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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Larry on May 05, 2009, 02:21:12 AM
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i tink it wood b kool 2 hav cuz id lokes so perdy and loke da germens used it n ww2!!! :rock :rock :rock :rock
(http://www.military.cz/usa/air/post_war/f86/f86richthoven.jpg)
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! thats from the 50s dude when the luftwaffa were allowed to fly again lol.
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! thats from the 50s dude when the luftwaffa were allowed to fly again lol.
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5403/hooked.jpg)
Throw him back.
wrongway
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i tink it wood b kool 2 hav cuz id lokes so perdy and loke da germens used it n ww2!!! :rock :rock :rock :rock
your joking, right? :O
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your joking, right? :O
Nibbled, got away.
wrongway
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Wow, I am amazed how some can catch fish so easily using such simple bait.
ack-ack
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can i get an A-10 "thunderbolt II" cuz it was the 2nd coming of the P-47 "thunderbolt"? :angel:
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Wow, I am amazed how some can catch fish so easily using such simple bait.
ack-ack
see you can catch fish on corn and or hot dogs lol
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(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5403/hooked.jpg)
Throw him back.
wrongway
the north american F-86 saber the mustange of jet fighters literaly the F-86 comes for the P-51 cuz all it is, is a P-51 modified and the early test models of the F-86 had strait wings the same as on the P-51, plus if you get the
F-86 then i get the Mig-15
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the north american F-86 saber the mustange of jet fighters literaly the F-86 comes for the P-51 cuz all it is, is a P-51 modified and the early test models of the F-86 had strait wings the same as on the P-51, plus if you get the
F-86 then i get the Mig-15
You should stop as you do nothing but make yourself look the fool. P-51 and F-86 are 100% unrelated.
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the north american F-86 saber the mustange of jet fighters literaly the F-86 comes for the P-51 cuz all it is, is a P-51 modified and the early test models of the F-86 had strait wings the same as on the P-51, plus if you get the
F-86 then i get the Mig-15
Little kid, you have no idea what you are talking about. Your just making yourself look like an idiot.
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i know what im talking about you diddlying retards. im tired of this roadkill, you are diddlying wrong the F-86 comes from a redesigned P-51.
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I don't even understand how you came to that conclusion. They look nothing alike.
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i know what im talking about you twittleing retards. im tired of this bullnoodles, you are twittleing wrong the F-86 comes from a redesigned P-51.
Why don't you put us all in our place and post your sources and while you're at it, post the source that said the Ho 229 saw combat action. If you can show proof (with verifiable sources to back it up) that the F-86 is an evolution of the P-51 and the Ho 229 saw combat action (and armed with 30mm cannons) then I will pay for a month of your AH subscription.
Deal or no deal?
ack-ack
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Why don't you put us all in our place and post your sources and while you're at it, post the source that said the Ho 229 saw combat action. If you can show proof (with verifiable sources to back it up) that the F-86 is an evolution of the P-51 and the Ho 229 saw combat action (and armed with 30mm cannons) then I will pay for a month of your AH subscription.
Deal or no deal?
ack-ack
its called the internet handsomehunk, LOOK IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!
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its called the internet handsomehunk, LOOK IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!
You can only find stuff on the internet (from decent sources) if it exists. You won't find anything saying that the Ho 229 saw combat or that the P51 was developed into the F86 because both statements are untrue.
The burden of proof is on you, as you're the one who's making the statement which goes against general knowledge.
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Told you to throw him back. :rofl
I (http://media.bigoo.ws/content/smile/love/love_33.gif) the profanity filter.
Avacado
wrongway
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Man you hooked this one big time Larry.
(http://www.weirdspot.com/images/uploads/fishhook.jpg)
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its called the internet handsomehunk, LOOK IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!
Handsomehunks PWN Amazin Hunks? Hhhmmmm..... :lol
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i know what im talking about you twittleing retards. im tired of this bullnoodles, you are twittleing wrong the F-86 comes from a redesigned P-51.
...LOL.
P51 Profile:
(http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2006/07/images/profile_p51d_june_nite.jpg)
F86 Profile:
(http://www.hawkone.ca/blogimages/history/hawkone_profile_small.jpg)
P51 Top Profile:
(http://www.vqwarbirds.com/images/aircraft/p51d/P-51-top-view.jpg)
F86 Top Profile:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/F-86F_Sabre_afg-041110-019.jpg/300px-F-86F_Sabre_afg-041110-019.jpg)
Yeah...can't you guys see the resemblance?
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Wow 2 fisherman in one thread...cool! One of ya need a new fishing hole. :confused: :D
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its called the internet handsomehunk, LOOK IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!
I would suggest you follow your own advice and look it up. If you have difficulty reading, I'm sure you can ask one of your parents to read it for you and explain it to you slowly in the hopes it will sink in.
In any event, you failed to show any proof whatsoever of the F-86 being an evolution of the P-51 and you also failed at showing any proof of the things you claimed about the Ho 229. I'm starting to see a pattern here...you utterly fail at probably everything you do. How very sad.
ack-ack
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i tink it wood b kool 2 hav cuz id lokes so perdy and loke da germens used it n ww2!!! :rock :rock :rock :rock
(http://www.military.cz/usa/air/post_war/f86/f86richthoven.jpg)
Yeah! Erich Hartmann flew those planes. It has to have been from WW2. Nice find Larry!
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How about a Korea era arena?
Most of the late war WW-ll stuff still flew in Korea and we could fly the ultimate prop jobs as well as the new Jets.
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He's actually kind of right.
http://www.wingweb.co.uk/aircraft/F-86_Sabre_Part1.html (http://www.wingweb.co.uk/aircraft/F-86_Sabre_Part1.html)
This is from a quick google search... I'm sure more evidence could be dug up if you invested the time.
Although the FJ-1's appearance didn't suggest it, the fighter leveraged heavily off P-51 technology, particularly in the design of its wing.
The original NA-140 / XP-86 design strongly resembled the NA-134 / XFJ-1. It had straight wings, the same J35 engine, and the same fit of six Browning machine guns.
The XP-86's relationship to the FJ-1 Fury was still apparent. The new aircraft had an air intake in the nose, straddled by three 12.7 millimeter Browning guns on each side, with a high-sitting plexiglas bubble canopy that slid backwards to open.
Both the Sabre and the Mustang were designed by North American. It would make sense for them to implement the successful design features of the Mustang into later aircraft.
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Just think about it, how can a piston and a jet engine fighter be alike?
The only thing that looks the same is the canopy.
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I've fooled with the F-86 a little in another sim...if it was accurately modeled, that airplane is SWEET to fly. Think the kind of handling our P-51D has without torque and a faster roll rate.
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I recently read this book, Sabres over MiG Alley: The F-86 and the Battle for Air Superiority in Korea
by Kenneth P. Werrell, and in the development section of the F-86, they talk about how the P-51 and F-86 were similar...though I cannot remember for the life of me what was talked about, other than the bubble canopy and the laminar-flow wings.
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:rofl
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i know what im talking about you twittleing retards. im tired of this bullnoodles, you are twittleing wrong the F-86 comes from a redesigned P-51.
Yeah your absolutely right, F-86 did come from P-51, it came a long way from p-51.
Also did you know that F-22 came from the wright flyer, they look so much alike :O, they both have wings!!!
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Yeah your absolutely right, F-86 did come from P-51, it came a long way from p-51.
Also did you know that F-22 came from the wright flyer, they look so much alike :O, they both have wings!!!
Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
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twittering bullnoodles avocado potato
there is a grain of truth :rofl
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
To say it was an evolution of the P-51 is still incorrect. The F-86 owes just as much to the ME 262 as it does to the P-51. If it wasn't for the ME 262, the Sabre would never have been the plane that it was.
ack-ack
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What I really want to know is what 'bad word' does "handsomehunk" cover up, or does he really think AKAK is a handsome hunk?
Oh I found it. :D
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To say it was an evolution of the P-51 is still incorrect. The F-86 owes just as much to the ME 262 as it does to the P-51. If it wasn't for the ME 262, the Sabre would never have been the plane that it was.
Evidence has been posted supporting the idea that the F86 was influenced in its design by the P51. If it wasn't for the P51, the Sabre would never have been the plane that it was.
The Mustang is a great high-speed aircraft, the Me262 isn't. It's silly to think that North American wouldn't apply any lessons they learned with the P51 to their development of the Sabre.
With that being said, I could be completely wrong. Unless someone can prove it, though...
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i see fishing season has started and its bringing in record numbers. you dudes are nuts :rofl
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i see fishing season has started and its bringing in record numbers. you dudes are nuts :rofl
No one's being trolled, at least not anymore. This has turned from a thread about adding the F86 to AH (which was a troll), into a discussion about how much the F86 was influenced by the P51.
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No one's being trolled, at least not anymore. This has turned from a thread about adding the F86 to AH (which was a troll), into a discussion about how much the F86 was influenced by the P51.
no it hasnt.... some people just havent gotten that message to there noggen yet :uhoh
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no it hasnt.... some people just havent gotten that message to there noggen yet :uhoh
60% (this is a conservative estimate) of the posts in this thread are about whether or not the Sabre was descended from the P51.
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yes but IMO only one guy in that argument really thinks the others are serious.
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Evidence has been posted supporting the idea that the F86 was influenced in its design by the P51. If it wasn't for the P51, the Sabre would never have been the plane that it was.
The Mustang is a great high-speed aircraft, the Me262 isn't. It's silly to think that North American wouldn't apply any lessons they learned with the P51 to their development of the Sabre.
With that being said, I could be completely wrong. Unless someone can prove it, though...
The Me 262 wasn't a great high speed aircraft? It was revolutionary, its wing design is basically what allowed jets to travel at high speeds and eventually break the sound barrier. The Fury showed that laminar wings for jets was inefficient so North American used captured German technology on swept wings. IIRC, the only thing that the F-86 incorporated in its design that was from the Mustang were the speed breaks on the wings which was the same system used on the A-36 Apache/Invader.
The tail system on the F-86 was, if IIRC, was the same or influenced by the one used on the Fury (which design was influenced on the Mustang) but that was also inefficient and was replaced by "all flying-tail" on the E model which was far more efficient than the original tail designed for the Sabre.
Saying that the Sabre was an evolution of the Mustang would be like saying that the F-14 Tomcat was an evolution of the F-111 because it used an improved swing wing system based on the one used by the Aardvark.
The fact is that the early jets made after WW2 owed their design more to captured German designs and technology than any other factor.
ack-ack
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yes but IMO only one guy in that argument really thinks the others are serious.
That doesn't make sense. It's not possible. There are multiple people on both sides of the debate. 3 or 4 seem to think that there is some evidence that the Sabre was influenced by the Mustang.
3 or 4 other people seem to think we're crazy.
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The Me 262 wasn't a great high speed aircraft? It was revolutionary, its wing design is basically what allowed jets to travel at high speeds and eventually break the sound barrier. The Fury showed that laminar wings for jets was inefficient so North American used captured German technology on swept wings. IIRC, the only thing that the F-86 incorporated in its design that was from the Mustang were the speed breaks on the wings which was the same system used on the A-36 Apache/Invader.
The tail system on the F-86 was, if IIRC, was the same or influenced by the one used on the Fury (which design was influenced on the Mustang) but that was also inefficient and was replaced by "all flying-tail" on the E model which was far more efficient than the original tail designed for the Sabre.
Saying that the Sabre was an evolution of the Mustang would be like saying that the F-14 Tomcat was an evolution of the F-111 because it used an improved swing wing system based on the one used by the Aardvark.
The fact is that the early jets made after WW2 owed their design more to captured German designs and technology than any other factor.
ack-ack
I should've been more clear. The P51 handles great at high speed. The 262 doesn't (at least not as well as the Mustang).
Basically, and correct me if I'm wrong, North American began development of the Sabre by incorporating design features of the Mustang into the Fury (like the laminar flow wing, tail system, etc.). Then, they improved upon that design and added ideas taken from the Germans, which gets us the Sabre.
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The fact is that the early jets made after WW2 owed their design more to captured German designs and technology than any other factor.
ack-ack
Well, that and the fact that we weren't having the noodles bombed out of us 25 hours a day.
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wel we hav duh rv8 i dunt see wy we cnt hav du f86!!1!
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I should've been more clear. The P51 handles great at high speed. The 262 doesn't (at least not as well as the Mustang).
Basically, and correct me if I'm wrong, North American began development of the Sabre by incorporating design features of the Mustang into the Fury (like the laminar flow wing, tail system, etc.). Then, they improved upon that design and added ideas taken from the Germans, which gets us the Sabre.
The problem is the things that made the P-51 operate well at high speeds didn't work on jets, which was shown by the design of the Fury. It was the lessons learned from the Fury that carried over to the Sabre and led to the use of swept wing technology that enabled the Sabre to reach speeds up to 678mph+, something that would not be possible with the laminar wings. In addition, the tail surfaces used in the Fury were also inefficient at high speeds, which led to the desigh of the all-flying tail that was added to the E model of the Sabre.
Evolution of the P-51? No. Evolution of the Fury? One can make that argument since the Sabre was based on the Fury design.
ack-ack
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If the Sabre evolved from the Fury, and the Fury evolved from the Mustang, it's not unrealistic to say that the Sabre evolved from the Mustang.
This seems to be a subjective topic, based on how you define "evolved."
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If the Sabre evolved from the Fury, and the Fury evolved from the Mustang, it's not unrealistic to say that the Sabre evolved from the Mustang.
This seems to be a subjective topic, based on how you define "evolved."
The Fury did not evolve from the P-51. Some design elements from the P-51 were used to design the Fury (tail surfaces, wing and canopy) but that does not mean the Fury was a direct evolution of the Mustang.
I will readily admit that the Mustang did have some influence in the design of the Fury and the lessons learned from those features on the Fury did influence the design of the Sabre but wasn't like how the OP said.
ack-ack
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Yeah your absolutely right, F-86 did come from P-51, it came a long way from p-51.
Also did you know that F-22 came from the wright flyer, they look so much alike :O, they both have wings!!!
Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
You certainly don't understand sarcasm.
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You certainly don't understand sarcasm.
What, exactly, were you being sarcastic about?
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Amazing how negative threads get the most responses :rock
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What, exactly, were you being sarcastic about?
Is it not obvious? F-22 and the Wright Flyer? They're like, so totally close its, like, hard to tell like, how, like, different they are..
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(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4906/ilikewherethisthreadisg.jpg)
Oh, that cloud formation is called "Derechoe"
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Is it not obvious? F-22 and the Wright Flyer? They're like, so totally close its, like, hard to tell like, how, like, different they are..
Then my response stays the same. He has a reading comprehension problem.
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He has a reading comprehension problem.
reading what?
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F86 was from the korean war and it was american the picture you have is a imported one so one word....
FAIL.
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F86 was from the korean war and it was american the picture you have is a imported one so one word....
FAIL.
4 posts, welcome to the forum
oh and BTW, this thread was posted on May 5th ;)
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F86 was from the korean war and it was american the picture you have is a imported one so one word....
FAIL.
This thread was started as a joke to get laughs out of the community, and hook people that weren't smart enough to get the joke.
So two words......
EPIC FAIL!
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This thread was started as a joke to get laughs out of the community, and hook people that weren't smart enough to get the joke.
Did you decide on that after the 1st two pages of posts?
Man you hooked this one big time Larry.
(http://www.weirdspot.com/images/uploads/fishhook.jpg)
:rofl
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The Fury did not evolve from the P-51. Some design elements from the P-51 were used to design the Fury (tail surfaces, wing and canopy) but that does not mean the Fury was a direct evolution of the Mustang.
I will readily admit that the Mustang did have some influence in the design of the Fury and the lessons learned from those features on the Fury did influence the design of the Sabre but wasn't like how the OP said.
ack-ack
Actually, nothing from the P-51 found its way into the XFJ-1. The wing was a different NACA design and much thinner. So thin that it could not be fitted for external stores. The horizontal stabilizers were canted up with a few degrees of dihedral and were aft of the rudder's center chord line.
We could safely say that knowledge gained from the P-51s/P-82 was applied to the Fury.
As to the Me 262; it used a NACA 00011-0.825-35 airfoil (the 00011 indicates a zero camber, symmetrical airfoil of 11% chord to thickness ratio) at the root and the NACA 00009-1.1-40 at the tip. The 18.5 degree sweep was not engineered in to forestall the onset of compression, but to adjust CG. 18.5 degrees adds little to critical Mach (almost 5%). Stall behavior was improved by adding leading edge slats (there was little understanding of span-wise flow at that time).
My regards,
Widewing
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No it was a joke from day one. Take a look at the horrible spelling and multiple 'rock' smileys. Those two things were there to simulate some of the 13-14 year old kids that come here asking for a plane like they are sending a text message to their buddies. The hard part was finding a plane what people could get baited by. I found that picture of the German F86 and posted it in a previous thread. I knew that when that paint scheme and because the plane itself was in the same general time frame of WWII. If I posted a picture of a F4 phantom in German markings I would have gotten far less bites. :aok
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Fish and Game officer here, just stopping by to check Larrys fishing licence.
Just a reminder, theres a limit of 8 keepers for morons, and a limit of 6 for dolts
All clear sir --- procede.
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F86 was from the korean war and it was american the picture you have is a imported one so one word....
FAIL.
Before you start slinging "FAIL", I take it you weren't born when the Federal Republic of Germany was around? That F-86 Sabre in the original post was American, but West Germany (Federal Republic of Germany) was a member of NATO.
EXCELLENT BAIT Larry! :rofl
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<----- Throws his line in next to Larry's
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/F-86F_%28JASDF%29.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Bundeswehrmuseum_Dresden_4.jpg/800px-Bundeswehrmuseum_Dresden_4.jpg)
C! dey r 4 reel! Reel pics! An de Japeneze had em 2!!! Hoo wuda thout?
Disclaimer: No, I am not being serious. These images are real, but are of an F-86 sold to the JASDF and of a Canadian CL13 Canadair Sabre sold to the West German Luftwaffe after the war. Anyone who actually thinks these aircraft were flown by the Germans or the Japanese at any point during WW2 is a complete dipstick and deserves to be reeled in like the carp that they are. Larry, pass me the worms please.
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No it was a joke from day one. Take a look at the horrible spelling and multiple 'rock' smileys. Those two things were there to simulate some of the 13-14 year old kids that come here asking for a plane like they are sending a text message to their buddies. The hard part was finding a plane what people could get baited by. I found that picture of the German F86 and posted it in a previous thread. I knew that when that paint scheme and because the plane itself was in the same general time frame of WWII. If I posted a picture of a F4 phantom in German markings I would have gotten far less bites. :aok
well, I guess now I believe you
(was a bad joke)
would be funnier if you used this:
(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6206/mig29fulcrumbluftwaffe.jpg)
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F86 was from the korean war and it was american the picture you have is a imported one so one word....
FAIL.
Please, I honestly hope you are not serious. /facepalm
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the north american F-86 saber the mustange of jet fighters literaly the F-86 comes for the P-51 cuz all it is, is a P-51 modified and the early test models of the F-86 had strait wings the same as on the P-51, plus if you get the
F-86 then i get the Mig-15
i would like to say one thing
what?
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Ah, the German MiG-29.
Gotta say, props to any NATO country that can actually push Sovie aircraft into regular service. :rock
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the north american F-86 saber the mustange of jet fighters literaly the F-86 comes for the P-51 cuz all it is, is a P-51 modified and the early test models of the F-86 had strait wings the same as on the P-51, plus if you get the
F-86 then i get the Mig-15
You sir, are a fool.
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Before you start slinging "FAIL", I take it you weren't born when the Federal Republic of Germany was around?
Does that mean the Federal Republic of Germany isn't around anymore? :confused:
Last time I checked my country did still exist and is still a NATO member...
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The Me 262 wasn't a great high speed aircraft? It was revolutionary, its wing design is basically what allowed jets to travel at high speeds and eventually break the sound barrier. The Fury showed that laminar wings for jets was inefficient so North American used captured German technology on swept wings. IIRC, the only thing that the F-86 incorporated in its design that was from the Mustang were the speed breaks on the wings which was the same system used on the A-36 Apache/Invader.
The tail system on the F-86 was, if IIRC, was the same or influenced by the one used on the Fury (which design was influenced on the Mustang) but that was also inefficient and was replaced by "all flying-tail" on the E model which was far more efficient than the original tail designed for the Sabre.
Saying that the Sabre was an evolution of the Mustang would be like saying that the F-14 Tomcat was an evolution of the F-111 because it used an improved swing wing system based on the one used by the Aardvark.
The fact is that the early jets made after WW2 owed their design more to captured German designs and technology than any other factor.
ack-ack
Sorry Ack-Ack, but I'm going to have to disagree on a couple points. The real trick to breaking the sound barrier turned out to be the horizontal stabilizers. Without movable horizontal stabilizers, there was no vertical control once you got real close to supersonic speed. When Chuck Yeager got close to supersonic (0.95 mach, or so) in the straight winged X-1, the elevators became useless. Bell had designed an additional control to rotate the entire stabilizer, and that ultimately proved to be what enabled control at supersonic speed. The F86 had a combination moving stabilizer with elevator (sometimes known as a stabilator (spelling?)), so it could dive with control at above the speed of sound. The Russians didn't figure that out for something like 5 years after the F86 came out, as the Mig 17 still had a fixed horizontal stabilizer, and hence no vertical control at over approximately 0.97 mach.
The later model F-84F had swept wings and a full flying stabilizer, and that may be what you were thinking of, as the F86's always had the same style of stabilizers. Here's a picture of the F-86F that's at the US Air Force Museum in Dayton, OH: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/050321-F-1234P-001.jpg Notice the small slots on the fuselage at the leading edge of the stabilizer. That's all the movement the stabilizer had on the F-86, but it was enough at high speeds to pull more G's than you could handle.
Now, the swept wing idea did come from the ME-262, and it did cut down on drag, but the laminar flow wing concept used on the P-51 also cuts down on drag. Modern jet aircraft use both concepts together, though many modern fighter aircraft use a wing more resembling a triangle shape. FWIW, a laminar flow wing is a wing that has it's thickest point halfway between the front (leading edge) and back (trailing edge) of the wing.
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Does that mean the Federal Republic of Germany isn't around anymore? :confused:
Last time I checked my country did still exist and is still a NATO member...
The force is strong with this one. :x
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Why don't you put us all in our place and post your sources and while you're at it, post the source that said the Ho 229 saw combat action. If you can show proof (with verifiable sources to back it up) that the F-86 is an evolution of the P-51 and the Ho 229 saw combat action (and armed with 30mm cannons) then I will pay for a month of your AH subscription.
Deal or no deal?
ack-ack
[Hijack]
But, but, the Ho 229 Flying Wing did see service... See!
S33 d00d, they all li3k, z000m in this picz0r...
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq73/TheKinSlayer_1993/1169278157.jpg)
fr33 m0nth pl3s3 m0m m1gh7 kn0w im st3lin h3r c4rd!!
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But, but, the Ho 229 Flying Wing did see service... See!
S33 d00d, they all li3k, z000m in this picz0r...
fr33 m0nth pl3s3 m0m m1gh7 kn0w im st3lin h3r c4rd!!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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lol. I think you ALL have been hooked by a big troll!
On the other hand I recall how some leather undie wearing types
vehemently claiming that der FW-190 und hence Kurt Tank were
the basis for the F8F.
<snicker>
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I'm going to laugh when you get banned :)
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everyone is just saying NO! GIVE US A REASON WHY NOT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :furious :furious
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F86 was from the korean war and it was american the picture you have is a imported one so one word....
FAIL.
:rofl Nice first post!
Ya soo back on track...ah... German F86 FTW!!
Hooked, Bumped and a "fail" comment.
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Eskimojoe needs a new hobby, and a blow up doll :)
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Eskimojoe needs a new hobby, and a blow up doll :)
Maybe he could borrow yours?
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The real trick to breaking the sound barrier turned out to be the horizontal stabilizers. Without movable horizontal stabilizers, there was no vertical control once you got real close to supersonic speed. When Chuck Yeager got close to supersonic (0.95 mach, or so) in the straight winged X-1, the elevators became useless. Miles had designed an additional control to rotate the entire stabilizer, and that ultimately proved to be what enabled control at supersonic speed.
fixed. stabilators and nose spikes were the key to the X-1s success - both developed during WWII by the Air Ministry. you're welcome :D
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............................. .......really..............re ally?????...wow excellent grammer and spelling for that matter..... :aok