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Title: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SPKmes on July 10, 2008, 12:11:16 AM
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Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Baitman on July 10, 2008, 01:15:33 AM
Take an undefended country :aok it would be easier than an undefended Vbase :rofl
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 10, 2008, 03:00:30 AM
 :rofl


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Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 10, 2008, 03:52:10 AM
#2 definately!
:rofl
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: DiabloTX on July 10, 2008, 04:49:49 AM
Hey, there's a day off in it.  Home by lunch.  Sounds like a win/win to me.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 10, 2008, 04:59:47 AM
Meh, give us a public holiday and we'd be all for National Sodomy Day :lol
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: cpxxx on July 10, 2008, 06:26:04 AM
I voted for the second ad. But somehow I doubt the Kiwis would be such a pushover.  :D
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 10, 2008, 07:15:55 AM
Well, the natives can be a bit testy, and I hear their Iroquois squadron can give a pretty nasty windburn.
Once we get on the ground they do have something that approaches an army, but apart from being confronted by cricket bat wielding All Blacks, I really don't think there would be much of a problem :devil
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 10, 2008, 08:11:42 AM
Didn't that UN lady take all of the aussie "guys" guns away already? 

They gonna bring a beer bottle to a gun fight?

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 10, 2008, 08:25:32 AM

What UN lady

If the locals are softened up with enough beer, and they are invited to the barby afterwards, shouldnt be any fight at all  :D

Probably take the attraction out of the cricket and rugby though...

#2...
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 10, 2008, 09:00:33 AM
Rebecca peters...  if you don't know that she was behind you losing your rights then shame on you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmg_zMuQEDk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WwLz9hBZfM

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 10, 2008, 09:04:05 AM
Didn't that UN lady take all of the aussie "guys" guns away already? 

They gonna bring a beer bottle to a gun fight?

lazs

The O'Club, even a light humoured thread can get hijacked into another gun discussion...  :rolleyes:


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Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Engine on July 10, 2008, 09:32:50 AM
See Rule #7
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: moot on July 10, 2008, 10:54:39 AM
See Rule #7
The second amendment was obviously written on a day when the planets aligned and the authors's monthly periods all coincided.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 10, 2008, 11:15:57 AM
Didn't that UN lady take all of the aussie "guys" guns away already? 

They gonna bring a beer bottle to a gun fight?

lazs
No unfortunately we had an election were we voted them out contrary to what the NRA commercials here in the USA said. They sort of left that fact out.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 10, 2008, 12:05:28 PM
No there was no vote on the gun issue,
and the mouthpiece Rebbecca was a convenient load noise of a minority that suited Howards agenda for his type of politics.
Anyway there was over 3.5 million semi auto rifles imported into Australia alone from 1958 till the banning.
All of 650,000 semi auto rifles and semi auto and pump action shotguns where handed in, Hmmmmm I wonder what happened to the rest of em.
Thankfully Aussie's are from good convict stock  :aok


just sayin

Any other comments on this Ill make in the gun thread if urged
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 10, 2008, 02:25:16 PM
I know some aussies and they didn't get the memo on the whole vote to disarm yourself thing.

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 10, 2008, 04:00:03 PM
I know I didn't get to vote on it.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 10, 2008, 05:39:06 PM
Congratulations Lazs another thread hijacked to another gun/amendment thread. Next time if you want to have a go at Aussies start your own thread.


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Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 10, 2008, 06:27:47 PM
I know some aussies and they didn't get the memo on the whole vote to disarm yourself thing.

lazs

Meh who has to pay some sorta tax to have a supressor on their rifle - sounds like some sort of commie country to me.

Anyhoo, I'd welcome our new Aussie overlords, they might negate all the Maori land/$$$ claims. And some of those aussie chicks would be nice (as long as they don't talk).
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 10, 2008, 06:36:50 PM
And some of those aussie chicks would be nice (as long as they don't talk).

 :rofl


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Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 10, 2008, 09:52:10 PM
And some of those aussie chicks would be nice (as long as they don't talk).
Or sing (Apart from a few notable exceptions) :O
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SPKmes on July 10, 2008, 09:53:46 PM
Or sing (Apart from a few notable exceptions) :O

Who's that  ...   Dame Edna?
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 10, 2008, 10:05:30 PM
(http://kyliesplace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/kylie1.jpg)


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Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SPKmes on July 10, 2008, 10:13:58 PM



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  You haven't been corrupted and become an au...au...I can't even bring myself to say it, have you. If so then she would have to be known as a pommy bird.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 11, 2008, 01:45:41 AM
I know some aussies and they didn't get the memo on the whole vote to disarm yourself thing.

lazs
My original post was short of some facts as I was at work at the time & pressed for a proper responce. In 1996 when Prime Minister Howard enacted the new gun laws he stated that this would upset a lot of Australians & if so they could show there frustrations at the ballot box. Since all Australians must enroll to vote & show up @ election time to vote. The general population failed to take up Prime Minister Howard on the gun ban issue as most Australians agreed with him at the time. As it is here in the USA the majority rules. So we are stuck for now with those restrictions the Australian people spoke by reelecting John Howard & also voted in his gun policy's by doing so. The majority of Australians seem to be in favour still of the laws John Howard passed & I don't see them being over turned any time soon.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 11, 2008, 02:37:03 AM

The Australian public didn't vote a Prime Minister in on this one issue, especially when the spin doctors were working overtime to distract them from anything important with the "Babies Overboard" BS and keeping the hoards of boat people from invading the north shores.
And the Labour Party had no shiny objects in hand at the time to get the publics attention.
But then I guess those people also believed him when he said he wasn't going to introduce a GST or sell off Tesltra.
Still the country is a  much safer place now, right. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Angus on July 11, 2008, 05:14:09 AM
Well, if you want to mess with the New Zealanders, try their Rugby team.
(For american football, the rules are a tad similar, just remove all protection  :devil)
The "HAKA"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cle20lQg0Qs
And more, hehe, look at the expressionon the opponents :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHW1K2LeQXE&feature=related

Now the last one is going to make you laugh hard. Take the NZ "HAKA" and mix it with French culture, spice with USA cheer leader culture, and make the performers...female :D
ENJOY
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Angus on July 11, 2008, 05:15:14 AM
Here it comes...heheheh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWgWVIIGgj0&feature=related

Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 11, 2008, 05:35:31 AM

Love it when these guys do that.

Dont have to be a Kiwi to get the hairs up on the back of the neck listening to a "HAKA".  :aok

Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Excel1 on July 11, 2008, 06:34:23 AM
My original post was short of some facts as I was at work at the time & pressed for a proper responce. In 1996 when Prime Minister Howard enacted the new gun laws he stated that this would upset a lot of Australians & if so they could show there frustrations at the ballot box. Since all Australians must enroll to vote & show up @ election time to vote. The general population failed to take up Prime Minister Howard on the gun ban issue as most Australians agreed with him at the time. As it is here in the USA the majority rules. So we are stuck for now with those restrictions the Australian people spoke by reelecting John Howard & also voted in his gun policy's by doing so. The majority of Australians seem to be in favour still of the laws John Howard passed & I don't see them being over turned any time soon.


shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted never works. that nag is long gone.

lazs is right, you guys should have got stuck in to your government before the legislation was passed, like the nz shooting organisations did over here when the ignorant clueless nz gov threatened to bring in the same knee jerk and draconian regulations.

to put it bluntly, and to keep a short story even shorter, the gov were politly told they were full of shirt, as well as given an education in the realities of the costs involved in buybacks, the likely low compliance with the regs, and the practicalities and costs involved in modifying guns to comply with the proposed regs… shortning magazine tubes on pump shotguns to physically hold only two rounds and so forth..

despite a noisy irrational  anti gun brigade and a liberal/socialist gov, common sense won. at the time, I was surprised it didn’t work out that way in oz.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 11, 2008, 08:16:39 AM
Unfortunately King Johnny conveniently forgot to listen to the gun owners, and pushed the legislation through anyway because he had a majority in both houses because it was politically beneficial for him to be seen to be doing something. The Media jumped on the Government knows best bandwagon, because King Johnny sold newspapers at the time and by the time the nation went to the polls it was a done deal and Prince Kim couldn't find his arse with both hands, so King Johnny stayed in. Bear in mind this was Australia's' RIGHT wing who did this to us. The Liberal party is the Oz Right wing politicians, The Labour Party is the Left.
Either way you cut it, we were screwed.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Angus on July 11, 2008, 09:16:45 AM
Love it when these guys do that.

Dont have to be a Kiwi to get the hairs up on the back of the neck listening to a "HAKA".  :aok



remember big Jake?
Such a gentleman.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB3C6KP6pGY&feature=related
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 11, 2008, 09:51:32 AM
I'm not hearing a bunch of happy happy over the whole deal here...  I don't know any aussies who are happy about it.

If I did.. I would not know that guy for long.  I would have no use for him.   Her? well..  women are women.. ya gotta cut em some slack for not knowing anything about the world and for the hormone thing but...  I just can't stand the accent..  it is worse than the Scottish one of my grandparents.

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 11, 2008, 11:06:04 AM

Jake the Mus was a man who new how to treat the Ladies

 Cook the Bro's some eggs ........
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Angus on July 11, 2008, 11:50:20 AM
Hehe.
T'was a very good movie, and Jake was sure a character to remember.
The second one was also good IMHO.
Lots of Aussie and NZ stuff rocks..
How about...this one :D
(never try to come between an aussie and his beer :D)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwpZFsVyues
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 11, 2008, 01:33:56 PM
I'm not hearing a bunch of happy happy over the whole deal here...  I don't know any aussies who are happy about it.

If I did.. I would not know that guy for long.  I would have no use for him.   Her? well..  women are women.. ya gotta cut em some slack for not knowing anything about the world and for the hormone thing but...  I just can't stand the accent..  it is worse than the Scottish one of my grandparents.

lazs
May have to go Knight just to chat with you & drive you up the wall. :aok
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 11, 2008, 03:42:02 PM
I'm not hearing a bunch of happy happy over the whole deal here...  I don't know any aussies who are happy about it.

lazs

What are you? Some sort of full time forum troll?

Happy? I couldn't be happier and for so many reasons I couldn't begin to go through them all. Why do you think they call it lucky or God's own Country?

Just how many Aussies do you know or met outside of this forum and online game Lazs??  :rolleyes:

If you'd ever actually spent some time in Australia (starting to wonder if you've ever lived outside the US?) you'd understand why the majority of the population don't give a toss about gun laws. The world could be days aways from being wiped out by a asteroid and you'd still be on here posting about guns and gun rights.

And as for slagging of Scotland as well, if you departed from your closed in little world at all and experienced the country for yourself you wouldn't have such a closed opinion. And would know to well that the worst accent in the UK is Scouse. Scottish accent and Scottish girls are fantastic.

Anyway, O'Club and discussions with a full time forum lurker like yourself are pointless I've got a bike to get ready for a days ride.


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Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 11, 2008, 04:26:05 PM
WooHoo... Australia has the best Biking roads in the world :rock
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 11, 2008, 04:40:32 PM
Well, if you want to mess with the New Zealanders, try their Rugby team.
(For american football, the rules are a tad similar, just remove all protection  :devil)
The "HAKA"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cle20lQg0Qs
And more, hehe, look at the expressionon the opponents :D


Oh gawd how I miss Tana, he was an awesome player and led an awesome haka.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 11, 2008, 04:57:53 PM
I miss Buck and Rugby in the 80s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo0s2VVmdhQ



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Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 11, 2008, 05:01:14 PM
It was s good game before they put the players in miniskirts.
Back in the day you could be guaranteed at least one decent blue at a Footy Match.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 11, 2008, 06:34:40 PM
It was s good game before they put the players in miniskirts.
Back in the day you could be guaranteed at least one decent blue at a Footy Match.

What are you talk about, there was plenty last week with those dirty South Africans. They couldn't play a clean game if their life depended on it. The SA coach has even pulled the racism card on us.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 11, 2008, 08:37:12 PM
Everybody pulls the racism card on us :lol
Even in our own domestic matches!
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 11, 2008, 08:49:38 PM
Everybody pulls the racism card on us :lol
Even in our own domestic matches!

 :rofl

True, so funny.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Excel1 on July 11, 2008, 09:15:56 PM
Bear in mind this was Australia's' RIGHT wing who did this to us. The Liberal party is the Oz Right wing politicians, The Labour Party is the Left.
Either way you cut it, we were screwed.

i'm familiar with the political orientation of the aussie liberal and labour parties but you are probably not aware that in nz it was a conservative national government that instigated the arms act reforms, and no doubt they would have taken it through to the legislation stage if they had of not been chucked out of government first. it was their idea, so they were hardly of a mind to challenge the liberal/socialist labour government that replaced them.. and they didn't. in fact, apart from support from several of the minor political parties nz shooters rights groups and organizations were largely left battling the reforms alone, and the relative ease with which you guys were rolled didn't make it any easier.









Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 12, 2008, 03:11:31 AM
I really REALLY don't want this to turn into a huge gun debate.
I went to the meetings and was part of the pro-gun debate. There was a HUGE number of people that actively opposed this, but they were swept under the carpet. King Johnny and his crew knew it was unpopular but they did it anyway. it was not helped at all by the fact that the media liked the concept and the only coverage given to those against the legislation was for the more extreme lunatic fringe.
In short the idea was rammed down our throats by the media and the bleeding hearts. By the time an election came around it was a done deal, no Government in this country would have the balls to roll it back, the media (the real driving force behind out politics) would tear them to pieces. One thing I have always stood by is : Only the gullible ever gave up their guns :noid
The biggest victim of the last 20 years of touchy-feely PC let's all wallow in our own mediocre crapulence (sic) was the Australian way of life.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Angus on July 12, 2008, 03:50:22 AM
I'm not hearing a bunch of happy happy over the whole deal here...  I don't know any aussies who are happy about it.

If I did.. I would not know that guy for long.  I would have no use for him.   Her? well..  women are women.. ya gotta cut em some slack for not knowing anything about the world and for the hormone thing but...  I just can't stand the accent..  it is worse than the Scottish one of my grandparents.

lazs

And many Europeans can't stand the way Americans speak .... drawling....
I for one like the way the Aussies, the Kiwis, the Scotch, the Paddies, the Taffies and all the sorts of English speak, be it London or Newcastle.....Ever been over there Lazs?
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 12, 2008, 09:48:10 AM
for those who asked.. yes.. I have been to england and Scotland and my grandparents came from there.

The accents range from sophisticated to childish to gibberish.. I was told I had an accent.   I said.. "If I have an accent then why is it that you can understand every word I say but I can't understand a frigging thing you say?"  and...  "If I have an accent.. then why do you guys sound just like me when you sing?"

I have not been to aussie land.. I belong to a Healey club that has some members.. and..   you can't swing a dead cat in America without hitting one of you guys who is either now a citizen or doing everything in his power to become one..

They seem extremely happy to be able to own firearms..  The good thing is.. it is their choice.. not the governments or the metrosexuals but theirs.

I have been to europe and I have been to canada and mexico.    I don't live in a place with little pocket countries a healthy man can walk across in a day or so.  we have states... lots of em.. they all are a little different and I have seen most of em.    I drive my own car or motorcycle to see em.

If you haven't seen anything but a few big cities in America then you haven't seen any of America.. the big cities are just like the big cities in other countries.. dirty crapholes full of self absorbed aholes who want to run everyone elses life and worry more about their shoes and fingernails than anything else.

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 12, 2008, 11:12:15 AM

  I said.. "If I have an accent then why is it that you can understand every word I say but I can't understand a frigging thing you say?" 
Very simple American television shows & movies have been around for a very long time & have been exported all over the world. So us foreigners have grown up listening to a very broad range of American dialects. Until Crocodile Dundee came out almost no one here In the USA had much experience with Australian Accents. 
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Angus on July 12, 2008, 12:01:01 PM
Lazs:
"I don't live in a place with little pocket countries a healthy man can walk across in a day or so."
I guess you refer to the Vatican  :devil

Anyway, seriously, some of the "city" thing really gets on my nerve. When cities think they are the country, while the trouth is that the city cannot survive without what's outside it, and that does not work both ways.
Everybody cannot live in a city, while everybody could live outside a city...
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Jester on July 12, 2008, 04:42:02 PM
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8804/hijackedjr7.gif)

Damn! The thread went from Invading New Zealand to Rugby to Gun Control! You could get "WHIPLASH" reading this thread as fast as the subject changes!
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 12, 2008, 06:06:44 PM
You still have to register and pay tax if you want to own a suppressor for your gun lazs <scupcake> where's ya freedom there.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 12, 2008, 06:44:00 PM
Still, you have to admit, despite being governed by a mob of interfering media clowns we're doing allright.
We have some of the best beaches in the world, provided you can live with the sharks, the (extraordinarily deadly) Box Jellyfish and the pretty yet poisonous Blue Ringed Octopus. Our bushland is beautiful yet harbours some of the deadliest insects and reptiles known to man. The Northern wetlands play host to an enormous variety of life which include the impressive but notoriously short tempered Salt Water Crocodile.
Even our unique wildlife though outwardly docile can be deadly.
The innocuous male Platypus has a poisonous spur that can inflict a very painful injury, The Kangaroos and Emus can disembowel a man with a single kick of their powerful legs. While a photoshoot with that cute looking Koala on the fencepost might sound like a nice idea, dozens of tourists have been admitted to hospital from trying to catch one. Even if you get to hold one at the zoo, they pee without warning (Vile sticky acrid vitriol) and their mood can change faster than Rosie O'Donnell without Prozac.
It's actually easier to list all the things that cannot kill or injure you here ;)
NZ sure seems a nice comfy place, but as a wise man once said, "You cannot live in boiling mud"
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: -tronski- on July 13, 2008, 12:11:08 AM
Great show I voted #2

Funny though....I thought the Kiwis had been successfully invading us for years!  :D    Hell, we even let one coach the wallabies...


As for gun laws - I hate it to break it to Laz but you still can actually have a firearm in australia, but even little Johnny Howard and his cronies worked out that you don't need an M-4 to control rabbits.
In '96 75-85% of australians were happy with, or supported even more restrictions on firearms, and I'd very suprised if thats changed since so you don't need an Irish woman to tell you where the land lies


Btw Bad luck with those Afrikaaners on saturday our Anzac brothers, hopefully we'll have a better result this weekend in Perth

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 13, 2008, 02:12:16 AM

Did the same SD67, not much hope though with all of the Knee twitching going on after the nut job Martin Bryant had his day out though.
Opened the eyes to the gullibility's of the general public big time.
Still we must like our convict heritage cause the government created more criminals in one swoop than any other piece of legislation ever introduced into the country.

Now please stop this side track... :mad:
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 13, 2008, 04:34:50 AM
NZ sure seems a nice comfy place, but as a wise man once said, "You cannot live in boiling mud"

Err actually you can and a lot of people from aussie pay good money to sit in our boiling mud.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 13, 2008, 04:48:01 AM
I really wish I could find the lyrics for that song. It was a classic! :D
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Rich46yo on July 13, 2008, 06:07:45 AM
Quote
the big cities are just like the big cities in other countries.. dirty crapholes full of self absorbed aholes who want to run everyone elses life and worry more about their shoes and fingernails than anything else.

The great thinker speaks on all things urban.

Was that all 140 million or just 139,999,998 ?
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 13, 2008, 06:15:02 AM
I have not been to aussie land.. I belong to a Healey club that has some members.. and..   you can't swing a dead cat in America without hitting one of you guys who is either now a citizen or doing everything in his power to become one..


lazs

So your entire opinion/argument about Australians is based on this game and some sort of club? :lol


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 13, 2008, 08:40:51 AM
no gixer..  I have not told you what my opinion is about aussie land other than that you guys screwed us all when you rolled over for that UN #itch  and that you have really annoying accents.

Both of which are true and do not require an extended stay in your country to come up with.

So Rich.. you like them big cities huh?  I never been to one I liked.  Can you name a good one?

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Excel1 on July 13, 2008, 08:42:38 AM
As for gun laws - I hate it to break it to Laz but you still can actually have a firearm in australia, but even little Johnny Howard and his cronies worked out that you don't need an M-4 to control rabbits.
In '96 75-85% of australians were happy with, or supported even more restrictions on firearms, and I'd very suprised if thats changed since so you don't need an Irish woman to tell you where the land lies

the grass is getting short in that paddock, better move those sheep  ;)

next to helen clark john howard was a wuss. in a 1 on 1 she would have eaten him for breakfast and farted him out at lunchtime. but at least back in those days her government still had enough decency not to play up to an ignorant majority in order to create a crocked version of democracy to strip the rights away from a minority. and apart from exposure to the media created stigma, which borders on hysteria at times, and in nz at least, the majority is ignorant. they don't own guns, don't hunt, don't participate in recreational shooting.. in short, they don't give a toss about guns, and that would make it very easy to "scare up" your 75-80%  


sd67, thanks for the honest reply earlier.

Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Angus on July 13, 2008, 11:38:55 AM
no gixer..  I have not told you what my opinion is about aussie land other than that you guys screwed us all when you rolled over for that UN #itch  and that you have really annoying accents.

Both of which are true and do not require an extended stay in your country to come up with.

So Rich.. you like them big cities huh?  I never been to one I liked.  Can you name a good one?

lazs

Try...Prague  :devil
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 14, 2008, 07:45:40 AM
no gixer..  I have not told you what my opinion is about aussie land other than that you guys screwed us all when you rolled over for that UN #itch  and that you have really annoying accents.

Both of which are true and do not require an extended stay in your country to come up with.

So Rich.. you like them big cities huh?  I never been to one I liked.  Can you name a good one?

lazs

Are you on drugs or something?

Those comments really sum you up. To judge an entire country and it's people just because from your perspective they have annoying accents is just ridiculous and incredibly naive it's laughable.

Screwed you over??? What UN itch are you going on about? You still consider that we screwed you over when only Aus and UK have stuck beside you since Bush's invasion of Iraq? Even Bush has realised just how important those two relationships have been over the past years yet you still have the nerve to say we screwed you over??  :rolleyes:

It's really so pathetic it's not worth 2 mins of my time to even read your threads let alone reply.  Stick with gun threads. Anything else even Jerry Springer wouldn't have you.


<S>...-Gixer

Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 14, 2008, 08:43:56 AM
gixer.. try to stay on topic.   I have not said anything about your country other than you rolling over like panic stricken women to that UN bs just made it that much easier for them to start on the next country to remove rights.

And..  I said that you have annoying accents.. both of those things are true... neither of them says that your entire population and your entire country sucks.  It says nothing of your beaches or outback or climate or whatever.

I will even add that it is annoying that you drive on the wrong side of the road and worse that you drive from the wrong side of a car.. your gas costs too much too and.....

from listening to you.. I would say that at least a few of you are the most thin skinned and sensitive critters on the planet.    No wonder they could work you like you were a bunch of hysterical ladies.

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 14, 2008, 08:48:04 AM
gixer.. try to stay on topic.   

lazs


Stay on topic???  :rofl

You changed the topic yourself of this entire thread within the first few posts.... What started off as a light humoured thread turned into another O'Club gun discussion. You already have a sticky what more do you need? 

As for the rest.... Wrong side of the road??? You must be a troll surely. Almost 25,000 posts I'd say you've perfected it.  :lol


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 14, 2008, 08:59:06 AM
And..  I said that you have annoying accents.. both of those things are true... lazs
Funny most American girls I meet would disagree.  Then again they are females.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Xasthur on July 14, 2008, 10:54:09 AM
I couldn't care less that Australia doesn't have guns. In fact, I'm glad we don't.

Our murder rate compared to yours is reason enough to support the restriction of guns.   :aok

The Australian accent is definitely very average, though. Kiwi, South African and Asian accents are considerably worse but we're not a long way behind them. I try to ditch the accent as much as I can but it's hard not to get sucked back into it when you're surrounded by Australians every day.

Lyric is right.... by all accounts the 'Aussie accent' is definitely a door (and maybe leg? :lol) opener when overseas.



Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 14, 2008, 02:47:11 PM
heh..  "american girls" go for gangsters and convicts and deadbeats..  anything different so why not someone who they can't even understand?

as for your murder rate.. who cares?   it hasn't gotten significantly better or worse since you gave up your guns in a hysterical womanly manner.

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 14, 2008, 03:48:23 PM
heh..  "american girls" go for gangsters and convicts and deadbeats..  anything different so why not someone who they can't even understand?

Convicts and deadbeats, that sums up aussies fairly well.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 14, 2008, 10:50:19 PM
Convicts and deadbeats, that sums up aussies fairly well.
  :lol Ignorance is bliss.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 14, 2008, 10:51:43 PM
heh..  "american girls" go for gangsters and convicts and deadbeats..  anything different so why not someone who they can't even understand?

as for your murder rate.. who cares?   it hasn't gotten significantly better or worse since you gave up your guns in a hysterical womanly manner.

lazs
So no American girls for you?
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: rogwar on July 14, 2008, 11:50:27 PM
I thought somebody was knocking Australian Shepherds in this topic.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Xasthur on July 15, 2008, 01:47:10 AM
heh..  "american girls" go for gangsters and convicts and deadbeats..  anything different so why not someone who they can't even understand?

as for your murder rate.. who cares? 

Hahah. What makes you think your accent is any easier to understand? I can't understand a word you yanks say, sometimes. I have to ask guys to repeat themselves on range all the time. 

Country with guns.... high murder rate. Country without guns..... low murder rate. Let's crunch some numbers on that, shall we? Nah, let's just get our guns instead.  :lol

I never had a gun to give up so I don't care that no one else has them.

Piss and moan all you want to Americans about your guns and who's trying to take them away from you but don't bother with Australians. The vast majority of us don't care and it is relevant to very few. You're wasting your energy pressing those keys.

Don't stress mate, it'll be quite some time before someone in your country has the testicular fortitude to take your guns away. You'll have your guns until you're too old to hold them.

Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 15, 2008, 03:02:56 AM

Not sure what the hell Lazs is ranting about with accents, but he is displaying total bananaism on this.

I wish you guys would just forget about the gun issue though, because it is very annoying to see that the "Screw you Jack I'm alright" attitude to fellow country 'peoples' is highly prevalent in Australia.

If people would actually look at the aftermath of their knee jerking you would see that the murder rate in Australia has run at around 1.8 per 100,000 for a very long time and that that has not changed by scape goating and victimising a large minority of its citizens, it has even spiked higher at times since 1996.

The homicide by firearm rate was on a steady decline for the previous 25 years before 1996, but has definitely dropped further since the buyback, although people have just found other means of killing each other.

So as some bloke once said "Dont piss down my back and tell me its rainin".

This thread was 2 pages down the line, if you people would leave it alone it would disappear out of sight forever. When I saw it reapear it was like a zit, just has to be squeezed...
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 15, 2008, 03:59:22 AM
  :lol Ignorance is bliss.

? Tracing your roots to your convict heritage is a national pastime in australia.  They have to import kiwi's to make the rest of the world think aussies still honest hard working blokes. Australia constantly has to grab kiwiana to make itself look presentable. Go to Brisbane and you'll find half the hot strippers are from Whangarei and Auckland. Need I mention, Russell Crowe (next you'll tell me all the Crowe's that were in the Blak Caps were Aussies too), Pavlova, Phar Lap, Split Enz (why do you think they had eNZ in the name you stupid aussies) and so on. You lot even thought Footrot Flats was an aussie cartoon strip and still believe John Clarke (aka Fred Dagg) is an Aussie!
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 15, 2008, 04:08:49 AM
God gave them sheep 'cos you can't shear boiling mud :lol
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 04:11:52 AM
? Tracing your roots to your convict heritage is a national pastime in australia.  They have to import kiwi's to make the rest of the world think aussies still honest hard working blokes. Australia constantly has to grab kiwiana to make itself look presentable. Go to Brisbane and you'll find half the hot strippers are from Whangarei and Auckland. Need I mention, Russell Crowe (next you'll tell me all the Crowe's that were in the Blak Caps were Aussies too), Pavlova, Phar Lap, Split Enz (why do you think they had eNZ in the name you stupid aussies) and so on. You lot even thought Footrot Flats was an aussie cartoon strip and still believe John Clarke (aka Fred Dagg) is an Aussie!
Lol All of those great Kiwis you have mentioned have one thing in common like the rest of the imports to Australia from New Zealand there just here for the dollar. Since Australian dole cheques convert to what ?? 10 times more. 
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 15, 2008, 04:19:21 AM
Why are Kiwi women so good in bed?












They have to compete with the sheep :lol
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 04:33:00 AM
What do you call a New Zealander with 100 girl friends?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              A Shepherd.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Excel1 on July 15, 2008, 05:03:40 AM
What do you call a New Zealander with 100 girl friends?




a charitable kiwi living in australia






how can you tell if an aussie is level headed?




he will be dribbling out of both sides of his mouth






Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 15, 2008, 05:38:47 AM
A Kiwi walks into the local unemployment office, marches straight up to the counter and says, "Hi! I hate being on welfare, I'd really rather have a job."

The clerk behind the Centrelink desk says, "Your timing is excellent. We just got a job opening from a very wealthy old man who wants a chauffeur/bodyguard for his nymphomaniac daughter. You'll have to drive around in his Mercedes, but he'll supply all of your clothes.

Because of the long hours, meals will be provided. You'll be expected to escort her on her overseas holiday trips. You'll have a two-bedroom apartment above the garage.

The starting salary is $200,000 a year".

The Kiwi says, "You're bull$h1tting me!"

The Centrelink officer says, "Yeah, well, you started it".
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: -tronski- on July 15, 2008, 05:57:38 AM
 Ha!

There's a Kiwi, an Aussie and a beautiful woman sitting next to each other on a train.
The train enters a tunnel and everything gets dark.
Suddenly there is a kissing sound and then a slap. The woman and the Aussie are sitting there looking confused while the Kiwi is bent over holding his face which is red from an apparent slap.
The Kiwi is thinking "That Australian must have tried to kiss this lady, she thought it was me and slapped me."
The woman is thinking "That Kiwi must have moved to kiss me and kissed the Australian instead and got slapped."
The Aussie is thinking to himself "If this train goes through another tunnel, I could make another kissing sound and slap that bloody Kiwi in the head again."

 Tronsky

btw Vulcan...you guys can keep Russell Crowe  :aok
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 06:55:59 AM
Kiwi family arrives in Australia.
Son's first day at school and the father say's
"OK son what happened at school today"
"I topped the class at Math's today".
"Well son thats because your a New zealander"

Second day at school and the father say's
"what happened at school today"
"I topped class in English"
"Well son thats because your a New zealander".

Third day at school and the father say's
"What happened at school today"
"We played mini Rugby and after the game we were in the shower's and I noticed that I had a bigger wasser than all the other boys"

"Is that because I am a New zealander Dad".

"No son" the father relied "that's because your 27".


Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Pei on July 15, 2008, 07:00:11 AM
btw Vulcan...you guys can keep Russell Crowe  :aok

Nothing can be done to Russell to make his situation worse - he's already a Souths fan...
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 15, 2008, 08:54:37 AM
xasthur..  I see.. so long as it is something you don't care about then it is ok for you to vote to take it away from those who do?   the majority always rules right?  unless the government wants to rule of course...

again..your murder rate didn't change when you gave up your guns like hysterical old women..  ours did change.. the more guns we have the lower it goes.

so "lets crunch those numbers" 

you never had any murders cause you don't have any diversity except for the natives you have oppressed for centuries.

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 15, 2008, 09:11:26 AM
Lazs now I'm normally pretty good with your posts, but that's just plain weird.
Our murder rate really didn't change much (one particular city in our country does hold the highest murder per capita rate in the world! :O ), but our violent crime rate did.
That's all I'm going to say.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 15, 2008, 09:27:38 AM
Lazs2 "you never had any murders cause you don't have any diversity except for the natives you have oppressed for centuries."   :rolleyes:

I know better and I shouldn't ask, but what the hell does that mean.
I guess its not like the American Indians where oppressed or anything, and Australia has a very diverse population of European and Asian decent, not to many Africans though.
 
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Xasthur on July 15, 2008, 09:50:45 AM
xasthur..  I see.. so long as it is something you don't care about then it is ok for you to vote to take it away from those who do?   the majority always rules right?  unless the government wants to rule of course...

again..your murder rate didn't change when you gave up your guns like hysterical old women..  ours did change.. the more guns we have the lower it goes.

so "lets crunch those numbers" 

you never had any murders cause you don't have any diversity except for the natives you have oppressed for centuries.

lazs

You'll find that I did not vote either way. I've said it to you before, your gun lust forces you to have guns.... I completely understand that. Guns were never so wide-spread here, the circumstances are not the same. Australia does not have the same attitude toward gun ownership as you do nor did we ever have the sheer volume of weaponry. What works for us will almost definitely not work for you. I've said this to you before.

If you government is too bloody stupid to realise that.... well, that's your problem mate.

Australia is supposed to be one of the most 'multi-cultural' places in the world, so don't give us that "you've got not cultural diversity to cause tension" because that is a complete load of bullchit. Tell that to friends of mine that have had their heads kicked in by gangs of Asians and had parties crashed by hordes of ethnics. Because those f-ks didn't have guns only a few people got stabbed and lived to tell the tale.

You didn't catch the Cronulla riots at all? People were bashed and stabbed but no one was shot and IIRC no one died.

You're a long way wide of the mark on this one, mate.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 15, 2008, 12:04:18 PM
Aussies never change....

(http://pressmart.net/blog/uploaded_images/1981Underarm-729970.jpg)
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Curval on July 15, 2008, 12:41:22 PM
Lazs would never let a *fact* get in the way of a good gun rant.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 15, 2008, 02:39:38 PM
you guys need to spend some time in the US in any populated area to see what real "diversity" is..  our gangs are diversity personified.. we have gangs of every ethnic group.

We have riots here too.. the people who don't get stabbed or beaten are the ones who have and use firearms.. you can do as you please..  If there is a riot I prefer to be armed.   If I confront a bad guy.. I prefer to be armed.

the only difference is that I have the choice.. as do Americans who dislike guns or have some deep seated fear of them..  they do not have to own guns if they don't want to.   this seems very fair to me..  let the person make the individual choice.

I know you guys think that you have a diverse population but you don't...  In our country one race commits over half the homicides and violent crime even tho they are a very small minority...  I you had them in your population then maybe I would listen to you and your point..   

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Curval on July 15, 2008, 02:52:30 PM
...and you are lecturing the Austrailians...why?  Stick to the US...it is something you actually know something about.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 15, 2008, 03:25:40 PM
 Although I don't agree with the absolute BS laws pertaining to firearms in Australia in the slightest, I would not feel compelled to want to carry a firearm pretty much any where I went, except whilst hunting or at the range.

Whether you believe it or not Australia has a Diverse Population, its just that most of them are more interested in running their restaurant and getting their kids an education, even the illegals.
Diverse does not mean different gangs fighting for their patch(although that does happen, just not on the scale of the US), but different cultures living together.
Hell someone has to pay the taxes for all the Kiwis on the Dole.

I have been to the US and spent time there, have even driven across the country, several times.
The minority that is causing all of your problems is just that, your problem, if you feel that you need to carry a gun, then by all means do.
But don't go thinking everyones boat floats the same.
As far as I'm concerned, nowadays I just do as I always have, just keep off the radar is all.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 15, 2008, 04:39:01 PM
Why can't Kiwi's take their girlfriends to the Rugby?








They eat all the grass. :D
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Excel1 on July 15, 2008, 08:29:48 PM
(http://pressmart.net/blog/uploaded_images/1981Underarm-729970.jpg)
lol, thnx vulcan i almost forgot about that

to quote rob muldoon:

"it was an act of cowardice and i consider it appropiate the australian team were wearing yellow"

a few more pearls from the great kiwi prime minister:

"New Zealand was colonised initially by those Australians who had the initiative to escape"

"New Zealanders who emigrate to Australia raise the IQ of both countries."
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 11:07:25 PM
Aussies never change....

(http://pressmart.net/blog/uploaded_images/1981Underarm-729970.jpg)
He was just bowling him a ball he could hit. We all know over arm is a little hard for the Kiwis.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 11:12:52 PM


I know you guys think that you have a diverse population but you don't...  In our country one race commits over half the homicides and violent crime even tho they are a very small minority...  I you had them in your population then maybe I would listen to you and your point..   

lazs
[/quote] We do have THEM as you would put it. Just FYI. So maybe you will listen now?
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: -tronski- on July 16, 2008, 03:58:30 AM
Diversity = a minority that commits half of all the crime???

Lazs would never let a *fact* get in the way of a good gun rant.

I think Curval got it right...

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 16, 2008, 04:14:57 AM
An Australian ventriloquist visiting New Zealand walks into a Small village and sees a local sitting on his veranda patting his dog.

He figures he'll have a little fun, so he says to the Kiwi

'G'day, mind if I talk to your dog?'
Villager: 'The dog doesn't talk, you stupid Aussie.'
Ventriloquist: 'Hello dog, how's it going mate?'
Dog: 'Yeah, doin' all right.'
Kiwi: (look of extreme shock)

Ventriloquist: 'Is this villager your owner?' (Pointing at the Villager)
Dog: 'Yep'

Ventriloquist: 'How does he treat you?'
Dog: 'Yeah, real good. He walks me twice a day, feeds me great food and takes me to the lake once a week to play.'
Kiwi: (look of utter disbelief)

Ventriloquist: 'Mind if I talk to your horse?'
Kiwi: 'Uh, the horse doesn't talk either...I think.'
Ventriloquist: 'Hey horse, how's it going?'
Horse: 'Cool'

Kiwi: (absolutely dumbfounded)
Ventriloquist: 'Is this your owner?' (Pointing at the villager)
Horse: 'Yep'
Ventriloquist: How does he treat you?
Horse: 'Pretty good, thanks for asking. He rides me regularly, Brushes me down often and keeps me in the shed to protect me from the Elements.'
Kiwi: (total look of amazement)

Ventriloquist: 'Mind if I talk to your sheep?'
Kiwi: (in a panic) 'The sheep's a f*****' liar……'
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 16, 2008, 08:40:35 AM
LOL.. shaark at least makes sense.. the rest of you?

Let's follow your logic.. you use the US crime rate and compare it to yours in order to show how you need to take guns away from your people..   You use democracy to justify it.. doesn't matter if you take away rights so long as the majority agrees right?

Then.. when confronted with the fact that your homicide rate has not changed but that ours has gone down.. you ignore it.

When told that you don't have the kind of diversity that we do.. you point to a small population of ethnic people who are so outnumbered and have an immigration policy that is one of the strictest in the world and say... see... we are diverse.

what would happen if you had a population that was made up of almost half your population being one minority or another.. maybe with two or three main ones?  do you not think that there would be a tipping point at some point?

then.. your logic takes a real leap..  you say that you don't need guns because.. well.. you are simply a better population than America..    which is most likely true to a certain extent but then..  why take away the guns?    If you are such model citizens why would you need to?  why not just let everyone decide if they want to have em or not?   you had one incident did you not?   you reacted like hysterical old women.

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 16, 2008, 10:43:08 AM
On a tour of Australia, the Pope took a few days off to visit the coast for some sightseeing.

He was cruising along the beach in the Pope-mobile when there was a frantic commotion just off shore. A helpless man, wearing an All Black rugby jersey, was struggling frantically to free himself from the jaws of a 25 foot shark. As the Pope watched in horror, a speedboat pulled up with three men wearing Wallabies rugby jerseys.

One quickly fired a harpoon into the sharks side while the other two reached out and pulled the blue semiconscious Kiwi fan from the water. Then, using long clubs, the three beat the shark to death and hauled it into the boat.

Immediately the Pope shouted and summoned them to him.

"I give you my blessing for your brave actions. I heard that there were some bitter hatreds between Australian and NZ rugby fans, but now I have seen with my own eyes that this is not true."

As the Pope drove off, the harpooner asked his buddies,
"Who was that?"
"It was the Pope" one replied. "He is in direct contact with God and has access to all of God's wisdom."

"Well" the harpooner said,
"he may have access to God and his wisdom, but he doesn't know s**t about shark fishing. Is the bait holding up OK or do we need to get another one?"
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Xasthur on July 16, 2008, 12:14:30 PM
LOL.. shaark at least makes sense.. the rest of you?

Let's follow your logic.. you use the US crime rate and compare it to yours in order to show how you need to take guns away from your people..   You use democracy to justify it.. doesn't matter if you take away rights so long as the majority agrees right?

Then.. when confronted with the fact that your homicide rate has not changed but that ours has gone down.. you ignore it.

When told that you don't have the kind of diversity that we do.. you point to a small population of ethnic people who are so outnumbered and have an immigration policy that is one of the strictest in the world and say... see... we are diverse.

what would happen if you had a population that was made up of almost half your population being one minority or another.. maybe with two or three main ones?  do you not think that there would be a tipping point at some point?

then.. your logic takes a real leap..  you say that you don't need guns because.. well.. you are simply a better population than America..    which is most likely true to a certain extent but then..  why take away the guns?    If you are such model citizens why would you need to?  why not just let everyone decide if they want to have em or not?   you had one incident did you not?   you reacted like hysterical old women.

lazs

You've yet to provide any statistics that back up your claims.

Just because we don't have your over-publicised 'n-word' problem doesn't mean that there are not racial tensions here. You have 'n-word' and Hispanic gangs... we have Asian and ethnic gangs. Same chit, different smell.

Why take away the guns? Because it works. People are idiots and idiots with guns is never a good thing.

Like I keep saying, Australia doesn't need guns and we're doing better than you guys are without them. Your country is completely different and our policies would not work there. The sooner you understand that, the better. Enough with 'hysterical old women' nonsense. You have fun with your NRA meetings and your pro-gun lobbying and we'll just carry on with what works. How about that?

Comparing Australia to America is oversimplifying to say the very least. We speak the same language but we are very different people with very different attitudes and circumstances. Your gun debates have no place here.

[edit] My apologies if this seems a little blunt or harsh. I'm just tired of some of the nonsense that has been thrown around in this thread. I'm not particularly attached to this country but some of the watermelon in here is enough irritate me.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 16, 2008, 03:22:11 PM
xasthur..  no need to say your sorry.. I did not find what you say harsh at all..  blunt is good.

I did find it to be ignorant and irrelevant tho...  you claim that gun control works.. it stops homicide right?  yet.. it did no such thing. 

You are right to say that our countries are different..  you are saying that people are stupid so they should not be trusted with guns.. that seems about right.. we are a nation of individual rights tho and the exact oppossite of what you think..  that people can be stupid but government is always evil.. to be used in small doses.

Sorry to be so harsh but to me..  the truly stupid people are those who don't trust each other but love their government.

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 16, 2008, 04:02:09 PM
A bloke walks into a bar in New Zealand and orders a shandy. All the Kiwis sitting around the bar look up, expecting to see another visitor from the Northern Beaches of Sydney. The barman says, "You ain't from around here, are ya bro?"

The guy says, "No, I'm from Canada."

The bartender says, "What do you do in Canada?"

The guy says, "I'm a taxidermist."

The bartender says, "A tixidermist? What the hick is a tixidermist? Do you drive a tixi?"

"No, a taxidermist doesn't drive a taxi. I mount animals."

The bartender grins and yells, "It's okay boys. He's one of us."
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 16, 2008, 04:57:18 PM
Lazs, why are you still in this thread trying to change the topic? Go rant somewhere else.


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<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Xasthur on July 16, 2008, 09:57:08 PM
xasthur..  no need to say your sorry.. I did not find what you say harsh at all..  blunt is good.

I did find it to be ignorant and irrelevant tho...  you claim that gun control works.. it stops homicide right?  yet.. it did no such thing. 

You are right to say that our countries are different..  you are saying that people are stupid so they should not be trusted with guns.. that seems about right.. we are a nation of individual rights tho and the exact oppossite of what you think..  that people can be stupid but government is always evil.. to be used in small doses.

Sorry to be so harsh but to me..  the truly stupid people are those who don't trust each other but love their government.

lazs

I don't trust people with things that can kill me. That seems like a smart suspicion to have. I'll have to find some stats on it but I'm pretttyyy sure that people not having guns means that less people die.

I have no love for the government... particularly the current goverment, I voted 100% against them and did my best to warn people off Rudd. I don't see how my not trusting people suggests in any way that I must love my government.



Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 16, 2008, 11:05:36 PM
What's geographically wrong with New Zealand?




It's above sea level
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 16, 2008, 11:52:49 PM
What's geographically wrong with New Zealand?


It's above sea level

Above sea level, why your jealous, most of Aus is arid desert below/at sea level with 98% of the population live on 2% of the land mass.  :lol

Of course it's this barren remote landscape that brought me here in the first place for rides like the Simpson desert,Gibb River Road,Cape York,Ningaloo Reef,Gunbarrel Highway and Canning Stock Route..

I might just need to quit work for a year or two to cover it all. :D



<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 17, 2008, 02:42:58 AM
Chain of Ponds In Adelaide is an awesome ride too :D
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 17, 2008, 02:49:37 AM
why your jealous, most of Aus is arid desert below/at sea level with 98% of the population live on 2% of the land mass.  :lol

<S>...-Gixer

Smart way to keep the illegals out IMO. They will starve or die of thirst before reaching the next town. :eek: :rofl
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 17, 2008, 03:39:59 AM
Hell yeah! :rock
Go the Aussie outback!
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Excel1 on July 17, 2008, 08:10:11 AM
I don't trust people with things that can kill me. That seems like a smart suspicion to have. I'll have to find some stats on it but I'm pretttyyy sure that people not having guns means that less people die.

hmm hard to know if your'e kidding, but...

i don't think the blacks in darfur would agree with you. they had their guns confiscated (with un sponsorship) leaving them pretty well defenceless, only to be slaughtered or driven out of their homelands by the sudanese government with their shiny new chinese made ak47s.

i think you attitude is insular and and counter to the basic premise of individual rights, but even aside from that, gun control is a global debate and a stance taken on it one way or the other at a national level can have global implications. the un has seen to that with it's push for a global ban on the illicit transnational trading of small arms, which might on the surface sound like a good thing but feel good trendy coffee shop intentions usually have little relevance in the real world. under their vision for a perfect gun controlled world only governments or organizations sponsored by governments would by international law be allowed to trade in and ultimately posses small arms. and as far as i'm aware the un categorises small arms right down to handguns. non state actors (that's the blacks in darfur and you and me sport) wold be watermelon out of luck and relying on the un to ride to our rescue if our governments got uppity, just like they have in bosnia, darfur.. 



Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lazs2 on July 17, 2008, 08:22:34 AM
gixer.. fine but look around.. I am not the only one not staying on topic.. I am, at this point just replying to some of the more ignorant posts...  as are some others.

I will stay out of this thread. 

lazs
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 17, 2008, 08:24:25 AM
I don't trust people with things that can kill me. That seems like a smart suspicion to have. I'll have to find some stats on it but I'm pretttyyy sure that people not having guns means that less people die.

I have no love for the government... particularly the current goverment, I voted 100% against them and did my best to warn people off Rudd. I don't see how my not trusting people suggests in any way that I must love my government.

The amount of items that can be used to kill a person is only limited by another's imagination.  The availability of guns, knives, cars and feathers will not really stop a person from killing.  It'll only stop them from shooting, stabbing, crushing and tickling to death.  Dead is dead.  I'm pretty sure a dead person really doesn't care if he was shot or what have you.

The truth is that you don't trust other people.  You don't trust other people because you actually don't trust yourself.  It's called projection.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 17, 2008, 08:32:48 AM
An Australian was walking down a country road in New Zealand, when he happened to glance over the fence and see a farmer goin' at it with a sheep.

The Aussie is quite taken aback by this, so he climbs the fence and walks over to the farmer.

He taps him on the shoulder and says, "You know mate, back home, we shear those!"

The New Zealander looks frantically around and says, "I'm not bloody SHEARING this with no one!"
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Sharrk on July 17, 2008, 09:57:31 AM

Holy Crap SD67, you got a book full of those or somethin. :rofl

Gixer just wondering what you do your rides on ?
Done quite a few miles up and down the east coast meself, top to bottom. Need some serious time to do it all though..
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 17, 2008, 04:14:21 PM
No effort will be spared to keep this thread firmly directed at poking fun at the Kiwis.
:D
:salute
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 17, 2008, 05:46:35 PM
Gixer just wondering what you do your rides on ?
Done quite a few miles up and down the east coast meself, top to bottom. Need some serious time to do it all though..


I have a month in September other then having to spend 4 days in Brissy free to do what I want so looking at riding to the top of Cape York. Then next year Tassie. After that I might have to quit work to do centre and west. What do you ride?

Rides K3 Busa and a 07 KTM 990 Adv.  :D

(http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1132/3985165/18938532/310945754.jpg)

(http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1132/3985165/18938532/310946033.jpg)


<S>...-Gixer


Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Vulcan on July 17, 2008, 06:17:44 PM
No effort will be spared to keep this thread firmly directed at poking fun at the Kiwis.
:D
:salute

Says the 12 toed tasmanian.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 17, 2008, 06:26:24 PM
Says the 12 toed tasmanian.

Now that's funny.  :rofl


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: lyric1 on July 17, 2008, 07:35:44 PM
Now that's funny.  :rofl


<S>...-Gixer

I always thought the in breeding in Tasmania was stopped when they kicked them all out & they immigrated to NZ?  God only knows how many toes they have now.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Gixer on July 17, 2008, 07:54:36 PM
I always thought the in breeding in Tasmania was stopped when they kicked them all out & they immigrated to NZ?  God only knows how many toes they have now.

They could only swim as far as the Aussie mainland. No recorded history of any survivors ever making it to New Zealand. Plus anything that couldn't fly away fast enough was eaten to extinction by the maoris.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 17, 2008, 10:29:31 PM
Three Kiwis and three Aussies are travelling by train to a rugby game. At the station, the three Kiwis each buy a ticket and watch with bewilderment as the three Aussiesbuy only a single ticket between them.

"How are three people going to travel on only one ticket?" asks a Kiwi.

"Watch and you’ll see", answers the Aussie.

They all board the train. The Kiwis take their respective seats but all three Aussies cram into a toilet and close the door behind them. Shortly after the train has departed, the conductor comes around collecting tickets. He knocks on the toilet door and says, "Ticket please". The door opens just a crack and a single arm emerges with a ticket in hand. The conductor takes it and moves on.

The Kiwis see this and agree it was quite a clever plan. So after the game, the Kiwis decide to copy the Aussies on the return trip and save some money, (being clever with money and all that).

When they get to the station, they buy a single ticket for their return trip. To their astonishment, the Aussies don’t buy a ticket at all. "How are you going to travel ‘without’ a ticket?" asks one perplexed Kiwi. "Watch and you’ll see", answers a Aussie. When they board the train, the three Kiwis cram into a toilet and the Aussies cram into another nearby. The train departs. Shortly afterwards, one of the Aussies leaves and walks over to the toilet where the Kiwis are hiding.

He knocks on the door and says, "Tickets please"!!!!!
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Xasthur on July 17, 2008, 10:39:08 PM
hmm hard to know if your'e kidding, but...

i don't think the blacks in darfur would agree with you. they had their guns confiscated (with un sponsorship) leaving them pretty well defenceless, only to be slaughtered or driven out of their homelands by the sudanese government with their shiny new chinese made ak47s.

i think you attitude is insular and and counter to the basic premise of individual rights, but even aside from that, gun control is a global debate and a stance taken on it one way or the other at a national level can have global implications. the un has seen to that with it's push for a global ban on the illicit transnational trading of small arms, which might on the surface sound like a good thing but feel good trendy coffee shop intentions usually have little relevance in the real world. under their vision for a perfect gun controlled world only governments or organizations sponsored by governments would by international law be allowed to trade in and ultimately posses small arms. and as far as i'm aware the un categorises small arms right down to handguns. non state actors (that's the blacks in darfur and you and me sport) wold be watermelon out of luck and relying on the un to ride to our rescue if our governments got uppity, just like they have in bosnia, darfur.. 

I've said this about 3 times in this thread but I'll say it again.... I am entirely aware that gun policies are not a good idea for everyone. Even in America it would not be a good idea, there are simply too many guns. Australia never reached the extent of public arms as America has, if I am not mistaken.

The fact of the matter is that gun control has worked in Australia. We have a very low gun-murder rate compared to countries with widespread gun ownership.

Like I said, I do not advocate this for everyone, I speak only for Australia.
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Xasthur on July 17, 2008, 10:54:27 PM
The truth is that you don't trust other people.  You don't trust other people because you actually don't trust yourself.  It's called projection.

That's quite a logical leap you're operating under there. Spare me your 'Dr. Phil approved' psychoanalysis, please.


The amount of items that can be used to kill a person is only limited by another's imagination.  The availability of guns, knives, cars and feathers will not really stop a person from killing.  It'll only stop them from shooting, stabbing, crushing and tickling to death.  Dead is dead.  I'm pretty sure a dead person really doesn't care if he was shot or what have you

Another leap... Who ever said that gun control will restrict the desire to kill? No one here and I'm pretty sure that no one has ever been so foolish. Making it harder for people to access guns simply makes it harder for people to actually kill other people. It doesn't decrease their desire to kill it just makes it hard for them to act out this desire.

Killing someone with a knife is much more difficult than doing so with a projectile weapon from a distance. A stabbing is much more personal and requires a stronger conviction than to just pull the trigger from across the room. It's also easier to survive a stabbing than it is to survive a gunshot wound.

Refer to my above post, I don't propose that America takes your guns away as that would be the height of stupidity. You guys NEED guns, I'm on your side.

We are different and we don't need them. I don't know why you're arguing with me.

 :salute
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: Torque on July 18, 2008, 01:39:02 AM
so... like does santa claus come down the chimmey in a spedo?
Title: Re: Bl**dy Aussies
Post by: SD67 on July 18, 2008, 04:49:58 AM
An Aussie bloke is having a quiet drink in a bar and leans over to the big guy next to him and says, 'Do you wanna hear a Kiwi joke?

The big guy replies, 'Well mate, before you tell that joke, you should know something. I'm 1.90 m tall, 125 kg and I played as a forward for the All Blacks."

"The guy next to me is 1.85 m, weighs 115 kg and he's an ex-All Black lock."

"Next to him is a bloke who's 2 m tall, weighs 120 kg and he's a current All Black second rower. Now do you still want to tell that Kiwi joke?"

The first bloke says, "Nah, not if I'm going to have to explain it three times."