be 25% fuel load out with player’s choice of gun package and convergence.
Whereas it should be clear for example;
- For all duels, fuel load will be set to 25% Internal. The use of External Fuel Pods / Drop Tanks is strictly prohibited.
:)
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Your Fuel regs do not state the carrying of a Drop Tank to be illegal, you pretty much left a loophole that can be exploited.
- All duels will be 25% fuel load out with player’s choice of gun package and convergence.
Whereas it should be clear for example;
- For all duels, fuel load will be set to 25% Internal. The use of External Fuel Pods / Drop Tanks is strictly prohibited.
:)
was pointed out and if i remember the PM right BE is going to mod it in. :aok always loop holes to fix darn it lol
i think the way BE was thinking is, if a drop tank is added then it wouldnt be 25% fuel in theory. i think thats what he thought of the rule. but i agree it should prolly be stated in the rules for future matches.
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Your Fuel regs do not state the carrying of a Drop Tank to be illegal, you pretty much left a loophole that can be exploited.
Before a certain style of player started joining the bracket, loopholes were not searched for or exploited.
I geuss we can't stop certain style of player signing up though. So just more work for BE making more and more rules.
edit: I'm not calling either Ace or TC dishonourable.
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Before a certain style of player started joining the bracket, loopholes were not searched for or exploited.
I'd expect that to have been there from the Bracket's inception; isn't down to the style of player, but the nature of competition.
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Disagree, it's the nature of certain types of people. Other types want to win fairly or not at all.
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Dolby, wtf is up with that sig of yours?
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Dolby, wtf is up with that sig of yours?
Question is; did you get Spine, lither, ginger and subtext when you rearranged?
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Question is; did you get Spine, lither, ginger and subtext when you rearranged?
The question is; how old are you? :lol
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bring back the old sig :old:
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Before a certain style of player started joining the bracket, loopholes were not searched for or exploited.
I geuss we can't stop certain style of player signing up though. So just more work for BE making more and more rules.
edit: I'm not calling either Ace or TC dishonourable.
Well said Batfink, thankfully it's only a Phew and hopefully we don't get The Many more. :aok
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The question is; how old are you? :lol
Old enough to drink, drive, and procreate. :old:
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If you didn't have to climb to 10k you would have enough fuel and simply say no drops 25%
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ok thank you gents it was noted BE is aware of it and will make the changes. lets not take this out of proportion
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ok thank you gents it was noted BE is aware of it and will make the changes. lets not take this out of proportion
I apologize if I missed the post where BE made Killz his public relations. :rofl
Let me just say, no no Killz, Thank You!
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I apologize if I missed the post where BE made Killz his public relations. :rofl
Let me just say, no no Killz, Thank You!
I was wondering the exact same thing. :lol
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If you didn't have to climb to 10k you would have enough fuel and simply say no drops 25%
I thought someone once said you have to climb way up there to save fuel.
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I thought someone once said you have to climb way up there to save fuel.
LOL. I'd heard that rumor too :)
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I thought someone once said you have to climb way up there to save fuel.
you referring to to chalenge's little "climbing to 30k is a great way to conserve fuel" quote?
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I will most likely need till Monday afternoon or sometime tuesday.
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I will most likely need till Monday afternoon or sometime tuesday.
I'll give the extension if it's needed. I did say in the beginning I'd be flexible given two holidays fell during this tournament.
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Disagree, it's the nature of certain types of people. Other types want to win fairly or not at all.
Mate you cannot be serious the rot set in years ago.
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/Yarbles/_39126458_mcenroe1_al270.jpg)
:old:
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hhehe
It's not about winnign fairly to be fair to others, it's about winning fairly to feel like you deserve to win.
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Lepape2 - C205
Bruv119 - Spit9
Lepape2 - P47N
Bruv119 - Spit9
Bruv119 - P47N
Awesome fights <S> Good luck again in the finals :salute
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Lepape2 - C205
Bruv119 - Spit9
Lepape2 - P47N
Bruv119 - Spit9
Bruv119 - P47N
Awesome fights <S> Good luck again in the finals :salute
I wanna see that last fight!
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I wanna see that last fight!
I did so much tailslides I started to have too much fun and forgot about the duel lol :P
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I did so much tailslides I started to have too much fun and forgot about the duel lol :P
Hehe I wanna see how they work in 1v1s. It would have been cool if you got him with a tailslide for the win. Only joking Bruv :)
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wtg bruv
ul Lepape2
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thanks for the duel Lepape2 you had me on the edge of my seat.
Films will follow, except the c205 round because I accidentally hit cancel after my engine died. I think I was a little miffed because I thought one of us must get a shot sooner or later, we fought for so long that it had time to run out. I'm sure lepape can post it. I couldn't see watermelon out of that c205.
:salute again bud.
PS: why are the french Canadians being so mean to wills and kate?
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Cc, give me 5min to post the c205 film and I'll edit this post with the link
EDIT: Here: C205 Film Fight #1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?td8m8zn6ew6ujai)
EDIT2: and the final fight for viewing pleasure: P47N #5 (http://www.mediafire.com/?13mzpsu4arwxpa3)
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Films will follow, except the c205 round because I accidentally hit cancel.
Not a big deal.
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PS: why are the french Canadians being so mean to wills and kate?
Separatists? They hate everyone. Always have.
wrongway
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Separatists? They hate everyone. Always have.
wrongway
The minute I become a separatist, someone kill me. End of off topic :aok
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47 fight was awesome.....very nice flying both parties
congrats to the winner :salute
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Nice run, Pape. :aok
Sucks to lose to a guy nobody has ever heard of though. :D
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Since we're coming up to the final I'll wait to post the bracket update until Krupnsky and Frytruck have fought.
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Since we're coming up to the final I'll wait to post the bracket update until Krupnsky and Frytruck have fought.
It'll be Monday or we need another extension.
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It'll be Monday or we need another extension.
On the 4th... :furious
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We're gonna try tomorrow but I'm not even sure yet if I'll be around, if I am won't be till late.
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Ok I did manage to dig up the c205 fight, I just left the film running on a couple of them. Here are the full compliment of films for the viewing pleasure of the community;
Round 1 C205 Lepape wins http://www.4shared.com/file/zmxlHYvE/lepape_c205_-_R1.html
Round 2 Spit9 Bruv119 wins http://www.4shared.com/file/ttjvcpOM/lepape_spit9_r2.html
Round 3 P47N Lepape wins http://www.4shared.com/file/yt_GIiR-/lepape_p47_-_R3.html
Round 4 Spit9 Bruv119 wins http://www.4shared.com/file/bad1FnWn/lepape_spit_9_R4.html
Round 5 P47N Bruv119 wins http://www.4shared.com/file/26-ZA4V8/lepape_P47_-_R5.html
:salute
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Bruv, can you maybe zip all the films into one folder and upload to mediafire next time.
Click link, wait 20 seconds, repeat 4 more times. :cry
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Lepape,
You were very unlucky not to defeat Bruv. You're moves were text book - I was very impressed. :salute
As for Bruv, well, I'll be talking to him when he gets home...
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As for Bruv, well, I'll be talking to him when he gets home...
no cuddle tonight ? :O
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Nuke,
He's in the dog house for sure. Can we resqedual our ménage à trois for another night?
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Watching those replays made me want to plug my CH gear back into the computer and put aside my racing wheel.
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Watching those replays made me want to plug my CH gear back into the computer and put aside my racing wheel.
:aok :banana:
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Watching those replays made me want to plug my CH gear back into the computer and put aside my racing wheel.
less talk, more action :airplane: :joystick:
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Bruv, can you maybe zip all the films into one folder and upload to mediafire next time.
Click link, wait 20 seconds, repeat 4 more times. :cry
This
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Ok I did manage to dig up the c205 fight, I just left the film running on a couple of them. Here are the full compliment of films for the viewing pleasure of the community;
Round 1 C205 Lepape wins http://www.4shared.com/file/zmxlHYvE/lepape_c205_-_R1.html
Round 2 Spit9 Bruv119 wins http://www.4shared.com/file/ttjvcpOM/lepape_spit9_r2.html
Round 3 P47N Lepape wins http://www.4shared.com/file/yt_GIiR-/lepape_p47_-_R3.html
Round 4 Spit9 Bruv119 wins http://www.4shared.com/file/bad1FnWn/lepape_spit_9_R4.html
Round 5 P47N Bruv119 wins http://www.4shared.com/file/26-ZA4V8/lepape_P47_-_R5.html
:salute
EPIC
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I refuse to use mediafire because of the popups and them lame, type this gibberish into the box nonsense, that takes more than 20 secs to work out :old:
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I use digitalbucket myself. When you click the link to the vid, it doesn't open another window and there are no ads!
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Watching those replays made me want to plug my CH gear back into the computer and put aside my racing wheel.
:uhoh not sure One arena could contain Kazamonster and the rest :eek:
I would say this proves Bruv is no Prima Dona and can still perform on what for him is a bad day :salute
Well done also Lepape :salute
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What's the verdict spek, krup? :noid
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I told him 10pm EST, he still hasn't shown up, gonna log soon hopefully he'll be around tomorrow or something.
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I refuse to use mediafire because of the popups and them lame, type this gibberish into the box nonsense, that takes more than 20 secs to work out :old:
if your squad has it's own domain then why not use your FTP service for that domain/website and upload to your website's space to host your films as needed???
I think that would be the most easiest and more convenient :cheers:
TC
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Sorry Krup I didnt see the EST part until now we will have to do it wednesday.
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:rolleyes:
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:rolleyes:
<3
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:rolleyes:
+1
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I told him 10pm EST, he still hasn't shown up, gonna log soon hopefully he'll be around tomorrow or something.
Sorry Krup I didnt see the EST part until now we will have to do it wednesday.
Well lets see, 10:00 PM EST would be 11:00 PM EDT which would be 10:00 PM CDT which was 8 minutes after Krupinski posted that he was going to log off soon. Might be best to use daylight savings time if it's in effect.
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I'm sure what I meant to say was understood out of common sense.
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I'm sure what I meant to say was understood out of common sense.
I'm also sure you're right but I'm making a point about interpretaion which I've been called on the carpet for over and over in the past two tournaments. ;)
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I have a bad feeling about this... :uhoh
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I have a bad feeling about this... :uhoh
I'm still sore about you eating a PBJ with the crusts cut off and watching a movie during our duel in tourny 1 or 2...and still whipping me.
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I'm still sore about you eating a PBJ with the crusts cut off and watching a movie during our duel in tourny 1 or 2...and still whipping me.
:rofl :neener:
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if your squad has it's own domain then why not use your FTP service for that domain/website and upload to your website's space to host your films as needed???
I think that would be the most easiest and more convenient :cheers:
TC
This is a good point TC and I will do this in future. The other thing was zipping up files into one download but I bet there are quite a few people who would not know how to unzip them at the other end.
:salute
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This is a good point TC and I will do this in future. The other thing was zipping up files into one download but I bet there are quite a few people who would not know how to unzip them at the other end.
:salute
should not be a problem concerning zipped files....... Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7 all have a natvie unzipping utility built in to the OS........ the OS automatically recognizes the file as a zipped folder that can be extracted
hope this helps
<S>
TC
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:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
:lol :D
I realise with 2 gladiators so evenly matched its tense but let's all take it easy gentlemen :salute
and may the best man win :salute
Imo the best outcome will be one that is fair and sporting :aok
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if your squad has it's own domain then why not use your FTP service for that domain/website and upload to your website's space to host your films as needed???
I think that would be the most easiest and more convenient :cheers:
TC
Bruv doesn't normally let us use nice things because we end up breaking them.
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:rolleyes:
:lol :D
I realise with 2 gladiators so evenly matched its tense but let's all take it easy gentlemen :salute
and may the best man win :salute
Imo the best outcome will be one that is fair and sporting :aok
I question Spek's attention to detail. Hopefully he doesn't forget to tie his shoes and wear clean underwear in RL.
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i think he just recently discovered (http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/images/smilies/bandit.gif)
bloody kids :old:
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Coombzy! Shhh :)
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:rofl
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i think he just recently discovered (http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/images/smilies/bandit.gif)
bloody kids :old:
:lol
In your own time Spek :rolleyes: :D
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:rofl
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Redicules
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You guys are gonna kill me. Grizz says I don't pay attention to detail well...I wrote the wrong schedule down at work :). Krup we can get this in before 3 my time central were good
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*sings*
"I was gonna film my duels, but I got high"
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*sings*
"I was gonna film my duels, but I got high"
"I thought he mean't CST, but I was high"
(Next line please)
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On now Krup what do I look for Krupnski or Krupcake?
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A6M3 - Krup
Spit 8 - Krup
Typhoon - Me
BF 109 K4 - Me
Ta 152 - Krup
Man That last fight was greattttttttt you made your shot going so fast lol could have went either way in that one. IMO. Ill post films if necessary when I get home.
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GFs, almost lost it in the flat scissors. :uhoh
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/Fryrtuck1.ahf A6M3
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/Fryrtuck2.ahf Spit8
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/Fryrtuck3.ahf Typhoon
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/fryrtuck4.ahf K4
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Krupcake/fryrtuck5.ahf Ta-152
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A6M3 - Krup
Spit 8 - Krup
Typhoon - Me
BF 109 K4 - Me
Ta 152 - Krup
Man That last fight was greattttttttt you made your shot going so fast lol could have went either way in that one. IMO. Ill post films if necessary when I get home.
I DEMAND A REVIEW!!! Player "Me" is not part of this bracket (I checked twice and could not find him) :furious
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A6M3 - Krup
Spit 8 - Krup
Typhoon - Me
BF 109 K4 - Me
Ta 152 - Krup
Man That last fight was greattttttttt you made your shot going so fast lol could have went either way in that one. IMO. Ill post films if necessary when I get home.
Oh they work now?
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WTG Krupnski :aok
1 more to go :banana:
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WTG Krup :cheers:
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Wtg krup, unlucky ace
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Ace? :D
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Ace? :D
Ya U like mencallig u ace huh? :D
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Here we are with one to go for the championship. Congratulations to both Krupinski and Bruv for getting to this point, no small task.
This final round is best of seven with the same plane selection rules as the last two rounds.
May the best man win. Here's the final match-up:
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-6.jpg)
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Here we are with one to go for the championship. Congratulations to both Krupinski and Bruv for getting to this point, no small task.
This final round is best of seven with the same plane selection rules as the last two rounds.
May the best man win. Here's the final match-up:
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-6.jpg)
This outa be good
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good luck to the both of you
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Yup, have a good one! We want 7 films btw! :furious
:cheers:
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who is on the review committee for this bracket?
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who is on the review committee for this bracket?
BaldEagl - BaldEagl Administrator
haxxor - dkff49 - Review Committee
LTARkilz - kilz - Review Committee
TC - TequilaChaser - Review Committee
why do you ask???
Good Luck to both of you !
<S>
TC
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Cool, good luck guys! :salute
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WTG Krupcake!!! Best of luck to both of you.
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BaldEagl - BaldEagl Administrator
haxxor - dkff49 - Review Committee
LTARkilz - kilz - Review Committee
TC - TequilaChaser - Review Committee
why do you ask???
Good Luck to both of you !
<S>
TC
Plus Melvin as the alternate.
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It was brought to my attention that Krupinski broke the altitude ceiling in each of his fights with Frytruck. I have not had a chance to watch the films but from what I hear at least a couple of these may be considered egregious violations while a couple of others may be considered within reason.
As a result Frytruck was offered the opportunity to file a dispute and send it to the review committee. He has declined to do so.
I feel at this point I must post a warning to Krupinski. If you break the alt ceiling in the finals you will be ejected from the tournament and Bruv will be declared the winner regardless of the results of the fights assuming the information provided to me was correct. I won't have a chance to see the films myself until this weekend so I want to be clear that this is unacceptable.
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It was brought to my attention that Krupinski broke the altitude ceiling in each of his fights with Frytruck. I have not had a chance to watch the films but from what I hear at least a couple of these may be considered egregious violations while a couple of others may be considered within reason.
As a result Frytruck was offered the opportunity to file a dispute and send it to the review committee. He has declined to do so.
I feel at this point I must post a warning to Krupinski. If you break the alt ceiling in the finals you will be ejected from the tournament and Bruv will be declared the winner regardless of the results of the fights assuming the information provided to me was correct. I won't have a chance to see the films myself until this weekend so I want to be clear that this is unacceptable.
:salute
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I
It was brought to my attention that Krupinski broke the altitude ceiling in each of his fights with Frytruck. I have not had a chance to watch the films but from what I hear at least a couple of these may be considered egregious violations while a couple of others may be considered within reason.
As a result Frytruck was offered the opportunity to file a dispute and send it to the review committee. He has declined to do so.
I feel at this point I must post a warning to Krupinski. If you break the alt ceiling in the finals you will be ejected from the tournament and Bruv will be declared the winner regardless of the results of the fights assuming the information provided to me was correct. I won't have a chance to see the films myself until this weekend so I want to be clear that this is unacceptable.
I would like to add that I was aware of this krup and declined a rematch out of respect that ihave for you :salute and good luck
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I don't understand, there's an alt cap after the merge? :huh
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I don't understand, there's an alt cap after the merge? :huh
10k, basically premerge limit
Edit: you can break 10k after you pass The opponent
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I don't understand, there's an alt cap after the merge? :huh
No there is not but there is an alt cap at all times prior to the merge.
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The highest I got within dot range (not icon) was 10.2k, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that would give me such a superior advantage. :huh
Two of the fights though I went afk on climb out and got to 11.5k, I was back to 10k well within dot range.
You Few guys are really something. :huh
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The highest I got within dot range (not icon) was 10.2k, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that would give me such a superior advantage. :huh
Two of the fights though I went afk on climb out and got to 11.5k, I was back to 10k well within dot range.
You Few guys are really something. :huh
10.2K isn't really a problem although it's what I consider the top end of "within reason". Anything over that is pushing your luck.
When I review the films I'll be looking at merge speeds. If your 11.5 "errors" resulted in an E advantage at the merge then you didn't do enough to correct your mistake. A 1.5K advantage can clearly give you E superiority. You may have been able to compensate if you'd dropped to 10K and chopped the throttle to get back to a normal level speed. Without having seen the films I can't say that you did or didn't but from what I've heard that wasn't the case and you carried a speed advantage into every fight.
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10.2K isn't really a problem although it's what I consider the top end of "within reason". Anything over that is pushing your luck.
When I review the films I'll be looking at merge speeds. If your 11.5 "errors" resulted in an E advantage at the merge then you didn't do enough to correct your mistake. A 1.5K advantage can clearly give you E superiority. You may have been able to compensate if you'd dropped to 10K and chopped the throttle to get back to a normal level speed. Without having seen the films I can't say that you did or didn't but from what I've heard that wasn't the case and you carried a speed advantage into every fight.
Just went back and looked at the speed differences. By the time we passed eachother on the merges there was hardly a significant speed difference.
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I
I would like to add that I was aware of this krup and declined a rematch out of respect that ihave for you :salute and good luck
So who brought it up?
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You Few guys are really something. :huh
First, BaldEagle <S>. You do a fantastic job! Always have been a stand up guy! This in no way relates to you.
Krup, I feel for you man, I really do. Soon they will be analyzing your RPMs. :rolleyes:
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Here you go, the two fights I went a bit high, I don't see anything that would guarantee me a win, do you?
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/hewhokillz/A6M2.png)
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/hewhokillz/A6M.png)
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/hewhokillz/typh2.png)
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/hewhokillz/Typh1.png)
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I guess you forgot to read my post. I wasn't complaining about you being over the alt limit. I just don't want you to lose to bruv if you accidentally break the cap. :salute
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Well, now that you mention it, 20mph and still a small alt adv. is a significant E adv. :bolt:
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Well, now that you mention it, 20mph and still a small alt adv. is a significant E adv.
You're right, because I was right at his level that whole fight and lost. :huh
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Just went back and looked at the speed differences. By the time we passed eachother on the merges there was a 10mph speed difference in both of those fights.
Here you go, the two fights I went a bit high, I don't see anything that would guarantee me a win, do you?
Krup, You are not going to be able to argue that breaking the alt cap is OK no matter how hard you try. Just stay within the cap and everything will be OK.
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How you manage that extra E isn't in the rules. :)
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Krup, You are not going to be able to argue that breaking the alt cap is OK no matter how hard you try. Just stay within the cap and everything will be OK.
I'm not arguing that it's not a big deal, I'm frustrated at the ignorance of some people. If I were 1k above the alt cap, sure, DQ me but 200ft? Are you kidding me?
*Poof
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(http://sfw.chanarchive.org/content/50_b/52774034/1202018871461.gif)
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100524034252/reddeadredemption/images/8/82/Epic-fail-guy-dance.gif)
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Grizz that ruined the thread. Krup again you fail to see my post as a sign of respect. Try number 3 : :salute
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If you're out of bounds you're out of bounds, no matter how small the margin. Suck it up for Christ's sake.
ACE made a very sporting gesture by saying he didn't ask for a rematch or anything and has given you the benefit of the doubt. Move on :old:
GL in the final.
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If you're out of bounds you're out of bounds, no matter how small the margin. Suck it up for Christ's sake.
ACE made a very sporting gesture by saying he didn't ask for a rematch or anything and has given you the benefit of the doubt. Move on :old:
GL in the final.
Oh is this the beginning of another oh-so-typical "the few" BBS dogpile?
...quick let me get some pop-corn, maybe this thread can get 200 pages.
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Oh is this the beginning of another oh-so-typical "the few" BBS dogpile?
...quick let me get some pop-corn, maybe this thread can get 200 pages.
We dogpile and the muppets gangbang :)
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Oh is this the beginning of another oh-so-typical "the few" BBS dogpile?
...quick let me get some pop-corn, maybe this thread can get 200 pages.
This bait... I ain't taking it :aok
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The mockery is complete. Solid work fellas :aok
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http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=xDImw81muzM
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This whole thing is no laughing matter....for Yenny.
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Such a shame. I liked Yenny :(
Sorta
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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How hard is it to climb to 10k and press auto level.
Just saying.
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Good luck in the final Bruv. :aok
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How hard is it to climb to 10k and press auto level.
Just saying.
Someone as uber as Krup should have magical keyboard skills even when afk.
Just saying.
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Is there any reason the alt thing was brought up in this thread instead of by PM to Krup?
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So who brought it up?
I am the one to bring this to BaldEagl's attention and to the Review Committee's attention, so you people ( in general, not you specific Slash ) are going on about nothing really and/or are attacking the wrong person/people/group.......
FryrTuck( Ace ) declined to pursue any "rules infraction" , which was his decision to make if he wantd to, was classy of him to let it slide
with that said, there is a reason that the rules state "film must be from runway take off until end of the fight"........ and that the Pre-Merge Alt Cap is 10K altitude max until Icon Range!
I am requesting that the personal attacking comments be left out of this , PLEASE!
let Bruv & Krup duel their final rounds for the Championship of this tournament, Please!
Is there any reason the alt thing was brought up in this thread instead of by PM to Krup?
Yes, DMF, it was to make everyone on these boards aware that we are reviewing the films and that we noticed something that needed to be addressed
<S>
TC
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See Rule #4
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Such a shame. I liked Yenny :(
Sorta
What happend to yenny :(
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You know the picture of the kitty being held at gunpoint? That, but only it's yenny and being a muppet if Krup loses to Bruv. Don't ask why, it seems to make perfect sense to us.
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See Rules #4, #6
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See Rules #4, #6
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I call for all the drama queens to be banned from next tournement. :old:
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I call for all the drama queens to be banned from next tournement. :old:
Shida your right!
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Is there any reason the alt thing was brought up in this thread instead of by PM to Krup?
Class
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at this point who really cares who wins. :rolleyes:
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at this point who really cares who wins. :rolleyes:
Yenny does.
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We were both going for the win.
FM2 - Bruv
K4 - Krup
Spit9 - Krup
Spit9 - Bruv
K4 - Krup
Spit9 - Bruv
K4 - Bruv I juked wayy too soon. :bhead
Congrats Bruv, I got what I wanted out of this tourny, a good fight and a rematch with Spek. :angel:
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Wtg Bruv! The resume is complete :)
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Well done Bruv.
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Good job Bruv :salute
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I have a bunker, there's room for one more person and I have enough supplies to last the oncoming apocalypse.
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I have a bunker, there's room for one more person.
That is mine! Don't u dare action it off.
WTG bruv!!! :cheers: unlucky krup, on the bright side u got him in a spit9 :O :airplane:
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Wtg Bruv.
Poor Yenny. :(
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Wtg Bruv.
Poor Yenny. :(
congrats Bruv
better luck next time griz
Bruv we await your films sir should be some fun ones to watch
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better luck next time griz
Oh hey thanks.
Wait, wut? :huh
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lol.
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:rofl
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:rofl :noid
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Well done Bruv!
S!
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firstly I would like to thank Krup for a nail biting duel that could have gone either way. Also thanks for the fun dueling session afterwards where we did actually fly lots of different planes ;)
I will post the films tomorrow because it is 2:30AM and I need my beauty sleep.
:salute
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firstly I would like to thank Krup for a nail biting duel that could have gone either way. Also thanks for the fun dueling session afterwards where we did actually fly lots of different planes ;)
I will post the films tomorrow because it is 2:30AM and I need my beauty sleep.
:salute
I'll most likely see you tomorrow :D :banana:
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You know it's a good match up when you use all the given fights to determine a winner. :aok
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WTFG
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lol nice sheep
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Bruv, WTG!! And thank you! Now we are rid if Yenny. :banana:
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congrats Bruv
better luck next time griz
Bruv we await your films sir should be some fun ones to watch
Oh hey thanks.
Wait, wut? :huh
This little exchange cracked me up.
WTF is that? :rofl :rofl :rofl
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:banana: :headscratch: :airplane: :old:
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The General Discussion after the Bracket finale:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q5V6DKH3bw
:bolt:
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/commercial/2011/6/17/1308266116195/Vancouver-riot-kiss-coupl-001.jpg)
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LMFAO oooppppsss Krup
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/commercial/2011/6/17/1308266116195/Vancouver-riot-kiss-coupl-001.jpg)
Kaz finally shaved his legs. :aok
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I thought that was Bruv and Midway :D
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Congratulations Bruv :salute
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Yep, wtg Bruv :salute
Sorry to see Yenny go out like this though. :(
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I will post the films tomorrow because it is 2:30AM and I need my beauty sleep.
:salute
Wtg Bruv and don't forget to brush your teeth :salute
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http://www.thefewsquadron.co.uk/films/Bruv119/bruvvskkrupfinal.zip
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Congrats Bruv. :cheers:
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Bruv,
The final kill was lush.
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Congratulation Mr Bruv :aok
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Kaz finally shaved his legs. :aok
Joey,
What's that big black rubber thing you're holding?
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Congrats Bruv and WTG Krupcake....you got beat by a guy that thinks soccer is actually a sport.
Changeup
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Congrats Bruv and WTG Krupcake....you got beat by a guy that thinks soccer is actually a sport.
Changeup
Lol!
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Way to :airplane: it Bruv. Saw all 7 fights, :aok
Nice work going all the way up there Krump!
Question to you: Why do you always jerk your elevators like this when you pull up right after initial merge? Is it to increase turn rate (Gs) and come in and out of blackout without loosing consciousness?
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lol I knew I judged that wrong, but dang, after watching the film I had plenty of room to keep going up.
In my film your nose was to the right a bit more, probably what made me freak out and try to juke that.
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Congratulations to everyone who had fun participating <S>
..........and to the winner, Sir, well done :salute
(can't wait for the next one)
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Question to you: Why do you always jerk your elevators like this when you pull up right after initial merge? Is it to increase turn rate (Gs) and come in and out of blackout without loosing consciousness?
i'm used to dueling on the deck and it was me doing exactly that. Trying to pull as hard as I can and then releasing the pressure to prevent total blackout. It Looks like a fish out of water and not very smooth at all.
Having too much speed is as bad as having too little.
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i'm used to dueling on the deck and it was me doing exactly that. Trying to pull as hard as I can and then releasing the pressure to prevent total blackout. It Looks like a fish out of water and not very smooth at all.
Having too much speed is as bad as having too little.
Phanta does te same thing I noticed
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enjoyed watching the films of the finals matchup.... was very entertaining
some good flying by both Krup & Bruv
congrats Bruv for the win
cheers
TC
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Big hand for BaldEagle and committee, good job on bringing this thing home.
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZyS78U9CoIXOVV0TmoQCeEO5ZDdGeGlDaiA1rmRgDSAAkja7t)
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I just had a chance to finally watch the Krupinski vs FryrTuck (I can't believe you've been letting me get your name wrong all this time) duels. I need to issue a formal apology to Krupinski.
In the first duel you did fly to 11.5K but dropped back to 10.2K at dot range and at that point speeds were within 2 mph. Mistake corrected, no harm no foul.
In the second duel you climbed to 10.2K and at dot range had a 3 mph deficit. Again no foul.
In the third duel you climbed to 10.7K, dropped to 10.2K and had a 20 mph speed advantage at dot range. This fight may have been brought into question but you lost so again, no foul. Had you won this one it may have been an issue.
In the fourth duel you were again level at 10.2K and were carrying a 24mph speed advantage that I believe was gained through using WEP. There's no rule against the use of WEP on climb out or in transit to the merge. Also for some reason FryrTuck was only at 8.7K at dot range and, since the rules state that 10K is both a ceiling and a floor, if anything, he might have been called. It would be unlikely since he was giving up the E advantage but it may have actually worked in his favor as you lost again.
In the last duel you again used WEP to carry an E advantage into the fight. At dot range you had a 95 mph speed advantage. Once again FryrTuck was giving up the E advantage to start by entering dot range at only 7.3K This time, in 190's, the E advantage played heavily in your favor as might be expected but again, there's no rule against using WEP in transit. You entered dot range at 10.2K once again but were bouncing between 10.2K and 10.3K all the way to the fight. In that sense you were seriously flirting with being in bounds but other factors had more to do with the outcome of the fight than that.
So even though I think that at a consistant 10.2K merge you're flirting with the limits all in all there was no reason for me to post a warning to you. I rely on the information given to me to make those decisions because with the hours that I work, well, just now is the first chance I've had to see the films myself. I did however feel that if the information being provided to me was correct that I had to issue the warning.
As to those who questioned why I did so publicly it was for two reasons; one to let everyone know that I do take the rules seriously and two, if there had been reason for a disqualification that all the cards would be on the table.
Again, my apologies to Krupinski. Well done sir. :salute
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It's all good.
I do remember speks tactic last tourny was to come in a bit slower on the merge so he could get a head start on the turns, atleast in the spit fights he did.
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I figured as long as I was watching films I'd watch the final before posting the final bracket.
Good flying on both your parts but particularly excellent throttle management on Bruv's part.
Congratulations to both of you for an exceptional seven duel final match. I don't think we could have hoped for a more dramatic finish.
Here's the final bracket. I hope that everyone who participated had fun and I hope to see you all again when sign-ups start in mid September for the Eighth Triannual.
(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/Bracket-11.jpg)
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It's all good.
I do remember speks tactic last tourny was to come in a bit slower on the merge so he could get a head start on the turns, atleast in the spit fights he did.
I did? Can I have a film cause I don't remember :salute
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I did? Can I have a film cause I don't remember :salute
Yea, the Seafire and spit16 fights I uber failed, you came into the merge on 0 throttle, you turned inside me like I was in a B29, remember?
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Yea, the Seafire and spit16 fights I uber failed, you came into the merge on 0 throttle, you turned inside me like I was in a B29, remember?
No lol still don't remember.
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Well, my films are on my old computer, no way I'm gonna go get them right now.
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Krump, next time, please aim for 10.0000000000k alright? Its not THAT hard you know. :rolleyes:
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Nvm...
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WTG Bruv <S> :rock
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Congrats Bruv!!!
just saw the films, great flying you guys <S> Bruv & Krup
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I just had a chance to finally watch the Krupinski vs FryrTuck (I can't believe you've been letting me get your name wrong all this time) duels. I need to issue a formal apology to Krupinski.
In the first duel you did fly to 11.5K but dropped back to 10.2K at dot range and at that point speeds were within 2 mph. Mistake corrected, no harm no foul.
In the second duel you climbed to 10.2K and at dot range had a 3 mph deficit. Again no foul.
In the third duel you climbed to 10.7K, dropped to 10.2K and had a 20 mph speed advantage at dot range. This fight may have been brought into question but you lost so again, no foul. Had you won this one it may have been an issue.
In the fourth duel you were again level at 10.2K and were carrying a 24mph speed advantage that I believe was gained through using WEP. There's no rule against the use of WEP on climb out or in transit to the merge. Also for some reason FryrTuck was only at 8.7K at dot range and, since the rules state that 10K is both a ceiling and a floor, if anything, he might have been called. It would be unlikely since he was giving up the E advantage but it may have actually worked in his favor as you lost again.
In the last duel you again used WEP to carry an E advantage into the fight. At dot range you had a 95 mph speed advantage. Once again FryrTuck was giving up the E advantage to start by entering dot range at only 7.3K This time, in 190's, the E advantage played heavily in your favor as might be expected but again, there's no rule against using WEP in transit. You entered dot range at 10.2K once again but were bouncing between 10.2K and 10.3K all the way to the fight. In that sense you were seriously flirting with being in bounds but other factors had more to do with the outcome of the fight than that.
So even though I think that at a consistant 10.2K merge you're flirting with the limits all in all there was no reason for me to post a warning to you. I rely on the information given to me to make those decisions because with the hours that I work, well, just now is the first chance I've had to see the films myself. I did however feel that if the information being provided to me was correct that I had to issue the warning.
As to those who questioned why I did so publicly it was for two reasons; one to let everyone know that I do take the rules seriously and two, if there had been reason for a disqualification that all the cards would be on the table.
Again, my apologies to Krupinski. Well done sir. :salute
See rule 999
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See rule 999
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So if this is not clarrified I will assume in the next round which I definatley wish to enter I will fly into the merge at 10.2k until I reach Icon and then begin to dive in. Simple as that . I don't care what any member of the The Few or The Muppets have to say about this that is what I have taken away form the 7th event. It is a great event but it is an evolving event and the rules need to evolve with it.
It depresses me in general how partisan people are on all sides of the argument in their judgemnet but I can assure anyone who wished to make the effort to think about this that I am acting in what I consider to be the interests of the event and not representing one interest over another in this conclussion. What I am repressenting is my own personnel judgement in an event I have taken part in .
This is one of those points I really wish I was not in a squad as this will be taken up and no doubt digested as squad politics but sometimes one feels compelled to speak from ones own conscience which over rides all else and as someone who values the opportunity this event represents to compete. I would like this with respect to BE to be dealt with thoroughly. If there is no issue here and this is all witin my own mind I will be informed accordingly but I susspect the best outcome is a tightening of the rules in this area for the benefit of everyone. These are my own sincere and personnel concers and I hope no nastiness follows on from this though based on past experience of the calibre of some of the pople involved in this it will.
You'll go straight to the gas chamber for this.
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So if this is not clarrified I will assume in the next round which I definatley wish to enter I will fly into the merge at 10.2k until I reach Icon and then begin to dive in. Simple as that . I don't care what any member of the The Few or The Muppets have to say about this that is what I have taken away form the 7th event. It is a great event but it is an evolving event and the rules need to evolve with it.
It depresses me in general how partisan people are on all sides of the argument in their judgemnet but I can assure anyone who wished to make the effort to think about this that I am acting in what I consider to be the interests of the event and not representing one interest over another in this conclussion. What I am repressenting is my own personnel judgement in an event I have taken part in .
This is one of those points I really wish I was not in a squad as this will be taken up and no doubt digested as squad politics but sometimes one feels compelled to speak from ones own conscience which over rides all else and as someone who values the opportunity this event represents to compete. I would like this with respect to BE to be dealt with thoroughly. If there is no issue here and this is all witin my own mind I will be informed accordingly but I susspect the best outcome is a tightening of the rules in this area for the benefit of everyone. These are my own sincere and personnel concers and I hope no nastiness follows on from this though based on past experience of the calibre of some of the pople involved in this it will.
Geezus, you'd think there was a cash prize with all these nit picky rule whines. 10k 10.1k, who cares, it's freaking negligible. Any player with half a clue dives on the merge anyways to get the lower hand, at which point the other player dives. Well, since it starts at 10k both players have to chop throttle to avoid compressing so the whole 200ft over becomes a completely moot point. If you plan on squeeking into a fight with a 10-20 mph advantage and going ROCKETMAN on the merge, you might win the fight (you'll still likely get blasted actually) but you'll lose all respect in the dogfighting community.
Just keep it close to 10k, preferably right under, simple as that. :bhead
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It must be exhausting herding your cats.
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It must be exhausting herding your cats.
I have better things to do these days like racing virtual cars. :neener:
But bless Yarbles cotton socks. He only wants things to be fair.
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I have better things to do these days, like racing virtual cars. :neener:
Don't forget sheep fighters
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It must be exhausting herding your cats.
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No means no Ivan.
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We were both going for the win.
FM2 - Bruv
K4 - Krup
Spit9 - Krup
Spit9 - Bruv
K4 - Krup
Spit9 - Bruv
K4 - Bruv I juked wayy too soon. :bhead
Congrats Bruv, I got what I wanted out of this tourny, a good fight and a rematch with Spek. :angel:
Congrats Bruv! nice job sir. :salute
Very well done Krup. :salute
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I'm in for the next tourney. Thanks Bald Eagle for running them.
If had the gumption I would run a 2 v 2 tourney. That could be fun. And I would really like the SDL to sort out. I was only able to fly with Loose Deuce in two of those but loved it. Actually, the best was all of the squad training leading up to it.
In any case...
:salute
Boo
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2 v 2 tourney? IN....I choose 999000....he and I will take all comers...he gets the B17!! Hehehe
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2 v 2 tourney? IN....I choose 999000....he and I will take all comers...he gets the B17!! Hehehe
Take a tbm, he can gun for you :lol
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Cc, give me 5min to post the c205 film and I'll edit this post with the link
EDIT: Here: C205 Film Fight #1 (http://www.mediafire.com/?td8m8zn6ew6ujai)
EDIT2: and the final fight for viewing pleasure: P47N #5 (http://www.mediafire.com/?13mzpsu4arwxpa3)
SORRY FOR the punt...BUT! i want the c205 film if Lepape still has it :)