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Title: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: captain1ma on March 07, 2008, 06:42:15 AM
Are you a looking for fun, adventure and some teamwork to boot??  Join the AVA today!!! We are looking for players that Like to have fun, want the adventure of taking over a country, and know how to work together!!

Check out the AVA. They desperately need Allied players and squads. if you think you're up to the challenge. jump in and check it out!! its great fun and a good time.

dont think you're that good?? go in anyway. once you learn how to battle in AVA you will be devastating in the MA's. we've proven that!!

Sign up with the Allied side today.

please bear in mind that we frown on MA tactics such as HO'ing, vulching, tool shedding, cherry picking, alt-monkeys, etc. its a different type of game. a more civilized type of game. Be all that you can be!! Join Today!!
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: humble on March 07, 2008, 09:08:58 AM
please bear in mind that we frown on MA tactics such as HO'ing, vulching, tool shedding, cherry picking, alt-monkeys, etc. its a different type of game. a more civilized type of game.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

Anybody tell JG54 that :lol Anybody who thinks gameplay in the AvA is better is delusional IMO.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Shuffler on March 07, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
So many of these posts on the boards..... looks like AVA is having number issues.

Quote
please bear in mind that we frown on MA tactics such as HO'ing, vulching, tool shedding, cherry picking, alt-monkeys, etc. its a different type of game. a more civilized type of game. Be all that you can be!!

This line makes me wonder if captain1ma has actually flown in the AVA lately. From my experience the AVA has just become a third Late War Arena.

I hope the AVA will return to the higher standard of play that it was known for in the past.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: bongaroo on March 07, 2008, 09:21:44 AM
---edit--- this wasn't directed at shuff, but the first response.  quit beating me to the reply button shuffler!

well thanks for the encouraging comments polly prissy poopy pants.

Someone is trying to drum up support and asking for some classy people to play in a nice arena with interesting planesets and the first response is a downer.

well, I'll counter said downer.

The AvA is great if you are tired of the same old p51 vs spit16, la7, and niki fights.  Upping in a mission of allied or axis rides to fight against that planes historic enemies has something to be said for it.

also plenty of pilots with class are to be found in the AvA.  If you see someone new to the arena HOing, ramming, or vulching a field that no ones trying to capture please try to have some nice words on vox or country channel about why we would like to avoid those types of fights in the AvA.  It's not that hard for a community to attempt to show some class with a little communication and work.

the pilots without class quickly become known and find the AvA not to their liking and they can take their gamey habits back to the MA for all we care.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Shuffler on March 07, 2008, 09:23:58 AM
 :rofl

<<< From Texas where we have to be quick on the Draw!
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: MajIssue on March 07, 2008, 10:13:44 AM
There is an Axis vs Allies arena?... Where? [tounge firmly in cheek]
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :D :D :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: captain1ma on March 07, 2008, 10:48:27 AM
Please Ignore Posts 2,3,5 and 6. Join the Fun, its a great place, if given a chance. if you're not in a squad, make one. if you are, bring them with you. if you want training, JG54 will help you. Give it a try!!
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Shuffler on March 07, 2008, 11:31:17 AM
... he just asked us to ignore his own post.... oh my!
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: humble on March 07, 2008, 11:43:48 AM
Please Ignore Posts 2,3,5 and 6. Join the Fun, its a great place, if given a chance. if you're not in a squad, make one. if you are, bring them with you. if you want training, JG54 will help you. Give it a try!!

So here's a guy talking about "honor" in a squad with none and an avatar with the following...

"AKA Jaeger1
JG54 "GrunHerz"
Vulching is more fun when you're not the victim"
 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 07, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
we dont have heart... but we sure do have score :D
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 07, 2008, 12:45:47 PM
So many of these posts on the boards..... looks like AVA is having number issues.

This line makes me wonder if captain1ma has actually flown in the AVA lately. From my experience the AVA has just become a third Late War Arena.




He's usually running away from any 1v1 he encounters so you have to forgive him if he doesn't notice what's going on around him.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: stodd on March 07, 2008, 01:46:13 PM
Why is everyone picking on  captain1ma hes only trying to get more people into the AvA??
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Shuffler on March 07, 2008, 03:28:21 PM
Why is everyone picking on  captain1ma hes only trying to get more people into the AvA??

Not picking on him personally.... just talking about folks who spread as gospel what they heard as opposed to what they've seen. I do not even know cap, have not flown with him. For all I know he is a great guy and a fairly good stick. But I have seen with my own eyes what AVA has deteriorated to and I can't stand by and watch as someone boasts about a quality that is not there.

The problem is not the AVA, the problem is what it has been changed to. While there were generally less folks in there before.... the fights were much better. Now it is nothing but a LW arena with Allied/Axis planes seperated properly. It isn't even a good preparation for CT.

<S>
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Rebel on March 07, 2008, 03:37:23 PM
c'mon guys, back offa Jaeger.  He's good people, and wants both sides to be challenged.

So if ya got the moxy, come on in- it's a blast.  Had a quick duel with Republic the other night- was a lot of fun (even though I got my bellybutton kicked most royally  :eek: )

I myself will be looking to the JG54 for some guidance.  It's a great place to take your game to the next level.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: DoNKeY on March 07, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
Tried it out the first war.  Wasn't really different other then the planesets (MA's).  Just that vulching sucked even more because you heard the .303s hitting you, and you sat there rolling knowing that it was only a matter of time.  Like a slow, painful death.

donkey
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: LePaul on March 07, 2008, 09:43:30 PM
Funny how those "frowned on" tactics work great...if you are the one scoring the kill!

 :)
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Larry on March 08, 2008, 04:47:15 AM
Funny how the people bashing jaeger, JG54, and AvA dont even fly there. Think about it, they dont fly there so they dont want anyone else to eather.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Simaril on March 08, 2008, 07:10:28 AM
Larry:

I don't think its nearly that simple. When AvA went to the new format, I really tried to like it. We even had some squad nights there...but my experience was pretty close to what the other guys have said. Lots of vulching, base porking with bomb and bail, gang attacks...smaller version of the MA.

What's funny is that I was flying axis that month. Makes me shiver to think what the game play must be like with significant numbers imbalance, since all the recruiting I see calls for Allied players.

Gotta ask - -why the heck is that? One of the AvA's truly great past aspects was the way established players freely switched sides to keep the game play fun. I'd guess you're seeing the darker side of the new "team" based approach. But if so, one wonders why a squad or two wouldn't move to Allied at the end of a month.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Larry on March 08, 2008, 07:43:00 AM
Larry:

I don't think its nearly that simple. When AvA went to the new format, I really tried to like it. We even had some squad nights there...but my experience was pretty close to what the other guys have said. Lots of vulching, base porking with bomb and bail, gang attacks...smaller version of the MA.

What's funny is that I was flying axis that month. Makes me shiver to think what the game play must be like with significant numbers imbalance, since all the recruiting I see calls for Allied players.

Gotta ask - -why the heck is that? One of the AvA's truly great past aspects was the way established players freely switched sides to keep the game play fun. I'd guess you're seeing the darker side of the new "team" based approach. But if so, one wonders why a squad or two wouldn't move to Allied at the end of a month.


Its a war, the goal of which is to take bases. Of course there is going to be vulching, base porking, and ganging thats how this game is played. The numbers are good, thing is that axis pilots are more skilled in our planes because two of the biggest axis squads are JG54 and JG11. The avengers are also flying axis with us. We axis are some times out numbered 3:1 but still hold off attacks on our bases. Just last night we took some eleven bases on about two hours with even numbers. So its not we need allied pilots its we need good allied pilots or squads. We still have good 'ol CT fights when the numbers are low, but when we kick it in to gear we show no mercy to any one who thinks uping from a caped base or flying into a formation of squadies and think they are going to get a one on one.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Rebel on March 08, 2008, 08:20:02 AM

Its a war, the goal of which is to take bases. Of course there is going to be vulching, base porking, and ganging thats how this game is played. The numbers are good, thing is that axis pilots are more skilled in our planes because two of the biggest axis squads are JG54 and JG11. The avengers are also flying axis with us. We axis are some times out numbered 3:1 but still hold off attacks on our bases. Just last night we took some eleven bases on about two hours with even numbers. So its not we need allied pilots its we need good allied pilots or squads. We still have good 'ol CT fights when the numbers are low, but when we kick it in to gear we show no mercy to any one who thinks uping from a caped base or flying into a formation of squadies and think they are going to get a one on one.



The above post is rather misleading.  While they may be outnumbered 3 to 1, in an engagement, it's always another story- because they fly together.

What the allied side has now is more or less a motley crew, a mob, you could even call it a gang of unorganized pilots of fine skill.  The problem is they're not coordinated, they haven't flown with each other, nore have they haven't established tactics for the AvA.   The pilots themselves are fine skill-wise, no better or worse then the axis pilots they face.   

The biggest thing is 2 big squadrons, very experienced, and very coordinated.  If any member or either is on, they're together, and they're tactics are the same, and everyone knows everyone else.

So the end result is a slaughter.  It's not fun.  For either side.  I for one have a hard time going in because I know what the end result will eventually be.

Not anybody's fault, mind you.  I wouldn't ask the axis to lighten up, and I wouldn't try to tell the allieds how to do their job either. 

So what we need are *squadrons*.  Not individual pilots.  We need the 56th, we need the 490th, we need the Debden Boys, we need guys who can come in with coordinated numbers and make a damn difference.  As it is now, the Allieds are stuck heavy handing a half assed offensive effort while trying to hold off the onslaught.

Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Masherbrum on March 08, 2008, 08:42:42 AM
According to Storch, I'm not AvA worthy.

I popped in there on Weds. and had to leave after 3 lines of text on green.    Storch and VansCrew claiming "to be elite".    I was laughing so hard, I had to leave.   
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Simaril on March 08, 2008, 12:00:51 PM

Its a war, the goal of which is to take bases. Of course there is going to be vulching, base porking, and ganging thats how this game is played. The numbers are good, thing is that axis pilots are more skilled in our planes because two of the biggest axis squads are JG54 and JG11. The avengers are also flying axis with us. We axis are some times out numbered 3:1 but still hold off attacks on our bases. Just last night we took some eleven bases on about two hours with even numbers. So its not we need allied pilots its we need good allied pilots or squads. We still have good 'ol CT fights when the numbers are low, but when we kick it in to gear we show no mercy to any one who thinks uping from a caped base or flying into a formation of squadies and think they are going to get a one on one.

So I guess that leaves the big question unanswered: How is this different from a typical night in the MA?

(Unless you're considering the AEQ -- the "average ego quotient" -- which is apparently a bit higher)
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Bronk on March 08, 2008, 12:08:54 PM
So I guess that leaves the big question unanswered: How is this different from a typical night in the MA?

(Unless you're considering the AEQ -- the "average ego quotient" -- which is apparently a bit higher)

A bit higher he says. :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Delirium on March 08, 2008, 02:11:24 PM
Problem with the AvA is the 'big fish, small pond' attitudes, until that changes the numbers in there aren't going any higher than they are now.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Oldman731 on March 08, 2008, 02:41:11 PM
Anybody who thinks gameplay in the AvA is better is delusional IMO.

Game play in AvA is different (although perhaps not so different now as it was in the past).  You might think it's better or worse, but it is different.  One of the pleasant features of a less-populated arena is that people get to know each other, and as that happens the attitudes and behavior of many of them improve.  Those of you who tried AvA when the war first started would perhaps be surprised by how much things have changed in the intervening two months.  More people try to employ ACM.  Fewer people rely on head-on attacks.  Sometimes they can actually be pleasant to each other.  If you're there all the time you notice.  If you come in now and again, possibly you don't.

I think it was nice of Jaeger to try to clue people in that there is a lot of fun to be had in an arena that many might not know much about.  That the anti-AvA crowd would immediately jump on him was not unexpected.  Hey, AvA isn't for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with wanting to stay in the huge arenas, watching the hordes avoid each other, flying LA7s against Spit16s, evaluating the effectiveness of divebombing Lanc formations and reading the "cheater!" messages as they roll by on the text buffer.  Join a NOE mission, see if you can capture an undefended base.  Nothing wrong with that at all, and it would be wrong of me to try to talk people out of going there.

What I really don't understand is this:  where were all of you guys who miss the "old" AvA back before the "new" AvA?  I was there nearly every night, and I didn't see a lot of the faces who bemoan its absence now.

- oldman
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Urchin on March 08, 2008, 04:24:53 PM
If you are "there all the time" ... how would you know what gameplay is like in the MA to compare it to the Garden of AvA?

I've ventured in occasionally.. the only difference between the MA and the AvA is that *some* AvA players like to give the impression that they don't do 'dweeby' things like joust, vulch, milkrun, or gangbang.  Some others are honest.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: republic on March 08, 2008, 05:20:15 PM
I challenge everyone to give the AvA a try.  If you let these trolls make decisions for you...you'll never know what you are missing.

Give it a try, if you don't like it <S> and have a great day.

If you tried the war last time, give it another try.  The community has really has really matured just in the past month.  There are great fights to be had now.

Honestly...what have you got to lose from trying?

<S> to all of those with the presence of mind to know for yourself, rather than relying on the opinions of others.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Larry on March 08, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Problem with the AvA is the 'big fish, small pond' attitudes, until that changes the numbers in there aren't going any higher than they are now.


40-60 people a night is very good we jsut need more skilled allied pilots.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Oldman731 on March 08, 2008, 08:19:39 PM
If you are "there all the time" ... how would you know what gameplay is like in the MA to compare it to the Garden of AvA?

I've ventured in occasionally..
I believe you answered your own question.  I know as much about the MAs as you and the other nay-sayers know about the AvA.

- oldman
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Arlo on March 08, 2008, 10:47:08 PM
Urch was there t-night and doing a right fine job of it. I was looking forward to winging with him throughout the night. Vista and emachine are of the debil.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Oldman731 on March 09, 2008, 12:35:25 AM
Urch was there t-night and doing a right fine job of it. I was looking forward to winging with him throughout the night. Vista and emachine are of the debil.
Yup, I owe Urchin an apology.  He's been there a couple of times this week, I think.

Rest of you might try it.

- oldman
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: captain1ma on March 10, 2008, 12:43:48 PM
come on folks, Join up today, you have no clue of what your missing. its fun, its challenging, its a good time. work with people from all over. common goals and teamwork is the key!!

we encourage sportsmenship. it doesnt always happen, i wont lie to you, but we encourage it. yes sometimes you get ganged, Ho'ed etc. but for the most part its pretty clean fighting.

if you need training, JG54 will gladly help anyone, no matter what side you are on. just ask!!

please continue this thread on track. if you have something negative to say, kindly direct to me in the general forum, not in this thread. thank you for your co-operation
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Kuhn on March 10, 2008, 01:04:03 PM
Been poppin in here and there lately. depending on the time of day it seems to have some good axis pilots. I do think the allies need to get it together.  Thatl be 2 cents.   :D
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: SkyRock on March 10, 2008, 01:07:14 PM
---edit--- this wasn't directed at shuff, but the first response.  quit beating me to the reply button shuffler!

well thanks for the encouraging comments polly prissy poopy pants.

Someone is trying to drum up support and asking for some classy people to play in a nice arena with interesting planesets and the first response is a downer.

well, I'll counter said downer.

The AvA is great if you are tired of the same old p51 vs spit16, la7, and niki fights.  Upping in a mission of allied or axis rides to fight against that planes historic enemies has something to be said for it.

also plenty of pilots with class are to be found in the AvA.  If you see someone new to the arena HOing, ramming, or vulching a field that no ones trying to capture please try to have some nice words on vox or country channel about why we would like to avoid those types of fights in the AvA.  It's not that hard for a community to attempt to show some class with a little communication and work.

the pilots without class quickly become known and find the AvA not to their liking and they can take their gamey habits back to the MA for all we care.
Last 4 times I was in there, it was HO HO HO HO HO HO  rinse and repeat. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: captain1ma on March 10, 2008, 01:20:47 PM
Please, try reading folks, try the last line of this quote and pay attention please!


come on folks, Join up today, you have no clue of what your missing. its fun, its challenging, its a good time. work with people from all over. common goals and teamwork is the key!!

we encourage sportsmenship. it doesnt always happen, i wont lie to you, but we encourage it. yes sometimes you get ganged, Ho'ed etc. but for the most part its pretty clean fighting.

if you need training, JG54 will gladly help anyone, no matter what side you are on. just ask!!

please continue this thread on track. if you have something negative to say, kindly direct to me in the general forum, not in this thread. thank you for your co-operation
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: Shuffler on March 10, 2008, 02:07:01 PM
Making a thread about a thread is frowned upon. All discussions regarding this thread are better off in this thread. There are several threads on the AVA with your same issue.... shortage of players in AVA.
Title: Re: Wanted: players or squads with heart
Post by: ink on March 10, 2008, 03:30:58 PM
please bear in mind that we frown on MA tactics such as HO'ing, vulching, tool shedding, cherry picking, alt-monkeys, etc. its a different type of game. a more civilized type of game.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

Anybody tell JG54 that :lol Anybody who thinks gameplay in the AvA is better is delusional IMO.

i agree with humble i went to ava the other night  it was lame, same crap as MA watermelon talking, cuz i was in spit, i got vulched... there is no difference, that will be the last time i go to AVA.