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Title: The Dark Knight
Post by: Raptor on July 18, 2008, 02:39:36 AM
The Dark Knight was amazing! Keith Ledger did an astounding performance as The Joker. He did the crazy aspect of it perfectly, I was truely impressed.
I don't believe there will be another Batman movie though, I felt they wrapped it up at the end of the second film. Not to mention there aren't really any good Villians left. Possibly 'The Riddler' but that's the only possibility considering these new movies were much more believable than the original.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: evenhaim on July 18, 2008, 03:20:37 AM
I heard the same from a friend, btw its heath  :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: B17Skull12 on July 18, 2008, 05:52:38 AM
it was the best one yet imo.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Meatwad on July 18, 2008, 07:05:56 AM
Watch out, he always triumphs!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Fulmar on July 18, 2008, 09:05:04 AM
What are you talking about!  Let's get Michael Bay in there to direct and we'll put Halle Berry in there as Cat Woman!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: JunkyII on July 18, 2008, 09:57:05 AM
Not telling you any details but i suggest you all see it Heath Ledger left us with some great acting RIP HL :salute
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: BoilerDown on July 18, 2008, 09:59:37 AM
I saw it at midnight... only bad thing was it was a distraction for me knowing HL is dead while watching him act as the Joker.  I think it limited how immersed I allowed myself to get into the movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Engine on July 18, 2008, 10:58:56 AM
Why couldn't they make another? The villains in the Clooney/Kilmer Batman movies don't count, because those movies were tragedies and shouldn't be considered official Batman movies. This is like a totally new series... they could introduce a great Mr. Freeze in the next one. He's actually one of my favorite Batman villains, and no one does him right: he's not good or evil, all he cares about is his frozen wife.

I hate when villains show how 'evil' they are by killing someone for no reason, just so the audience knows they're the bad guy.

Henchman: I'm sorry Mr. Freeze, Batman got away! I won't let this happen again!
Mr. Freeze: I know it won't. Your assets have been... frozen. *pulls out ice-gun*
Henchman: Noooooooo! *dies*
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Maverick on July 18, 2008, 12:32:52 PM
Assuming the Joker dies, this makes the second batman movie he died in. Since he got resurected for this one there is nothing prohibiting him from coming back for the next one, using a different actor of course.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Fulmar on July 18, 2008, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: Maverick on July 18, 2008, 12:32:52 PM
Assuming the Joker dies, this makes the second batman movie he died in. Since he got resurected for this one there is nothing prohibiting him from coming back for the next one, using a different actor of course.
I wouldn't say he was resurrected since this line of Batman movies has little in common with the Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Batman & Robin & Batgirl & Batdog.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Maverick on July 18, 2008, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: Fulmar on July 18, 2008, 12:42:21 PM
I wouldn't say he was resurrected since this line of Batman movies has little in common with the Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Batman & Robin & Batgirl & Batdog.
It's the same character. He can't die in two different movies in different times and have a logical progression. Now you explain how he could be in two different movies when he dies in each one. BTW it was sarcasm directed at the movie industry.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Steve on July 18, 2008, 11:40:52 PM
Quote from: evenhaim on July 18, 2008, 03:20:37 AM
I heard the same from a friend, btw its heath  :)

It's truly as well.. if you are going to be picky,  :)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on July 19, 2008, 12:10:31 AM
Well, i hear christian bale will be playing john connor in the next three terminator movies.

Perhaps he will play batman between terminator movies, wow..talk about a character complex.

"im batman, im john connor, no wait..im batman..wait.."

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1411553024/tt0438488


man, cant wait.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: rpm on July 19, 2008, 12:27:46 AM
No good villian characters left? Hello....The Penguin?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Raptor on July 19, 2008, 03:27:41 AM
Quote from: evenhaim on July 18, 2008, 03:20:37 AM
I heard the same from a friend, btw its heath  :)
Yeah... posting at 3:30 was probably a bad idea, can't believe I made that mistake.

The new batman movies have a more believable aspect to them, although they aren't completely believable. The Penguin I can't see because man raised by Penguins doesn't really fit into the new movie characteristics. The other villians seemed to be mutants.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Engine on July 19, 2008, 09:33:13 AM
Yep, after seeing it, I agree that none of the outlandish silly villains (Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, Penguin) will work in the new Batman series. Problem is, I can't think of any more believable, somewhat-realistic villains they could use.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Maverick on July 19, 2008, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: rpm on July 19, 2008, 12:27:46 AM
No good villian characters left? Hello....The Penguin?

Uh HELLO! The penguin died in an earlier batman movie. Remember the missile toting penguins. Danny Devito was the artic bird.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: rpm on July 19, 2008, 12:47:22 PM
Mav, I'm speaking of the latest series of films. Like Engine said, the earlier films don't really count. This is a reinvention of the character and storyline.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Dichotomy on July 19, 2008, 02:25:02 PM
I just got back from seeing it.  Wouldn't recommend it for anyone younger than 13 but I have to say I'm impressed and will definitely buy it on DVD when it comes out. HL did a fantastic job.   
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 19, 2008, 03:53:19 PM
Maverick,

Batman Begins/Dark Knight, as has been stated, are a completely new continuity. They have nothing to do with the earlier films.

Think of it this way:

The Daniel Craig's James Bond in Casino Royale is NOT the same James Bond that Connery, Lazenby and Moore played (these three all had continuity, including the mention in The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only of Bond's wife, killed by Blofeld in OHMSS).

Also, the Penguin as a deformed mutant was ENTIRELY the invention of Tim Burton. The original Penguin was actually one of the most "normal" (physically and mentally) of the major Batman villains.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Dichotomy on July 19, 2008, 11:42:36 PM
spoiler the joker pencil trick gif (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/dichotomy/jokerpenciltrick.gif)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 20, 2008, 01:28:29 AM
The Tim Burton Batman was on ABC Family tonight. Nicholson's Joker is like night and day next to Ledger's. Ledger tapped into something very twisted for his performance, but from what I know of the history of the series this is the closest anyone has come to portraying the Joker as he appeared in the early days of the comics. He created a character that will be remembered in 5-10 years in the same breath as Hopkins' performance as Hannibal Lektor as the greatest villains of the modern era of film.

Whoever is called upon to fill the role in the next movie (let's face it, there WILL be one) is just not going to be the same.

I honestly left the theater a little depressed and disturbed. This is a dark, DARK movie. It's not just physically exhausting but psychologically as well. Much of it is owed to Ledger's Joker, but I think Nolan from the start had no intention other than ripping out the heart of the audience.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: RATTFINK on July 20, 2008, 01:48:20 PM
I saw it last night :D 

Batman Begins/Dark Knight make the others look like half star B movies.

TNT is playing nothing but Batman movies today... and they are all the sucky ones.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Selino631 on July 20, 2008, 02:02:25 PM
Quote from: rpm on July 19, 2008, 12:27:46 AM
No good villian characters left? Hello....The Penguin?
  :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Selino631 on July 20, 2008, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Fulmar on July 18, 2008, 12:42:21 PM
I wouldn't say he was resurrected since this line of Batman movies has little in common with the Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Batman & Robin & Batgirl & Batdog.
hey you forgot Batman & Robin Meets Scooby Doo!!
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Simaril on July 20, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
Ledger with a great performance, twitchy and frightening (in a Hannibal Lector way!). Wish they hadn't dealt out another solid bad guy in this movie though...especially since Ledger's great performance might make it impossible for anyone else to step in.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: SirLoin on July 20, 2008, 08:49:24 PM
it was a great movie...2.5 hours seemed to cut it off too soon.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Raptor on July 20, 2008, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: SirLoin on July 20, 2008, 08:49:24 PM
it was a great movie...2.5 hours seemed to cut it off too soon.
I thought if they left Harvy Dent with the scene With Gordon in the Hospital when he asked "what was that name they called me in precinct?" It would have left for a good third movie, Aaron Eckhart could have done an entire film as Two Face. They did a good job developing his character. However seeing The Joker come out of the hospital in the nurse's outfit was a great image.

One of my friends is really into comic books and he told me how the new batman series is more like the original comic books than the original movies could have ever dreamed. He was particularly impressed with the inclusion of characters that were notorious sexual offenders and things of that nature in Batman Begins. If the comic book villians weren't as unbelievable as the Tim Burton movies, then I think there can be a sequel. However as many others have already said, following up Ledger's performance will be near impossible. His laugh is even nerve wracking.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 20, 2008, 11:51:38 PM
I remember that, shortly before his death,Ledger mentioned in an interview how he was troubled and depressed by the character and had trouble sleeping. I was talking with my brother-in-law about this earlier today, and it really makes you wonder if Ledger tapped into something for the role that couldn't be put back again.

I've heard similar remarks by other actors who have taken a the same approach and really get into the heads of their characters, and had some problems with readjusting again.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: BaldEagl on July 21, 2008, 01:58:30 AM
Quote from: Raptor on July 18, 2008, 02:39:36 AM
...considering these new movies were much more believable than the original.

You mean the   *BANG*   *POW*   originals or the beginning of the re-makes/updates?
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: zoozoo on July 21, 2008, 06:46:36 AM
GREAT MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joker was amazing :aok :aok :aok :aok 5 stars!!!!!!  :rock :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: soda72 on July 21, 2008, 04:50:44 PM

very good movie..

 :aok
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: RATTFINK on July 21, 2008, 04:53:53 PM
Dark night, there is no light
In the realm of the black magic man
Soul's flight into the cold blight
Of the destroyer's magic land
Poor man, whose spirits are stronger
They're a little too weary
You're starting to...

Blind man, you're suckin' your own blood
Soon black magic's dying
You'd better start crying
Blind man, you're suckin' your own blood
Soon black magic's dying
You'd better start crying

Throw out your evil desire
The dark king's kingdom is
Made out of mire

Throw out your evil desire
The dark king's kingdom is
Made out of mire

Keep on for the kingdom of light
There is no darkness, there is no night


http://youtube.com/watch?v=nDNXCIQyd04


That should have been on the soundtrack
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: SirLoin on July 21, 2008, 09:30:02 PM
Quote from: Raptor on July 20, 2008, 10:20:14 PM
They did a good job developing his character. However seeing The Joker come out of the hospital in the nurse's outfit was a great image.


It's a good thing they developed Two-Face's charactor..cause the Joker is ded for good.

RIP Joker
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 21, 2008, 10:49:18 PM
I doubt that, SirLoin, they'll find someone.

Johnny Depp is the easiest one that comes to mind. My only concern with that is Depp's characters are quirky, but they never carry the same psychotic menace that Ledger brought to the Joker, which is what's need.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: rpm on July 21, 2008, 11:23:26 PM
There are plenty of Villians that Depp could play...

Black Mask

Calendar Man

Catman (would make a nice tie-in with Catwoman)

Clayface

Deadshot

The Mad Hatter (I could really see Depp in this role)

Scarface

The list goes on and on... Johnny Depp excells in playing quirky characters and this series is full of them.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: trax1 on July 21, 2008, 11:29:16 PM
Right now the movie is ranked #1 on IMDB.com's top 250 list, it has a 9.6/10 rating with almost 70,000 votes.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: BaldEagl on July 21, 2008, 11:35:50 PM
Quote from: Saxman on July 21, 2008, 10:49:18 PM
My only concern with that is Depp's characters are quirky, but they never carry the same psychotic menace that Ledger brought to the Joker, which is what's need.

I don't know... he was pretty good in the Demon Barber of Fleet Street.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 22, 2008, 12:02:04 AM
Quote from: rpm on July 21, 2008, 11:23:26 PM
There are plenty of Villians that Depp could play...

Black Mask

Calendar Man

Catman (would make a nice tie-in with Catwoman)

Clayface

Deadshot

The Mad Hatter (I could really see Depp in this role)

Scarface

The list goes on and on... Johnny Depp excells in playing quirky characters and this series is full of them.

rpm,

The problem with many Batman villains is that they just wouldn't work in the atmosphere Nolan has created. This all but certainly eliminates the Riddler, at least as a MAIN villain. I can see them using Penguin as a small role. Most recently in the comics he's actually a source of information for Batman. However Nolan has already said that Penguin and Catwoman are almost certainly NOT going to appear.

Eagle,

I never saw that, but was wondering about it when I thought about Depp filling Ledger's place.

Another interesting thought would be Robert Downey Jr.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: uptown on July 22, 2008, 12:03:46 AM
The Joker is a gay cowboy?  :huh
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: rpm on July 22, 2008, 12:11:32 AM
Sax, I searched the entire list of Batman villians and those were the ones that had Johnny Depp stamped on them. If they continue to follow the dark side of the series, any of the villians I listed would fit. Black Mask, Mad Hatter and Scarface are the top 3 on my list, whether Depp plays them or not. They are the darkest villians of the series.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: rpm on July 22, 2008, 12:12:33 AM
Quote from: uptown on July 22, 2008, 12:03:46 AM
The Joker is a gay cowboy?  :huh
I don't see BrokeBat Mountain anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Scherf on July 22, 2008, 12:49:00 AM
Damn movie was about 1/3 too long.

"Kee-rist, get it over with..." Joker was good - but some are talking about a posthumous Oscar down here. Ledger's Joker is good, but it's no "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna TAKE it anymore!"
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: angelsandair on July 22, 2008, 01:30:30 AM
I saw it in IMAX


And first thing I could saw about the picture itself is WOW! The screen is about 3 or 4 times the size of a regular movie screen. If you do see The Dark Knight, see it in IMAX, it's worth it.  :rock :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: moot on July 22, 2008, 03:29:07 AM
Too bad this movie didn't happen sooner.  The guys doing the watchmen probably could have gotten away with a rendering closer to the book.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 22, 2008, 09:11:05 AM
Quote from: Scherf on July 22, 2008, 12:49:00 AM
Damn movie was about 1/3 too long.

"Kee-rist, get it over with..." Joker was good - but some are talking about a posthumous Oscar down here. Ledger's Joker is good, but it's no "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna TAKE it anymore!"

I'd have to agree with this.  There were 3-4 solid times when I thought the movie was over, and then it just built back up.


I'd love to see a good Catwoman again.  Pfeifer did an amazing job.  Halle Barry did not.  The Catwoman should not be some sort of chaotic good woman.  She should be evil / crazed.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 22, 2008, 09:53:29 AM
Catwoman was a thief and burglar, not a killer, and the only psychotic version I remember is Pfeifer's in Batman Returns. She was NOT evil. In the comics she refused to join Bane after he crippled Batman and from the very beginning of the character she seemed intended as Batman's primary love interest (focusing on this angle I think could work as a minor subplot in the Nolan series).

So yes, laser, Catwoman IS "Chaotic Good."

However I will agree with you that Halle Berry's "performance" should be buried and never, ever spoken of again.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: soda72 on July 22, 2008, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: rpm on July 21, 2008, 11:23:26 PM
There are plenty of Villians that Depp could play...

Black Mask

Calendar Man

Catman (would make a nice tie-in with Catwoman)

Clayface

Deadshot

The Mad Hatter (I could really see Depp in this role)

Scarface

The list goes on and on... Johnny Depp excells in playing quirky characters and this series is full of them.

What about the Penguin?

Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Engine on July 22, 2008, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: moot on July 22, 2008, 03:29:07 AM
Too bad this movie didn't happen sooner.  The guys doing the watchmen probably could have gotten away with a rendering closer to the book.
Hrm? What do you mean?

I read it a long time ago and don't remember the story, but I do recall the awesome characters and atmosphere, and got very excited by the trailer. If it stays faithful this will be fantastic, but Hollywood is terrified of staying faithful to anything... God forbid they follow the story Tolkien wrote. It's not like he's hailed as one of the finest authors of modern times or anything.

Good choice of music in the Watchmen trailer, as well:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/watchmen/hd/
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 22, 2008, 10:05:45 AM
They've already said there's no plans to use the Penguin. At least not as a major villain.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: moot on July 22, 2008, 10:51:05 AM
Engine, in addition to the usual Hollywood wrist wringing (e.g. telegraphing major plot points rather than show the viewer the clues and letting him put it together, or avoiding open endedness or endings up for interpretations, which the watchmen definitely has a ton of and relies on), they've cut the pirate comic sidestory that's central to the plot and to giving the plot one more perspective to reflect off of, they said they've changed the ending (too gory? too un-PC?), and even the director is protesting the cuts being made to the film.

Nolan probably got freedom to push this second batman movie as far as he wanted because with the first one he showed he could successfuly pull off the darker, more adult rendering.  Not only does the Watchmen director seem likely to stray from the original comic at least a little by his own personal style like the Transformers director did (tho Snyder said he's inspiring/basing himself on some short film which Alan Moore helped make, details in the Watchmen movie wikipedia article) as you can see in the trailer, but there's also some things that leave very little room for error and that I reckon they're going to screw up....  E.g. the watchmen characters aren't up to artistic license as books' characters are, or as comic characters such as Batman which have been done lots of different ways by different authors/artists.  The comedian character is nowhere near buff enough in the movie even though it's an essential part of his personality, and personality, psychology, etc are one of the top few things that made it such a great story. 

Details like that, on top of all the classic "traduttore traditore" false notes in book/comic>movie adaptations, and on top of that the general Hollywood risk aversion in making a really authentic movie if it risks being too rude and violent...  I think the watchmen movie would have benefited from seeing this latest Dark Knight movie clear the way for another movie in the same line of uncompromising story and illustration...

I hope that's not too rambling a post, but at some point in quality of story telling and demonstrative art, it's as good and valuable to culture (and personaly) as any other major piece of art.. And the watchmen comics were that good.  It ought to be done justice to.  Looking at what they did to Vendetta....  It'd be a shame to pass up an opportunity to make a movie that doesn't take viewers for idiots and also kicks bellybutton visualy.  It could be one of those movies you can watch and still find really great 10-20 years later.  Like 2001, etc.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Xasthur on July 22, 2008, 11:25:42 AM
I'll see it at the cinema just because it looks like it will be epic but nothing beats a serious home-cinema system.

Even a regular DVD through a quality LCD tv is much sharper than a cinema screen.

Not to mention the fact that the beer fridge is within 5 meters, the seats are more comfortable and the food is of higher quality and not grossly overpriced.  :aok

I look forward to buying it on DVD or Blu-ray and watching it at home!  :D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Fulmar on July 22, 2008, 12:53:45 PM
Quote from: Xasthur on July 22, 2008, 11:25:42 AM
Even a regular DVD through a quality LCD tv is much sharper than a cinema screen.

Are we talking good old fashion film reels or digital projectors?  We have two competing theaters in town.  One has some digital projectors and the other doesn't.  If you've never seen a movie with the new projectors, it's worth it.  No more film grain etc.  Soooo much nicer.

I saw 300 on a digital projector and saw it again later at a budget cinema.  No comparison...
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 23, 2008, 07:02:46 PM
Just remembered.  The new bat suit made by Fox specifically said it could stand up to Cats.


If that's not a hint to who the next villain will be, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Jester on July 23, 2008, 08:42:27 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing something like BATMAN vs PREDATOR if the legalities could be worked out between studios.

(http://www.geocities.com/gunsandgod/comicpix/bvp.jpg)
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Jebus on July 23, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
But what about Robin?   Who is going to play Robin in the up coming films? :devil :devil
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Hangtime on July 23, 2008, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Jebus on July 23, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
But what about Robin?   Who is going to play Robin in the up coming films? :devil :devil

Andy Dick?

Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Jester on July 23, 2008, 10:41:05 PM
Quote from: Hangtime on July 23, 2008, 10:07:29 PM
Andy Dick?

ROFLMAO!   :rofl

Let's fervently hope & pray we have seen the last of the Boy Wonder.   :pray   GEEZE who the HELL ever came up with this idea!   :rolleyes:

I could go for a well played Batgirl though.   :D
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 23, 2008, 11:43:53 PM
Per Nolan, no Robin.

And Jester, I think Robin was created way back in 1938, and debuted the next issue of DC after Batman. So, you can blame the original creators. :rolleyes:

Batgirl would be sort of tough to do considering the age of Gordon's daughter in Dark Knight....

And I don't know what laser's continuing obsession with Catwoman as a MAIN villain is, because she's NOT. Historically she WAS more the anti-hero, even in Batman Returns which was the closest I've been able to find of her being a true hardcore villain. I can see her in a supporting role at first in conflict against but then siding WITH Batman against whoever they use for the next one, but she's NOT a heavy herself. I'd like to see her in the next one too, but in a role that actually fits the character.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Pooh21 on July 24, 2008, 02:25:25 AM
Quote from: Hangtime on July 23, 2008, 10:07:29 PM
Andy Dick?



Joker + crowbar+ Andy Dick as Jason Todd as Robin = WIN
as long as the poop is beaten out of him in a Brandon Lee like mishap, but with a crowbar instead of a gun.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: moot on July 24, 2008, 02:34:31 AM
Quote from: Jester on July 23, 2008, 08:42:27 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing something like BATMAN vs PREDATOR if the legalities could be worked out between studios.

(http://www.geocities.com/gunsandgod/comicpix/bvp.jpg)
I think they're already working on something like that, IIRC based on a comic called "team of superheroes" or something.  In the last superman I think you hear a newsbyte mention gotham.  The contrast of new babyface superman & new dark knight in the same movie would make for good script possibilities.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 24, 2008, 07:43:27 AM
From what I've read DC isn't being smart like Marvel and making a TRUE crossover. They're using an entirely new cast for the Justice League movie.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: moot on July 24, 2008, 07:52:12 AM
Which superhero league does hulk belong to?  I'm pretty sure I read that the team either him or Superman are in will happen and use the actors from their respective movies.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on July 24, 2008, 07:56:18 AM
Hulk is in the Avengers, I think. Marvel IS using the same actors (thus Downey's cameo in Hulk) for the Avenger movie. However DC has already stated they're NOT going to use the cast of Superman Returns and Batman Begins/Dark Knight, and are going a different direction with casting for Justice League. Now maybe this has changed from the last I heard on it, but afaik it's still the case.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: moot on July 24, 2008, 08:04:07 AM
That's a shame.  It doesn't bode well for continuing the improvement Batman's gotten with these last two flicks.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Jebus on July 24, 2008, 01:13:37 PM
My understanding of the movie League of Justice is they are going to be younger in age.  I believe the movie is going to have the super heros in there 20's.  I could be wrong but if you IMDB it all the actors are in there 20's.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: moot on July 24, 2008, 01:22:48 PM
This most recent Superman looks more in his late 20s than 30s..
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Gunslinger on July 24, 2008, 05:15:49 PM
I have not read this thread because I don't want to see any spoilers so appologies if this was mentioned before but is this movie kid friendly?  keep in mind my kids have heard bad words and seen violance before.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: SSgtHam on July 24, 2008, 05:32:25 PM
There are very few bad words in The Dark Knight, but the violence might not be okay for most little kids.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: mentalguy on July 24, 2008, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: Gunslinger on July 24, 2008, 05:15:49 PM
I have not read this thread because I don't want to see any spoilers so appologies if this was mentioned before but is this movie kid friendly?  keep in mind my kids have heard bad words and seen violance before.

shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 24, 2008, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: Gunslinger on July 24, 2008, 05:15:49 PM
I have not read this thread because I don't want to see any spoilers so appologies if this was mentioned before but is this movie kid friendly?  keep in mind my kids have heard bad words and seen violance before.

I would say that 90% of the movie is friendly for under 15's.  But then that remaining 10% seemed violent and graphic.  No cursing, no general gore.  Otherwise great movie

** Spoiler as to why it wouldn't be kid friendly




They do show Harvey Dent's transformation to two face.  And it is particularly gruesome.  This is the part where I'd worry about showing it to kids.  If you want to see, look it up on yahoo, then make the judgement.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: moot on August 04, 2008, 09:22:14 AM
Rumor for DK2/BB3 is the two uglies are Riddler and ...  Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: RATTFINK on August 04, 2008, 02:12:14 PM
(http://www.universohq.com/cinema/images/penguin_batman_seriado.jpg)

 :rock

Christopher Walken??
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: caldera on August 04, 2008, 03:53:57 PM
How about an older MILF catwoman?

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/tn_monica-bellucci-25.jpg)

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/Monica-Bellucci-144-1280x1024.jpg)

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/monica_bellucci_27.jpg)

She gets my vote for the sexiest woman alive.
Title: Re: The Dark Knight
Post by: Saxman on August 04, 2008, 04:11:49 PM
So long as they remember she wasn't a psychotic villain but more of a common thief I say add her.