General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wolf on March 29, 2024, 04:00:30 PM
Title: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Wolf on March 29, 2024, 04:00:30 PM
Im sorry but this ridiculous. Apparently several members of the Damned squad have multiple accounts. I'm not accusing them of cheating, as I've never seen them use them to spy. But my problem is their squad uses those accounts to switch sides purely to find dogfights, then they switch back to another country if a bigger fight ends up on another front.
It's bad enough that you have Skyrr with his magic energy-generating moves and judge with his laser-beam aim. And it's horrible enough that they wing together in the same squad with other skilled pilots like themselves. Its as much fun as dying repeatedly can be anyways. But now they switch to whatever side and furball wherever without any regard for anything else.
You cant predict where they will be, unlike other players that have 1 account. You have to constantly refresh the player roster. And if by the grace of God you land a hit on one of them or shoot them down, you know you're about to certainly die many times over as their squad hunts you down.
According to something said on 200, Judge and Skyrr already have almost 4000 kills between themselves this tour. Im sure this has nothing to do with accounts :rolleyes:
Is this type of gameplay allowed? Could someone clarify.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: mERv on March 29, 2024, 04:29:30 PM
Dale has explicitly said that if you can't find a fight or have high eny to switch countries. Due to the limitations of side switch times your only option is to pay for other accounts. That is 100% allowed and encouraged by HTC. The rule is you are not allowed to have multiple accounts on different countries logged in at the same time.
Your issue... your gripe.... this is dumb. You can throw shade at the damned all you guys want but your issue is with Dale's decision on this. If you don't think this is fair why don't you try it? Come to the promised land and enjoy all the luxuries of having more than 1 account in AH :cheers:
Also you can just shoot them down no matter what account they are on :aok
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: ZE on March 29, 2024, 05:06:55 PM
Wolf, I understand your concerns, but that's allowed in the game. Like mErv said, you can't be in different countries at the same time. Regarding the number of kills, - even though I'm not an expert - I believe they are just good pilots, working together many times; I have engaged them several times ( almost every time I die ), watched the movies and can't observed - with my limited expertise - any abnormal behavior of their planes or shots, which forces me to review my combat skills, be more careful and learn. :salute
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Kermit de frog on March 29, 2024, 05:45:56 PM
Wolf, many of us know what bad behavior looks like. Thank you for raising awareness.
Also, do your best to not get caught up in useless arguments, as some may talk with positivity, it can come from nefarious or even naive points of view.
Some folks just try to cause trouble, and hide behind phrases such as looking to dogfight. You'll know it when you see it.
<S>
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: fudgums on March 29, 2024, 07:56:00 PM
Actually started watching more ACM videos around the web to get better after going against them the last few weeks. At least they want to fight and won't run.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 29, 2024, 09:14:26 PM
Well....I certainly don't believe that members of a squad should be allowed to have multiple accounts for all 3 sides and allowed to usurp time switch rules by switching back and forth between accounts and countries within minutes. It really defeats the strategy aspect to the war. It promotes spying, unfair situational awareness, and used to target players by being able to track them no matter where they fight. Imagine how crappy the game would be if all squads did this. I don't believe it should be allowed.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on March 29, 2024, 10:01:34 PM
I was actually surprised over the years at how many people have multiple accounts. I think there are many more then are admitted to. I've heard of guys running strat runs on one country from both of the other countries or report on country channel where the enemies CV groups are and such. It never bothered me as my style of play wasn't affected by this stuff for the most part.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on March 30, 2024, 06:23:37 AM
Actually started watching more ACM videos around the web to get better after going against them the last few weeks. At least they want to fight and won't run.
This..
And if their multiple accounts help HT keep the lights on that much longer I am all for it
I am cheap as I have never had more than one account lol
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: popeye on March 30, 2024, 07:47:06 AM
Dale has explicitly said that if you can't find a fight or have high eny to switch countries. Due to the limitations of side switch times your only option is to pay for other accounts. That is 100% allowed and encouraged by HTC.
So, for $14.95 you can reduce the side switch time to 3 hours, and for $29.90 you can reduce it to 2 hours. How much for unlimited ammo? :D
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Vraciu on March 30, 2024, 12:27:48 PM
So, the six hour side switch is just a marketing tool?
Just look at it as one of those "pay to upgrade" type thing. Pay and extra $15 a month and you dont have a switch time.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on March 30, 2024, 05:34:09 PM
Yeh. Those leopards and their spots.. Can't see that being abused in any way what so ever nuh-uh no-ser-ee.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on March 30, 2024, 06:21:36 PM
Yeah, multiple accounts can be abused for sure. Imagine that you have two accounts named "Dolby" and "Plume," for example. Completely random and hypothetical, of course.
The reason we started using multiple accounts originally was because we have a large squad and we constantly change countries. We received constant cheating and spying allegations (many came from Violator and Simon) accusing of us reporting locations of players when we got stuck on different sides due to our side switch timers being at various counts.
Given that the MA's fights are sporadic at best, we decided to kill two planes with one round and create additional names so that we could switch easily and not have the squad splintered across multiple countries. All of our names are readily identifiable. My callsigns are Skyyr, SkyyrII, and Rusyn; most of the other pilots in our squad use a similar format. This is so that it's obvious who we are and we can't be accused of shading. It also makes it readily apparent that we aren't logging onto accounts concurrently.
That said, none of our individual accounts are ever concurrently logged in. If anyone can send me a screenshot of an individual logged in under multiple accounts on different countries at the same time, I'll kick them out of the squad personally.
It shouldn't be a conversation topic anyway because many squads in the MA commonly get split on separate sides and could easily cheat/spy/etc.
Personally, I think this thread is likely just an attempt to explain away one's subpar performance, but you people do you.
<S>
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on March 30, 2024, 06:26:08 PM
I never made any excuses for my subpar performance...
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: fudgums on March 30, 2024, 08:04:50 PM
Personally, I think this thread is likely just an attempt to explain away one's subpar performance, but you people do you.
It seems more obvious to me that they are concerned about a level playing field, no? "Subpar performance" - performance is surely your dogma. Is it possible others disagree with playing Aces High solely for that purpose?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on March 31, 2024, 12:19:01 PM
Yeah, multiple accounts can be abused for sure. Imagine that you have two accounts named "Dolby" and "Plume," for example. Completely random and hypothetical, of course.
Not random or hypothetical, nice try. Though it allows me to ease your mental anguish; I have never paid for 2 accounts at the same time.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on March 31, 2024, 12:25:11 PM
So it's not the fact that you have multiple accounts that's an issue, it's just how you use them? Odd, because that's what I said.
I noticed you died a lot last time you flew. Better luck next time <S>
Yes indeed, usage is very important, those accounts should all be on the same side to prevent some nefarious actions past delinquents have been found guilty and even banned for.
I also landed 8 victories in one La7 sortie with no re-arm last time I flew. Nice try <S>
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LilMak on March 31, 2024, 12:54:46 PM
Imagine an addict gets caught stealing. After a long time they’re forgiven for stealing. They start “borrowing” money and insist it isn’t “stealing”. Then they act like you’re the stupid one for being skeptical.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on March 31, 2024, 02:13:15 PM
Imagine thinking anyone in this thread was banned for multiple accounts. That alone proves you're clueless as to what actually happened. There's even a video of what happened and it had absolutely nothing to do with anyone here using multiple accounts.
It's kind of like the time Dolby got Twitch sniped and then claimed he was being tracked with multiple accounts, while being oblivious to the fact he was broadcasting his location to everyone live on Twitch.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on March 31, 2024, 02:20:49 PM
I think the Mossie is one of the most underrated by ENY numbers of planes in the game. I flew it alot and other then chasing something down going 500 it was pretty good at everything else. I got pretty good at HOs too cause I didn't try to duck a HO from anybody that tried.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on March 31, 2024, 02:23:42 PM
Yes indeed, usage is very important, those accounts should all be on the same side to prevent some nefarious actions past delinquents have been found guilty and even banned for.
I also landed 8 victories in one La7 sortie with no re-arm last time I flew. Nice try <S>
You must have been cheating. I find it hard to believe one ammo load of those Russian cannons could down 8 planes. Maybe 4 of them were proxies? :bolt:
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on March 31, 2024, 02:32:55 PM
It's kind of like the time Dolby got Twitch sniped and then claimed he was being tracked with multiple accounts, while being oblivious to the fact he was broadcasting his location to everyone live on Twitch.
One Stream sniping incident (and currently proudly displayed by you on a Russian tube site) does not account for all other incidents or the incidents perpetrated towards other people.
Imagine an addict gets caught stealing. After a long time they’re forgiven for stealing. They start “borrowing” money and insist it isn’t “stealing”. Then they act like you’re the stupid one for being skeptical.
You must have been cheating. I find it hard to believe one ammo load of those Russian cannons could down 8 planes. Maybe 4 of them were proxies? :bolt:
I don't have any film to check, I only grabbed this; https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,409152.0.html
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on March 31, 2024, 02:38:09 PM
Nice. Here's 23. I've got a 27 kill run somewhere.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on March 31, 2024, 02:52:32 PM
I was referring to the ammo load. I couldn't ever get more then a kill or 2 in the C202 but your gunnery seems much better then mine.
I'm not sure dueling with me would be much fun. I haven't played in a while so I'm really rusty and I wasn't very good when I did play lol
The ammo load isn't the problem, it's gunnery. You can do 10 kills without reloading in almost every plane that isn't primarily .303s.
Players just waste way too much ammo trying to hit the target instead of taking the shots that are guaranteed. It takes very little ammo to kill an aircraft. It only takes 3-6 20mm to down an aircraft, or about 100 MG rounds.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on March 31, 2024, 03:31:20 PM
Do you think you could get 10 kills in a C202 without rearming? That would be cool to see.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on March 31, 2024, 03:48:10 PM
Don't think it helps bring new blood into ah..probably the opposite
Eagler
I'm not sure what videos got posted in this thread that stated someone sucked. Certainly none of mine.
In fact; the last video that got posted at all to my channel was because someone else challenged me to the DA and they said I sucked. Ironic, I know. But then again, it was 99capera soooo. He even chose the planes lol.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on March 31, 2024, 03:49:42 PM
Do you think you could get 10 kills in a C202 without rearming? That would be cool to see.
Heh. I got seven one night in a 202. But I think almost all of them were proxies. Ran into a squad flying P-40s, probably for the first time they'd done so. Very few things trigger greed like the sight of a lone 202 at low altitude. They were blowing up all around me.
Having said that, I flew against Skyyr in the DA a few years ago, both of us flying 202s, and he handily defeated me every time. You can criticize him for various qualities, but his skill is unquestionable.
- oldman
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on March 31, 2024, 06:52:27 PM
I think the 202 flys well. I just couldn't get anything other then assists when I used to fly it from time to time.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Lazerr on March 31, 2024, 06:52:47 PM
Im sorry but this ridiculous. Apparently several members of the Damned squad have multiple accounts. I'm not accusing them of cheating, as I've never seen them use them to spy. But my problem is their squad uses those accounts to switch sides purely to find dogfights, then they switch back to another country if a bigger fight ends up on another front.
It's bad enough that you have Skyrr with his magic energy-generating moves and judge with his laser-beam aim. And it's horrible enough that they wing together in the same squad with other skilled pilots like themselves. Its as much fun as dying repeatedly can be anyways. But now they switch to whatever side and furball wherever without any regard for anything else.
You cant predict where they will be, unlike other players that have 1 account. You have to constantly refresh the player roster. And if by the grace of God you land a hit on one of them or shoot them down, you know you're about to certainly die many times over as their squad hunts you down.
According to something said on 200, Judge and Skyrr already have almost 4000 kills between themselves this tour. Im sure this has nothing to do with accounts :rolleyes:
Is this type of gameplay allowed? Could someone clarify.
Seeing how the biggest complaint with the guys gunning for the fight and anti hoarding love to side switch but are faced with 6 hours I find to be a comparable solution. While I might not wanna pay they can and do.
More often than not you can be in the. Idle of a good fight numbers hangs then are stuck on a no fight front
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: scott66 on April 01, 2024, 04:02:19 AM
I've watched skyyr on his you tube live stream for more hours than I'm willing to admit.. at first I was sus but skyyrll and skyyr same planes diff styles like diff personalities skyyrll is all about the quick fight action action action when the fight ends he nose dives and ditches it in a corn field instead of wasting time flying back to base even with kills..skyyr account is more about stats kills ranking more careful about landing kills and the fights he engages in... can it be abused.. yes but not from what I seen so far.. not a big fan of the 200 chat but he can fly.. now FT that dude tonight WF 2 diff bases same time while fighting and killing defenders from both bases at the exact same time lol that dude is on another level he's awesome just ask him lol all in fun <S> or maybe I just need to switch to decaf
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: DmonSlyr on April 01, 2024, 06:48:21 AM
To me, there is simply no difference in having 2-3 accounts logged in at the same time, being on different teams, than having 3 accounts and logging in one team, then minutes later switch to another, then minutes later switch to the 3rd team. And if your squads on the other team and you chat over discord and ask them anyway, what difference does it make? It's just abusing the side switch rules and not good from a war strategy aspect when one squad knows what all three sides are doing. Especially when you don't want to engage with a player or you need to defend a field, but they switch sides and continue to engage you while their squadmates are still on your team. I don't think that is good for the game at all. Hitech may get an extra $15 but Is it really worth the integrity of the game? The folks leaving because of this may equal out the extra accounts, or fall even more so.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 01, 2024, 08:05:13 AM
I'm not sure what videos got posted in this thread that stated someone sucked. Certainly none of mine.
In fact; the last video that got posted at all to my channel was because someone else challenged me to the DA and they said I sucked. Ironic, I know. But then again, it was 99capera soooo. He even chose the planes lol.
Are you saying you don't insult your opponents in your yt videos?
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on April 01, 2024, 08:25:47 AM
C202 might be a little extreme. 109e or spit5 would be a little more attainable.
Leviathon (Levi) of The Blue Knights once posted a film of a base defense sortie, in which he flew a Spit 5 and downed at least a dozen hordlings...back around 2005. He was equally proficient in anything he flew, as was his squaddie, Drex.
A few players are just THAT good. I'm not one of them. :D
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 01, 2024, 08:39:15 AM
One would not know what was exchanged in game when watching a ah yt video...
They just see you spank them then state what a crap pilot he is...
5 min mark on the cap99 video is an example of this..
Your yt input would be more beneficial for the game if you were more humble online with a more tutorial like video like vuduVince put out on his day
<S>
Eagler
Before the duel, I was flying in the MA. Dazycutr was in a D9 (or so I thought). I killed him and then later referenced he was in a D9. He said he wasn't. I said I would check the stats page (plane type kills) and confirm, as one of us was mistaken. On that note, I actually was mistaken, but that's irrelevant at this point.
99capera, for some unknown reason, jumped in and commented: "your life that shallow... you need AH stats to feel good." I guess the mention of the word "stats" bothered him, despite not actually being about stats nor capera being part of the conversation.
What followed was 99capera going on a typing rampage, unprovoked, entering the conversation between Dazycutr and myself. I'm not sure why he felt the need to do so, but he left lovely comments such as:
99capera: "Duel me" 99capera: "Pzzy" 99capera: "I'll shut you up" 99capera: "Skyrr, you are the definition of a loser."
I went to the DA and let him pick the planes. He picked the Seafire, a plane I never fly. He quit in under 3 minutes.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 01, 2024, 09:13:15 AM
Again..yt viewers don't know or care about your back story...
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 01, 2024, 09:59:56 AM
Just look at it as one of those "pay to upgrade" type thing. Pay and extra $15 a month and you dont have a switch time.
Agreed. However, keeping all accounts on one side is very clear. When one changes sides a few times per day they should expect rightful suspicion. It is kinda pushing the limits on expecting the masses to believe innocence, even when it is. Its a pick your poison wisely type of thing. >IMO<
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 01, 2024, 10:50:43 AM
Show me a single opponent I've "insulted" that didn't insult me (or worse) beforehand and I'll pay for their sub for a year. I'll wait.
I just sat scrolling through your YT films looking for someone who I believe wouldn't have insulted you on 200 first, and the free year sub candidates are;
I just sat scrolling through your YT films looking for someone who I believe wouldn't have insulted you on 200 first, and the free year sub candidates are;
Unfortunately for you, there's no duels uploaded of most of those players. Further, we're talking about duels where there was a degree of insult. Simply having a film of someone doesn't qualify. I know, hard to comprehend for you.
There's one of Chuikov, but the description states exactly why that duel is uploaded. There's one of gman as well - I've got the links to his posts off-forum as to why those fights were uploaded.
Thanks for the views though! Players like you are the reason my channel is the #1 AH channel on YouTube. <S>
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: flippz on April 01, 2024, 11:13:50 AM
To me, there is simply no difference in having 2-3 accounts logged in at the same time, being on different teams, than having 3 accounts and logging in one team, then minutes later switch to another, then minutes later switch to the 3rd team. And if your squads on the other team and you chat over discord and ask them anyway, what difference does it make? It's just abusing the side switch rules and not good from a war strategy aspect when one squad knows what all three sides are doing. Especially when you don't want to engage with a player or you need to defend a field, but they switch sides and continue to engage you while their squamates are still on your team. I don't think that is good for the game at all. Hitech may get an extra $15 but Is it really worth the integrity of the game? The folks leaving because of this may equal out the extra accounts, or fall even more so.
ok, first why is it ok for the owner/operator of the game to the leave the game in a stale dead fish state? there have been no updates to address the singular issue that some (most) complain about, NUMBERS LEFT IN THE GAME. so its ok i pay $15 a month to get in a game and have an air combat fight but yet be stuck on a front with absolute 0 air fights for 6 hours. for most players that is their entire day of flying. the fights in here can change very quickly from front to front. we asked in the wish thread, we have emailed hitek several times (with no return email). we listened to every one in here cry like a bunch of 5 yr old kindergarteners when we didnt have 2nd accts and we with stood the lying accusations of us teaming from different sides because we were stuck on different fronts for x amount of times that were never proven. now we spend our money to try to stay in a fight for the duration of the day and more times than not all on the same front and yall cry. its seems to me there is a vast majority that dont want competion in here, ie the early morning horde that got to where when we showed up on the front they were rolling bases they would switch fronts leaving us with nothing but miraculous 88 shooters and wirbs to shoot out. well guess what they cant do that now. also the EVERY NIGHT 2 SIDE GANG cant just up and dominate a country thats fighting both sides, and it seems there are a lot score padders that do the complaining then. not a single time any one of you can say you have seen our accts logged in to 2 diffrent countries at once, not one can say we have swapped countries to kill a m3 or c47 going into a white flagged town of country we were not on. not one person can say we changed countries to hit a cv that was at a base take location...there are a few auto side switchers that gets those claim rather often. now we need to ask our selfs as a community, are we crying because some guys are circumventing the time switch rule (thats outdated by about 15 yrs) to find fights or are we crying as a community because the score padders and horde monglers cant run free hiding behind the time switch rule to gain their own achievement? what we need to be doing is flooding hitek with phone calls and emails to get the game up to date with the numbers with things like the side switch timer down to 2 hrs and getting the eny for the am crew upped. and heres a really huge stretch maybe some maps that are smaller and fewer gv spawns. now like skyyr said show one instance of us breaking the rules and hurting the game.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: nrshida on April 01, 2024, 11:16:42 AM
I don't believe Skyyr has ever insulted me to be fair. He's been very civilised towards me although I have been critical several times (also via PM). That was just a random film from a day of really good fights we had in the MA and I learned a piece of ACM from my loss so more than a fair exchange. :banana:
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 01, 2024, 11:33:54 AM
Unfortunately for you, there's no duels uploaded of most of those players. Further, we're talking about duels where there was a degree of insult. Simply having a film of someone doesn't qualify. I know, hard to comprehend for you.
There's one of Chuikov, but the description states exactly why that duel is uploaded. There's one of gman as well - I've got the links to his posts off-forum as to why those fights were uploaded.
The initial line of questioning stated "yt videos" and "opponents" not Duels specifically. So it appears my reading comprehension is fine, so you may have some accounts to pay for.
Thanks for the views though! Players like you are the reason my channel is the #1 AH channel on YouTube. <S>
I scrolled down a list of your films I didn't view a single one.
You're #1? :headscratch: I thought VuduVince was, he has a lot of views, no? What arbitrary nonsense are you going to put in place to disqualify his YT channel?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: scott66 on April 01, 2024, 11:50:11 AM
Vudu15 was the king of training films he explains step by step all the rest are more posting good fights some are more look at me but you can learn something from all of them... not me tho ignorance is bliss.. been practicing bad flying habits for 21 years now almost got them down! As far as the game.. as long as hi-tech leaves the lights on I'm happy I would miss you egomaniacs if he closed the doors
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on April 01, 2024, 11:59:24 AM
The initial line of questioning stated "yt videos" and "opponents" not Duels specifically. So it appears my reading comprehension is fine, so you may have some accounts to pay for.
Reading comprehension requires context. You'd also need to provide 1) proof of me insulting them and 2) proof that they didn't insult first. Keep flopping around though.
You're #1? :headscratch: I thought VuduVince was, he has a lot of views, no? What arbitrary nonsense are you going to put in place to disqualify his YT channel?
It might be complicated for someone like you to understand, but current #1 isn't about lifetime views. It's about current views, rankings, and suggestions. When you haven't released any new content in almost half a decade, it shouldn't surprise you that someone stops ranking for said game.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: ZE on April 01, 2024, 12:10:20 PM
Humble opinion:
I don’t pretend to be better than anybody or be a good video maker for YT, however love this “game” for years, and it is sad that I already commented on other's post that many pilots are taking this “game” too seriously and instead of making friends and creating a camaraderie environment, created conditions that scare any possible new pilots.
I understand is almost impossible for some not to accept your skill level (or sometimes luck during combats ) and start for no reason to point the finger to other pilots, but I can see some pilots behave like kids. At the same time, I agree with others regarding YT videos with demonstration of skills, but degrading the opponents really doesn’t help this great game - already in trouble -.
ofI really enjoy YT videos and learn from them a lot, but hate the degrading situation – even justified-; since I myself was accused before to stuff that I believe is natural in a dogfight and have video of those pilots dying under the old Brew, when they make a mistake, I didn't post them on YT for the good of the game. Maybe I'm wrong guys but that is my humble opinion....
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 01, 2024, 12:17:28 PM
The initial line of questioning stated "yt videos" and "opponents" not Duels specifically. So it appears my reading comprehension is fine, so you may have some accounts to pay for.
I scrolled down a list of your films I didn't view a single one.
You're #1? :headscratch: I thought VuduVince was, he has a lot of views, no? What arbitrary nonsense are you going to put in place to disqualify his YT channel?
Really? Pot meet kettle
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 01, 2024, 12:23:29 PM
What ZE said..
<S>
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 01, 2024, 12:28:06 PM
Reading comprehension requires context. You'd also need to provide 1) proof of me insulting them and 2) proof that they didn't insult first. Keep flopping around though.
It might be complicated for someone like you to understand, but current #1 isn't about lifetime views. It's about current views, rankings, and suggestions. When you haven't released any new content in almost half a decade, it shouldn't surprise you that someone stops ranking for said game.
Ignore the drama queen. The trolling hypocrisy is a mile deep.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 01, 2024, 12:43:42 PM
Again, agreed. Gives the impression of petty masses.
Half the problem is he is accused on every landing of kills. For the most part he’s using them to debunk the countless accusations of the petty.
Both points are true.
The person above, complaining did it to shame and humiliate, and claims king of videos. He’s a projectionist. Undue drama. He did it to me for 6 months. Say ANYTHING to degrade me and others.
Skyyr doesn’t say the things to people the above does. He’s intelligent and often respectful. Never saw him call anyone degrading names. Like the above. Goes out of his way to teach what he does. He’s offered up to me and others. He’s good, he should be proud of that accomplishment.
I appreciate the humble best.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 01, 2024, 01:28:02 PM
Reading comprehension requires context. You'd also need to provide 1) proof of me insulting them and 2) proof that they didn't insult first. Keep flopping around though.
It might be complicated for someone like you to understand, but current #1 isn't about lifetime views. It's about current views, rankings, and suggestions. When you haven't released any new content in almost half a decade, it shouldn't surprise you that someone stops ranking for said game.
Just reads to me like you're trying to wriggle out of fulfilling your pledge... I guess I'll flop while you wriggle.
It's not complicated, you'll place yourself #1 even if you're not, in any category you deem important to you.
Listen cupcake, you wear that crown very well. Trolling yes, hypocrisy no.
The real reason Dolby left is because he got caught filming the Joker's taint shaving party and a threat was made on his life so he is in hiding now...
I'm just trying to figure out why? Was he planning on blackmailing them or is it a fetish to watch?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Canspec on April 01, 2024, 04:34:23 PM
I just sat scrolling through your YT films looking for someone who I believe wouldn't have insulted you on 200 first, and the free year sub candidates are;
Pipz is dead.......however his moose is still running around somewhere in the woods close to Ontario... :old:
Along with Sal....the mule.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: captain1ma on April 01, 2024, 05:13:47 PM
i have 2 accounts. do i have to get rid of one? should i? can i be trusted?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: GasTeddy on April 01, 2024, 05:23:01 PM
Are we talking about... (https://media.tenor.com/vAvZuTapVisAAAAM/discord-schizophrenia.gif)
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: RELIC on April 01, 2024, 05:26:26 PM
Wolf, I get your frustration. When I first started playing I had a rough time with the vet pilots. Thankfully back then there were plenty of other "baby seals" so I could still get some kills. Now the game is mostly populated with vets - some who fly hundreds of hours each month - and that is a tough environment. You have basically two choices (IMO) - get better, or start playing the victim card (yelling cheater, etc.). One option will be better for the life of the game and will eventually give you more enjoyment. The other - not so much. In my 20 plus years of playing I can confidently say nobody is unkillable. There are some who are at the top of their game, but they can all be shot down. Don't get discouraged - get better. Film all your flights and review what "went wrong." I have found a few of the better players in the game will go to the training arena with you - if you ask. Eventually you will start winning more fights. Good luck to you.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 01, 2024, 05:32:25 PM
Wolf, I get your frustration. When I first started playing I had a rough time with the vet pilots. Thankfully back then there were plenty of other "baby seals" so I could still get some kills. Now the game is mostly populated with vets - some who fly hundreds of hours each month - and that is a tough environment. You have basically two choices (IMO) - get better, or start playing the victim card (yelling cheater, etc.). One option will be better for the life of the game and will eventually give you more enjoyment. The other - not so much. In my 20 plus years of playing I can confidently say nobody is unkillable. There are some who are at the top of their game, but they can all be shot down. Don't get discouraged - get better. Film all your flights and review what "went wrong." I have found a few of the better players in the game will go to the training arena with you - if you ask. Eventually you will start winning more fights. Good luck to you.
I think this is good advice, however, when you are at the top of you game (as I was in AWdos days) you usually have to put in a lot of time to stay there. I noticed my timing would slip and I'd miss shots that I usually would hit if I took a few days off. While this might not be true for everyone, I know that some don't have the time to put in to stay at that level and I think it's not encouraging to give people that are just playing for fun and don't have egos the size of busses crap because of they "lack of skill" Some people just play the game for fun too.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: JimmyD3 on April 01, 2024, 05:46:47 PM
This from a fighter pilot wanna be, there is an old saying "No matter how good you are, there is always somebody better."
I agree with ZE.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 01, 2024, 06:05:16 PM
So it appears my reading comprehension is fine, so you may have some accounts to pay for.
TheJudge once called me a Soy-boy libtard for sticking up for TheStig (whose first language is not smack-talk) and complaining about his Mr. Scott-connection. I had to Google it but apparently it is an insult. Is that worth a six month subscription?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: scott66 on April 02, 2024, 12:52:18 AM
TheJudge once called me a Soy-boy libtard for sticking up for TheStig (whose first language is not smack-talk) and complaining about his Mr. Scott-connection. I had to Google it but apparently it is an insult. Is that worth a six month subscription?
plz explain the Mr Scott being an insult, asking fur a friend :rofl :cheers:
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: nrshida on April 02, 2024, 01:39:31 AM
plz explain the Mr Scott being an insult, asking fur a friend :rofl :cheers:
Warp drive.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: GasTeddy on April 02, 2024, 01:43:54 AM
Somehow I have a feeling certain multiple accounts are effecting (or are cause of) this phenomenon (https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,409107.0.html), which again materialized yesterday. Not necessarily Damned accounts, as there are others (https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,409087.0.html) as well.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Bopgun on April 02, 2024, 02:00:14 AM
That is adorably clever. Never knew TheStig to spit venom like that
No Stig didn't. Stig and I have been AH mates since I first came to the Furbal lake. He might be a Viking who could pull your head off with one hand, but he's been nothing but civilised since day one.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: mERv on April 02, 2024, 02:21:05 AM
TheJudge once called me a Soy-boy libtard for sticking up for TheStig (whose first language is not smack-talk) and complaining about his Mr. Scott-connection. I had to Google it but apparently it is an insult. Is that worth a six month subscription?
yes, it's worth it...
But only if you can create something out of nothing. Only if you can have your way at the right place and the right time. Only when your landing kills instead of being killed.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: nrshida on April 02, 2024, 03:31:42 AM
TheJudge once called me a Soy-boy libtard for sticking up for TheStig (whose first language is not smack-talk) and complaining about his Mr. Scott-connection. I had to Google it but apparently it is an insult. Is that worth a six month subscription?
This is to correct the record. I'm going to keep it simple.
1. Stig was talking trash. (Unprovoked)
2. Nothing to do with my connection.
3. He apologized after the incident.
4. Weeks later Nrshida was mad because I was killing him.
5. Nrshida goes to the forum and makes excuses. "warp drive"
6. Nrshita and Shane decide to wing up together in hopes to teach me a lesson..
7. I dispatch them both in less than 30 seconds and I make it known. "ACM gods down"
8. Nrshida loses his mind and begins to rant and rave . Thats when I called him a soy-boy (cry baby). He went on for 30 minutes about how I suck. Other players in the arena had to tell him to calm down.
Anyone else see a pattern here? Make up a story to fit their narrative in order to receive free stuff.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: nrshida on April 02, 2024, 09:18:15 AM
That's untrue. The Stig was NOT talking trash he was complaining about your picking when he was engaged in a fight. Because you were picking him. If I recall correctly his opening remark was something like: "Do you have to join every fight I'm engaged in".
Stig prefers not to argue on channel 200. I argue when forced to do so either for myself or others when it is necessary to do so and without taking pleasure in it. Doesn't change your systematic picking. For which it's fair to say you are / were famous for.
5. Nrshida goes to the forum and makes excuses. "warp drive" 2. Nothing to do with my connection.
...your connection, which allows you to (or did, maybe you've fixed it) land shots while appearing way further behind on your opponent's game end than you actually are.
6. Nrshita and Shane decide to wing up together in hopes to teach me a lesson..
Just a typo there I'm sure and not some passive-aggressive insult which may get me a free subscription. That's untrue, purely incidentally upping from the same inner base at Tank Town.
7. I dispatch them both in less than 30 seconds and I make it known. "ACM gods down"
Fan of ACM. You know, as opposed to fan of score. See above - absolutely no shot at all on my end (warp drive) causing you to rant loudly about for the whole 30-minutes were you claim I was shouting into the void. How proud you were. Egotistical actually. Or even conceited.
8. Nrshida loses his mind and begins to rant and rave . Thats when I called him a soy-boy (cry baby). He went on for 30 minutes about how I suck.
Reacting to your egotistical chest-thumping about your connection-enabled 'dispatching'. I also have a right to defend myself against lies and distortions of the truth. I probably said your gameplay sucked. Maybe that it was selfish, exploitative and designed to minimize danger to your ego to the greatest possible degree, while ruining other player's gametime. I might have said you fly with a flowchart on a single post-it note next to your monitor. I might have said you run from every fight were you don't hold advantage. I may even have gone so far as to say your style of gameplay causes people to unsubscribe. Would that be fair criticism? What's the matter, can't you take any criticism at all, even if it is factually-based? Butt-hurt over an incident 2-years ago(?) and I'm the cry baby.
You're not really here for the simple pleasure of flying are you?
P.S. I drink coffee blacker than your empty soul.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Shane on April 02, 2024, 09:27:31 AM
Sorry... I don't wing with others. All I have ever done is point out your crappy lag as being beneficial for your HOing and when adjustments are made, you run or die.
Oh, and that weirdness when your enemy icon would show up on dar that was plausibly explained as being attributed to the .wingman command. This really upset you, it seemed.
This is to correct the record. I'm going to keep it simple.
1. Stig was talking trash. (Unprovoked)
2. Nothing to do with my connection.
3. He apologized after the incident.
4. Weeks later Nrshida was mad because I was killing him.
5. Nrshida goes to the forum and makes excuses. "warp drive"
6. Nrshita and Shane decide to wing up together in hopes to teach me a lesson..
7. I dispatch them both in less than 30 seconds and I make it known. "ACM gods down"
8. Nrshida loses his mind and begins to rant and rave . Thats when I called him a soy-boy (cry baby). He went on for 30 minutes about how I suck. Other players in the arena had to tell him to calm down.
Anyone else see a pattern here? Make up a story to fit their narrative in order to receive free stuff.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Judge on April 02, 2024, 09:48:57 AM
More delusional post from the peanut gallery! Boring..
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 02, 2024, 09:54:22 AM
Sorry... I don't wing with others. All I have ever done is point out your crappy lag as being beneficial for your HOing and when adjustments are made, you run or die.
Oh, and that weirdness when your enemy icon would show up on dar that was plausibly explained as being attributed to the .wingman command. This really upset you, it seemed.
So wingman command works across countries?
That would explain a bunch..
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Shane on April 02, 2024, 10:04:17 AM
It was a plausible explanation, not a confirmed one, but...
This from a fighter pilot wanna be, there is an old saying "No matter how good you are, there is always somebody better."
I agree with ZE.
Agree with you and ZE. A common saying in the real world of fighter pilots: “Hamburger is still hamburger, no matter what you wrap it in”. No amount of ego and chest thumping will ever change that.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: nrshida on April 02, 2024, 10:06:05 AM
More delusional post from the peanut gallery! Boring..
Did you consult your flowchart on the small, yellow Post-It note next to your monitor, that took you years to develop, observe that you held no advantage in this fight, and proceed immediately to initiate a shallow dive and run two sectors back to safety from this argument in the same way you fly?
Why don't you stick around and argue it out face-to-face so that everyone has had their fair say and no one is tacitly forced to accept the lies of others. There would be potentially so much more to say. That would constitute - at least - a modicum of fight on your part. You know a fight: an often unavoidable conflict in which people can actually get bloody and damaged because of things they've said and done.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Judge on April 02, 2024, 10:26:03 AM
Did you consult your flowchart on the small, yellow Post-It note next to your monitor, that took you years to develop, observe that you held no advantage in this fight, and proceed immediately to initiate a shallow dive and run two sectors back to safety from this argument in the same way you fly?
Why don't you stick around and argue it out face-to-face so that everyone has had their fair say and no one is tacitly forced to accept the lies of others. There would be potentially so much more to say. That would constitute - at least - a modicum of fight on your part. You know a fight: an often unavoidable conflict in which people can actually get bloody and damaged because of things they've said and done.
Your bark was loud but your bite wasn't vicious!!
I'm suppose to Argue with a delusional person over a game which he does not even play? What I said about you still holds true!
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 02, 2024, 11:42:48 AM
When Exactly Did Assassin's Creed Get Bad?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on April 02, 2024, 11:46:12 AM
All of this hate against Judge, claiming he can only pick, is going to end up like the Skyyr vs Muppets storyline. Judge can easily outfly pretty much anyone in the game 1v1. Hell, he'd probably have beaten almost everyone from the last 10 years if they were still playing.
If you can't beat him 1v1, then who cares if he picked you? Sounds like you people need better SA.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 02, 2024, 12:04:08 PM
I just sat scrolling through your YT films looking for someone who I believe wouldn't have insulted you on 200 first, and the free year sub candidates are;
Judge can easily outfly pretty much anyone in the game 1v1. Hell, he'd probably have beaten almost everyone from the last 10 years if they were still playing.
No, I'm simply aware of the difference between lacking skill and denying your opponent a fair chance.
Just because you routinely deny your opponents a chance doesn't mean you lack skill, which is a lesson you yourself have yet to learn. Lest you forget, you routinely criticized my flying and tried to correct me and tell me that my flying was subpar and a crutch, before you ever encountered flying against me 1v1, let alone even encountered me once in-game. How did those encounters go when we finally met?
This is the same, you simply have cognitive dissonance.
Judge would absolutely destroy most anyone currently playing in a 1v1 situation. And if you brought back every pilot from the last 10-15 years, I can only think of a handful where it might be a tossup.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 03, 2024, 02:57:57 PM
You think Judge would be anyone in any plane?
I might put my money on Yucca or TheStig if they were flying jugs.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on April 03, 2024, 02:59:38 PM
Yeah, it took me 2 or 3 deaths to learn a counter to his "hyper drive super dive" technique, nothing I'd be ashamed of; Which is exactly why I said he was an interesting fight.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on April 03, 2024, 04:15:44 PM
Yeah, it took me 2 or 3 deaths to learn a counter to his "hyper drive super dive" technique, nothing I'd be ashamed of; Which is exactly why I said he was an interesting fight.
But you died 5 times? I think you got the kills and deaths reversed. But yes, his dive is impressive!
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 03, 2024, 04:24:59 PM
But you died 5 times? I think you got the kills and deaths reversed. But yes, his dive is impressive!
Yes 3-5 I didn't reverse it.. It's much easier to learn from losses than victories..
It makes me wonder; if a low hours Dolby can go pretty much be so close of someone you so highly rate, how much I'd still spank if I put my head down and stayed around for some actual hours?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 03, 2024, 04:26:23 PM
Clearly you've never seen them fight. That question's been answered about 50 times already.
No need to be condescending I think everybody already gets that you think you're the GOAT in a cartoon plane game.
So to be clear, you're saying that Judge could beat Yucca and TheSting while Judge is flying a jug? I didn't know Judge was such an accomplished jug driver.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 03, 2024, 04:27:50 PM
So to be clear, you're saying that Judge could beat Yucca and TheSting while Judge is flying a jug? I didn't know Judge was such an accomplished jug driver.
A 109 pilot.. he'll be good in anything :old:
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 03, 2024, 04:29:35 PM
Yes 3-5 I didn't reverse it.. It's much easier to learn from losses than victories..
It makes me wonder; if a low hours Dolby can go pretty much be so close of someone you so highly rate, how much I'd still spank if I put my head down and stayed around for some actual hours?
Well you see, the stats tell a different story. You killed Judge three times while you flew a K4. He was in a D9 two of those deaths. That means he was in a D9 and lost twice to a K4, then switched to the K4. Your win/loss K4 vs K4 was .2 / 1:5.
A D9 should ALWAYS lose to a K4, even against an intermediate pilot. It's not a matter of pilot skill, it's a matter of plane capability. So once he switched to the same plane, you lost 80% of your fights. I don't see that being very promising, unfortunately.
You're welcome to come back and try though <S>
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on April 03, 2024, 04:43:48 PM
So to be clear, you're saying that Judge could beat Yucca and TheSting while Judge is flying a jug? I didn't know Judge was such an accomplished jug driver.
And that's what you don't get: energy is energy. Same plane vs same plane is far easier than asymmetrical fights, because it boils down to ACM and energy management. Most of the duels I've won, I've never even flown the plane before.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Bopgun on April 03, 2024, 04:59:59 PM
Can people just go to the DA instead of speculating on a forum???
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 03, 2024, 05:08:50 PM
Well you see, the stats tell a different story. You killed Judge three times while you flew a K4. He was in a D9 two of those deaths. That means he was in a D9 and lost twice to a K4, then switched to the K4. Your win/loss K4 vs K4 was .2 / 1:5.
A D9 should ALWAYS lose to a K4, even against an intermediate pilot. It's not a matter of pilot skill, it's a matter of plane capability. So once he switched to the same plane, you lost 80% of your fights. I don't see that being very promising, unfortunately.
You're welcome to come back and try though <S>
I'm not sure how embarrassed Judge will be feeling knowing you've got your tongue at such length up his rectal passageway when the stats only show an outcome, not showing so many variables of an arena fight; You're assuming they were all 1v1, while I and he will know otherwise, which is why stats just aren't enough for you to make a remotely accurate assertion.. Though, it was the same night I popped your Ertus shade, so maybe you do know otherwise.
Maybe I will come back and try, though it won't be at my own expense. :salute
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on April 03, 2024, 05:22:06 PM
I'm not sure how embarrassed Judge will be feeling knowing you've got your tongue at such length up his rectal passageway when the stats only show an outcome, not showing so many variables of an arena fight; You're assuming they were all 1v1, while I and he will know otherwise, which is why stats just aren't enough for you to make a remotely accurate assertion.. Though, it was the same night I popped your Ertus shade, so maybe you do know otherwise.
Maybe I will come back and try, though it won't be at my own expense. :salute
I wasn't Ertus. That said, it's kind of odd to brag about "popping" them, given you lost 75% of your fights against them. Feel free to pull the stats, because I just did.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 03, 2024, 05:33:02 PM
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 03, 2024, 05:36:09 PM
I think I'm weird. I don't think I've ever checked stats. I don't mind going charging in to a fight I'm pretty sure I'm gonna lose to see how well I can do. (maybe that's one of the reasons I've never checked my stats lol)
To me the high flyin pick and run fighting would bore me to death, however it seems very popular.
Some of the most fun I've had in fights was on the deck. One I recall was me in a d9 vs a 51d and another one was on the deck in something that I forgot vs a spit and a ki84. I think the reason I found them fun was because I won and I didn't really think that I would in both situations.
I never was that good but I did have fun :)
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Banshee7 on April 03, 2024, 05:41:01 PM
Can people just go to the DA instead of speculating on a forum???
Nope. A lot of players have a bigger bark than they do bite, and they know it. Most of the time I talk smack to someone and invite them to the DA, we wind up being friends. Those that accept the challenges earn a lot more respect with me than those who just want to talk. Skyyr and I talked about that not too long ago (after he :ahand). No one duels anymore.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 03, 2024, 06:34:41 PM
Well, anyone who looks at my “score” (what is that?) would think this poor fella sucks.
Yet I’ve killed every one of them but Dolby, because he wasn’t around as Dolby. I’ll have to check if I killed his shade Plume, very possible. I’ll have him on my list too.
That makes me the bestest cartoon game pilot to have ever walked on earth. I’ll be signing autographs after my fights tonight,…err um deaths.
You can all thank me later.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 04, 2024, 01:32:43 AM
Well, anyone who looks at my “score” (what is that?) would think this poor fella sucks.
Yet I’ve killed every one of them but Dolby, because he wasn’t around as Dolby. I’ll have to check if I killed his shade Plume, very possible. I’ll have him on my list too.
That makes me the bestest cartoon game pilot to have ever walked on earth. I’ll be signing autographs after my fights tonight,…err um deaths.
You can all thank me later.
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: nrshida on April 04, 2024, 10:43:47 AM
Eaay, look for the fella who can put a 30-mm up your tailpipe at 600-yards fairly reliably regardless of angle. Maybe that's me. Maybe it isn't. Keep looking.
Actually I didn't, but yeah this comment just about sums you up. You is gangsta init mate. No one messes with you or your posse or they get what's coming to them. You really are just that simple. I'm utterly uninterested in your childishness and hope you will never address me again, child.
============================ Let's draw a line under TheJudge here. Preferably forever ============================
This is the same, you simply have cognitive dissonance.
Judge would absolutely destroy most anyone currently playing in a 1v1 situation. And if you brought back every pilot from the last 10-15 years, I can only think of a handful where it might be a tossup.
Get real mate. When this game is gone, Judge will not be remembered as one of the best sticks. He'll be remembered for the most part for being a picker and a runner <- terms held and invented by this community and part of it and its gameplay and its history. You can't reframe that no matter how hard you click your heels together.
I think this smells of an internet-scampster's bait-and-switch scheme. Presumably you make outrageous and unsubstantiated claims about Judge's legendary flying, then anyone objects a duel is demanding before you quietly log into his account to shut the objector up and big-up your friend with no way for ordinary players to detect otherwise. This would be in absolute accord with your other behaviour. Yes indeed, not one of us could see that coming because we're all stupid AH players, you know the people you've had nothing but conceited distain for since the day you arrived.
Franlky I expected better from you to insult my intelligence like that. How disappointing.
before you ever encountered flying against me 1v1, let alone even encountered me once in-game. How did those encounters go when we finally met?
Oh you mean shut up, you have nothing to contribute because you beat me more times than I beat you so everything I say is bull, and everything you say is God's own testament. Absolute hogwash mate. Don't wee on my back and tell me it's raining.
I think it's time you got real. Now I'm going to confront you with a skeleton.
First and foremost: Here's my perception of our encounters: we've met four times online, the last before Christmas after you'd been officially unbanned and were spending quite a bit of time in the MPA. "Brilliant" I thought to myself, after a long drought a competent stick who can really push you and you can have great fights with. I resubscribed precisely because of that. I had been flying my Ki-84 and wanted to get deeper into the 109 so used the next three days or so duelling against you while you flew anything you liked. A great time of experimentation and enjoyment for me win or lose (as normal). No doubt you kept score, I kept another score and I thank you for those engagements. Probably the swan song of AH for me.
Previously we met years ago when you were flying as Rusyn and me only Ki-84 with me doped to the eyeballs with nervous-system medication because of a spinal injury. That's where that film emerged where I attack you with a missing cannon and you kill me. I thought that was a great move actually. So great I knicked it. Maybe you did too, that's how it goes. I think you think I needed to have a film uploaded to give me a little tap of your superiority. So here is the first instance Dolby is right. Although you never called names (I think you think that's beneath you) it was in your own way a passive-aggressive insult to upload that film. Just as you've done with others.
So the third encounter is the closest we've ever come to a formal duel even though it was ad hoc (mark that) and right before you were unbanned where I was not messing around.
A few days before our friendly duelling sessions I was flying as kr1ck3t and you were flying as Ertus.
I wasn't Ertus. That said, it's kind of odd to brag about "popping" them, given you lost 75% of your fights against them. Feel free to pull the stats, because I just did.
Yes you were. And I'll evidence it. You recently went to Ukraine and Turkey you said. Publicly you said this on the forum. I got the impression you were getting married which isn't relevant to AH except for this point:-
I invite anyone to scroll down the comments of the following two of your videos:
In both of those videos are comments from a lady with a Turkish name: Jiyan Ertuş. Anyone can translate the Turkish and it's pretty clear she was your fiancee. Which is genuinenly nice for you. You should have some children. That'll help you pull your head out of you arse. Trust me.
Before you go claiming creepy, these are public comments on public YouTube videos. You know the ones you have used with decent regularity to try and humiliate anyone who has crossed you, criticised you, whatevs. so I think that's fair evidence. I hope some people look and verify what I've said before you arrange to have the comments removed (which you will). Don't matter anyway, I've made screenshots. Which I can upload on request or provocation.
You claiming you weren't Ertus, a player who flies exactly like you, energy-conservative merging, turning the engine of in the vert and shooting exactly like you and using your (presumably) wife's maiden name was not you proves Dolby was right about you for a second time: Anything showing you in a bad light gets disappeared.
You see I didn't keep score. Initially I recall I was winning, then you started to turn things your way and get the better of me and I had to conceed the technique was better. So while duelling I started to observe your techniaue, emulate it and started to use it against you and beat you, convincinly enough that it would be embarrassing. Perhaps I remembered it inaccurately. In which case you may admit you were lying and upload the whole duelling session.
One thing I have never understood about the more competitive Americans is the assertion that it's because you're awesome. To mind mind it's just a technique. Leverage doesn't work because you're awesome, it works because of leverage. For all your conceit and self-promoting squawking like a cockrell in the yard, you are not invincible or unbeatable. You have found some effective techniques with one purpose and one purpose only: to allow your ego to expand unchecked. A player who carries his in-game 'achievements' in his signature. All the former players you think you own.
Well look down. THAT is staying in my signature unless you upload the whole kr1ck3t versus Ertus film, unedited, from the first couple of sorties were you were using an LA7 right to the end marked by my second <Salute> Ertus AND it shows a clean loss on my part. Hurry up too. At this rate I give you to the summer before you're permabanned again. Because you just can't help yourself.
Two can play at this game, mate. Here: pass your tongue along this line ------------------------ that's what defeat taste like. Makes folk like you curl up. Me, just another of life's flavours.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Shuffler on April 04, 2024, 10:59:38 AM
I feel sorry for the folks who make the DA out to be for grudge matches and chest thumping. They miss out on so much. It is a great place to have some fun fights, win or lose.... doesn't matter. Just great practice. Just check your pride and bravado in at the door. Have fun. I have gone in there and flown loosely, not firing a shot.... simply to help someone get better and gain confidence. It's not always about yourself.
This is not pointed at anyone posting here. This applies to everyone, me included.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: ZE on April 04, 2024, 11:29:23 AM
I feel sorry for the folks who make the DA out to be for grudge matches and chest thumping. They miss out on so much. It is a great place to have some fun fights, win or lose.... doesn't matter. Just great practice. Just check your pride and bravado in at the door. Have fun. I have gone in there and flown loosely, not firing a shot.... simply to help someone get better and gain confidence. It's not always about yourself.
This is not pointed at anyone posting here. This applies to everyone, me included.
:salute :salute
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: waystin2 on April 04, 2024, 11:39:27 AM
I feel sorry for the folks who make the DA out to be for grudge matches and chest thumping. They miss out on so much. It is a great place to have some fun fights, win or lose.... doesn't matter. Just great practice. Just check your pride and bravado in at the door. Have fun. I have gone in there and flown loosely, not firing a shot.... simply to help someone get better and gain confidence. It's not always about yourself.
This is not pointed at anyone posting here. This applies to everyone, me included.
Truth. That is what the DA always was from my early days. At some point it became an e-peen contest. :aok
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Banshee7 on April 04, 2024, 12:16:36 PM
I feel sorry for the folks who make the DA out to be for grudge matches and chest thumping. They miss out on so much. It is a great place to have some fun fights, win or lose.... doesn't matter. Just great practice. Just check your pride and bravado in at the door. Have fun. I have gone in there and flown loosely, not firing a shot.... simply to help someone get better and gain confidence. It's not always about yourself.
This is not pointed at anyone posting here. This applies to everyone, me included.
The DA is the best training tool that we currently have. TCH and I go in there a lot. Xacherof and I dueled for 15-20 minutes just for fun/practice yesterday. It's a great place to try new planes, new techniques, different loadouts, etc... where you can actually take damage and see your results.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: nrshida on April 04, 2024, 12:19:32 PM
...and as predicted the comments from Ms. Ertus have been removed. You do realise that's absolute confirmation that you were Ertus. Utterly predictable and even said so. Smoking gun. And worse. I know things you don't know. I wasn't the only person to see that. AND I have screenshots. Oh yes, I imagine The NEW Damned Discord is pretty busy about now. :rofl
Alright we'll do it this way then. I'll upload the screenshots and you can shout at the void claiming I made it up in Photoshop. Good luck with that. Would you like me to pixelate the young lady's face for you? I would extend even you that courtesy.
Look at my signature and BURN. :banana:
Dolby, you absolutely called it on the destruction of evidence. I salute you sir :D
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 04, 2024, 12:31:13 PM
Some great screen grabs I made
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I watched
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:airplane: :kiss: :aok
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I enjoyed watching it until the end
Colour me impressed, 7/10 face easy... And from his voice I had always thought Skyyr was into the menfolk. Double :salute :salute from me. Get in there you stud! I'm happy for you, in a genuinely RL outside of man-child-AH3ery honest fashion.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Ertus on April 04, 2024, 12:32:23 PM
Well look down. THAT is staying in my signature unless you upload the whole kr1ck3t versus Ertus film, unedited, from the first couple of sorties were you were using an LA7 right to the end marked by my second <Salute> Ertus AND it shows a clean loss on my part. Hurry up too. At this rate I give you to the summer before you're permabanned again. Because you just can't help yourself.
I'm not who you accuse me of being. However, you most certainly did lose our duels. I'm still available in the Matchplay arena from time-to-time, if you'd like a rematch, nrshida.
I believe the final score was 24-17.
Good attempt!
Here's the film: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t2952zg5lS8NHWHzVlBLsoUs6UNB3CJ3/view?usp=drivesdk
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 04, 2024, 12:37:42 PM
I'm not who you accuse me of being. However, you most certainly did lose our duels. I'm still available in the Matchplay arena from time-to-time, if you'd like a rematch, nrshida.
Get real mate. When this game is gone, Judge will not be remembered as one of the best sticks. He'll be remembered for the most part for being a picker and a runner <- terms held and invented by this community and part of it and its gameplay and its history. You can't reframe that no matter how hard you click your heels together.
I think this smells of an internet-scampster's bait-and-switch scheme. Presumably you make outrageous and unsubstantiated claims about Judge's legendary flying, then anyone objects a duel is demanding before you quietly log into his account to shut the objector up and big-up your friend with no way for ordinary players to detect otherwise. This would be in absolute accord with your other behaviour. Yes indeed, not one of us could see that coming because we're all stupid AH players, you know the people you've had nothing but conceited distain for since the day you arrived.
Franlky I expected better from you to insult my intelligence like that. How disappointing.
Except that I've NEVER logged into another player's account. Once again, you make a ludicrous, completely unfounded statement. Now that you're called on it, we'll wait for inevitable backpeddle.
Oh you mean shut up, you have nothing to contribute because you beat me more times than I beat you so everything I say is bull, and everything you say is God's own testament. Absolute hogwash mate. Don't wee on my back and tell me it's raining.
I think it's time you got real. Now I'm going to confront you with a skeleton.
First and foremost: Here's my perception of our encounters: we've met four times online, the last before Christmas after you'd been officially unbanned and were spending quite a bit of time in the MPA. "Brilliant" I thought to myself, after a long drought a competent stick who can really push you and you can have great fights with. I resubscribed precisely because of that. I had been flying my Ki-84 and wanted to get deeper into the 109 so used the next three days or so duelling against you while you flew anything you liked. A great time of experimentation and enjoyment for me win or lose (as normal). No doubt you kept score, I kept another score and I thank you for those engagements. Probably the swan song of AH for me.
Previously we met years ago when you were flying as Rusyn and me only Ki-84 with me doped to the eyeballs with nervous-system medication because of a spinal injury. That's where that film emerged where I attack you with a missing cannon and you kill me. I thought that was a great move actually. So great I knicked it. Maybe you did too, that's how it goes. I think you think I needed to have a film uploaded to give me a little tap of your superiority. So here is the first instance Dolby is right. Although you never called names (I think you think that's beneath you) it was in your own way a passive-aggressive insult to upload that film. Just as you've done with others.
Your memory has failed you and failed you miserably. Luckily, for most things, I keep fairly good records.
part 1
part 2
part 3
The first time we "met," it was as Rusyn. It wasn't once nor was it some "unfortunate" interrupted fight. We met MANY times when I flew as Rusyn. In fact, I've never uploaded any of the fights, except for that single one. You tried to gang me in the MA, along with 3-4 other pilots. You lost several times, then I decided to ask you if you wanted to fight 1v1. You agreed, but then started coming in with an altitude advantage. You still lost 17 - 6 or so. You'll have to forgive me for not having the exact number, as I'll need to go back and watch 1.4 hours of fights to get the exact number.
Nevermind, I just pulled the tour stats. 18 - 6. I was off by one.
Now what makes it so bad is that I absolutely slaughtered you in an LA-7. I then got out of the LA-7 to give you a chance, and still proceeded to win repeatedly. Films have been uploaded to my channel, but you can also pull the tour stats to confirm I'm not lying.
So the third encounter is the closest we've ever come to a formal duel even though it was ad hoc (mark that) and right before you were unbanned where I was not messing around.
A few days before our friendly duelling sessions I was flying as kr1ck3t and you were flying as Ertus.
You claiming you weren't Ertus, a player who flies exactly like you, energy-conservative merging, turning the engine of in the vert and shooting exactly like you and using your (presumably) wife's maiden name was not you proves Dolby was right about you for a second time: Anything showing you in a bad light gets disappeared.
You see I didn't keep score. Initially I recall I was winning, then you started to turn things your way and get the better of me and I had to conceed the technique was better. So while duelling I started to observe your techniaue, emulate it and started to use it against you and beat you, convincinly enough that it would be embarrassing. Perhaps I remembered it inaccurately. In which case you may admit you were lying and upload the whole duelling session.
Unfortunately for you, there's this little thing called "MatchPlay" stats. You see, it wouldn't matter who I was or was not, the stats are permanently recorded. So even if I WAS Ertus, MatchPlay stats show you losing 24-17 against Ertus as Kr1ck3t, flying the Ki-84 almost exclusively. As with everything, feel free to pull them up in the MPA. You'll find you seem to have lost to Ertus, whomever that was.
24-17. Please forgive the screenshot, since it doesn't show the names or other data in it; it simply returns the number of queried rows.
Here's the film: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t2952zg5lS8NHWHzVlBLsoUs6UNB3CJ3/view?usp=drivesdk
And that score seems to be in line with the film. Odd how that works, huh?
So no, unless you can post a film showing something other than 24 - 17, not only are you lying, you're calling the MPA stats page a lie as well.
No matter how you try to spin it, you lose your own argument. And even IF I WAS Ertus, that means you lost 1v1 to someone who hadn't flown in 5 years. That's not a general statement: If I was indeed Ertus, then that duel happened less than 6 weeks after I started flying again. Let that sink in. If I was indeed Ertus, then that means I literally hadn't touched a joystick in 5 (actually, almost 6 years) and still managed to beat you in a plane I don't fly. And I absolutely guarantee you that you have more flight time over the last 6 years than Ertus had in those 6 weeks. That's not commendable, that's embarrassing.
One thing I have never understood about the more competitive Americans is the assertion that it's because you're awesome. To mind mind it's just a technique. Leverage doesn't work because you're awesome, it works because of leverage. For all your conceit and self-promoting squawking like a cockrell in the yard, you are not invincible or unbeatable. You have found some effective techniques with one purpose and one purpose only: to allow your ego to expand unchecked. A player who carries his in-game 'achievements' in his signature. All the former players you think you own.
Perhaps you either are blind or failed basic reading. Your previous squadmates (the ones in my signature) claimed, unprovoked, that they would do nothing less than completely and utterly beat me. To quote one of them: "You wouldn't last two seconds in the DA against me..." They're now immortalized, their own words used against them.
Now, find ONE example of my saying the same. You can't and it's hilarious. You're upset that I used their own egotistical words and actions against them.
This didn't happen because I talked trash (I didn't). It wasn't because I insulted anyone. It was entirely because I wouldn't play their turnfighting games and would shoot them in the face because they were dumb enough to telegraph their intentions 2k before the merge even happened.
Perhaps you should notice the screenshots and quotes that occurred before said beatdowns: https://rutube.ru/video/b1565b69435559babb1d6b77b8b9b124/
Well look down. THAT is staying in my signature unless you upload the whole kr1ck3t versus Ertus film, unedited, from the first couple of sorties were you were using an LA7 right to the end marked by my second <Salute> Ertus AND it shows a clean loss on my part. Hurry up too. At this rate I give you to the summer before you're permabanned again. Because you just can't help yourself.
Two can play at this game, mate. Here: pass your tongue along this line ------------------------ that's what defeat taste like. Makes folk like you curl up. Me, just another of life's flavours.
Ah, so now you're relying on fallacious arguments and proof of negatives. Not only does that contradict basic logic, where's your film? So you want to claim a win without a film? That's... odd. I mean, if you flew there, then you should have film showing at least 41 fights (because the MPA stats don't lie). So you should at least have some of those. Otherwise, you're literally being a hypocrite (which is something I've observed you possess as an almost innate quality).
Not only that, but your failure to provide your own film and claims goes directly against what is otherwise established dueling bracket rules (not that you would have know those or have experience with them). It seems that Ertus has already provided the film above, so where's yours?
I'm going to do you one better: Post your film showing your wins and losses. If you can't, then I guess the proof that's about to go live is going to be pretty damning.
But let's not stop there. You've left out a few fights.
So we met as Rusyn. You lost resoundingly.
You claim I was Ertus - I wasn't; but regardless, you lost again.
But we actually did duel a few months back, as I Skyyr and you as nrshida. You lost. And lost again. And lost again.
Please see the AHF files here: Duel Set #1: https://fastupload.io/XOWMQSq4x12zU9I/file Duel Set #2: https://fastupload.io/3HXN3i0QMTdBipN/file
The first duel, you lost 21 - 3. I'm ONLY counting the same plane fights. It becomes almost 30 - 3 if I include the unfair spit vs 109 fights, so I'm excluding them for your benefit. The second duel, you lost 12 - 4... where I flew such planes as a P-40 against your 109G-14... and won. Then I flew a Brewster. If it isn't obvious I'm not even trying, well, there's not much more left. It was so lopsided I didn't even bother to record it using Shadowplay.
Wait, nevermind - I did run record for part of it. See below for the P-40 fight I referenced.
Using your own flawed accusations and claims, that's 4-0 (you claimed 3 initial fights, but then only listed 2 - I've included the 2 others).
It was a valiant attempt sir; but unfortunately for you, I keep records of everything.
DA's open if you'd like to go back and lose again.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 04, 2024, 01:05:01 PM
Not sure I understand why players are using YT vids instead of AH films.
Not only do they show the whole story, but its better views for yourselves and others to learn from, mistakes and successful tactics. Kinda kills two birds with one stone.
Maybe start a dueling thread in Films, or add to the * existing * thread.
But IMO, use AH films, not edited vids on YT.
Just a thought.
I like seeing competition, it means the “game” is working.
Ya know, most of the guys pumping chest are really ok people. Don’t make it so personal. Ya wouldn’t talk this way in person.
But then, neighborhood baseball games in a field get heated too, followed by drinks and laughs.
I’m not a competitive person, by nature. Today I fly haphazard, but if I set my mind to it I can give ya a run for your money. The only ones I like on my kill list are those who brag the most. Someone with my ranking killing them can aid in perspective. :) No one invincible.
- the village idiot
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 04, 2024, 01:21:35 PM
Not sure I understand why players are using YT vids instead of AH films.
Not only do they show the whole story, but its better views for yourselves and others to learn from, mistakes and successful tactics. Kinda kills two birds with one stone.
Maybe start a dueling thread in Films, or add to the * existing * thread.
But IMO, use AH films, not edited vids on YT.
That is a great question, and I am glad you posed such, making your stock skyrocket in my books!
I'm going to have to invoke what I call the "Reptile".
Skyyr's not beyond dirty tricks to produce a favourable outcome that adheres to "his" reality, where he is the Superhero and ultimate champion protagonist.
Just ask him for the .ahf files for that "duel" with Reptile (which were claimed as available to anyone who wanted them at the time).. Of course he never produced them nor would he want them to, because they show a Skyyr win his fights at ludicrous merge speed advantages, 50mph+ and one duel at upwards of 100mph. The amusing thing is the ones he lost he was still up by 20mph. Fairness and transparency are not the main purpose of his films, looking like he's the bestest best pilot that has ever been or ever will be are.
When Skyyr's reputation is already tainted as a propagandist, a well know truth bender, and tamperer of evidence, well, it's just passive aggressive power fantasy, bile, hubris, shade accounts and YT vids designed to berate and embarrass players that displease him.
To paraphrase zack1234, A YT film from Skyyr is essentially a hissyfit :old:
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 04, 2024, 01:57:47 PM
Wow! Fascinating read right here.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Bopgun on April 04, 2024, 02:17:03 PM
I wonder if Il2 DCS or Warthunder gets this kind of drama?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: GasTeddy on April 04, 2024, 02:30:52 PM
I wonder if Il2 DCS or Warthunder gets this kind of drama?
At least IL-2 not. There this kind of friendly chat among pals is rapidly removed.
Where does all this hatred and self-praise origin from? There are again several toxic topics. Might prescription free, over the counter Viagra sold in brown paper bags solve the problem? Or mood medication?
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 04, 2024, 02:47:52 PM
I wonder if Il2 DCS or Warthunder gets this kind of drama?
IL2 I have seen a minimal amount of trash talking and cheater accusations in the game. I haven't seen anything about my stats vs your stats. There are a couple "know it alls" but for the most part they are just ignored. I haven't seen any my stats are bigger then your stats on the IL2 forums at all. Can't speak for DCS.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 04, 2024, 03:13:54 PM
I have always thought Skyyr was Ertus all along as both fly and usually kill me in the exact same way...
His plane always has more e and lift and he doesn't miss often regardless the angle
I do appreciate he is in an A5 this tour as no late war planes with decent sticks are allowed in ma in April
:cheers:
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Bopgun on April 04, 2024, 03:16:22 PM
That is a great question, and I am glad you posed such, making your stock skyrocket in my books!
I'm going to have to invoke what I call the "Reptile".
Skyyr's not beyond dirty tricks to produce a favourable outcome that adheres to "his" reality, where he is the Superhero and ultimate champion protagonist.
Just ask him for the .ahf files for that "duel" with Reptile (which were claimed as available to anyone who wanted them at the time).. Of course he never produced them nor would he want them to, because they show a Skyyr win his fights at ludicrous merge speed advantages, 50mph+ and one duel at upwards of 100mph. The amusing thing is the ones he lost he was still up by 20mph. Fairness and transparency are not the main purpose of his films, looking like he's the bestest best pilot that has ever been or ever will be are.
When Skyyr's reputation is already tainted as a propagandist, a well know truth bender, and tamperer of evidence, well, it's just passive aggressive power fantasy, bile, hubris, shade accounts and YT vids designed to berate and embarrass players that displease him.
To paraphrase zack1234, A YT film from Skyyr is essentially a hissyfit :old:
So because Skyyr understands energy better than you he's somehow cheating because he is faster at the merge?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Get better, kid. :ahand
(I'm still waiting for you to duel me, btw. You won't. You're skeered.)
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 04, 2024, 04:52:47 PM
I have always thought Skyyr was Ertus all along as both fly and usually kill me in the exact same way...
His plane always has more e and lift and he doesn't miss often regardless the angle
I do appreciate he is in an A5 this tour as no late war planes with decent sticks are allowed in ma in April
:cheers:
Eagler
Take note of Skyyr’s sight system. He’s using a gyro main sight. The way it moves against the plane movement helps in leading. Some use a red dot, he uses a hollow circle. Combined with use of the ladder hand n hand. Once you get tuned into this system properly you may gain some advantage. The rest is ACM and E management. Its not a hack. I really don’t think he needs to. People tend to jump to conspiracies as knee jerk reaction to the unexplained.
You’re nothing to sneeze at.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 04, 2024, 04:55:49 PM
Kinda makes ya wonder if someone isn't paid to create drama.
Paid? No, planned? Could be. As soon as it gets quiet some kicks trash cans over to cause negatives in view. The pattern is becoming predictable to me.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 04, 2024, 05:03:47 PM
I wonder if Il2 DCS or Warthunder gets this kind of drama?
I’m not sure they have the same adrenaline flow. Def not DCS. The more AI, the less adrenaline >IMO<. 100% multiplayer is a different flow. Again IMO. There’s not another sim like this, issues will vary.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 04, 2024, 05:42:02 PM
Kinda makes ya wonder if someone isn't paid to create drama.
Btw, I wonder if this actually happens to bring up a certain mention of a subject about 1k - 1500 times in one year. I’m finding it hard to believe anyone could be that obsessed without something in it for them. People who had a Farrah Fawcett posters on their bedroom ceiling as a teen were probably not as obsessed. I don’t speak against once, I do at 1001.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: TryHard on April 04, 2024, 11:57:13 PM
Kinda makes ya wonder if someone isn't paid to create drama.
Definitely feels that way. Even bad publicity is still publicity.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Scoober on April 06, 2024, 03:24:01 AM
I think we sometimes forget that this game is supposed to be fun—not just when you are winning, but also when you are learning how to win. I fly with the damned and go off and fly alone when not having fun. Skyyr, TheJudge, Silent... all kill me, but if I switch sides and I try to kill them. I never really cared about the score; I just wanted to see if I was having fun trying to improve.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: nrshida on April 06, 2024, 06:11:39 AM
I think we sometimes forget that this game is supposed to be fun—not just when you are winning, but also when you are learning how to win. I fly with the damned and go off and fly alone when not having fun. Skyyr, TheJudge, Silent... all kill me, but if I switch sides and I try to kill them. I never really cared about the score; I just wanted to see if I was having fun trying to improve.
Thats a great post Scoober and I salute you for your philosophy. I don't know you or have fought you, but this makes me want to. :salute
There's more to come in the ongoing saga for those who like Soap Operas, I'm just a bit busy atm so everything must wait.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 06, 2024, 07:54:07 AM
Still too many good sticks in late war birds in ma
Getting the aces out of them and into early and mid war planes is the easiest and quickest way to improve ma game play imo
If you don't stink in planes try flying the early birds...if you do stink that explains the spit16 and la7 or d9..
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Bopgun on April 06, 2024, 08:18:22 AM
Trouble is the guys who run away in the faster late war planes. Pretty frustrating flying an early Corsair 190 or 109 and having every Yak3 and P51D turn tail and circle in their ack or wait until you’re otherwise engaged with 2 other cons. That’s been my biggest struggle with sticking to Midwar rides anyway. I’ve cheated abit
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 06, 2024, 08:24:22 AM
Trouble is the guys who run away in the faster late war planes. Pretty frustrating flying an early Corsair 190 or 109 and having every Yak3 and P51D turn tail and circle in their ack or wait until you’re otherwise engaged with 2 other cons. That’s been my biggest struggle with sticking to Midwar rides anyway. I’ve cheated abit
Yes it's a bit frustrating when good sticks load their hands flying those..sad really..I guess to lose a battle in AH is just too much for some to contemplate lol
WE have the power to change gameplay ourselves with just our plane selections but some would rather whine about it and do nothing..
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: icepac on April 06, 2024, 08:43:05 AM
Perk farming is for people who can’t succeed without late war rides.
I’d rather feed on late war planes with an early or mid war plane in the main arena.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Banshee7 on April 06, 2024, 09:06:38 AM
Still too many good sticks in late war birds in ma
Getting the aces out of them and into early and mid war planes is the easiest and quickest way to improve ma game play imo
If you don't stink in planes try flying the early birds...if you do stink that explains the spit16 and la7 or d9..
Eagler
You can change their planes, but you can’t change their styles. Had some absolutely awful fights yesterday against the rooks. Several times they had number advantage, but only engaged while in their ack or with 2-3 buddies.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: The Fugitive on April 06, 2024, 09:16:35 AM
Declaring here on the boards that "April is Midwar plane month" is like telling the world everything is on sale in your store by yelling out the front door. A small percentage of players come to the boards so word isnt going to get around.
You really want it to happen, get a message of the day posted for when they log in.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Lazerr on April 06, 2024, 09:28:40 AM
It's also like playing a first person shooter with a pistol while 95% of the other players have a machine gun and bazooka.
I change my planes by the type of gameplay that's happening around me.
Flying a slow plane and having guys take 500mph passes on you over and over just isn't fun.
Some guys in here will fly a spit16 or la7 much more aggressively than a lot of folks fly anything period.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 06, 2024, 09:28:48 AM
Declaring here on the boards that "April is Midwar plane month" is like telling the world everything is on sale in your store by yelling out the front door. A small percentage of players come to the boards so word isnt going to get around.
You really want it to happen, get a message of the day posted for when they log in.
Great idea but don't have the administration access to do that..
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Animl-AW on April 06, 2024, 09:45:37 AM
Subscriptions for sims were not new nor revolutionary under AH. AW and many other games were subscription in the mid 90s, IE AOL.
$15 = .50 cents or less per day. If you can’t afford that you better quit everything.
Subscriptions are simple and honest marketing. You get everything for a monthly fee. We have this many players we make a specific revenue this month. More predictable. Long term.
If I remember right Call of Duty was F2P in the late 80s or early 90s. Its not new. You bought a high priced CD.
Today F2P is bait and switch, a dishonest marketing. F2P as long as you spend a lot of money on every module. Which almost always is more than a sub per yr. You’re not saving money, unless you just buy 1-2 planes per yr. while on sale. Hoping you don’t do the 5th grade math.
We have this many players, but we don’t know how many modules they will buy, more unpredictable revenue. If they buy everything you have or what they want revenue freezes. Hence sales while they dev. You have to dev more to keep a pace to meet payroll and maintenance. It pleases the player, but your biz future may vary. If they stop dev fir s while dumping will happen.
Paint it any way you wish, that glitter game dumped 2k steam players in a few months. Ironically while they dev new modules, and then very buggy product.
That side of the fence is as desperate to save their investment as we are. Its a race. Except, they can do it here, we can’t do it there. “ you can’t stop me” speaks to this. They are lol that you have to deal with it. “We care about this game” but only have one talking point, theirs. Besides where else can they get away with this?
This is a slow lead up to start spamming their title “as example”. Also notice which threads they target. Anything negative, take advantage of bad light. Talk to the disgruntled, easy-in, first “I’m your buddy” they understand their pain, but here’s another option. Start name dropping. They play you as stupid leaving out key points. Thats a con. There are threads where they get mad because they thought they had a good hook setting approach and you didn’t bite, insulting ststts. They are trying to be the savior of saving their own.
Slow manipulation is the constant passive aggressive mentioning that slowly normalizes a thought you think is your own idea in the long run. This is marketing, not looking out for you.
Anyone who points this out is the enemy to the effort. They must make us look stupid. Childish insults. Defamation. The only people who attack me are former players with some form of connection with Trips. A very distinct pattern.
Trips is very calculating, an opportunist, a systematic approach. He’s NOT looking out for this game, its 100% about mentioning his in a select negative thread.
People don’t go to this extent of 1k-1500 mentions in one yr if their is not compensated in some way. He’s at it 8-10 hrs per day, 24/7. Sales.
Anything I did for a sim I was compensated, even when I didn’t ask for it. If one can show their skimming other games like AH or IL-2, you can get compensated for that. Every post/reply will turn to sales. This effort means there is something going south.
Most common things said to me through out life; 1) That sounds kinda crazy 2) (after predicted damage done) you were right.
Its not rocket science, people will go lower than you think, thats how they win. No boundaries. You play by the rules, they don’t
Its not about you, its about them. They aren’t your buddy, they aren’t suggesting things that look out for your game. They are death wish suggestions, like an interview when no dev is being done or to talk about. A snake pit for a hopeful fool.
Ya can’t say ya care about the game while they talk players into spending their money on theirs instead. “Also” is nonsense.
I expect childish of PC warrior insults to make me look stupid. They attacked my advertising videos for 6 mos, that did no harm to them, other thsn drawing players here, not there. “I want your vid to succeed, I want you to fail.”
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Skyyr on April 06, 2024, 09:45:56 AM
You guys focus and complain waaay too much about plane types. It's not the plane type, it's the players. As Banshee said, gameplay hasn't changed. In fact, some of the people agreeing to fly midwar planes just try to gang even harder now to compensate for their lack of ability. I had an entire squad run from me, solo, 3 times, in their midwar planes (yes, the people claiming they want more fun in the MA are the same players running). At one point last week, the entire squadron ran to ack from me, then try to turn and engage when I turned away from the ack.
A number of players in particular head DIRECTLY for ack the moment it's a 1v1 EVERY time, if it's an option to them. And the funny thing is, one of these players is here on the forums talking about how we should fly midwar planes and be more sporting, etc. Lol.
This is what has killed the game. No one wants to deal with players who will only engage when they have a massive advantage, but will run the moment it's remotely fair. Now multiply those cowardly players x3-5, put them in squads, and you've got what the MA has turned in to.
You can change the planes, you can't change the players.
And even if everyone flew midwar planes, it makes no objective difference. There's a fastest midwar plane, like like there's a fastest late war plane. If everyone flew midwar planes, you'd have the EXACT same problem you believe you're complaining about now: people only fly the fastest and best, etc. And then it'd be a debate about flying early war planes. It gets tiring because its never been about planes: it's the players and their lack of ability to own their own deficiencies.
And I've been in a 190A5 almost the entire tour and no, it hasn't made a difference. The same people die the same ways and make the same excuses. I'm holding a ~5:1 with almost 400 kills, 80% of them in an A5 (not bragging, just pointing out that this has nothing to do with me flying a superior plane).
I don't think I'll be playing much beyond this tour.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: LCADolby on April 06, 2024, 10:19:35 AM
Do decent sticks still have large plane varieties in the MA?
I posted 4 screenshots showing my top planes flown from some random tours I did;
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: DmonSlyr on April 06, 2024, 01:12:57 PM
Yes, flying in midwar planes where most can catch you, gang you, and run from you when you get the advantage and turn back around when you pull off makes the game a lot more challenging! That's the whole point. That's what I've been saying. You have to learn new tactics and understand SA more advanced. Flying the fastest planes in the game gives you a lot of advantages and for good sticks it's too easy and makes it extremely tough for less skilled players to find enjoyment in the game. That's why I stress that good sticks fly older planes. Too many predators cleaning the ecosystem isn't good for the environment.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 06, 2024, 01:25:13 PM
You guys focus and complain waaay too much about plane types. It's not the plane type, it's the players. As Banshee said, gameplay hasn't changed. In fact, some of the people agreeing to fly midwar planes just try to gang even harder now to compensate for their lack of ability. I had an entire squad run from me, solo, 3 times, in their midwar planes (yes, the people claiming they want more fun in the MA are the same players running). At one point last week, the entire squadron ran to ack from me, then try to turn and engage when I turned away from the ack.
A number of players in particular head DIRECTLY for ack the moment it's a 1v1 EVERY time, if it's an option to them. And the funny thing is, one of these players is here on the forums talking about how we should fly midwar planes and be more sporting, etc. Lol.
This is what has killed the game. No one wants to deal with players who will only engage when they have a massive advantage, but will run the moment it's remotely fair. Now multiply those cowardly players x3-5, put them in squads, and you've got what the MA has turned in to.
You can change the planes, you can't change the players.
And even if everyone flew midwar planes, it makes no objective difference. There's a fastest midwar plane, like like there's a fastest late war plane. If everyone flew midwar planes, you'd have the EXACT same problem you believe you're complaining about now: people only fly the fastest and best, etc. And then it'd be a debate about flying early war planes. It gets tiring because its never been about planes: it's the players and their lack of ability to own their own deficiencies.
And I've been in a 190A5 almost the entire tour and no, it hasn't made a difference. The same people die the same ways and make the same excuses. I'm holding a ~5:1 with almost 400 kills, 80% of them in an A5 (not bragging, just pointing out that this has nothing to do with me flying a superior plane).
I don't think I'll be playing much beyond this tour.
This makes sense. I think that somebody who picks in a 51D is gonna fly an A5 the same way. They will on engage when they have an energy state or numbers advantage and will most likely run as soon as the fight starts to look like it might be fair. If I recall correctly an A5 can build up a good amount of speed in a dive and keep it for quite a while. In this case the A5 driver could probably get back to his buddies or ack before you could catch him.
I think it makes sense that changing the plane type may not change much if the same pilots use the same tactics.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: DmonSlyr on April 06, 2024, 01:46:03 PM
This makes sense. I think that somebody who picks in a 51D is gonna fly an A5 the same way. They will on engage when they have an energy state or numbers advantage and will most likely run as soon as the fight starts to look like it might be fair. If I recall correctly an A5 can build up a good amount of speed in a dive and keep it for quite a while. In this case the A5 driver could probably get back to his buddies or ack before you could catch him.
I think it makes sense that changing the plane type may not change much if the same pilots use the same tactics.
Yes, flying in midwar planes where most can catch you, gang you, and run from you when you get the advantage and turn back around when you pull off makes the game a lot more challenging! That's the whole point. That's what I've been saying. You have to learn new tactics and understand SA more advanced. Flying the fastest planes in the game gives you a lot of advantages and for good sticks it's too easy and makes it extremely tough for less skilled players to find enjoyment in the game. That's why I stress that good sticks fly older planes. Too many predators cleaning the ecosystem isn't good for the environment.
Read what I said though. You can't always use the same tactics because your plane can't just run away when you lose the advantage unlike the top fastest planes. You have learn and practice defense ACM which is a different ACM skill to learn. It makes it tougher for the "best" to simply be able to use E and speed advantage to dictate the fight and escape if they lose advantage.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: hazmatt on April 06, 2024, 01:55:47 PM
I agree with what you said Violator. In a perfect world.
The point that I was trying to make is if I fly an A5 and only engage from over 20k and give myself a 10k hard deck at which time I run and climb back over 20k before I engage again that I don't think it would change the game play a whole lot.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Blinky on April 06, 2024, 03:03:07 PM
It's very frustrating when you fly 5-15 minutes to get a fight, then you get nothing but ack huggers and gangers. I try to never back down from a fight or only use extending as a defensive tactic, but sadly the majority don't fly that way.
I get that not everyone is careless with their score like me, but running from 1v1s or only picking in 1v3s, then running to ack when you get reversed, or making fast passes only ho'ing.. Its maddening. It makes the already broken Match Play arena much more alluring, but trying to get the majority to pull out of their ego and 1v1 you is impossible as well. It drives so many people away.
I think everyone (as in the majority) should stop worrying about what they die to, and worry about why they died. Skyyr is right, if you dont understand basic ACM (I don't myself) you CAN'T understand why you're dying, to encorporate on your mistakes. A lot of us need to go back to the basics to even understand how to learn when we die, learn from our mistakes and improve. Not screaming about inequality, or make and model differences.
P.S. If this post offends you, toughen up old-timer. :old:
just my 2 cents. :cheers:
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Max on April 06, 2024, 03:14:51 PM
.. Its maddening. It makes the already broken Match Play arena much more alluring, but trying to get the majority to pull out of their ego and 1v1 you is impossible as well. It drives so many people away.
Many folks including myself miss the hell out of the old Furball Lake DA. Would love to see it make a return and while at it, make access a stand alone lower coast sub...say $9.95 :old: I venture to say it would bring in new business, give noobs a means to get their feet wet, offer an alternative to the "run to ack picktards" and present as a segue to Melee.
my .03 cents ...adjusted for inflation
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 06, 2024, 03:41:45 PM
H2H is free to play but only 1v1 is working
If the other options worked, some good two sided fights could be setup there
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Eagler on April 06, 2024, 03:49:45 PM
Many folks including myself miss the hell out of the old Furball Lake DA. Would love to see it make a return and while at it, make access a stand alone lower coast sub...say $9.95 :old: I venture to say it would bring in new business, give noobs a means to get their feet wet, offer an alternative to the "run to ack picktards" and present as a segue to Melee.
my .03 cents ...adjusted for inflation
Wouldn't ht lose $5 a pop as we subscribed to the lower tier with more action or would that be included in the premium $15 subscription
Sounds like a great option!
:cheers:
Eagler
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: DmonSlyr on April 06, 2024, 04:56:52 PM
I agree with what you said Violator. In a perfect world.
The point that I was trying to make is if I fly an A5 and only engage from over 20k and give myself a 10k hard deck at which time I run and climb back over 20k before I engage again that I don't think it would change the game play a whole lot.
It's still going to be much tougher than a regular speedster late war due to its exceleration and top speed + climb rate. Once you dive in, other enemy planes have a much easier time diving and catching you. You will still be forced to go defensive more often than BnZing in the late war planes and you won't be able to just accelerate away after a couple of turns. Planes like 109s, spits, and P38s don't dive well so you have to be even more aware and understand the situation.
Title: Re: The Damned and Accounts
Post by: Shuffler on April 07, 2024, 11:26:37 AM