Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: texasmom on April 24, 2008, 08:39:37 AM
-
I send my son out to get into the car this morning (intending to be a few steps behind him), and hear gun shots from right outside our home. He runs back in & locks the door (smart kid).
I go outside & see the cop who lives across the street peel off in his car (I didn't know he was a cop until this morning when he turned the lights inside of his car on. I guess he's a new neighbor, since I don't recall ever having seen him before today, either).
Then later in the morning another son calls me to bring him something at his school. As I'm walking out of his school, I hear screaming and a ton of gun shots from the surrounding neighborhood.
Further down my street, there's another cop. He was shot outside of his home a few months back. When I googled it this morning, that news article that details that particular shooting has disappeared ~ and in it's place is a news article which appears to have replaced it, omitting entirely that he's a cop... and even changes the line of events.
And even now as I'm typing this I hear more sirens. When we moved into this neighborhood just a few short years ago, this was considered to be one of the "safer" parts of town. I am soooo ready to leave our neighborhood.
-
Best wishes to you! It's calm in the good old state of NC.
I live in a small city in Stanly County, I don't think I've ever worried about gunshots here...and when I do hear them, they are around hunting session.
Take care, and keep your family safe. :salute
-
stay safe :salute
-
Hope things there are ok for you guys.
You should move to Illinois, all you have to worry about here is the rogue corn stalks that come out at night :D
-
Time for some home schooling while the danger passes..
-
i live out in farm country, i hear gun shots all the time.
-
Texas needs gun control...it sounds like it's getting out of hand.
(Paging Steve Bailey...Paging Steve Bailey) ;)
-
WOW that is crazy. We just moved into our neighborhood in Nov. of 07 and it is the nice part of town except for the dumpy apartments about 1/2 a mile up the road. We live by the highschool and by a elementary school. The thing that makes me mad living here and makes me want to move is that the speed limit on our road is 25. Most of the time you will hear a car go flying past at about 45 or 60. There are usually school kids walking up our street and the people driving dont care. The only good thing is that b/c of those dumpy apartments the cops are constantly driving up and down our street which makes me feel safe untill they leave. Then the cars are right back doing it again. I am just waiting for the time when I can get a license plate and call the cops.
-
Texas needs gun control...it sounds like it's getting out of hand.
(Paging Steve Bailey...Paging Steve Bailey) ;)
:lol :aok
-
WOW that is crazy. We just moved into our neighborhood in Nov. of 07 and it is the nice part of town except for the dumpy apartments about 1/2 a mile up the road. We live by the highschool and by a elementary school. The thing that makes me mad living here and makes me want to move is that the speed limit on our road is 25. Most of the time you will hear a car go flying past at about 45 or 60. There are usually school kids walking up our street and the people driving dont care. The only good thing is that b/c of those dumpy apartments the cops are constantly driving up and down our street which makes me feel safe untill they leave. Then the cars are right back doing it again. I am just waiting for the time when I can get a license plate and call the cops.
Get a basket ball, or socker ball and keep it on the front porch. When you hear one of those idiots screaming up the road, toss the ball out there in front of them. Make sure to hit the car. When they stop ask them how they would feel if they had hit your kid or someone elses kid if they had been chasing that ball, and they had been speeding and couldn't stop in time.
Sometimes the shock value can actually work.
-
thats a good idea off to wal mart tonight for a basketball..LOL
-
or socker ball
a what? :lol
-
Be safe TxMom.
Mac
-
Get a basket ball, or socker ball and keep it on the front porch. When you hear one of those idiots screaming up the road, toss the ball out there in front of them. Make sure to hit the car. When they stop ask them how they would feel if they had hit your kid or someone elses kid if they had been chasing that ball, and they had been speeding and couldn't stop in time.
Sometimes the shock value can actually work.
That is an outstanding way to get into an unnecessary confrontation.
-
if only you could see the people that live in the dumpy apartments up the road i dont think you would mind. It just makes me mad that the cops drive up and down the street and these people slow down untill the cops leave and they are right back to doing it...
-
a what? :lol
Sorry SOCCER Give me a break, I just got back from lunch with the boss, my tummy's full, and I'm ready to take a nap. Can't repair any of the gear in my shop because I'm waiting on authorization from the cutomers to do the work, so I'm bored, and it's a nice day outside, and I'd rather be out fishing or golfing. Might go out back and wash my truck as long as I have to be here at work. I'll just forward my office phone to my cell, not that I ever get a bunch of calls since I'm in the tech side of the house.
Geez I love my new job!!!!!
-
That is an outstanding way to get into an unnecessary confrontation.
That may be, but I used to do it when I lived on a busy street and my kids were playing out front. I'd rather have a small discussion with someone over a ball, than have to deal with seeing my kid or someone elses kid get hit by a car because someone wants to race through a residential area. If your not willing to stand up to someone who is potentialy posing a threat to your kids through their stupidity, what are you willing to stand up for??
-
Kittens and beer. :aok
-
thats a good idea off to wal mart tonight for a basketball..LOL
Our dad use to sit out front while we blew stuff up on New Years and July 4th with a cooler of beer and bucket of baseballs, little more control and velocity with those. Those 2 days of the year nobody would stop at the stop sign in front of the house and treat it like turn at Indy.
-
Kittens and beer. :aok
wooowooo
-
Texas needs gun control...it sounds like it's getting out of hand.
(Paging Steve Bailey...Paging Steve Bailey) ;)
Texas has gun control. We need to kick start death row. It stopped for awhile for the liberals to hash out saving criminals at the expense of innocent victims.
-
Texas needs gun control
Center mass 98.9 % . How much control you expecting?
-
I send my son out to get into the car this morning (intending to be a few steps behind him), and hear gun shots from right outside our home. He runs back in & locks the door (smart kid).
I go outside & see the cop who lives across the street peel off in his car (I didn't know he was a cop until this morning when he turned the lights inside of his car on. I guess he's a new neighbor, since I don't recall ever having seen him before today, either).
Then later in the morning another son calls me to bring him something at his school. As I'm walking out of his school, I hear screaming and a ton of gun shots from the surrounding neighborhood.
Further down my street, there's another cop. He was shot outside of his home a few months back. When I googled it this morning, that news article that details that particular shooting has disappeared ~ and in it's place is a news article which appears to have replaced it, omitting entirely that he's a cop... and even changes the line of events.
And even now as I'm typing this I hear more sirens. When we moved into this neighborhood just a few short years ago, this was considered to be one of the "safer" parts of town. I am soooo ready to leave our neighborhood.
If you should decide to stay there, then I would definitely recommend getting a Class III fully automatic weapon to protect your home with. This would give you a big edge in protecting your family from any armed thugs and hoodlums.
Texas is one of the states that still allows for ownership of Class III weapons. A dealer in Central Texas has detailed instructions available online to help any Texas citizen who wants to get a license to get a Class III firearm. Feel free to check it out here:
http://www.spreadfirearms.com/class3citizen.html
The only gotcha in doing this is that your local Chief of Police has to approve your license. And they are not required by law to do so in Texas, even if your criminal record is clean. But most Police Chiefs and Sheriffs in Texas are pro-gun ownership, so your odds are actually pretty decent that they would, as long as you have a clean record.
Mac-10 9mm submachine guns are pretty popular with Moms for self-defense. It would definitely be one to check out, like this lady here:
(http://www.irighti.org/mac10mg.jpg)
-
Thanks, I'm not going to walk around wearing a gun. All of these shootings have been out in the streets, since they're serious pansies, and don't get out of the cars. It's not like I'd ever have time to go into the house, get the weapon, load it, then go back out by the time they finish driving by.
I ain't moving, neither.
-
Thanks, I'm not going to walk around wearing a gun. All of these shootings have been out in the streets, since they're serious pansies, and don't get out of the cars. It's not like I'd ever have time to go into the house, get the weapon, load it, then go back out by the time they finish driving by.
I ain't moving, neither.
Thugs: rutabagas who use guns because they ain't man enough to use anything else.
If you don't protect yourself then may I suggest the old exercise we did in gym years and years ago.... the squat thrust so you can practice hitting the deck....
-
If you don't protect yourself then may I suggest the old exercise we did in gym years and years ago.... the squat thrust so you can practice hitting the deck....
That's my point. I'm not going to sit on my front porch with a loaded gun on the off chance that some twit with a gun drives by.
And if a twit with a gun does drive by, there's not time to go back into the house, get my gun, load it, & go back out to shoot the guy. They'd have already driven past.
-
I live in a very safe neighborhood.... I just usually carry my pistol out of habit.
-
Thanks, I'm not going to walk around wearing a gun. All of these shootings have been out in the streets, since they're serious pansies, and don't get out of the cars. It's not like I'd ever have time to go into the house, get the weapon, load it, then go back out by the time they finish driving by.
I ain't moving, neither.
Well, drive by violence has a habit of eventually coming indoors.
Just look at what has happened in Chicago this past week. All of the shootings and killings over the weekend were random outdoor events.
Then yesterday a home in Chicago gets invaded, all 5 people inside shot dead execution style to the head, and the house ransacked and looted of valuables.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=6377316&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
Criminals are becoming more and more bold these days. And many seem to have no respect at all for human life.
.
-
I live in a very safe neighborhood.
We're moving to your town (eventually). The rest of our family is there already. Will be years, though. It's sweet peace when we visit. :)
-
IMHO I think its time to move, especially when cops are getting shot and then its being covered up.
Be safe... :salute
-
I live in a very safe neighborhood
Thats what I always thought about my area. A town of 10,000 people (but very low density) with alot of farms, a very white, rural area.
Then about 5 years ago we had a big incident. Some guy high on who knows what steals the fire cheids car from the scene of a fire. The cops later find the guy and truck at house. The search the place and find all kinds of guns (IIRC they did not have permits for any of them), hookers, and a massive of amount of cocaine. while searching the yard they found some recent graves in the back with 5 or 6 bodies between them.
It reallys make me think about if there truly safe neighborhoods anymore.
-
As crazy as it sounds, i've lived in Chicago my whole life (46yrs) never had to fire a shot. Although i do have this hanging on my door.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/873_1209064704_chuck-norris-0021.jpg)
-
I send my son out to get into the car this morning (intending to be a few steps behind him), and hear gun shots from right outside our home. He runs back in & locks the door (smart kid).
But TXmom, don't you know that those gunshots are the sound of "freedom"! Your second amendment at work - the right to bear arms - Yay!
:rofl
-
But TXmom, don't you know that those gunshots are the sound of "freedom"! Your second amendment at work - the right to bear arms - Yay! :rofl
Create a shade account just to say with your post #1? :lol Smoooth!
Actually, that's not the 2nd amendment at work. The pansy thugs will have guns whether or not any amendment is present allowing it. It's the rest of us that benefit from any of the amendments.
*edit* Actually, you may not be man enough to go down this road with me... if you have to create a shades account just to say it. So please do us both a favor, and don't respond.
-
I've never heard a gun shot *in anger*.
But, you should be very happy Mom...you can have guns too.
:aok
-
*edit* Actually, you may not be man enough to go down this road with me... if you have to create a shades account just to say it. So please do us both a favor, and don't respond.
WOW, I'll bet that left a mark... :t candlemas, just put some ice on that and go lie down...
TxMom :rock
-
Best wishes to you! It's calm in the good old state of NC.
I live in a small city in Stanly County, I don't think I've ever worried about gunshots here...and when I do hear them, they are around hunting session.
Take care, and keep your family safe. :salute
hey i live in buncombe county, NC :aok
-
If you should decide to stay there, then I would definitely recommend getting a Class III fully automatic weapon to protect your home with. This would give you a big edge in protecting your family from any armed thugs and hoodlums.
Texas is one of the states that still allows for ownership of Class III weapons. A dealer in Central Texas has detailed instructions available online to help any Texas citizen who wants to get a license to get a Class III firearm. Feel free to check it out here:
http://www.spreadfirearms.com/class3citizen.html
The only gotcha in doing this is that your local Chief of Police has to approve your license. And they are not required by law to do so in Texas, even if your criminal record is clean. But most Police Chiefs and Sheriffs in Texas are pro-gun ownership, so your odds are actually pretty decent that they would, as long as you have a clean record.
Mac-10 9mm submachine guns are pretty popular with Moms for self-defense. It would definitely be one to check out, like this lady here:
(http://www.irighti.org/mac10mg.jpg)
Wow..just wow.. Hey Glok, how is Disney Land this time of year? Maybe I should mount an M60 on the roof of car to deal with all those people who cut me off on I-75 too..
"Mac-10 9mm submachine guns are pretty popular with Moms for self-defense." Man, I really hope you are joking.
-
Yeah, it's great having guns. Only thing is that if the law allows it, the criminals have got them too - in spades.
-
TxMom yer always welcomed to move to Oklahoma... we have respectable rules here.
*tips hat*
Mac
-
Yeah, it's great having guns. Only thing is that if the law allows it, the criminals have got them too - in spades.
The pansy thugs will have guns whether or not any amendment is present allowing it. It's the rest of us that benefit from any of the amendments.
-
Yeah, it's great having guns. Only thing is that if the law allows it, the criminals have got them too - in spades.
Candlemas forgets that there are citys that have laws to keep guns out of the hands of law abiding americans and still criminals got them.... In Spades...
-
Candlemas forgets that there are citys that have laws to keep guns out of the hands of law abiding americans and still criminals got them.... In Spades...
Airscrew forgets there are other societies around the world that have no guns at all, and a negligible homicide rate. Assuming he ever knew that in the first place to have been able to forget it in the second place. :lol
-
Further down my street, there's another cop. He was shot outside of his home a few months back. When I googled it this morning, that news article that details that particular shooting has disappeared ~ and in it's place is a news article which appears to have replaced it, omitting entirely that he's a cop... and even changes the line of events.
This was actually the most disturbing part, to me (Of course, keep your head down if YOU or your loved ones actually get shot at). I can't really think of a good reason for them to pull the story, offhand-really strange.
-
Frode, I found that very strange as well. I wonder why they didn't just asked to have it removed from the online archives instead?
I suppose it's entirely possible that they did just that: asked to have it removed. That would mean that in the same month another shooting on my street occurred that I never heard about... and that would be the one which I read about.
I'm sorry, it just doesn't seem likely. I'm pretty attentive... and sometimes friendly with the neighborhood snoop. :)
-
Airscrew forgets there are other societies around the world that have no guns at all, and a negligible homicide rate. Assuming he ever knew that in the first place to have been able to forget it in the second place. :lol
I have no idea what your statement has to do with my reply to your statement. I never said there are places in the world that are unaffected by gun violence... I said you forget there are places that have guns bans already and criminals still have guns.
you say
Yeah, it's great having guns. Only thing is that if the law allows it, the criminals have got them too - in spades.
Which I take to mean, If we had laws to ban guns then we wouldnt have criminals with guns.
I replied
Candlemas forgets that there are citys that have laws to keep guns out of the hands of law abiding americans and still criminals got them.... In Spades...
Washington DC has a handgun ban but still criminals have guns but law abiding people do not. So laws banning guns do not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
In my opinion, the only way a gun ban works is if you take every weapon (gun, rifle, shotgun, etc) ever made and destroy them. Disarm the police, military, burn down all the weapon, ammo, gun powder manufacturing plants, and throw everything in the ocean.
And that Mr. Shades, is not going to happen.... So as long as 1 guy has a weapon, I want one to. And thats the way its been for thousands of years
-
Create a shade account just to say with your post #1? :lol Smoooth!
Actually, that's not the 2nd amendment at work. The pansy thugs will have guns whether or not any amendment is present allowing it. It's the rest of us that benefit from any of the amendments.
*edit* Actually, you may not be man enough to go down this road with me... if you have to create a shades account just to say it. So please do us both a favor, and don't respond.
The fool dares to mock Mom (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:rIqEqwGrj9SnXM:http://69.90.174.248/photos/display_pic_with_logo/64260/64260,1149271314,1.jpg)
-
There's a bad part of Annapolis Maryland named Eastport. It's just over the bridge. The crime has gotten so bad in there that the Police don't even turn on their flashers and sirens anymore when entering it. If they did, you'd be woken up once every hour in the night.
-
I send my son out to get into the car this morning (intending to be a few steps behind him), and hear gun shots from right outside our home. He runs back in & locks the door (smart kid).
I go outside & see the cop who lives across the street peel off in his car (I didn't know he was a cop until this morning when he turned the lights inside of his car on. I guess he's a new neighbor, since I don't recall ever having seen him before today, either).
Then later in the morning another son calls me to bring him something at his school. As I'm walking out of his school, I hear screaming and a ton of gun shots from the surrounding neighborhood.
Further down my street, there's another cop. He was shot outside of his home a few months back. When I googled it this morning, that news article that details that particular shooting has disappeared ~ and in it's place is a news article which appears to have replaced it, omitting entirely that he's a cop... and even changes the line of events.
And even now as I'm typing this I hear more sirens. When we moved into this neighborhood just a few short years ago, this was considered to be one of the "safer" parts of town. I am soooo ready to leave our neighborhood.
jeeze!!!! you have to move........that's no place for someone nice(im going by what i read about you in here). it also makes me more thankful for the neighborhood i live in....it's still free of things like that....heck.i've fallen asleep with my front door wide open, and my garage open...and when i park my car in the garage, i leave the keys in the ignition...but nothing touched.....
please, stay safe and get the heck outta there!!!! i don't wanna have to read a thread about you getting hurt..or worse!!
<<S>>
-
Texas needs gun control...it sounds like it's getting out of hand.
(Paging Steve Bailey...Paging Steve Bailey) ;)
uumm......the places with the strictest gun control, are actually the most dangerous.
<<S>>
-
if only you could see the people that live in the dumpy apartments up the road i dont think you would mind. It just makes me mad that the cops drive up and down the street and these people slow down untill the cops leave and they are right back to doing it...
i'd be willing to bet that some of your own neighbors are doing it too....not just the people in the "dumpy" apartments. did ya ever thing that maybe there's nice people in some of them, but that's all they can afford?
<<S>>
-
Yeah, it's great having guns. Only thing is that if the law allows it, the criminals have got them too - in spades.
dude.....criminals will ALWAYS have guns, regardless of the law. i can go to camden right now(it's 10:30 at night) and for $500.00 or less, i can have a decent gun. tonight. just like the criminals do. i don't though. in nj to do it legally, ya have to go through local, and i think state police, then ya can buy one. i would do it legally, but i have other things i have to spend my money on.......but i DO thank god that i live in a country where it's my choice....and hope it remains as such for all of our sakes, as those who own them are gonna someday be the ones protecting and helping the rest of us....i think..........i'm gonna stop now.........
-
Candlemas forgets that there are citys that have laws to keep guns out of the hands of law abiding americans and still criminals got them.... In Spades...
look at our capital......no further argument needed
-
I have no idea what your statement has to do with my reply to your statement. I never said there are places in the world that are unaffected by gun violence... I said you forget there are places that have guns bans already and criminals still have guns.
you sayWhich I take to mean, If we had laws to ban guns then we wouldnt have criminals with guns.
I repliedWashington DC has a handgun ban but still criminals have guns but law abiding people do not. So laws banning guns do not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
In my opinion, the only way a gun ban works is if you take every weapon (gun, rifle, shotgun, etc) ever made and destroy them. Disarm the police, military, burn down all the weapon, ammo, gun powder manufacturing plants, and throw everything in the ocean.
And that Mr. Shades, is not going to happen.... So as long as 1 guy has a weapon, I want one to. And thats the way its been for thousands of years
but then they'll come for us archery types :O
-
If you should decide to stay there, then I would definitely recommend getting a Class III fully automatic weapon to protect your home with. This would give you a big edge in protecting your family from any armed thugs and hoodlums.
Texas is one of the states that still allows for ownership of Class III weapons. A dealer in Central Texas has detailed instructions available online to help any Texas citizen who wants to get a license to get a Class III firearm. Feel free to check it out here:
http://www.spreadfirearms.com/class3citizen.html
The only gotcha in doing this is that your local Chief of Police has to approve your license. And they are not required by law to do so in Texas, even if your criminal record is clean. But most Police Chiefs and Sheriffs in Texas are pro-gun ownership, so your odds are actually pretty decent that they would, as long as you have a clean record.
Mac-10 9mm submachine guns are pretty popular with Moms for self-defense. It would definitely be one to check out, like this lady here:
(http://www.irighti.org/mac10mg.jpg)
You have to be a troll. A pretty damn good troll. Either that, or you really are close to being mentally retarded. You are the type of blood thirsty retarded gun owner that makes the rest of us look bad.
-
.......but i DO thank god that i live in a country where it's my choice....
I for one do not propose taking that choice from you. The only problem is that while you get to choose whether or not to be armed, you DON'T get to choose whether the criminals are armed. That choice has been made for you. You could argue that it's better that way, but when I read threads like this plus the violence in Chicago thread, plus VA Tech, plus Columbine-type threads, plus... well, you know - makes you wonder.
-
Mom, I would advise you to not only get out of that neighborhood, but out of Killeen period. You know my reasons.
-
I for one do not propose taking that choice from you. The only problem is that while you get to choose whether or not to be armed, you DON'T get to choose whether the criminals are armed. That choice has been made for you. You could argue that it's better that way, but when I read threads like this plus the violence in Chicago thread, plus VA Tech, plus Columbine-type threads, plus... well, you know - makes you wonder.
the fact that thatr choice is already made makes it that much more important. like someone said earlier..the onlyl way to stop violence with guns it to take them from virtually everyone.....including the military, police, and destroy all equipment to make them. that cannot and never will happen. this means we need to deal with the situation as best as we can, and truthfully, allowing the people to bear arms, is the best solution. i do believe the police in most states have no issue with RESPONSIBLE citizens owning guns. they take the proper training, and continually practice. i also do believe that i recall reading somewhere a few years back that some regions of the US that didn't before allow citizens to carry, changed that law, allowing them to carry their guns......and violent crime dropped siginificantly.
the colombine thing......i believe those weapons were legal.....and the parents of those kids should be hald more responsible than those kids.....the guns weren't secured properly obvously, as the kids got them. i also think i remember something about the kids there planting explosive devices around the school? again, the parents......there HAD to have been signs of something going terribly wrong in these kids minds. a parent should've noticed that behaviour change in his or her kid......if not, then i would thing a friend, or a schoolmate.
the VA tech thing./...i believe there were a few reports of this person being angry, and changing recently before this happened. again, someone that knew him, should have said something. on the other side of that though, imagine if only ONE of the victems or someone in the local vicinity was carrying and had the proper training? that incedent could've/would've been over very quickly.
that is the advantage to allowing properly trained citizens to carry. picture it this way. imagine you're the badguy. you live in DC......you know for fact that you can walk into the local convienence store, and pull your illegally obtained gun on the cashier, and nothing bad will most likely hapen to you unless a police officer walks in. same on the subway or train stations. now take the same situation and go to florida(i think they allow carrying of concealed guns ther, but not sure) or any other place that allows ou to carry. you again walk into the convienence store.....but you realize that that guy in the last isle may have a gun, as well as the guy behind the counter....not to mention anyone else that may alk in, or see what you're doing, and just wait outside for you. so what're you going to do? you're going to leave without ever doing anything this time.....unless you're stupid..then you're probably going to get heurt or die.
i respect your opinion, and again thank god i live in a country that i/we can freely express our opinions, but at least maybe now you can see the need for more citizens being able to protect themselves. the police have one of the hardest jobs in the country, and are never thanked for it....and they cannot be everywhere at once. heck, there's some places that even THEY try to avoid i think.....and it's due to these types of laws.
on a final note, we don't need anymore gun control laws....we need to more aggressivly prosecute the criminals that use them in crimes.
apologizes for such a long post.
<<S>>
-
jeeze!!!! you have to move........that's no place for someone nice(im going by what i read about you in here). <<S>>
Boy, did I feel like a major heel after reading that right after seeing what I said to candlemas. :uhoh
Sorry.
-
I wouldn't worry too much about it Texasmom. We all know your pretty nice most of the time :D
Besides it was a decent.............
(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefNd5xFINXUBZAqjzbkF/SIG=1228ms2od/EXP=1209219293/**http%3A//users.ameritech.net/z31t/kelso_burn.gif)
-
i'd be willing to bet that some of your own neighbors are doing it too....not just the people in the "dumpy" apartments. did ya ever thing that maybe there's nice people in some of them, but that's all they can afford?
<<S>>
actually none of my neighbors go speeding on our street it is the people up the road from us and i know that b/c they come flying down the street from there and go flying up the street to there. I never said there werent any nice people up there. I also understand that those apartments are all they can afford but if they can only afford that then why would they want to possibly kill a kid who runs in the street b/c they are speeding or even get a speeding ticket.
-
Boy, did I feel like a major heel after reading that right after seeing what I said to candlemas. :uhoh
Sorry.
you've nothing to apologize for.....
<<S>>
-
CAP1 - than you for your (long) reply! I agree with everything you said. You can't de-gun America. You can't de-gun any country where a gun culture has been allowed to take hold. That would be like trying to create peace in Iraq.
I'm glad you have a choice that you are able to take. There are all kinds of choices in this life, including where to live. I'm glad of that choice and have lived in two other countries besides my own. I can either live in an "unarmed" society, where there are many fewer criminals with guns, or live in a place where there are guns aplenty, but where my own son cannot step out of the front door without hearing bullets whistling overhead and has to come back in to take cover. I think I'll choose the first option. :aok
-
actually none of my neighbors go speeding on our street it is the people up the road from us and i know that b/c they come flying down the street from there and go flying up the street to there. I never said there werent any nice people up there. I also understand that those apartments are all they can afford but if they can only afford that then why would they want to possibly kill a kid who runs in the street b/c they are speeding or even get a speeding ticket.
HHMM.......good points......i think i can offer a suggestion then, that's MUCH better than the soccerball one.....
in a neighboring town to me, people used to create the problem you dscribe during rush hour......the used the residential roads for shortcuts to get to the main road. the people complained......the borough put in speed bumps.....but not the harsh/sharp kind.....but these are fatter and less harsh. if you're driving the speed limit, you barely feel them.......if you're doing only 35 or 40...then you do feel them.....might be something to bring up to your local officials?
<<S>>
-
CAP1 - than you for your (long) reply! I agree with everything you said. You can't de-gun America. You can't de-gun any country where a gun culture has been allowed to take hold. That would be like trying to create peace in Iraq.
I'm glad you have a choice that you are able to take. There are all kinds of choices in this life, including where to live. I'm glad of that choice and have lived in two other countries besides my own. I can either live in an "unarmed" society, where there are many fewer criminals with guns, or live in a place where there are guns aplenty, but where my own son cannot step out of the front door without hearing bullets whistling overhead and has to come back in to take cover. I think I'll choose the first option. :aok
yep.....that's why i apologized at the end for the long reply....i get longwinded sometimes when i'm trying to make a point :D
for any of it's short commings though, i'll sta right here in the good ole USA.....i truely do believe that this is still the best place in the world to live.......nowhere else in the world can have the freedoms or rights that i have here.
<<S>>
-
HHMM.......good points......i think i can offer a suggestion then, that's MUCH better than the soccerball one.....
in a neighboring town to me, people used to create the problem you dscribe during rush hour......the used the residential roads for shortcuts to get to the main road. the people complained......the borough put in speed bumps.....but not the harsh/sharp kind.....but these are fatter and less harsh. if you're driving the speed limit, you barely feel them.......if you're doing only 35 or 40...then you do feel them.....might be something to bring up to your local officials?
<<S>>
yeah we have talked to them and they said that we will see a increase in patrol vehicles by the weekend and that is good but the only problem is these people slow down when they know or see a cop up there and then when the cops leave they start all over again. There are 2 good hills on our street so hopefully they will sit somewhere so when the cars are speeding up or down they can catch some of these people. I just worry b/c our neighborhood is full of little kids and kids walking home from school and you never know. The soccer ball thing was funny but I wouldnt do that b/c next thing you know they would be trying to sue us for something.
-
yeah we have talked to them and they said that we will see a increase in patrol vehicles by the weekend and that is good but the only problem is these people slow down when they know or see a cop up there and then when the cops leave they start all over again. There are 2 good hills on our street so hopefully they will sit somewhere so when the cars are speeding up or down they can catch some of these people. I just worry b/c our neighborhood is full of little kids and kids walking home from school and you never know. The soccer ball thing was funny but I wouldnt do that b/c next thing you know they would be trying to sue us for something.
yep...sue..or worse......like drive bys...or vandalizing your or your neighbors things. the patrol is a good idea, but most people can tell an unmarked police car a mile away....i know i can.....but at leas they're trying to help. i justr think the speed bump thing is the best idea, as it never takes a break, and ya don't have to pay them.
one other thing i'm wondering if will do any good there? if you or any of your neighbors are home on a regular basis when this happens, keep a digital camera with ya...take pics of them doing this......or even better, you can buy radar guns for less than $100.....radar the bastages, get them on film(or digital media)and send it to the police.
i do realize you shouldn't have to do all this, but it'll help.........i hope.........
<<S>>
-
yep...sue..or worse......like drive bys...or vandalizing your or your neighbors things. the patrol is a good idea, but most people can tell an unmarked police car a mile away....i know i can.....but at leas they're trying to help. i justr think the speed bump thing is the best idea, as it never takes a break, and ya don't have to pay them.
one other thing i'm wondering if will do any good there? if you or any of your neighbors are home on a regular basis when this happens, keep a digital camera with ya...take pics of them doing this......or even better, you can buy radar guns for less than $100.....radar the bastages, get them on film(or digital media)and send it to the police.
i do realize you shouldn't have to do all this, but it'll help.........i hope.........
<<S>>
yeah the people that live beside us on the right are home from 3-to whenever usually and they have 2 little kids and the people across the street have a little girl and on both sides of them they have kids also and they are constantly outside yelling at these cars to slow down but the next time they go by they just go faster...who knows hopefully something will happen. Like i said if the cops sit on the side of the hill where you cant see them comming from the apts as soon as they top the hill they should get busted....hmm who knows...
-
I you DON'T get to choose whether the criminals are armed. That choice has been made for you.
Back again Beet1e?
You don't get to choose whether the criminals are armed in Jolly Olde England either. Despite your handgun ban, there are still criminals with handguns preying on your law abiding citizens.
Draconian English gun laws have left your gun homicide rate essentially unchanged since the 1920's. It's not the gun, it's the society. Yours is moving closer to ours, so I expect your gun homicide rate will edge up as the years go by. In 40 years time England will not be a a 92% (or is it higher?) whitebread society like it is now.
BTW, I'm betting Skuzzy will ban you again shortly...
-
for any of it's short commings though, i'll sta right here in the good ole USA.....i truely do believe that this is still the best place in the world to live.......nowhere else in the world can have the freedoms or rights that i have here.
I'm glad you're happy where you are. Hopefully you're like me in having the freedom to walk out of your own front door without having bullets whizzing past and then having to come back in. Apparently TXMom's son does not enjoy that freedom.
-
I heard gunfire nearby more often in France than in the US. What do you make of that, beet1e?