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Title: Sorry to all...
Post by: Amsoil21 on November 19, 2008, 05:07:51 PM
ok guys cant really say much to defend myself because i know im a total idiot. but just wanna say sorry to you all for shade killing my brothers account.
it was stupid and selfish of me and unfair on all of the honest ppl out there trying for score. im not sorry for myself at all, however i do feel really bad that i did such a  stupid thing whilst part of such a great squad (The Few) And Bruv119 has took this very seriously and i have been kicked from there squad and, rightly so.
pls dont blame the few because they had no part in this and didnt know i was even doing it. i have decided not to play for a while and cant forgive myself for what i have done.
i have learned my lesson the hard way and would love to roll back time however i know i was WRONG and therfore i should be punished.

Anyway good luck all <S> 
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 19, 2008, 05:11:27 PM
Wow. All i can say.



At least you have the balls to come clean about it. Best of luck to you.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: grizz441 on November 19, 2008, 05:11:54 PM
It's nice to hear this from you and I'm sure most of the community will be very forgiving about it.  It's easy to be overcome by competitive spirit in wanting to win so bad that you make some bad choices to achieve your goal.  Your apology is worth a lot and hopefully you will continue to fly and earn respect back in the community.  A humbling apology is worth A LOT in my book.

 :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Curlew on November 19, 2008, 05:12:43 PM
 :salute Best of luck to you
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: glock89 on November 19, 2008, 05:14:32 PM
:salute Best of luck to you
Same.  :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Shuffler on November 19, 2008, 05:17:29 PM
Wonder why they come and appologize now though. We know they did it because the stats are public. If they felt really bad about it they should have come clean on their own. Not waited till they were drug out in the open by the facts.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: SuBWaYCH on November 19, 2008, 05:17:50 PM
Its good that you came out and admitted it and didn't just hide. Best wishes to you  :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: zoozoo on November 19, 2008, 05:18:11 PM
I forgive you for having the guts to say that  :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Rollins on November 19, 2008, 05:18:56 PM
Wonder why they come and appologize now though. We know they did it because the stats are public. If they felt really bad about it they should have come clean on their own. Not waited till they were drug out in the open by the facts.

 :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 19, 2008, 05:20:14 PM
While I do give you credit for stepping up and admitting you were wrong, I still think you're a tool and will always be in my book.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 19, 2008, 05:22:25 PM
While I do give you credit for stepping up and admitting you were wrong, I still think you're a tool and will always be in my book.


ack-ack

Yikes!  I agree with ack ack.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: dunnrite on November 19, 2008, 05:23:16 PM
Wonder why they come and appologize now though. We know they did it because the stats are public. If they felt really bad about it they should have come clean on their own. Not waited till they were drug out in the open by the facts.

Ok, I will have to come clean before everyone finds out on their own.  I have been shooting shades for a couple of years, but I have yet to hit one. :uhoh


But I for one do commend you for your apology.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Kazaa on November 19, 2008, 05:27:00 PM
Reserved.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: sunfan1121 on November 19, 2008, 05:28:45 PM
LMFAO I love the new stat page.  :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: uptown on November 19, 2008, 05:29:12 PM
I deleted my OP but i guess the new score page is working well  :lol
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 19, 2008, 05:42:47 PM
LMFAO I love the new stat page.  :aok
I deleted my OP but i guess the new score page is working well  :lol

Indeed
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Cobra516 on November 19, 2008, 05:47:37 PM
Wow, how old are you Amsoil?  You have to be pretty young to do something so immature.  Live and learn I guess.  At least you apologized!
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: dyna76 on November 19, 2008, 05:51:00 PM
Amsoil, your sheep will be distributed equally throughout the AH community......they are ours now.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: ODBAL on November 19, 2008, 05:56:00 PM
While it is noble of you to apologize, I too have to wonder if the apology was prompted by being exposed?  But lets be honest, you cheated to make your score on an online video game better.  I think the only people you owe an apology to is your parents, they will wonder where they went wrong.  But seriously, this is a freakin video game, you didn't cause any tangible pain or suffering.  You made a poor choice on which you knew you would be judged for, very harshly if you were exposed.  I am not on the "get rid of scoring" bandwagon, many players play the game based on getting a high score, and good for them so long as they do it within the acceptable limits of the game.  I just think it's sad when people pull these stunts to run their scores up.  I'm sure you will be back, and hopefully wiser from your experience.  :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: mbailey on November 19, 2008, 05:57:29 PM
The guy could have slinked away and said nothing.  The biggest part of growing up is taking responsibility for your actions, and learning from your mistakes.

<S> good luck Amsoil.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: WWhiskey on November 19, 2008, 06:00:43 PM
nice wtg on your admission,   now try hard not too try so hard, just have fun! :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Big Rat on November 19, 2008, 06:03:47 PM
Amsoil,

I applaud you for coming out and admitting your mistake. I'm sure it goes a long way for being able to come back to this community with some standing.  Deffinitely looks a lot better to me then simply slinking away and coming back later hoping nobody notices your return.

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Estes on November 19, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
While I do give you credit for stepping up and admitting you were wrong, I still think you're a tool and will always be in my book.


ack-ack
Will you have my baby?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Rebel on November 19, 2008, 06:19:47 PM
Way to man up.

If you're ever back (under a different name or whatever/if ever) and in need of a wingman, gimmie a holler- I'll fly with ya.  

 :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Newman5 on November 19, 2008, 06:32:00 PM
Good for fessin' up.  Hope others follow your lead.   :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Stang on November 19, 2008, 06:33:34 PM
Thanks for stepping forth, but realize no one will ever trust anything you do in the game again.  Just the nature of the beast.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Steve on November 19, 2008, 06:39:43 PM
Manning up would have been confessing to the deed prior to being exposed. Amsoil's stats were called into question more than once during the tour and he kept silent, even while reputable squaddies vouched for his integrity. There was no "manning up". There was only the feigned contrition of one found guilty, like a felon apologizing for his deeds in hopes of receiving a reduced sentence.

Amsoil21=tool
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 19, 2008, 06:44:16 PM
Will you have my baby?

As long as we can name the baby Shuffler if it's a boy and Mensa if it's a girl.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: PFactorDave on November 19, 2008, 06:47:40 PM
Manning up would have been confessing to the deed prior to being exposed. Amsoil's stats were called into question more than once during the tour and he kept silent, even while reputable squaddies vouched for his integrity. There was no "manning up". There was only the feigned contrition of one found guilty, like a felon apologizing for his deeds in hopes of receiving a reduced sentence.

Amsoil21=tool

I agree with this.

X2
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: hubsonfire on November 19, 2008, 06:50:51 PM
Manning up would have been confessing to the deed prior to being exposed. Amsoil's stats were called into question more than once during the tour and he kept silent, even while reputable squaddies vouched for his integrity. There was no "manning up". There was only the feigned contrition of one found guilty, like a felon apologizing for his deeds in hopes of receiving a reduced sentence.

Amsoil21=tool
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: LYNX on November 19, 2008, 06:52:12 PM
ok guys cant really say much to defend myself because i know im a total idiot. but just wanna say sorry to you all for shade killing my brothers account.
it was stupid and selfish of me and unfair on all of the honest ppl out there trying for score. im not sorry for myself at all, however i do feel really bad that i did such a  stupid thing whilst part of such a great squad (The Few) And Bruv119 has took this very seriously and i have been kicked from there squad and, rightly so.
pls dont blame the few because they had no part in this and didnt know i was even doing it. i have decided not to play for a while and cant forgive myself for what i have done.
i have learned my lesson the hard way and would love to roll back time however i know i was WRONG and therfore i should be punished.

Anyway good luck all <S> 

Good on ya for cleansing your soul and clearing your former squad :salute.  A thing others havn't picked up on just yet.  You won't get any grief from me but be under no illusion you'll have a cross to bare when you come back.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: yanksfan on November 19, 2008, 06:57:16 PM
As long as we can name the baby Shuffler if it's a boy and Mensa if it's a girl.


ack-ack

LMFAO  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

World meet my new sig line! :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: mensa180 on November 19, 2008, 07:01:31 PM
As long as we can name the baby Shuffler if it's a boy and Mensa if it's a girl.


ack-ack

LOL!
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Tr1gg22 on November 19, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
way to man up :salute We will have to still hang u :D Remember this U made a dumb mistake ,but Ack Ack will always be an A-Hole :rock
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: moot on November 19, 2008, 07:23:14 PM
It's just a game.  Have fun.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: 007Rusty on November 19, 2008, 07:26:44 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Shifty on November 19, 2008, 07:59:21 PM
As long as we can name the baby Shuffler if it's a boy and Mensa if it's a girl.


ack-ack

:lol
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: glock89 on November 19, 2008, 08:02:15 PM
As long as we can name the baby Shuffler if it's a boy and Mensa if it's a girl.


ack-ack
Is that what been up your bellybutton for the past 6 years?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Bronk on November 19, 2008, 08:12:36 PM
Is that what been up your bellybutton for the past 6 years?
You just don't know when to stop poking the bear do you ?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: glock89 on November 19, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
You just don't know when to stop poking the bear do you ?
Hey i hate Ack-Ack and he been a bellybutton to me ever since i join so i talk back to him and i get yell at wow isn't this nice the small guy can't get his voice heard but every one else can.  :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: fudgums on November 19, 2008, 08:15:50 PM
Hey i hate Ack-Ack and he been a bellybutton to me ever since i join so i talk back to him and i get yell at wow isn't this nice the small guy can't get his voice heard but every one else can.  :aok

yawn
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Delirium on November 19, 2008, 08:23:02 PM
Wonder why they come and appologize now though. We know they did it because the stats are public. If they felt really bad about it they should have come clean on their own. Not waited till they were drug out in the open by the facts.

Bingo.

Vulching a shade is bad enough, but only apologizing after you got caught is a complete lack of character.

Those that give excuses on top of it (ie Cry Farming) are lower still.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: WWhiskey on November 19, 2008, 08:26:27 PM
this is kinda like a thread on why you should not kiss your sister :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: fudgums on November 19, 2008, 08:27:52 PM
this is kinda like a thread on why you should not kiss your sister :rofl :rofl :rofl

LOL
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: doleboy on November 19, 2008, 08:36:10 PM
What an absolute muppet you are Amsoil21, as well as all the 'best of luck' turkeys that feel the need to pat you on the the back for stepping forward and admitting your cheating ways. Would you be doing this if the score potatos did not detect you? I think not. You can suck on my wet, fart stained underpants.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: grizz441 on November 19, 2008, 08:37:28 PM
Manning up would have been confessing to the deed prior to being exposed. Amsoil's stats were called into question more than once during the tour and he kept silent, even while reputable squaddies vouched for his integrity. There was no "manning up". There was only the feigned contrition of one found guilty, like a felon apologizing for his deeds in hopes of receiving a reduced sentence.

Amsoil21=tool

You're absolutely right Steve, he did have people sticking up for him and I took A LOT of flak for even speculating that he was cheating.  That's when he should have manned up.  Amsoil21 I still think it's good that you apologized but I have to go back on my original post patting you on the back as much as I did.  Your apology is too little too late.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Stang on November 19, 2008, 08:39:55 PM
The good thing is this is only a game.  Perhaps he learned a good life lesson in this and will act better in the future.  But a tard here he will forever be.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: glock89 on November 19, 2008, 08:43:13 PM
The good thing is this is only a game.  Perhaps he learned a good life lesson in this and will act better in the future.  But a tard here he will forever be.
Learn what? How not to make your voice heard? How not to flip out on people but yet you can't help because they been a bellybutton to you?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Steve on November 19, 2008, 08:48:38 PM
Learn what? How not to make your voice heard? How not to flip out on people but yet you can't help because they been a bellybutton to you?

Pssst, this thread isn't about you, dummy.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 19, 2008, 09:01:35 PM
gaming the game is right up there with running the fastest mile in the special Olympics, yeah you won, so now your the fastest retard.

who cares what you did as an individual?! its your account(s) your paying for it/them so do what you want. anybody that doesn't like what you do with something your paying for should either start paying your bills for you so they can then have a say in what you do with it, or they should mind their own business and enjoy their own game.

but really the only reason i decided i would voice an opinion is this.

you allowed people to vouch for you and your character and it was all based on a lie. this is about the most disgraceful and disrespectful thing you could possibly do to people you called "friend".

had they have chosen to lie on your behalf because they knew the truth and were a willing participant in the cover up then the ridicule of being caught would belong to them, and their shame would be upon their own shoulders.

but based upon your own addmission, and only if your telling the truth now, you mislead them. you allowed them to share in your disgrace as unwilling and unwanting conspirators in your lie. no one may jump right out and say it to them face up, but many people will question their integrity and their judgment in the future. people will always wonder about them now. no matter how many times you swear that they didn't know. is the world suppose to take your obviously tainted and worthless word for it? or instead should the world believe their sworn denials and protests of innocence, the same sworn denials and protests of innocence they once made on your behalf?

personally and based solely upon the little i know of the few, i choose to believe in their innocence to your scam. i hope others will see you for the kind of person i do and give them the benefit of the doubt without question or judgment. time alone will tell.

in the future how quickly do you think they will rise up to voice their defence of another? one who may truly be innocent of an accusation made against them, one who needs the help of others to clear their name? do you think those that defended you will be so willing to help the next person? do you think the repercussions of your actions will end with you?

you have called the reputation and integrity of others into question, for that and for that alone do i judge you LOSER.

you are a disgrace to any who would call you friend.

this is just a game, shut off the computer and the game goes away. your integrity is something that is with you always and in everything you will ever do. i hope you find only friends equal to you in their integrity.

FLOTSOM
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 19, 2008, 09:04:45 PM
Is that what been up your bellybutton for the past 6 years?

I see a PNG in your future...


ack-ack
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Banshee7 on November 19, 2008, 09:05:54 PM
I see a PNG in your future...


ack-ack

seconded
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: uptown on November 19, 2008, 09:35:00 PM
I just hope this doesn't reflect badly for The Few. They're a fine British squad. I like em.

Oh AMsoil, take your brother with ya.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 19, 2008, 09:40:55 PM
Although I like the idea of redemption and reform, I agree with the others that it's a shame we didn't learn the truth from Amsoil21 himself.  Punishment has been swift and just, time to move on.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: bmwgs on November 19, 2008, 11:27:15 PM
Jeez guys, give the kid a break. 

Y'all write like Aces High is some sort of passage to life.  Everybody that has played this game, for any length of time, had done something gamey.  For those of you who say you haven't,(BULL).

Maybe some deeds are worse than others, but he was caught, and he then came forward, which is more than what most would have done.  To say he will never be forgiven, who cares?

It's a friggin game, move on and piss on the next guy in line.

Now run and check my scores, there is nothing special to see except I get killed a bunch.

Dare I voice my opinion?

Fred
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: mechanic on November 19, 2008, 11:42:31 PM
Fred, I am usualy one of the first idiots to stand up for the underdog if i see any fit reason. This time, no way, just read what Flotsom wrote a few posts up, it is the only sensible post in the thread and for me the main reason why amsoiled is a giant dildo.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Cooley on November 19, 2008, 11:56:28 PM
well i'll give ya a wtg for apologizing  :aok

you could have just vanished and made a new name
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: bmwgs on November 20, 2008, 12:26:50 AM
Fred, I am usualy one of the first idiots to stand up for the underdog if i see any fit reason. This time, no way, just read what Flotsom wrote a few posts up, it is the only sensible post in the thread and for me the main reason why amsoiled is a giant dildo.

Mechanic, I did read his post before I responded, but after your post I went back and reread it to make sure I didn't miss anything.  I do agree with Flotsom, in general, but, I have to keep the perspective that this is a game, and only a game. 

I don't know how old Amsoil is, but I'm willing to bet he is fairly young, at least compared to me.  I agree that he did do something that I feel is totally wrong, but keeping it in perspective that this is only a game, I do not feel he should he should be branded for life.  Even if he is, I guess it's no big deal, a simple name change erases the past in this game.

I respectively agree with you, but I think this is all a bit extreme, with a bit of a witch hunt being thrown in.

Freds Opinion Again. 
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Getback on November 20, 2008, 12:45:52 AM
Manning up would have been confessing to the deed prior to being exposed. Amsoil's stats were called into question more than once during the tour and he kept silent, even while reputable squaddies vouched for his integrity. There was no "manning up". There was only the feigned contrition of one found guilty, like a felon apologizing for his deeds in hopes of receiving a reduced sentence.

Amsoil21=tool

Like Pfactor I agree with this too. My best hope for you Amosil is that you learn from this and always keep integrity in the forefront of your life.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: mechanic on November 20, 2008, 01:42:06 AM
{snip}

Freds Opinion Again. 



With respect sir, I think you missed the part i am talking about. Has nothing to do with the shade account or score card. It has everything to do with abusing the trust of friends and dragging them through the mud with him over the last few days.
That said, you are right, just a game and everyone deserves a few second chances now and then.

over n out!

Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: stodd on November 20, 2008, 02:05:45 AM
ok guys cant really say much to defend myself because i know im a total idiot. but just wanna say sorry to you all for shade killing my brothers account.
it was stupid and selfish of me and unfair on all of the honest ppl out there trying for score. im not sorry for myself at all, however i do feel really bad that i did such a  stupid thing whilst part of such a great squad (The Few) And Bruv119 has took this very seriously and i have been kicked from there squad and, rightly so.
pls dont blame the few because they had no part in this and didnt know i was even doing it. i have decided not to play for a while and cant forgive myself for what i have done.
i have learned my lesson the hard way and would love to roll back time however i know i was WRONG and therfore i should be punished.

Anyway good luck all <S> 
:rofl :rofl An appology as the new stat system comes out :rolleyes:. So what are you changing your name to now? :rofl
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: A8TOOL on November 20, 2008, 02:18:45 AM

Your one of many who were caught up that would'nt dare post something like that out of fear and lack of character. It does take a real man to step up and say he was wrong in my book. It's not like your trying to put on an act to get a lesser sentence from the judge by posting here and taking the beating you felt you deserved.
The name amsoil will be forever mud but I'm sure you will be back with a new outlook and name.




Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: moot on November 20, 2008, 02:58:45 AM
It's just a freakin game.  Anyone who doesn't screw around with the rules once in a while needs to pop their cork out.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 20, 2008, 03:03:30 AM
start banning that tards again :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: grizz441 on November 20, 2008, 03:06:16 AM
It's just a freakin game.  Anyone who doesn't screw around with the rules once in a while needs to pop their cork out.

lol moot, all you ever do is defend twits, guaranteed you are a democrat, Guaranteed!   Not that there's anything wrong with that lol I just guarantee it. (That is, if you are American)

P.S. what is your in game name?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: MarkII on November 20, 2008, 03:22:56 AM
well done mate, great of you to come clean, silly what you did, but your still a great guy in my book, hope to see you back soon
ok guys cant really say much to defend myself because i know im a total idiot. but just wanna say sorry to you all for shade killing my brothers account.
it was stupid and selfish of me and unfair on all of the honest ppl out there trying for score. im not sorry for myself at all, however i do feel really bad that i did such a  stupid thing whilst part of such a great squad (The Few) And Bruv119 has took this very seriously and i have been kicked from there squad and, rightly so.
pls dont blame the few because they had no part in this and didnt know i was even doing it. i have decided not to play for a while and cant forgive myself for what i have done.
i have learned my lesson the hard way and would love to roll back time however i know i was WRONG and therfore i should be punished.

Anyway good luck all <S> 
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: A8TOOL on November 20, 2008, 03:27:47 AM
It's just a freakin game.  Anyone who doesn't screw around with the rules once in a while needs to pop their cork out.

As you see Moot, many people take this game seriously as they should with any sport or hobby they are interested in where competition is involved. Many of it's members are adults with children of their own that they would not be teaching this behavior to. Just because it's an internet video game does not mean it's not worthy of it's members  wanting to achieve certain goals either on a personal or team oriented level. To those members, Stats are important and for others, it's a right and wrong issue on an adult level.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Nilsen on November 20, 2008, 03:36:31 AM
Wtg for stepping up. You did the right thing by letting The Few "off the hook". If i were you i would still get a new handle and not abuse it the next time. People may say they forget, but they really don't, and you will hear about this forever.

Good luck with your next shade and just enjoy the game without worrying about your score. Nobody really cares about it and infact it only gives you respect infront of the newbs until they learn too.

Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: bmwgs on November 20, 2008, 04:40:26 AM

With respect sir, I think you missed the part i am talking about. Has nothing to do with the shade account or score card. It has everything to do with abusing the trust of friends and dragging them through the mud with him over the last few days.  That said, you are right, just a game and everyone deserves a few second chances now and then.

over n out!



Your right, I see what your talking about now.  I was looking at the issue through another window.  I agree with you on that point, but I again think this is a bit deep from my perspective.   :salute

Last opinion concerning this, welllllllllllllllllllllllllll llll maybe not.    :devil

Fred
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: grizz441 on November 20, 2008, 06:11:52 AM
oops
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: The Fury on November 20, 2008, 06:14:08 AM
Apology accepted Amsoil mate im sure you wont do it again bro.

When ya get back be sure to let us know when you are as i like many others have said will wing with ya anytime.

Dont beat yourself up too bad over it some people stay bitter longer than others and act like children others know how to forgive and forget and give 2nd chances. At the end of the day its still only a GAME.

 :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: moot on November 20, 2008, 06:20:23 AM
lol moot, all you ever do is defend twits, guaranteed you are a democrat, Guaranteed!   Not that there's anything wrong with that lol I just guarantee it. (That is, if you are American)

P.S. what is your in game name?
:lol  Keep your day job.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: lyric1 on November 20, 2008, 06:44:40 AM
Well as the saying goes live & learn. I would say you are doing a little of both right now.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 20, 2008, 07:58:06 AM
but really the only reason i decided i would voice an opinion is this.

you allowed people to vouch for you and your character and it was all based on a lie. this is about the most disgraceful and disrespectful thing you could possibly do to people you called "friend".

had they have chosen to lie on your behalf because they knew the truth and were a willing participant in the cover up then the ridicule of being caught would belong to them, and their shame would be upon their own shoulders.

but based upon your own addmission, and only if your telling the truth now, you mislead them. you allowed them to share in your disgrace as unwilling and unwanting conspirators in your lie. no one may jump right out and say it to them face up, but many people will question their integrity and their judgment in the future. people will always wonder about them now. no matter how many times you swear that they didn't know. is the world suppose to take your obviously tainted and worthless word for it? or instead should the world believe their sworn denials and protests of innocence, the same sworn denials and protests of innocence they once made on your behalf?

personally and based solely upon the little i know of the few, i choose to believe in their innocence to your scam. i hope others will see you for the kind of person i do and give them the benefit of the doubt without question or judgment. time alone will tell.

in the future how quickly do you think they will rise up to voice their defence of another? one who may truly be innocent of an accusation made against them, one who needs the help of others to clear their name? do you think those that defended you will be so willing to help the next person? do you think the repercussions of your actions will end with you?

you have called the reputation and integrity of others into question, for that and for that alone do i judge you LOSER.

Mechanic is right.  This is the best analysis in the whole thread.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: iTunes on November 20, 2008, 09:56:52 AM
Listen mate, best thing you can do is get a new name and afresh start in here, fly for a different chess piece and stay out of squads and scores for a while.
You'll also have to bury that other piece of your charachter or learn how to be a man my friend. Like folks say, this could have been nipped in the bud earlier when this was first raised and maybe the few would have kept you? Would have dead and buried by now.
But more Important, you will at some point in your life have to stand for something and do the right thing, happens to us all at somepoint. I just hope that you learn from this, look yourself in the mirror, fix it with the few and learn to be a man.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Oldman731 on November 20, 2008, 10:06:50 AM
Apology accepted Amsoil mate im sure you wont do it again bro.

When ya get back be sure to let us know when you are as i like many others have said will wing with ya anytime.

Dont beat yourself up too bad over it some people stay bitter longer than others and act like children others know how to forgive and forget and give 2nd chances. At the end of the day its still only a GAME.

 :salute

I'm with this sentiment 100%.  Much as I love this game, I'm surprised to see some of the sentiment here from some long-time players.

- oldman
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: RATTFINK on November 20, 2008, 10:14:19 AM
HAVE FUN!!

A real man admits to his wrong doings.  I respect your statement and hope you come back soon.  You can change your name in-game and can start a new slate.

<<S>>
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 20, 2008, 10:16:47 AM
start banning that tards again :aok
I think we should ban tards that tower out just before the bombs hit.  If you get bombed, take it like a man.  The only reason to tower is to prevent a death. 

Just my opinion, I could be wrong..
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: B3YT on November 20, 2008, 10:44:06 AM
i respect amsoil as he could be making excuses or running away but he's taking it all from some folks on here . see you soon in game -taffy
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 20, 2008, 10:47:27 AM
I think we should ban tards that tower out just before the bombs hit.  If you get bombed, take it like a man.  The only reason to tower is to prevent a death. 

Just my opinion, I could be wrong..
you mad cause you didnt pick up some free horde running kills on me?
your bad bro.
no need in the anger  :aok
have a good one
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: ink on November 20, 2008, 10:54:29 AM
Jeez guys, give the kid a break. 

Y'all write like Aces High is some sort of passage to life.  Everybody that has played this game, for any length of time, had done something gamey.  For those of you who say you haven't,(BULL).

Maybe some deeds are worse than others, but he was caught, and he then came forward, which is more than what most would have done.  To say he will never be forgiven, who cares?

It's a friggin game, move on and piss on the next guy in line.

Now run and check my scores, there is nothing special to see except I get killed a bunch.

Dare I voice my opinion?

Fred

I just want to point out something to ya, when you say every one has done something "Gamey"
 i believe there are many here who have NEVER done something "gamey", maybe our defanition of "gamey" is different,  
  is vulching gamey?  i dont think so, but yet you will never see me vulch, yes i have when i began in AH but i have not vulched in a few years!!
  Is hourding "gamey"?,again i don't think so, yes i have killed with friendlies around me but if there are more friendlies then nmes i will go else where, or switch sides to be the one fighting the hourd.
  is Hoing "gamey"? running to ack? being a good BnZmer and utilizing your skill? or a TnBer and using those skillz?

NO,NO,NO  heck even spawn camping..

there are many styles of fighting that are complained about but those are not "gamey" in my book.

when you have to resort to shooting down a shade of yours or a buddies,or any other way to falsify your "skillz" now that is "gamey" in my book, almost to the point of cheating,

yes most every one deserves a second chance, and i hope he has learned a lesson that will follow him through out his life.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: dedalos on November 20, 2008, 11:08:42 AM
Its good that you came out and admitted it and didn't just hide. Best wishes to you  :salute

He did not come out.  He was hiding until someone else made him come out.  He is just sorry he got found out  :rofl

A quick name change and he is back in business  :lol
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: toonces3 on November 20, 2008, 11:14:18 AM
I thought score didn't count, we all wanted to do away with score, and caring about scoring is dweeby?

If so, then, in fact, this guy is the least dweeby of us all because of his utter disdain for the score system.

Or, in other words, my care-o-meter simply hasn't budged from this topic.

Padding score, something nobody cares about, in a freaking computer game.  Tell me again why I should care?  Coming clean?  Really?  In a computer game?  You lost me here folks.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 20, 2008, 11:39:01 AM
you mad cause you didnt pick up some free horde running kills on me?
your bad bro.
no need in the anger  :aok
have a good one
No anger at all really.  Actually, I think the various gamey ways people avoid death in the name of score is humorous.  Bomb and bail, towering as the bombs fall, yada, yada, yada is most hilarious.  I will say that at least you have skills, many who practice gamey tactics don't.

IMHO, much of the timid play styles necessary to be on the top of the rankings make no sense to me, but that's for another thread.

<S>

BTW, since when does 8 make a horde?  :huh
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 20, 2008, 11:47:45 AM
I think we should ban tards that tower out just before the bombs hit.  If you get bombed, take it like a man.  The only reason to tower is to prevent a death. 

Just my opinion, I could be wrong..

I don't get it.  Why would someone in a gv tower out with bombs falling if not to prevent death?  Or are you saying preventing a death that way is unmanly?  Personally, I don't think it takes much guts to drop a bomb on a gv, so it's tit-for-tat in my book.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Shifty on November 20, 2008, 11:52:01 AM
BTW, since when does 8 make a horde?  :huh

Usually when your group of eight whittle the opposing squad of sixteen down two or three the crys of horde start flying.  ;)
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 20, 2008, 12:07:33 PM
No anger at all really.  Actually, I think the various gamey ways people avoid death in the name of score is humorous.  Bomb and bail, towering as the bombs fall, yada, yada, yada is most hilarious.  I will say that at least you have skills, many who practice gamey tactics don't.

IMHO, much of the timid play styles necessary to be on the top of the rankings make no sense to me, but that's for another thread.

<S>

BTW, since when does 8 make a horde?  :huh
First off, i could care less about score.
Yeah im gonna sit there in a GV that i spend perks on and let your bombs kill me. (ummm hell no)
8 to take a Vbase is a horde  :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 20, 2008, 12:10:27 PM
I don't get it.  Why would someone in a gv tower out with bombs falling if not to prevent death?  Or are you saying preventing a death that way is unmanly?  Personally, I don't think it takes much guts to drop a bomb on a gv, so it's tit-for-tat in my book.
Yes, towering to keep from getting a death is gamey, that's what I am saying.  It's a tactic used by the score mongers almost exclusively.

Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 20, 2008, 12:12:40 PM
Yes, towering to keep from getting a death is gamey, that's what I am saying.  It's a tactic used by the score mongers almost exclusively.


enough with the hijack  :aok


LYNCH THE DAMN SHADE VULCHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: infowars on November 20, 2008, 12:18:24 PM
This is not a GAME.....  This is my life.  I would appreciate it if you people would stop belittling it.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 20, 2008, 12:19:15 PM
Yes, towering to keep from getting a death is gamey, that's what I am saying.  It's a tactic used by the score mongers almost exclusively.



[hijack]
And dropping a bomb on a gv from the safety of the air is manly?  I admit that I kill gv's with aircraft, but I never blame the gv's for doing their best to prevent me from getting a kill.
[/hijack]
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 20, 2008, 12:20:03 PM
This is not a GAME.....  This is my life.  I would appreciate it if you people would stop belittling it.
so how i dont think thats a joke  :noid

LYNCH THE SHADE VULCHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 20, 2008, 12:22:48 PM
[ HIJACK ]
Yes, towering to keep from getting a death is gamey, that's what I am saying.  It's a tactic used by the score mongers almost exclusively.



Oh puleese.  And dropping bombs on defensless vehicles isn't for score?  If I can tower safely to avoid a death while you simultaneously waste a bomb... haha!  Got ya!

[ /HIJACK ]
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: papa43 on November 20, 2008, 12:27:44 PM
You can suck on my wet, fart stained underpants.

At's a Bloody bit arsh, ain't it?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 20, 2008, 02:36:03 PM
[hijack]
And dropping a bomb on a gv from the safety of the air is manly?  I admit that I kill gv's with aircraft, but I never blame the gv's for doing their best to prevent me from getting a kill.
[/hijack]

I just remembered who you are.  Of course you have this opinion.  If there was a "Best at running from a fight" award, you would get it.

Carry on.. Nothing more you say on this matter will effect me in the slightest.  Have fun running to your ack instead of fighting..

buh by...
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 20, 2008, 02:44:58 PM
Oh puleese.  And dropping bombs on defensless vehicles isn't for score?

Nope, egging GVs that are intent on capturing your base isn't for score, however, as SCCA pointed out towering in a GV to avoid being bombed is purely for score, no other reason for it.


ack-akc
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Motherland on November 20, 2008, 02:48:35 PM
Oh puleese.  And dropping bombs on defensless vehicles isn't for score? 
I do it because it's fun. I'd imagine, with Aces High being an aerial combat game and all, that GV's were added first and foremost to give planes something else to shoot at.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: uberslet on November 20, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
Wonder why they come and appologize now though. We know they did it because the stats are public. If they felt really bad about it they should have come clean on their own. Not waited till they were drug out in the open by the facts.
i agree. if you dont have the balls to say it until the facts are dragged out into the light, you really musn't be all that sorry. I was just reading the "New score page witch hunt" pr whatever the name of the thread is, and i saw that Amsoil had been brought to the light. after that i got bored of reading, looked at threads, saw this and only wondered what it was about. Honestly, i find its no surprise that hes appologizing now after he has been drug into the light. i have no sympthy for amsoil afer doing this. as ive stated, why wait until your dragged into the light to appologize, why not just come out and say it?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 20, 2008, 02:51:29 PM
<holds hands over ears and closes eyes> "Lalalalalalalalalala...."
:rofl
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: swareiam on November 20, 2008, 02:52:32 PM
ok guys cant really say much to defend myself because i know im a total idiot. but just wanna say sorry to you all for shade killing my brothers account.
it was stupid and selfish of me and unfair on all of the honest ppl out there trying for score. im not sorry for myself at all, however i do feel really bad that i did such a  stupid thing whilst part of such a great squad (The Few) And Bruv119 has took this very seriously and i have been kicked from there squad and, rightly so.
pls dont blame the few because they had no part in this and didnt know i was even doing it. i have decided not to play for a while and cant forgive myself for what i have done.
i have learned my lesson the hard way and would love to roll back time however i know i was WRONG and therfore i should be punished.

Anyway good luck all <S> 

Amsoil,

There is an old proverbial statement that goes like this; "If you'll lie... you'll cheat... If you'll cheat... you'll steal"... All of the worst qualities of a human being for which many have been put to death. But, take heart a confession cleanses the soul. And you have done this. Forgiveness now belongs to you on many levels. Take your second chance and learn from your past. When you're on the bottom there is no place to go but up.  :)

But, I do have a question for you. What did you feel you would gain from the experience of having your score so low without doing the work? You spent just as much time cheating as you would have learning to be your best. Think about that... Don't let your actions here translate to your real life. Being a LOSER in this game and a LOSER in real life are two different things.

Stay clean kid. Be better on your inevitable return. :aok


 :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Furball on November 20, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
ok guys cant really say much to defend myself because i know im a total idiot. but just wanna say sorry to you all for shade killing my brothers account.
it was stupid and selfish of me and unfair on all of the honest ppl out there trying for score. im not sorry for myself at all, however i do feel really bad that i did such a  stupid thing whilst part of such a great squad (The Few) And Bruv119 has took this very seriously and i have been kicked from there squad and, rightly so.
pls dont blame the few because they had no part in this and didnt know i was even doing it. i have decided not to play for a while and cant forgive myself for what i have done.
i have learned my lesson the hard way and would love to roll back time however i know i was WRONG and therfore i should be punished.

Anyway good luck all <S> 

Takes guts to come out and apologise, not just ignore a situation and hope it goes away like adonai, or go hide and start fresh with a new handle. 

I know you are a good guy and just made a mistake, you have a clean slate in my opinion, good luck to you <S>
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: saantana on November 20, 2008, 03:57:09 PM
Takes guts to come out and apologise, not just ignore a situation and hope it goes away like adonai, or go hide and start fresh with a new handle. 

I know you are a good guy and just made a mistake, you have a clean slate in my opinion, good luck to you <S>

I agree with furball.
Getting knocked out of your squad must have been enough of an experience. We could have done without some clowns on this thread kicking an already beat up dog.

Kudos to you for the apology and see you when you get back.

<S>
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: SunBat on November 20, 2008, 04:00:59 PM
Well, it's good that an apology was made.  Good job etc, etc, etc. 


Now, why is this guy still listed as the overall top pilot for last tour?  I'm not a score dude, but leaving him up seems to be unfair to the guys that are score dudes and seems to silently condone the "c" word.  Just saying...
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 20, 2008, 04:03:29 PM
Well, it's good that an apology was made.  Good job etc, etc, etc. 


Now, why is this guy still listed as the overall top pilot for last tour?  I'm not a score dude, but leaving him up seems to be unfair to the guys that are score dudes and seems to silently condone the "c" word.  Just saying...

i agree.
remove him from the main page and put the real score hookers up.
 :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: A8TOOL on November 20, 2008, 04:05:12 PM
Takes guts to come out and apologise, not just ignore a situation and hope it goes away like adonai, or go hide and start fresh with a new handle. 

I know you are a good guy and just made a mistake, you have a clean slate in my opinion, good luck to you <S>


yep
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: SunBat on November 20, 2008, 04:08:17 PM
i agree.
remove him from the main page and put the real score hookers up.
 :aok

That's a much better way of saying it.  I hereby rescind my statement and defer to BiPolar's.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 20, 2008, 04:15:14 PM
The only reason Amsoil21 is appologizing is because he was caught.  Now he hopes to change everyone's feelings about him to sympathy instead of whatever you might have thought of him after finding out about his dweebery.  This is simply another form of manipulation just like he manipulated his score, but I find this one even more despicable as he's now trying to manipulate the feelings of each individual in the entire community.

I can almost guarantee that if he hadn't been caught he'd be in a far flung corner of the map right now vulching his (brother's  :rolleyes: ) shade.

I'd like to see HT deal with this just as they would someone caught hacking the game.  After all, cheating is cheating.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Furball on November 20, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
Now he hopes to change everyone's feelings about him to sympathy instead of whatever you might have thought of him after finding out about his dweebery.  This is simply another form of manipulation just like he manipulated his score, but I find this one even more despicable as he's now trying to manipulate the feelings of each individual in the entire community.

I disagree, would have been far easier to disappear and start again and not fish for sympathy.  By doing this and sticking with the handle, to me it shows that he is trying to make amends and put things right.  This game has seen a lot of scumbags show up again and again with a new name every time they do something wrong - with little regard for anyone else.

Ams is relatively new, he made a stupid mistake going for that 1 rank - he will pay for that for a long time.  He will rise above it tho i think.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 20, 2008, 04:37:03 PM
piss on sympathy.
sympathy is for the weak.
hes a tool and always will be  :aok

LYNCH THE SHADE VULCHERS!!!!!
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: mechanic on November 20, 2008, 04:37:58 PM
Well said furby...i think. Reminds me of Bearkats, another example of a guy who didnt run and took his beatings to emerge respected and liked by many of us.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Bronk on November 20, 2008, 04:45:38 PM
Well said furby...i think. Reminds me of Bearkats, another example of a guy who didnt run and took his beatings to emerge respected and liked by many of us.
Who is bearkats?  :noid
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: moot on November 20, 2008, 04:45:46 PM
Furball check your PMs..
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 20, 2008, 04:48:12 PM
Geeze, as far as I could see, he killed some guy in bombers 75% of his 40-something Ju88 kills, and 85% of his 18 B-26 kills.


:salute for coming clean.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: stodd on November 20, 2008, 05:10:31 PM
piss on sympathy.
sympathy is for the weak.
hes a tool and always will be  :aok

LYNCH THE SHADE VULCHERS!!!!!
:aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: kvuo75 on November 20, 2008, 06:45:49 PM
[hijack]
And dropping a bomb on a gv from the safety of the air is manly?  I admit that I kill gv's with aircraft, but I never blame the gv's for doing their best to prevent me from getting a kill.
[/hijack]

Exactly. I will almost ALWAYS tower out on concrete if someone is dropping on my ostie at a vbase, _if_ hangars are still up. For one thing, it makes no sense for the bomber, the gv will just respawn in the hangar. If they think I'm gonna keep reupping and giving them free kills, they can bite me. Kill the hangars first.

Now, once all the hangars are down, I'll sit there to the death.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 20, 2008, 07:00:18 PM
Exactly. I will almost ALWAYS tower out on concrete if someone is dropping on my ostie at a vbase, _if_ hangars are still up. For one thing, it makes no sense for the bomber, the gv will just respawn in the hangar. If they think I'm gonna keep reupping and giving them free kills, they can bite me. Kill the hangars first.

Now, once all the hangars are down, I'll sit there to the death.


Anyone that towers out of a GV to avoid being killed does it purely to preserve their score.  There is not one valid reason to employ such 'tard like gaming the game habits. 

As for the argument that bombing a GV is just as lame, well that's the expected typical response from a GVer to try and excuse their lame actions.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: mechanic on November 20, 2008, 07:12:05 PM
Anyone that towers out of a GV to avoid being killed does it purely to preserve their score.  There is not one valid reason to employ such 'tard like gaming the game habits. 


ack-ack

Furball did that to me many times back in AH1, he didnt do it for score, he did it to piss me off :p So i learnt my lesson, bomb the VH first.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: kvuo75 on November 20, 2008, 09:23:16 PM
Anyone that towers out of a GV to avoid being killed does it purely to preserve their score.  There is not one valid reason to employ such 'tard like gaming the game habits. 

As for the argument that bombing a GV is just as lame, well that's the expected typical response from a GVer to try and excuse their lame actions.


ack-ack


I dont up from a deacked field in a fighter when the hordlets are vulching either.  Does that mean I'm "preserving" my fighter/attack score?








Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: stodd on November 20, 2008, 09:37:48 PM
Exactly. I will almost ALWAYS tower out on concrete if someone is dropping on my ostie at a vbase, _if_ hangars are still up. For one thing, it makes no sense for the bomber, the gv will just respawn in the hangar. If they think I'm gonna keep reupping and giving them free kills, they can bite me. Kill the hangars first.

Now, once all the hangars are down, I'll sit there to the death.

Your osti is meant to shoot him down, you had your chance to, if he gets his bomb out take it like a man.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: uptown on November 20, 2008, 09:38:12 PM
Who is bearkats?  :noid

Who is Goldelks  :noid
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 20, 2008, 09:38:37 PM

I dont up from a deacked field in a fighter when the hordlets are vulching either.  Does that mean I'm "preserving" my fighter/attack score?

You are clearly confusing smart play, with gameyness.  You don't seem to understand the difference between not upping vs. bailing to prevent a kill and I don't think anyone here could convince you that there is a difference.

Bailing to prevent a kill is up there with lanc stukas, shooting from within a windmill and vulching a shade in my mind, and others it seems.  

Hey, it's your $15, enjoy the game as you like.  It doesn't mean everyone will agree with your style.  We all have differing views.  IMHO, if you don't think bailing to prevent a kill is wrong, you are a gamer, not a player.  Players play in the spirit of the rules of the game.  Gamers look to exploit the system for better rank/score/lower deaths.  

I, am a player.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: FireDragon on November 20, 2008, 09:58:57 PM
I think it can take more guts to appologize after the fact than before..... :aok

Ill wing with you Amsoil21... Just look me up in the MA...

You dont have to change your name either.



<<S>>  FireDrgn
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Shuffler on November 20, 2008, 10:37:56 PM
Takes no guts... we call it trying to save face after the fact. Some know that there are individuals who fogive and forget no matter what... only to be trampled again in the future. At which time they try to get others to feel sorry for them.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 20, 2008, 10:45:22 PM

I dont up from a deacked field in a fighter when the hordlets are vulching either.  Does that mean I'm "preserving" my fighter/attack score?

Don't take it seriously.  Ackack has made it clear in the past that he doesn't care much for gv's in AH.

Yet, by his argument, towering out in an aircraft on the runway just before you are vulched is also gaming for score...reductio ad absurdum.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: PFactorDave on November 20, 2008, 11:12:01 PM
You are clearly confusing smart play, with gameyness.  You don't seem to understand the difference between not upping vs. bailing to prevent a kill and I don't think anyone here could convince you that there is a difference.

Bailing to prevent a kill is up there with lanc stukas, shooting from within a windmill and vulching a shade in my mind, and others it seems.  

Hey, it's your $15, enjoy the game as you like.  It doesn't mean everyone will agree with your style.  We all have differing views.  IMHO, if you don't think bailing to prevent a kill is wrong, you are a gamer, not a player.  Players play in the spirit of the rules of the game.  Gamers look to exploit the system for better rank/score/lower deaths.  



You know, I'm the type of guy that continues to pump ammo into the sky even though I can see the bomb coming right at me on the off chance that I'll tag the other guy before he takes me out....  But... 

I have been known to up on the runway of a field that is under full vulch, only to tower when somebody gets close.  Then re-up and tower right before they can vulch me.  If I've had a couple drinks, it can get me to laughing hysterically as the vulchers swoop in to find an empty runway right before they pull the trigger.  I figure that they are still effectively capping the field, in case their intent is a base capture (which I don't really have a problem with).  But teasing them with the chance to kill me, then snatching it away gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

If it's wrong to frustrate vulchers, then I don't want to be right.  :D
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 20, 2008, 11:25:54 PM
But teasing them with the chance to kill me, then snatching it away gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Exactly.  In fact, if I tower a GV on concrete with a bomb coming at me I almost always raise my arms in victory and sceam Yes!  I do it just to piss the other guy off but if the hangers are down I'm in till the bitter end.

I also don't hold it against anyone else doing the same to me.  If I drop on them while they are on concrete and the hangers are still up then, well, I was just stupid.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Guppy35 on November 20, 2008, 11:55:42 PM
As this is the guy listed on the AH Homepage with the 'top overall ranking' in latewar, I think the case has been made to prove how unimportant scores are, and how little they impact on showing the quality of the cartoon pilot.

And frankly the apology after getting busted, only goes so far.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: bmwgs on November 21, 2008, 12:21:07 AM
Anyone that towers out of a GV to avoid being killed does it purely to preserve their score.  There is not one valid reason to employ such 'tard like gaming the game habits. 

As for the argument that bombing a GV is just as lame, well that's the expected typical response from a GVer to try and excuse their lame actions.


ack-ack

Lets see if I got this right.  Dropping eggs on a GV while the hanger(s) are up, is not someone trying to pad their score? 

As for a reason for doing it, I can think of a couple, but one would be getting the dumb arse to expend his ord. on the GV rather than the hanger.

I agree with BaldEagl, if the hangers are up, and the bombs are on the way, I'll tower out in a second.  Now if the hangers are down, I'll stay to the end.

Fred 
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Old Sport on November 21, 2008, 12:54:57 AM
Quote
pls dont blame the few because they had no part in this and didnt know i was even doing it. i have decided not to play for a while and cant forgive myself for what i have done.

To me the salient point was absolving The Few from involvement in this misadventure.

 :aok

The question that comes my mind is:

"What did his shocked brother say when he found out he was ranked 5893 and Amsoil was ranked 1?"
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Furball on November 21, 2008, 02:16:53 AM
Furball did that to me many times back in AH1, he didnt do it for score, he did it to piss me off :p So i learnt my lesson, bomb the VH first.

 :devil

I remember that, you were in an A-20 and i was in an Osty.  Think you tried to bomb me 4 times or so before you realised what i was doing? haha.

I think the score system should be based on the amount of people you piss off each tour, it would be much more difficult to game that system.  :D
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: RAM on November 21, 2008, 02:59:33 AM
I have my reserves to say too much here, as I don't exactly have the best and most shining past in Aces High. I'm just back from a long forced leave (lack of internet connection) aswell so, I don't really know the guy nor he has done any harm to me or my score (which is usually very low anyway).

 However, and because among my many mistakes in the past was never abusing AH's scoring/Gaming system, I'll drop my 0.02€ in here and say what I think.

Mistakes we all commit. Wrong things we all do. Maybe not in the game, but in life noone is a saint. Probably the guy is young, prolly only a kid, and when you are young you do very stupid things.
However that doesn't help the fact that Amsoil lied, which is bad, took advantage of cheating the scoring system, and (worse of all, at least for me) compromised his squadmates into defending him actively and in front of everyone of this community; so much that now they are under suspect by most of the witchhunters (I love the word  :rofl). His actions are really shameful and I hope are not a reflection of what the guy would do in real life in order to achieve success.
 There are certain barriers you should never cross, and he has crossed over a very important one: faking success to achieve respect and letting his mates on the dust because they stepped up to defend him against well founded accusations. This kind of behavior is not unusual in real life, I'm sure we all know someone who has earned a position or a respect he doesn't deserve by stepping over the work of other people, not his own. And who still has good friends who will defend him against any critics.

Those people rank in my own eyes as one of the worse kind of scumbag you can find in day-to-day life. As I said I just hope what he has done here is not what he does/is willing to do in real life.

I dont think he needs any more flak than what he has received (it was a well earned flak anyway), so I won't go further. I won't question his motives as for coming here and offer a public apology; exposed or not the fact is that he has stepped up, admitted his fault, and apologized for it. That's at least a good reaction on his part. As long as he learns from the experience and doesn't do it again (and I doubt anyone would ever do it again given the new score page :D), I'm fine with it. Even more if he comes back with his own nickname. If he really is sorry and he really wants to fix his past behavior he won't hide under another handle, but use his own, stand any well deserved criticism he has earned now, and work hard to make himself a good reputation working by the same rules we all the rest obey.

That's what I think at least. Excuse my poor english, btw, been months since I last used it for anything...
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Steve on November 21, 2008, 03:05:13 AM
I have my reserves to say too much here,


Apparently not.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: RAM on November 21, 2008, 03:09:29 AM
Yes, I decided to write in this thread. That doesn't mean I didn't really wonder if it was appropiate or not, as back some years ago I was not the one to show the best personal behavior in Aces High (granted, in a long, long past. But still...), and because I have been out for almost 5 months because internet problems that have prevented me to fly AH2.

What I wanted to say couldn't be said in two lines anyway. It was something of a choice between posting what I've posted, or post nothing at all, so I decided for the former.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Steve on November 21, 2008, 03:26:27 AM
Yes, I decided to write in this thread. That doesn't mean I didn't really wonder if it was appropiate or not, as back some years ago I was not the one to show the best personal behavior in Aces High (granted, in a long, long past. But still...), and because I have been out for almost 5 months because internet problems that have prevented me to fly AH2.

What I wanted to say couldn't be said in two lines anyway. It was something of a choice between posting what I've posted, or post nothing at all, so I decided for the former.

It was just a joke, O verbose one.

 :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 21, 2008, 06:26:48 AM
Lets see if I got this right.  Dropping eggs on a GV while the hanger(s) are up, is not someone trying to pad their score? 

As for a reason for doing it, I can think of a couple, but one would be getting the dumb arse to expend his ord. on the GV rather than the hanger.

I agree with BaldEagl, if the hangers are up, and the bombs are on the way, I'll tower out in a second.  Now if the hangers are down, I'll stay to the end.

Fred 
Another argument to your theory besides score is attempting to keep a GV from getting to the map room when an M3 is on the way as was the case here.

If you don't have enough ords to take out all 3 hangers, and you can keep the GV's busy while the M3 runs to the map room. In that case, bombing GVs instead of taking out hangers is a good tactic.  Agreed?

You see, there are always many sides to the story, you need to accept that fact.  One look at my k/d and rank will tell you I am not a score monger.  I don't often run from a fight even when out numbered, and I am willing to risk an wirb attack for the "greater good". 

If you want to find the score mongers, look at a players K/D.  Gavagai is a good example of one who plays for rank.  He runs from 1v1 fights unless he has uber alt/E.  I had nothing better to do one night so I chased a con two sectors all the way back to his base, and a friend. It was gavagai.  To him, his cartoon life is precious, and he plays that way.  To me that's boring, but to each his/her own.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Rich46yo on November 21, 2008, 07:00:33 AM
Exactly.  In fact, if I tower a GV on concrete with a bomb coming at me I almost always raise my arms in victory and sceam Yes!  I do it just to piss the other guy off but if the hangers are down I'm in till the bitter end.


Oh? And the other 99.99999% of us thought you did it cause your a score 'hoe. Thanks for clarifying. As the bomb is coming at you do you do a quick hangar check first?  :lol

You can always tell sombody who plays for score/rank. Theres exceptions but generally they fly/ride like they have a load in their pants. You'll see them at vulches but never upping to defend a base against a horde.

Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 21, 2008, 07:48:41 AM
Well said furby...i think. Reminds me of Bearkats, another example of a guy who didnt run and took his beatings to emerge respected and liked by many of us.
The whole Bear thing isnt even close to the same.
He called skuzz and told him what he did.

this twit waited until he got busted doing it.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: kvuo75 on November 21, 2008, 08:28:04 AM
Another argument to your theory besides score is attempting to keep a GV from getting to the map room when an M3 is on the way as was the case here.

If you don't have enough ords to take out all 3 hangers, and you can keep the GV's busy while the M3 runs to the map room. In that case, bombing GVs instead of taking out hangers is a good tactic.  Agreed?


oh absolutely.. im more talking about the situation where a group of 10+ comes to take a stinkin Vbase from 3 or 4 defenders.. (which is usually the case with bishops vs. us knights it seems)

Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 21, 2008, 08:33:41 AM
oh absolutely.. im more talking about the situation where a group of 10+ comes to take a stinkin Vbase from 3 or 4 defenders.. (which is usually the case with bishops vs. us knights it seems)


ive taken a Vbase by myself with 5 defenders on it. with a set of lancs before.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 21, 2008, 08:51:48 AM
You can always tell sombody who plays for score/rank. Theres exceptions but generally they fly/ride like they have a load in their pants. You'll see them at vulches but never upping to defend a base against a horde.

I'm usually out hunting one on ones; like the day I killed you otw to a vb to pork it in your B-38.  You weren't exactly upping from a capped field to fight off the hoard, more like going to a vb to vulch gv's I'd say.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: saantana on November 21, 2008, 09:18:24 AM
I have my reserves to say too much here, as I don't exactly have the best and most shining past in Aces High. I'm just back from a long forced leave (lack of internet connection) aswell so, I don't really know the guy nor he has done any harm to me or my score (which is usually very low anyway).

 However, and because among my many mistakes in the past was never abusing AH's scoring/Gaming system, I'll drop my 0.02€ in here and say what I think.

Mistakes we all commit. Wrong things we all do. Maybe not in the game, but in life noone is a saint. Probably the guy is young, prolly only a kid, and when you are young you do very stupid things.
However that doesn't help the fact that Amsoil lied, which is bad, took advantage of cheating the scoring system, and (worse of all, at least for me) compromised his squadmates into defending him actively and in front of everyone of this community; so much that now they are under suspect by most of the witchhunters (I love the word  :rofl). His actions are really shameful and I hope are not a reflection of what the guy would do in real life in order to achieve success.
 There are certain barriers you should never cross, and he has crossed over a very important one: faking success to achieve respect and letting his mates on the dust because they stepped up to defend him against well founded accusations. This kind of behavior is not unusual in real life, I'm sure we all know someone who has earned a position or a respect he doesn't deserve by stepping over the work of other people, not his own. And who still has good friends who will defend him against any critics.

Those people rank in my own eyes as one of the worse kind of scumbag you can find in day-to-day life. As I said I just hope what he has done here is not what he does/is willing to do in real life.

I dont think he needs any more flak than what he has received (it was a well earned flak anyway), so I won't go further. I won't question his motives as for coming here and offer a public apology; exposed or not the fact is that he has stepped up, admitted his fault, and apologized for it. That's at least a good reaction on his part. As long as he learns from the experience and doesn't do it again (and I doubt anyone would ever do it again given the new score page :D), I'm fine with it. Even more if he comes back with his own nickname. If he really is sorry and he really wants to fix his past behavior he won't hide under another handle, but use his own, stand any well deserved criticism he has earned now, and work hard to make himself a good reputation working by the same rules we all the rest obey.

That's what I think at least. Excuse my poor english, btw, been months since I last used it for anything...

RAM,
Where the hell have you been?  :lol
Get on the squad forums!!!
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Shuffler on November 21, 2008, 09:18:41 AM
OK wait.... on this GV issue.... I thought having the bomb drop on me was the way to tower out. Maybe I'm in my 38 too much :P
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: bmwgs on November 21, 2008, 09:27:02 AM
Another argument to your theory besides score is attempting to keep a GV from getting to the map room when an M3 is on the way as was the case here.

If you don't have enough ords to take out all 3 hangers, and you can keep the GV's busy while the M3 runs to the map room. In that case, bombing GVs instead of taking out hangers is a good tactic.  Agreed?

You see, there are always many sides to the story, you need to accept that fact.  One look at my k/d and rank will tell you I am not a score monger.  I don't often run from a fight even when out numbered, and I am willing to risk an wirb attack for the "greater good". 

If you want to find the score mongers, look at a players K/D.  Gavagai is a good example of one who plays for rank.  He runs from 1v1 fights unless he has uber alt/E.  I had nothing better to do one night so I chased a con two sectors all the way back to his base, and a friend. It was gavagai.  To him, his cartoon life is precious, and he plays that way.  To me that's boring, but to each his/her own.



I totally agree, and there are even a few more scenarios that I could come up with, but I do believe we both know what I am talking about. 

My post was not in any way ment to state that you score hor.   I was mearly responding to a posted statement.    :salute

Respectfully

Fred
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 21, 2008, 09:38:13 AM
I had nothing better to do one night so I chased a con two sectors all the way back to his base, and a friend. It was gavagai.

Maybe I was low on gas? :lol  It's true though that I feel no shame in extending away if it will maximize my effectiveness, and even more so if it ticks the enemy off. :devil

Btw, if I really wanted a good rank I'd have to do some field capture, but I haven't carried any troops all tour! :P
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 21, 2008, 02:07:54 PM

I dont up from a deacked field in a fighter when the hordlets are vulching either.  Does that mean I'm "preserving" my fighter/attack score?

There is a big difference from not taking off a base under attack and towering out of a GV when a bomb it about to hit you. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 21, 2008, 02:12:38 PM
Don't take it seriously.  Ackack has made it clear in the past that he doesn't care much for gv's in AH.

Yet, by his argument, towering out in an aircraft on the runway just before you are vulched is also gaming for score...reductio ad absurdum.

This has nothing to do with liking "GVs" or not and everything to do with being a limp wrist and gaming the game. 

For the record, it's not the GVs I don't like, I hop in them from time to time to mess around, it's the whiners like yourself that can't stop crying about how the big mean bullies in airplanes drop bombs on you.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 21, 2008, 02:16:11 PM
Lets see if I got this right.  Dropping eggs on a GV while the hanger(s) are up, is not someone trying to pad their score? 

Fred 

No, because that GV that was bombed would have to respawn with would take a couple of minutes which may be enough time for that enemy M3 to make it close enough to the map room to drop troops or giving a C47 a chance to get in.

Like someone mentioned in their posts, it's your $15.  If you want to be a tool and game the game, so be it but don't expect accolades.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 21, 2008, 02:26:41 PM
Maybe I was low on gas? :lol  It's true though that I feel no shame in extending away if it will maximize my effectiveness, and even more so if it ticks the enemy off. :devil

Btw, if I really wanted a good rank I'd have to do some field capture, but I haven't carried any troops all tour! :P

If you want to think you tick off the nme by running you are wrong.  Anyone who runs from a 1v1 two sectors to ack/friends has already lost.  It's just not part of the scored wins, it's far more precious.

In case you didn't notice, there are 5 different ranks (check the home page).  You don't get any boost in fighter rank for base captures. 

I would love to see a DA between you and SkatSr.  It would be a battle of fuel management as neither would engage..   An auger would define the winner. It would be hilarious...

:tool  < I can never get this emoticon to work...

Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 21, 2008, 02:29:44 PM
nm
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: hubsonfire on November 21, 2008, 02:30:26 PM
I tower out only to deny kills to people who aren't sharp enough to take the VH down first. I do not tower out for my score.

Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 21, 2008, 02:32:46 PM

I would love to see a DA between you and SkatSr.  It would be a battle of fuel management as neither would engage..   An auger would define the winner. It would be hilarious...

LOL, that's some funny stuff.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 21, 2008, 03:22:34 PM
I tower out only to deny kills to people who aren't sharp enough to take the VH down first. I do not tower out for my score.


Thank you.
I was saying something about that on 200 as they were hording that base.
They wasnt bombing the VHs. only GVs so they could get their name in lights.
and pad that K/D.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: bmwgs on November 21, 2008, 03:33:05 PM
No, because that GV that was bombed would have to respawn with would take a couple of minutes which may be enough time for that enemy M3 to make it close enough to the map room to drop troops or giving a C47 a chance to get in.

Like someone mentioned in their posts, it's your $15.  If you want to be a tool and game the game, so be it but don't expect accolades.


ack-ack

Your quite right, its my $16.00 (I live in Texas). 

As for a tool,  I have no idea what you mean, but I guess you are assuming that everytime a plane drops an egg on a GV there is a M3 or C47 on the way.  I guess your playing a different game than me, because it is rare that there is even a real effort in trying to take the base.  Its just another day to pad the score.  Of course you don't do that do you?

Fred
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Lye-El on November 21, 2008, 03:40:10 PM

They wasnt bombing the VHs. only GVs so they could get their name in lights.
and pad that K/D.  :rolleyes:

I see that a lot. If a couple friendly fighters show up they disappear. A VB with no close airfields is a prime location to find these guys.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 21, 2008, 03:55:56 PM
Thank you.
I was saying something about that on 200 as they were hording that base.
They wasnt bombing the VHs. only GVs so they could get their name in lights.
and pad that K/D.  :rolleyes:

You can say on 200 anything you like, but the facts are:

Have a nice day. enough of your whines .squelch BiPoLaR   Maybe some day we can see your other side.  The reasonable one.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Banshee7 on November 21, 2008, 03:59:14 PM
You can say on 200 anything you like, but the facts are:
  • Eight is not a "horde"
Since When?
  • A single A20 doesn't have enough ords to take out 3 hangers
true
  • I was the only air con with ords when you were (girly man) towering out.
no comment on that...pretty lame towering out though
  • I never landed any kills (and don't often)
I've noticed and can tell why
  • Have a nice day.
i will thank you
[/list]

Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 21, 2008, 04:18:30 PM
You can say on 200 anything you like, but the facts are:
  • Eight is not a "horde"
  • A single A20 doesn't have enough ords to take out 3 hangers
  • I was the only air con with ords when you were (girly man) towering out.
  • I never landed any kills (and don't often)
  • Have a nice day.

Have a nice day. enough of your whines .squelch BiPoLaR   Maybe some day we can see your other side.  The reasonable one.
no but the A20,2 typhs and the countless GVs that were there can.
8 for a Vbase is a horde...hell its a horde by any counts.
and i agree with banshee...we all see why you dont land kills


where can i pick up some ankle humper repellent?
Anyone?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Bronk on November 21, 2008, 04:22:40 PM



where can i pick up some ankle humper reliant?
Anyone?
Reliant anklehumper ehh...
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: MotleyCH on November 21, 2008, 04:24:22 PM
It's good of you to come out and apologize to the public.

 :salute
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 21, 2008, 05:22:47 PM
Banshee, we all know how you get your kills...
<edited out>

Banshee, what you do speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you say.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 21, 2008, 05:26:04 PM
This is getting interesting.   :D


Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: grizz441 on November 21, 2008, 05:31:09 PM
For anyone saying that bombing a GV 'pads' your score, you couldn't be anymore wrong.  Trying to bomb GV's actually hurts your score.  There's a stat in attack mode called Bomb %.  I'm not sure if hitting a GV is considered a successful bomb drop, but even if it is, dropping bombs on GV's when compared to building drops are very low percentage drops.  It's hard to hit a moving GV with a bomb.  And so what if you get him, you get 1 kill out of it?  Whoopy doo.  If someone wanted to pad their bomb % score, they'd only drop their bombs on towns buildings and rack up multiple hits with one bomb.  Dropping bombs on GV's has nothing to do with score.  It has more so to do with ending some twirps mission in his little tank.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: MotleyCH on November 21, 2008, 05:34:07 PM
All those other threads got lot locked posting that type of info, SCCA.

Start your own thread if you want to post accusations.  :)
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: MaSonZ on November 21, 2008, 05:37:37 PM
Banshee, we all know how you get your kills...

Exibit A (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Banshee7&kcnt=31&selectTour=LWTour106&pindex=72)

Explain to the jury of public opinion, how does one kill an Osti with a P-40E?

Man I love this new scores page...  At least Amsoil came clean.

Banshee, what you do speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you say.
why am i getting the feeling of "the first Witch Hunt" page? as Motley said:


All those other threads got lot locked posting that type of info, SCCA.

Start your own thread if you want to post accusations.  :)
here is not the place to do it. btw SCCA, killin an osti with a P40E is easy. its called a 500 lb BOMB. hell, ive lost osti turrets to hurri 1's. its not hard to kill GV's, sorry to bust your bubble, find nothing odd about Banshee's kills on the Osti and 251's. also, it said 31 kills on 1hunglo, so what, he got 31 kills on 1hunglo, 31 on gv's, coincidence? posibly, very possable i think.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 21, 2008, 05:37:48 PM
All those other threads got lot locked posting that type of info, SCCA.

Start your own thread if you want to post accusations.  :)
It's not an accusation at all...  But I will edit the post...
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: PFactorDave on November 21, 2008, 05:38:30 PM
Banshee, we all know how you get your kills...

Exibit A (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Banshee7&kcnt=31&selectTour=LWTour106&pindex=72)

Explain to the jury of public opinion, how does one kill an Osti with a P-40E?

Man I love this new scores page...  At least Amsoil came clean.

Banshee, what you do speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you say.

He already admitted what he was doing and why, you're late to the party.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Banshee7 on November 21, 2008, 06:16:51 PM
Banshee, we all know how you get your kills...
<edited out>

Banshee, what you do speaks so loudly, I can't hear what you say.

 :lol :rofl...so...do explain why you wouldn't DA me the other night?  You know..right after it took you (F4U-1), the other 613PUKE (F4U-1), a 109E, and an A6M more than 3 minutes to kill my low and slow Spit9?  Was it really because you don't DA "unhonest" players...or were you scared?  If I was in your shoes I'd be scared and ashamed to admit it, too.

When ever you grow a pair look me up...but right now you haven't even made an appearance in my book.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Banshee7 on November 21, 2008, 06:19:23 PM
He already admitted what he was doing and why, you're late to the party.

Thank you PFactor....Scca always seems to be a day late and a dollar short


AND another thing while i'm still kinda hot.  Look back at all my other tours....do you see anymore friend vulching? NO.  It was a one time deal and in the past...why bring it up?
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: MajIssue on November 21, 2008, 06:28:15 PM
Kudo's for "manning up". Hopefully it will be enough.

If I were you I would take advantage of the "instant" gameID change feature that was recently added and get a fresh start. Change countries and join a new squad and play honorably. It is ironic (no pun intended) that you felt the need to perk mine or score pad. You are a good enough player to have a good ranking without that nonsense.

Best of luck in the future. Hindsight is indeed 20/20. If all you have to worry about in your past is this, then you are way ahead of guys like me that have done some REALLY stupid things in the RW!
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 21, 2008, 06:33:57 PM
For anyone saying that bombing a GV 'pads' your score, you couldn't be anymore wrong.  Trying to bomb GV's actually hurts your score.  There's a stat in attack mode called Bomb %.  I'm not sure if hitting a GV is considered a successful bomb drop, but even if it is, dropping bombs on GV's when compared to building drops are very low percentage drops.  It's hard to hit a moving GV with a bomb.  And so what if you get him, you get 1 kill out of it?  Whoopy doo.  If someone wanted to pad their bomb % score, they'd only drop their bombs on towns buildings and rack up multiple hits with one bomb.  Dropping bombs on GV's has nothing to do with score.  It has more so to do with ending some twirps mission in his little tank.

Wrong.  Killing GV's with bombs improves K/D, K/S and K/H while causing a slight drop in Damage Hit% which can easily be refreshed with a single drop on a town or strat target.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: grizz441 on November 21, 2008, 07:44:03 PM
Assuming you hit the GV with your bomb, ask SHawk if he bombs tanks for score and if it helps, he could easily shed light on the subject since he is the zen master of scoring.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: caldera on November 21, 2008, 07:48:41 PM
I love bombing GVs, but not for score. It is just plain fun.   :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: sidey on November 21, 2008, 08:10:04 PM
Perhaps people "(score mongerers)" should take a long hard look at the culture they fuel within the game. So much smack talk and competetivness will surely drive the occasional player to extreme action.

This shade vulching crap goes on daily in EW, and im sure Sparks will fly from that comment.

Amsoils apology is tangible in only his recognition to the FEW <S> good blokes who are the real victims of this fool hardy venture. I remember when the AA's kicked out AAdiesel and another for hacking the code, (unlimited ammo) they exposed their own fellow and got him booted. It all blew over in a few weeks, much like this will, then we can lynch the next fool.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Steve on November 21, 2008, 08:46:21 PM
Perhaps people "(score mongerers)" should take a long hard look at the culture they fuel within the game. So much smack talk and competetivness will surely drive the occasional player to extreme action.



 :cry    :cry     :cry

Yes, it's society's fault.   
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: PFactorDave on November 21, 2008, 09:01:01 PM
Thank you PFactor....

You're welcome.  Even though I don't much like the whole shade/friend vulching thing, I am smart enough to take a look at your situation and decide that your infraction is minor and outweighed by your positive contributions to the community and the fact that you manned up on your own and took your own disciplinary measures.

 :aok
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: grizz441 on November 21, 2008, 09:03:27 PM
Yeah I never looked at Banshee's thing as 'cheating' or mass deception.  Since it was a very minor thing and he manned up to it, it's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 22, 2008, 12:00:47 AM
Assuming you hit the GV with your bomb, ask SHawk if he bombs tanks for score and if it helps, he could easily shed light on the subject since he is the zen master of scoring.

I do it all the time and I'm normally in the top 10-15 attack scores.  I almost never miss a GV with a bomb and can usually take out 4 GV's with 2x1000 lb bombs + 6 rockets in an F6F-5.  It's the easiest way to raise your attack score.  Of course, I don't fly attack if I'm out to kill planes.  Most of my sorites are in fighter mode.  I don't hide behind attack to preserve my fighter score.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: kj714 on November 22, 2008, 02:47:55 AM
Hey kid, it's a cartoon game. Hope you aren't beating yourself up too much, save that for RL stuff that really matters.
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Scca on November 22, 2008, 07:03:07 AM
:lol :rofl...so...do explain why you wouldn't DA me the other night?  You know..right after it took you (F4U-1), the other 613PUKE (F4U-1), a 109E, and an A6M more than 3 minutes to kill my low and slow Spit9?  Was it really because you don't DA "unhonest" players...or were you scared?  If I was in your shoes I'd be scared and ashamed to admit it, too.

When ever you grow a pair look me up...but right now you haven't even made an appearance in my book.

Yup, you got me figured out, I was scared. I bow down to your uberness.  Let it be known to the cyber world that I am afraid to have my 1's and 0's shot down by Banshee.  Oh the pain!! You are SO the man!

Feel better now? I know I do. :huh
Title: Re: Sorry to all...
Post by: Skuzzy on November 22, 2008, 07:11:45 AM
This one's done.