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Title: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: oTRALFZo on April 11, 2009, 11:57:03 PM
I pledge allegiance to my chess piece  :huh
Fellas this is a game. You are missing out on 2/3rds of the community if you stick with just one country. We came back bish to fly with a few Friends and I get " don't trust them, they switch sides"  :noid :noid :lol.
I can totally understand adopting one certain one that your more comfortable with, but don't shun the guys that are there to help you out.  :salute
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: StokesAk on April 12, 2009, 12:36:14 AM
They are skeerd of spiez.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Larry on April 12, 2009, 12:53:52 AM
<stands up>  Hi my name is Larry and I'm a spy. <sits down>
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: stodd on April 12, 2009, 01:14:43 AM
Hi, my name is Stodd. I only spy on Limb0's missions because he goes after TT bases. Two can play the dweeb (dween) game.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Scotch on April 12, 2009, 01:17:22 AM
I spy on stodd for limbo, but i'm really spying on limbo for stodd.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Masherbrum on April 12, 2009, 01:18:34 AM
I'll switch when I want to switch.   Those folks that "have a problem" with it, shouldn't be playing this game.    They should take up knitting and squawk to the the other ladies in the circle.  
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: stodd on April 12, 2009, 01:26:54 AM
I spy on stodd for limbo, but i'm really spying on limbo for stodd.
So does that mean we both get to call you a spy? :D



I'll switch when I want to switch.   Those folks that "have a problem" with it, shouldn't be playing this game.    They should take up knitting and squawk to the the other ladies in the circle.  
You sweeb!
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Larry on April 12, 2009, 02:02:41 AM
ZOMGSPYZ! (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/zomgspyz.ahf)
(Warning the guy in the film has a potty mouth.)

I have a better one but its about cheats and hax0rs. I kept killing someone and there were saying I "rig" the game. When I asked him why he didn't just send films into HTC he replied that it doesn't matter because, apparently, I give HT fellatio.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Geophro on April 12, 2009, 03:25:28 AM
Spectacular Dan/Guppy SAPP landing!   :rofl
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: trotter on April 12, 2009, 03:32:14 AM
The people that cry spy are the people that are hopeless in fighters, and are average at best in everything else. Their use of the horde makes them self-delusional as to their own skill level. Who cares about these people in game?
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Lusche on April 12, 2009, 05:36:41 AM
I spy all the time.
Two nights ago I provided my Bish overlords with the grid location and course of several Knight VBases...  :noid
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bmwgs on April 12, 2009, 05:54:11 AM
The people that cry spy are the people that are hopeless in fighters, and are average at best in everything else. Their use of the horde makes them self-delusional as to their own skill level. Who cares about these people in game?

I love the BBS.  Only 9 posts in about side switching, and now its the horde's fault.  Got to love this game.   :lol

Fred
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: thndregg on April 12, 2009, 08:19:55 AM
The people that cry spy are the people that are hopeless in fighters, and are average at best in everything else. Their use of the horde makes them self-delusional as to their own skill level. Who cares about these people in game?

I guess I fit because this is not my number one hobby.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: _vic_ on April 12, 2009, 08:38:57 AM
The people that cry spy are the people that are hopeless in fighters, and are average at best in everything else. Their use of the horde makes them self-delusional as to their own skill level. Who cares about these people in game?

It seems like quite a stretch to connect those dots, but you are entitled to your opinion.

The fact is, this kind of "home team" mentality is engrained in us from a very young age. Sporting industries rely on this mentality to survive - as do governments. Remember school spirit? Somehow your school was supposed to be better than the other neighboring schools? Online video games are a microcosm of real life social dynamics. It's a natural extension.

Of course, I don't care what side I fight for. The only reason I don't change teams often is because I think it would be embarrassing to get shot down by people that I normally fly with! I know this too is a strange social behavior...
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Hap on April 12, 2009, 08:39:27 AM
We need "Spy Squads," "Horde Squads," "Whiner Squads," and their anti-variants.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: mbailey on April 12, 2009, 08:43:36 AM
Was great flying with the Lynchmob while they were Rooks. Great bunch of guys,

We'll keep the hanger swept, and the bar stocked for you when you return

<S> Lynchmob
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Sol75 on April 12, 2009, 08:44:11 AM
I spy on the sheep

BAAAAA
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: PFactorDave on April 12, 2009, 08:45:38 AM
I was wondering when someone was going to start one of these threads...  Again...

[yawn]

Yet another thread where one sub-set of people is going to look down upon another sub-set of people.  Yet another thread where one sub-set of people is going to look down from their really high horse to tell another sub-set of people how they "should" be playing this little computer game.

Congrats to the original poster.  You're a real internet pioneer.  :P
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Shifty on April 12, 2009, 08:47:48 AM
I was wondering when someone was going to start one of these threads...  Again...

[yawn]

Yet another thread where one sub-set of people is going to look down upon another sub-set of people.  Yet another thread where one sub-set of people is going to look down from their really high horse to tell another sub-set of people how they "should" be playing this little computer game.

Congrats to the original poster.  You're a real internet pioneer.  :P

 :lol  Best post in the whole thread.  :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Dadsguns on April 12, 2009, 09:19:57 AM
:lol  Best post in the whole thread.  :aok

+1
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Banshee7 on April 12, 2009, 09:20:38 AM
I love the BBS.  Only 9 posts in about side switching, and now its the horde's fault.  Got to love this game.   :lol

Fred

Reason # 128 why I switch countries

(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/banshee7_2007/ahss41.jpg)
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: The Fugitive on April 12, 2009, 09:39:38 AM
I love the BBS.  Only 9 posts in about side switching, and now its the horde's fault.  Got to love this game.   :lol

Fred


You don't think the "horde" is part of the reason for side switching  :rolleyes: I very rarely switch side, but I will, for two reasons. 1st I was Bish for a long time and made a lot of friends there who still fly now and then. I'll switch to wing up with them. The second reason is to find a fight. If the horde is a rook horde hitting base after undefended base, or the horde is an "enemy" horde hitting base after base, then I'll switch to find a fight that DOESN'T have a horde.


It seems like quite a stretch to connect those dots, but you are entitled to your opinion.

The fact is, this kind of "home team" mentality is engrained in us from a very young age. Sporting industries rely on this mentality to survive - as do governments. Remember school spirit? Somehow your school was supposed to be better than the other neighboring schools? Online video games are a microcosm of real life social dynamics. It's a natural extension.

Of course, I don't care what side I fight for. The only reason I don't change teams often is because I think it would be embarrassing to get shot down by people that I normally fly with! I know this too is a strange social behavior...

I don't think its that big a stretch. Over all game play has gone down hill. Everyone these days is looking for the quickest easiest way to do anything in the game. Mediocre players make mediocre game play and count on the horde to survive long enough to get the "job" done. Its too much trouble and hard work to learn to play the game well, so most settle for average, or less.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: potsNpans on April 12, 2009, 09:44:28 AM
I'm with Banshee7(as if thats your real name :noid). Sure most chose the challenge of the uphill battle with the underdog. To beat back the ravenous horde. Only I usually am left with my bloodied stump for the task, 'ode to joy'.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Banshee7 on April 12, 2009, 09:44:41 AM
I usually switch sides to the low #s country because they lack the horde that the other countries have.  But..on weird occasions....The low # country will start hording undefended bases.  That's when I switch countries.


You don't think the "horde" is part of the reason for side switching  :rolleyes: I very rarely switch side, but I will, for two reasons. 1st I was Bish for a long time and made a lot of friends there who still fly now and then. I'll switch to wing up with them. The second reason is to find a fight. If the horde is a rook horde hitting base after undefended base, or the horde is an "enemy" horde hitting base after base, then I'll switch to find a fight that DOESN'T have a horde.


I don't think its that big a stretch. Over all game play has gone down hill. Everyone these days is looking for the quickest easiest way to do anything in the game. Mediocre players make mediocre game play and count on the horde to survive long enough to get the "job" done. Its too much trouble and hard work to learn to play the game well, so most settle for average, or less.

I agree with your post Fugitive  :salute

Oh, and I forgot to mention:

Reason #1 why I switch countries - To SPY on the knights

Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: B4Buster on April 12, 2009, 09:54:26 AM
Larry - excellent landing  :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: oTRALFZo on April 12, 2009, 09:56:00 AM
I was wondering when someone was going to start one of these threads...  Again...

[yawn]

Yet another thread where one sub-set of people is going to look down upon another sub-set of people.  Yet another thread where one sub-set of people is going to look down from their really high horse to tell another sub-set of people how they "should" be playing this little computer game.

Congrats to the original poster.  You're a real internet pioneer.  :P

And where do I ask is the part where I asked somone to "play my way"?.  Play the way you want,  was targeting a small group of ppl that went out of their way to PM and say "They are watching me". If you dont fall into this category, then dont worry about it. I had a ton of fun flyin with some old freinds.

oh and btw..I agree with the statment of  home team spirit, I think its great.  question though..When somone gets traded to your home team..do you call him a spy and untrustworthy?
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bj229r on April 12, 2009, 09:58:07 AM
Ya dont need spies--just pull out a hot-rod with cannons, sit on runway of ANY empty, unguarded base within easy reach of enemy airbase, (smoke cigarette, drink a beer, what have you), and eventually 15-20 noe dweebs will come your way, and they will assume you are a spy
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Anaxogoras on April 12, 2009, 10:06:27 AM
The people that cry spy are the people that are hopeless in fighters, and are average at best in everything else. Their use of the horde makes them self-delusional as to their own skill level.

And they always answer that it's important to win teh war, and blame furballers when their chess piece is losing the map.  Telling them that there's no winning or losing is like showing a dog a card trick.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 12, 2009, 10:07:24 AM
I was wondering when someone was going to start one of these threads...  Again...

[yawn]

Yet another thread where one sub-set of people is going to look down upon another sub-set of people.  Yet another thread where one sub-set of people is going to look down from their really high horse to tell another sub-set of people how they "should" be playing this little computer game.

Congrats to the original poster.  You're a real internet pioneer.  :P

Says the guy whose CO is a "Chess Piece Patriot"; You know someone that was born to lead the Bishops. Someone that is NEVER on his "high horse".

Come on....your little statement above is so hypocritical. I've witnessed your squad, namely your CO, berate people because they were attacking a base that you had planned an NOE to. I've witnessed your squad, namely your CO, accuse people of spying. I've witnessed your squad, namely your CO, give people crap because of how they were controlling the CV.

Before you accuse anyone of being on a "high-horse", I first think you should direct that frustration towards your CO.

Happy Easter

Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bj229r on April 12, 2009, 10:16:47 AM
And they always answer that it's important to win teh war, and blame furballers when their chess piece is losing the map.  Telling them that there's no winning or losing is like showing a dog a card trick.
Ok, that there's funny :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: falcon23 on April 12, 2009, 10:51:25 AM
Says the guy whose CO is a "Chess Piece Patriot"; You know someone that was born to lead the Bishops. Someone that is NEVER on his "high horse".

Come on....your little statement above is so hypocritical. I've witnessed your squad, namely your CO, berate people because they were attacking a base that you had planned an NOE to. I've witnessed your squad, namely your CO, accuse people of spying. I've witnessed your squad, namely your CO, give people crap because of how they were controlling the CV.

Before you accuse anyone of being on a "high-horse", I first think you should direct that frustration towards your CO.

Happy Easter



 You didnt have a problem with it when I was in your squad .. :D
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: grizz441 on April 12, 2009, 10:52:39 AM
I'm assuming that when the arenas were originally set up, they decided to make chess pieces the team names instead of countries.  Their intention perhaps was to deter over zealousness to a particular side.  Some people don't understand this and still pretend a chess piece is an actual 'country'.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bmwgs on April 12, 2009, 11:15:43 AM
Reason # 128 why I switch countries

(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/banshee7_2007/ahss41.jpg)

Happens on all sides.  I have to check, but I think I have a couple of snapshops of Knights and Rooks doing the same thing. If I didn't save them, it won't take long to get a few.  I don't know how to post a picture on the BBS anyway, but all sides horde.

To answer The Fugitive in this same post. I could care less who switches sides.  The point I was trying to make is this is a thread about side switching and all of a sudden its the hordes fault. 

Still love this forum.  Same story different thread.

Fred
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: caldera on April 12, 2009, 11:21:22 AM
I think Milli Vannilli tried both "Blame it on the Spies" and "Blame it on the Horde" before they struck paydirt.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 12, 2009, 11:38:55 AM
You didnt have a problem with it when I was in your squad .. :D

You were a lot different. Way more easy going.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: crazyivan on April 12, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
You were a lot different. Way more easy going.
i get alittle easy after 6 beers. ;) If that easter bunny craps in my yard one more time. I swear to ghad. :furious


Kill The Wabbit            BAAAAAAHHHH

(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa298/Kman0072/elmer_fudd.jpg)
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Banshee7 on April 12, 2009, 12:05:37 PM
Happens on all sides.  I have to check, but I think I have a couple of snapshops of Knights and Rooks doing the same thing. If I didn't save them, it won't take long to get a few.  I don't know how to post a picture on the BBS anyway, but all sides horde.


BUT..never...NEVER have I seen country channel filled with "JOIN MISSION!!!NEED 30 MORE PILOTS!!!"  while flying knight or rooks.  Yet when I'm bishop, they delete all mission with less than 15-20 people.  To them it takes 40 or more just to take a base.  This wasn't all about hording either.  AS you can see Rusty saying on 200 that 40 planes at a Vbase is overkill, I totally agree.  40 planes with ordnance will annihilate any base, regardless of Airfield, Port, or Vbase. 
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Steve on April 12, 2009, 12:48:48 PM
The point I was trying to make is this is a thread about side switching and all of a sudden its the hordes fault. 


Fred


Well to some degree it is the horde's "fault" for me switching sides;  indirectly though. Each time I log on it's the same:  Switch sides to the country with the lowest numbers, then head for the biggest enemy darbar, usually the one that is fighting the smallest friendly darbar. My motivition isn't some noble pursuit of equalling things out and I don't have a David-Goliath mentality. I like the idea of being surrounded by targets. I don't want to waste time wadering around looking for a fight. To me, the horde is a good thing. Sometimes they get me, sure but what fun would the game be if you won every time?  :salute
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bmwgs on April 12, 2009, 12:55:46 PM
BUT..never...NEVER have I seen country channel filled with "JOIN MISSION!!!NEED 30 MORE PILOTS!!!"  while flying knight or rooks.  Yet when I'm bishop, they delete all mission with less than 15-20 people.  To them it takes 40 or more just to take a base.  This wasn't all about hording either.  AS you can see Rusty saying on 200 that 40 planes at a Vbase is overkill, I totally agree.  40 planes with ordnance will annihilate any base, regardless of Airfield, Port, or Vbase. 

I play just about every day, and I can not remember the last time I saw a mission with 40 planes.  I don't fly very many missions with my squad, but when I do there are never that many.  I'm sure it does happen occasionally on Friday and Saturday nights, but the most I usually see is 10 - 20.  I have seen the Rooks and Knights come in with those same numbers many of times.  Just the other night, one of them, I don't remember which because I don't really pay any attention to which country I am fighting, they brought in about 10 bombers alone then a crap load of fighters behind them.  That's 30 bombers for one airfield.

I have also found when someone says 40 planes there are more likely 10.  I do the same thing, I see all those red dots and it looks a lot more than there actually is.  :salute

Fred
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bmwgs on April 12, 2009, 01:00:09 PM
Well to some degree it is the horde's "fault" for me switching sides;  indirectly though. Each time I log on it's the same:  Switch sides to the country with the lowest numbers, then head for the biggest enemy darbar, usually the one that is fighting the smallest friendly darbar. My motivition isn't some noble pursuit of equalling things out and I don't have a David-Goliath mentality. I like the idea of being surrounded by targets. I don't want to waste time wadering around looking for a fight. To me, the horde is a good thing. Sometimes they get me, sure but what fun would the game be if you won every time?  :salute

Steve I actually agree with you.  If someone wants to switch, I could care less for what reason, they should be able to.  I personally don't give a flip one way or another.  My argument was simply that side switching has little if anything to do with one side hording.   :salute

Fred
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: oTRALFZo on April 12, 2009, 01:09:39 PM
Steve I actually agree with you.  If someone wants to switch, I could care less for what reason, they should be able to.  I personally don't give a flip one way or another.  My argument was simply that side switching has little if anything to do with one side hording.   :salute

Fred

Which was the point of the thread BMW.. My gripe was intended to the few people who grief others that just want to play along side others for what ever reason. Im not targeting just bish. I see this a lot on rook and hear of it from certain nits. The guy that was shooting them down yesterday is now in green, but instead of embracing that guy for helping your cause, now they are on your side with some sort of agenda on their mind..bullcocky.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: USCH on April 12, 2009, 01:35:44 PM
My squad rotates every 2 months always on the 1st of the month. Yet i was called a spy 1 month after switching sides lol

I cant wait to "clear that guys six" in 4 months.... ( i may just take my time and kill the enemy after) :)
But seeing as i allready forgot his/her name i guess ill just clear him and move on
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: BnZs on April 12, 2009, 02:08:18 PM
Telling them that there's no winning or losing is like showing a dog a card trick.

Brilliant!

I always tell those who say we're "loosing the war" that THEY may be loosing their war, as long as I got pelts in the bag I'm winning *my* war.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: moot on April 12, 2009, 02:10:16 PM
Steve I actually agree with you.  If someone wants to switch, I could care less for what reason, they should be able to.  I personally don't give a flip one way or another.  My argument was simply that side switching has little if anything to do with one side hording.   :salute

Fred
wrong
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Steve on April 12, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
wrong

No offense Fred but Moot is right, at least as far as my thought process goes(I won't speak for others), as I've stated.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bmwgs on April 12, 2009, 02:29:28 PM
No offense Fred but Moot is right, at least as far as my thought process goes(I won't speak for others), as I've stated.

I guess I'm not getting my point across.  I'll say it again a little differently.

I don't care if someone switches sides.  I don't treat them any differently than anyone else. I am saying, let me make sure I am clear here,  because someone switches sides, I do not think it leads to hording.  Matter of fact, I would think it would have more of the oppsite effect. 

So my point is, there is very little, if any, effect that switching sides has anything to do with hording, so why was hording even brought up in this thread.  That is my point.

I hope I am clear this time.   :salute

Fred
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: moot on April 12, 2009, 02:29:35 PM
Horde = target rich if you're opposite = target poor if you're with em.
The first instance of horde, "why hording was brought up in this thread", is that people who cry spy are no good in fighters and more or less consequently horde. No relation with switching... The link I see between hordes and switching is the other way around from yours.  Hordes cause switching. I don't see switching causing hordes as significantly prevalent ..
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Steve on April 12, 2009, 02:31:59 PM
I  because someone switches sides I do not think it leads to hording.  Matter of fact I would think it would have more of the oppsite effect. 


Quite right. For myself and my mates, the hordeing leads to side switching.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bmwgs on April 12, 2009, 02:43:06 PM
Horde = target rich if you're opposite = target poor if you're with em.
The first instance of horde, "why hording was brought up in this thread", is that people who cry spy are no good in fighters and more or less consequently horde. No relation with switching... The link I see between hordes and switching is the other way around from yours.  Hordes cause switching. I don't see switching causing hordes as significantly prevalent ..

What part of my posts did you not read?  The other way around from me?

Here is the first post.

 
I pledge allegiance to my chess piece  :huh
Fellas this is a game. You are missing out on 2/3rds of the community if you stick with just one country. We came back bish to fly with a few Friends and I get " don't trust them, they switch sides"  :noid :noid :lol.
I can totally understand adopting one certain one that your more comfortable with, but don't shun the guys that are there to help you out.  :salute


Where does it state or criticizes someones fighting ability (skill)?  Where does it make any statement concerning hording effects side switching? It is simply a post criticizing how people who switch sides are treated.  I also happen to agree with TRALFZ that this happens.

I give up, you just stated what I have been saying, but you state I'm not saying it.

I surrender.

Fred 
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: moot on April 12, 2009, 03:01:00 PM
Quote
Where does it state or criticizes someones fighting ability (skill)?  Where does it make any statement concerning hording effects side switching? It is simply a post criticizing how people who switch sides are treated.  I also happen to agree with TRALFZ that this happens.
why was hording even brought up in this thread. 
viz.
The people that cry spy are the people that are hopeless in fighters, and are average at best in everything else. Their use of the horde makes them self-delusional as to their own skill level. Who cares about these people in game?


Quote
I am saying, let me make sure I am clear here,  because someone switches sides, I do not think it leads to hording.  Matter of fact, I would think it would have more of the oppsite effect.
So you're saying hording leads people to stay on that side and join in on the hording?
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bmwgs on April 12, 2009, 03:28:53 PM
Moot, I stand corrected, I did miss an important sentence in your post.

Horde = target rich if you're opposite = target poor if you're with em.
The first instance of horde, "why hording was brought up in this thread", is that people who cry spy are no good in fighters and more or less consequently horde. No relation with switching... The link I see between hordes and switching is the other way around from yours.  Hordes cause switching. I don't see switching causing hordes as significantly prevalent ..

The link I see between hordes and switching is the other way around from yours.

I guess you need to tell me what my opinion is.  I guess I need to go back and review my posts to see if I was unclear about something.  My only opinion is, I think side switching has very little or no effect or wheather a county is conducting horde missions.

Actually I don't think I really offered any opinion other than I don't think side switching has any real effect one way or another.  I don't think it causes hordes or defeats them.  I don't think players switch because of the hordes, I think they switch because of numbers, or maybe they just want to fly with some friends.

My point is and was in my first post, though I may have been unclear, this thread is about how people who switch sides, for any reason, are often treated differently by players of certain countries.  I happen to agree that this happens, and I don't think this is the attitude players should exhibit.  In my first post I was just making a point as to why hording was even brought up, since I feel side switching has no impact one way or another. 

Hordes cause switching. I don't see switching causing hordes as significantly prevalent ..

I agree with you that switching sides is little or no impact on hording, but I don't necessarily agree that people switching because of horde missions is in any way an impact on the game.  That is my opinion, I have no statistics to support my position.

Fred
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: StokesAk on April 12, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
Well. If there is a horde on a country would you rather:

1-Stay in the horde get only assists maybe 1 kill run out of fuel, land and repeat?
                                        Or
2-Switch countries and go kill people in the horde then run away and land?

Option #1 seems like a huge waste of time to me.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: smokey23 on April 12, 2009, 05:04:24 PM
I agree tralf we have fun hoppin around when we get the urge to. We get to say high and fly with those we have either been shot down by or shot down in the past. Those that vow their allegiance to one chess piece really do miss out. :rock :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: sethipus on April 12, 2009, 05:18:48 PM
My squad, VF 15 Satan's Playmates, play Knights.  So I play Knight when my squadmates are around.  Often, they aren't.  Then I'll either fly with some other Knight squad, or if some Killuminatis are on, I'll switch to Bish and fight with them.  I'm a member of the Killuminatis in the Friday Squad Ops special events arena.

I used to hold this "I'm a knight" identity pretty seriously, and think badly of switching sides, but then I got involved in the FSO (friday squad ops) and scenarios, and started flying with a lot of different people, who play on different sides in the MAs.  I would be flying with guys I knew as Bish or Rooks in the MAs, and killing guys who I knew as Knights in the MAs.

It made me realize that it doesn't really matter which side I'm on.  The game is the same, only the names are changed.  And once you get to know enough of the people from the "other side", it becomes fun to go over and fly with them sometimes too.

That being said, I don't take any information with me when I switch, such as the location of Knight or Bish CV groups, or planned missions or whatever.  Doing that would be pretty lame.

ps:  oh, and I don't go Rook.  Yeck, that would be just awful...   :devil
pps:  just kidding, though I seriously haven't found any good reasons to go rook for a very long time.   :rock
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: SectorNine50 on April 12, 2009, 05:42:19 PM
I've flown bishop for my entire AH career (I have flown knights briefly though).  Reason being, I never felt the need to switch, plus my squad is all bish.

Anyway, the other night I actually got accused of spying... when I was on the bishop side... after I had just logged in... and said "Heya bish, anything good?"

I couldn't believe it... :confused:
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Dadsguns on April 13, 2009, 08:31:39 AM
Yet when I'm bishop, they delete all mission with less than 15-20 people.  To them it takes 40 or more just to take a base.  

Exaggeration's:

 :rofl  I bet you tell your "significant other" (pc) that your 2 inches is the norm too.......   :rofl


I don't think players switch because of the hordes, I think they switch because of numbers, or maybe they just want to fly with some friends.

I agree with you BMW, This has obviously redefined itself according to some, since it was discussed before that switching sides was to even out the numbers to prevent a cap on the amount of players in an arena from HT, and now its because of hordes?   :rolleyes:   

Somebody make up my mind.....
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: crazyivan on April 13, 2009, 09:12:54 AM
My squad, VF 15 Satan's Playmates, play Knights.  So I play Knight when my squadmates are around.  Often, they aren't.  Then I'll either fly with some other Knight squad, or if some Killuminatis are on, I'll switch to Bish and fight with them.  I'm a member of the Killuminatis in the Friday Squad Ops special events arena.

I used to hold this "I'm a knight" identity pretty seriously, and think badly of switching sides, but then I got involved in the FSO (friday squad ops) and scenarios, and started flying with a lot of different people, who play on different sides in the MAs.  I would be flying with guys I knew as Bish or Rooks in the MAs, and killing guys who I knew as Knights in the MAs.

It made me realize that it doesn't really matter which side I'm on.  The game is the same, only the names are changed.  And once you get to know enough of the people from the "other side", it becomes fun to go over and fly with them sometimes too.

That being said, I don't take any information with me when I switch, such as the location of Knight or Bish CV groups, or planned missions or whatever.  Doing that would be pretty lame.

ps:  oh, and I don't go Rook.  Yeck, that would be just awful...   :devil
pps:  just kidding, though I seriously haven't found any good reasons to go rook for a very long time.   :rock
And you steal  peoples SEA  squad! :D
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: waystin2 on April 13, 2009, 09:18:33 AM
Hello All,

The Pigs on The Wing have a 9+ year tradition of fighting for the Knights only.  I think no more or no less of those that choose to swap around or have no squad traditions like my own.  Fly and fight where you are happy!

Have a great day,

Way
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Twist on April 13, 2009, 02:43:24 PM
I was a Bz-lander in AW3 and came over here with a squad as a Rook. I've been with 4 Rook squads over the years, never felt like I was missing out on anything and still don't.

I did switch to bish once, just for a change of pace. Upon my return they burned my clothes and I had to go through delousing before they let me back into Rookland. The things I saw...still give me nightmares. I saw ten guys chase down one sheep and thought there was something oddly familiar about that scene. And they have this bar they tried to get me into, The Blue Oyster I think it was....well I won't spoil the surprise, you find out for yourself.

I say to each his own, it's their money and time.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bongaroo on April 13, 2009, 02:51:04 PM
I love the BBS.  Only 9 posts in about side switching, and now its the horde's fault.  Got to love this game.   :lol

Fred

It's always the hordes fault... :uhoh
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: LLogann on April 13, 2009, 02:54:12 PM
Wait one darn second....................... ...







We have spies?
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Banshee7 on April 13, 2009, 03:38:27 PM
Exaggeration's:

Exaggerations my foot.  The only time I ever see "NEED 30 MORE PILOTS FOR MISSION" when the mission already has 10 (which can be a significant mission with the right planner) is when I'm bishop.  And No...it wasn't some FNG, it was some well "respected" players among the bish (i.e. their top Armchair Generals).

Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Dadsguns on April 13, 2009, 04:11:03 PM
"NEED 30 MORE PILOTS FOR MISSION" it was some well "respected" players among the bish (i.e. their top Armchair Generals).

Who could that be? As far as I know there isnt any respectable bish players are there?   :devil  Had to be a FNG.l...

Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: FALCONWING on April 13, 2009, 06:45:49 PM
I pledge allegiance to my chess piece  :huh
Fellas this is a game. You are missing out on 2/3rds of the community if you stick with just one country. We came back bish to fly with a few Friends and I get " don't trust them, they switch sides"  :noid :noid :lol.
I can totally understand adopting one certain one that your more comfortable with, but don't shun the guys that are there to help you out.  :salute


Tell ya what....dont come bish :aok

I am assuming you are referring to the saturday conversation when you and your pal twentyfo came bish and immediately began assuming cv command and moving bish cvs into harms way...

He was asked to shove off and he of course began overwhelming country ch with his typical nonsense.....

Your squad "Lynchmob" post in here often about how terrible bish are for their missions and that is why you guys left bish....

You then jumped in and began saying how could we be so uncivil..i told you twentyfo is a fool and you told me he was your squaddie.....

I told you to choose your acquaintances more carefully....they reflect your character....

You showed your true character by starting this thread....

try this...if you want to fly another country that your squad isn't based out of...then:

1. shut up and fly
2. quit making a fool of yourself
3. don't assume command of cvs etc.
4. enjoy your friends on their channel

BTW at that time bish outnumbered rooks and knights badly so eny was crap..i moved to the other arena when cap was raised and to get away from you... I'm more convinced you were over there to milkrun your own buddies...

I would be happy to post the film of the text buffer....i also took screenshots of twentyfo saying he was going to send info of all bish missions etc to whatever country we were attacking......

Idiot...

Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 13, 2009, 08:10:32 PM
The people that cry spy are the people that are hopeless in fighters, and are average at best in everything else. Their use of the horde makes them self-delusional as to their own skill level. Who cares about these people in game?

You've got a good point.  I have never heard the ones that are good calling anyone else a spy, just the crappy players.


ack-ack
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: redman555 on April 13, 2009, 08:32:26 PM
well when your squad is based on one country its kinda hard 2 change, so you end up hating the others  :D  :rolleyes:



-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: oTRALFZo on April 13, 2009, 09:16:46 PM
Tell ya what....dont come bish :aok





hmm, what can you do?..revoke my bish passport? Sir, I'll fly where ever my squaddies and I choose to fly.

Tell ya what....dont come bish :aok

I am assuming you are referring to the saturday conversation when you and your pal twentyfo came bish and immediately began assuming cv command and moving bish cvs into harms way...

He was asked to shove off and he of course began overwhelming country ch with his typical nonsense.....


That was a small factor of what went on. The cake was when some nub I never heard of PMd me "side switching scum".  He proceeded to PM a few other squaddies with the same nonsense. Point of the thread to get it into these people that it IS A GAME and dont get your E feelings hurt when someone decides to go to the "darkside".
Twentyfo did assume that CV yes. If you bothered to check to see what was going on, you would find he was in the guns trying to get a better firing solution. When your buddies took it from him..THEY sunk it, not him.


You then jumped in and began saying how could we be so uncivil..i told you twentyfo is a fool and you told me he was your squaddie.....

I told you to choose your acquaintances more carefully....they reflect your character....


Reflect my character? Does this mean my respect for the BOPs are down the toilet because of one of their squaddies decided to go renegade on the BBS? NOPE, I miss guys like THundregg and DIver. Good guys to fly with and lots of fun to fight against. You sir, take this game wayy too seriously. As far as backing up Twentyfo...its what squaddies do if they feel theyve been done an injustice. You gotta know, what comes out of his mouth 99% of the time is banter..and just that. Cmon..the guy posts a NOE GV mission..you gotta laugh or get a chuckle.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Banshee7 on April 13, 2009, 10:44:10 PM
You've got a good point.  I have never heard the ones that are good calling anyone else a spy, just the crappy players.


ack-ack

Same.....except for that Tec guy...I think he's paranoid, too.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 13, 2009, 10:48:21 PM
I am assuming you are referring to the saturday conversation when you and your pal twentyfo came bish and immediately began assuming cv command and moving bish cvs into harms way...

He was asked to shove off and he of course began overwhelming country ch with his typical nonsense.....

Your squad "Lynchmob" post in here often about how terrible bish are for their missions and that is why you guys left bish....

You then jumped in and began saying how could we be so uncivil..i told you twentyfo is a fool and you told me he was your squaddie.....

1. shut up and fly
2. quit making a fool of yourself
3. don't assume command of cvs etc.
4. enjoy your friends on their channel

BTW at that time bish outnumbered rooks and knights badly so eny was crap..i moved to the other arena when cap was raised and to get away from you... I'm more convinced you were over there to milkrun your own buddies...

I would be happy to post the film of the text buffer....i also took screenshots of twentyfo saying he was going to send info of all bish missions etc to whatever country we were attacking......


The above is the definition of a chess piece patriot. Hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

The whole CV situation was pretty funny and pathetic as well. As soon as I took control of the CV, I heard accusations of being a spy. Little did those accusers know that an enemy CV was right near ours. I positioned the CV so all guns could fire at the enemy ship. I had just fired my first salvo on the enemy ship and nailed it. Unfortunately, that was all the gunning I was able to do because someone took control of the CV and re-positioned it. To make a long story short, our cruiser was almost instantly destroyed followed shortly by our CV.

This past Easter weekend was intended for the Lynchmob to fly with some old friends. Fortunately, we were able to do that. However, we couldn't count the number of accusations of spying or comments regarding how unwelcome we were. Even after we had helped capture or defend a base.

Last night, when we ended our endeavor, we were greeted with open arms by our Rook countrymen. There were no accusations of spying or unwelcome comments whatsoever. As I remember the same could be said about the Knights when we flew with them several months ago.

Bish (the only country besides rook that I've flown on recently)....We, as a squad, were just like you. For the 2+ plus years as Bishop's, we swore on everything that we would stay there forever. Well, that got kind of old once the Mob completed a 3 month tour of all the countries. We finally realized that this game is about your squaddies and the friends you have met along the way (from all sides).

I encourage every "chess piece loyal" player/squad to go on a tour, even if lasts a weekend.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Larry on April 13, 2009, 10:57:57 PM
2. quit making a fool of yourself

Idiot...




Oh the irony.

Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Tec on April 14, 2009, 01:40:17 AM
Same.....except for that Tec guy...I think he's paranoid, too.

Look at bomber score!  :P
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: FALCONWING on April 14, 2009, 08:29:14 AM
The above is the definition of a chess piece patriot. Hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

The whole CV situation was pretty funny and pathetic as well. As soon as I took control of the CV, I heard accusations of being a spy. Little did those accusers know that an enemy CV was right near ours. I positioned the CV so all guns could fire at the enemy ship. I had just fired my first salvo on the enemy ship and nailed it. Unfortunately, that was all the gunning I was able to do because someone took control of the CV and re-positioned it. To make a long story short, our cruiser was almost instantly destroyed followed shortly by our CV.

This past Easter weekend was intended for the Lynchmob to fly with some old friends. Fortunately, we were able to do that. However, we couldn't count the number of accusations of spying or comments regarding how unwelcome we were. Even after we had helped capture or defend a base.

Last night, when we ended our endeavor, we were greeted with open arms by our Rook countrymen. There were no accusations of spying or unwelcome comments whatsoever. As I remember the same could be said about the Knights when we flew with them several months ago.

Bish (the only country besides rook that I've flown on recently)....We, as a squad, were just like you. For the 2+ plus years as Bishop's, we swore on everything that we would stay there forever. Well, that got kind of old once the Mob completed a 3 month tour of all the countries. We finally realized that this game is about your squaddies and the friends you have met along the way (from all sides).

I encourage every "chess piece loyal" player/squad to go on a tour, even if lasts a weekend.

I understand you and trafalz are trying to make this into some "they think we are spies" or a "chess piece loyalty" issue but if you read my post you MIGHT understand what causes YOU to be unwelcome is your behavior...this was the third time I witnessed your behavior and unpleasant interactions (coming over and trying to assume control of bish operations when you are very vocal about how "bad" the bish are)...it was the first time I chose to intervene....

Maybe you would like me to post the film of you private voxing me 2 weeks ago...I came back from eating dinner to hear you screeching about how terrible I was for some mission against the rooks...You were vulgar and clueless....I turned on the film and recorded it.....if i didnt know better I would swear you were Storch reincarnated...

This is not isolated and I have heard other bish complain about the same behaviors...

Lots of folks rotate countries and are welcomed (banshee7 and karaya inthe 303rd come to mind)  They fly on our vox and are welcomed.  Even though I am not a fan of the muppets they are a good example of a squad who dont have a specific country and yet you rarely see folks asking them to leave....

So lets put things into the proper perspective shall we???  I didnt send the film into HTC because i assumed you were having a bad night....perhaps you do deserve a break from the game.....
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bongaroo on April 14, 2009, 08:42:28 AM
I understand you and trafalz are trying to make this into some "they think we are spies" or a "chess piece loyalty" issue but...blah blah blah...

So lets put things into the proper perspective shall we???  I didnt send the film into HTC because i assumed you were having a bad night....perhaps you do deserve a break from the game.....

Did you miss the thread title?  I'm pretty sure this is all about making fun of people who get too attached to a chess piece.

 :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: waystin2 on April 14, 2009, 08:56:05 AM
I see no reason to make fun of anyone who is for one reason or another loyal to a specific country.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 14, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
<stands up>  Hi my name is Larry and I'm a spy. <sits down>

sP1ez aer dumm3r then ah bag 'o ROX!!11
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: FALCONWING on April 14, 2009, 10:39:04 AM
Did you miss the thread title?  I'm pretty sure this is all about making fun of people who get too attached to a chess piece.

 :aok

I understand sir...but the actual episode he was referring too had nothing to do with chess piece loyalty...it had to do with an annoying player spamming country ch....so this thread is based on an incorrect premise...it insinuated that the bish were upset with all Lynchmob because they were no longer bish...honestly I dont think most bish ever gave a second thought to it...they were not one of the squads i would miss...

Your fair response might be "since when have facts ever influenced the starting of a thread?"  and i would have to throw in the towel of defeat.... :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bongaroo on April 14, 2009, 12:15:47 PM
I see no reason to make fun of anyone who is for one reason or another loyal to a specific country.

And why not?  Give me one reason that isn't silly as to why anyone should be die hard loyal to a chess piece in Aces High 2.

Here, I'll mock some likely responses:

1) It's where all my friends fly!

Easy, meet some new people and make more friends!  If you only stick to one country all the time your missing 2/3's of the fun.

2) But we have to win the war for our country.

Way to easy.  So easy I won't even get started on it.

3) My squad doesn't allow it.

This has to be the lamest excuse I've ever heard for not trying out another chess piece.  Your probably in the wrong squad if this is the case.  Are they so paranoid that they will be accused of spying (omg!) that the squad as a whole says you stay one country or you are out?  I wonder how many people belong to these squads and also moan about ENY or being so horribly outnumbered at other times?

The list goes on, but I really doubt your going to come up with a good reason why everyone shouldn't try out the other chess pieces from time to time.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 14, 2009, 12:28:14 PM
Maybe since I haven't played in awhile but some in this community sure like to cry and moan about some of the most moronic and assinine things.  Seriously, a multi-page thread on whether or not switching countries or not is dweebish?  Who cares if someone likes to switch sides?  Who cares if someone likes to fly for a particular country?

Some of you have to take that pacifier out of your mouths and grow some balls.


ack-ack
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bmwgs on April 14, 2009, 12:30:14 PM
And why not?  Give me one reason that isn't silly as to why anyone should be die hard loyal to a chess piece in Aces High 2.

Here, I'll mock some likely responses:

1) It's where all my friends fly!

Easy, meet some new people and make more friends!  If you only stick to one country all the time your missing 2/3's of the fun.

2) But we have to win the war for our country.

Way to easy.  So easy I won't even get started on it.

3) My squad doesn't allow it.

This has to be the lamest excuse I've ever heard for not trying out another chess piece.  Your probably in the wrong squad if this is the case.  Are they so paranoid that they will be accused of spying (omg!) that the squad as a whole says you stay one country or you are out?  I wonder how many people belong to these squads and also moan about ENY or being so horribly outnumbered at other times?

The list goes on, but I really doubt your going to come up with a good reason why everyone shouldn't try out the other chess pieces from time to time.




You call them excuses, others call them reasons.  Who is to decide which is which, or which is right or wrong?  Don't tell me the communtiy, because it can not even agree.

Fred
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 14, 2009, 12:35:15 PM
I understand you and trafalz are trying to make this into some "they think we are spies" or a "chess piece loyalty" issue but if you read my post you MIGHT understand what causes YOU to be unwelcome is your behavior...this was the third time I witnessed your behavior and unpleasant interactions (coming over and trying to assume control of bish operations when you are very vocal about how "bad" the bish are)...it was the first time I chose to intervene....

Maybe you would like me to post the film of you private voxing me 2 weeks ago...I came back from eating dinner to hear you screeching about how terrible I was for some mission against the rooks...You were vulgar and clueless....I turned on the film and recorded it.....if i didnt know better I would swear you were Storch reincarnated...

This is not isolated and I have heard other bish complain about the same behaviors...

Lots of folks rotate countries and are welcomed (banshee7 and karaya inthe 303rd come to mind)  They fly on our vox and are welcomed.  Even though I am not a fan of the muppets they are a good example of a squad who dont have a specific country and yet you rarely see folks asking them to leave....

So lets put things into the proper perspective shall we???  I didnt send the film into HTC because i assumed you were having a bad night....perhaps you do deserve a break from the game.....

The time I private voxed you was in regards to getting mass chat reported. I discussed this issue with Skuzzy the next day. He reviewed the text and the suspension was lifted.

I don't play this game for you or anyone's approval. Actually, if I piss you off, then mission accomplished. Is it personal? Absolutely not. You are the one, being a Chess Piece Patriot and all, who was left with a sour taste in your mouth. Lighten up a little. I can tell you that most of what I say in game has some sense of humor in it. Most people don't get it.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: FALCONWING on April 14, 2009, 01:47:59 PM
Maybe since I haven't played in awhile but some in this community sure like to cry and moan about some of the most moronic and assinine things.  Seriously, a multi-page thread on whether or not switching countries or not is dweebish?  Who cares if someone likes to switch sides?  Who cares if someone likes to fly for a particular country?

Some of you have to take that pacifier out of your mouths and grow some balls.


ack-ack

Sigh...I find myself in total agreement with ack-ack.... :t

There are loners and there are group people...simple

There are many reasons folks switch sides:

1.  Better fun/fights the way they want it
2.  Meet more people
3.  Different experiences
4.  Burnout
5.  Griefing
6.  Spying
7.  Milkrunning strats

The problem is noone knows for sure why someone is switching so their behaviors tend to be what they are judged upon...

and yes...many would be shocked by the names of folks who have pm'd me with noe/cv/mission information...I have never used or passed the information on because it is too gamey for my taste...much of this game is like playing battleship with your kids....you have to CHOOSE not to cheat...it is too easy otherwise....
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: FALCONWING on April 14, 2009, 01:52:08 PM
The time I private voxed you was in regards to getting mass chat reported. I discussed this issue with Skuzzy the next day. He reviewed the text and the suspension was lifted.

I don't play this game for you or anyone's approval. Actually, if I piss you off, then mission accomplished. Is it personal? Absolutely not. You are the one, being a Chess Piece Patriot and all, who was left with a sour taste in your mouth. Lighten up a little. I can tell you that most of what I say in game has some sense of humor in it. Most people don't get it.


I hope trafalz reads this and understands why you are not liked or respected....

I will tell you that this a sucky way to go through life....using the anonymity of the internet to be a jerk is very easy...most would find it unsatisfactory and I am too old to tolerate rudeness when i am trying to relax and have fun....
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 14, 2009, 01:56:40 PM

I will tell you that this a sucky way to go through life....using the anonymity of the internet to be a jerk is very easy...most would find it unsatisfactory and I am too old to tolerate rudeness when i am trying to relax and have fun....

While I agree that the use of the internet as an alternative medium through which to realize some sort of 'jerk fantasy' is a total waste of time and is, in many respects, sad, its still not quite as bad as actually being a jerk and using the internet as some sort of venue in which to make an attempt to appear as anything less, through tongue-in-cheek text.

 :salute

(Like that)
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Shuffler on April 14, 2009, 01:57:48 PM
Bishnitrook

Folks never PM me information.... they know I'll alert everyone in the arena that there is someone passing info.  :rofl
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: oTRALFZo on April 14, 2009, 04:30:59 PM
I hope trafalz reads this and understands why you are not liked or respected....I will tell you that this a sucky way to go through life....using the anonymity of the internet to be a jerk is very easy...most would find it unsatisfactory and I am too old to tolerate rudeness when i am trying to relax and have fun....
You cant say that hes not liked or respected. Maybe by you, or a few but you do seem as though you rush to conclusions and tend not to see things objectivley by my oppionion. ( the quick assumption that he had an agenda with that CV besides just playing the game.  The assumption that we were there to "milkrun" our freinds.) The purpose of this thread is not to say "hey switch sides, its the cool thing to do" or that your a dweeb for being loyal to your country. Like Moot pointed out in a seperate thread which is great food for thought:
The tangible effect of anything said on this forum is informative, not authoritative.  There's nothing forcing anyone to do what's written on a virtual forum.  The only way it will happen is if something picked up on the forum leads someone to agree, and there too it's still the reader/player that's making the decision to play one way or another.  [/i]

Were we treated by some in bishland as the redheaded stepchild?..YES, by quite a few ( One in particular was really obnoxious). Do we care? NO. Mission accomplished..we had fun and got to fly with a few old pals. :salute Swampdragons btw..great bunch of guys!! To those few that gave us grief,  I started this thread expressing my views on the subject (that I am totaly intitled to.)If those that read this can sit back and say "maybe its not so bad, it wont kill me to try", then WONDERFUL..small victory for me, but I just made one persons game much better.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Dadsguns on April 14, 2009, 04:32:26 PM
And why not?  Give me one reason that isn't silly as to why anyone should be die hard loyal to a chess piece in Aces High 2.

Here, I'll mock some likely responses:

1) Dont want too.

2) Dont have too.

3) Not even thinking about it.

The list goes on, but I really doubt your going to come up with a good reason why everyone shouldn't try out the other chess pieces from time to time.

Edit.....    :D
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Dadsguns on April 14, 2009, 04:37:51 PM
You cant say that hes not liked or respected.   We can but you said it first.  ;)

Were we treated by some in bishland as the redheaded stepchild?..YES, by quite a few ( One in particular was really obnoxious). Do we care? NO.    Then why the rant?  Are you on a swith country revival? 
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: oTRALFZo on April 14, 2009, 04:45:25 PM
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Must I draw pictures or can we do things the easy way and read the last post?


Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: SkyRock on April 14, 2009, 04:53:37 PM
chess is a good game.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: F111 on April 14, 2009, 06:16:56 PM
For one I don't change sides.  Do not care if others do but see no reason why I should change sides.  You have 200 to socialize no need to go rook or bishop.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: SkyRock on April 14, 2009, 06:26:32 PM
For one I don't change sides.   no need to.
except for the other 666 people that you haven't fought with.....great fun .....OVER THERE :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Banshee7 on April 14, 2009, 07:00:56 PM
Look at bomber score!  :P

SHUT UP YOU GUYSSSSS!!!
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: E25280 on April 14, 2009, 07:41:41 PM
chess is a good game.
You know -- you can actually get two queens if you play your pawnage correctly.   :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: bongaroo on April 14, 2009, 08:57:14 PM
Edit.....    :D

So you admit you have no argument?  :P
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Oldman731 on April 14, 2009, 09:17:13 PM
For one I don't change sides. 

Why not?

- oldman
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: xbrit on April 14, 2009, 11:17:40 PM
For one I don't change sides.  Do not care if others do but see no reason why I should change sides.  You have 200 to socialize no need to go rook or bishop.
If you did maybe I would know who you are ?
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Steve on April 14, 2009, 11:39:53 PM
You know -- you can actually get two queens if you play your pawnage correctly.   :aok

You could get 9 queens, actually.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: SkyRock on April 15, 2009, 07:49:23 AM
You know -- you can actually get two queens if you play your pawnage correctly.   :aok
really?   I did not know that!










 :noid







 :D
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: kvuo75 on April 15, 2009, 08:47:14 AM
I see no reason to switch sides in latewar .. knits are already vastly outnumbered (and usually being tagteamed) more often than not so why make it worse :)

Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: usvi on April 15, 2009, 09:02:05 AM
I see no reason to switch sides in latewar .. knits are already vastly outnumbered (and usually being tagteamed) more often than not so why make it worse :)


I guess some feel the need to be on the "winning" side,look at Italy in WWII.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: WMLute on April 15, 2009, 09:20:24 AM
I guess some feel the need to be on the "winning" side,look at Italy in WWII.

bear in mind kvuo is a Knit........
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 15, 2009, 10:07:18 AM
I see no reason to switch sides in latewar .. knits are already vastly outnumbered (and usually being tagteamed) more often than not so why make it worse :)

I see no reason to switch sides in latewar .. rooks are already vastly outnumbered (and usually being tagteamed) more often than not so why make it worse :)

I see no reason to switch sides in latewar .. bish are already vastly outnumbered (and usually being tagteamed) more often than not so why make it worse :)

Just for perspective.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: usvi on April 15, 2009, 10:07:32 AM
bear in mind kvuo is a Knit........
Definitely not directed towards him,as a nit he is no danger of ever "winning".  :cry
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Lusche on April 15, 2009, 10:08:16 AM
There is nothing wrong about switching sides.

And there is nothing wrong with not switching sides.
Staying loyal to your team for years in days of hording as well as in days of being whacked like a mole is totally legitimate. It's nit a bad thing. And most players that do it this way are nothing but good people.

But you can notice that most of that totally delusional crap is spewed by players being proud of never switching sides.
Taking the game too seriously in a bizarre manner, dividing AH in "them" vs "us", claiming "They always Ho/Lancstuka/Spy/Horde", while being totally blind to similar behaviour by their own team. Complaining about "ENY is unfair to us only", accusing HT of being biased against Knights/Rooks/Bish. Taking Tank Town bases only "because they did it first!". Assuring each other permanently how honourable the own team (minus the dumb furballers, of course) and how detestable the two others are, that "never fight each other".

In some way it's just like in the real world... and it's sad thing in both ones.

Again: Most "loyal" players aren't that way, just enjoying the game and their comrades. But we all know plenty players that crossed the line and mutated into that kind of cartoon-nation chauvinists.

My proposal to every player: Do a virtual vacation once in a while. Do a trip "over there". Only a few days per year. Yes, you can stay totally loyal while doing so - you are not forced to fight against your "true" country (though you might learn a lot that way...). It really helps to put a many things in AH into perspective.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Shuffler on April 15, 2009, 10:09:58 AM
Just for perspective.

 :rofl Was thinking the same thing. I fly on all sides and hear the same things from each side.  :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 15, 2009, 12:11:05 PM
I fly on all sides...  :aok

I know.   :noid

PS:  Thanks for the location of the mishuun last night. 
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: LLogann on April 15, 2009, 01:15:59 PM
I personally don't know of the instance(s) you speak of.... 

But perhaps being treated like a redheaded stepchild is more similar to TwentyFo's treating of Bish while you were the enemy, then you would care to admit.

Were we treated by some in bishland as the redheaded stepchild?..YES, by quite a few ( One in particular was really obnoxious).

BTW... TwentyFo got on my nerves a few times... However, I actually agree with his tactic, and knew what he was doing.  So it didn't bother me too much.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Shuffler on April 15, 2009, 01:18:53 PM
I know.   :noid

PS:  Thanks for the location of the mishuun last night. 

 :rofl


Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 15, 2009, 02:01:15 PM
I personally don't know of the instance(s) you speak of.... 

But perhaps being treated like a redheaded stepchild is more similar to TwentyFo's treating of Bish while you were the enemy, then you would care to admit.

BTW... TwentyFo got on my nerves a few times... However, I actually agree with his tactic, and knew what he was doing.  So it didn't bother me too much.

I can see you get it llogan. Both you and gravy see the humor in how I interact with others on AH. Flaconwing sits too high on his horse, I have no hope for him. Although, I'll give him credit for admitting his love for Adam Lambert last night. I suspect he was drunk.

Drunk Falcnwing pwns Sober Falcnwing
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Steve on April 15, 2009, 02:07:07 PM
I can see you get it llogan. Both you and gravy see the humor in how I interact with others on AH.

You take joy in pissing off others. There's no humor in that. Pissing someone off ruins their game enjoyment.  There's no humor in that.

There is humor in how you fly though. I've watched you repeatedly avoid fighting planes in the air so you could vulch.... it was so weak that it was funny.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: kvuo75 on April 15, 2009, 02:48:43 PM
:rofl Was thinking the same thing. I fly on all sides and hear the same things from each side.  :aok

I really don't see it in LWB.. knights are chronically under-represented..

we see this more often..this is from last month.


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Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 15, 2009, 02:57:24 PM
You take joy in pissing off others. There's no humor in that. Pissing someone off ruins their game enjoyment.  There's no humor in that.

There is humor in how you fly though. I've watched you repeatedly avoid fighting planes in the air so you could vulch.... it was so weak that it was funny.

I'm glad you enjoyed watching it...Cause I enjoyed doing it. There's a certain character of person that my humor offends. They are usually the ones that take this game way too seriously. I could care less if I offend that type of person. They deserve to be offended.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: caldera on April 15, 2009, 03:10:17 PM
I'm glad you enjoyed watching it...Cause I enjoyed doing it. There's a certain character of person that my humor offends. They are usually the ones that take this game way too seriously. I could care less if I offend that type of person. They deserve to be offended.

I'm sure your parents are proud of how you turned out.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 15, 2009, 03:18:34 PM
I really don't see it in LWB.. knights are chronically under-represented..

we see this more often..this is from last month.

Ill concede that nits are usually underrepresented, currently (which is why AoM has been fairly consistently flying nits) but all countries go through their ebbs and flows.

Several months ago, the Rooks went through a spout of GROSS underrepresentation.

When I first started playing AH, the Bish were outnumbered for months at a time.

It comes and goes like everything else in life.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: LLogann on April 15, 2009, 04:00:45 PM
Ah but if that ruining of game enjoyment causes the person to log... Then yes, that stinks.  But in general I would think that doesn't happen often and it at least causes the person to not be able to stick the way they would normally....... THAT accomplishes something against your enemy... That cannot be looked at wholly as a bad strategy.  I'm as guilty of doing it as TwentyFo is.  But it's almost as if it's educational... The H5117's / SHawk's / Bruv's of the world never let words on 200 bother them.  The rest of you should take a lesson in that. 

You take joy in pissing off others. There's no humor in that. Pissing someone off ruins their game enjoyment.  There's no humor in that.

And LynchMob... You gentlemen need to take the good with the bad.  I do not speak for anyone but myself, but... If you guys dished a little out, you should be able to be the readhead for a little while.  It's only fair.  Take it with a smile, be the bigger person!  <S>
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: oTRALFZo on April 15, 2009, 04:02:53 PM
There is nothing wrong about switching sides.

And there is nothing wrong with not switching sides.
Staying loyal to your team for years in days of hording as well as in days of being whacked like a mole is totally legitimate. It's nit a bad thing. And most players that do it this way are nothing but good people.

But you can notice that most of that totally delusional crap is spewed by players being proud of never switching sides.
Taking the game too seriously in a bizarre manner, dividing AH in "them" vs "us", claiming "They always Ho/Lancstuka/Spy/Horde", while being totally blind to similar behaviour by their own team. Complaining about "ENY is unfair to us only", accusing HT of being biased against Knights/Rooks/Bish. Taking Tank Town bases only "because they did it first!". Assuring each other permanently how honourable the own team (minus the dumb furballers, of course) and how detestable the two others are, that "never fight each other".

In some way it's just like in the real world... and it's sad thing in both ones.

Again: Most "loyal" players aren't that way, just enjoying the game and their comrades. But we all know plenty players that crossed the line and mutated into that kind of cartoon-nation chauvinists.

My proposal to every player: Do a virtual vacation once in a while. Do a trip "over there". Only a few days per year. Yes, you can stay totally loyal while doing so - you are not forced to fight against your "true" country (though you might learn a lot that way...). It really helps to put a many things in AH into perspective.
Thank you sir.  :aok
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Steve on April 15, 2009, 04:07:34 PM
They deserve to be offended.


And this is what makes your reputation as a jerk well deserved. You must be so proud.


Quote
I'm glad you enjoyed watching it...Cause I enjoyed doing it.

I shot you down, it was quite satisfying.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 15, 2009, 04:20:04 PM

And this is what makes your reputation as a jerk well deserved. You must be so proud.


I shot you down, it was quite satisfying.

I may be viewed by some as a jerk, and that is totally fine with me. I have no problem with it. I'm not proud of it, but hey that's life. I'm not the type of person that strives to be loved by everyone. That is just not reality. Everyone is different.

And I could care less if you shot me down when I was vulching. I tend to do the bypass everyone and vulch because I'm too lazy to climb for altitude. Often times, I'm preoccupied with something else and I just up an LA7 put it on autopilot, come back, and I'm at the field. That's the way I chose to play the game at that particular time.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Steve on April 15, 2009, 04:23:33 PM
. I tend to do the bypass everyone and vulch because I'm too lazy to climb for altitude.

Heheh well you weren't particularly high but you literally avoided lower cons to vulch in the ack. Cheesey gameplay. I don't care if you want to be a jerk and a poor player, more easy kills for me.
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 15, 2009, 04:29:31 PM
Heheh well you weren't particularly high but you literally avoided lower cons to vulch in the ack. Cheesey gameplay. I don't care if you want to be a jerk and a poor player, more easy kills for me.

Sweet, so we are best friends now....right?  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Steve on April 15, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
Sweet, so we are best friends now....right?  :rofl :rofl

On a personal level I have no problem with you. I think you say foolish things on the other board but I don't really care.. I think you make poor choices on your behavior in the MA but so do I sometimes.  *shrug*
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: betty on April 15, 2009, 04:47:57 PM
omg! do you guys realize yall are MEN! men are NOT supposed to whine about stuff like females do. i am female and i dont cry about a quarter of things that yall do. yall are grown men. its a game! spies, hordes..blah blah blah..come on  get real! if others have NOTHING better to do with their time than to make another account *btw im sure HTC doesn't mind the extra 15.00 per month* then let them. all you can do is just feel sorry for them that their lives are that pathetic that they have to stoop to such levels.

as far as switching goes. there are great people on every side. and yes, if you dont switch there is a slim chance that you will ever be able to interact with EVERYONE that plays the game because there is not a big chance you'll ever run into everyone that plays while in game. there are MANY that dont tune to 200. i switch when ever i feel like it. my squad belongs to no side, we fly bish more because of TSM guys that we luv to fly with.  i think some of yall take this GAME way tooooooooooo serious! grow up and act ur age!
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Lusche on April 15, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
omg! do you guys realize yall are MEN!

Whenever I shout "I'm a MAN!" my wife just laughs...  :(
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: TwentyFo on April 15, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
Whenever I shout "I'm a MAN!" my wife just laughs...  :(

Do you yell it like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoMmbUmKN0E

2:25 mark
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: Becinhu on April 15, 2009, 07:52:01 PM
Whenever I shout "I'm a MAN!" my wife just laughs...  :(

My wife says "Thanks for sharing now clean up the kitchen"
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: PFactorDave on April 15, 2009, 09:25:46 PM
My wife says "Thanks for sharing now clean up the kitchen"

LoL!  Man have I been there!  So much so that if I know that I want to spend a few hours on AH2 on a Saturday, I start by doing every chore (honey do) that I can think of so I can say "Already did it" to everything she throws at me.   :D
Title: Re: chess piece "patriots"
Post by: phatzo on April 16, 2009, 12:28:07 AM
My wife says "Thanks for sharing now clean up the kitchen"
+1