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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Rich46yo on January 21, 2015, 02:48:36 PM
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Last night I saw Latrobe fly a K4 right over the water into about 5 opponents while he was on his own. Theres a small group of players, whose names I wont mention, who do this kinda stuff and its just beautiful how they can bring out the best of an aircraft against multiple opponents. Maybe not with victory measured in perk points ; But "victory" measured with skilled flying. Against impossible odds they will stay alive, even scratching a kill or two, or three. How they keep that fighter plane maneuvering and alive is just beyond me while also keeping such a high level of S/A. The night before I saw someone in a KI-64 do almost the same tho I dont know who it was.
Its for this why I dont pick or at least ask permission before doing so. Because watching a truly skilled player is a pleasure in itself. And in an era of 5 eny B@Z'ers its even more of an enjoyment.
Often perk points dont mean a successful sortie. Often just flying well against skilled opponents brings its own "greater" reward.
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Agreed. Some of these guys are amazing. I spend some of my time purposely getting into impossible situations just to see how long I can last or maybe even get a couple and survive. I stink, but there are some players that are amazing to watch in that situation. :salute
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Moot in his 152 was another one for that. Ran into him flying to a base...4 cons were up and another lifting. We were maybe 3/4 k high. Told him I'd get the lead KI and be right there to give him a hand. My fight with the KI lasted a few minutes and turned to give him a hand. Glanced in his direction and asked him where the cons were. All I got back from him (typed on local channel) was this ------> : ). Went back landed and 5 mins later across the buffer was "Moot landed 4 kills in a TA152"
Gotta love guys like Latrobe and Moot, Tongs and a select few in game throw all caution to the wind and more often then not come out on top. We're extremely fortunate as a community to have them here
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I remember seeing Drex take on 7 cons near the deck one time, it was incredible how he made that F6F dance in the air dodging shots.
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I admire those that don't have leet skillz, yet will fight you without having every single advantage - unlike most players these days.
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I remember seeing Drex take on 7 cons near the deck one time, it was incredible how he made that F6F dance in the air dodging shots.
Same with Leviathn. Remember seeing one with Levi on the deck in a Spitfire V being jumped by 6 bandits, told him that I was on the way to help out but by the time I got there nor more than a minute or so later, he had already downed five and was about to saddle on the 6th bandit for the kill. Was amazing how fast he was able to down all 6, especially getting 3 on a single pass when he forced them to over shoot.
kappa was another one, so was Fester.
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Coach and I went up against Drex and (forget who else...Slapshot maybe) in the 3rd tier of a 2v2 at the '02 Con. It wasn't pretty but we did hold our own (Coach in his Tiffy) for 3 merges. :ahand
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kappa was another one, so was Fester.
So was Shane.
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Ah yes, the best pilot is the one who throws himself into suicidal situations and dies most of the time!
If you are fighting any competent E fighter who outnumbers you, you will die most of the time no matter how good of a turnfighter, although there are anomalies.
Moot in his 152 was another one for that. Ran into him flying to a base...4 cons were up and another lifting. We were maybe 3/4 k high.
This is not what the OP is describing I assume. Most likely used the strengths of the 152 (energy fighting) to his advantage to kill the 4 guys. Which is exactly what you should do.
Maybe if some of you read more into it, you could be more successful then throwing yourself into a red ball and delaying your death as long as possible. BUT, if thats what the community views as a FPH, then so be it.
Fighting smart can routinely win you 5+ vs 1 engagements, be it you can't start at 100 feet doing 150mph to begin with (what smart pilot gets himself into that situation in the first place?). I have a few films of winning 8-10 on 1s if you are interested in learning :)
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Ah yes, the best pilot is the one who throws himself into suicidal situations and dies most of the time!
This is not what the OP is describing I assume. Most likely used the strengths of the 152 (energy fighting) to his advantage to kill the 4 guys. Which is exactly what you should do.
Maybe if some of you read more into it, you could be more successful then throwing yourself into a red ball and delaying your death as long as possible. BUT, if thats what the community views as a FPH, then so be it.
Fighting smart can routinely win you 5+ vs 1 engagements, be it you can't start at 100 feet doing 150mph to begin with (what smart pilot gets himself into that situation in the first place?). I have a few films of winning 8-10 on 1s if you are interested in learning :)
Do you think before you start spewing your verbal vomit, or just kinda wing it?
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Do you think before you start spewing your verbal vomit, or just kinda wing it?
I see you are not interested in improving your flying. Fine by me :salute
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I see you are not interested in improving your flying. Fine by me :salute
How I fly and what I do are really none of your concern
Appologies Rich, don't mean to drag your thread thru the mud my friend
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This thread is odd :rofl
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Ah yes, the best pilot is the one who throws himself into suicidal situations and dies most of the time!
If you are fighting any competent E fighter who outnumbers you, you will die most of the time no matter how good of a turnfighter, although there are anomalies.
This is not what the OP is describing I assume. Most likely used the strengths of the 152 (energy fighting) to his advantage to kill the 4 guys. Which is exactly what you should do.
Maybe if some of you read more into it, you could be more successful then throwing yourself into a red ball and delaying your death as long as possible. BUT, if thats what the community views as a FPH, then so be it.
Fighting smart can routinely win you 5+ vs 1 engagements, be it you can't start at 100 feet doing 150mph to begin with (what smart pilot gets himself into that situation in the first place?). I have a few films of winning 8-10 on 1s if you are interested in learning :)
ahhh but you see, not only could Moot energy fight in it like most anyone can, he could turn and burn with the best and more often than not come out on top.
I've had 10 kill runs in a 38 a number of times on a single sortie with no rearms. BnZ is easy. Now if you want to get down and dirty with the 38 you watch guys like Twinboom and Pawz. They don't mind the odds being against them and more often than not win out over those "turny" planes.
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By all means, forget about my in game advice and use an ad hominem attack on me... for giving advice!
Someone is :ahand
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ahhh but you see, not only could Moot energy fight in it like most anyone can, he could turn and burn with the best and more often than not come out on top.
I've had 10 kill runs in a 38 a number of times on a single sortie with no rearms. BnZ is easy. Now if you want to get down and dirty with the 38 you watch guys like Twinboom and Pawz. They don't mind the odds being against them and more often than not win out over those "turny" planes.
You seem to be confusing energy fighting and BnZ. Those are two very good pilots who have flown the same plane for years, I don't think the typical MA pilot gives them much trouble. Turning and burning in a plane that is one of the best at energy fighting doesn't make much sense, although it can be done, it would be much more effective the other way. Which is only what I can assume he did... if not, please correct me.
Also, I can count on my hand the number of people I have crossed paths in this game that know how to energy fight properly. Again, might want to brush up on definitions, it is not "pointing the nose up and hitting WEP" like most seem to think.
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By all means, forget about my in game advice and use an ad hominem attack on me... for giving advice!
Someone is :ahand
I don't think it was asked for.....nowhere in this thread did anyone ask for advice. Now run off and go be the legend that you seem to believe you are
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I don't think it was asked for.....nowhere in this thread did anyone ask for advice. Now run off and go be the legend that you seem to believe you are
This is a discussion of people who employ tactics to be successful right? You would think players would be interested in learning ways to get better, instead of sticking to the standard community style turn and burn on the deck, and complain when anyone does anything else. Maybe its just me :headscratch:
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This is not what the OP is describing I assume. Most likely used the strengths of the 152 (energy fighting) to his advantage to kill the 4 guys. Which is exactly what you should do.
Nope, m00t liked to get down and dirty in the Ta 152, you'd often see him on the deck turn fighting in it and getting kills on reversals.
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. Maybe its just me :headscratch:
I believe it is in fact just you. We were discussing players we admired
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You seem to be confusing energy fighting and BnZ. Those are two very good pilots who have flown the same plane for years, I don't think the typical MA pilot gives them much trouble. Turning and burning in a plane that is one of the best at energy fighting doesn't make much sense, although it can be done, it would be much more effective the other way. Which is only what I can assume he did... if not, please correct me.
Also, I can count on my hand the number of people I have crossed paths in this game that know how to energy fight properly. Again, might want to brush up on definitions, it is not "pointing the nose up and hitting WEP" like most seem to think.
The point is anyone can fly his plane to his strengths and win. Those that push outside the envelope.... like turn fighting in a Ta152 like Moot was known to do is why these pilots are admired. Funny thing is they didn't walk around with a chip on their shoulder like the so called" elite" we have today do.
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The point is anyone can fly his plane to his strengths and win. Those that push outside the envelope.... like turn fighting in a Ta152 like Moot was known to do is why these pilots are admired. Funny thing is they didn't walk around with a chip on their shoulder like the so called" elite" we have today do.
I disagree with your statement of "anyone can fly his plane to his strengths and win". What about all the P51 190D LA7 "tards" that zoom around in the MA never getting below 300? They are flying to the strengths of those planes (speed) but I see very few that are successful beyond the typical 2-3 kill sorties.
Sure you can make a general high speed plane turn and beat people, thats awesome. But most people here seem to struggle with even flying conservatively and winning, so it doesn't make much sense to throw away all advantages to look cool when dying :)
Don't get me wrong, if thats what works for those pilots, great. But their flightstyle is not really helpful to the common folk if they can't do the what you guys are calling "basics".
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By all means, forget about my in game advice and use an ad hominem attack on me... for giving advice!
Someone is :ahand
We did not ask about advice. You may beat many of us E fighting, but til the time you can use your crutch of aiming with the high eny planes fights when you are at a E disadvantage we will not ask you for advice. I am willing to bet you will not last long.
Remember you are still a newb to this game. You have belonged here maybe 9 months. I give you the fact that u know how to aim. But you are a extremely timid player if you do not have the E advantage. Also you have a ego the size of Texas. Please type when you have thought about your thoughts. Not while you are thinking them
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m00t was a master...fester the same..... maybe even a bit better then m00t
poison/skydurp/kruel :rofl
not even in the same ballgame. ;)
here edited so they dont feel left out. :cry
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The point is anyone can fly his plane to his strengths and win.
No.
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By all means, forget about my in game advice and use an ad hominem attack on me... for giving advice!
Someone is :ahand
My god, what has that idiot been feeding you......we're not PLAYING this GAME to prove our manhood by getting many kills at no risk to ourselves. That is BORING and SHALLOW, in game and in REAL LIFE and proves absolutely nothing.
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By all means, forget about my in game advice and use an ad hominem attack on me... for giving advice!
Someone is :ahand
Poison is just a kid fellers. Leave him be. Unfortunately he's acting the way he's been taught to act here.
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This is a discussion of people who employ tactics to be successful right? You would think players would be interested in learning ways to get better, instead of sticking to the standard community style turn and burn on the deck, and complain when anyone does anything else. Maybe its just me :headscratch:
It's not better, it's easier, and it's not a reason for playing a game, it's to CHALLENGE oneself, and your style is no challenge.
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My god, what has that idiot been feeding you......we're not PLAYING this GAME to prove our manhood by getting many kills at no risk to ourselves. That is BORING and SHALLOW, in game and in REAL LIFE and proves absolutely nothing.
When you say "we", to whom are you referring to? And no Copprhed, I never told people how to fly, you do what you want. If you want to fly your way with your 15$, I don't mind at all.
Stay calm, bud :aok
BTW. If you want to challenge yourself, I would think you could do it by expanding outside your usual flightstyle, just like many of you are telling me. Which is what I have been doing recently. Look at it hard enough you will find it can be quite challenging :)
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It's not better, it's easier, and it's not a reason for playing a game, it's to CHALLENGE oneself, and your style is no challenge.
RedBull would enjoy making mincemeat of the Damned, maybe it's the challenge he needs to get him back. I'd even pay his script.
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Poison is just a kid fellers. Leave him be. Unfortunately he's acting the way he's been taught to act here.
Ahhhh rgr......didn't know that, thanks Changeup
Little advice from an older guy Poison, be the tree, not the shadow.
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Playing poker with Kenny Rogers gets old real fast.
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Condor,
We used to go through this with new muppets in the forum. Eventually it opened the door for the muppet clan to dive in and turn everything into them defending themselves against all of us skillz less dweebs not worthy of them. Even moot dove in back in the day.
So now Poison has only two of three options because of his age. Keep being wrong or call in skyyr and Kruel to save him. But, never option number three of getting a clue and exiting the stage with some class like grown men do. You and I may be old enough to be Poison's father contributes to his problem with leaving the stage.
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We did not ask about advice. You may beat many of us E fighting, but til the time you can use your crutch of aiming with the high eny planes fights when you are at a E disadvantage we will not ask you for advice. I am willing to bet you will not last long.
Remember you are still a newb to this game. You have belonged here maybe 9 months. I give you the fact that u know how to aim. But you are a extremely timid player if you do not have the E advantage. Also you have a ego the size of Texas. Please type when you have thought about your thoughts. Not while you are thinking them
Condor, where did you come up with that buddy? I was fighting you in the DA a lot last night and you seemed to be improving a lot. Our fights almost entirely consisted of angles.
9 months I would say is enough time to grasp this game, time is not proportional to learning level for each individual player, although it is nothing in comparison to the 10+ years some in here have had.
Oh and I'm sure bustr must be saying something totally important right now, something related to how I am a "kid" and how that gives the 'know all' right to him, I just can't see his post :D
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Condor, where did you come up with that buddy? I was fighting you in the DA a lot last night and you seemed to be improving a lot. Our fights almost entirely consisted of angles.
9 months I would say is enough time to grasp this game, time is not proportional to learning level for each individual player, although it is nothing in comparison to the 10+ years some in here have had.
Oh and I'm sure bustr must be saying something totally important right now, something related to how I am a "kid" and how that gives the 'know all' right to him, I just can't see his post :D
All true.. I am talking MA flying not DA... DA you can do that and not being worried about being picked....
MA is much more demanding on your SA and also on your knowledge of your plane.. Combine it all into a High Eny plane and you will be amazing...
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All true.. I am talking MA flying not DA... DA you can do that and not being worried about being picked....
MA is much more demanding on your SA and also on your knowledge of your plane.. Combine it all into a High Eny plane and you will be amazing...
This entire tour I have been flying my 152 low into the fight for ones that permit it, thats why my k/d is around 2-3 instead of 6-8 like it has been the last few tours. Jumping in a turny plane would be easier in this situation right?
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This entire tour I have been flying my 152 low into the fight for ones that permit it, thats why my k/d is around 2-3 instead of 6-8 like it has been the last few tours. Jumping in a turny plane would be easier in this situation right?
Not necessarily, 152 has tremendous acceleration and high E retention.. Try a 109E or 109F some P-40's or the K4 without going high.... Some early Spits.One of the hardest planes for me is the P-38G or P-39
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Not necessarily, 152 has tremendous acceleration and high E retention.. Try a 109E or 109F some P-40's or the K4 without going high.... Some early Spits.One of the hardest planes for me is the P-38G or P-39
Actually, the 152's acceleration is one of the worst in the game. At its altitude where it is fastest it takes 15 minutes even with WEP to go from climbing speed (160) to top speed.
Latrobe agrees with me here that the 109F is the best plane in the game, better then all the speed demons :devil
I flew the P38G a ton the last few tours, it is a fun plane and easy to get perks in. Could make 200 in one night when anarchy made me get killed in my 262 :cry
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109 E in the MA or BUST kiddos......... and Dahmer sure seems to enjoy fighting off the masses in a Hurricane MK1 as soon as his wheels start moving on pavement. In fact I would love to see a few of these "elite" players fly eny 35/40 planes for a tour let alone as a regular ride.... no sack I digress....
Oh wait I forgot. This game is about getting as many kills as you can per sortie.
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Oh wait I forgot. This game is about getting as many kills as you can per sortie.
Is it Dolby? I never said that it was. You are a very good pilot in the early 109s so I would guess you know that those types of planes are more helpful in a slow speed furball then a speed demon.
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Getting back on track...
I nominate JUDAS. If he doesn't end up killing me, he always makes me work for the kill. My favorite fight ever in this game involves my 109F and his Ki-84. A 7 minute knife fight the left both of us surging on adrenaline.
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Getting back on track...
I nominate JUDAS. If he doesn't end up killing me, he always makes me work for the kill. My favorite fight ever in this game involves my 109F and his Ki-84. A 7 minute knife fight the left both of us surging on adrenaline.
He's a fun fight. Had a 1v1 with him not long ago (P-38J vs. Bf 109K-4) and it was probably one of the better 1v1 fights against a Bf 109K-4 I've had in a long time.
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I disagree with your statement of "anyone can fly his plane to his strengths and win". What about all the P51 190D LA7 "tards" that zoom around in the MA never getting below 300? They are flying to the strengths of those planes (speed) but I see very few that are successful beyond the typical 2-3 kill sorties.
Sure you can make a general high speed plane turn and beat people, thats awesome. But most people here seem to struggle with even flying conservatively and winning, so it doesn't make much sense to throw away all advantages to look cool when dying :)
Don't get me wrong, if thats what works for those pilots, great. But their flightstyle is not really helpful to the common folk if they can't do the what you guys are calling "basics".
The pony has more than just speed. It's understanding the use of the instantaneous turn rates and not pushing it too far into a sustained turn. It's about getting to convergence and THEN taking your shot. It's about using the angles to get there with out burning excess E. The guys you see blowing around in the MA never getting below 300 don't KNOW their plane and so are NOT flying it to its strengths. They are just blasting around hoping for a shot now and then and count on the speed to get away when they screw up.
I'd bet there are less than 25 players playing now that can fly a plane to its strengths, because most players don't bother to learn them. They figure something fast with big cannons is best and that is all they need to know. I stand by what I said, ANYONE can fly their plane to its strengths and win, first they must learn those strengths.
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Poison is going to end up holding the record for fastest PNG
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Lynx would get my vote.
Poison is going to end up holding the record for fastest PNG
He is holding something.....
(http://loltrap.com/pictures/1a4ab15f37a1d2341d947a9996ddfbf7.jpg)
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Moot was a God. He advised me to “be the plane” (no joke) in a really good e-mail he sent me. He just dove in and smashed everyone. The best thing is you saw him coming at you, then the plane did stuff which made sense but was glorious in its efficiency. He had that whole Zen thing going.
The fight is the thing. The rest is just a meaningless score and a statistic. Admiration is for those who “drop the shoulder” and have a go despite the odds. I would much rather applaud Cameron Wake than Darnell Dockett.
Just waiting for the inevitable Kruel “SKYYLU AKBAH” post.
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The pony has more than just speed. It's understanding the use of the instantaneous turn rates and not pushing it too far into a sustained turn. It's about getting to convergence and THEN taking your shot. It's about using the angles to get there with out burning excess E. The guys you see blowing around in the MA never getting below 300 don't KNOW their plane and so are NOT flying it to its strengths. They are just blasting around hoping for a shot now and then and count on the speed to get away when they screw up.
I'd bet there are less than 25 players playing now that can fly a plane to its strengths, because most players don't bother to learn them. They figure something fast with big cannons is best and that is all they need to know. I stand by what I said, ANYONE can fly their plane to its strengths and win, first they must learn those strengths.
What you said is completely true, flying a plane to its strengths is no easy task and takes extensive knowledge of your plane to understand all your strengths. Even if you explain all those strengths to someone and they memorize every single word, it does not transition to their flying ability. That is what takes the longest, and for some people never comes. That is why I wouldn't agree with just anyone is able to be the best in a plane. If player A flies a plane to its all it strengths, player B flying the plane to its weaknesses never win, even if they were superb at flying it to its weaknesses. This is just my opinion at least, we can agree to disagree, since the P51 is your area of expertise. :salute
Poison is going to end up holding the record for fastest PNG
I don't see where I am breaking any rules by suggesting flying smart can be fun :headscratch:
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Lynx would get my vote.
I was fortunate enough to be in the same squad with Lynx, miss him something aweful.....phenomenal person
Before I die I just want to see " afk cuppa" one more time in the text buffer
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Discussing methods in which made these players successful is not on topic :headscratch:
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Why does Poison keep posting the same thing over and over?
"You are ignoring this user. Show me the post."
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m00t was a master...fester the same..... maybe even a bit better then m00t
poison/skydurp/kruel :rofl
not even in the same ballgame. ;)
here edited so they dont feel left out. :cry
Thanks for bringing up our names and squadron. Glad you think that highly of us. Who are you, again?
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This is a discussion of people who employ tactics to be successful right? You would think players would be interested in learning ways to get better, instead of sticking to the standard community style turn and burn on the deck, and complain when anyone does anything else. Maybe its just me :headscratch:
Get better, or get bored? I think you are confused. :headscratch:
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Get better, or get bored? I think you are confused. :headscratch:
:aok
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I've had the honor of flying with a number of really great people over the years. I won't name any for fear of leaving someone out, but it's really the attitude that has influenced me the most and what drives me to follow these forums when I can't fly, and try to fly for the couple weeks or months when I do have some free time again.
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:old: Learn it all, nothing is better than the other.
:old: Find what you have fun doing, if it gets boring, do something else.
:old: Zack is awesome today.
:old: I am sexier than all of you.
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Ah yes, the best pilot is the one who throws himself into suicidal situations and dies most of the time!
If you are fighting any competent E fighter who outnumbers you, you will die most of the time no matter how good of a turnfighter, although there are anomalies.
This is not what the OP is describing I assume. Most likely used the strengths of the 152 (energy fighting) to his advantage to kill the 4 guys. Which is exactly what you should do.
Maybe if some of you read more into it, you could be more successful then throwing yourself into a red ball and delaying your death as long as possible. BUT, if thats what the community views as a FPH, then so be it.
Fighting smart can routinely win you 5+ vs 1 engagements, be it you can't start at 100 feet doing 150mph to begin with (what smart pilot gets himself into that situation in the first place?). I have a few films of winning 8-10 on 1s if you are interested in learning :)
Yet Ive seen some of the very players mentioned do exactly what you say cant be done in planes they shouldn't be able to be done in and come out on top
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Joach1m,RedBull,DrSpek,Chozen,Anarchy,Poison,Snakeiis(Ratio) aka GhostCDB and many many more have all been with me for a few years now and if you ask any of them today they will tell you what Poison is doing is nothing different from what we have done in the past and present.
btw RedBull is an inactive Muppet and Spek left the game for RL.
Heck even you're guys infamous BluBerry started from TG, Apparently this guy was like a god to you few who hold these boards to Heart. :D
Edit: I forgot to add that Top*Gun is always willing to take on new members that are willing to learn multiple aspects of the game.
You don't like our Tactics then try to be open minded and after were done if you still don't like it then we can agree to disagree.
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109 E in the MA or BUST kiddos......... and Dahmer (Edit:is an idiot and only ups from a capd field he is a very bad example) sure seems to enjoy fighting off the masses in a Hurricane MK1 as soon as his wheels start moving on pavement.
Must correct errors :old:
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Luckily there are guys still flying like reckless zen masters to inspire the new recruits as has been the way for so many years. If not then all they would have for an example would be the plebs who think winning at any cost is worthy of respect.
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Get better, or get bored? I think you are confused. :headscratch:
You are missing what I'm saying. Thats ok though. I wasn't referring to people like you.
Yet Ive seen some of the very players mentioned do exactly what you say cant be done in planes they shouldn't be able to be done in and come out on top
Like what?
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Jesus the hostility here is amazing...
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The pony has more than just speed. It's understanding the use of the instantaneous turn rates and not pushing it too far into a sustained turn. It's about getting to convergence and THEN taking your shot. It's about using the angles to get there with out burning excess E. The guys you see blowing around in the MA never getting below 300 don't KNOW their plane and so are NOT flying it to its strengths. They are just blasting around hoping for a shot now and then and count on the speed to get away when they screw up.
I'd bet there are less than 25 players playing now that can fly a plane to its strengths, because most players don't bother to learn them. They figure something fast with big cannons is best and that is all they need to know. I stand by what I said, ANYONE can fly their plane to its strengths and win, first they must learn those strengths.
Agreed. Typically there are pony drivers that are either very good. Or at best average. To combine this with your statement of "I'd bet there are less than 25 players playing now that can fly a plane to its strengths, because most players don't bother to learn them."
Its not just learning the planes strengths. But its taking the time to learn its abilities. These is usually far more to a plane then just its strengths. Even a 152 and a D9 can turn with almost any plane for a period of time if you take the time to learn the planes abilities. And I do mean turn and not just roll. The trick is in knowing that limit. And learning those usually doesnt come from just flying to a planes strengths. But getting yourself in trouble and not being able to use those strengths. It forces you to learn what else that plane can do. You'd be surprised.
But like you said. Most players dont take the time to learn their planes. Not to any great depth.
You can be successful with any plane in the game. Provided you take the time to learn it
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Luckily there are guys still flying like reckless zen masters to inspire the new recruits as has been the way for so many years. If not then all they would have for an example would be the plebs who think winning at any cost is worthy of respect.
There ain't many left that are willing to step up and show the new Future of AH, Which is why it has resulted in so much poo slinging.
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Joach1m,RedBull,DrSpek,Chozen,Anarchy,Poison,Snakeiis(Ratio) aka GhostCDB and many many more have all been with me for a few years now and if you ask any of them today they will tell you what Poison is doing is nothing different from what we have done in the past and present.
btw RedBull is an inactive Muppet and Spek left the game for RL.
Heck even you're guys infamous BluBerry started from TG, Apparently this guy was like a god to you few who hold these boards to Heart. :D
Edit: I forgot to add that Top*Gun is always willing to take on new members that are willing to learn multiple aspects of the game.
You don't like our Tactics then try to be open minded and after were done if you still don't like it then we can agree to disagree.
I was never in TG, maybe that's why I suck. :eek:
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You know what I was getting at bro, I have done nothing but offer help to those who show willingness.
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I agree...
Players like m00t, Drex, Levi, Shane, kappa, Fester, etc. set the bar very high. Some still play, which is good. Anyone entering the game after this era does not have a clue...
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Grits!
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Its not just learning the planes strengths. But its taking the time to learn its abilities. These is usually far more to a plane then just its strengths. Even a 152 and a D9 can turn with almost any plane for a period of time if you take the time to learn the planes abilities. And I do mean turn and not just roll. The trick is in knowing that limit. And learning those usually doesn't come from just flying to a planes strengths. But getting yourself in trouble and not being able to use those strengths. It forces you to learn what else that plane can do. You'd be surprised.
But like you said. Most players dont take the time to learn their planes. Not to any great depth.
You can be successful with any plane in the game. Provided you take the time to learn it
Could not have said it better myself, Its why you will see me in a mossie and all the planes. Don't have one down 100% but got most of them 90% down. For me that's where I get most of my fun making all the planes do some crazy stuff. :old: See After you learn to E fight the next level is to try and do all you can in all the planes you can. Or Poison you can learn to E fight and think the next level is score and never progress pass that :uhoh
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I have seen very few players that can throw themselves into these situations and despite not always being able to win do impressively well against any number of opponents. So far I've only noticed Latrobe doing well. Back in April last year when Grizz was back for like a tour (?) I remember he and kappa flying K4's at some base where they were outnumbered and with most of the red guys (my greenies) above them.
One certain comment I remember hearing someone say while I watched them fly was "those K4's are manufacturing E". It was certainly impressive, wish I could see it more often.
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You know what I was getting at bro, I have done nothing but offer help to those who show willingness.
From my time in TG I know this to be true......those guys will help you out if you ask......you may never get the same skill as them....(I'm not very good)....but they will help you.... :old:
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Bighorn anyone?
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You are missing what I'm saying. Thats ok though. I wasn't referring to people like you.
Okay? :headscratch:
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Luckily there are guys still flying like reckless zen masters to inspire the new recruits as has been the way for so many years. If not then all they would have for an example would be the plebs who think winning at any cost is worthy of respect.
Since no one is really dying and we have nothing to lose, then getting in the fight and mixing it up regardless is the only way to go.
I know there are a bunch of folks who like nothing better than to wade into the mob and see how many they can get. If they come out the other side it's fine, but if not they know they tested themselves and probably died laughing at the fun.
Those are the folks I enjoy flying with. Thankfully most of them don't have thier egos wrapped up in the game, remembering that's really all it is.
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Could not have said it better myself, Its why you will see me in a mossie and all the planes. Don't have one down 100% but got most of them 90% down. For me that's where I get most of my fun making all the planes do some crazy stuff. :old: See After you learn to E fight the next level is to try and do all you can in all the planes you can. Or Poison you can learn to E fight and think the next level is score and never progress pass that :uhoh
But... you don't know how to E fight :headscratch:
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I admire anyone that is willing to fight....Being able to fly your plane to its abilities is important, and i applaud people who have the patience to never deviate. I just dont enjoy flying that way. I can properly fly a P51 if i wanted to, but i rarely do because its boring as hell. I will die because of that, but oh well, the Rooks seem to always give me a new plane.
This game is very cyclical... flying styles and philosophies evolve over time. Its fun to watch how new people change things, good or bad. There is a counter to every move. ..People eventually adapt and the cycle starts all over again.
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But... you don't know how to E fight :headscratch:
IkO will walk all over you. What on god's earth has happened to you....
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IkO will walk all over you. What on god's earth has happened to you....
You are not helping.
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I agree...
Players like m00t, Drex, Levi, Shane, kappa, Fester, etc. set the bar very high. Some still play, which is good. Anyone entering the game after this era does not have a clue...
Not saying these guys were not good, but at one point AH's damage model was a circle around the whole plane...making it much easy to kill and make amazing shots.... because now you actually have to hit the plane instead of the circle...
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Getting back on track...
I nominate JUDAS. If he doesn't end up killing me, he always makes me work for the kill. My favorite fight ever in this game involves my 109F and his Ki-84. A 7 minute knife fight the left both of us surging on adrenaline.
That guy is a lot of fun in a fight. Doesn't complain, just fights till the end.
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Not saying these guys were not good, but at one point AH's damage model was a circle around the whole plane...making it much easy to kill and make amazing shots.... because now you actually have to hit the plane instead of the circle...
When was that? Please give the version number. :devil
Air Warrior had a hit bubble. It also had a player who thought he could make a better flight sim. :D
The good players mentioned did not have anything easier in AH then we have now.
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When was that? Please give the version number. :devil
Air Warrior had a hit bubble. It also had a player who thought he could make a better flight sim. :D
The good players mentioned did not have anything easier in AH then we have now.
AW had a hit bubble. I dont remember AH ever having one. I do remember that point being a frustration for many new players. the lack of the hit bubble that is.
I could be wrong but I dont think so
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This is going back a whole bunch of years. Who was that guy that had that amazing U turn move? Hell. I dont even know what to call it let alone figure out how he did it..
Shane was simply amazing in the La7. Seemingly always putting himself in a severe disadvantage and seemingly almost always coming out on top.
Never seemed to matter to him. outnumbered. outgunned. Lower E, lower alt. Lower E and alt. Someone told me he was deaf ta boot.
Had some of the best SA I've ever seen. Never had to HO and just when you thought you had him. He usually proved you wrong.
I learned a lot dieing at his hands LOL. In fact some of the moves I use with the D9 I learned from watching Shane fly the La
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When I started in 2003 I was awesome in the LA 7 but they called me a dweeb. I should have stayed with it for now they would call me awesome. :banana:
The players I admire you can admire their real persona. They don't give you rage pms but a hearty :salute when they win or lose.
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I'm pretty sure in early AH1 there was a bigger hit bubble than there is now. Routinely making shots from 1.1k was not an oddity. Hitech might correct me on that though.
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IkO will walk all over you. What on god's earth has happened to you....
Ask him how our last duels went :uhoh
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I'm pretty sure in early AH1 there was a bigger hit bubble than there is now. Routinely making shots from 1.1k was not an oddity. Hitech might correct me on that though.
It was a totally different damage model. You can ask any long time player that as this game has evolved you had to relearn your shooting skills at several major updates. :airplane:
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The good players mentioned did not have anything easier in AH then we have now.
This is not true. AH1's hit model was different. AKAK has mentioned it repeatedly by version.
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This is not true. AH1's hit model was different. AKAK has mentioned it repeatedly by version.
If you think AH ever had a hit bubble surrounding the aircraft please post your reference.
Also keep in mind that any differences in damage and gunnery worked both ways.
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Whatever the hit bubble size, every player had it. The brawler wading into 5 cons with no E and no alt was a bigger target just like the guys he was fighting. It may have been easier to hit planes, but the plane you were in took hits easier as well.
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If you think AH ever had a hit bubble surrounding the aircraft please post your reference.
Also keep in mind that any differences in damage and gunnery worked both ways.
My references are:
Levi, Bighorn, Batfink, Morfiend, and Ghosth.
Please feel free to contact them directly. Thanks.
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This is not true. AH1's hit model was different. AKAK has mentioned it repeatedly by version.
That's my recollection as well. Might not have been a "bubble," but shooting planes down was easier - perhaps because they took damage differently, I don't remember. I DO remember one very prominent P-51D flyer who got angry and quit the game (for awhile) when he found he couldn't routinely shoot down enemy a/c at 1000 yards anymore.
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I want to throw Fulcrum's name into the mix....
Not because of his skill in game(we all know he has little there)...
But because he can talk ACM with the best of them here on the BBS, it's beautiful...
He also likes to send PMs about people's trolls which really brighten my day....
Thanks for being who you are Fulcrum, well I guess you might not be "being who you are" in game, word on the street is you got a new name...
But I digress, Hope your 15 year old is having as much fun playing video games as I am :aok
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I want to throw Fulcrum's name into the mix....
Not because of his skill in game(we all know he has little there)...
But because he can talk ACM with the best of them here on the BBS, it's beautiful...
He also likes to send PMs about people's trolls which really brighten my day....
Thanks for being who you are Fulcrum, well I guess you might not be "being who you are" in game, word on the street is you got a new name...
But I digress, Hope your 15 year old is having as much fun playing video games as I am :aok
:rofl
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I want to throw Fulcrum's name into the mix
I second this motion. Fulcrum has been an invaluable asset to our squadron. In fact, one of our latest (and most popular, I might add) Aces High video productions would not have been as effective or downright hilarious as it was if he hadn't predicted the way that everything was going to play out, almost to a "T." Truly, it was like having a God's-eye view into the mind of our vanquished opponents before they became so.
Coupled with his wide variety of experience in flight sims in general, he's truly a river of knowledge. He's actually quite the expert pilot in other sims as well. He's a well-rounded aviation expert.
:salute
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I second this motion. Fulcrum has been an invaluable asset to our squadron. In fact, one of our latest (and most popular, I might add) Aces High video productions would not have been as effective or downright hilarious as it was if he hadn't predicted the way that everything was going to play out, almost to a "T." Truly, it was like having a God's-eye view into the mind of our vanquished opponents before they became so.
Coupled with his wide variety of experience in flight sims in general, he's truly a river of knowledge. He's actually quite the expert pilot in other sims as well. He's a well-rounded aviation expert.
:salute
I just like virtual flying. But thanks! For the record, I've enjoyed flying with you guys.....I've learned a lot! :aok
Now if I could just give up the 110. :D
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I just like virtual flying. But thanks! For the record, I've enjoyed flying with you guys.....I've learned a lot! :aok
Now if I could just give up the 110. :D
Oh, why don't you change it back.... :aok
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Also you have a ego the size of Texas.
Texas is big, but not THAT big.
HiTech
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Texas is big, but not THAT big.
HiTech
Hahaha no doubt and that is saying something :rock
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But... you don't know how to E fight :headscratch:
Sure I do its the 1st thing you learn to stay fast :rofl, Its what you call the 1st level but I guess you didn't understand what I wrote. Sorry just bores me and way past that, if I wanted to fly like that could land 20 kills a sortie just not fun for me been playing to long for that. I probably used the re-arm pad 10 times in the last 10 years :D. Why i don't fly much any more gets boring sometimes but your new so you don't have any idea what i am talking about and the company your keeping you my never get it.
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Ask him how our last duels went :uhoh
I see you are starting pick up bad lying habits from the company that you are keeping. :O Post our 1 on 1 duels that you said we had we all would love to see them. Think you getting as delusional as your buddy and that is said because you did have potential at one time. :frown: Not sure if the community can snap you out of it before its to late.
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I see you are starting pick up bad lying habits from the company that you are keeping. :O Post our 1 on 1 duels that you said we had we all would love to see them. Think you getting as delusional as your buddy and that is said because you did have potential at one time. :frown: Not sure if the community can snap you out of it before its to late.
That's exactly it. You don't back up your claims even though claiming my flight style is basic and easy.
You should all admire me though because I'm obviously the best pilot there ever has been and ever will be in the history of combat flight sims.
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That's exactly it. You don't back up your claims even though claiming my flight style is basic and easy.
You should all admire me though because I'm obviously the best pilot there ever has been and ever will be in the history of combat flight sims.
ANNOUNCEMENT: The direct descendant of SUPERMAN himself is active on the AH BBS.
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ANNOUNCEMENT: The direct descendant of SUPERMAN himself is active on the AH BBS.
And he is a member of The Damned. 'Nuff said.
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That's exactly it. You don't back up your claims even though claiming my flight style is basic and easy.
It is simple when you believe a style who's primary goal is not to die is the best, it is best accomplished by staying in the tower. You can then 100% achieve your goal. This is exactly like real life, I would be 99% of the pilots of WWII would have preferred to stay in the tower if they had a choice.
HiTech
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And he is a member of The Damned. 'Nuff said.
Unanimously one of the most hated squads in AH history.
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Unanimously one of the most hated squads in AH history.
I wouldn't say that. The original Damned (those made up of players from AW and WB) are a good group of guys. However, their sister squadron made up of ex-members from FA, well, lets just say they are just a pale shadow and lack the class of their parent founding squadron.
ack-ack
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And he is a member of The Damned. 'Nuff said.
And here comes the peanut gallery.
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Unanimously one of the most ignored squads in AH history.
Fixed
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Unanimously one of the most hated squads in AH history.
No they aren't!!! They're pure entertainment. Their jack asstic bafoonery is absolutely mindboggling. Sig-worthy spoiler alert!!!!
The Damned are simply emotional-inhalers for each other. Our entertainment is in watching them suck.
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I wouldn't say that. The original Damned (those made up of players from AW and WB) are a good group of guys. However, their sister squadron made up of ex-members from FA, well, lets just say they are just a pale shadow and lack the class of their parent founding squadron.
ack-ack
Agreed
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No they aren't!!! They're pure entertainment. Their jack asstic bafoonery is absolutely mindboggling. Sig-worthy spoiler alert!!!!
The Damned are simply emotional-inhalers for each other. Our entertainment is in watching them suck.
:rofl
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“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
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“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
-- Dumbledore
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-- Dumbledore
Certainly you mean the little green bad-ass
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I've had the honor of flying with a number of really great people over the years. I won't name any for fear of leaving someone out, but it's really the attitude that has influenced me the most and what drives me to follow these forums when I can't fly, and try to fly for the couple weeks or months when I do have some free time again.
Been meaning to ask you Scotch, does Freez still check in with you gents? Another good guy.
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Certainly you mean the little green bad-ass
"Never tell me the odds."
-- Gandalf
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I wouldn't say that. The original Damned (those made up of players from AW and WB) are a good group of guys. However, their sister squadron made up of ex-members from FA, well, lets just say they are just a pale shadow and lack the class of their parent founding squadron.
ack-ack
Agreed. The Damned I remember we're a classy bunch. This crew can't touch that crew in terms of respect
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It is simple when you believe a style who's primary goal is not to die is the best, it is best accomplished by staying in the tower. You can then 100% achieve your goal. This is exactly like real life, I would be 99% of the pilots of WWII would have preferred to stay in the tower if they had a choice.
HiTech
Isn't the goal of historical ACM to outfly and kill the other guy while surviving? I would think all flight styles primary goal would be not to die, relatively speaking.
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Agreed. The Damned I remember we're a classy bunch. This crew can't touch that crew in terms of respect
Agreed the original AH Damned were a bunch of great guys
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Agreed the original AH Damned were a bunch of great guys
I concur with your assessment, this new flavor of the month squad it's like somebody left the tool shed open and all the tools fell out.
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:rofl
Seriously though, I'll throw in Soulyss. He's one of the reasons I wanted to learn the 38. For whatever reason I happened to be around him a bit when I first started and whether he was beating my brains in or flying on my side, he was always a cool dude.
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Isn't the goal of ACM to outfly and kill the other guy while surviving? I would think all flight styles primary goal would be not to die, relatively speaking.
The goal of everyone's style is to enjoy themselves. What that translates to in game is different for about everyone. It's easy to see why fighting from a disadvantage and winning is fun. Planes and lives are unlimited. Yes, it requires going to the tower plenty, but when it works its really fun. Even when it doesn't work, many find the fight before they die well worth it.
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The goal of everyone's style is to enjoy themselves. What that translates to in game is different for about everyone. It's easy to see why fighting from a disadvantage and winning is fun. Planes and lives are unlimited. Yes, it requires going to the tower plenty, but when it works its really fun. Even when it doesn't work, many find the fight before they die well worth it.
Sorry, should have added in RL.
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The goal of everyone's style is to enjoy themselves. What that translates to in game is different for about everyone. It's easy to see why fighting from a disadvantage and winning is fun. Planes and lives are unlimited. Yes, it requires going to the tower plenty, but when it works its really fun. Even when it doesn't work, many find the fight before they die well worth it.
AMAX me and you may fly like that because you and i don't care if we die.. if every player in this game flew with the attitude of they don't want to die this game would totally suck.
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:rofl
Seriously though, I'll throw in Soulyss. He's one of the reasons I wanted to learn the 38. For whatever reason I happened to be around him a bit when I first started and whether he was beating my brains in or flying on my side, he was always a cool dude.
And Murdr. Hopefully he'll tire of the rock star scene and all the female groupies that go with it and starts to fly again.
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Agreed the original AH Damned were a bunch of great guys
Seems the trend of new guys joining up with the established group and benefiting from credible association is beginning to be replaced with obnoxious usurping (or attempts at). There's a big difference between joining the community and attempting to take it over. I've noticed that not all former FA players are prone to the latter, however. Still, it's not like the community doesn't have a long memory and can differentiate between our beloved Damned and another group that just calls itself that. And it's not like the old sticks can't help the new sticks with said difference. While skill is admirable, character is more-so. Exhibiting both qualities (or even just the character part) makes for squadron legitimacy in this community
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Seems the trend of new guys joining up with the established group and benefiting from credible association is beginning to be replaced with obnoxious usurping (or attempts at). There's a big difference between joining the community and attempting to take it over. I've noticed that not all former FA players are prone to the latter, however. Still, it's not like the community doesn't have a long memory and can differentiate between our beloved Damned and another group that just calls itself that. And it's not like the old sticks can't help the new sticks with said difference. While skill is admirable, character is more-so. Exhibiting both qualities (or even just the character part) makes for squadron legitimacy in this community
This
And I mentioned this point in another forum. Anyone who remembers the truly great pilots in the game. Most, if not all showed the same trait, That being character. Not the bafoonary we see some exibit.
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You old farts will never learn, If you will not adapt and become stronger then you will be left behind just like the dust from you're azz.
Accept the fact that you're Glory times of old AH days are over and will never be, This is the new age of AH and in all honesty if you don't like it then quit playing. :D :aok :aok
edit: I take back the above, I would rather you stay it would give me much more Joy to watch the whines roll in.
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You old farts will never learn, If you will not adapt and become stronger then you will be left behind just like the dust from you're azz.
Accept the fact that you're Glory times of old AH days are over and will never be, This is the new age of AH and in all honesty if you don't like it then quit playing. :D :aok :aok
Love it!
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Like I said. Buffoonery
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This is what happens when, win or lose, you give every kid a ribbon when they compete.
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I admire guys like, Vilkas.
As far as where this thread, and seemingly all threads are destined to go lately...
I like Dr. Bone, and Anarchy too.
Bone makes one spot on point...Move up, move over, or move aside. Simple kombat 101.
Hopefully the rest of the pokemon catch on too.
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And Murdr.
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I wouldn't use the word 'admiration', but attitude & conduct always made a deeper and longer lasting impression on me than any cartoon flying skillz. :)
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You old farts will never learn, If you will not adapt and become stronger then you will be left behind just like the dust from you're azz.
Accept the fact that you're Glory times of old AH days are over and will never be, This is the new age of AH and in all honesty if you don't like it then quit playing. :D :aok :aok
edit: I take back the above, I would rather you stay it would give me much more Joy to watch the whines roll in.
Love it!
keep digging your own grave :pray, if you have not learned by now in reading what 98% of the community is telling you I am sure they will not miss your revenue of the very few of you. :x Posion I think you still have a chance, better bail fast and please don't drag Anarchy with ya he is a good guy :D
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You old farts will never learn, If you will not adapt and become stronger then you will be left behind just like the dust from you're azz.
Accept the fact that you're Glory times of old AH days are over and will never be, This is the new age of AH and in all honesty if you don't like it then quit playing. :D :aok :aok
edit: I take back the above, I would rather you stay it would give me much more Joy to watch the whines roll in.
:rofl
Don't mistake discussing the joys of the past with us thinking the glory days are gone. 10 yrs from now us "old farts" will still be here.....while the flash in the pan, legend in their own mind "superstars" will have moved on. But it's ok, let their meteor burn bright while they can, eventually they will turn back into an unimportant little cinder. Always have, always will. They are a dime a dozen. If there is one thing many of us have seen over the years it's just that.
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What you all keep failing to realize is (IKO,mbailey) you are a minority who feels this way and you will always be the minority.
Stampf's above post is sig worthy!.
Bone makes one spot on point...Move up, move over, or move aside. Simple kombat 101.
edit: Anarchy has been spending much time with me and If I have any say over it he will not be taking on this Muppet mentality.
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Agree regarding Soulyss - I wouldn't have ever come here if it wasn't for him, he introduced this game to me back when I was busy playing RB6 in 1999. Always a nice fellow here, I've never once heard a single complaint from or about him, not one in 15 years. I wonder where he went, I don't fly much, but usually would see him about, and haven't for nearly a year or so now. Imagine he'll wander back when the new version comes around, like so many others on these lists I hope to see.
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You old farts will never learn, If you will not adapt and become stronger then you will be left behind just like the dust from you're azz.
Accept the fact that you're Glory times of old AH days are over and will never be, This is the new age of AH and in all honesty if you don't like it then quit playing. :D :aok :aok
edit: I take back the above, I would rather you stay it would give me much more Joy to watch the whines roll in.
When did you become like this bone...I always thought very much different of you.....perhaps unclebone needs to give you a whack up side the head..... I'm just starting to shake my head at these attitudes..... you do realize that you can't have camaraderie in a narcissistic, sociopathic world right? someone is always getting played in that set up...
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You old farts will never learn, If you will not adapt and become stronger then you will be left behind just like the dust from you're azz.
Accept the fact that you're Glory times of old AH days are over and will never be, This is the new age of AH and in all honesty if you don't like it then quit playing. :D :aok :aok
edit: I take back the above, I would rather you stay it would give me much more Joy to watch the whines roll in.
You apparently misunderstand the character reference. I don't give credence to whinery, either. Please be aware. I've heard you on country channel. :D
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What you all keep failing to realize is (IKO,mbailey) you are a minority who feels this way and you will always be
Lol. Ok believe what you will. :rolleyes:
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What you all keep failing to realize is (IKO,mbailey) you are a minority who feels this way and you will always be the minority.
Stampf's above post is sig worthy!.
edit: Anarchy has been spending much time with me and If I have any say over it he will not be taking on this Muppet mentality.
Don't get me wrong Bone. 99.7 % is still drival from your mates. But I know you understand how to correct this.
Muppets? Love em, always have.
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When did you become like this bone...I always thought very much different of you.....perhaps unclebone needs to give you a whack up side the head..... I'm just starting to shake my head at these attitudes..... you do realize that you can't have camaraderie in a narcissistic, sociopathic world right? someone is always getting played in that set up...
You misunderstand my intent old friend, I have seen the same Minority preach this same nonsense since O6 Everyone else has moved on, Adapted and overcome These issues that the Minority seem to feel the need to bring to light.
I should go back and repost certain topics of my glory days and how much hassle I got from these MINORITY and many others have also had the pleasure to be abused,berated for the way we fly.
We are all different and have different flying styles, Just because someone slaps you silly with there's doesn't mean they can't be beaten on any given day.
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Ribbons to everyone? Thought they only gave one plaque out for TOC....thought only one name makes it to the next week arena message in KOTH.
You misunderstand my intent old friend, I have seen the same Minority preach this same nonsense since O6 Everyone else has moved on, Adapted and overcome These issues that the Minority seem to feel the need to bring to light.
I should go back and repost certain topics of my glory days and how much hassle I got from these MINORITY and many others have also had the pleasure to be abused,berated for the way we fly.
We are all different and have different flying styles, Just because someone slaps you silly with there's doesn't mean they can't be beaten on any given day.
please bring back some of the old threads...the bbs was much more fun a few years back when The Few was more active
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You apparently misunderstand the character reference. I don't give credence to whinery, either. Please be aware. I've heard you on country channel. :D
Who are you again? :lol
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Im still waiting for my plaque :cry
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You misunderstand my intent old friend, I have seen the same Minority preach this same nonsense since O6 Everyone else has moved on, Adapted and overcome These issues that the Minority seem to feel the need to bring to light.
I should go back and repost certain topics of my glory days and how much hassle I got from these MINORITY and many others have also had the pleasure to be abused,berated for the way we fly.
We are all different and have different flying styles, Just because someone slaps you silly with there's doesn't mean they can't be beaten on any given day.
Oh wait, you thought my post was berating your 'flying style?' Mnooooo. You're not getting it. I've been the champion of 'fly the way you want' in this community since before you discovered it. But I'm also an advocate of class and character. That goes for some of the other players that have traded posts with you and your squaddies that could have exhibited a bit more, themselves.
But, honestly, this 'We'll just form our own Damned and to hell with them' thing isn't impressing anyone.
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What you all keep failing to realize is (IKO,mbailey) you are a minority who feels this way and you will always be the minority.
Him here is another one that must not be able to read because if you did you would see who the minority is :rofl
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I've actually always enjoyed flying around, against you DrBone....don't take what I said as a personal attack against you....it wasn't intended if you did. Just disagreeing with what you said
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Who are you again? :lol
I'm the guy who watched you sink your own CV all the while broadcasting how smart it was to wait til the last possible second to turn it. I thought to myself 'Well, there it goes.' (Which, well, it did.) I also thought, 'I just wish he'd fly and shoot down things and leave the boats alone .... and get off range/county.' :aok
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I'm the guy who watched you sink your own CV all the while broadcasting how smart it was to wait til the last possible second to turn it. I thought to myself 'Well, there it goes.' (Which, well, it did.) I also thought, 'I just wish he'd fly and shoot down things and leave the boats alone .... and get off range/county.' :aok
You're speaking of my Uncle, I don't do the whole CV Captain dance.
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Agreed. The Damned I remember we're a classy bunch. This crew can't touch that crew in terms of respect
I was in the Damned when I originally came over to AH and they were a great bunch. I remember fondly the days of flying with them, heck Hitech flew with us many a night as well.
Many of the new Damned would have been booted immediately from the squad I was in for attitude alone.
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You're speaking of my Uncle, I don't do the whole CV Captain dance.
Your uncle flies as 'DrBone?' Huh. Mkay. Carry on. :D
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I've actually always enjoyed flying around, against you DrBone....don't take what I said as a personal attack against you....it wasn't intended if you did. Just disagreeing with what you said
I took no offense to anything anyone has said or will say to me in the future of this thread.
I am sure the Minority here will Agree to Disagree and Let's leave it at that. :salute :salute
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I took no offense to anything anyone has said or will say to me in the future of this thread.
I am sure the Minority here will Agree to Disagree and Let's leave it at that. :salute :salute
There's hope for you. 'Minorities' are protected, btw. ;) :salute :cheers:
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"Never tell me the odds."
-- Gandalf
:huh
Ummm....er....
:uhoh
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Anyone can fly to thier own or the plane's commonly accepted strengths.
Try flying outside of these and the victories taste even better.
Flying a plane that has very few "strengths" is also rewarding.
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Anyone can fly to thier own or the plane's commonly accepted strengths.
Try flying outside of these and the victories taste even better.
Flying a plane that has very few "strengths" is also rewarding.
:aok
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I was in the Damned when I originally came over to AH and they were a great bunch. I remember fondly the days of flying with them, heck Hitech flew with us many a night as well.
Many of the new Damned would have been booted immediately from the squad I was in for attitude alone.
Out of curiosity, when was the original damned disbanded?
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Out of curiosity, when was the original damned disbanded?
It hasn't been. There was just a difference in philosophies so we split off, but we are all Damned (as much as some might not like it).
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Out of curiosity, when was the original damned disbanded?
The original AH Damned sort of separated after Coach left, but I had moved on long before then. The person to ask would be Silat, TC, or Chief.
The AH Damned had just a few members still wearing squad tags when this new batch arrived. Shame too, the new blood could of brought them to a new hey-day but took a different direction (one I definitely don't agree with).
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What you all keep failing to realize is (IKO,mbailey) you are a minority who feels this way and you will always be the minority.
Stampf's above post is sig worthy!.
edit: Anarchy has been spending much time with me and If I have any say over it he will not be taking on this Muppet mentality.
Doc you are getting full of yourself again. I know you know better :aok
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Doc you are getting full of yourself again. I know you know better :aok
He is getting full of himself because he disagrees with you?
This seems to be the general mindset of the entire community... lol.
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He is getting full of himself because he disagrees with you?
This seems to be the general mindset of the entire community... lol.
I was talking to Doc. He knows what I'm talking about. Since you know little of our history, you really aren't in a place to comment. I've seen Doc at his best in game and I don't mean in how he flies cartoon airplanes. When it looks like he's getting away from that, I'll say something out of respect to him.
I also figure he's capable of representing himself.
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Dan, when you refer to him as Doc, I see DoK. I'm not sure which one of their uncles I've met. ;)
http://www.gonzoville.com/FILEZ/Tao_of_Dok.pdf
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Dan, when you refer to him as Doc, I see DoK. I'm not sure which one of their uncles I've met. ;)
http://www.gonzoville.com/FILEZ/Tao_of_Dok.pdf
Heh. Wonder what ever happened to Slug?
- oldman
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He is getting full of himself because he disagrees with you?
This seems to be the general mindset of the entire community... lol.
To be a young knowitall again...
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He is getting full of himself because he disagrees with you?
This seems to be the general mindset of the entire community... lol.
Out of Respect for Me Poison please stop posting.
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I was talking to Doc. He knows what I'm talking about. Since you know little of our history, you really aren't in a place to comment. I've seen Doc at his best in game and I don't mean in how he flies cartoon airplanes. When it looks like he's getting away from that, I'll say something out of respect to him.
I also figure he's capable of representing himself.
I honestly think you along with most are reading too much into what I have said.
Pm Sent. :salute
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<<<<<<<<<<< see this guy , after reading the title of this thread you should admire me for still playing this game so you guys have a target to shoot. there are alot of us new players who are sticking around who are constant targets for you vets. we get shot down in so many ways its hard to keep track. when i first started i was the best drill bit in the game . yup i know everybody has the same beginning as we have, but if it wasnt for the new players who give it their all and keep coming back for more. trust me and im sure you all can relate its not easy to keep losing in a game and keep playing it anyways. so remember when ya shoot us down be nice , we dont need to hear the noob word or he doesnt know what he is doing. have a little respect for the guys who are trying. at least admire there effort.
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He is getting full of himself because he disagrees with you?
This seems to be the general mindset of the entire community... lol.
Slow your roll.
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<<<<<<<<<<< see this guy , after reading the title of this thread you should admire me for still playing this game so you guys have a target to shoot. there are alot of us new players who are sticking around who are constant targets for you vets. we get shot down in so many ways its hard to keep track. when i first started i was the best drill bit in the game . yup i know everybody has the same beginning as we have, but if it wasnt for the new players who give it their all and keep coming back for more. trust me and im sure you all can relate its not easy to keep losing in a game and keep playing it anyways. so remember when ya shoot us down be nice , we dont need to hear the noob word or he doesnt know what he is doing. have a little respect for the guys who are trying. at least admire there effort.
:salute
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if i reply i will get a PNGso Poison have fun
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i admire the down low fighters who leave you (and everyone else) in the dirt and make you think "wow that was awesome". Greebo comes to mind and the ki fighter tongs and, 109 fighter latrobe; catching bruv in his spit was fun. king of the hill would bring these types out and was good fun akdog in a f4u, krumpski in a jug, and biggamer in, well i have memorys of him working a field in a lancaster that was special.
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if i reply i will get a PNGso Poison have fun
Who r u again :O
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<<<<<<<<<<< see this guy , after reading the title of this thread you should admire me for still playing this game so you guys have a target to shoot. there are alot of us new players who are sticking around who are constant targets for you vets. we get shot down in so many ways its hard to keep track. when i first started i was the best drill bit in the game . yup i know everybody has the same beginning as we have, but if it wasnt for the new players who give it their all and keep coming back for more. trust me and im sure you all can relate its not easy to keep losing in a game and keep playing it anyways. so remember when ya shoot us down be nice , we dont need to hear the noob word or he doesnt know what he is doing. have a little respect for the guys who are trying. at least admire there effort.
You are 100% right :salute
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<<<<<<<<<<< see this guy , after reading the title of this thread you should admire me for still playing this game so you guys have a target to shoot. there are alot of us new players who are sticking around who are constant targets for you vets. we get shot down in so many ways its hard to keep track. when i first started i was the best drill bit in the game . yup i know everybody has the same beginning as we have, but if it wasnt for the new players who give it their all and keep coming back for more. trust me and im sure you all can relate its not easy to keep losing in a game and keep playing it anyways. so remember when ya shoot us down be nice , we dont need to hear the noob word or he doesnt know what he is doing. have a little respect for the guys who are trying. at least admire there effort.
Quoted for Truth.
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<<<<<<<<<<< see this guy , after reading the title of this thread you should admire me for still playing this game so you guys have a target to shoot. there are alot of us new players who are sticking around who are constant targets for you vets. we get shot down in so many ways its hard to keep track. when i first started i was the best drill bit in the game . yup i know everybody has the same beginning as we have, but if it wasnt for the new players who give it their all and keep coming back for more. trust me and im sure you all can relate its not easy to keep losing in a game and keep playing it anyways. so remember when ya shoot us down be nice , we dont need to hear the noob word or he doesnt know what he is doing. have a little respect for the guys who are trying. at least admire there effort.
Magic58 1-0 Community
we all just got freakin owned by a noob Hahahahaha had to say it
:salute sir ..... you have what we have forgotten/lost/need to get back
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Who r u again :O
He's someone that has been playing and been part of this community for a lot longer than you have.
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He's someone that has been playing and been part of this community for a lot longer than you have.
Really? I've been around for 13 years....so he's pretty damn old...and I've never heard of him.
Just curious. ;)
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Really? I've been around for 13 years....so he's pretty damn old...and I've never heard of him.
Just curious. ;)
Really you've never heard of lawndart?
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Really you've never heard of lawndart?
Ah! Well in that case, yes. :)
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You old farts will never learn, If you will not adapt and become stronger then you will be left behind just like the dust from you're azz.
Accept the fact that you're Glory times of old AH days are over and will never be, This is the new age of AH and in all honesty if you don't like it then quit playing. :D :aok :aok
edit: I take back the above, I would rather you stay it would give me much more Joy to watch the whines roll in.
Too much too much. Im out. With all due respect, I think I'd rather fly with the old farts.
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<--- this guy and you may ask why and i will say well why not he's awesome :airplane:
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Too much too much. Im out. With all due respect, I think I'd rather fly with the old farts.
Was fun while it lasted but you will see no remorse from me.
I stand by what I said. :ahand
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if i reply i will get a PNGso Poison have fun
Let me calm him down bro, Btw LawnDart you don't seem to answer you're PM's!!
You coming for this years gathering? :salute
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<<<<<<<<<<< see this guy , after reading the title of this thread you should admire me for still playing this game so you guys have a target to shoot. there are alot of us new players who are sticking around who are constant targets for you vets. we get shot down in so many ways its hard to keep track. when i first started i was the best drill bit in the game . yup i know everybody has the same beginning as we have, but if it wasnt for the new players who give it their all and keep coming back for more. trust me and im sure you all can relate its not easy to keep losing in a game and keep playing it anyways. so remember when ya shoot us down be nice , we dont need to hear the noob word or he doesnt know what he is doing. have a little respect for the guys who are trying. at least admire there effort.
AMEN! We don't need more "ELITE" pilots like SKYYR or poison, or some other posters in here. We need more GOOD PEOPLE like NRShida, Fudmukkr, RedBull, Latrobe, Debrody, ThreeUp, NikonGuy...the list goes on...Tongs, Simon, SEagle, F77, 50CALMG, Rollya, DikTatr. There are more of us then there are of you, and you resent it. Good.
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I don't know I think Skyyr is filling the entertainment void since no-one else has stepped up. Least he posts user friendly Youtube vids.
As for your list coppr I think even some of those have had their moments. ;)
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Out of curiosity, when was the original damned disbanded?
It never was...officially. After the demise of Air Warrior, about 70+ Damned came over to AH1. So did the MAW's, AK's, LTAR'S and many other mega-squads. If you think there are hordes now, you should have been around on Sunday evenings back in those days. Granted there was a LOT of base taking, but the FIGHT took priority over winning the war. And fight we did. Guys like DmdDano, Fool, Ren, Coach, TC, Silat (many,many more) were top sticks and their wingman tactics were legendary.
The Damned Hay Day ran between 2002 - 2006. During that time some squaddies passed away :salute others lost interest, real life obligations sidelined others. The Damned had a very active elist/newsgroup. Unfortunately, the topic of politics (go figure :huh ) embroiled many squad members. The long time CO left and was replaced by another. More in-fighting ensued and slowly but surely the squad fell apart. Perhaps Tequila Chaser can tag on to my memories.
I sure do miss the "good ole days".
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what smart pilot gets himself into that situation in the first place?
Ones that know they learn more about ACM in that situation than otherwise.
Ones that dont care about score.
Also, ones that dont hesitate to bail out a countrymen.
...and Wofat of course (he is silly that way).
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Let me calm him down bro, Btw LawnDart you don't seem to answer you're PM's!!
You coming for this years gathering? :salute
I will try... it all depends on work and how things are going here. If I do come I will bring the boom booms ..
LawnDart
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Those were good days MAX. I miss a lot of those guys and really enjoyed AKCurly.
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Stampf.
He has what I consider the leadership qualities that attracts a real team and has made the best squad in the game. Flying with him is always fun, immersive and JG11 employs proven tactics for success under his leadership.
I admire those who bring more to the game than they take. Is he the best pilot in the game? No. If he was, I can guarantee it would not change him as he is a humble human with complete control of his ego.
I've played for more than 20 years through AW WB and now AH and have been in probably 20 squads. I've had very good squad CO's and great fellow fighter pilots but there isn't a close second to what Stampf brings to the game.
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Stampf.
He has what I consider the leadership qualities that attracts a real team and has made the best squad in the game. Flying with him is always fun, immersive and JG11 employs proven tactics for success under his leadership.
I admire those who bring more to the game than they take. Is he the best pilot in the game? No. If he was, I can guarantee it would not change him as he is a humble human with complete control of his ego.
I've played for more than 20 years through AW WB and now AH and have been in probably 20 squads. I've had very good squad CO's and great fellow fighter pilots but there isn't a close second to what Stampf brings to the game.
If there is such a thing as a "professional" in a video game he would be it. :aok
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+ 1 for Stampf. His commitment to the game and FSO as well as his general attitude is a rare thing here. Always has a kind word for members, and is able to get into the discussions without being dragged into the mud slinging somehow.
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It never was...officially. After the demise of Air Warrior, about 70+ Damned came over to AH1. So did the MAW's, AK's, LTAR'S and many other mega-squads. If you think there are hordes now, you should have been around on Sunday evenings back in those days. Granted there was a LOT of base taking, but the FIGHT took priority over winning the war. And fight we did. Guys like DmdDano, Fool, Ren, Coach, TC, Silat (many,many more) were top sticks and their wingman tactics were legendary.
The Damned Hay Day ran between 2002 - 2006. During that time some squaddies passed away :salute others lost interest, real life obligations sidelined others. The Damned had a very active elist/newsgroup. Unfortunately, the topic of politics (go figure :huh ) embroiled many squad members. The long time CO left and was replaced by another. More in-fighting ensued and slowly but surely the squad fell apart. Perhaps Tequila Chaser can tag on to my memories.
I sure do miss the "good ole days".
Good post Max...... I recently returned after a 6-7 year absence. I too long for the "good old days" . I know the Maw kinda got caught up in real life (I had kids and that took my flying time ) ..... and some peoples political views used to create problems . The biggest thing i remember about the old days was there seemed to be more mutual respect for opponents ....salutes win or lose. And if you found a 1V1 fight your opponent nor yourself would use a HO as your opening move. I miss the 600+ player nights where there was a brawl just about anywhere you looked...... but maybe AH3 will bring some of the older guys back ......here's to hoping . <S>
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As for your list coppr I think even some of those have had their moments. ;)
We have all had moments....but to have a years worth of moments :aok
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Out of curiosity, when was the original damned disbanded?
It wasn't. The Damned that you're referring to came to AH from AW. What few people know is that TC went over to Fighter Ace (FA) and started The Damned there as well back in 98-99, but then left after a period of time. The Damned in FA shortly disbanded, then regrouped with new leadership of a player named BlunderingFool. Leadership eventually fell to Smokin, Raptor, and a few other FA pilots, until the close of FA back in 2010. Most of us took a hiatus from sims after that, but a few of us came over to AH in late 2013.
When we came over to AH, we flew with TC and the original "Damned AH crew" for awhile, but we determined that we were best off remaining separate due to philosophical differences. TC's Damned is still intact and a few of their members fly actively.
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Stampf.
He has what I consider the leadership qualities that attracts a real team and has made the best squad in the game. Flying with him is always fun, immersive and JG11 employs proven tactics for success under his leadership.
I admire those who bring more to the game than they take. Is he the best pilot in the game? No. If he was, I can guarantee it would not change him as he is a humble human with complete control of his ego.
I've played for more than 20 years through AW WB and now AH and have been in probably 20 squads. I've had very good squad CO's and great fellow fighter pilots but there isn't a close second to what Stampf brings to the game.
If there is such a thing as a "professional" in a video game he would be it. :aok
+ 1 for Stampf. His commitment to the game and FSO as well as his general attitude is a rare thing here. Always has a kind word for members, and is able to get into the discussions without being dragged into the mud slinging somehow.
Wow. Glad I checked back in here today. Thank you Gentlemen. Those are kind words, and you all put a smile on my face here. Zoney makes the point that guides me - Add to the game, do not take away from it, or from others experiences in it.
I take fun, and the game serious, not myself.
<S>
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Wow. Glad I checked back in here today. Thank you Gentlemen. Those are kind words, and you all put a smile on my face here. Zoney makes the point that guides me - Add to the game, do not take away from it, or from others experiences in it.
I take fun, and the game serious, not myself.
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Don't start getting the big head now, you hear? :cheers:
Seriously, you are good example for others to follow - I see it in your squad's interaction in events.
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It never was...officially. After the demise of Air Warrior, about 70+ Damned came over to AH1. So did the MAW's, AK's, LTAR'S and many other mega-squads. If you think there are hordes now, you should have been around on Sunday evenings back in those days. Granted there was a LOT of base taking, but the FIGHT took priority over winning the war. And fight we did. Guys like DmdDano, Fool, Ren, Coach, TC, Silat (many,many more) were top sticks and their wingman tactics were legendary.
The Damned Hay Day ran between 2002 - 2006. During that time some squaddies passed away :salute others lost interest, real life obligations sidelined others. The Damned had a very active elist/newsgroup. Unfortunately, the topic of politics (go figure :huh ) embroiled many squad members. The long time CO left and was replaced by another. More in-fighting ensued and slowly but surely the squad fell apart. Perhaps Tequila Chaser can tag on to my memories.
I sure do miss the "good ole days".
:aok
Lot of great guys there, Coach always good for a laugh, NB aka Fidel, always a great guy and was one of the first guys to help me out on aolhell when AW started there.. And everyone has a comment for Silat- good peeps and was always a lot of fun -back in the day :)
NwBie
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If there is such a thing as a "professional" in a video game he would be it. :aok
I couldnt agree enough :aok
AMEN! We don't need more "ELITE" pilots like SKYYR or poison, or some other posters in here. We need more GOOD PEOPLE like NRShida, Fudmukkr, RedBull, Latrobe, Debrody, ThreeUp, NikonGuy...the list goes on...Tongs, Simon, SEagle, F77, 50CALMG, Rollya, DikTatr. There are more of us then there are of you, and you resent it. Good.
Yes to all these, but dont sell yourself short, your name as well should be on that list.....
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Wow. Glad I checked back in here today. Thank you Gentlemen. Those are kind words, and you all put a smile on my face here. Zoney makes the point that guides me - Add to the game, do not take away from it, or from others experiences in it.
I take fun, and the game serious, not myself.
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I think you're a potty mouth.
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I think you're a potty mouth.
:rofl
Terrible at times for sure. This is a fight'n game afterall. I'll never forget back in the AvA how much crap 'TheBug" used to give me...damn he could sling the smack right up there with the likes of Shane. :aok Then when he finally joined the 11th he says, "Damn, you guys aren't so nice afterall." No, we're no angels indeed. I suppose the only real difference is we have always kept in in house and on squad vox. I have always stressed humility in victory. I don't care for boasters. When you become...elite...in any endeavor...you don't have to tell people yourself. When you never have to defend your squadron, for others will do it for you...you know you have arrived. I think that one thing as much as anything has allowed the squad to persevere this long considering the particulars involved.
That, and good men. You have to have good men.
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Add to the game, do not take away from it, or from others experiences in it.
I take fun, and the game serious, not myself. <S>
I couldn't agree with this more. There are many players who are committed to contributing something positive to the game, above and beyond their own enjoyment of it, who should be recognized and admired -- whether it is in designing and CMing events, running an FSO squad, training others in the TA, or simply giving people a good fight in the MA without chest-beating and saluting win or lose.
It would be great if every current player (especially members of "the new damned") read this and gave it a bit of thought. It is noteworthy that this is the approach that gets you on people's "Players to admire" list. The fact that many players do this without needing to get their names up in lights is what is good about this community -- it's not a failing, as the damned try to make it out to be.
Sadly the one leading their charge here in the forum and in the MA is beyond hope. You know he's admitted to doing the same thing in Fighter Ace for ten years. His attitude and intentions in Aces High can be summed up single statement he recently made on 200: "I don't care if Aces High fails. If HTC closed their doors tomorrow, I would laugh hysterically." -Skyyr
I encourage the community to ignore him and move on. Maybe there is some hope for others in his squad who will eventually learn that posting and boasting, regardless of how good you think your score is, will not get you a wide measure of respect or admiration -- it only gets attention. Attention gained is short lived. Respect earned will last a long, long time.
My two cents...
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How does every thread turns into a damned roast (pun intended). Not that I am a fan of the damned, but this endless attention just derails every thread. Just ignore them.
Of course my advice above is self-violating, but there was no way to deliver it without mentioning the specific case. :rolleyes:
Players I admired (looking back over 14 years since they are gone now): Drex and Lephturn. I learned a lot from both and the AHF films that they posted. Drex was just crazy good. Lephturn went out of his way to help noobs and get them into the game, both in the arenas and on the forum. Then there were Sancho and Frenchy from which I learned that any plane can dogfight and in particular the Jugs can mix it up. Frenchy is still around so don't tell him I said that. These days I admire ET37 - not because he is exceptionally good, but because he always gets something interesting going in what would otherwise be a dull evening in Rookland. His are the only missions that I join. Pipz I admire for openly admitting to be a Canadian.
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:rofl
Terrible at times for sure. This is a fight'n game afterall. I'll never forget back in the AvA how much crap 'TheBug" used to give me...damn he could sling the smack right up there with the likes of Shane. :aok Then when he finally joined the 11th he says, "Damn, you guys aren't so nice afterall." No, we're no angels indeed. I suppose the only real difference is we have always kept in in house and on squad vox. I have always stressed humility in victory. I don't care for boasters. When you become...elite...in any endeavor...you don't have to tell people yourself. When you never have to defend your squadron, for others will do it for you...you know you have arrived. I think that one thing as much as anything has allowed the squad to persevere this long considering the particulars involved.
That, and good men. You have to have good men.
It wasn't a complaint by the way :D
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I couldn't agree with this more. There are many players who are committed to contributing something positive to the game above and beyond their own enjoyment of it who should be recognized -- whether it is in designing and CMing events, running an FSO squad, training others in the TA, or simply giving people a good fight in the MA without chest-beating and saluting win or lose.
It would be great if every current player (especially members of "the new damned") read this and gave it a bit of thought. It is noteworthy that this is the approach that gets you on people's "Players to admire" list. The fact that many players do this without needing to get their names up in lights is what is good about this community -- it's not a failing, as the damned try to make it out to be.
Sadly the one leading their charge here in the forum and in the MA is beyond hope. You know he's admitted to doing the same thing in Fighter Ace for ten years. His attitude and intentions in Aces High can be summed up single statement he recently made on 200: "I don't care if Aces High fails. If HTC closed their doors tomorrow, I would laugh hysterically." -Skyyr
I encourage the community to ignore him and move on. Maybe there is some hope for others in his squad who will eventually learn that posting and boasting, regardless of how good you think your score is, will not get you a wide measure of respect or admiration -- it only gets attention, not admiration. Attention gained is short lived. Respect earned will last a long, long time.
My two cents...
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yup ryno you deserve credit for your efforts , you changed me from a drill bit to at least a fighting chance now :salute
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Good Gawd Stampf. I'm not even in your squad and after reading that, I'd follow you into a buzzsaw. :rock :D
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How does every thread turns into a damned roast (pun intended). Not that I am a fan of the damned, but this endless attention just derails every thread. Just ignore them.
Of course my advice above is self-violating, but there was no way to deliver it without mentioning the specific case. :rolleyes:
Players I admired (looking back over 14 years since they are gone now): Drex and Lephturn. I learned a lot from both and the AHF films that they posted. Drex was just crazy good. Lephturn went out of his way to help noobs and get them into the game, both in the arenas and on the forum. Then there were Sancho and Frenchy from which I learned that any plane can dogfight and in particular the Jugs can mix it up. Frenchy is still around so don't tell him I said that. These days I admire ET37 - not because he is exceptionally good, but because he always gets something interesting going in what would otherwise be a dull evening in Rookland. His are the only missions that I join. Pipz I admire for openly admitting to be a Canadian.
totally agree ET37 has by far the best and most interesting missions ,not to mention the most humor
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Stampf.
He has what I consider the leadership qualities that attracts a real team and has made the best squad in the game. Flying with him is always fun, immersive and JG11 employs proven tactics for success under his leadership.
I admire those who bring more to the game than they take. Is he the best pilot in the game? No. If he was, I can guarantee it would not change him as he is a humble human with complete control of his ego.
I've played for more than 20 years through AW WB and now AH and have been in probably 20 squads. I've had very good squad CO's and great fellow fighter pilots but there isn't a close second to what Stampf brings to the game.
:aok
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can be summed up single statement he recently made on 200:
Would you happen to have a screenshot of that quote? Or film?
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How does every thread turns into a damned roast (pun intended). Not that I am a fan of the damned, but this endless attention just derails every thread. Just ignore them.
Because certain people feel the need to reinforce their dogma.
This is why we prefer competition and objectivity when it comes to gameplay and guidelines; believe what you want and, if it's true, you'll be vindicated when you win. If you lose, it might not really be that great of a position to hold.
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Nothing wrong with measuring by the objective rulers available in this game, but many fly and interact based on reaching goals that aren't measured by score, wins, rank, or perks. Its like weekend softball. Some are there to get the plastic trophy for their mantle as priority #1 and others are more concerned with the fundraiser for new bleachers, keeping the cooler full and ribs seasoned for the BBQ after the game. Most have some balance of both.
With the right attitude they can all have a good time.
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Would you happen to have a screenshot of that quote? Or film?
I auto-film and save most of my sorties, so yes I probably do have it on film.
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I auto-film and save most of my sorties, so yes I probably do have it on film.
Please post it. I believe it and want it proved once and for all.
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I auto-film and save most of my sorties, so yes I probably do have it on film.
Ah, so you put quotes around something that you didn't copy verbatim. Got it. That explains the inaccuracy.
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Would you happen to have a screenshot of that quote? Or film?
:noid
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Ah, so you put quotes around something that you didn't copy verbatim. Got it. That explains the inaccuracy.
I quoted it precisely as I recall it being said. Unfortunately, I am not at my gaming computer at the moment, so I can't post a screen shot. The reason I remember the comment is because it struck a chord with me and I found the comment very revealing. You can call it "inaccurate" but that is the gist of what you said.
Are you now denying that you said you would laugh if the game shut down tomorrow?
I believe it was in discussion with either Scotch or Dodger on 200. Perhaps they recall it as well, since it was directed at them.
p.s. My apologies to the community for dragging this subject out. I was baited into responding and will do so no longer. Time to follow my own advice. Let's get off the subject of this character and take a 180 back onto to the subject of admirable characteristics in AH players.
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Ah, so you put quotes around something that you didn't copy verbatim. Got it. That explains the inaccuracy.
Is this going to be a semantics or context excuse (because if you 200 texted anything even close to that you may be better off using the 'high on crack' defense). My squadie, Ryno, isn't in the habit of making things up.
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Been meaning to ask you Scotch, does Freez still check in with you gents? Another good guy.
Last time heard from Freez he posted a bunch of hawt IDF (the real ones) women w/ rifles.. Was pretty good stuff.. He was deployed at the time but doing well.. Thats been a minute though..
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Last time heard from Freez he posted a bunch of hawt IDF women w/ rifles.. Was pretty good stuff.. He was deployed at the time but doing well.. Thats been a minute though..
How do we get in touch with them ... errr ... him?
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Is this going to be a semantics or context excuse (because if you 200 texted anything even close to that you may be better off using the 'high on crack' defense). My squadie, Ryno, isn't in the habit of making things up.
Both. The discussion was over someone claiming that I and a few others were going to ruin the game because of our flying, and that we wouldn't know what to do with our time if Aces High shut down, as we had played like 70 hours for the tour (apparently, that amount of time is indicative of an empty lifestyle, despite other players having 3x that). I replied that if it did shut down, I'd simply laugh and go to another hobby. However, the players making such claims would actually have problems filling that void themselves.
There was nothing malicious whatsoever about the comment - it was purely for ironic purposes. I obviously pay for Aces High, so why would I enjoy or find it funny that it was shut down? At the same time it's a game, and it has no real signifigance or importance. It was completely taken out of context.
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yup ryno you deserve credit for your efforts , you changed me from a drill bit to at least a fighting chance now :salute
You're definitely dedicated, I'll give you that .
:salute
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People I admire:
Insert friend list\squaddies
People who will ruin the game:
People with whom I have idiological differences with.
/end thread
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Is this going to be a semantics or context excuse (because if you 200 texted anything even close to that you may be better off using the 'high on crack' defense). My squadie, Ryno, isn't in the habit of making things up.
Arlo, my quote is much closer to what was actually said. Yes, it was in the context of taking the game seriously, but there was no mention of "I would find another hobby" nor was it said "I would move on". It was "I don't care. If the game shut down tomorrow I would laugh (adverb)." That was all.
Why do I think that reveals character? The words "I would laugh". I honestly believe he would find it funny. I think his disdain for the community and his desire to change it shows that. The fact that he owns multiple accounts that he logs in on opposite sides to hunt and grief players says a lot also. (This is not something he can debate, as he has admitted to doing so.) It is evidenced by far more than just this one quote -- I just picked it because I thought it said a lot. In this case, we're dealing with someone who thrives on conflict and uses the word "competition" to disguise it. I'm not sure he sees the difference. I've spoken with some of his squaddies and they've verified this. There are plenty of examples and reasons demonstrated in game and on this forum every day as to why the best course is simply to ignore them, rather than grant the conflict and attention being sought.
I wasted enough time with others, like Midway back when he was the forum topic du jour, to recognize when I'll be wasting my time in direct discussion with someone. That is why my comments on the subject shall remain aimed at the community, for the betterment of the community.
Let's ignore this other "topic" and get back to people who contribute something positive to the community and are "Players to admire" please.
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Ryno
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Just going to get a little off topic here to post this video because it perfectly suits what's going on in AH2 right now and I thought I'd share it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vciR0TPpM
And now, as Kingpin said, let's get back on topic. People I admire in not only this game but any game ever are people who have a positive attitude, are fun and funny to play with, and generally bring a positive to the community and the game. People like raynos, Glzz, Crabby, Copprhed, RedBull, ammo, Player1, and many many MANY more that I simply can not list in 1 post. These players all have different flying styles, different skill levels, some are just unbeatable in their favorite plan, and others are just joe average, but what they all have in common is they are fun to be around and play with. I want more people like these guys in the game! :salute :cheers:
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Latrobe that link is spot on everything that the guy was talking about the same thing I think and feel everybody needs to listen to that.
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Because certain people feel the need to reinforce their dogma.
This is why we prefer competition and objectivity when it comes to gameplay and guidelines; believe what you want and, if it's true, you'll be vindicated when you win. If you lose, it might not really be that great of a position to hold.
You just will never get it will you, the one fight you can not win is with our long standing community.
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HAHA School girls ....
<S>Latrobe
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Just going to get a little off topic here to post this video because it perfectly suits what's going on in AH2 right now and I thought I'd share it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vciR0TPpM
And now, as Kingpin said, let's get back on topic. People I admire in not only this game but any game ever are people who have a positive attitude, are fun and funny to play with, and generally bring a positive to the community and the game. People like raynos, Glzz, Crabby, Copprhed, RedBull, ammo, Player1, and many many MANY more that I simply can not list in 1 post. These players all have different flying styles, different skill levels, some are just unbeatable in their favorite plan, and others are just joe average, but what they all have in common is they are fun to be around and play with. I want more people like these guys in the game! :salute :cheers:
FINALLY!!! Someone mentioned me! :x
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Latrobe must be drunk if I got meantioned...
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Just going to get a little off topic here to post this video because it perfectly suits what's going on in AH2 right now and I thought I'd share it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vciR0TPpM
I'd say thats pretty damn accurate
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Wow this thread has been a nice trip down memory lane, lots of great names that I remember very fondly. I'm amazed that I even earned an honorable mention in there somewhere. I think Stampf hit the nail on the head, it's up to each person to decide if they want to add to the game and community or detract from it, and how each person carries themselves says a lot more in what people think and how you're remembered than how many cartoon airplanes you can down.
Dusted the 'ol stick off tonight and spend 30-40 minutes embarrassing myself in the TA, so that I can be ready to spend 3 hours embarrassing myself tomorrow in the scenario, and I look forward to embarrassing myself some more in the MA after that. :)
:cheers:
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Wow this thread has been a nice trip down memory lane, lots of great names that I remember very fondly. I'm amazed that I even earned an honorable mention in there somewhere. I think Stampf hit the nail on the head, it's up to each person to decide if they want to add to the game and community or detract from it, and how each person carries themselves says a lot more in what people think and how you're remembered than how many cartoon airplanes you can down.
Dusted the 'ol stick off tonight and spend 30-40 minutes embarrassing myself in the TA, so that I can be ready to spend 3 hours embarrassing myself tomorrow in the scenario, and I look forward to embarrassing myself some more in the MA after that. :)
:cheers:
Wow now there's a name welcome back Soulyss
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Wow now there's a name welcome back Soulyss
:salute
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Wow this thread has been a nice trip down memory lane, lots of great names that I remember very fondly. I'm amazed that I even earned an honorable mention in there somewhere. I think Stampf hit the nail on the head, it's up to each person to decide if they want to add to the game and community or detract from it, and how each person carries themselves says a lot more in what people think and how you're remembered than how many cartoon airplanes you can down.
Dusted the 'ol stick off tonight and spend 30-40 minutes embarrassing myself in the TA, so that I can be ready to spend 3 hours embarrassing myself tomorrow in the scenario, and I look forward to embarrassing myself some more in the MA after that. :)
:cheers:
Wow :salute Soulyss
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Wow this thread has been a nice trip down memory lane, lots of great names that I remember very fondly. I'm amazed that I even earned an honorable mention in there somewhere. I think Stampf hit the nail on the head, it's up to each person to decide if they want to add to the game and community or detract from it, and how each person carries themselves says a lot more in what people think and how you're remembered than how many cartoon airplanes you can down.
Dusted the 'ol stick off tonight and spend 30-40 minutes embarrassing myself in the TA, so that I can be ready to spend 3 hours embarrassing myself tomorrow in the scenario, and I look forward to embarrassing myself some more in the MA after that. :)
:cheers:
:rock :rock
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Let's ignore this other "topic" and get back to people who contribute something positive to the community and are "Players to admire" please.
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Ryno
Right on. :cheers:
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Tonight's FSO was a great example of all things outstanding for me in this game. I signed in to the SEA Arena and had 20 mates to fly with. 20 guys who want to stay up late, or get up early in Swoops case, too fly with me. Triton of AoM was Axis CiC and he had given me a tough assignment tonight. 3 1/2 sectors - 85 miles down the Bougainville slot in A6M5's with a single centerline 250 kg bomb. My mission - Destroy the US air base there and all the air wing assigned. Had 10 lads from the 162nd FG in A6m2's for company.
Hairy doesn't come close to what we saw tonight. It was 'The Slot' from Papy Boyington and Ba Ba Black Sheep, only in reverse. My boys were to be the flaming zekes getting painted onto the sides of those big arse Corsair's. No, not this time. I took the flight on an end around and came into the target unmolested. We delivered our ordinance onto the target...didn't hit a damn thing...never said we were bomber pilots, then set about engaging the F4u's, P-39's and P-40's that appeared on the scene with bad intent on their mind. Out gunned, out classed and fighting from an altitude disadvantage after our attack, I encouraged to the boys to...own the fight...to fight it on their terms and simply take the initiative and never give it back. And so it was...we destroyed the entire CAP, 18 souls in all, for the loss of 10 men KIA. I'll take that every time in an attack mission in the pacific.
We even rearmed and made a second strike which resulted in a Hanger destroyed, and a few more scalps granted from the hapless foemen. All I could think all night was...'Where else can I see this'...
With all the game and tech available today...we can play or be anything we want. Here, in the Halls of AH...We play WWII Fighter Pilot.
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Wow this thread has been a nice trip down memory lane, lots of great names that I remember very fondly. I'm amazed that I even earned an honorable mention in there somewhere. I think Stampf hit the nail on the head, it's up to each person to decide if they want to add to the game and community or detract from it, and how each person carries themselves says a lot more in what people think and how you're remembered than how many cartoon airplanes you can down.
Dusted the 'ol stick off tonight and spend 30-40 minutes embarrassing myself in the TA, so that I can be ready to spend 3 hours embarrassing myself tomorrow in the scenario, and I look forward to embarrassing myself some more in the MA after that. :)
:cheers:
Good to have you back.
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On the topic of FSO, I spent a few years flying FSO with 9GIAP, a small squad of seven to ten and Dantoo nearly always led a successful mission with limited resources. I admire his ability to lead a bunch of upsidedown miscreants into and out of battle on a regular basis.
Dantoo
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The community itself has always been the strongest part of the game. :salute
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Player1
Yay! I'm note worthy! I finally feel average! :cheers:
Just going to get a little off topic here to post this video because it perfectly suits what's going on in AH2 right now and I thought I'd share it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9vciR0TPpM
I also agree with this completely.
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So to all of you old farts.
Lets pass the hat for some Bengay for the future Bones after his short youth window escapes him. And life slaps the old fart tag on his back that will stay with him for the majority of his 80 some what year life, along with that terminal case of amnesia about the failings of his youth. He will wake up one morning like us, un able to remember what it was he hated about us. While some future young Bones wishes he could pull the trigger and wipe the planet of all the old farts he hates so much. Including the present, soon to become old fart Bones. Time fly's by too fast for the young and angry.
Time is much crueler than anything Bones or skyyr can say to us. No matter what they do, they will end up in a boat named the S.S. Old Fart, stuck with the same cosmic joke we are. The boat ride and joke is much easier and enjoyable to bare, if you share it with a community. In the end, no one wins this boat race, because the finish line is the same for all of us.
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So to all of you old farts.
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On the topic of FSO, I spent a few years flying FSO with 9GIAP, a small squad of seven to ten and Dantoo nearly always led a successful mission with limited resources. I admire his ability to lead a bunch of upsidedown miscreants into and out of battle on a regular basis.
Dantoo
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Dantoo is one of the best tactical flight leaders as well as strategic commanders in the game. Always more than a pleasure working with him and his.
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I admire me...The End....bye
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Poison,
You will become your father sooner than you can blink an eye. Right now as a kid, people cut you slack, and you take advantage of them for it by thinking they are being idiots and losers by indulging you. They are being kind in memory of their youth, because around the corner, they know what is waiting for you.
All of us were the same dumb arse you are acting today. That's why you are not very amusing and getting repetitively boring. Where it will truly matter, is if you cannot keep how you act here, from forging your future self, interfering with paying your bills and providing for those who will depend on you. If this is who you really are, we can only look the other way while you forge this into your future self. All of us have been at this juncture and paid the price, some more, some less.
We will keep a bottle of Bengay ready for you.
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Dantoo is one of the best tactical flight leaders as well as strategic commanders in the game. Always more than a pleasure working with him and his.
As it was always good to see you guys in our group.
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See Rules #2, #4, #6
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We forgive you poison because you are clearly young and in need of a large clue rake. In time you'll figure things out and realize how silly you look to us old farts. If I was half as smart now as I thought I was when I was a kid I'd be dangerous.
In time you'll understand that and probably be a bit embarrassed by your actions lately. No need to respond of course because it will still be the present day you. If you stick around AH as long as us old farts I'm sure you'll have time to show us that you finally get it. :aok
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See Rule #4
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I guess midnight is the one I remember liking the best simply because he made the p51 sight and taught me how to use it and not get the 51 in a flat spin everytime I got in it. He was in the training area at least 2o-3 times a week trying to help new people out and even the ones already in the game if you just ask. Threre was also 2 of the original AK's that would do that but guess my old brain isn't what it used to be and I for the life of me can't remember their handle, but they was a wonder in the 51 and the f4u's, almost like getting a lesson from Shane in the f4u-1 taking on 4-6 spits la's, zekes, u name it and then outflying each one and flying off most of the time. A wonder to watch a devil to try to kill.
SALUTE
ab8aac/dmdchief
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breach of protocol you deek
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Only ones I don't admire are those 80th guys. Bunch of dweebs that lot.
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Poison,
You will become your father sooner than you can blink an eye. Right now as a kid, people cut you slack, and you take advantage of them for it by thinking they are being idiots and losers by indulging you. They are being kind in memory of their youth, because around the corner, they know what is waiting for you.
All of us were the same dumb arse you are acting today. That's why you are not very amusing and getting repetitively boring. Where it will truly matter, is if you cannot keep how you act here, from forging your future self, interfering with paying your bills and providing for those who will depend on you. If this is who you really are, we can only look the other way while you forge this into your future self. All of us have been at this juncture and paid the price, some more, some less.
We will keep a bottle of Bengay ready for you.
I find Poison's disposition to be rather normal; that is, he is treating a game like a game. And as with most things in life, the only opinions that matter are those that are found to be objectively true. The irony here is that neither he, DrBone, myself, etc. hate those who believe differently, rather we simply don't care at all. And that is what everyone else hates.
Lest you forget, you and your mentality are indeed the severe minority in online gaming. The average gamer age is 31, which is closer to Poison's age than it is yours.
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Zack rules. :old:
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I find Poison's disposition to be rather normal; that is, he is treating a game like a game. And as with most things in life, the only opinions that matter are those that are found to be objectively true. The irony here is that neither he, DrBone, myself, etc. hate those who believe differently, rather we simply don't care at all. And that is what everyone else hates.
Lest you forget, you and your mentality is indeed the severe minority in online gaming. The average gamer age is 31, which is closer to Poison's age than it is yours.
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You and your band of knuckleheads are the minority. No one likes you.
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You and your band of knuckleheads are the minority. No one likes you.
If you're talking just about Aces High, yes, we might be the minority. Across combat flight sims and games in general, we're actually quite normal.
And it's ok, I don't play to be liked. That said, my guns and the airfield tower both love you. A LOT. ;)
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That said, my guns and the airfield tower both love you. A LOT. ;)
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See Rule #4
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And it's ok, I don't play to be liked. That said, my guns and the airfield tower both love you. A LOT. ;)
That's okay, when it comes to being liked by the community or being good, we'll just stick to being liked. You can keep your score and K/D in tact and keep acting like you are superior all you want, just remember nobody cares about your score, just your attitude. Yours is a poor one.
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That's okay, when it comes to being liked by the community or being good, we'll just stick to being liked. You can keep your score and K/D in tact and keep acting like you are superior all you want, just remember nobody cares about your score, just your attitude. Yours is a poor one.
:aok
http://bit.ly/1D4vyXk
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If you're talking just about Aces High, yes, we might be the minority. Across combat flight sims and games in general, we're actually quite normal.
And it's ok, I don't play to be liked. That said, my guns and the airfield tower both love you. A LOT. ;)
It's a wonder you can fly at all with a joystick that small :)
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With attitudes like this...probably.
Players I admire...too many to mention.
I admire the ones that have fun when they play the game and don't take things too seriously. I admire players that like to fight and furball, just because that is how
I like to fly. They are not afraid to die and re-up to do it all over again...just fun.
:salute
~Pep
With some of the stuff you've said about me its kind of funny how you try to pull the, its just a game tactic. And I don't even know you but from what you have said on the forums about us, it seems to be a little more than that for a lot of you, actually.
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We forgive you poison because you are clearly young and in need of a large clue rake. In time you'll figure things out and realize how silly you look to us old farts. If I was half as smart now as I thought I was when I was a kid I'd be dangerous.
In time you'll understand that and probably be a bit embarrassed by your actions lately. No need to respond of course because it will still be the present day you. If you stick around AH as long as us old farts I'm sure you'll have time to show us that you finally get it. :aok
With the amount of credit you give him I wish you were my credit union. ;)
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Lest you forget, you and your mentality are indeed the severe minority in online gaming. The average gamer age is 31, which is closer to Poison's age than it is yours.
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Not here, newcomer. :D
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With some of the stuff you've said about me its kind of funny how you try to pull the, its just a game tactic. And I don't even know you but from what you have said on the forums about us, it seems to be a little more than that for a lot of you, actually.
Anything said about you, you've brought on yourself. No one has any sympathy for a teenager acting like a punk and running with the crowd you choose to.
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With some of the stuff you've said about me its kind of funny how you try to pull the, its just a game tactic. And I don't even know you but from what you have said on the forums about us, it seems to be a little more than that for a lot of you, actually.
Hmmm...I don't remember ever saying anything about you...please explain :)
And...we DO take it for what it is...just a game. We do poke fun at the "new damned" on our forum yes and we do it in the public part of our forum so you can see it. I don't remember reading much on there
that was too over the top except for fulcrum and welll... :rolleyes: ... but nothing that states we take the game as more than it is.
We have fun flying together. We joke and carry on badly on vox...but normally none of your names even come up while in game unless one or the other is on 200 all night. :)
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It wasn't. The Damned that you're referring to came to AH from AW. What few people know is that TC went over to Fighter Ace (FA) and started The Damned there as well back in 98-99, but then left after a period of time. The Damned in FA shortly disbanded, then regrouped with new leadership of a player named BlunderingFool. Leadership eventually fell to Smokin, Raptor, and a few other FA pilots, until the close of FA back in 2010. Most of us took a hiatus from sims after that, but a few of us came over to AH in late 2013.
It is too bad FA closed down.
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http://bit.ly/1D4vyXk
:rofl :rofl :rofl That was epic! :aok
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:rofl :rofl :rofl That was epic! :aok
Not really, it was mediocre at best.
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I think score used to mean a lot more then it does now. Back then the top 10 were also pretty much guys you didnt want to cross paths with. Theres still a few left. A few, like Lusche, were always able to balance incredible skill with a high score and still werent afraid to mix it up in furballs. Now? I get a sense of a lot less skill with some of the higher scorers.
Im not naming names, and theres always exceptions, but I get a sense "score" is less and less on the skilled players minds in todays game.
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That's what I thought. I have said absolutely nothing about you, I don't even know you.
If you do have anything to share, you can always do it through pm instead of cluttering up this thread with more... umm...stuff.
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It's a wonder you can fly at all with a joystick that small :)
LOL!
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LOL!
It would be in your best interests not to laugh - you were beaten to a pulp with that joystick.
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And you still don't get it. :huh
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It would be in your best interests not to laugh - you were beaten to a pulp with that joystick.
Actually, my best interests find it hilarious that he's not even flying and knows you better than the guys you fly with, lol. Besides, nothing you do in toon world translates to RL...we both know that for certain...
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It would be in your best interests not to laugh - you were beaten to a pulp with that joystick.
oh it just got real..... in pretend land
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See Rule #4
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Just checked, doesn't seem there's a Damned in the Top 50.......
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I like how everyone doesn't take the game too seriously but is so involved in giving RL life lessons, psychoanalyzing others and using RL names(ew, stage five clinger alert, I'd also be careful if I were you, you don't want anymore trouble with the law (http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/risks-associated-publication))...
I'd like to see one post where one of us directly disrespects a person(not their skill in-game).
Who is taking this game too seriously again? :rofl
The lack of objectivity here is dumbfounding for such a group of mature, and oh-so-wise, group of people.
I respect the fact that someone might admire someone else simply based on how they interact with the players around them without even having to be a good pilot. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I can be objective enough to know that someone is good even if I don't like their persona in game.
A few people around here seemed more focused on trying to destroy the persona(ad hominem's-r-us up in here) instead of trying to beat the pilot, no matter how forum warfare you wage,how much fun you try to poke at someone's age, persona, attitude or whatever other subjective point. Objectivity trumps them all....if you know deep down inside that you can't beat this person at the game (and its been proven by DA matches), then his job is done...really..nothing else you do or say besides getting back into the DA and pulling out a win.
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Just checked, doesn't seem there's a Damned in the Top 50.......
Its a shame even you jumped on the bandwagon. I enjoyed scaring you with flybys and check 6s while it lasted. :cry
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Just checked, doesn't seem there's a Damned in the Top 50.......
Why are you checking..score doesn't matter to you remember? (And its for Fighters, we don't usually fly much of anything else..)
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Why are you checking..score doesn't matter to you remember? (And its for Fighters, we don't usually fly much of anything else..)
No kruel you got it all wrong. When we finish #1 overall, fighters, top 5 etc none of that matters. It only matters on months that we don't play as much.
Welcome to the jungle!
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No kruel you got it all wrong. When we finish #1 overall, fighters, top 5 etc none of that matters. It only matters on months that we don't play as much.
Welcome to the jungle!
Ah I apologize, it's that the rules change so quickly around here..I'll try my best to keep up.
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I like how everyone doesn't take the game too seriously but is so involved in giving RL life lessons, psychoanalyzing others and using RL names(ew, stage five clinger alert, I'd also be careful if I were you, you don't want anymore trouble with the law (http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/risks-associated-publication))...
How did your BBS research last go last night? Was it for your lawsuit against Iko?
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See Rules #2, #4
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Doesn't take much to get Em to leap right into the boat does it :aok
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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Remind me why this thread is still going? :headscratch:
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This is serioisly pathetic, AoM and the Damned need to have a SDL. I'm pretty sure the community is going to agree.
Both sides need to step up, show what they got and fight for bragging rights. This bbs war that has been waging for months is getting old. It doesn't help new players coming in, and aswell as old players considering joining back up.
Fight it out, and move on. Fruit cakes :rolleyes:
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This is serioisly pathetic, AoM and the Damned need to have a SDL. I'm pretty sure the community is going to agree.
Both sides need to step up, show what they got and fight for bragging rights. This bbs war that has been waging for months is getting old. It doesn't help new players coming in, and aswell as old players considering joining back up.
Fight it out, and move on. Fruit cakes :rolleyes:
+ 1million :aok
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This is serioisly pathetic, AoM and the Damned need to have a SDL. I'm pretty sure the community is going to agree.
Both sides need to step up, show what they got and fight for bragging rights. This bbs war that has been waging for months is getting old. It doesn't help new players coming in, and aswell as old players considering joining back up.
Fight it out, and move on. Fruit cakes :rolleyes:
Yessssss
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Mar, nrshida, Muzik, Shatzi, Tongs, Shane, MakeT and many others i cant recall now.
The Few, the old Top Gun crew, the 80th, TwinBoom's squad, the JG11, the old KN, JG5, etc etc.
Even if i had my differences with some of them, i liked playing with/against theese people.
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Agree regarding Soulyss - . . . I've never once heard a single complaint from or about him, not one in 15 years.
That guy? He is so mean spirited and abrasive. Downright evil, I'd say. (Just kidding of course -- he's a great guy.)
I wonder where he went, I don't fly much, but usually would see him about, and haven't for nearly a year or so now. Imagine he'll wander back when the new version comes around, like so many others on these lists I hope to see.
I just flew with him today in P-38J's the "Battle Over the Winter Line" scenario. (He got the most kills in the group.)
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<<<<<<<<<<< see this guy , after reading the title of this thread you should admire me for still playing this game so you guys have a target to shoot. there are alot of us new players who are sticking around who are constant targets for you vets. we get shot down in so many ways its hard to keep track. when i first started i was the best drill bit in the game . yup i know everybody has the same beginning as we have, but if it wasnt for the new players who give it their all and keep coming back for more. trust me and im sure you all can relate its not easy to keep losing in a game and keep playing it anyways. so remember when ya shoot us down be nice , we dont need to hear the noob word or he doesnt know what he is doing. have a little respect for the guys who are trying. at least admire there effort.
:aok
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Remind me why this thread is still going? :headscratch:
Yeah, it metamorphosed into the exact opposite of what I intended.
Some people never disappoint. :headscratch:
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But Joach1m...it's all about....
(http://s12.postimg.org/p6ktgruo9/lookatme.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/p6ktgruo9/)
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But Joach1m...it's all about....
(http://s12.postimg.org/p6ktgruo9/lookatme.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/p6ktgruo9/)
lol +1
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I would mention Zack1234 for reasons that are quit obvious! :old:
Nuff Said.
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This is serioisly pathetic, AoM and the Damned need to have a SDL. I'm pretty sure the community is going to agree.
Both sides need to step up, show what they got and fight for bragging rights. This bbs war that has been waging for months is getting old. It doesn't help new players coming in, and aswell as old players considering joining back up.
Fight it out, and move on. Fruit cakes :rolleyes:
Didn't you hear? The Muppets have been vanquished.
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These kinda threads were much more interesting 12 years ago. :)
Have fun, young'ins
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An old post of mine from another thread here .... long ago. (Opinion or relevancy may vary)
"Just a Game"
Yep .... AirWarrior (and Ace's High, for that matter) was just a game. Hell, why stop there, it was just a program. Just a program that kept many people so hooked that they'd sit and play it for hours on end, weeks on end, months and years on end.
A program that was far more addicting than TV could ever hope to be. Far more addicting than some narcotic drugs. Ok, let's coin the term "electronic narcotic". AirWarrior (and any other online game with a large fanatic community behind it) can be viewed as an "electronic narcotic" (or - just a game/program if we want to live in denial).
But what of the "junkies" involved? Are the players of these games simply the clientele of the market? Checkbooks? Credit cards? Are we just numbers in a demographic database that a machine uses to pump out money to keep itself going? Maybe to some we are (EA made the mistake of focusing on that). I don't think HiTech and Pyro sees us that way. I know Blue Baron didn't.
And THAT, sirs (and ma'ams) is probably the most significant link between AW and AH. That is the legacy passed on.
It's NOT "just a game". It became more than that when the first human simpilot got shot down by another human simpilot online and typed (when he re-upped) "Good kill!"
It grew when these pilot's (of the net) curiousities were aroused and they decided to get to know each other better. To create online communities where, through e-mail, bulletin boards and newsgroups, they could share things about themselves both in and out of the game. I know more about people I've never met in person than I know about my next door neighbor. I know birthdays, anniversaries, births, deaths, new car purchases, fathers and grandfather's military histories, dreams, nightmares and even bad jokes and boredom. I've seen members of the community reach out to others in time of need. Granted, I've also seen vile individuals take advantage of others ... but in the wake of that, even, I've seen the community continue to flourish and bond.
Maybe this is all alien to some here. I know there's many here that long preceeded my ignoble entrance that have experienced the same sort of camraderie and community that I'm trying to describe.
And no .... there's no requirement to know the history and background of a game or community to be able to play (and enjoy) it.
But to those who actually DO feel that ... "it's just a game", that the vehicle that brought us all together so we could all share the best and worst of what we have to offer and maybe come out of it a little wiser, a little better for it, deserves no more consideration than the same program on their pc that keeps the clock ticking or the makes the modem dial up, to those, I feel a sense of pity. For those shallow souls will never know that ... it was more than just a game to many.
(Geez! Like anyone wants to dig to the bottom of this huge thread to read MY "epiphany". Except maybe those who want to test their sig while in their cups.) Wink
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,5875.msg79040.html#msg79040
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Didn't you hear? The Muppets have been vanquished.
Muppets have been dead since 09. :bolt:
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I like how everyone doesn't take the game too seriously but is so involved in giving RL life lessons, psychoanalyzing others and using RL names(ew, stage five clinger alert, I'd also be careful if I were you, you don't want anymore trouble with the law (http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/risks-associated-publication))...
I'd like to see one post where one of us directly disrespects a person(not their skill in-game).
Who is taking this game too seriously again? :rofl
The lack of objectivity here is dumbfounding for such a group of mature, and oh-so-wise, group of people.
I respect the fact that someone might admire someone else simply based on how they interact with the players around them without even having to be a good pilot. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I can be objective enough to know that someone is good even if I don't like their persona in game.
A few people around here seemed more focused on trying to destroy the persona(ad hominem's-r-us up in here) instead of trying to beat the pilot, no matter how forum warfare you wage,how much fun you try to poke at someone's age, persona, attitude or whatever other subjective point. Objectivity trumps them all....if you know deep down inside that you can't beat this person at the game (and its been proven by DA matches), then his job is done...really..nothing else you do or say besides getting back into the DA and pulling out a win.
I agree with this. 99.5% of this is dead-on-balls accurate. I don't find anyone's behavior particularly impressive, including my own. To mention legal issues though...that's laughable. That's just pure humor.
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Muppets have been dead since 09. :bolt:
I'm a huge fan of DrBone. I always have been for some reason...but if this were true Bone, you wouldn't still be humping Muppets legs after all this time bruh!!!! :rofl
I've seen you ignore people you feel are beneath you...and this aint it.
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1 line that is all it takes. :aok
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1 line that is all it takes. :aok
Nooooo. You know better. You've been diggin and diggin for quite a while Bone. lol. Just call it for what it is...BoneHumpin :aok :rofl
I still like ya...lol.
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Top Gun turned out Better.
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Top Gun turned out Better.
Could be...could very-well be.
Sad truth is we'll never know because the Muppets of old are never coming back and you'll never be able to assemble that lineup again at that level of skilz. Very sad indeed.
Edit: but it would have been one for the ages. Actually, in their prime, Grizz, Bighorn, Batfink, Fester, Kappa and Skyrock prolly were not regularly beatable. Certainly not in a 6 v 6. You can sub Moot for any of these.
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Our Time is now and forever will be. :noid
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Get a room, you two.
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Tonight's FSO was a great example of all things outstanding for me in this game. I signed in to the SEA Arena and had 20 mates to fly with. 20 guys who want to stay up late, or get up early in Swoops case, too fly with me. Triton of AoM was Axis CiC and he had given me a tough assignment tonight. 3 1/2 sectors - 85 miles down the Bougainville slot in A6M5's with a single centerline 250 kg bomb. My mission - Destroy the US air base there and all the air wing assigned. Had 10 lads from the 162nd FG in A6m2's for company.
Hairy doesn't come close to what we saw tonight. It was 'The Slot' from Papy Boyington and Ba Ba Black Sheep, only in reverse. My boys were to be the flaming zekes getting painted onto the sides of those big arse Corsair's. No, not this time. I took the flight on an end around and came into the target unmolested. We delivered our ordinance onto the target...didn't hit a damn thing...never said we were bomber pilots, then set about engaging the F4u's, P-39's and P-40's that appeared on the scene with bad intent on their mind. Out gunned, out classed and fighting from an altitude disadvantage after our attack, I encouraged to the boys to...own the fight...to fight it on their terms and simply take the initiative and never give it back. And so it was...we destroyed the entire CAP, 18 souls in all, for the loss of 10 men KIA. I'll take that every time in an attack mission in the pacific.
We even rearmed and made a second strike which resulted in a Hanger destroyed, and a few more scalps granted from the hapless foemen. All I could think all night was...'Where else can I see this'...
With all the game and tech available today...we can play or be anything we want. Here, in the Halls of AH...We play WWII Fighter Pilot.
Heya Stampf,
your JG11 AAR for Jan FSO frame 3 verses our 412th FNVG Jan. 23rd FSO frame 3 AAR seem to be a tad bit off..... I think I need to go take another look at the logs..... lol ( joking )
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The Damned ( from AW/WB/Targetware - Target Rabual/ FA pre year 2000 ) which is my group and also whel's has a wing under his tag ( not sure who all is still flying in his wing ) was a great big ol' fun and enjoyable group of people, who for the most part simply played for fun and to help in any way we could to help others in the game learn the game, enjoy the game, design scenarios, design terrains, make plane skins, etc etc ad infinium......
Drano & Joker ( Joker1 ) were the CO's for the Damned SE / Damned FSO squad which ran up to around 2008/2009,
As Kruel ( and skyyr I think ) have mentioned, they decided to break away from and form their own damned squad here in AH, nothing else needs to be said about it......... I hardly fly in the MA and when I do I fly for the knights as has always been the case since the Damned moved and settled there back in 2001, after we tried a month or so in both Bish land and Rook land.....
I agree with Kingpin/rynorush that this topic should get back on topic, and stick on topic for those that want to post in it regarding the "Topic Title"----> "Players to admire"
it is kind of saddening that so many of these threads get side stepped & high jacked, ending up reverting to something about the Damned...... there is no reason for this, if people would just post in regards to what the topic is about and nothing more
nothing ever remains the same, if it did, then things would become stagnant and the game would whither away..... even us "old farts" ( liked your post bustr :aok :old: ) know that that it is possible to look back and remember the early old glory days, but we also know that things change just like the time, and we all must adapt to change or die out like the old games we once played have died out!
Cheers
TC
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:salute TC
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These kinda threads were much more interesting 12 years ago. :)
Have fun, young'ins
So very true... I look back with great fondness to those fun days....
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Get a room, you two.
Or what?
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Heya Stampf,
your JG11 AAR for Jan FSO frame 3 verses our 412th FNVG Jan. 23rd FSO frame 3 AAR seem to be a tad bit off..... I think I need to go take another look at the logs..... lol ( joking )
Youthful enthusiasm ? Oh wait, can't be that. ;) Alzheimer's...or maybe just the Bourbon.
<S> TC. The 412th more and more formidable every week.
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Or what?
Or embarrass yourselves with gayness in this thread.
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Or embarrass yourselves with gayness in this thread.
What are you even doing here exactly?
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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:old: I am not gay.... My boyfriend is... Let it be known! :old:
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Lol Changeup
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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I know this thread has gone way off where it was meant to be but I'll go back to the original idea. I admire the players that are not only talented in their own ways but use it to better the community.
Widewing: This man has taught me much, he was kinda like an Obe Wan to me, but never had an ego despite his great knowledge base and talent.
Stampf: This man is a born leader, I have no doubt if he actually was in WW2, and he had a squad, they wouldn't be just as successful as the JG11 we have in game today. His leadership ability makes him a man to admire.
Morfiend: I don't think there is a nicer guy in game, that will go out of his way to help.
Branch37: He's my CO, and half the age of just about everybody in VF-17, but leads as a man twice his age. Plus his dry sense of humor cracks me up.
Delirium: Great guy and a great stick (except when he makes me talk about birds and bees to the new guys in the TA). One of the few guys I fear when on the other side.
This would be my short list, there's a much larger list of players I respect and call my friends as well, and I'm sure you know who you are. But the five above stand out to me.
:salute
BigRat
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Widewing
Stampf
Morfiend
Branch37
Delirium
Not a bad short list, squaddie.
Mine probably fits in the 'where are they now' thread.
Dok GonZo
Krusher
Ratbo
GB
Texter
Goner
NancyD
Aub
Nuttz
(They are all actually in the old thread I referenced.)
I also like all my squaddies. (Shouldn't everyone like their squaddies?)
There's a lot of current players that are admirable. Most have been in this thread, already.
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I know this thread has gone way off where it was meant to be but I'll go back to the original idea. I admire the players that are not only talented in their own ways but use it to better the community.
Widewing: This man has taught me much, he was kinda like an Obe Wan to me, but never had an ego despite his great knowledge base and talent.
Stampf: This man is a born leader, I have no doubt if he actually was in WW2, and he had a squad, they wouldn't be just as successful as the JG11 we have in game today. His leadership ability makes him a man to admire.
Morfiend: I don't think there is a nicer guy in game, that will go out of his way to help.
Branch37: He's my CO, and half the age of just about everybody in VF-17, but leads as a man twice his age. Plus his dry sense of humor cracks me up.
Delirium: Great guy and a great stick (except when he makes me talk about birds and bees to the new guys in the TA). One of the few guys I fear when on the other side.
This would be my short list, there's a much larger list of players I respect and call my friends as well, and I'm sure you know who you are. But the five above stand out to me.
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BigRat
Thank you BigRat. Those are kind words. Really.
I don't belong in the same list as those fella's. Honestly I just try to not let my men down. There really is little more to it than that. How can I be...less than...when I am so lucky to have such mates to play the game with.
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The ones I personally have admired due to what they bring to the game...
USRanger.. not only does he make cool sounds that I am sure you all use, but making the maps for AVA and scenarios. Plus he is actually funny as hell when he gets drinking.
Jeagear1.. When we were in need of an arena for a memorial flight not only did he set up the arena the way I had asked, he actually called me to make sure everything was correct.
ROC .. he gives up time to set-up and do the scenarios.
HB555 ... same as ROC but with the AHXARL
Any and all POTW due to the camaraderie we share and we get on to have "FUN" and destress from the real world.
Too many to count and not enough time but, the ones I do respect I don't care which side they fly on, I will salute them if i get shot down by them.
This thread has become an ankle humping, axe grinding fest and if we are to bring in new clientelle this is not the way to show how people act in game.
Show some class and remember, guests do show up and read the threads.
LawnDart
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stuff you've said about me
what you have said about us
lolz... get it straight yungin... was it to you personally, or your squad... or to your squad before you joined?
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See Rule #4
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See Rules #2, #4
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I can see where this is going come Monday morning...
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See Rules #2, #4
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I know this thread has gone way off where it was meant to be but I'll go back to the original idea. I admire the players that are not only talented in their own ways but use it to better the community.
Widewing: This man has taught me much, he was kinda like an Obe Wan to me, but never had an ego despite his great knowledge base and talent.
Stampf: This man is a born leader, I have no doubt if he actually was in WW2, and he had a squad, they wouldn't be just as successful as the JG11 we have in game today. His leadership ability makes him a man to admire.
Morfiend: I don't think there is a nicer guy in game, that will go out of his way to help.
Branch37: He's my CO, and half the age of just about everybody in VF-17, but leads as a man twice his age. Plus his dry sense of humor cracks me up.
Delirium: Great guy and a great stick (except when he makes me talk about birds and bees to the new guys in the TA). One of the few guys I fear when on the other side.
I am pretty shocked I was included in that list of really good people. I definitely don't deserve it!
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I can see where this is going come Monday morning...
Good thing you clocked in for your shift, eh D.T. :aok?
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See Rules #2, #4
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Thank you BigRat. Those are kind words. Really.
I don't belong in the same list as those fella's. Honestly I just try to not let my men down. There really is little more to it than that. How can I be...less than...when I am so lucky to have such mates to play the game with.
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It's that kind of attitude that gets you on the list :aok
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BigRat
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I am pretty shocked I was included in that list of really good people. I definitely don't deserve it!
Yea you do Del, because you are humble to boot. Despite being scary good in a 38
:salute
BigRat
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I'm actually gonna miss Poison, I enjoyed flying with and against him.
R.I.P Poison :pray :salute
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r561/folanjohnp1/pic-dump-383-12_zpseaf835c3.jpg)
He'll always be Sloppy in my heart <3 <3 <3
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I'm actually gonna miss Poison, I enjoyed flying with and against him.
R.I.P Poison :pray :salute
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r561/folanjohnp1/pic-dump-383-12_zpseaf835c3.jpg)
He'll always be Sloppy in my heart <3 <3 <3
What? :headscratch:
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What? :headscratch:
He meant it.
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I'm actually gonna miss Poison, I enjoyed flying with and against him.
R.I.P Poison :pray :salute
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r561/folanjohnp1/pic-dump-383-12_zpseaf835c3.jpg)
He'll always be Sloppy in my heart <3 <3 <3
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lol what? is that a joke?
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Wow. PNG'd. :eek:
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Good :D
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Wow. PNG'd. :eek:
Not surprising after what he did in the MA after he was banned on the forums.
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Not surprising after what he did in the MA after he was banned on the forums.
:huh Who's Poision? What he'd do? Curious, if you want to know why I asked.
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Thanks Lawndart, although I think you might have missed the point of this post. I am in awe of so many players on this list, for me to show up is like saying "And the guy, you know, the one who cleans the toilets, ya it's good to have him here!" :D
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Maybe I need to sign up, shake the rust off, and slap you baby seals around like a trailer trash hôr... in my k4! :devil (or maybe I'll get pnged for bypassing the filter... :rofl)
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Maybe I need to sign up, shake the rust off, and slap you baby seals around like a trailer trash hôr... in my k4! :devil (or maybe I'll get pnged for bypassing the filter... :rofl)
Pffft you ain't got no game Ardy.... Skyyr will tell ya so lol nice to see you on the forums again :cheers:
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Not surprising after what he did in the MA after he was banned on the forums.
Kids will be kids. :joystick:
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Kids will be kids. :joystick:
Thing is he was coaxed into it.... that is the sad part
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During my time Levi was the best MA player. Shawk was my great friend and one of the highest respective players for me sense early AW days.
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Skyyr
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Isn't the goal of historical ACM to outfly and kill the other guy while surviving? I would think all flight styles primary goal would be not to die, relatively speaking.
I know this is old, but....
Mission profile seriously impacts this. You may want to have it that way, yet find yourself in a reduced squadron of nine Hurricane Mk Is climbing into sixty Bf109E-4s because that is what you have to do. You may find yourself lifting a P-40C to engage hundreds of Japanese planes, including many A6M2s which wholly outclass you. Perhaps the "thrill" of engaging superior numbers of Fw190A-4s, Bf109F-4s and Bf109G-2s in the 'Varnished Guaranteed Coffin' LaGG-3 could be yours. You may find yourself heading for a stream of B-17Gs, escorted by Merlin P-51s, in a war weary Bf109G-6 armed with a single 20mm cannon without the option of saying no. You may find yourself struggling to climb to the altitude of a stream of B-29s in a J2M3a that is gasping for breath in order to make a single attack run. Reality sucks compared to games.
In AH there is almost no pressure to do anything but timidly fight only when the advantage is largely yours. In reality that gets you grounded or shot, depending how which nation you happen to be flying for.
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I know this is old, but....
Mission profile seriously impacts this. You may want to have it that way, yet find yourself in a reduced squadron of nine Hurricane Mk Is climbing into sixty Bf109E-4s because that is what you have to do. You may find yourself lifting a P-40C to engage hundreds of Japanese planes, including many A6M2s which wholly outclass you. Perhaps the "thrill" of engaging superior numbers of Fw190A-4s, Bf109F-4s and Bf109G-2s in the 'Varnished Guaranteed Coffin' LaGG-3 could be yours. You may find yourself heading for a stream of B-17Gs, escorted by Merlin P-51s, in a war weary Bf109G-6 armed with a single 20mm cannon without the option of saying no. You may find yourself struggling to climb to the altitude of a stream of B-29s in a J2M3a that is gasping for breath in order to make a single attack run. Reality sucks compared to games.
In AH there is almost no pressure to do anything buyt timidly fight only when the advantage is largely yours. In reality that gets you grounded or shot, depending how which nation you happen to be flying for.
Good post
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wow, that was well done... :salute
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I know this is old, but....
Mission profile seriously impacts this. You may want to have it that way, yet find yourself in a reduced squadron of nine Hurricane Mk Is climbing into sixty Bf109E-4s because that is what you have to do. You may find yourself lifting a P-40C to engage hundreds of Japanese planes, including many A6M2s which wholly outclass you. Perhaps the "thrill" of engaging superior numbers of Fw190A-4s, Bf109F-4s and Bf109G-2s in the 'Varnished Guaranteed Coffin' LaGG-3 could be yours. You may find yourself heading for a stream of B-17Gs, escorted by Merlin P-51s, in a war weary Bf109G-6 armed with a single 20mm cannon without the option of saying no. You may find yourself struggling to climb to the altitude of a stream of B-29s in a J2M3a that is gasping for breath in order to make a single attack run. Reality sucks compared to games.
In AH there is almost no pressure to do anything but timidly fight only when the advantage is largely yours. In reality that gets you grounded or shot, depending how which nation you happen to be flying for.
Perfectly stated
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I know this is old, but....
Mission profile seriously impacts this. You may want to have it that way, yet find yourself in a reduced squadron of nine Hurricane Mk Is climbing into sixty Bf109E-4s because that is what you have to do. You may find yourself lifting a P-40C to engage hundreds of Japanese planes, including many A6M2s which wholly outclass you. Perhaps the "thrill" of engaging superior numbers of Fw190A-4s, Bf109F-4s and Bf109G-2s in the 'Varnished Guaranteed Coffin' LaGG-3 could be yours. You may find yourself heading for a stream of B-17Gs, escorted by Merlin P-51s, in a war weary Bf109G-6 armed with a single 20mm cannon without the option of saying no. You may find yourself struggling to climb to the altitude of a stream of B-29s in a J2M3a that is gasping for breath in order to make a single attack run. Reality sucks compared to games.
In AH there is almost no pressure to do anything but timidly fight only when the advantage is largely yours. In reality that gets you grounded or shot, depending how which nation you happen to be flying for.
That doesn't change the statement of "the goal of historical ACM to outfly and kill the other guy while surviving," it simply requires it to be done under sometimes less-than-ideal circumstances. Therefore, it really doesn't change the way one should fly (as previously stated), it simply changes the circumstances that they might go into when they fly. In light of that, it actually makes flying more carefully (energy fighting vs turnfighting) more important, not less.
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That doesn't change the statement of "the goal of historical ACM to outfly and kill the other guy while surviving," it simply requires it to be done under sometimes less-than-ideal circumstances. Therefore, it really doesn't change the way one should fly (as previously stated), it simply changes the circumstances that they might go into when they fly. In light of that, it actually makes flying more carefully (energy fighting vs turnfighting) more important, not less.
You still don't get it Skyyr. A good pilot will use both energy fighting and angles fighting in the same fight. A great pilot will combine the two so flawlessly that the transitions are hard to spot. Energy fighting exclusively for the purpose of winning above all else is not particularly clever and in this community it is not particularly respected.
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You still don't get it Skyyr. A good pilot will use both energy fighting and angles fighting in the same fight. A great pilot will combine the two so flawlessly that the transitions are hard to spot. Energy fighting exclusively for the purpose of winning above all else is not particularly clever and in this community it is not particularly respected.
It's a good thing WWII pilots didn't fly for respect, huh? No, they flew exclusively to win.
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It's a good thing we're not WWII pilots. :)
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It's a good thing WWII pilots didn't fly for respect, huh? No, they flew exclusively to win.
So which aspect are you emulating? Ah the game or the WWII pilot. Pick one
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So which aspect are you emulating? Ah the game or the WWII pilot. Pick one
False dilemma; they're not mutually exclusive.
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There is nothing wrong with the way Skyyr plays. A lot of players fly the same way.
If you like to play differently that's fine too.
Everybody gets to pick their style of play and who they admire for it.
It's only right or wrong according to your personal bias.
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It's a good thing WWII pilots didn't fly for respect, huh? No, they flew exclusively to win.
I think you are wrong. Honour and respect played a large part in the bravery of pilots from both great wars.
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There is nothing wrong with the way Skyyr plays. A lot of players fly the same way.
If you like to play differently that's fine too.
Everybody gets to pick their style of play and who they admire for it.
It's only right or wrong according to your personal bias.
Maybe so, but doesn't change the fact he is a self-serving person that needs his ego stroked
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I think you are wrong. Honour and respect played a large part in the bravery of pilots from both great wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPYdEJI3ir4&t=402
Directly from the documentary (at 4:02):
"These Polish here, they loathed the Germans. All we [British] were interested in was to destroy aeroplanes; whereas the Poles, they wanted to kill anybody that was in these aeroplanes."
Respect and honor have nothing to do with flying style. The pilots above, as many, many other pilots, didn't respect the enemy one bit nor did they care about "being fair." They were there to do one thing: kill the enemy.
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It's a good thing WWII pilots didn't fly for respect, huh? No, they flew exclusively to win.
And if you believe that. You are more clueless than I thought. They flew because it was thier job. A P-39 pilot in New Guniea didn't get to choose his ride or when he engaged. That was out of his hands.
A ground attack pilot in a Typhoon or a Jug over France and Germany didn't get to choose the fight. They did thier job despite the losses to ground fire or being bounced by higher enemy aircraft.
A 109 pilot going up with 20 hours of flight time in 1944 to face 1000 bombers with a thousand escorts was the same. Only a fool thinks they went up thinking of thier score or winning. They had a job to do knowing that the odds were they would die.
There is no comparison in the game. Outside of dying from a heart attack from sitting to long at the computer, there is no risk. Fly how you choose but save me the garbage about flying only to win. That's the cartoon pilots excuse for not testing himself in a game where there is no real risk.
The saddest part is you end up missing out on what.can be the most fun in the game.
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And if you believe that. You are more clueless than I thought. They flew because it was thier job. A P-39 pilot in New Guniea didn't get to choose his ride or when he engaged. That was out of his hands.
A ground attack pilot in a Typhoon or a Jug over France and Germany didn't get to choose the fight. They did thier job despite the losses to ground fire or being bounced by higher enemy aircraft.
A 109 pilot going up with 20 hours of flight time in 1944 to face 1000 bombers with a thousand escorts was the same. Only a fool thinks they went up thinking of thier score or winning. They had a job to do knowing that the odds were they would die.
And what do you think "winning" is? It's doing your job and succeeding. That means you kill the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible.
If you're in a 109 fighting 80+ US fighters, are you going to try some AH-based "honorable" tactic and turn and loop and avoid shots forward of the 3/9 line? No, you're going to shoot down every fighter that crosses your windscreen, whether it's in the face or not; you're going to rope, stay vertical, and do whatever you can to kill as many as you can and then get home alive... because what matters is beating the other guy and nothing else.
The guys here talking of "honor" in combat have no conception of actual warfare.
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Skyyr has made it clear that the world is his enemy.
There is only one thing left to say...
(http://makeameme.org/media/created/i-wish-you-pz8px5.jpg)
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Skyyr has made it clear that everything red in the game is his enemy.
There is only one thing left to say...
(http://makeameme.org/media/created/i-wish-you-pz8px5.jpg)
Slight correction.
This is a WWII combat sim, after all. How strange that someone would treat the enemy as... the enemy, eh?
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And what do you think "winning" is? It's doing your job and succeeding. That means you kill the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible.
If you're in a 109 fighting 80+ US fighters, are you going to try some AH-based "honorable" tactic and turn and loop and avoid shots forward of the 3/9 line? No, you're going to shoot down every fighter that crosses your windscreen, whether it's in the face or not; you're going to rope, stay vertical, and do whatever you can to kill as many as you can and then get home alive... because what matters is beating the other guy and nothing else.
The guys here talking of "honor" in combat have no conception of actual warfare.
Read what you wrote. Your job is to stop the bombers yet there you are hanging high staying safe trying to pick off fighters while the bombers make your home a smoking hole in the ground. You flew safe and your family died. Where are you going to hang your Knights Cross and who you going to show it to with no family and no mantle to hang it on?
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Read what you wrote. Your job is to stop the bombers yet there you are hanging high staying safe trying to pick off fighters while the bombers make your home a smoking hole in the ground. You flew safe and your family died. Where are you going to hang your Knights Cross and who you going to show it to with no family and no mantle to hang it on?
Please point out once where I referenced "picking off fighters" or "hanging high." In my example, I clearly stated the scenario of engaging superior fighter numbers. "Picking" is an AH term, and is something that wouldn't even be questioned in any real air combat scenario; "hanging high" has nothing to do with roping.
If your job is to kill the bombers, you hit the bombers as fast as possible (historically using slashing energy tactics) and then rtb. There's no difference.
I'm not even sure that you're aware of what we're discussing. We're talking about tactics, not mission profiles. You use the best tactic for the mission that's available to you. That is what ACM is about.
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Play however you want - there's nothing wrong with that. However, questioning the use of historical tactics is backwards. The tactics themselves have stood the test of time and are logically the correct response in such situations. If you want to deviate from that, by all means, you have that right. However, questioning players who choose to not deviate isn't a flaw in their style of play, it's a deviation of your own playstyle. If you cannot objectively and tangibly quantify your reasons for doing so, and show them as better, then you cannot fault someone else for not adopting them. And just so that we're clear: "fun," "honor," "respect," and other concepts are neither objective or tangible - they're subjective intangibles.
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Read what you wrote. Your job is to stop the bombers yet there you are hanging high staying safe trying to pick off fighters while the bombers make your home a smoking hole in the ground. You flew safe and your family died. Where are you going to hang your Knights Cross and who you going to show it to with no family and no mantle to hang it on?
you are engaging in an exercise of futility.....might as well go outside pick up a rock and discuss quantum physics with it, you will have a more responsive and engaging discussion :aok
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you are engaging in an exercise of futility.....might as well go outside pick up a rock and discuss quantum physics with it, you will have a more responsive and engaging discussion :aok
Potentially the understatement of the century :)
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:lol ink .... Funny stuff
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Maybe so, but doesn't change the fact he is a self-serving person that needs his ego stroked
The notion that his approach to game play is wrong is simply false. Your point is about his approach to the community.
That would be a different conversation and it wouldn't be about his flying.
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Scott Sterling has been my favorite forever. he wont run, he wont quit and he'll take anything you throw at him without whining. meet him once and survive and you will call him Scott sterling, meet him twice and survive and you will call him Mr Scott sterling.
semp
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that's why I love the ignore feature
except when people quote those that have earned that honor, then unfortunately I get to see there drivel.
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The guys here talking of "honor" in combat have no conception of actual warfare.
:rofl
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I hate all of you, you making me defend skyyr.
I dont come here to get honor or skill. Honor comes from what you do in real life, not what you accomplish in a cartoon game. I come here to have fun and If it makes me laugh and have a good time with my friends then it's really worth my 15 bucks.
I lost 3 262's in a row the other day. one I dove into a set of b17's just to compress into the ground as I am pretty sure the b17 pilot was laughing his button off. heck, dont tell my squadies, I told them the b17's gunners got me :D.
the last 262 sorty I was bored so I started vulching the field with all the ack fully up. ended up with 3 kills. no skill whatsoever in my part but nonetheless it made my afternoon funny as hell.
having said that, I think scott sterling is by far the best player. and I'll DA anybody that thinks otherwise :rock :rock :rock.
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The notion that his approach to game play is wrong is simply false. Your point is about his approach to the community.
That would be a different conversation and it wouldn't be about his flying.
Well, I am talking about his flying. It is uninspired, lacks any form of creativity and is far below the standard of anyone who has ever been recognised in this game as being any good. In general his 'flying style', if that is not an insult to the word 'style', can only provide some small amount of fun for himself and never anyone else. That in itself is grounds for me to say it is 'wrong' for this game. We play together and we provide each other's fun as much as we provide our own fun.
To not contribute to the fun of the community as a whole is detrimental to the game and will facilitate it's decline into the realms of the xbox generation of gamers, always needing a new game to be brought out every few months because the gameplay becomes so stale due to excessive self serving players.
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A man is shown hell by an angel. A giant table is set with a magnificent feast and all are seated around it. However the only way to eat is with twelve foot chopsticks. The diners are struggling in the vain attempt to feed themselves with the giant chopsticks but to no avail. No one in hell gets to eat and all are miserable.
Then the angel takes him to heaven and the man sees exactly the same layout. A great feast that must be eaten with twelve foot chopsticks. The man is confused. He asks the angel why heaven and hell are the same. The angel says 'just watch'. At that moment the occupants of heaven enter and sit down. The man watches as the diners proceed to feed anyone who is sitting twelve feet away from them. All are fed and all are happy.
'I understand the nature of heaven and hell' says the man
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And what do you think "winning" is? It's doing your job and succeeding. That means you kill the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible.
If you're in a 109 fighting 80+ US fighters, are you going to try some AH-based "honorable" tactic and turn and loop and avoid shots forward of the 3/9 line? No, you're going to shoot down every fighter that crosses your windscreen, whether it's in the face or not; you're going to rope, stay vertical, and do whatever you can to kill as many as you can and then get home alive... because what matters is beating the other guy and nothing else.
The guys here talking of "honor" in combat have no conception of actual warfare.
I've sat back for a few months and watch you tap dance in every post you make, as well as this Community. What are you, 19 with a chip on your shoulder? You paint yourself into a corner constantly. Just when others feel that you might have "gotten it" in a particular thread/post, you run across the wet paint to another corner and distract everyone from the footprints. Rinse, repeat and pretend the previous running across the wet paint never happened. But it did.
You use a BoB documentary to suit your stance based in lunacy to begin and mock those who had a whole hell of a lot at stake in WWII? Also champ, the Poles/Germans are the only exception in most cases of hatred, but not for the reasons you think they are. You are not a pilot, you are not in a war and this game does neither to solidify your delusional fantasy. But what you lack in knowledge, you make up for in failing to cash checks, that your mouth cannot write. You pedestal is a gathering spot for pigeons and you should clean it off again. The moment it appears to be clean, clean it again.
If you consider a pixelated cockpit to be your way of eliminating the enemy, I suggest seeking professional counsel by way of a psychiatrist. Because you're doing it wrong.
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I just watched Good Will Hunting (again) tonight. Deja Vu (minus the genius math wizard brain thing).
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You use a BoB documentary to suit your stance based in lunacy to begin and mock those who had a whole hell of a lot at stake in WWII? Also champ, the Poles/Germans are the only exception in most cases of hatred, but not for the reasons you think they are.
See here, from 3:10 - 3:34:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyqltS4Uvo&t=190
"I could see the fires that the Luftwaffe had started on this, their first raid on London. I had not realized that I could feel so deeply; but, at that moment, I would have butchered any German I could lay my hands on. I was beginning to understand the attitude of the Poles."
-- 303 Canadian Captain, John Kent
So now Canadians are an exception too? The truth is that almost everyone here preaching about "honor" in a warzone has never been to war or served in a military. There is nothing glorious about it, and there is not some unspoken code of honor between you and your enemy. You are fighting to get back alive and you will do anything to make that happen.
Exactly as shown in the documentary, the pilots who had not experienced personal loss only cared to shoot down the enemy aircraft. Once London was bombed and the pilots experienced the same loss of life and property that the Poles had, it became personal. They hated their enemy, and they wanted them dead. Ask anyone who's been to combat and experienced loss of life, and the vast majority will show the same attitude. Chivalrous acts of 1v1 combat and honor are for those who think they know about war and for the dead. We are discussing war, not jousting.
You are not a pilot
I most certainly am.
you are not in a war
No, but this is a combat simulator. The same general rules and tactics apply.
But what you lack in knowledge, you make up for in failing to cash checks, that your mouth cannot write.
Thus far, you've claimed I am not a pilot (I am), that my example only applied to the Poles (a Canadian confirmed the exact same hatred for the Germans, and I can find several other examples). That would make you 0 for 2. Further, promoting the use of historical tactics is not in any way misguiding or uneducated. They work because they're the most effective.
If you consider a pixelated cockpit to be your way of eliminating the enemy, I suggest seeking professional counsel by way of a psychiatrist. Because you're doing it wrong.
I consider a pixelated cockpit to be the way to defeat a pixelated enemy in a pixelated air combat simulator. Logically, this makes perfect sense. Only when you try to animate concepts of "honor" and "respect" and illogically attach them to actions such as where you shoot a player or how you engage them does it become, well, illogical.
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"Once", "once", "once". Keep tap dancing and good luck in life. You need it a lot more than others.
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"So now Canadians are an exception too? The truth is that almost everyone here preaching about "honor" in a warzone has never been to war or served in a military. There is nothing glorious about it, and there is not some unspoken code of honor. You are fighting to get back alive and you will do anything to make that happen. Chivalrous acts of 1v1 combat and honor are for the dead. We were discussing war, not jousting."
Question, What was your job in the war zone? MOS, where did you deploy and such generally interested...your using it as an argument, but for all we know you were a FOBbit.
Honestly I don't need to know because your wrong...we left the dead Taliban on the field instead of collecting them like we are supposed to, to respect their religion....not once did we have a sit down with Taliban an establish this. On the other side, we couldn't leave one of our dead there....they would mangle their body on Al Jazeera....
Do you want us to mangle their bodies on Fox news like they do to us? Or should we keep going with the "unspoken code of honor"?
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"So now Canadians are an exception too? The truth is that almost everyone here preaching about "honor" in a warzone has never been to war or served in a military. There is nothing glorious about it, and there is not some unspoken code of honor. You are fighting to get back alive and you will do anything to make that happen. Chivalrous acts of 1v1 combat and honor are for the dead. We were discussing war, not jousting."
Question, What was your job in the war zone? MOS, where did you deploy and such generally interested...your using it as an argument, but for all we know you were a FOBbit.
Honestly I don't need to know because your wrong...we left the dead Taliban on the field instead of collecting them like we are supposed to, to respect their religion....not once did we have a sit down with Taliban an establish this. On the other side, we couldn't leave one of our dead there....they would mangle their body on Al Jazeera....
Do you want us to mangle their bodies on Fox news like they do to us? Or should we keep going with the "unspoken code of honor"?
He's broken. It isn't worth the time to try and point it out. He shifts gears faster than a south bound trucker. He never saw combat and if he did, he's just as disrespectful.
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"So now Canadians are an exception too? The truth is that almost everyone here preaching about "honor" in a warzone has never been to war or served in a military. There is nothing glorious about it, and there is not some unspoken code of honor. You are fighting to get back alive and you will do anything to make that happen. Chivalrous acts of 1v1 combat and honor are for the dead. We were discussing war, not jousting."
Question, What was your job in the war zone? MOS, where did you deploy and such generally interested...your using it as an argument, but for all we know you were a FOBbit.
Honestly I don't need to know because your wrong...we left the dead Taliban on the field instead of collecting them like we are supposed to, to respect their religion....not once did we have a sit down with Taliban an establish this. On the other side, we couldn't leave one of our dead there....they would mangle their body on Al Jazeera....
Do you want us to mangle their bodies on Fox news like they do to us? Or should we keep going with the "unspoken code of honor"?
You're talking about honor after the fact. Aces High considers "honor" as not shooting someone in the front-quarter, or jumping into an established 1v1 in the Main Arena. Please tell me where that applies to real-world combat. That concept of "honor" does not exist. There's no "ok, I won't shoot you at night because you guys think it's wrong" or "well you beat my friend fair and square 1 on 1 so I'll let you kill him" - no, it's war. You kill the other guy and keep your guys alive. How you treat your enemies' bodies is a luxury, and if maiming their remains was the only way you could get home alive, you know as well as I do that would happen.
Replied via PM regarding the other stuff.
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there were several pilots I admired and were fun to watch kill bad guys. N7 was probably the best out of all of them. watched him kill 9 guys once, refuel and kill 6 more, all in one sorty.
VWE was another one with evil skills.... he as relentless and one of the best killers id ever seen. Tbarone and storch were both up there, although if storch couldn't kill them, he'd mock them to death.
was great fun watching those guys and something to be beheld!
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RGR, if I'm in a firefight with someone I'm not going to care if my buddy comes in and flaks the SOB.
But I still respect any man who is going to put his life on the line for his belief, he may be dead wrong and I'm going to put 2 to the chest but...
I respect my enemy, even if he doesn't respect me.
All Warriors meet in Valhalla some day right?
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What I learned from this game: The good people at HTC give me a shiny new airplane every time I bloody up my old one. That being said, I fly the way I want to. In a game where the only penalty for dying is to have to take off again, why not fly for honor? Do not throw the "you do not know what real war is like" thing in my face.
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What are you, 19 with a chip on your shoulder?
IIRC, Skyrr is about age 25.
Willing to be corrected.
- oldman
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There is nothing wrong with the way Skyyr plays. A lot of players fly the same way.
If you like to play differently that's fine too.
Everybody gets to pick their style of play and who they admire for it.
It's only right or wrong according to your personal bias.
finally FLS has it right., as a newbie myself it took a while to learn that no matter how much people complain it is still YOUR responsibility to get out of the other guys gun sight. i once asked about the HO and it started a huge debate with nothing really answered. when i went to the TA i was told the general rule is to get on a players 6 using the best skill you had.well as i found out i dont have alot of skill and it takes time to develop that skill . so now i have 8 months under my belt still not alot of skill but better then before and in my opinion rule #1 for me is stay out of the other planes gun sight , if they come right at me and i have them in my sight sorry but im going to fire. if it looks like they dont want to fire then i will avoid them .its a split second choice i have to make. we cant wait to see if they are going to HO or not cause most of the time they do. Skyrr philosophy is simple kill everything ,and thats his right to choose his style. its our choice to stay out of his gun sight, or anybody elses . to me so far the biggest issue is this forum or channel 200 where the sore losers cry and the chest beaters put more bruises on themselves . as for me i will continue to be your favorite target but i get a shinny new plane because it is just a game . and i will joke on 200 after ya kill me because thats my style , now who wants a MAGIC KILL!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
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IIRC, Skyrr is about age 25.
Willing to be corrected.
- oldman
He's also supposedly a commercially licensed pilot. I've never been afraid to fly commercially before now.
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finally FLS has it right., as a newbie myself it took a while to learn that no matter how much people complain it is still YOUR responsibility to get out of the other guys gun sight. i once asked about the HO and it started a huge debate with nothing really answered. when i went to the TA i was told the general rule is to get on a players 6 using the best skill you had.well as i found out i dont have alot of skill and it takes time to develop that skill . so now i have 8 months under my belt still not alot of skill but better then before and in my opinion rule #1 for me is stay out of the other planes gun sight , if they come right at me and i have them in my sight sorry but im going to fire. if it looks like they dont want to fire then i will avoid them .its a split second choice i have to make. we cant wait to see if they are going to HO or not cause most of the time they do. Skyrr philosophy is simple kill everything ,and thats his right to choose his style. its our choice to stay out of his gun sight, or anybody elses . to me so far the biggest issue is this forum or channel 200 where the sore losers cry and the chest beaters put more bruises on themselves . as for me i will continue to be your favorite target but i get a shinny new plane because it is just a game . and i will joke on 200 after ya kill me because thats my style , now who wants a MAGIC KILL!!
For some of us the thread deviation over whether Skyrr (and his squadies) deserves respect or even admiration in this thread was never about how he chooses to fly but more about how he is a boor on the forum about it. Also, there's the decision to stubbornly form a 'bizarro Damned' squad when there's already an established Damned that has been here for years and has earned the community's respect. Rather poor form.
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In almost every list, pride (Latin, superbia), or hubris (Greek), is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and the source of the others. It is identified as believing that one is essentially better than others, failing to acknowledge the accomplishments of others, and excessive admiration of the personal self (especially holding self out of proper position toward God). Dante's definition was "love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbour". In Jacob Bidermann's medieval miracle play, Cenodoxus, pride is the deadliest of all the sins and leads directly to the damnation of the titulary famed Parisian doctor. In perhaps the best-known example, the story of Lucifer, pride (his desire to compete with God) was what caused his fall from Heaven, and his resultant transformation into Satan. In Dante's Divine Comedy, the penitents are burdened with stone slabs on their necks which force them to keep their heads bowed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins
(On reflection, I see some irony in the accusation I make regarding a deadly sin and 'Bizarro Damned.')
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For some of us the thread deviation over whether Skyrr (and his squadies) deserves respect or even admiration in this thread was never about how he chooses to fly but more about how he is a boor on the forum about it.
Actually, I've never insisted that anyone adopt my mentality. I think all players should fly the way they best enjoy the game. The only time I've spoken up is in response to the claims that "flying historically" is somehow wrong or less-skilled, and that pursuing anything other than your kill, win, or goal is somehow selfish.
This is a WWII air combat sim, so those tactics apply directly. You can disagree and leave it at that, but to say that I or anyone else is wrong for pursuing time-accurate tactics is backwards to both established ACM doctrine and to critical thinking. The burden of proof lies with the "gamers" to show that their "No HO," "pursue the prolonged turnfight," "stay out of someone else's 1v1" approach is objectively equal or superior to the established air combat tactics of the last 70+ years. And to date, not one person has come up with anything other than subjective responses ("it's not fun," "it's not honorable," etc.). If they could quantify their argument with a statement like "pilots who don't HO have a 34% higher survival rate" and then prove it (again, using tangible data), guess what? I'd concede, and so would any other results-based pilot. I'm not interested in proving my way, I'm simply interested in accepting the most efficient way... whatever that way might be. That's objectivity; but to date, no one has done that.
Fun is subjective. My fun is not your fun and no two people can ever fully be in agreement over what constitutes fun. The same goes for honor, respect, and so forth.
Play the way you want, but don't use subjectivity to defend you're stance that everyone should play the way you want them to.
(On reflection, I see some irony in the accusation I make regarding a deadly sin and 'Bizarro Damned.')
There's lots of ironies with the accusations we receive. Thanks for having the insight to point that out.
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So let's simplify things. The thread was started by someone who wanted to recognize players that are admired. One of your minions and yourself managed to derail that.
So to get it back on track. You fly the way you want to. I find nothing to admire in it or in how you've presented yourself here. So to that end should you wish to continue to continue spewing your manifesto at us, please start your own thread.
And no you don't need to reply as that would continue to derail the thread.
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One of your minions and yourself managed to derail that.
Not correct. Please see where we were brought up long before I ever replied:
poison/skydurp/kruel :rofl
Just waiting for the inevitable Kruel “SKYYLU AKBAH” post.
FLS summed it up quite well:
The notion that his approach to game play is wrong is simply false. Your point is about his approach to the community.
That would be a different conversation and it wouldn't be about his flying.
We never derailed anything nor intended to. Rather, it was the posters who can't separate between objectivity and their personal bias, as pointed out in the quote above.
I'm always willing to leave it at "I agree to disagree," as long as you can differentiate between fact and objectivity versus opinion and subjectivity.
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Not correct. Please see where we were brought up long before I ever replied:
FLS summed it up quite well:
We never derailed anything nor intended to. Rather, it was the posters who can't separate between objectivity and their personal bias, as pointed out in the quote above.
Try again 9th post in the thread. Had been no mention of you or minions prior to that post which had nothing to do with the OP.
Minion posted totally off topic and that's where it started. Please at least attempt to be accurate.
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Not correct. Please see where we were brought up long before I ever replied:
FLS summed it up quite well:
We never derailed anything nor intended to. Rather, it was the posters who can't separate between objectivity and their personal bias, as pointed out in the quote above.
I'm always willing to leave it at "I agree to disagree," as long as you can differentiate between fact and objectivity versus opinion and subjectivity.
It's not personal, but collective in nature. Certainly you note that. As you continue to show the arse you are, you will continue to receive the ridicule you richly deserve. FLS is right, at least I don't have have a problem with the way you fly - it's your thoughts displayed through your keyboard which are pathetic and at the same time, entertaining.
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Actually, I've never insisted that anyone adopt my mentality. I think all players should fly the way they best enjoy the game.
Again, beside the point (not the point I'm addressing). I've been the champion of 'flying any way you want as long as the game allows it' for probably longer than you knew about online MMOG dogfighting. Every player, every squadron has it's own 'ideals.'
What I wonder about is your personal attachment to being identified as a member of 'The Damned' although you admit to being philosophically opposed to the the existing AH squad to the point of forming a different squadron with the same name? There have been differences like this in the past (in our community) without the name hijacking. This isn't like the 'Claim Jumpers' (who are merely forming more squadrons due to squad size limitations - that horde). What you're doing is more akin to 'divorce' and while I can see your attachment to a name (many ex-wives stay attached to such*, along with property and money) is there no other potentially cool name you could adopt?
Hell, you could be:
The Fighter Aces
The Young Guns
Purgatory (not quite damned)
Just don't pick 'The Jolly Rogers (DFC)' (if you would be so kind). ;)
*And yes, I know you used 'The Damned' in FA and if 'The Damned' here had folded before you joined AH I wouldn't find your use of the name in poor form here.
Oh, and humility is a fine trait, even in a virtual fighter combat world where, supposedly, egos 'rule.' :)
Edit: (Apologies, Dan - I shall leave this for another thread is such emerges.)
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I don't and will never recognize his version of The Damned.
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It's not personal, but collective in nature. Certainly you note that. As you continue to show the arse you are, you will continue to receive the ridicule you richly deserve. FLS is right, at least I don't have have a problem with the way you fly - it's your thoughts displayed through your keyboard which are pathetic and at the same time, entertaining.
See here for reference: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/415651-Turnfighting-more-difficult-than-boom-and-zoom-Forums
This is a thread in IL2, and it's not a very uncommon subject. In almost every other sim, turnfighting is viewed as unskilled, yet intuitive and energy fighting is the skilled approach. And this is a tame thread, where the views are split somewhat. Wait until you get into competition ladders and see what the top players' true opinions are of "turnfighting," "HO'ing" (actually called deflection shots elsewhere), and so forth. It's a stark difference to the "it's unskilled and lame" comments here.
I could post numerous other links showing that my views are not only normal, but that they are quite common and completely validated across air combat sims as a genre. These views are validated because they're almost entirely results-based (i.e. objective). My views and playstyle stem from that.
The "collective" can ridicule me all day long, and it bounces right off, because for every player claiming I'm pathetic for being forthright, there's 1,000+ across the genre as a whole proving I'm right. I'm not going to stop posting the truth of the matter just because a collective (ironic choice of words) thinks otherwise.
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And the truth eludes you
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skyyr while contrary to some here most players dont despise you. most players dont really care about you or anybody else, well except midway he was really hated by like 90%.
so while I agree with what you posted and I hate all the others for making me agree with you. just stop posting as it doesnt matter who's right or wrong but the truth is that now most are just regurgitating what was posted before.
and thanks for making me use a big word I havent used since highschool :furious.
semp
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Speaking to everyone, not just skyyr.
This game has a community - unlike CoD or Halo, people matter here. Skyyr's fighter pilot skills have improved immensely and leads to the point I want taken. He has so much to offer but he has ruined his credibility by his own keyboard. Imagine if the guy wasn't a self licking ice cream cone what he could offer to HTC and this community.
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Some players I've admired over my years in AH. Some are based on skill and others are based on what they offered me in AH.
1. Cooley and DH376th.
-These dudes brought me into the squad when I first started in the MA. They showed 2 tricks that have benefited my flying 100% and I always still use today. They taught me how to dive bomb, bomb, tank, and capture bases with a 110 raid using squad tactics. These guys really taught me a lot to the game other than just dogfighting.
2. Bighorn and Batfink
-while being known as some of the best players in AH. These guys kicked my arse over and over again in the DA when I was learning to duel. They taught me so much about dueling and helping to get better. Some of the nicest lads in the game aswell.
3. TA57
- have been fkying with this guy since H2H and he just a really cool dude. He has made his own squad and continues to play the game today. But we have had many great fights and a lot of great convos.
4. Grizz, Sunfanz, tonyjoey, krupnski, Latrobe, many members from the Blue Knights and AoM I highly admire as being some of the best sticks in AH. We have had hella battles and victories together, many great duels, and lots of fun all around playing this game.
5. Changeup, skyrock, and bear76
- They have been over whelmingly generous to give me a headset, rudder peddles, and an SSD card. A players generosity like these 3 have been more than admirable and thankful to me and AH.
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Speaking to everyone, not just skyyr.
This game has a community - unlike CoD or Halo, people matter here. Skyyr's fighter pilot skills have improved immensely and leads to the point I want taken. He has so much to offer but he has ruined his credibility by his own keyboard. Imagine if the guy wasn't a self licking ice cream cone what he could offer to HTC and this community.
I'm sorry. I know I said I wouldn't contribute more but .... I just couldn't resist this one.
Introducing a squadron patch:
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See here for reference: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/415651-Turnfighting-more-difficult-than-boom-and-zoom-Forums
This is a thread in IL2, and it's not a very uncommon subject. In almost every other sim, turnfighting is viewed as unskilled, yet intuitive and energy fighting is the skilled approach. And this is a tame thread, where the views are split somewhat. Wait until you get into competition ladders and see what the top players' true opinions are of "turnfighting," "HO'ing" (actually called deflection shots elsewhere), and so forth. It's a stark difference to the "it's unskilled and lame" comments here.
I could post numerous other links showing that my views are not only normal, but that they are quite common and completely validated across air combat sims as a genre. These views are validated because they're almost entirely results-based (i.e. objective). My views and playstyle stem from that.
The "collective" can ridicule me all day long, and it bounces right off, because for every player claiming I'm pathetic for being forthright, there's 1,000+ across the genre as a whole proving I'm right. I'm not going to stop posting the truth of the matter just because a collective (ironic choice of words) thinks otherwise.
What is mind boggling to me is how poor your comprehension skills are. Everyone has stated repeatedly that you are welcome to fly any way you want.
So why continue to argue about it.
The thread is about people in the game that are admired. No matter how desperate you are to be admired, you can't demand that other people admire you.
People in the AH community are admired for any number of reasons, mainly for how they present themselves, what they contribute to the game and in how they treat other players.
Your defensiveness over the way you fly and your ad nauseum attempts to convince others of the virtue with which you fly is beyond sad at this point. Personally I've reached the point of pitying you as your self worth seems very poor.
You can claim to be the greatest cartoon pilot in the history of flight sims, but what you've contributed to the AH community from what I've seen is nothing. The latest and greatest self proclaimed AH gods come and go. I can't think of a single one of them I've admired for thier scoring or style of play. There are a number of them I've admired for the way they approached and played the game however. Keep in mind style of play and how one plays the game are two different things.
I hope you figure that out some day. Until then you are just another set of pixels in the arena.
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What is mind boggling to me is how poor your comprehension skills are. Everyone has stated repeatedly that you are welcome to fly any way you want.
So why continue to argue about it.
The thread is about people in the game that are admired. No matter how desperate you are to be admired, you can't demand that other people admire you.
People in the AH community are admired for any number of reasons, mainly for how they present themselves, what they contribute to the game and in how they treat other players.
Your defensiveness over the way you fly and your ad nauseum attempts to convince others of the virtue with which you fly is beyond sad at this point. Personally I've reached the point of pitying you as your self worth seems very poor.
You can claim to be the greatest cartoon pilot in the history of flight sims, but what you've contributed to the AH community from what I've seen is nothing. The latest and greatest self proclaimed AH gods come and go. I can't think of a single one of them I've admired for thier scoring or style of play. There are a number of them I've admired for the way they approached and played the game however. Keep in mind style of play and how one plays the game are two different things.
I hope you figure that out some day. Until then you are just another set of pixels in the arena.
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. The same goes for honor, respect, and so forth.
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Was going to post but honestly it's better if nobody even replies to him....they have an agenda here that's why every time I read one of his post it's like...How can this kid not get it? Why is she talking about that? Does he understand that the majority understand exactly what he is saying? Does he understand most of the community started out E fighting and found it to be "easy" and boring?
Later thread this one needs to just get locked, again The Damned turned something that was supposed to be the first decent thread in a while into their dog and pony show.
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And what do you think "winning" is? It's doing your job and succeeding. That means you kill the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible.
If you're in a 109 fighting 80+ US fighters, are you going to try some AH-based "honorable" tactic and turn and loop and avoid shots forward of the 3/9 line? No, you're going to shoot down every fighter that crosses your windscreen, whether it's in the face or not; you're going to rope, stay vertical, and do whatever you can to kill as many as you can and then get home alive... because what matters is beating the other guy and nothing else.
The guys here talking of "honor" in combat have no conception of actual warfare.
Skyrr, if you study WWII history, sooner or later you will run across this example of honor in actual warfare. Apologies if this example has been brought up in the thread already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident)
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Some players I've admired over my years in AH. Some are based on skill and others are based on what they offered me in AH.
5. Changeup, skyrock, and bear76
- They have been over whelmingly generous to give me a headset, rudder peddles, and an SSD card. A players generosity like these 3 have been more than admirable and thankful to me and AH.
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I've enjoyed every minute of watching you fly bub... :salute
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Skyrr, if you study WWII history, sooner or later you will run across this example of honor in actual warfare. Apologies if this example has been brought up in the thread already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident)
(http://www.libertystudios.us/_img/InThePresence/ITP-Main.png)
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not that I give a crap what that mutt says...but damn fine point...one of the best actually, of what true Honor is.....and the exact opposite of what he thinks. :salute
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Recent posts bring up an interesting point - I would "admire" a player who donated hardware, subscription fees, his time in the training arena, and so on, much more, and long before, I would "admire" somebody with the ability to win duels or be ranked #1. That said, there is nothing wrong with admiring skill in the game, but attitude and generosity should both rank above skill IMO. I think many (certainly not all considering who just started posting in the thread this week) probably feel the same. There is also a number of players who do all the above - demonstrate great skill, take time to help others, have a great, friendly attitude, and donate hardware/sub fees.
I think it was Big R that just recently posted, giving away a decent video card after upgrading, plus he's excellent in the P51, so he gets my nod for player of the week.
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Skyrr, if you study WWII history, sooner or later you will run across this example of honor in actual warfare. Apologies if this example has been brought up in the thread already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident)
(http://www.libertystudios.us/_img/InThePresence/ITP-Main.png)
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And in that example, the bomber was no longer a threat. It was honor after the fact, at least on the part of the Germans. That is why it was let go. Again, completely different from "not HO'ing," turnfighting for sportsmanship, etc.
Yes, I can agree that is "honor," but not in the same manner that routinely gets brought up here.
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Gotta love how you avoid that which you can't explain away.
What does any of your blathering have to do with a thread talking about players that are admired? You ca t possibly be that attention starved.
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Gotta love how you avoid that which you can't explain away.
What does any of your blathering have to do with a thread talking about players that are admired? You ca t possibly be that attention starved.
That has been his M.O. the entire time here in AH.
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As I said before, ignore him and he loses.
In fact I'm actually trying out the ignore feature for the first time, it's pretty cool. :aok
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Good idea how does it work again?
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Profile>personal message options>ignore list :aok
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Profile>personal message options>ignore list :aok
Lmao
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Profile>personal message options>ignore list :aok
More importantly it works better in the game.. :aok
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What is mind boggling to me is how poor your comprehension skills are. Everyone has stated repeatedly that you are welcome to fly any way you want.
So why continue to argue about it.
The thread is about people in the game that are admired. No matter how desperate you are to be admired, you can't demand that other people admire you.
People in the AH community are admired for any number of reasons, mainly for how they present themselves, what they contribute to the game and in how they treat other players.
Your defensiveness over the way you fly and your ad nauseum attempts to convince others of the virtue with which you fly is beyond sad at this point. Personally I've reached the point of pitying you as your self worth seems very poor.
You can claim to be the greatest cartoon pilot in the history of flight sims, but what you've contributed to the AH community from what I've seen is nothing. The latest and greatest self proclaimed AH gods come and go. I can't think of a single one of them I've admired for thier scoring or style of play. There are a number of them I've admired for the way they approached and played the game however. Keep in mind style of play and how one plays the game are two different things.
I hope you figure that out some day. Until then you are just another set of pixels in the arena.
:aok :salute
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Profile>personal message options>ignore list :aok
Thanks Mar :cheers:
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Any time! :cheers:
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More importantly it works better in the game.. :aok
Midway used to be the only player I squelched as soon as I logged in, or forgetting to do so the very first time I saw his name in the text buffer. Made the AH experience a thousand times better.
This clown has recently become instant squelch #2. Gonna have to add him to the ignore list here in the forums as well.
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The players I admire most are many, they are also the ones who do not define how others should play based on their own personal expectations, or judge them for failing the standards that they often fail to achieve themselves.
This is a thread that got way off track, perhaps because someone didn't see their name in lights and got their ego bruised :) Typical, this is why we can't have nice things, someone always insists on peeing on the carpet.
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vDallas and Midway.
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This is a thread that got way off track, perhaps because someone didn't see their name in lights and got their ego bruised :) Typical, this is why we can't have nice things, someone always insists on peeing on the carpet.
ROC, Aces High has a small vocal minority of narcissistic Richard Craniums out there that are not helping the community at all. Fortunately, they tend to implode under the massive gravitational pull of their ego and get banned eventually. We lost one this past week, but unfortunately there are more out there.
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Recent posts bring up an interesting point - I would "admire" a player who donated hardware, subscription fees, his time in the training arena, and so on, much more, and long before, I would "admire" somebody with the ability to win duels or be ranked #1. That said, there is nothing wrong with admiring skill in the game, but attitude and generosity should both rank above skill IMO. I think many (certainly not all considering who just started posting in the thread this week) probably feel the same. There is also a number of players who do all the above - demonstrate great skill, take time to help others, have a great, friendly attitude, and donate hardware/sub fees.
I think it was Big R that just recently posted, giving away a decent video card after upgrading, plus he's excellent in the P51, so he gets my nod for player of the week.
i just gave away 2 23in monitors. does that make me have honor? nope. I have also given away firefighter, x52 stick, ram , cpu. also helped a fellow flier get back on his feet. he stayed with me a couple of months and I helped him with a couple of hundred bucks.
does that mean i have honor? I dont think so, and specially I will never get honor playing a stupid cartoon game.
honor is when you look back and smile as you help somebody else. I perhaps have looked back and smiled a couple of times, but I am not different than anybody else.
semp
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Honor....no but it is admirable, and since that's what the thread is about.....well :aok
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i just gave away 2 23in monitors. does that make me have honor? nope. I have also given away firefighter, x52 stick, ram , cpu. also helped a fellow flier get back on his feet. he stayed with me a couple of months and I helped him with a couple of hundred bucks.
does that mean i have honor? I dont think so, and specially I will never get honor playing a stupid cartoon game.
honor is when you look back and smile as you help somebody else. I perhaps have looked back and smiled a couple of times, but I am not different than anybody else.
semp
Agree 100%. :aok
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What is mind boggling to me is how poor your comprehension skills are. Everyone has stated repeatedly that you are welcome to fly any way you want.
So why continue to argue about it.
The thread is about people in the game that are admired. No matter how desperate you are to be admired, you can't demand that other people admire you.
People in the AH community are admired for any number of reasons, mainly for how they present themselves, what they contribute to the game and in how they treat other players.
Your defensiveness over the way you fly and your ad nauseum attempts to convince others of the virtue with which you fly is beyond sad at this point. Personally I've reached the point of pitying you as your self worth seems very poor.
You can claim to be the greatest cartoon pilot in the history of flight sims, but what you've contributed to the AH community from what I've seen is nothing. The latest and greatest self proclaimed AH gods come and go. I can't think of a single one of them I've admired for thier scoring or style of play. There are a number of them I've admired for the way they approached and played the game however. Keep in mind style of play and how one plays the game are two different things.
I hope you figure that out some day. Until then you are just another set of pixels in the arena.
Um.........................ye ah - that just about says it all.
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I would like to amend my earlier nomination.
In addition to JUDAS who is one hell of a good stick and a good sport win or loose, I would like to include:
Lilmak- Anytime I have a question he probably has the answer. He is not just helpful with questions but is also willing to help you train and offer his input on where improvement can be made. He also sent me his old x52 after he replaced it which finally gave me the button count that I needed to push my plane harder.
Latrobe- He sent me his old graphics card (that's still not installed because of the inferior PSU... :bhead). And, whether good or usually bad, he encourages me to do the kinds of stupid shenanigans that cause me to loose 700 perks in the course of an hour and have an absolute blast doing it. He's also right there with me during these purging sessions (when he can afford it).
Raynos- For the same reasons as Latrobe more or less, though I think his exposure to the P-39 may have made him delusional... :noid
Greebo- For selflessly giving up so much of his free time to create so many of the beautiful skin we have in game.
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i just gave away 2 23in monitors. does that make me have honor? nope. I have also given away firefighter, x52 stick, ram , cpu. also helped a fellow flier get back on his feet. he stayed with me a couple of months and I helped him with a couple of hundred bucks.
does that mean i have honor? I dont think so, and specially I will never get honor playing a stupid cartoon game.
honor is when you look back and smile as you help somebody else. I perhaps have looked back and smiled a couple of times, but I am not different than anybody else.
semp
You are in part wrong. As giving away those things and doing those things were in fact honorable acts. Those acts being virtuous and worthy of praise and/or respect. Having honor has also something to do with character
"Of all the properties which belong to honorable men, not one is so highly prized as that of character." Henry Clay
Honor is in doing things you dont have to.(such as you did) And sometimes by showing respect by not doing things just because you can.
Honor is in the way you conduct yourself.
Honor is about self sacrifice for the good or betterment of others. This is why we hold our soldiers in such high esteem and recognize them to have honor.
But While our military personnel deserves a a very high degree of honor for their self sacrifice. Honor is not exclusive to them. You do not have to be a soldier or in the military to have honor or to behave honorably.
Honor and behaving honorably. It is not only about fighting or combat, it is also about how one behaves towards the world and behaving with a certain degree of higher character. Being honorable means taking the difficult, but righteous path when you have the option to take the easy, unethical path.
In competition it means behaving within a degree of ethics and not acting with what is largely considered bad form such as gamesmanship.
And example of a lack of integrity would be
"Anyone who seeks to gain an advantage over his or her opponent by means of a skill that the game itself was not designed to test demonstrates a lack of personal integrity and violates the integrity of the game."
Honor is a combination of not only how you see yourself. But in how you behave and how you are seen by others
I could write more. But there is a good explanation of honor here (saves me the trouble)
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/12/21/manly-honor-vii-how-and-why-to-revive-manly-honor-in-the-twenty-first-century/
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i just gave away 2 23in monitors. does that make me have honor? nope. I have also given away firefighter, x52 stick, ram , cpu. also helped a fellow flier get back on his feet. he stayed with me a couple of months and I helped him with a couple of hundred bucks.
does that mean i have honor? I dont think so, and specially I will never get honor playing a stupid cartoon game.
honor is when you look back and smile as you help somebody else. I perhaps have looked back and smiled a couple of times, but I am not different than anybody else.
semp
The thread was meant to be about people in the game we admire. Your helping out others who you've met via the game is admirable.
It shows a ability to separate the game from real life and an understanding that dealing with people respectfully is more important than anything in the game.
And that's honorable.
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If you want a combat sim, this isn't the right game or crowd.
from a different thread.
Highlights severe inconsistency in your game ethos.
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from a different thread.
Highlights severe inconsistency in your game ethos.
No, it simply highlights your ability to repeatedly quote things out of context.
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from a different thread.
Highlights severe inconsistency in your game ethos.
Bat, it isn't worth it. The only time I now see his drivel, is when it is quoted.
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Yes if you must quote him please at least erase the contents of the quote before you post. :salute
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Yes if you must quote him please at least erase the contents of the quote before you post. :salute
This x100
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Oh, just making conversation :angel:
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Is Skryyer the new midway
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Is Skryyer the new midway
Skyrr seems alright to me. Haven't read anything that tells me otherwise. :salute
Now, Midway I'm kinda partial too. Very nice pilot and pretty decent in a fight too if I do say so myself. :)
... and they both seem to like flying in Aces High very much. :aok
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something tells me amp is the new midway. Hopefully I win a prize at the Sherlock Holmes awards... :pray
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something tells me amp is the new midway. Hopefully I win a prize at the Sherlock Holmes awards... :pray
Benedict Cumberbatch you might be Bruv. :joystick:
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something tells me amp is the new midway. Hopefully I win a prize at the Sherlock Holmes awards... :pray
:aok :banana: :airplane: :joystick: :neener:
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Benedict Cumberbatch you might be Bruv. :joystick:
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KAHN!!!!!
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Thought I heard my name.
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Players to admire? Look in the mirror!
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Not everyone is a total narcissist Rip.
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something tells me amp is the new midway. Hopefully I win a prize at the Sherlock Holmes awards... :pray
It's him alright. Thought he got png'd.
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(https://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/khan.jpg)
KAHN!!!!!
Slashilishous!! Sup slut? :devil
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Totally different personalities. Midday had a certain charm and charisma about him that made him worth talking to.
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Totally different personalities. Midday had a certain charm and charisma about him that made him worth talking to.
Agreed, Midway was at least funny. Skyyr is just a plague that needs to go. I miss Midway and his Spit, at least he would fight you.
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Totally different personalities. Midday had a certain charm and charisma about him that made him worth talking to.
+1
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Later thread this one needs to just get locked, again The Damned turned something that was supposed to be the first decent thread in a while into their dog and pony show.
I beg to differ, JunkyII.... The Damned has done no such thing...... just look back at the first and only post I made to this thread
The Damned ( from AW/WB/Targetware - Target Rabual/ FA pre year 2000 ) which is my group and also whel's has a wing under his tag ( not sure who all is still flying in his wing ) was a great big ol' fun and enjoyable group of people, who for the most part simply played for fun and to help in any way we could to help others in the game learn the game, enjoy the game, design scenarios, design terrains, make plane skins, etc etc ad infinium......
Drano & Joker ( Joker1 ) were the CO's for the Damned SE / Damned FSO squad which ran up to around 2008/2009,
As Kruel ( and skyyr I think ) have mentioned, they decided to break away from and form their own damned squad here in AH, nothing else needs to be said about it......... I hardly fly in the MA and when I do I fly for the knights as has always been the case since the Damned moved and settled there back in 2001, after we tried a month or so in both Bish land and Rook land.....
I agree with Kingpin/rynorush that this topic should get back on topic, and stick on topic for those that want to post in it regarding the "Topic Title"----> "Players to admire"
it is kind of saddening that so many of these threads get side stepped & high jacked, ending up reverting to something about the Damned...... there is no reason for this, if people would just post in regards to what the topic is about and nothing more
nothing ever remains the same, if it did, then things would become stagnant and the game would whither away..... even us "old farts" ( liked your post bustr :aok :old: ) know that that it is possible to look back and remember the early old glory days, but we also know that things change just like the time, and we all must adapt to change or die out like the old games we once played have died out!
Cheers
TC
I fully understand the concept of why the OP made this thread...... and just a FYI, The Damned did not hijack nor turn this thread in to our own little dog and pony show! not my Damned squadron, anyhow...... :old: we don't do stuff like that :bolt:
:cheers:
TC
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I thought this was a thread about "who we admire in game" not "who we dont".
Here s who I admire.
The CM's
The Training Corps
The Terrain Builders
The Skinners
The CiC's
All of these folks spend untold hours of their own time ensuring that the rest of us can have some fun in various arenas at various times! Without these volunteers the game would not be what it is today!
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Slashilishous!! Sup slut? :devil
Living the dream! :D
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That has been his M.O. the entire time here in AH.
He values his video game image more than his own actual life... Pretty sad
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Totally different personalities. Midday had a certain charm and charisma about him that made him worth talking to.
:aok I actually loved watching midway talk on 200 :rofl
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I beg to differ, JunkyII.... The Damned has done no such thing...... just look back at the first and only post I made to this thread
I fully understand the concept of why the OP made this thread...... and just a FYI, The Damned did not hijack nor turn this thread in to our own little dog and pony show! not my Damned squadron, anyhow...... :old: we don't do stuff like that :bolt:
:cheers:
TC
Hiya, TC! No confusion tween The Damned and Damned Ice Cream Kones. It's all good. I've always admired ya.
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Agreed, Midway was at least funny. Skyyr is just a plague that needs to go. I miss Midway and his Spit, at least he would fight you.
You think there's too many players in the MA?
We have a lot of young players.
Best thing to do is be an admirable example. :aok
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I beg to differ, JunkyII.... The Damned has done no such thing...... just look back at the first and only post I made to this thread
I fully understand the concept of why the OP made this thread...... and just a FYI, The Damned did not hijack nor turn this thread in to our own little dog and pony show! not my Damned squadron, anyhow...... :old: we don't do stuff like that :bolt:
:cheers:
TC
That has been established TC. As Arlo stated, we know the score.
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Skyrr seems alright to me. Haven't read anything that tells me otherwise. :salute
Now, Midway I'm kinda partial too. Very nice pilot and pretty decent in a fight too if I do say so myself. :)
... and they both seem to like flying in Aces High very much. :aok
:airplane: :joystick:
Hi Midway!
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Totally different personalities. Midday had a certain charm and charisma about him that made him worth talking to.
Was talking about amp. He IS Midway
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You think there's too many players in the MA?
We have a lot of young players.
Best thing to do is be an admirable example. :aok
Latrobe is "an admirable example".
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I beg to differ, JunkyII.... The Damned has done no such thing...... just look back at the first and only post I made to this thread
I fully understand the concept of why the OP made this thread...... and just a FYI, The Damned did not hijack nor turn this thread in to our own little dog and pony show! not my Damned squadron, anyhow...... :old: we don't do stuff like that :bolt:
:cheers:
TC
Poison wasn't part of your Damned...think everyone knows who I was referring to.
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ROC, Aces High has a small vocal minority of narcissistic Richard Craniums out there that are not helping the community at all. Fortunately, they tend to implode under the massive gravitational pull of their ego and get banned eventually. We lost one this past week, but unfortunately there are more out there.
Doesn't matter about the png. They just make a new bbs account and pick up where they left off. :mad:
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Doesn't matter about the png. They just make a new bbs account and pick up where they left off. :mad:
You can run, but you cant hide. Punks are easy to sniff out, often with little to no effort. :aok
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I admire that we have a community, and this game is still here being fought over by that community after all this time. Even if it's made up of the "good", "bad", and "sister twisted silly"......
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Latrobe is "an admirable example".
Generally I agree. But saying players you don't like shouldn't be playing isn't admirable.
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Generally I agree. But saying players you don't like shouldn't be playing isn't admirable.
Players that create a cesspool type atmosphere shouldn't be playing the game. What little they add to the game is easily taken away by the negativity they spawn and the players they chase away. Is that a better way to say it FLS? :D
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Generally I agree. But saying players you don't like shouldn't be playing isn't admirable.
Anyone paying their $9 a month are welcome, even if they display despicable traits. Having said that, certainly no one in this community is immune to backlash.
I would like to to hear your reservations about Latrobe. You said generally, which I interpret to mean you have some reservation. Or maybe you took a step out with your statement to defend a point which I still don't understand
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Anyone paying their $9 a month are welcome, even if they display despicable traits. Having said that, certainly no one in this community is immune to backlash.
I would like to to hear your reservations about Latrobe. You said generally, which I interpret to mean you have some reservation. Or maybe you took a step out with your statement to defend a point which I still don't understand
I like Latrobe. I think he's a good guy. And I explained what I took exception to.
Players that create a cesspool type atmosphere shouldn't be playing the game. What little they add to the game is easily taken away by the negativity they spawn and the players they chase away. Is that a better way to say it FLS? :D
I believe it's up to Hitech to decide who stays and who goes.
I also think that problematic negativity is a group effort and can't be blamed on one person.
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I like Latrobe. I think he's a good guy. And I explained what I took exception to.
I'm not that bright obviously, what is it you take exception to?
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I don't think the thread is about players we wanna vote off the island as much as players we wouldn't mind being marooned with on the same island (in a purely platonic way).
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Maybe players would be nice to each other if we started handing out awards for admirable behavior... :noid
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While most of us know of players we admire for various reasons, popularity contents are stupid. There have been players that have achieved amazing in-game accomplishments, such as 100 kills in a me262 etc... but beyond that, its a ripe opportunity for the usual bbs nonsense. :cheers: to the playes who provided endless hours of AH fun...
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:cheers: to the players who provided endless hours of AH fun...
BOOM right there. Drop the mic and walk away Ardy....
(SUP Bro!) :D
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(SUP Bro!) :D
Hey man! nice to see you're still around
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Generally I agree. But saying players you don't like shouldn't be playing isn't admirable.
I'm getting the impression you aren't up to speed on the subject.
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I'm not that bright obviously, what is it you take exception to?
That thing I said that you quoted when you made the statement I just quoted.
I'm getting the impression you aren't up to speed on the subject.
Of course I must be wrong if I disagree with you. :lol.
Kids. :D
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1 Greebo great skinner
2. Fester great maps
3. The entire group of scenario guys
4. YUCCA For murdering me over and over giving me ambition to be better
5. Dan/Guppy/CorkyJr wealth of knowledge
6. Lazer and Shuffler for showing me what a nimble beast the 38 can be.
Simple list i don't play as much as id like but i admire the time theses guys put in. :cheers:
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Hey man! nice to see you're still around
And I'd like you to bring your barnyard bellybutton to the DA for a whippin. Where ya been??? What's her name??? lmao!!
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In no particular order:
Laser
Karaya
Dodger
Nikonguy
GryBusey (talks smack but never personal)
Bruv119
SHawk
Latrobe
Shuffled
Silat
Lusche
And many others.
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Of course I must be wrong if I disagree with you. :lol.
Kids. :D
It's not just Slash cur
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Skyyr
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I am beginning to like skyyer and I hate all of you for that :devil. he believes in what he does while some of you believe in some ah utopia. dang it I am beginning to sound like bustr too :uhoh.
the only rule we have in the game and I believe it was posted by an ah worker is "dont be a dick". all of us 100% are guilty of violating that rule because of somebody else's misguided opinion. so get off your high horses, man up if you get killed anyway the other player saw fit. spring is almost upon us so get your lotion and get it in the face, if you dont like that, then look back and smile. point is dont be a dick if you got shot down because you think every fight should be fought with a cartoon honor. no such thing.
semp
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I am beginning to like skyyer and I hate all of you for that :devil. he believes in what he does while some of you believe in some ah utopia. dang it I am beginning to sound like bustr too :uhoh.
the only rule we have in the game and I believe it was posted by an ah worker is "dont be a dick". all of us 100% are guilty of violating that rule because of somebody else's misguided opinion. so get off your high horses, man up if you get killed anyway the other player saw fit. spring is almost upon us so get your lotion and get it in the face, if you dont like that, then look back and smile. point is dont be a dick if you got shot down because you think every fight should be fought with a cartoon honor. no such thing.
semp
People don't like him because he is a dick.....others words are better to describe his personality but those would get reported :aok
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People don't like him because he is a dick.....others words are better to describe his personality but those would get reported :aok
He isn't though lol well he has never been a male genitile to me at least. I think it is maybe because I don't provoke him or give him reason to be a male genitile. On the other hand, others who "confront" him in this virtual world are really asking for it.
Just my opinion, he isn't a male genitile. There aren't many of them in the game, in my opinion. Maybe it's because I just don't take anyone in the game serious. Anyone who thinks someone in a video game is a "dick" is taking the game a little too serious. At the end of the day it's always just a game and it is only interfering with my ability to get women.
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It's not just Slash cur
I will change my opinion immediately to sooth your emotional distress. :lol
Kids. :D
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He isn't though lol well he has never been a male genitile to me at least. I think it is maybe because I don't provoke him or give him reason to be a male genitile. On the other hand, others who "confront" him in this virtual world are really asking for it.
Just my opinion, he isn't a male genitile. There aren't many of them in the game, in my opinion. Maybe it's because I just don't take anyone in the game serious. Anyone who thinks someone in a video game is a "dick" is taking the game a little too serious. At the end of the day it's always just a game and it is only interfering with my ability to get women.
:aok
Someone gets it.
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or one other person doesn't get it could be a possibility :D
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Anyone who thinks someone in a video game is a "dick" is taking the game a little too serious.
I'm not calling anyone a dick here but I have to disagree with this statement, being rude and whatever the urban definition of dick is largely reflects how one treats people in real life, considering that you're treating other people in a game that way. The attitude may be exaggerated due to the fact that you're doing this to people that can't do anything to hurt you, but I believe this to not always be the case.
Game or not I don't diddly around with people like that.
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male genitile
What is that?
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I'm not calling anyone a dick here but I have to disagree with this statement, being rude and whatever the urban definition of dick is largely reflects how one treats people in real life, considering that you're treating other people in a game that way. The attitude may be exaggerated due to the fact that you're doing this to people that can't do anything to hurt you, but I believe this to not always be the case.
Game or not I don't diddly around with people like that.
I believe you are only saying this because of certain topics that have came to light, Being a donut head in a Video game doesn't mean that you are like this in the Real World.
Look below and reread what Ghost said here, If you think about it and go back on past topics and threads about me AND a lot of others compared to now(Que Dayton gathering crew) They will tell you I am far from the person I use to act like back in 04-09, Times change I grew older and tired of Toying with all the hot shots that thought they were the best.
I will never forget it either, Can't really recall the person who stressed it to me but it went something like this " No matter how good you think you are no matter what, You are always going to have those bad days where you can't win every fight or be the best Pilot in the Game, Because on any given night if it be that person's A Game night you will lose" After that I gave up the whole chest pounding,counting Muppet scalps, or whoever else thought they could take me.
Just like Many others, Skyyr and The Damned have came to AH and yes they have made a name for themselves it may not be the name a MINORITY OF THE COMMUNITY WANTS THEM TO BE REMEMBERED FOR, But that is not you're guys choice to make. Those of you who are so quick to judge someone/Other who are different from you or you're thought's/Beliefs you guys belittle them and berate them for it.
I don't admire any of you, Not a single one that has posted such garbage about The Damned or anyone for that matter, Just because of the way they choose to play the game.
Those of you that lay claim that we should listen to you and try to grasp the concept of why you want us to Fly that particular way or play that particular way Just to please you and the MINORITY OF THE GAME, I am sorry but I am not here to please anyone except for my own sense of Joy and time of relaxation of Flying the Best Sim out.
And to Create some of the best memories with the peeps I enjoy flying with. :salute :salute
He isn't though lol well he has never been a male genitile to me at least. I think it is maybe because I don't provoke him or give him reason to be a male genitile. On the other hand, others who "confront" him in this virtual world are really asking for it.
Just my opinion, he isn't a male genitile. There aren't many of them in the game, in my opinion. Maybe it's because I just don't take anyone in the game serious. Anyone who thinks someone in a video game is a "dick" is taking the game a little too serious. At the end of the day it's always just a game and it is only interfering with my ability to get women.
QFT!
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I believe you are only saying this because of certain topics that have came to light, Being a donut head in a Video game doesn't mean that you are like this in the Real World.
I am of the opinion that one should not be a different persona behind a monitor. Your opinions, thoughts, and manner in AH should be the same as you intend to portray face to face.
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QFT!
Minority?!?!! You and I know that isn't true...
HTC can we get a poll in the MA?
Is Skyyr a Dick?
Yes or No
Just because he's a Dick doesn't mean he is a bad stick or anything(Or that he is like this IRL). A lot of people called Richard Sherman an bellybutton hat after that interview, doesn't take away from his in game skill. But if you act like a dick, be ready to be called out on it. Don't try to play this card of, "oh you just can't handle competition". All of the most ADMIRED competitors gave credit when it was do and the certainly gave a good game afterwards.
He could be like RuMaL where you kill him and he says HO even though you are on his dead six :aok
HTC, we are allowed to say Dick right? Skuzzy said it first???
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So, keyboard warriors are ok now? It's ok to cause stress for other people who are playing a game to relieve stress? It's ok to cause stress just for the sake of causing stress? What are the benifits of stress? What good comes of it?
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I am of the opinion that one should not be a different persona behind a monitor. Your opinions, thoughts, and manner in AH should be the same as you intend to portray face to face.
If they are a dick online, then they have to want to be a dick. That usually means that they have a tenancy to it in real life.
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Again the same few ......people screw up another thread to voice their agenda. There is a "Congrats Musskies!" thread, why don't you go trash that one too. :rolleyes:
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So, keyboard warriors are ok now? It's ok to cause stress for other people who are playing a game to relieve stress? It's ok to cause stress just for the sake of causing stress? What are the benifits of stress? What good comes of it?
You get stress from a video game??? :confused:
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If they are a dick online, then they have to want to be a dick. That usually means that they have a tenancy to it in real life.
Not true at all
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I believe you are only saying this because of certain topics that have came to light, Being a donut head in a Video game doesn't mean that you are like this in the Real World.
Look below and reread what Ghost said here, If you think about it and go back on past topics and threads about me AND a lot of others compared to now(Que Dayton gathering crew) They will tell you I am far from the person I use to act like back in 04-09, Times change I grew older and tired of Toying with all the hot shots that thought they were the best.
I will never forget it either, Can't really recall the person who stressed it to me but it went something like this " No matter how good you think you are no matter what, You are always going to have those bad days where you can't win every fight or be the best Pilot in the Game, Because on any given night if it be that person's A Game night you will lose" After that I gave up the whole chest pounding,counting Muppet scalps, or whoever else thought they could take me.
Just like Many others, Skyyr and The Damned have came to AH and yes they have made a name for themselves it may not be the name a MINORITY OF THE COMMUNITY WANTS THEM TO BE REMEMBERED FOR, But that is not you're guys choice to make. Those of you who are so quick to judge someone/Other who are different from you or you're thought's/Beliefs you guys belittle them and berate them for it.
I don't admire any of you, Not a single one that has posted such garbage about The Damned or anyone for that matter, Just because of the way they choose to play the game.
Those of you that lay claim that we should listen to you and try to grasp the concept of why you want us to Fly that particular way or play that particular way Just to please you and the MINORITY OF THE GAME, I am sorry but I am not here to please anyone except for my own sense of Joy and time of relaxation of Flying the Best Sim out.
And to Create some of the best memories with the peeps I enjoy flying with. :salute :salute
QFT!
Doc I have to disagree. This has never been about how he plays the game. The thread is about people admired In Game. It isn't about the Damned. Too many good people were or are a part of that group. Frankly it would have been nice if the late Poison hadn't been so thin skinned about how he plays the game that he felt the need in the ninth post in the thread to derail the good intentions of the OP by wanting to argue about flying styles. Skyrr joined the parade to try and do the same and here we are.
The OP has every right to admire a player for the way he plays. That doesn't mean he is taking a shot at anyone else. The Damned DFC or whatever it's called has gone out of thier way to keep the thread derailed. If in fact they don't care what anyone thinks than why can't they leave the thread to its original intent.
And Doc I know you enough to know it does matter to you in how folks see you.
Understand there is a huge difference in the guys who take shots at each other in fun and those who just act like idiots because they can.
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Not true at all
I don't get out much, and I can usually spot a dick from 5 blocks away and make a point of avoiding them, so I'll just take your word for it. ;)
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I don't get out much, and I can usually spot a dick from 5 blocks away and make a point of avoiding them, so I'll just take your word for it. ;)
I contend there are people that portray themselves completely different from their keyboard than they would face to face. Those that are the same deek in their online persona as they are face to face I can't explain.
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if someone wants a really good laugh...they should be able to find a certain AR-15 site with a certain member that is here.....
wow...talk about delusional....
and DrBone Unclebone which ever one you are..... :rofl :rofl :rofl that's priceless coming from you...just sayin. ;)
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Understand there is a huge difference in the guys who take shots at each other in fun and those who just act like idiots because they can.
Aha! You see, there's a third group of people - those who take shots at others and then claim the "I was just kidding" defense when they get owned by someone else, namely the fourth type of player: those who have a "don't mess with me and I won't mess with you" mentality, but will not hesitate to fight fire with fire when messed with.
And Doc I know you enough to know it does matter to you in how folks see you.
I doubt it. Even with my limited interactions with him, I know DrBone well enough to know what drives him. He's his own competitor, and he's always competing with himself to get better. Most people will never understand the endless self-driven endeavor of people like this, it's a persistence that simply won't die or go away.
Mess with someone like that, and they simply take that passion and aim it in your direction, partially because they think it's nice to have a change of pace, and partially because they enjoy seeing someone eat their words. And they won't let up until they're bored, because they don't care about things much to begin with.
People I admire ingame:
Kruel
TonyJoey
DrBone
GhostCDB
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<Salute> MY OWN ASS
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Aha! You see, there's a third group of people - those who take shots at others and then claim the "I was just kidding" defense when they get owned by someone else, namely the fourth type of player: those who have a "don't mess with me and I won't mess with you" mentality, but will not hesitate to fight fire with fire when messed with.
I doubt it. Even with my limited interactions with him, I know DrBone well enough to know what drives him. He's his own competitor, and he's always competing with himself to get better. Most people will never understand the endless self-driven endeavor of people like this, it's a persistence that simply won't die or go away.
Mess with someone like that, and they simply take that passion and aim it in your direction, partially because they think it's nice to have a change of pace, and partially because they enjoy seeing someone eat their words. And they won't let up until they're bored, because they don't care about things much to begin with.
People I admire ingame:
Kruel
TonyJoey
DrBone
GhostCDB
Now that you finally seem to understand the aim of this thread, does that mean you are done polluting it?
As for Doc, we will have to disagree. I think better of him
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Minority?!?!! You and I know that isn't true...
HTC can we get a poll in the MA?
Is Skyyr a Dick?
Yes or No
Just because he's a Dick doesn't mean he is a bad stick or anything(Or that he is like this IRL). A lot of people called Richard Sherman an bellybutton hat after that interview, doesn't take away from his in game skill. But if you act like a dick, be ready to be called out on it. Don't try to play this card of, "oh you just can't handle competition". All of the most ADMIRED competitors gave credit when it was do and the certainly gave a good game afterwards.
He could be like RuMaL where you kill him and he says HO even though you are on his dead six :aok
HTC, we are allowed to say Dick right? Skuzzy said it first???
Pyro
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i Admire a lot of players in the game but none more than Alpha81 he has taught me alot and all the guys in G3-MF awsome group but to list a few others in no particular order AKAK,TwinBoom,Shuffler,vonholtz von taught me how to dive bomb in a fighter i miss that guy there are many more but its hard to think of everyone :salute
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I will change my opinion immediately to sooth your emotional distress. :lol
Kids. :D
It's making more sense why you like him.
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TC aka TequillaChaser
I should have mentioned you and the original Dammed as you are not a bunch of dweebs who think they are gods in the gane.. <S> to you all as you are gentlemen in a status above and beyond.
LawnDart
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It's making more sense why you like him.
I picture Skyyr doing a spit take reading that. :lol
I understand how Skyyr's position can be an excuse for a behavioral problem.
I hope Skyyr can see how that perception, regardless of the reality, is not good for a community.
That's why I like players who respect HTC's business, respect other players, respect other opinions,
and don't simply present immature perceptions and short-sighted self-interest.
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It's to the point where I don't care how you fly, it is that I should be able to adapt to another style and perform it better than them. Knowing every aspect of how to dogfight and E fight will make you great.
If I lose to someone it was because I messed up or the odds just were near impossible to beat. I might throw a fit and say stuff on 200, but you can damn well expect me to come back again and won't make the same mistake twice. :aok
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What's going on in here?
Something smells like chicken!
JUGgler
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How is it a group of male adults let a single male adult get so far under their skin?
None of you would last a second with BiPoLaR. If you can deal with him you can deal with anyone.
In all seriousness, I have looked up to or currently look up to : Uncle Bone, DrBone, Anarchy (in certain aspects), Blkjack6, Joachim, Skyyr, The mossie dweeb in Loose Deuce I can't think of his name at the moment, Greebo, SNAKEiis, pretty much everyone in Top Gun (former and current), & Brooke.
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How is it a group of male adults let a single male adult get so far under their skin?
Why would we want to play with someone who does his best to get there?
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What did poison get png for?
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So many chains... so many jerks. :P
T.
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What did poison get png for?
My understanding is that he had a meltdown, in game and in the forums.
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What's going on in here?
Something smells like chicken!
JUGgler
The return of the JUGgler? Naa, can't be. JUGgler retired in fear years ago. Must be a shade. :aok :rofl
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What did poison get png for?
Hacking My understanding is that he had a meltdown, in game and in the forums.
If only...
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The return of the JUGgler? Naa, can't be. JUGgler retired in fear years ago. Must be a shade. :aok :rofl
But I want him to come back so bad! I want him to whip me in the DA! :cry
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! I want him to whip me in the DA! :cry
Oooooohh that sound so kinkie. :x
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Oooooohh that sound so kinkie. :x
Dirty old man. ;)
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Hacking If only...
Nah he was PNGed for rule #2's and 4's in numerous threads. He was IP banned for that ^^
Unless you consider the PNG term applicable both to the BBS and in-game.
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None of you would last a second with BiPoLaR. If you can deal with him you can deal with anyone.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
He just compared Skyyr to Bipolar....that's an insult to the both of them, they are almost opposites.
One could care less about his flying(even though he doesn't he is still damn good) one could care less about anything other then his flying(which is constantly comes here to battle about)
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
He just compared Skyyr to Bipolar....that's an insult to the both of them, they are almost opposites.
One could care less about his flying(even though he doesn't he is still damn good) one could care less about anything other then his flying(which is constantly comes here to battle about)
Ironic first paragraph though I agree.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
He just compared Skyyr to Bipolar....that's an insult to the both of them, they are almost opposites.
One could care less about his flying(even though he doesn't he is still damn good) one could care less about anything other then his flying(which is constantly comes here to battle about)
Oh
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How is it a group of male adults let a single male adult get so far under their skin?
None of you would last a second with BiPoLaR. If you can deal with him you can deal with anyone.
You are making incorrect assumptions. At no point did he get under my skin. I tend to have great faith in people and when someone appears to be clueless I like to believe that it isn't the case and if you present something to them they will in the end get it. Sadly that doesn't always work
Comparing him to BiP is rediculous and frankly insulting to BiP. BiPs a good guy who in my experience cares about the game and the people in it. I don't recall him defining himself by a particular style of play. He doesn't suffer fools and will quickly call them out.
I'd fly with BiP anytime as he can separate his ego from the game and enjoy it for what it's worth.
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You are making incorrect assumptions. At no point did he get under my skin. I tend to have great faith in people and when someone appears to be clueless I like to believe that it isn't the case and if you present something to them they will in the end get it. Sadly that doesn't always work
Comparing him to BiP is rediculous and frankly insulting to BiP. BiPs a good guy who in my experience cares about the game and the people in it. I don't recall him defining himself by a particular style of play. He doesn't suffer fools and will quickly call them out.
I'd fly with BiP anytime as he can separate his ego from the game and enjoy it for what it's worth.
I don't care ? :lol
I would rather sleep with attractive women than play this game with ANYONE.
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I don't care ? :lol
I would rather sleep with attractive women than play this game with ANYONE.
Which goes far to explain your current position.
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Which goes far to explain your current position.
Okay Arlo, you're in timeout now. :old:
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Okay Arlo, you're in timeout now. :old:
Mmmmmok.
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:rolleyes: :bhead < How i feel about this entire thread.
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I don't care ? :lol
I would rather sleep with attractive women than play this game with ANYONE.
Not much you say makes sense.. who mentioned anything about women in comparison to this game, or this thread.
Contribute something to the game rather than posting your blather in here.
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Not much you say makes sense.. who mentioned anything about women in comparison to this game, or this thread.
Contribute something to the game rather than posting your blather in here.
Bingo!
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Not much you say makes sense.. who mentioned anything about women in comparison to this game, or this thread.
Contribute something to the game rather than posting your blather in here.
What do you contribute to the game? Just curious
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What do you contribute to the game? Just curious
:rofl
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"CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!" -The Reverend Rodney King Junior.
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What do you contribute to the game? Just curious
:bolt:
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Oh god he's about to try to pull a Fester and withhold skins from us :devil
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What do you contribute to the game? Just curious
Plenty of years playing, helping new guys, and minimal obnoxious behavior while doing so.
But I wont go there, with you, here.
Just trying to silence the garbage in yet ANOTHER thread that had good intention, until a select few trash it.
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See Rule #4
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What do you contribute to the game? Just curious
I greatly appreciate the contributions you've made, sir! Including the soon-to-be released Red LA-7!
:salute
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true that TB
players I have come to admire or a better word in my vernacular would be "respect"
Skyrock was the first(even though I couldn't stand him at first, due to his 200 antics, but I found out he is much different)
Agent360....the first I met that fought like me and never gives up.
Kappa..... due to him being so damn nice.
Irishone....... we are brothers from another mother.
those are the guys that got me thinking of AH more then just a place to kill people.
Honorable mentions
Slash(a real deal true Hero)
Stampf
Hajo
batfink
guppy
Shida
Deadstick
TC
peppr
Bunnies
Krup
TB
hell most all Muppets past and present
there are more
surprisingly there are more I respect that I dont.
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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First off, snark for getting me hooked on this game (May God rest his soul).
Jaxxon of the 353rd
Oak tree
Potsnpans
Flatiron
Whiskey for teaching me the gv part
And Jaeger for putting up with me!
There is more but I haven't got the time to list them all.
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First off, snark for getting me hooked on this game (May God rest his soul).
Jaxxon of the 353rd
Oak tree
Potsnpans
Flatiron
Whiskey for teaching me the gv part
And Jaeger for putting up with me!
There is more but I haven't got the time to list them all.
Ya. Jaeger shares his sheep with all of us who are needy :lol
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Bbosen, for helping me making offline missions loads of more fun, now that he set up a tutorial playlist on YT, and finding the 2.12.4 Ver. Miss. Editor. :salute
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Plenty of years playing, helping new guys, and minimal obnoxious behavior while doing so.
But I wont go there, with you, here.
Just trying to silence the garbage in yet ANOTHER thread that had good intention, until a select few trash it.
:lol
Plenty years of playing is a contribution, who would've thought I've been contributing by just playing a game. Not to mention the few new guys I come across that I try to help out, but hey I don't contribute at all. Although I can't say I have had minimal obnoxious behavior, I've contributed just as much as you if that is your big "contribution" list.
You're trying to silence garbage? Sounds productive and sounds like you gain contributor points for doing so, where do I sign up?
What is WoW?
I greatly appreciate the contributions you've made, sir! Including the soon-to-be released Red LA-7!
:salute
You're very welcome :D
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Players to admire who have been happy to take me under their wing over the years:
Dodger/Laser/Ink/Ammo/LilMak/ftJR/Rocky/Ta57x
Much respect to anyone in the community to take the time to teach others and make this place as fun as it gets :salute
Apologies if I have missed anyone .. you know who you are :salute
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Ughhh I need to play again, I miss you guys. My favorite thing though is not seeing 1 skilled player in a furball against lower skilled players, but seeing 2 equally skilled opponents go at each other. I've seen some 1 vs 1 go on for 30 minutes at a time and the only reason no one died was because they all ran out of ammo or fuel. So beautiful to watch em kill each other.
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BangsBox, i like that guy...I just wish he didnt get married.
AnglEyes, he was one of the most fun guys to fly with in my many years playing AH ("kill the evil-doers"). I wonder what happen to him.
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:lol
Plenty years of playing is a contribution, who would've thought I've been contributing by just playing a game. Not to mention the few new guys I come across that I try to help out, but hey I don't contribute at all. Although I can't say I have had minimal obnoxious behavior, I've contributed just as much as you if that is your big "contribution" list.
You're trying to silence garbage? Sounds productive and sounds like you gain contributor points for doing so, where do I sign up?
What is WoW?
You're very welcome :D
Lazer has done more for this game than you ever will and it isn't even close. But you are right on one thing, you are obnoxious.
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Guess being well known amongst the community and well liked means you contributed more to the game. :lol
Ghost has done more for the Game in the past few years than Most who are posting in this thread.
edit: So we don't get off Track, I admire these groups in particular.
JG11-Stampf
The Loose Deuce-Dhyran,and Save
The Few-Bruv,and Kazaa
Rolling Thunder mob is what I believe they changed it too. KillrDan
The Damned Both old and New, Skyyr,Kruel, and TC.
Pigs On the Wing- Waystin2,Bustr and Razor
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Guess being well known amongst the community and well liked means you contributed more to the game. :lol
Ghost has done more for the Game in the past few years than Most who are posting in this thread.
Wrong on both accounts.
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Plenty of years playing, helping new guys, and minimal obnoxious behavior while doing so.
But I wont go there, with you, here.
Just trying to silence the garbage in yet ANOTHER thread that had good intention, until a select few trash it.
Kinda funny coming from the guy who has been whining/crying in game and on the BBS for the past 2 weeks, Maybe you should take up on you're own advice and walk away from the computer for a few days.
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Waystin2
That's a hard guy not to like, he's the "Nicest Guy in Aces High"!!!! :rock :rock :rock
Razor on the other hand is a big ole A HOLE. He flies easy mode planes(30+ eny) and thinks he's better looking then me just because he's like 20 years older and has more hair on his head....
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Copy that Junky, Never seen a foul word from either Waystin or Razor even when provoked.
Both Stand up Gents! :salute :salute
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I remember some good fights with Agent360 while in my bombers. Always a gentleman to discuss an after action with.
He spent a lot of time in the DA perfecting his craft. Gotta respect guys like that, who DA a lot to hone skill. I'd have been better off following their example. At one time the DA was a real happening place.
To me the ultimate adversary to a Bomber set was/is Lusche. He's the most skilled attacker of Bombers Ive ever encountered.
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I remember some good fights with Agent360 while in my bombers. Always a gentleman to discuss an after action with.
He spent a lot of time in the DA perfecting his craft. Gotta respect guys like that, who DA a lot to hone skill. I'd have been better off following their example. At one time the DA was a real happening place.
To me the ultimate adversary to a Bomber set was/is Lusche. He's the most skilled attacker of Bombers Ive ever encountered.
Agent is a great guy...I am honored to know him.
tenacious as they come :aok
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Guess being well known amongst the community and well liked means you contributed more to the game. :lol
Ghost has done more for the Game in the past few years than Most who are posting in this thread.
Doc, don't misunderstand this, but neither of you have been around long enough to make that comment. In the overall scheme of things, you are a relative newbie to the AH Community that stretches back to both the Warbirds and Airwarrior communities. I go back to 1996 and compared to some folks, I'm a newbie. Fair or not folks earn thier place in the community over time most often by what they bring to the game and community.
As strange as it seems it goes beyond the game with the friendships you build. If you are lucky it goes beyond squads or country affiliation. You find that you know about people families, how thier kids are doing, the new job, or how school is going. That's the best part of it all along with that shared interest in the history.
We all poke at each other when the situation calls for it, but most know where and when it is appropriate and when it's not. In the end that's what happened here. This wasn't the thread to derail for what ever reason as the OP's intent was a good one. It wasn't self serving, but just a wish to acknowledge folks who he admired in game. Fair or unfair the Damned DFC decided to make it about them.
It would have been far better just to start a Damned DFC thread separately if stirring things up was what they wanted to do. Wouldn't have been the first squad to do it or the last no doubt.
So write it off to the BBS learning curve of knowing how to operate and do it better next time :aok
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Doc, don't misunderstand this, but neither of you have been around long enough to make that comment. In the overall scheme of things, you are a relative newbie to the AH Community that stretches back to both the Warbirds and Airwarrior communities. I go back to 1996 and compared to some folks, I'm a newbie. Fair or not folks earn thier place in the community over time most often by what they bring to the game and community.
As strange as it seems it goes beyond the game with the friendships you build. If you are lucky it goes beyond squads or country affiliation. You find that you know about people families, how thier kids are doing, the new job, or how school is going. That's the best part of it all along with that shared interest in the history.
We all poke at each other when the situation calls for it, but most know where and when it is appropriate and when it's not. In the end that's what happened here. This wasn't the thread to derail for what ever reason as the OP's intent was a good one. It wasn't self serving, but just a wish to acknowledge folks who he admired in game. Fair or unfair the Damned DFC decided to make it about them.
It would have been far better just to start a Damned DFC thread separately if stirring things up was what they wanted to do. Wouldn't have been the first squad to do it or the last no doubt.
So write it off to the BBS learning curve of knowing how to operate and do it better next time :aok
:aok
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I admire all the players that are cool
That's most..
The odd ones I don't admire...
Odd as in few not odd..we all are odd
A few are tools but I try to make em laugh..
Some need to lighten up..Francis. .
But most you mofos are cool and up for a fight and a banter
《S》THE community
it's why we're here
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I have been here since early 2002-2015, I would say that's a long time to be here and involved with one community.
Whether I am accepted into this(community)=(MINORITY COMMUNITY) of people who wish to blatantly disrespect/Troll or berate others in any way shape or form is only showing me how you treat others out side of this game if they do not share you're beliefs.
I look at the whole picture, Just like I did with my Damned DFC troll thread. I loved how so many people thought I was trolling The Damned, When in fact it was all those who were finding some way of disrespecting such a great new addition to the community (Skyyr,Kruel and the rest of the Damned) You people wonder why were losing Players, How can you expect people to play this game for some enjoyment when you have a Minority running around saying "This is how you are suppose to play the game and treat others while doing it" I love the hypocrisy that comes of it.
Edit: I won't let another post force my hands in this Thread again, Apologies.
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BangsBox, i like that guy...I just wish he didnt get married.
AnglEyes, he was one of the most fun guys to fly with in my many years playing AH ("kill the evil-doers"). I wonder what happen to him.
PM sent
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I admire all the players that are cool
That's most..
The odd ones I don't admire...
Odd as in few not odd..we all are odd
A few are tools but I try to make em laugh..
Some need to lighten up..Francis. .
But most you mofos are cool and up for a fight and a banter
《S》THE community
it's why we're here
This ^^^^^ :aok :salute
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Canukk of JG11
and
Beaver
For reasons so obvious no explanation is required.
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Grits!
Pfft.....Grits was easy :old:
BTW...where is old sweet cheeks these days??
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Slashilishous!! Sup slut? :devil
You cheat'n on me now Slash......Grits was one thing, but...... :O
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Holy toejame. It's Duke. :D :cheers:
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Holy toejame. It's Duke.
Yikes!
Dude!
- oldman
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Mine goes to bighorn , dude is unreal good .
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Holy toejame. It's Duke. :D :cheers:
:cheers: My brother from another mother....been awhile :)
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Yikes!
Dude!
- oldman
OM....<S> my friend
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:cheers: My brother from another mother....been awhile :)
It really is good to see you post. Stick around and do it more. Ignore the chaff, we'll keep it real. :)
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I admire Lazer cause he flys with a mouse ... cant believe the stuff he pulls off ... with a mouse.
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I miss Silut.... I mean Silat! :old:
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I miss Silut.... I mean Silat! :old:
I know .... hopefully we will see Silat come back to test the new version or something.
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Silat is the guy that dragged me out of AW and introduced me to Aces High. Thank you Silat :old:
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I spoke with Silat on the phone last week. I was trying to schmooz him into coming back to AH.
We will see.
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It is Hockey Season and you know how Silat gets when hockey is on :)
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I admire the guy that sticks to a middle of the road plane, something that doesnt have canons that take your wing off in 3 pings, something that's not ubber turner or ubber climber or ubber runner.
I dont have names. Who often flies a G6 for example. Or Akak in a P38. Lazer too.Hollywood, Oaktree, B2B all P47 dudes that I fight /fly with from time to time. I know Ammo is a squadie butI respect his stuff. Even in a D11 he will give you a fight. I guess I respect the likes of me. I fly a P47 because I love the machine, knowing its not glorious but I do my best with it. If I get shot down, so be it. Theres so much you can do in a P47.
Behavior is important. You can win 1 vs 5 in a Spit8 and Ill fail to be impress if all you do is run your mouth on 200.
So basically it's how you play ... what you fly and how a gentleman you are in and outside AH. It's my view, no hard feelings for the ones that love to buzz around furballs in D9 or win a turnfight in a KI84 and spread the cheese. To each is own.
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We interrupt your currently scheduled mud slinging to bring you this message:
How did Crabby make someones admired list!?!? :D
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
On a serious note: Little one keeping you busy enough Guppy? :aok
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We interrupt your currently scheduled mud slinging to bring you this message:
How did Crabby make someones admired list!?!? :D
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.
On a serious note: Little one keeping you busy enough Guppy? :aok
Because I am delicious of course... You should know this! :old:
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Planning a return probably in the near future...the rust is terrible might need a few weeks in Crabbyland :lol
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I admire skinners first and foremost. That is one hell of a tough job, believe me I know.
Then it is guys like BigR and some others who take the time to show a noob how things work. I can't tell you how many times BigR has started fighting me when we are on the same side just to give me something to learn while we are CAPing a field waiting for Goons...
I also admire all of the guys in my squadron. We have a great time. Always laugh. And there is never a lack of helpful advice when it is sought out.
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I admire skinners first and foremost. That is one hell of a tough job, believe me I know.
Then it is guys like BigR and some others who take the time to show a noob how things work. I can't tell you how many times BigR has started fighting me when we are on the same side just to give me something to learn while we are CAPing a field waiting for Goons...
I also admire all of the guys in my squadron. We have a great time. Always laugh. And there is never a lack of helpful advice when it is sought out.
I am glad you are coming along in a great way Vraciu! yes BigR is one to be admired! an old fart , maybe? but one who CARES! about his community!
cheers
TC
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I am glad you are coming along in a great way Vraciu! yes BigR is one to be admired! an old fart , maybe? but one who CARES! about his community!
cheers
TC
I am trying. Being surrounded by positive influences within my squadron (along with guys like BigR and the 4th FG folks who take me along as a wingman now and then) sure helps.
BigR is absolutely a great guy by any measure. To ride in the cockpit and watch him go after LA-7s on the deck from a disadvantage in a Pony and win....whew.
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KoW
Always a great fight.
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anybody crazy enough to join a 242nd mission :devil :cheers:
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I admire the guy that sticks to a middle of the road plane, something that doesnt have canons that take your wing off in 3 pings, something that's not ubber turner or ubber climber or ubber runner.
Well said. The exception I think would be Bomber hunters. When Im in 26s, 17s, 24s,KI-67s...ect I have no problem with facing guys with BFGs cause I would want one to. Otherwise There are so many 15 to 30 eny planes just waiting for someone competent to jump into them.
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In no particular order:
Laser
Karaya
Dodger
Nikonguy
GryBusey (talks smack but never personal)
Bruv119
SHawk
Latrobe
Shuffled
Silat
Lusche
And many others.
** ahem **
:)
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Last night I saw Latrobe fly a K4 right over the water into about 5 opponents while he was on his own. Theres a small group of players, whose names I wont mention, who do this kinda stuff and its just beautiful how they can bring out the best of an aircraft against multiple opponents. Maybe not with victory measured in perk points ; But "victory" measured with skilled flying. Against impossible odds they will stay alive, even scratching a kill or two, or three. How they keep that fighter plane maneuvering and alive is just beyond me while also keeping such a high level of S/A. The night before I saw someone in a KI-64 do almost the same tho I dont know who it was.
Its for this why I dont pick or at least ask permission before doing so. Because watching a truly skilled player is a pleasure in itself. And in an era of 5 eny B@Z'ers its even more of an enjoyment.
Often perk points dont mean a successful sortie. Often just flying well against skilled opponents brings its own "greater" reward.
Latrobe is crazy. .period :devil :D