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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BaldEagl on April 01, 2009, 12:39:18 AM
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I logged on tonight for one sortie for the first time in a week or so.
Me on four on the deck with more piling in and I get HO'd. wtf.
And don't even try to tell me I could have avoided the HO. When the odds are that stacked it takes everything you've got just to avoid a fatal shot.
What a BS arena/game.
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I logged on tonight for one sortie for the first time in a week or so.
Me on four on the deck with more piling in and I get HO'd. wtf.
And don't even try to tell me I could have avoided the HO. When the odds are that stacked it takes everything you've got just to avoid a fatal shot.
What a BS arena/game.
take up reading or turtle wrangling :aok
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If i was in a low furball with several other cons i would take the face shot if i had it too. You dont let that opportunity go unless you want the express way back to tower yourself :salute
Either deal with it, or give us an "i quit" message ;)
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The rooks had so many 'starved for kills' individuals in one sector that an egress meant a fifteen minute fight to get rid of the stragglers hanging on to any visible sign of a target. Hilarious when you consider how a certain individual has singled out bish as the horde of all hordes and the recent appearance of 'should I kill or not' threads.
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See, you're an old hand. You know that if 1 comes at you, he's DEAD 99.9% of the time, 2 95%.
It is fun to be the cat playing with the mouse isn't it? And frustrating when the inevitable pwnage you are handing out through ACM magic is denied by the realities of multi-bandit combat.
Well, anyhow, I don't have any good answer for you for a 4-5v1, except to accept the fact that the MAs are no longer a 1-3v1-3 type environment, it is a horde v. horde environment where you constantly face unknown numbers, E-states, and types, and must struggle to fly accordingly.
We all know you're not going to cancel your account just because once in awhile a large enough horde of mice manages to get the cat...
I logged on tonight for one sortie for the first time in a week or so.
Me on four on the deck with more piling in and I get HO'd. wtf.
And don't even try to tell me I could have avoided the HO. When the odds are that stacked it takes everything you've got just to avoid a fatal shot.
What a BS arena/game.
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Why oh why is it every time someone gets shot in the face they come here cryin'?
:rock :rock :rofl
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Shooting someone in the back is the act of a coward. Anyone who has ever seen a western movie knows this :aok ;)
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Why oh why is it every time someone gets shot in the face they come here cryin'?
:rock :rock :rofl
Some people are criers with no one at home to cry to I guess.
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I think if HTC had 15 bucks for every "They HO'd me" wah wah threads they would probably cancel the $15.00 sub fee.
And don't even try to tell me I could have avoided the HO. When the odds are that stacked it takes everything you've got just to avoid a fatal shot.
You were in a 5v1, did you really expect it to be a 1v1 style fight? Could you not see that those 5 people were all trying to beat each other for the kill? Why you even think about dropping in to that situation? That in itself shows bad situational awareness so as far as the situation goes you got what you deserved.
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Tuesdays are now an 'Unlimited-Aircraft' event which you should decide ahead of time how to approach. On the upside in large numbers (as everyone learned in WWII) there are so many eyes in each group (and every one of them is thinking 'someone will see any danger') that no one is actually looking. No one gives check six calls so only those with great SA will see attacks and it is easy to score kills.
The downside is that not everyone can get a kill and so many people go hungry and become starved for a kill. Also if you are used to remaining low there will be great numbers to greet you and if you jump in on the middle of a conga line to clear someone then there will be check sixes and again you will be ganged.
Bombers tend to fly higher where they are harder to catch so they also stay out of the hordes reach.
During peak hours even the server starts to have problems and the radar gives unreliable information. The center of the map for instance never has an accurate dar bar.
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In a many vs. 1 type of dogfight, those on the superior side do compete with each other for the kill. There can be only one. The HO is the quickest mean of achieving this, it has to be timed right though. But those kind of hordlings have surley no idea about proper timing, so it turns into pure gambling, may the luckiest one get the kill (or collie for that matter). On the other hand, if those guys could do some ACM, which of course they can't, it would take too much time to set it up correctly - in the meantime 3 others had thier HO attempts and probably finished the job.
Great times indeed.
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Well, anyhow, I don't have any good answer for you for a 4-5v1, except to accept the fact that the MAs are no longer a 1-3v1-3 type environment, it is a horde v. horde environment
Small correction. It isn't horde v. horde, it's horde vs 2 or 3 defenders. :lol
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I logged on tonight for one sortie for the first time in a week or so.
Me on four on the deck with more piling in and I get HO'd. wtf.
And don't even try to tell me I could have avoided the HO. When the odds are that stacked it takes everything you've got just to avoid a fatal shot.
What a BS arena/game.
This surprises you on Titanic Tues? IIRC this sort of game play was one of the primary reasons the arena caps were imposed a few years back.
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I logged on tonight for one sortie for the first time in a week or so.
Me on four on the deck with more piling in and I get HO'd. wtf.
And don't even try to tell me I could have avoided the HO. When the odds are that stacked it takes everything you've got just to avoid a fatal shot.
What a BS arena/game.
YOU should've avoided the ho. if you didn't/couldn't you suck. at least that's what everyone tells me when i complain about it.
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If i was in a low furball with several other cons i would take the face shot if i had it too. You dont let that opportunity go unless you want the express way back to tower yourself :salute
Either deal with it, or give us an "i quit" message ;)
uumm.....they didn't have several cons., they had one.......he had several. there was no need for it.
that kinda poop is a large part of why i haven't been in the arenas in a couple of weeks.
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Why oh why is it every time someone gets shot in the face they come here cryin'?
:rock :rock :rofl
Why oh why is it every tom, dick, and twitlimp wants to go for HO shots on a plane thats already fighting 3+? Now, you can come in here and call it whining all you want...which it might be....but creating an atmosphere in the game where gettting HOd in a 1 vs 3 is the norm, and is defended by a growing number of numbtwits, is far worse....imo. :aok
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uumm.....they didn't have several cons., they had one.......he had several. there was no need for it.
that kinda poop is a large part of why i haven't been in the arenas in a couple of weeks.
There is never any _need_ for it but as said above they were prolly competing for the kill so the HO guy did what he could to get it.
Im not defending it, nor do i make a big deal of it when it happens to me. If you expect all of them to fall into a congaline and fight you one at a time in a gentlemen like fashion then the game is not for you. The trick is to have good SA and not get yourself into that position in the first place :)
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One thing that can be done to curb the 5 v 1 gang bangs and possibly help curb or deter potential HO Shots is to turn friendly fire and friendly collisions on.
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One thing that can be done to curb the 5 v 1 gang bangs and possibly help curb or deter potential HO Shots is to turn friendly fire and friendly collisions on.
Friendly collisions maybe, friendly fire on No IMO.
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One thing that can be done to curb the 5 v 1 gang bangs and possibly help curb or deter potential HO Shots is to turn friendly fire and friendly collisions on.
That will _never happen_. It would be very fun for one day to have it on but after that everyone would really really hate it. I know my squaddies would boot me from the squad before long :D
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I know my squaddies would boot me from the squad before long
:rofl
friendly collisions maybe, friendly fire on No IMO.
Why not? People complain about the Mob rule and HO'ers but few are reluctant to request a fix. It seems to me most would just rather complain about it. This is a solid fix one that would cut down on these types of situations that only end up clogging these boards up with posts from disgruntled victims.
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Because you wouldn't even make it off your own runway. :rofl
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ciaphas what you would have at every base will be guys vulching their own team repeatedly.
You wouldnt be able to do any missions or get to the enemy un molested. The dweebery will hit all new levels of stupidity.
Imagine this, a Bish 30 man mission gets posted and you think :rofl i'm going to up a 110 and vulch them all as they prepare to take off. etc.
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:rofl
Why not? People complain about the Mob rule and HO'ers but few are reluctant to request a fix. It seems to me most would just rather complain about it. This is a solid fix one that would cut down on these types of situations that only end up clogging these boards up with posts from disgruntled victims.
Think about all the 2 weekers who shoot at averything they see... red and green. The first time you get shot down by "mistake" by one of your fellow chesspieces you would want it turned off. Im betting it would happen within the first few sorties ;) Then you have those friendles that does it on purpose. I for one would shoot you down the first time i saw you (if you are a knit) just for suggesting it :D
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What about using roughly that same system that the training arena uses? When you get shot by a friendly it's the shooter that takes damage? So if enough is inflicted they fall out of the sky and you are left to your chase.
A system like this would negate being shot down by a friendly situation that you are referring to.
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There is never any _need_ for it but as said above they were prolly competing for the kill so the HO guy did what he could to get it.
If you need to "compete" with your countrymen for a kill, it's probably safe to assume that you're in a horde and should probably go somewhere else if you actually want to find a fight.
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If you need to "compete" with your countrymen for a kill, it's probably safe to assume that you're in a horde and should probably go somewhere else if you actually want to find a fight.
yes
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Why oh why is it every tom, dick, and twitlimp wants to go for HO shots on a plane thats already fighting 3+? Now, you can come in here and call it whining all you want...which it might be....but creating an atmosphere in the game where gettting HOd in a 1 vs 3 is the norm, and is defended by a growing number of numbtwits, is far worse....imo. :aok
Absolutely !!! ... I totally agree with BE on this one !!!
What some don't realize is that he is not really complaining about an HO ... it's the WHY ... what is the need for an HO in this situation.
I have the answer ... when a guy is fighting off 3 or more people, all of them are so intent on getting the kill before one of the others so they result in face-shooting ... and the ones that actually face-shoot in that situation most likely couldn't find their arse with both hands when it comes to actual ACM fighting.
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wtf.
Silly baldeagle man. Stop and consider:
They were immersed and Flying Like in Real Life. (Kill the Enemy. Kill him! Dead!)
They were Flying Smart. (Hey, they got back to their bases and you didn't, right?)
They were engaged in the refined chess-like game of Strategery (not that childish dogfighting Atari game thing).
It takes two to HO. (You had at least five.)
It has always been this way. (You must be very old, or at least have lost your mind, if you think things ever were different.)
So if you don't like it, well, hey, just quit!
- oldman
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there simply is nothing worse than a whiner. The whiner is the bane of AcesHigh. I tell you, being on vox and having to listen to the limp wristed ladies whine and complain is the most excruciating aspect of this game.
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This surprises you on Titanic Tues? IIRC this sort of game play was one of the primary reasons the arena caps were imposed a few years back.
A couple of whiners means arena caps? Because a few folks can't deal with a multi-fighter environment? Did the English whine when the Germans flew over England? Did the German's whine when the Allies came flew over Occupied Europe? Who had numerical numbers? The Germans over England or the Alliles over Germany? Who cares? It's a game.
Personally, I've always felt it was a mistake to cap arenas. That's my opinion which means the exactly the same as yours. I think it adds to the realism of battle when you are in a multi-enemy fighter environment. Whining just means you're to lazy to learn to deal with numbers. I wonder why most of the old players don't seem to have issues? How could that be?
Oh yeah, I got killed the other night because I got stupid and dropped in low to clear 3-4 off some guys 6 who dropped into a mess because that's how he likes to fly. I got one stayed in, got in too deep, pinged up another, died. Could I have avoided it? Yep. Did I know what I was about to do would probably get me kilt? Yep. The guy that dropped in and who actually had no SA did exactly what he wanted to do. I cleared his 6 once, twice but he still died. So did I for doing it. He was dead the second he went in low with those guys. I didn't have to die and could have overflown the fight, got my kills and landed them. Guess what? I never heard a peep outa him. No whines. We did what we wanted to do and actually had fun doing it. I also took a HO from another guy the same night. I was paying attention out front because I was in on some dude. I glanced forward and nearly tripped over myself trying to get outa some HOer's way and took a hit to my fuel. I bugged and managed to limp the 14 miles home in glide mode. No whines. It happens. It will not stop happening nor do I care.
Whining has a tendency to cheapen a persons credibility even if it is....just a game. Speaking of games I remember whiners actually brought the demise of a fighter sim game during the DOS days. A few whiners complained histerically about having too many people flying around every night, having to far to fly to fight. Lessee, 100 up flying and 10 miles to a fight. They got their wish. Fights were 5 miles or less and approximately 20-30 people flew nightly. Many players dropped their accounts and migrated to another game. The game closed its doors. Be careful what you might wish for.....
This really is not an attack on anyone. Just realizing it's a game in which you alone can set the rules you wish to fly by. If you die by HO say to yourself..."how did I get to this point?" You may not like the answer...you chose to do it.
Ren
It's official and was just announced....the # 1 cause of Death in Memphis is........................... ......................Murder.
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There is never any _need_ for it but as said above they were prolly competing for the kill so the HO guy did what he could to get it.
Im not defending it, nor do i make a big deal of it when it happens to me. If you expect all of them to fall into a congaline and fight you one at a time in a gentlemen like fashion then the game is not for you. The trick is to have good SA and not get yourself into that position in the first place :)
well, i had a fight back when i was still flying zeeks......me vs 4 or 5 of my ex squaddies.....they ALL kept taking the ho shots.......mostly missing. the killshots didn't come from anywhere near head on though......so it's not needed in that instance either.
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ciaphas what you would have at every base will be guys vulching their own team repeatedly.
You wouldnt be able to do any missions or get to the enemy un molested. The dweebery will hit all new levels of stupidity.
Imagine this, a Bish 30 man mission gets posted and you think :rofl i'm going to up a 110 and vulch them all as they prepare to take off. etc.
I like the idea, but you are right, so make it a "bad idea" in other words punish it by taking perk points away, and make it a lot, like 25 for every friendly killed, lol some would go way into the negative, but eventually they would learn.
To stop collisions on the runway make any plane with his tires on the tarmac, invulnerable from collisions and gunfire. but not bombs or rockets. that way vulching is pointless.
another Idea to get rid of the "hourd" mentality is, when a kill is achieved, the perk multiplier could be determined on the number of "friendlies" or "NME" in the area, with in so many yards, say 1000 or even 1,500. more friendlies on one nme con,= lowers the perk multiplier, but on the other hand, that lone con fighting the hourd = higher perk multiplier.
two things I think would really make this game great. well more so anyways.
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there simply is nothing worse than a whiner. The whiner is the bane of AcesHigh. I tell you, being on vox and having to listen to the limp wristed ladies whine and complain is the most excruciating aspect of this game.
I can detune whiners, and mouthers, ch200 smackers and squeaky crackers, and anything I don't have to take in....but unfortunately, I can't detune timid-cherry-picker ganger-HO-runner types... :aok
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To prevent same team killing do the following:
If team member "A" shoots at team member "B" have all damage redirected to team member "A". So if team member "A" would have caused a wing to fall off of team member "B" then team member "A"'s wing falls off instead while team member "B" takes no damage.
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Not hijacking but Sky...wacha doin home so early? Spring break? :cool:
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Not hijacking but Sky...wacha doin home so early? Spring break? :cool:
lunch break....baked chicken...yummmy! :aok
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:rofl
WTF is "smart" or "realistic" about risking a head-on collision with a bandit already on the defensive AND having a bunch of guys waste energy and SA by getting on the same bandit, instead of having at most two take care of it while the others build their E and keep watch?
See Bald, if it makes you feel any better, those 5 who got themselves low and slow swirling around with you undoubtedly themselves became victims of a higher horde when the next wave came in.
Silly baldeagle man. Stop and consider:
They were immersed and Flying Like in Real Life. (Kill the Enemy. Kill him! Dead!)
They were Flying Smart. (Hey, they got back to their bases and you didn't, right?)
They were engaged in the refined chess-like game of Strategery (not that childish dogfighting Atari game thing).
It takes two to HO. (You had at least five.)
It has always been this way. (You must be very old, or at least have lost your mind, if you think things ever were different.)
So if you don't like it, well, hey, just quit!
- oldman
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I can detune whiners, and mouthers, ch200 smackers and squeaky crackers, and anything I don't have to take in....but unfortunately, I can't detune timid-cherry-picker ganger-HO-runner types... :aok
whiner :aok
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A couple of whiners means arena caps? Because a few folks can't deal with a multi-fighter environment? Did the English whine when the Germans flew over England? Did the German's whine when the Allies came flew over Occupied Europe? Who had numerical numbers? The Germans over England or the Alliles over Germany? Who cares? It's a game.
Personally, I've always felt it was a mistake to cap arenas. That's my opinion which means the exactly the same as yours. I think it adds to the realism of battle when you are in a multi-enemy fighter environment. Whining just means you're to lazy to learn to deal with numbers. I wonder why most of the old players don't seem to have issues? How could that be?
Oh yeah, I got killed the other night because I got stupid and dropped in low to clear 3-4 off some guys 6 who dropped into a mess because that's how he likes to fly. I got one stayed in, got in too deep, pinged up another, died. Could I have avoided it? Yep. Did I know what I was about to do would probably get me kilt? Yep. The guy that dropped in and who actually had no SA did exactly what he wanted to do. I cleared his 6 once, twice but he still died. So did I for doing it. He was dead the second he went in low with those guys. I didn't have to die and could have overflown the fight, got my kills and landed them. Guess what? I never heard a peep outa him. No whines. We did what we wanted to do and actually had fun doing it. I also took a HO from another guy the same night. I was paying attention out front because I was in on some dude. I glanced forward and nearly tripped over myself trying to get outa some HOer's way and took a hit to my fuel. I bugged and managed to limp the 14 miles home in glide mode. No whines. It happens. It will not stop happening nor do I care.
Whining has a tendency to cheapen a persons credibility even if it is....just a game. Speaking of games I remember whiners actually brought the demise of a fighter sim game during the DOS days. A few whiners complained histerically about having too many people flying around every night, having to far to fly to fight. Lessee, 100 up flying and 10 miles to a fight. They got their wish. Fights were 5 miles or less and approximately 20-30 people flew nightly. Many players dropped their accounts and migrated to another game. The game closed its doors. Be careful what you might wish for.....
This really is not an attack on anyone. Just realizing it's a game in which you alone can set the rules you wish to fly by. If you die by HO say to yourself..."how did I get to this point?" You may not like the answer...you chose to do it.
Ren
It's official and was just announced....the # 1 cause of Death in Memphis is........................... ......................Murder.
I think you missed the jest of the original post. He had no problem with fighting multiples..... he was surprised that at least one of them was such a poor flyer as to have to HO.
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but creating an atmosphere in the game where gettting HOd in a 1 vs 3 is the norm, and is defended by a growing number of numbtwits, is far worse....imo. :aok
Were you playing AH before air warrior went tits up? vastly different community then, vastly different game then. Vastly more enjoyable then.
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uhm...
Ok so the guy sis fighting a horde and he doesn't pay attention to his 12, is it the oppositions fault or the guy not paying attention? This is a two way battle, one can argue about the lack of skill of the opposition and one can argue the poor SA of the guy not paying attention.
it will always go round and round.....
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uhm...
Ok so the guy sis fighting a horde and he doesn't pay attention to his 12, is the oppositions fault or the guy not paying attention? This is a two battle. One can argue about the lack of skill of the opposition and one can argue the poor SA of the guy not paying attention.
"Paying attention" rather effectively leaves the window as an argument when you are coming over the top at 90IAS with three behind and two in front.
State of the game. Unfortunately, 90% of the player base seems completely unable to successfully shoot down an aircraft unless the odds are stacked in a manner consistent with that experienced over Germany in April 1945.
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"Paying attention" rather effectively leaves the window as an argument when you are coming over the top at 90IAS with three behind and two in front.
90 IAS (Indicated Air Speed?): almost falling out of the sky = dead anyways
Regardless if you have one or thirty bandits chasing you.You already know what's behind by the time you get to 90 AIS being chased by 5 Bandits so the most important thing to look out for is what's in front of you. this of course you are not flying in a straight line as that type of flying can lead to a really fast trip tot he Control Tower.
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whiner :aok
timid runner HO type! :aok
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Were you playing AH before air warrior went tits up? vastly different community then, vastly different game then. Vastly more enjoyable then.
I started playing AH1 in july of '03
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IIRC this sort of game play was one of the primary reasons the arena caps were imposed a few years back.
You don't recall.
The HO sux but the OP made mistakes along the way, which caused him to get ganged.
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uhm...
Ok so the guy sis fighting a horde and he doesn't pay attention to his 12, is it the oppositions fault or the guy not paying attention? This is a two way battle, one can argue about the lack of skill of the opposition and one can argue the poor SA of the guy not paying attention.
it will always go round and round.....
let us get a straight answer out of you....do you condone HOing a fella that is already fighting 3 enemies?
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Why oh why is it every tom, dick, and twitlimp wants to go for HO shots on a plane thats already fighting 3+? Now, you can come in here and call it whining all you want...which it might be....but creating an atmosphere in the game where gettting HOd in a 1 vs 3 is the norm, and is defended by a growing number of numbtwits, is far worse....imo.
:aok
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From my perspective, this isnt about the ho per se, its about the requirement of when fighting multiple opponents, the side with the most (in this case the 5) have to ho to get the kill.
I actually agree with Skyrock on this one, why ho when you have a majority in numbers - apart from the mine mine mine syndrome???
Not a slam on anyone, you can fly how the hell you like, me, i'll fly the way I like ner :P
Wurzel
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let us get a straight answer out of you....do you condone HOing a fella that is already fighting 3 enemies?
Pansies HO when numerically advantaged.
Hell Mark, I had a thread about me on here last week that claimed "Karaya whined about me HO'ing him." In truth, I never whined nor said that. I merely eliminated the opportunity for him to HO and he still missed his shot. He took "you missed your HO attempt" as "You HO'd!".
This game is full of "exaggerations touted from a far." But yeah, when you're the lone plane taking on 3+ and you get HO'd, you still won the fight.
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No I don't condone HO'ing. Anyone that has shot me down or has had the chance to partake in a feeble dog fight with me knows that I usually die quickly and with grace, well as graceful as a brick plummeting to the earth. I'm not a score tallying type of driver unless you think counting my deaths and trying to beat my all time war high as score tallying. point being if I see a bunch of friendlies ganging 1 or 2 bandits I will stay out of the fray if the enemies end up besting the traveling circus that was following them I will give him a little time to recover and then initiate my own death in a graceful, burning inferno, screaming "WTF!?" manner.
Regardless if I condone it or not it still does not negate my previous statement.
This is a two way battle, one can argue about the lack of skill of the opposition and one can argue the poor SA of the guy not paying attention.
Do you see now why these threads are counter productive? This is what's referred to as a conundrum.
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Allow me to clarify:
I started out chasing a Pony to the deck in my XVI aware that there were many enemy cons around and no friendlies in the immediate vicinity. I had seen at least two Ponies, two Hogs, a Typh and a N1K below me just moments before so I knew it wasn't going to be a one on one.
The Pony tried unsuccessfully to force an overshoot when we reached the deck at which point we got into a turn fight and he was immediately joined by another Pony. After two turns there were four Ponies. I had taken a couple of minor pings manouvering to avoid the second pairs shots as they entered the fray. I had two in one view and two more in another view and was manouvering to try to get them all into a single view. I was having a very fun time at this point in the fight and almost had them all in the same view when I came out of a low yo-yo into another Pony coming HO. I had no choice at this point but to straighten the nose and try to gain enough E for a counter manouver but there was no time. He pulled the trigger.
I had no problem fighting multiple cons. I knew that was going to be the case. I didn't expect to live through it and my SA was just fine thank you.
My frustration is what's the point in HOing a guy in that situation? That Pony wasn't coming out of a turn. He was flat and level coming straight at me. He made no effort to do anything but pull the trigger and, I'd guess, puff up his chest.
I seriously hope that the other four Pony drivers chastised him for the HO. He ruined what was turning into one of the most fun fights I've had in a long time.
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yo-yo into another Pony coming HO
OK, what's the problem then, you are a victim of circumstance. Nothing more nothing less. Like you said you were going to gain speed for a counter but he pulled the trigger, it happens.
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From my perspective, this isnt about the ho per se, its about the requirement of when fighting multiple opponents, the side with the most (in this case the 5) have to ho to get the kill.
I actually agree with Skyrock on this one, why ho when you have a majority in numbers - apart from the mine mine mine syndrome???
Not a slam on anyone, you can fly how the hell you like, me, i'll fly the way I like ner :P
Wurzel
I do also but it's the situation you put yourself into. The "mine, mine, mine" concept comes from kill starved noob's. The HO guy comes from the same group. They are merely going about it differently. The environment will not change.
If that's a given and anyone who's flown for any length of time should know when any more than a 1v1 engagement is encountered the possibility exists for as many enemy fighters to jump in from any direction. as might be in the area. The "any direction" means if some noob sees you and you happened to be flying toward him as he comes in it really doesn't matter to him if you don't like HO's. It's his 50/50 chance at getting a kill one of the only ways he may know how.
As frustrating as it may be, you (ya'll) put yourself into that situation. So, the purpose of the :cry is?
Ren
To the best of my recollection no one has ever taught anyone to HO in the TA. It's a self-learned development.
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Agreed Ren, its not going to change. I consider myself one of the worst pilots ingame, but am continually striving to get better - I learn something every single time I up.
I've often put myself in a position where I've engaged more than 3 opponents (up to around 9 most of the time lol) and its my decisions that have put me there - that said, I can understand Balds frustration.
Wurzel
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90 IAS (Indicated Air Speed?): almost falling out of the sky = dead anyways
Regardless if you have one or thirty bandits chasing you.
True, but out of context.
Youre assuming its a defensive maneuver when it may very well be required to maintain an advantage over whoever you are fighting.
The problem with that, as you stated, is that it places you at a significant disadvantage against the other four guys hoping to add you to their Assist column.
Basically, you can choose who gets your kill because if you avoid pick after pick after pick, you will ultimately die to the first guy you engaged, who has had time to egress and come back. If you choose to remain engaged, one of the dweebs will eventually land a lucky hispano on your vert stab.
When the picks are HO's and its a 4 or 5v1 engagement... thats just stupid.
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another one of these? :noid
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turtle wrangling :aok
:rofl
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State of the game. Unfortunately, 90% of the player base seems completely unable to successfully shoot down an aircraft unless the odds are stacked in a manner consistent with that experienced over Germany in April 1945.
I don't think that's supportable. I lose at least as many "fair" 1-1 fights as I win, but I win some too, and I'm an average fighter pilot at best with a far from complete mastery of ACM and a middling fighter score. (Yeah, I know, score is BS, but how else can you compare yourself to people you don't run into often enough to learn firsthand?)
Maybe I'm only beating other mediocre pilots, but if I can get kills that don't involve HOing, vulching, or hiding in a horde, a lot more than 10% of players are capable of doing likewise, and if I'm killing mediocre pilots in more-or-less even fights on a regular basis, that means there are a fair number of mediocre pilots at least sometimes willing to risk a more-or-less even fight.
(And I'm not claiming that all my kills are in even fights against other fighters - just that a significant number of them are.)
I suspect a more accurate description is that many players either lack the confidence that they can successfully shoot down other aircraft, or or lack the skill to shoot down other aircraft often and consistently enough to make their score as lofty as they'd like, which leads them into less-than-sporting behaviors intended to pad their scores.
I'm still not convinced it's 90% though. I think more often it's just a case of laziness and following the path of least resistance - for example, taking the HO shot that's right in front of them even though it's a dumb move not because it's the only way they can kill, but because it's the action that requires the least thought or effort on their part right at that moment.
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Noobs :noid
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Shooting someone in the back is the act of a coward or someone who realizes that if you don't send them down, they will be back up to get you. (IRL). Anyone who has ever seen a western movie knows this :aok ;)