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Title: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Yeager on September 02, 2008, 11:45:41 PM
Im not sure how dowding feels about the sun (as if that matters, much) but I enjoyed the write up nonetheless......

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1640770.ece

Damn....Im am excited by all this woman represents!  Sorry to the liberal bloggers and other devil supporters, but she is plain hot!

Cant wait to see how this all pans out!
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Yeager on September 02, 2008, 11:50:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7UzxXv8p4

"Your hittin pretty close to dead center"

Damn, my hero!
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: WWhiskey on September 03, 2008, 12:23:49 AM
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At ten Sarah bagged her first rabbit and she would join Chuck on 3am moose hunts before school


now that is a new twist too the 3 am phone call!!
 she is already locked and loaded, jackrabbits or bad guy's what are we hunting today :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SirLoin on September 03, 2008, 07:40:31 AM
Uh oh..She supports Intelligent Design being taught in schools.

"..and now kids,after biology class get ready for your creationism studies...

..after chemistry,get your books out for the Alchemy class...

..right after your astronomy period,there will be a pop quiz in astrology.."

Ok,she wants equal time in class for creationism...how about equal time for the teaching of evolution in Sunday school?..or else you lose your tax exempt status?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: iWalrus on September 03, 2008, 07:49:13 AM
I'm right there with her on creationism being covered in schools. As long as ALL creation myths are given equal attention, that is. Yes, even that Islamic one. And only in religion (not science) class.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hap on September 03, 2008, 07:52:46 AM
Uh oh..She supports Intelligent Design being taught in schools.

"..and now kids,after biology class get ready for your creationism studies...

..after chemistry,get your books out for the Alchemy class...

..right after your astronomy period,there will be a pop quiz in astrology.."

Ok,she wants equal time in class for creationism...how about equal time for the teaching of evolution in Sunday school?..or else you lose your tax exempt status?

FWIW, I'm against government teaching anyone.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Bodhi on September 03, 2008, 08:01:13 AM
Uh oh..She supports Intelligent Design being taught in schools.

"..and now kids,after biology class get ready for your creationism studies...

..after chemistry,get your books out for the Alchemy class...

..right after your astronomy period,there will be a pop quiz in astrology.."

Ok,she wants equal time in class for creationism...how about equal time for the teaching of evolution in Sunday school?..or else you lose your tax exempt status?

She wants parents to decide what their children are taught, not the state.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: lazs2 on September 03, 2008, 08:07:09 AM
I bet she is for vouchers... that would really have the teachers union toady democrats foaming at the mouth.

lazs
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hap on September 03, 2008, 09:21:55 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122039719000892745.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

"Bad, bad, bad, media -- tsk, tsk, tsk -- rants" don't go far with me.  Just not something that works me into a tizzy.

In the AM with coffee and cigs, I surf the news online.  The opening quotes of the WSJ essay captures what the newsies put up front on their websites.  Not the exact words, names, and faces, but the gist is the same.

Part of the reason is it gives them something to do.  Though McCain picking Palin is a big deal even so.  And the reaction from lefties gives the newsies something to go on about. Making a mountain out of a mole hill type of thing.  Maybe they're making a bigger mountain out of a big mountain etc.  That sort of thing.

Anyway, I liked the essay because the author started out by showing some things reporters are saying and writing.  Granted the WSJ is righty.  Doesn't invalidate the evidence.

What do you think about the author's claims: 4th estate wants to be part of the vetting process and they're chapped bit time.  Palin endangers entrenched power.  Palin is the more authentic "change" candidate.   

And the conclusion: if they lose, Palin will be a big time GOP'er in the future.  Lastly, the GOP won't allow Dem attacks to go unanswered.

A busy 60 days ahead??

Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Mojava on September 03, 2008, 09:26:02 AM
 I am  interested in hearing her speak tonight.  I'm also looking forward to the debate between her and Joe.

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September 26, 2008: Presidential debate with domestic policy focus, University of Mississippi, Oxford, MS
October 2, 2008: Vice Presidential debate, Washington University, St. Louis, MO
October 7, 2008: Presidential debate in a town hall format, Belmont University, Nashville, TN
October 15, 2008:Presidential debate with foreign policy focus, Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: avionix on September 03, 2008, 09:29:26 AM
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I bet she is for vouchers... that would really have the teachers union toady democrats foaming at the mouth.

I have seen where she does support them.  Bout time someone at national level supported them.  My parents busted their butts with two and three jobs to put my sister and I through private school.  Why shouldn't the parents have a say in where their tax dollars are going for their own children?  Dems have beatent the dead horse of public school system to death.  It is a failure and throwing more money at it is NOT the solution.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Bodhi on September 03, 2008, 09:39:11 AM
I am  interested in hearing her speak tonight.  I'm also looking forward to the debate between her and Joe.


same here.  I think she is gonna kick his butt.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: iWalrus on September 03, 2008, 10:38:07 AM
She wants parents to decide what their children are taught, not the state.

That's what home schooling is for.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Toad on September 03, 2008, 10:43:19 AM
That's what vouchers are for.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: iWalrus on September 03, 2008, 11:03:25 AM
How about just no educational tax for families of children that are home schooled or are in private schools?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Toad on September 03, 2008, 11:07:59 AM
How about if the state spends $XXXX per year to educate a child then the parents can get vouchers for that amount if they choose to educate their child elsewhere? The state is willing to spend that much to educate a child; as long as the parents choose an accredited method or institution why shouldn't they receive an equal amount?

Why shouldn't home schooled kids get money from the state for education? The state mandates that all kids be educated, right?

Still, if there were no tax levied against parents that home or alternate schooled their kids, that would work too. Eventually the loss of revenue would force the state to change their non-performing schools systems. :)
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Gunthr on September 03, 2008, 11:21:04 AM
 Judging from all the over-board howling attacks and foaming at the mouth about Palin in the blogosphere, she must be affecting the progressives in some fundemental way.  I've never seen this before...  this is a very interesting election year.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 03, 2008, 11:25:46 AM
Judging from all the over-board howling attacks and foaming at the mouth about Palin in the blogosphere, she must be affecting the progressives in some fundemental way.  I've never seen this before...  this is a very interesting election year.

Exactly. ;)
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 03, 2008, 11:34:48 AM
yup... the folks that are not voting for her; who are not in her party; want her burned at a stake.

THAT is the most significant endorsement of the election.

Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: indy007 on September 03, 2008, 11:53:36 AM
Judging from all the over-board howling attacks and foaming at the mouth about Palin in the blogosphere, she must be affecting the progressives in some fundemental way.  I've never seen this before...  this is a very interesting election year.

I'm beginning to think she was picked simply as bait to put the spotlight on some loonies and derail Obama's media train. It's certainly working out like that.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Kaw1000 on September 03, 2008, 11:56:26 AM
I said this ten minutes after she was announced as VP, they were going to
dissect her like a rat in science class.

Demodummies are looking for anything to smear her...most of these smears
are not about her at all.For example her daughter being pregnant, is this the
best smear they have?? Geezzz
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: iWalrus on September 03, 2008, 01:04:17 PM
I said this ten minutes after she was announced as VP, they were going to
dissect her like a rat in science class.

Demodummies are looking for anything to smear her...most of these smears
are not about her at all.For example her daughter being pregnant, is this the
best smear they have?? Geezzz

Wow you figured that out? Geez, you must be Kreskin or something. Who knew the media would look into the life of someone who was trying to be Vice President of the United States. You think they'll do, like, a background check or something? You know, to see if she was maybe convicted of armed robbery or something?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Yeager on September 03, 2008, 01:44:53 PM
plenty of time left here.  I predict another bombshell lobbed towards Obama before November and a few lobbed towards Biden as well......

This stuff is SOP
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: lazs2 on September 03, 2008, 02:40:02 PM
to me vouchers means that public schools get a certain amount of money to educate a kid then private schools and... parents who home school should get the same amount.   All kids in all the systems, be it public. private or home are tested to see if the taxpayers are getting their moneys worth and if the kid fails a basic learning test and is shown to have average or above intelligence... then that system.. does not get any money for that kid next year.

Of course.. if private schools got even half of what public schools got per kid..  the kids would all be rhodes scholars.

lazs
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 03, 2008, 09:03:27 PM

Of course.. if private schools got even half of what public schools got per kid..  the kids would all be rhodes scholars.

lazs

Klinton, being a rhodes scholar, kinda tarnishes the reputation of the award.

But; I get your point.

...and, I'm neither a gentleman or a scholar.

Gotta leave something for the grandkids to aspire to... ;)
   
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Casca on September 04, 2008, 11:58:45 AM
The MSM is flirting with a mainstream backlash.  They are going so over the top that it's becoming apparent to everyday Ernie.  By all means carry on.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20080904/pl_rasmussen/palinmedia20080904;_ylt=AvU.bb3dYLG5zpYlPdRqnFph24cA (http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20080904/pl_rasmussen/palinmedia20080904;_ylt=AvU.bb3dYLG5zpYlPdRqnFph24cA)

Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 04, 2008, 12:08:33 PM
Im not sure how dowding feels about the sun (as if that matters, much) but I enjoyed the write up nonetheless......

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1640770.ece

Damn....Im am excited by all this woman represents!  Sorry to the liberal bloggers and other devil supporters, but she is plain hot!

Cant wait to see how this all pans out!
she's in the pocket, you should already know this, but I think maybe you just need to get laid. :aok
I mean when you're looking at Palin as "hot"..... :rofl.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: 68Wooley on September 04, 2008, 12:47:35 PM
Once all the hullabaloo settles down, Palin's selection changes very little - to the far right, she's a gun owning, God fearing defender of their beloved 'traditional' American family values. But those people were never going to vote Dem anyway. She may rescue a few votes from independents and Libertarians though.

To the far left she's a typical right-wing religious fundamentalist nut-job who'd replace schools with bible classes and who's own family can't live up to the ridiculous moral standards she herself preaches to the rest of us. Those people were never going to vote GOP either. On the other hand, people in the middle ground who were maybe swaying towards McCain's more center-right politics might be pushed back towards Obama.

As I say little will change. Forget McCain, Palin and Biden -  in a week or two it'll all be back to where we were before the conventions: a decision to vote for, or against Barak Obama.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 12:53:07 PM
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I mean when you're looking at Palin as "hot"

She is easy on the eyes that's for sure. ;)
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: moot on September 04, 2008, 01:00:15 PM
To the far left she's a typical right-wing religious fundamentalist nut-job who'd replace schools with bible classes and who's own family can't live up to the ridiculous moral standards she herself preaches to the rest of us.
What's the tally on her family respecting what she and her husband preach?  Cause one child out of 5 is not that bad, especialy if it's just this one slip-up, and if the boy and girl both live married happily ever after.  Even more so if Obama was conceived out of marriage as seems to be the case.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: 68Wooley on September 04, 2008, 01:10:00 PM
What's the tally on her family respecting what she and her husband preach?  Cause one child out of 5 is not that bad, especialy if it's just this one slip-up, and if the boy and girl both live married happily ever after.  Even more so if Obama was conceived out of marriage as seems to be the case.

Moot - it doesn't matter. The far left are not going to let facts cloud their instantly formed views of Palin any more so than the far-right will let facts cloud their opinion of Obama.

I'm not offering an opinion on Palin, simply pointing out she'll ultimately change very little.

Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 04, 2008, 01:14:23 PM

As I say little will change. Forget McCain, Palin and Biden -  in a week or two it'll all be back to where we were before the conventions: a decision to vote for, or against Barak Obama.

Nah. In a Hollywood/reality show Election she's already eclipsed The Annoited One as a super star... he's had 2 years of hype.. she's been on the scene for 7 days and has already generated more excitement than a russian invasion.

We're in fer a heluva show.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 04, 2008, 01:38:25 PM
Are these factual quotes by Palin?  Someone tell me this is internet hogwash, please.




* I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq.


*  "Well, God bless them, and I mean God and Jesus because without Jesus we'd be Muslims too or Jewish, which would be a little better because of the superior Israeli Air Force."

*    "God made dinosaurs 4,000 years ago as ultimately flawed creatures, lizards of Satan really, so when they died and became petroleum products we, made in his perfect image, could use them in our pickup trucks, snow machines and fishing boats. Now, as to the ANWR, Todd and I often enjoying caribou hunting and one year we shot up a herd big time, I mean I personally slaughtered around 40 of them with my new, at the time, custom Austrian hunting rifle. And guess what? That caribou herd is still around and even bigger than ever. Caribou herds actually need culling, be it by rifles or wolves, or Exxon-Mobil oil rigs, they do just great!"




Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 04, 2008, 01:46:11 PM
your not tired of this crap yet, are yah skyrock?

attack politics is getting kinda wearing... how about you tell us what your team has to offer america besides more welfare, bigger government and more taxes?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Toad on September 04, 2008, 01:51:28 PM
So you would have us believe that Palin would self-incriminate on breaking game laws while running for Governor and granting an interview to the largest newspaper in the state?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Yeager on September 04, 2008, 02:04:30 PM
Are these factual quotes by Palin?  Someone tell me this is internet hogwash, please.

Do not make me bust out my "Biden said it on teh intardnet" quote builder.

Jeeze, some people  ;)
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: texasmom on September 04, 2008, 02:15:49 PM
*edited the color of my replies

Are these factual quotes by Palin?  Someone tell me this is internet hogwash, please.

* I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq.
Here's the complete quote for this one:

Alaska Business Monthly: We've lost a lot of Alaska's military members to the war in Iraq. How do you feel about sending more troops into battle, as President Bush is suggesting?

Palin: I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe. Every life lost is such a tragedy. I am very, very proud of the troops we have in Alaska, those fighting overseas for our freedoms, and the families here who are making so many sacrifices.




*  "Well, God bless them, and I mean God and Jesus because without Jesus we'd be Muslims too or Jewish, which would be a little better because of the superior Israeli Air Force."

The one & only place that quote is attributed to. Some other forum.
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=159837&page=176
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*    "God made dinosaurs 4,000 years ago as ultimately flawed creatures, lizards of Satan really, so when they died and became petroleum products we, made in his perfect image, could use them in our pickup trucks, snow machines and fishing boats. Now, as to the ANWR, Todd and I often enjoying caribou hunting and one year we shot up a herd big time, I mean I personally slaughtered around 40 of them with my new, at the time, custom Austrian hunting rifle. And guess what? That caribou herd is still around and even bigger than ever. Caribou herds actually need culling, be it by rifles or wolves, or Exxon-Mobil oil rigs, they do just great!"


Note the disclaimer at the beginning of the blurb:

Sep. 2, 2008 ( delivered by Newstex) -- The following Sarah Palin quotes either come from the 2006 Alaska gubernatorial campaign. Or TUBOB's fertile imagination. You decide.Topic: On oil exploration and drilling in the ANWR:God made dinosaurs 4,000 years ago as ultimately flawed creatures, lizards of Satan really, so when they died and became petroleum products we, made in his perfect image, could use them in our pickup trucks, snow machines and fishing boats. Now, as to the ANWR, Todd and I often enjoying caribou hunting and one year we shot up a herd big time, I mean I personally slaughtered around 40 of them with my new, at the time, custom Austrian hunting rifle. And guess what? That caribou herd is still around and even bigger than ever. Caribou herds actually need culling, be it by rifles or wolves, or Exxon-Mobil (NYSE:XOM) oil rigs, they do just great!/TUBOB channeling Sarah Palin. . Newstex ID: SPOK-0018-27842549



Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 04, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
your not tired of this crap yet, are yah skyrock?

attack politics is getting kinda wearing... how about you tell us what your team has to offer america besides more welfare, bigger government and more taxes?
:huh

Do you know me?

I can't stand either of them.

I will vote for one of them if (I don't have any other choices), so I want to find out all I can about them.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 04, 2008, 03:04:35 PM
*edited the color of my replies

thx, got those from a Dem friend and was at school and couldnt thoroughly check. :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 04, 2008, 03:27:39 PM
:huh

Do you know me?

I can't stand either of them.

I will vote for one of them if (I don't have any other choices), so I want to find out all I can about them.

I know what you've been posting... attack after attack after attack on Palin, McCain and the republi-rats.

...now you offer the 'I can't stand either of 'em' dodge when pinned.

Which kinda blows any credibility you might of thought you had... since there's not one similar attack you've posted on the Dumophlap ticket.

So, again; since your obviously pro-dummycraat, what do you have to offer from that side that indicates there's any redeeming policy offered by them that doesn't involve, tax, spend and socialism?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: crockett on September 04, 2008, 03:34:25 PM
Judging from all the over-board howling attacks and foaming at the mouth about Palin in the blogosphere, she must be affecting the progressives in some fundemental way.  I've never seen this before...  this is a very interesting election year.

lol you miss all the right wing conservative attacks on Obama? It's pretty much the same thing just Palin is the target now..


Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: RedTop on September 04, 2008, 04:08:53 PM
lol you miss all the right wing conservative attacks on Obama? It's pretty much the same thing just Palin is the target now..




Never saw the "rightwing" attack Obama about one of his daughters....
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: 68Wooley on September 04, 2008, 04:16:40 PM
Never saw the "rightwing" attack Obama about one of his daughters....

This 'holier than thou' attitude is stupid. If Obama's daughters were a bit older and one of them was - gasp - pregnant out of wedlock - they would have been all over it like a rash. Each side is as bad as each other.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 04, 2008, 04:42:22 PM
I know what you've been posting... attack after attack after attack on Palin



quote one attack on Palin from me besides me saying she's in the pocket which I believe to be true of all high ranking politicians from both parties.


Just so you'll know, I hate republicans, democrats, and extremist, in no particular order.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: AKIron on September 04, 2008, 04:47:06 PM
Today Chuck’s pick-up truck has a bumper sticker reading “Vegetarian — Old Indian Word For Bad Hunter”.

 :lol
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 05:19:19 PM
*edited the color of my replies


Good work Mom.  :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 04, 2008, 06:31:42 PM
This 'holier than thou' attitude is stupid. If Obama's daughters were a bit older and one of them was - gasp - pregnant out of wedlock - they would have been all over it like a rash. Each side is as bad as each other.

Really?  There's a good chance that the daughter would not want to be punished for her mistake and would have had an abortion (secretly).
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: 68Wooley on September 04, 2008, 06:48:30 PM
Really?  There's a good chance that the daughter would not want to be punished for her mistake and would have had an abortion (secretly).

You're dodging the issue. If Obama had a five month pregnant 17 year old unmarried daughter, the Republicans would have torn him - and her - apart over it. They would have behaved with no more morals than the Dems have over Palin's daughter.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Motherland on September 04, 2008, 06:55:58 PM
Really?  There's a good chance that the daughter would not want to be punished for her mistake and would have had an abortion (secretly).
It's amazing that you can criticize Obama's family on a decision they did not even make.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 06:56:53 PM
You're dodging the issue. If Obama had a five month pregnant 17 year old unmarried daughter, the Republicans would have torn him - and her - apart over it. They would have behaved with no more morals than the Dems have over Palin's daughter.

Until this election presidential candidates kids for the most part have been left out of the media, and rightfully so.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 06:57:52 PM
It's amazing that you can criticize Obama's family on a decision they did not even make.

I think he is basing that on Obama's statement about how if his daughters make a mistake he doesn't want them punished with a baby.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: crockett on September 04, 2008, 07:21:54 PM
Never saw the "rightwing" attack Obama about one of his daughters....

Yea know what... you can blame Palin and her daughter for that.. Number one.. it was Palin's daughter who didn't practice what her mom preaches. Number 2.. Palin knew damn well that her teenage daughter was pregnant and she knew damn well the media would rip her apart for it. Palin knowingly threw her own daughter under the bus to further her own political career.

He she was that worried about her own daughter she wouldn't have accepted the job. When she accepted the job she put her own daughter in the spot light.

Oh and as I posted before John McCain openly attacked Chelsea Clinton while she was a still a minor, ironically I think she was also 17 at the time. So don't give that crap about the right wing being above this because they would be eating Obama alive if it were reversed.

Same thing the Right wing openly attacked John Kerry's military record then whine and cry if McCain's is attacked.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
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Palin knowingly threw her own daughter under the bus to further her own political career.

Oh please!

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When she accepted the job she put her own daughter in the spot light.

The press put her daughter in the spotlight. The press (and you) have made a mountain out of nothing.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: crockett on September 04, 2008, 07:27:03 PM
Oh please!

The press put her daughter in the spotlight. The press (and you) have made a mountain out of nothing.

No Palin put her daughter in the spot light by accepting the nomination.. No one would haven even heard that girls name if her mom wasn't running for vice president. She knew going in her family would be in the spotlight. Every president's family is in the spot light.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: crockett on September 04, 2008, 07:28:54 PM
Until this election presidential candidates kids for the most part have been left out of the media, and rightfully so.

BS...

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

-- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 04, 2008, 07:34:37 PM
BS...

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

-- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.


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presidential candidates kids for the most part

BS

1998 was not a presidential election campaign year, and "for the most part" does not mean always
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 04, 2008, 07:34:47 PM
BS...

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

-- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.


I haven't seen much to prove or disprove that... either way.

Is Janet willing to submit to a paternity test?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: bj229r on September 04, 2008, 07:48:25 PM
lol you miss all the right wing conservative attacks on Obama? It's pretty much the same thing just Palin is the target now..



Alas, the 'right wing' is only a radio and internet community, on the OTHER hand, the 'LEFT WING' is comprised of the New York Times (4 hit pieces on front page)...NBC, CBS, ABC.... I can see how one might think they were equal
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: RedTop on September 04, 2008, 08:01:50 PM
Yea know what... you can blame Palin and her daughter for that.. Number one.. it was Palin's daughter who didn't practice what her mom preaches. Number 2.. Palin knew damn well that her teenage daughter was pregnant and she knew damn well the media would rip her apart for it. Palin knowingly threw her own daughter under the bus to further her own political career.

He she was that worried about her own daughter she wouldn't have accepted the job. When she accepted the job she put her own daughter in the spot light.

Oh and as I posted before John McCain openly attacked Chelsea Clinton while she was a still a minor, ironically I think she was also 17 at the time. So don't give that crap about the right wing being above this because they would be eating Obama alive if it were reversed.

Same thing the Right wing openly attacked John Kerry's military record then whine and cry if McCain's is attacked.

Man you are one goofy dude....

Palin didnt throw her daughter under the bus...your thinking that she did is no more than an excuse to excuse pure liberal media slamming not only in mainstream media but all over the blogs and internet.

McCain did say that....hmmm...let me see...is calling someone ugly as bad as slamming a 17 year old for being preggers and the mom of that 17 year old because she is prolife? Not even on the same level and you know it...your fishing.

And Kerry couldn't hold John McCains jock when it comes to service of country....Kerry isn't even CLOSE to McCain. Talk about that Biden 5 time defermant deal.

Palin accepted the job because she thinks she can do it....Obama even came out agaisnt the slamming of that 17 year  old as did Biden....but don't let your GODS words sway you this time....your like therest of the left wing loonies...blood in the water...kill the kid and feed her to us.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 04, 2008, 08:24:00 PM
I haven't seen much to prove or disprove that... either way.

Is Janet willing to submit to a paternity test?
I still don't see quotes of me attacking, and attacking, and attacking palen.  Did you get lost?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 04, 2008, 08:35:30 PM
I still don't see quotes of me attacking, and attacking, and attacking palen.  Did you get lost?

Yup.

I humbly apologize. I had my 'Das Muppets' confused. While I was trying to figure out how to go about getting my hoof outta my mouth I ran across this post:

I dont like McCain, Can't stand Hillary, not a big fan of O'bama, but I do like Biden actually.  The Dems are about as smart as a decorative yard rock, they just sit there and act like their looks will get them elected.  The Hillary thingy has totally ruined this convention for them, and serves them right in my opinion.  I don't want someone elected just because their the new flavor on the ice cream truck, I want them to have good beliefs and ideas(have yet to hear a description on anything O'bama believes, and disagree with McCain on plenty of his ideas). 
So for many of us this election year is a no win situation. :(

Well said. And again my apologies... damn muppets. ;)

<S!>

Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 04, 2008, 08:37:07 PM
Yup.

I humbly apologize. I had my 'Das Muppets' confused. While I was trying to figure out how to go about getting my hoof outta my mouth I ran across this post:

Well said. And again my apologies... damn muppets. ;)

<S!>


:salute



PS   I hate lobbyists also!  :devil
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 10:10:59 PM
BS

1998 was not a presidential election campaign year, and "for the most part" does not mean always

Thanks, I was busy watching McCain's speech.  :)
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 10:23:47 PM
Quote
Palin accepted the job because she thinks she can do it....Obama even came out agaisnt the slamming of that 17 year  old as did Biden....but don't let your GODS words sway you this time....your like therest of the left wing loonies...blood in the water...kill the kid and feed her to us.

Obama called for his own party and his campaign staff to leave her alone, why can't you Crockett? Truth is, you don't want to actually look at what each person in this Presidential race stands for so much as you want to dig up dirt, real or perceived, on Governor Palin.

As we each take our walk through life, we all have successes, but we also make mistakes. What is far more important than the mistakes themselves, is how we respond to those mistakes. In this particular case, this young lady has responded to her mistake by choosing to marry the young man that is the father of her baby. While I do not condone the premarital sex that lead to this mistake I do applaud her for her response to that mistake. She could have chosen abortion and killed that unborn child, instead she has accepted responsibility for her actions and is preparing to raise that child with it's father.  :rock
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: moot on September 04, 2008, 10:30:59 PM
lol you miss all the right wing conservative attacks on Obama? It's pretty much the same thing just Palin is the target now..



Yeah, two wrongs definitely make a right.  Let's keep the mud slinging at full blast, something good's got to come out of it!
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: 68Wooley on September 05, 2008, 01:25:44 AM
Obama called for his own party and his campaign staff to leave her alone, why can't you Crockett? Truth is, you don't want to actually look at what each person in this Presidential race stands for so much as you want to dig up dirt, real or perceived, on Governor Palin.

As we each take our walk through life, we all have successes, but we also make mistakes. What is far more important than the mistakes themselves, is how we respond to those mistakes. In this particular case, this young lady has responded to her mistake by choosing to marry the young man that is the father of her baby. While I do not condone the premarital sex that lead to this mistake I do applaud her for her response to that mistake. She could have chosen abortion and killed that unborn child, instead she has accepted responsibility for her actions and is preparing to raise that child with it's father.  :rock

Elfie - in general I agree with you. It would be a real temptation for her to take the 'easy' way out and abort so fair play to her for accepting the consequences of her actions and trying to do the right thing.

The one thing that would concern me though is whether the only reason the two kids are getting married is the child. If, as in my own parents case, an unplanned child has simply hastened them towards marriage then great, but if they had no plans or desires to get married then - for me - its better to have a child with unmarried parents then raise a child in an unhappy marriage. Both parents can contribute to the child's upbringing without being married. If, at some point in the future, they decided to get married, great, but I'd hate to think they were being pressured in to it.

Of course, we do not know, nor do we have any right to know, what the truth is.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 01:48:07 AM
Elfie - in general I agree with you. It would be a real temptation for her to take the 'easy' way out and abort so fair play to her for accepting the consequences of her actions and trying to do the right thing.

The one thing that would concern me though is whether the only reason the two kids are getting married is the child. If, as in my own parents case, an unplanned child has simply hastened them towards marriage then great, but if they had no plans or desires to get married then - for me - its better to have a child with unmarried parents then raise a child in an unhappy marriage. Both parents can contribute to the child's upbringing without being married. If, at some point in the future, they decided to get married, great, but I'd hate to think they were being pressured in to it.

Of course, we do not know, nor do we have any right to know, what the truth is.
wow, can we say breath of fresh honesty?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Getback on September 05, 2008, 05:26:05 AM
Today Chuck’s pick-up truck has a bumper sticker reading “Vegetarian — Old Indian Word For Bad Hunter”.

 :lol

 :rofl :rofl Yeah I read that.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 05, 2008, 06:01:00 AM
Elfie - in general I agree with you. It would be a real temptation for her to take the 'easy' way out and abort so fair play to her for accepting the consequences of her actions and trying to do the right thing.

The one thing that would concern me though is whether the only reason the two kids are getting married is the child. If, as in my own parents case, an unplanned child has simply hastened them towards marriage then great, but if they had no plans or desires to get married then - for me - its better to have a child with unmarried parents then raise a child in an unhappy marriage. Both parents can contribute to the child's upbringing without being married. If, at some point in the future, they decided to get married, great, but I'd hate to think they were being pressured in to it.

Of course, we do not know, nor do we have any right to know, what the truth is.

There is a link I posted in another thread that deals with this. Her boyfriends mother had stated there was no pressure to get married, they were already planning on doing so. However, that is the only information I have seen on that issue. The kids and the Palins (parents) are keeping quiet. I have no problem with that, because as you said, we have no right to know.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 05, 2008, 06:14:18 AM
wow, can we say breath of fresh honesty?


Of course, we do not know, nor do we have any right to know, what the truth is.

To that, yes.  :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 07:52:12 AM
To that, yes.  :aok
you are very smaht :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: lazs2 on September 05, 2008, 08:03:06 AM
wooley.. people get married for a lot of reasons including deep "love"..  it doesn't always work out when it starts with the best of reasons and it doesn't always go bad when it is for the worst of reasons... in general.. with a 50% or higher divorce rate..  I would say the reasons rarely matter.

as for why crock-it going all soundbite mad dog/attack dog on palin even tho his messiah has called for his "people to stop"

The messiah absolutely knows that the media and drones like crock-it are in his pocket and will do all the work for him while he can sit back and pretend to be sensitive and PC.

Typical liberal crap.   They love everyone and are sensitive to everyones feelings..  so long as you agree with them..

That is what "bringing us together" under a blue country means...   if coming togehter means I have to be anything like them (and it does to them)  then...   we are gonna have to have a brawl.

lazs
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Jackal1 on September 05, 2008, 08:21:21 AM
If Osamabama just had one white glove and could moonwalk he would be much more believable.
How in the hell can someone look at this cat and listen to the nothingness that comes from that pie hole and say to themselves...."Yep, he`s the one I want for the president of my country"?
Flatliners. Gotta love em.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: lazs2 on September 05, 2008, 08:37:56 AM
jackal.. one of my exes new husbands gave the guy money..  he is a retired white guy who has been in a public utility union job all his life and actually wept at osamabamas speech..  he is a total bore to be around and everyone avoids him at any function I have been where he and I are at.

It is amazing to watch the guy.. he had no depth at all.. weeping is not depth in my opinion... watching the golf channel is not depth.   Talking to him you realize that he has never really given anything any real thought.   He says computers are not toys.. they are to do your finances on and read newspapers.

he bought a new car after running the last one..  a silver honda.. for a couple hundred thousand miles.. he bought a silver honda.    The comment on my Healey was that it will be nice once I "restore" it.. the comment on my el camino was.. "it is very loud isn't it?"

lazs
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: crockett on September 05, 2008, 09:23:19 AM
Obama called for his own party and his campaign staff to leave her alone, why can't you Crockett? Truth is, you don't want to actually look at what each person in this Presidential race stands for so much as you want to dig up dirt, real or perceived, on Governor Palin.

As we each take our walk through life, we all have successes, but we also make mistakes. What is far more important than the mistakes themselves, is how we respond to those mistakes. In this particular case, this young lady has responded to her mistake by choosing to marry the young man that is the father of her baby. While I do not condone the premarital sex that lead to this mistake I do applaud her for her response to that mistake. She could have chosen abortion and killed that unborn child, instead she has accepted responsibility for her actions and is preparing to raise that child with it's father.  :rock

Because I'm not in his party or on his campaign staff, I'm a registared independant but I'll more than likely vote for Obama.. You guys have non stop bashed Obama on this board for months on top of months.. To the point even people not involved in the political debates were calling it the "Obama Club". Yet now you guys can't seem to take the same bashing to your own candidate.

It's either.. oh.. hands off cause she's a woman.. or hands off because McCain's a war hero.. Well guess what you guys have dished it out for months doing everything from claiming Obama isn't a citizen to calling him a Muslim terrorist. Like they say if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 05, 2008, 09:37:06 AM
Because I'm not in his party or on his campaign staff, I'm a registared independant but I'll more than likely vote for Obama.. You guys have non stop bashed Obama on this board for months on top of months.. To the point even people not involved in the political debates were calling it the "Obama Club". Yet now you guys can't seem to take the same bashing to your own candidate.

It's either.. oh.. hands off cause she's a woman.. or hands off because McCain's a war hero.. Well guess what you guys have dished it out for months doing everything from claiming Obama isn't a citizen to calling him a Muslim terrorist. Like they say if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

Reading posts from you is like getting a new joke of the day in email.

Thanks for the laughs!
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: crockett on September 05, 2008, 09:47:29 AM
Reading posts from you is like getting a new joke of the day in email.

Thanks for the laughs!


Like I said you guys are all real happy to bash Obama day and night but cry like 2 year olds soon as we bash your candidate. I suspect there will be lots of crying from you guys come November and the 4 years afterwards..  :rofl
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: texasmom on September 05, 2008, 09:47:43 AM
Neither one of the candidates on the Republican ticket are hands off.  And besides that, they both have enough gumption to take whatever is slung their way.  If they don't, they shouldn't be on the ticket in the first place.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: AKIron on September 05, 2008, 09:57:12 AM
Neither one of the candidates on the Republican ticket are hands off.  And besides that, they both have enough gumption to take whatever is slung their way.  If they don't, they shouldn't be on the ticket in the first place.

Absolutely true and they are both more than tough enough to take whatever comes their way I believe. The mud slingers are also subject to scrutiny and should be judged by the mud they sling.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 05, 2008, 10:03:30 AM
Because I'm not in his party or on his campaign staff, I'm a registared independant but I'll more than likely vote for Obama.. You guys have non stop bashed Obama on this board for months on top of months.. To the point even people not involved in the political debates were calling it the "Obama Club". Yet now you guys can't seem to take the same bashing to your own candidate.

It's either.. oh.. hands off cause she's a woman.. or hands off because McCain's a war hero.. Well guess what you guys have dished it out for months doing everything from claiming Obama isn't a citizen to calling him a Muslim terrorist. Like they say if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

You aren't putting heat on me. You are putting it on an innocent 17 yr old girl. An innocent girl that has done nothing to you. I bet it makes you feel like a big man to spew hate towards a 17 yr old from behind your keyboard eh?

I haven't been bashing Obama, I haven't even been interested in this election process until Governor Palin became involved.

I don't recall anyone here claiming Obama wasn't a citizen, we did however discuss a lawsuit that a Hillary supporter filed claiming Obama wasn't born in the US. As usual, you are off the mark on that one.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Elfie on September 05, 2008, 10:04:23 AM
Neither one of the candidates on the Republican ticket are hands off.  And besides that, they both have enough gumption to take whatever is slung their way.  If they don't, they shouldn't be on the ticket in the first place.

Very true, however, their families should be off limits.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 05, 2008, 10:06:05 AM

Like I said you guys are all real happy to bash Obama day and night but cry like 2 year olds soon as we bash your candidate. I suspect there will be lots of crying from you guys come November and the 4 years afterwards..  :rofl

That's the funny thing!

We are not crying...instead we are laughing at the rabid (yet feeble) attempts to bash this woman.

As far as the November and 4 years after thing...I look forward to your comments when Obama loses.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 10:21:18 AM
Reading posts from you is like getting a new joke of the day in email.

Thanks for the laughs!
GOnzo, err Donho, when I read your post its like reading nothing, because you stand for nothing that is you, only what yor party says you should stand for.  I have no idea from reading your posts, if you are a real human or a computer generated RNC post engine.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: texasmom on September 05, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
Very true, however, their families should be off limits.
agreed
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 05, 2008, 10:25:47 AM
GOnzo, err Donho, when I read your post its like reading nothing, because you stand for nothing that is you, only what yor party says you should stand for.  I have no idea from reading your posts, if you are a real human or a computer generated RNC post engine.

Using a SkyRock quote:

Do you know me?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 10:27:41 AM
Using a SkyRock quote:

Do you know me?
I thought my post was spot on.  Is it?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Toad on September 05, 2008, 10:28:53 AM
That's the funny thing!

We are not crying...instead we are laughing at the rabid (yet feeble) attempts to bash this woman.

+1

Damn, the libbies squeeling like little piggies is hilarious!
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 05, 2008, 10:32:31 AM
I thought my post was spot on.  Is it?

Once again avoiding the question.

It's funny that when assumptions are made about you and what you stand for, you reply with "Do you know me".  I take this to mean that the poster could have no way of truly knowing you or what you stand for.  

Yet when I invoke the same response to your assuming post about me, you reply with a "SkyRock knows better" post.  

The word narcissism comes to mind.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 10:48:37 AM
Once again avoiding the question.

It's funny that when assumptions are made about you and what you stand for, you reply with "Do you know me".  I take this to mean that the poster could have no way of truly knowing you or what you stand for.  

Yet when I invoke the same response to your assuming post about me, you reply with a "SkyRock knows better" post.  

The word narcissism comes to mind.
misquote.  I have never typed that on these boards.  I simply posted a response to get you to step out of your box, and I guess it worked.  :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 05, 2008, 10:51:09 AM
misquote.  I have never typed that on these boards.  I simply posted a response to get you to step out of your box, and I guess it worked.  :aok

Which is the misquote?  The "Do you know me?" or the "Skyrock know better"?
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 10:55:39 AM
Which is the misquote?  The "Do you know me?" or the "Skyrock know better"?
You tell me, you quoted them.  I mean you do know which one was made up in your mind or which one was my actual quote, right? :aok

The "do you now me" is usually only posted to people whom I have never communicated with at all, that posts things like they know me.  Just so you'll know. :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 05, 2008, 10:59:50 AM
...that posts things like they know me

As you did.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 05, 2008, 11:11:26 AM
it's that damn flashy das muppets badge...

;)
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 11:39:16 AM
As you did.
stop dodging the question.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Donzo on September 05, 2008, 11:49:23 AM
stop dodging the question.

Ok.

No, your post was not spot on.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 05, 2008, 11:54:12 AM
So das muppets is the AH squad for the mentally challenged? :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: Hangtime on September 05, 2008, 12:03:59 PM
gawd, i hope not... but that damn flashing muppets tag led me to answer a skyrock post, thinking he wuz cockitte.

Stuffed my hoof in my mouth with that one.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 12:08:17 PM
Ok.

No, your post was not spot on.
thanks. 






 :noid
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 12:10:15 PM
So is there any room for me on the ankles of das muppets?
no
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 05, 2008, 12:14:26 PM
no

Oh thats clever and cute, you made a funny little quote edit.


I would pat you on the head, but your helmet is in the way.  :rofl
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 12:17:33 PM



I would pat you on the head, but your helmet is in the way. 

that's not a helmet, and that is the wrong head.  Be gone anklesludge.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 05, 2008, 12:26:43 PM
that's not a helmet, and that is the wrong head.  Be gone anklesludge.

Those types of fantasies are really not a good idea to share around here chief. Kids and all.

I don’t swing that way either, but the offer was flattering.
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 12:28:29 PM
Those types of fantasies are really not a good idea to share around here chief. Kids and all.

I don’t swing that way either, but the offer was flattering.

offer?  sounds like you do have a fantasy.  At any rate, get off my ankle. :aok
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 05, 2008, 12:36:54 PM
offer?  sounds like you do have a fantasy.  At any rate, get off my ankle. :aok

Hey you're the one bringing all this stuff up buddy, and you know its not your ankle on your mind.  I knew you would be the "chick".  :rofl
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 12:40:16 PM
Hey you're the one bringing all this stuff up buddy,
down here it is not manly to call another man, "buddy".   I have brought nothing up with you.

wheres a bottle of anklehumper-be-gone when you need one? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 05, 2008, 12:47:34 PM
down here it is not manly to call another man, "buddy".   I have brought nothing up with you.

wheres a bottle of anklehumper-be-gone when you need one? :rolleyes:

Buddy, who said I was talking to a man? I keep hearing sqeaks, men dont make those noises.

Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 12:52:11 PM
men dont make those noises.


  thats way too much info on your private life.

spell check -squeak!
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 05, 2008, 12:57:12 PM
  thats way too much info on your private life.

spell check -squeak!

Squeak, sqeek whatever. You know what you are.  ;)
Title: Re: The Media and Sarah Palin
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 02:13:25 PM
Squeak, sqeek
hmm from this quote, you actually fit your own description. :devil