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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Boxman on August 09, 2009, 10:55:47 PM
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Perkies be damned. I just can't keep away from the Spixteen. I just feel like there's nothing it can't do.
Had a really good day today, went from a .53 or so k/d to .71 right now. Two big factors in my improvement....finally getting used to the rudder pedals, and two hours I spent in training arena the other week.
Yes I care about my k/d. Someday soon I will be +. Main problem is when I get frustrated and keep trying to up at a vulched base,
Anyways, I love the Spixteen.
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I'm sorry :salute
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(http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt86/splittiebus66/flamethrower.jpg)
someones gonna need this.....
:rofl
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Well, it's called Late War for a reason.
I have no problem waxing Brewsters and other rides that just can't get'er done.
The Brwesters and what not seemed good at first but now they should stay in MW.
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109K4 > spit16
All I have to say....
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It's one thing to like the Spit16 for its overall easy-mode characteristics. It's quite another to stick with it as your only ride of choice with no desire for challenging yourself in a LESS-than-uber aircraft.
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I prefer the 14 for a perk ride, as it is far more difficult to outrun a 14 than a 16. I mean, the spit 16 tops out at 325 on the deck with WEP, so a hog can easily out run one, even with 1 1/2 wings rather than 2.
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the spit 16 tops out at 325 on the deck with WEP
Try again.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/images/e/e0/Spit16spd.jpg)
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As for liking the XVI, keep at it. Once you improve more you'll probably get bored of it, if not tire of its ugliness. :devil
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Perkies be damned. I just can't keep away from the Spixteen. I just feel like there's nothing it can't do.
Had a really good day today, went from a .53 or so k/d to .71 right now. Two big factors in my improvement....finally getting used to the rudder pedals, and two hours I spent in training arena the other week.
Yes I care about my k/d. Someday soon I will be +. Main problem is when I get frustrated and keep trying to up at a vulched base,
Anyways, I love the Spixteen.
I flew the 16 until I started being able to kd + 2 now I fly the 9 for an easy life and the 14 for the challenge. I also fly the Typhoon and the mossie and have to dogfight in them sometimes so I know how tough it can be in some planes. When you first start out the game is hard enough without worrying about being accued of flying an easy plane. Later on you want to try something else. :aok
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Later on you want to try something else. :aok
109K4 :aok :aok
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Perkies be damned. I just can't keep away from the Spixteen. I just feel like there's nothing it can't do.
Had a really good day today, went from a .53 or so k/d to .71 right now. Two big factors in my improvement....finally getting used to the rudder pedals, and two hours I spent in training arena the other week.
Yes I care about my k/d. Someday soon I will be +. Main problem is when I get frustrated and keep trying to up at a vulched base,
Anyways, I love the Spixteen.
I checked your score... your Fun Factor was at +5.0 :aok
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Loving the spitxteen is like falling in love with a highly skilled slut. Sure, she satisfies your short term urges instantly, but shes just too easy to get into bed and the novelty should wear off after one night.
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Perkies be damned. I just can't keep away from the Spixteen. I just feel like there's nothing it can't do.
Had a really good day today, went from a .53 or so k/d to .71 right now. Two big factors in my improvement....finally getting used to the rudder pedals, and two hours I spent in training arena the other week.
Yes I care about my k/d. Someday soon I will be +. Main problem is when I get frustrated and keep trying to up at a vulched base,
Anyways, I love the Spixteen.
Are you having fun without griefing other players? Sounds like you are. What anyone says matters little
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Loving the spitxteen is like falling in love with a highly skilled slut. Sure, she satisfies your short term urges instantly, but shes just too easy to get into bed and the novelty should wear off after one night.
Yeah plus everyone takes a ride in her every now and then. :D
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:lol
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Loving the spitxteen is like falling in love with a highly skilled slut. Sure, she satisfies your short term urges instantly, but shes just too easy to get into bed and the novelty should wear off after one night.
Upping one offline!!!!! See ya'll in a year!!! :x :x :x
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The Spitfire is a bird in the air. Not a machine in the air. There is a difference between the two. The Spitfire is a "free bird". Besides all of that, I just checked and 16 has no cost value. Besides all of that, all these airplanes are engineered into a matter of digital information that this man, "hi-tech", has made from the passion of his heart and love for these old WWII aircraft's. They all are "unique", and they all are beautiful in their own way. Know your aircraft, and know the aircraft you are fighting. Its as simple as that. Sheesh.
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take a number and get in the line, assi
:noid
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Jump in a Mossy, my new favorite ride, having fun like I did back when i was new. keep having fun with the game and pay attention to not ruin others fun while doing it :salute
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(http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/186/c/2/Tard_in_a_plane_by_fantabulocity.png) :x
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Get out there and improve yourself son!!!
I'll freely admit, I'll up a 16... early tour, over caps or if needed. But that ride won't get you far in developing to a higher level.
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Boxman,
The XVI is a great plane to furball in, but if you want to improve your K/D ratio then you should get in something faster.
P.S: I do like my "highly skilled sluts".
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I love my Spit XVI :)
:salute Boxman
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Fly what you like, and just have fun! :aok
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"Sure, she satisfies your short term urges instantly"
...im sure there is supposed to be some kind of down side, or something. :lol
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"Sure, she satisfies your short term urges instantly"
...im sure there is supposed to be some kind of down side, or something. :lol
Downside is in your haste for instant gratification you forgot a spare raincoat and you get whatever the the last guy had and passed on...those shots ain't fun.
I wouldn't call any allied or meatball ride "a challenge" in the LW arenas except for the P-40 and the Brewski.
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Loving the spitxteen is like falling in love with a highly skilled slut. Sure, she satisfies your short term urges instantly, but shes just too easy to get into bed and the novelty should wear off after one night.
"the novelty should wear off after one night." If the preceding happens..your Libido needs serious attention. :P
There are 2 types of players in this GAME ,those that like the "Spits" and those that secretly admire them but are afraid of the "ribbing" they'll get from their peers if they admit it :D
I prefer the spit V, and/or the IX. :cool:
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XVI for outnumbered situations, IX for everything else. :aok
PS: The spit XVI is absolutely gorgeous with the clipped wings anyway. :O
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:rofl
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Try flying the P38 if you really want a challenge! Ive shot down my fair share of Spixteens the past couple of tours. Once you figure out the P38, you wont wanna go back! Hehehe.
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I've always been a Spit afficianado and the IX and the XVI have always gotten the most use of any other planes by me.
Last camp I flew the XVI almost exclusively. This camp I'm running through the plane-set trying for at least a couple of kills in every fighter and attack aircraft. I'm finding that after only a month of flying the XVI regularily I've become ham fisted. Not a good thing but I'll get it worked out.
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109K4 > spit16
All I have to say....
Change that:
109G14>spit16
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Stop ragging on him. He is still learning and the Spit XVI is good for that.
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Spitfire XVI > K4 and G14.
Funny Luftweenies!
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I up a P-47 d-11 or a Corsair now and again.
I just feel the Spixteen ist Uber Alles.
Can't really see any plane as better though, except for hauling bombs.
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Try flying the P38 if you really want a challenge! Ive shot down my fair share of Spixteens the past couple of tours. Once you figure out the P38, you wont wanna go back! Hehehe.
His challenge is trying to get a K/D ratio over 1.0 at the moment.
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Fly against m00t in his 190.....Dare I say A8 even and see what you think of the spit.......... :lol
It really comes down to the stick you face, not the ride. You... Will improve faster in something you have to think about then simply "merge, turn, kill"
I up a P-47 d-11 or a Corsair now and again.
I just feel the Spixteen ist Uber Alles.
Can't really see any plane as better though, except for hauling bombs.
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Fly against m00t in his 190.....Dare I say A8 even and see what you think of the spit.......... :lol
It really comes down to the stick you face, not the ride. You... Will improve faster in something you have to think about then simply "merge, turn, kill"
You fail and put m00t deep in a hole with that comment! :rofl :rofl :rofl
m00t would get his 190A8 pwnt by a half competent player in an XVI.
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My favorite thing about the Mossie is doing doughnuts with it on the runway :aok
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Spitfire XVI > K4 and G14.
Funny Luftweenies!
luftweenies > spitweenies :rofl :rofl :aok
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109K4 > spit16
All I have to say....
Can I get an Amen
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the 16 is great for fighting the hourde, but like others have said it is a very easy plane to fly in the right hands its almost untouchable, same as LA-7.(which I love)
Spit-16 should be able to destroy the 109-k4 or g-14 easily, again it does depend on who is in each plane, A noob in a 16 should loose to a vet in 109.
keep at it and have fun that is what matters.
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Change that:
109G14>spit16
Ill take it a step further:
109F-4 > Spit16.
Well... at least when the Spit driver thinks that ACM = roll 90 degrees + yank. Thankfully, that seems to be the extent of the knowledge demonstrated by 16 drivers.
The exception... and this is a great move... is the "merge-with-less-E-and-pull-a-180-degree-turn-and-follow-a-109K4-straight-up-without-any-perceivable-loss-in-E" maneuver. I believe its called the "Anti-Gravity Drive Engage" maneuver, for short.
Love that one.
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Spit 16? Why? Do you open your letters with a wimpy pen knife? Do you wear flip-flops to the shower stalls while camping? Do you turn traction control on when it drizzles?
Do you want to fly a plane that'll give you a full chest of hair after one flight? Howabout speeds that not only leave the Spits in the dust, but makes their eyes crosses with inverted-gull wings. Who needs cannon when you got 6 machine guns that chop up planes like buzzsaws? Howabout something that'll make you drink Jack Daniels straight and complain that the bottle wasn't big enough?
Thats right, I'm talking about the Corsair. You're not FLYING the Corsair, you're asking, nay, pleading it to fly with you. The Corsair doesn't give two rat butts about what you're doing. Its going to fly, roll, shoot down and zoom and boom on its own. The pilot is only needed because the Corsair can't raise or lower its gear by itself...YET.
Not being nice enough to the plane? It'll kill you. It will straight up say "How DARE you." and plunge right into the ground. It is like this from sunup to sundown. Forget its birthday? You're dead. Accidentally kick it? You're dead.
Other planes straight up try to fight you because its a Corsair. Why? Because its a challenge to shoot down. It looks so damn mean and unconventional that pilots will risk being a conductor to 59 LA-7's to try and shoot down a Corsair. The Corsair doesn't care, it puts on its bulletproof vest every morning.
Ever got on a plane's six in a Corsair? Thats not fuel leaking out of the enemy plane, thats plane urine. You don't have to shoot for that to happen. The Corsair is loud and in your face. The Corsair is that loud frat boy that lifts 500 lbs everyday and slaps the sorority girl on the bellybutton each time he walks past her. Carriers in the Pacific BANNED them because the other planes couldn't sleep because the Corsair constantly DRANK and PARTIED.
The Spit 16. Hmph. The Corsair would see it in the hallway and shove it into the locker. Where the Spit16 may have a sharp knife to kill you with a few jabs, the Corsair carries a CHAINSAW. And its on, ALL THE TIME.
So when you're picking a plane, scroll up. All the Corsairs are good. They're a group of brothers that know their specialty and brag about it CONSTANTLY. You got the 1A which loves to just straight up FIGHT. The 1D which loves to blow stuff up. The 1C spent the summer overseas and brought back some toys to shoot some planes down quicker. The -4 is the kid brother that wants to succeed and the -1 is the one that marries the nice girl next door and turns her into the hottest skank in the town.
So what is it going to be? The Pointdexter or the Whiskey-chugging maniac with a chainsaw?
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<Snip>
WINNAH!
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Lots of stuff
I dunno, I rather think of the F4U as the wussy, preening American ride actually. You more described the P-47.
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I have no problem waxing Brewsters and other rides that just can't get'er done.
In late war tour 114 Boxman has killed 3 Brewsters and has been killed 14 times by them.
In late war tour 115 Boxman has killed 3 Brewsters and has been killed 7 times by them.
Well, to me it looks like you've had your share of problems waxing Brewsters. :) But yes, obviously you've obviously had less trouble with them at tour 115 than at tour 114.
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I dunno, I rather think of the F4U as the wussy, preening American ride actually. You more described the P-47.
Nah, he was describing the F4U. Besides, the P-47 has its own urine tube. Hogs and Hog pilots don't need 'em.
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It's one thing to like the Spit16 for its overall easy-mode characteristics. It's quite another to stick with it as your only ride of choice with no desire for challenging yourself in a LESS-than-uber aircraft.
Well what if he does decide to challenge himself to become really good in a Spit 16, like others are good in a 109K-4? Does that 'redeem' him, or is he still 'bad' for not picking a worse plane?
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"the novelty should wear off after one night." If the preceding happens..your Libido needs serious attention. :P
There are 2 types of players in this GAME ,those that like the "Spits" and those that secretly admire them but are afraid of the "ribbing" they'll get from their peers if they admit it :D
I prefer the spit V, and/or the IX. :cool:
Oh Den i love spitfires! I just dont like the spit 16 :)
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Well what if he does decide to challenge himself to become really good in a Spit 16, like others are good in a 109K-4?
Uhh the k4 is uber.
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Do you want to fly a plane that'll give you a full chest of hair after one flight?
I don't need a plane to enhance or affirm my manhood. I do, however, require a pretty one to make up for my ugly mug, and the Spit is just the ticket.
I do love the hogs, but damn, if there's a fighter in which it's easier to kill yourself than any of the F4U-1 series, I haven't found it. She flies like a dream but will not tolerate the slightest transgression, at least down low. I've gotten better at not committing those transgressions but I still have no clue how to survive one.
(Not to mention, if HTC hadn't made taxiing unrealistically easy - not that I'm complaining - our hogs would have similar stats to the war: more planes lost in noncombat accidents than to any form of enemy action.
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Uhh the k4 is uber.
:aok YUP, it damn sure is!
So are 38s and the hogs!! <--- just plain UBER!
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Well, it's called Late War for a reason.
I have no problem waxing Brewsters and other rides that just can't get'er done.
The Brwesters and what not seemed good at first but now they should stay in MW.
Hmmm....
A well flown Brewster is a awesome thing to behold. Co-E, Co-Alt, the Spit 16 needs to extend... A long way.
My regards,
Widewing
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Oh Den i love spitfires! I just dont like the spit 16 :)
NM..I got lost in thought..(unfamiliar territory) . ;)
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Hmmm....
A well flown Brewster is a awesome thing to behold. Co-E, Co-Alt, the Spit 16 needs to extend... A long way.
I'm not that familiar with the Brewster, I've flown it twice and seen less than a dozen, but wouldn't the XVI pull away very quickly in a climb?
I really don't understand how the Finns did so well with the Brewster, unless it was purely a matter of enormous disparity in pilot skill. Sure, it's maneuvarable, but so is a Fokker D. 7 and I wouldn't take that up against a Spit either!
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I'm not that familiar with the Brewster, I've flown it twice and seen less than a dozen, but wouldn't the XVI pull away very quickly in a climb?
I really don't understand how the Finns did so well with the Brewster, unless it was purely a matter of enormous disparity in pilot skill. Sure, it's maneuvarable, but so is a Fokker D. 7 and I wouldn't take that up against a Spit either!
Yes, well the Finns never fought the British :)
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Yes, well the Finns never fought the British :)
Luckily, even though the UK declared war on Finland at the end of 1941.
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but wouldn't the XVI pull away very quickly in a climb?
And then what?You fail and put m00t deep in a hole with that comment! :rofl :rofl :rofl
m00t would get his 190A8 pwnt by a half competent player in an XVI.
Could be worse. He could've put me in a Typhoon. Seriously - I never fly the A8. It's a brick and I personally don't like its flight envelope. It must've been a great ride in WWII, but in AH's MA it's a fish out of water. All the Fw190 really needs is a single 108 or 103 in the nose with ~80-100 rounds, and non-split flaps that deploy over 200mph. Imagine that. Slotted or fowler flaps on a 190A5, D9, or 152. 15 years from now I'll grab some off the shelf open source flight sim and make that plane and fly it against the rest of the historical 44-45 WWII plane set. It's gonna be fun.
To answer the question though. I'd rather "die" to a challenge like 1xA8 vs 3xXVI than lame my way to such a "win" in a XVI.
No victory without peril.
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I'm not that familiar with the Brewster, I've flown it twice and seen less than a dozen, but wouldn't the XVI pull away very quickly in a climb?
Co-E, Co-Alt.... The spit would be eating .50 cals before it could use its climb rate. If the Spit merged at much higher speed, then yes, he could zoom up. However, the Brewster can counter that by unloading and meeting the Spit head-on for the next merge.
Nonetheless, if they merged at similar speeds, the Spit would be eating lead before it completed its reverse. Think of the Brewster as a Zero with long ranging guns. Its turn radius is nearly 1/3 less than the Spit16's. There is no Spitfire that can out-turn a B-239. Not even close. If you get sucked into a turning contest, you will probably lose. Naturally, this is very much pilot dependent. I was in a lufbery with a Spit8 last night and was gaining ground with each turn... I was flying an A-20G. Before I could get around, someone else waxed the Spit. I believe the Spit8 is the best overall Spitfire, but a poor pilot can't utilize its capability.
My regards,
Widewing
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The Spit is also just such a gorgeous plane to fly.
Who would not want to fly such a handsome plane as the Spitfire??
Here are some pics from a recent air show this month:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3456/3809464356_d5c7ee7f3f_b.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/3809466280_e7cff9b834_o.jpg)
I don't know what they did to this Spitfire's cockpit, though. Perhaps it was modified to take a passenger on rides.
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probably is I think thats a seat in the back
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probably is I think thats a seat in the back
Not probably, it is.
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My firend has been flown around in the twin-seat spitfire! :cry I hate him so much
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(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/spitfire_cartoon.jpg)single seat version :D
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The Spit is also just such a gorgeous plane to fly.
Who would not want to fly such a handsome plane as the Spitfire??
Here are some pics from a recent air show this month:
Beautiful plane.
But the day glow head gear makes a nice aim point.
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I'd rather "die" to a challenge like 1xA8 vs 3xXVI than lame my way to such a "win" in a XVI.
No victory without peril.
That's not a challenge, that's suicide! Keep this topic in the realms of possibility please. ;)
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That's not a challenge, that's suicide! Keep this topic in the realms of possibility please. ;)
still boils down to the pilots.
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still boils down to the pilots.
...and the situation.
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Co-E, Co-Alt.... The spit would be eating .50 cals before it could use its climb rate. If the Spit merged at much higher speed, then yes, he could zoom up. However, the Brewster can counter that by unloading and meeting the Spit head-on for the next merge.
Nonetheless, if they merged at similar speeds, the Spit would be eating lead before it completed its reverse. Think of the Brewster as a Zero with long ranging guns. Its turn radius is nearly 1/3 less than the Spit16's. There is no Spitfire that can out-turn a B-239. Not even close. If you get sucked into a turning contest, you will probably lose. Naturally, this is very much pilot dependent. I was in a lufbery with a Spit8 last night and was gaining ground with each turn... I was flying an A-20G. Before I could get around, someone else waxed the Spit. I believe the Spit8 is the best overall Spitfire, but a poor pilot can't utilize its capability.
My regards,
Widewing
Are you assuming artificial dueling rules? There's no reason for the Spit to reverse so hard. Extending out and climbing above a Brewster in a XVI to BnZ it to death is a standard technique.
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Before you people rag on the Spitdweebs and El-Gays or whatever, consider this: Wouldn't be much of a challenge flying the "challenging" rides if no one flew the dweeb rides. They're the ones making it a challenge.
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I found this pic of a 47 running down your typical spitxteen...
(http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/tate11.jpg)
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I found this pic of a 47 running down your typical spitxteen...
Cool, the Terry Tate Jugg skin. :aok
3 weeks till coll Fball starts. :aok
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That's not a challenge, that's suicide! Keep this topic in the realms of possibility please. ;)
It's not nearly impossible to kill one of the spits in that 3:1.
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Are you assuming artificial dueling rules? There's no reason for the Spit to reverse so hard. Extending out and climbing above a Brewster in a XVI to BnZ it to death is a standard technique.
Artificial dueling rules? Standard dueling rules.....
Go back and read what I said earlier in the thread about the Spitfire needing to extend way out before reversing. Even then, a skilled pilot would meet the Spit head-on every time, forcing the Spit to choose to fire or dodge. The average Spit16 MA pilot will not be successful very often against a good stick in a Brewster. Like the Zero, BnZing a Brewster is fruitless more often than not. It can evade diving attacks. This means that the Spit will have to slow down... Just what the Brewster pilot wants. It's never as easy as it is in one's mind.
My regards,
Widewing
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If you are talking about average spitfire mkXVI pilots then lets switch that around Widewing. A decent spitfire mkxvi pilot should easily rope and despatch the average Brewster pilot. A very good Spitfire mkV on the other hand will often mix enough agility and vertical power to outfly even a well versed Brewster. The skilled mkXVI pilot would, as you say, probably lose to the skilled Brewster. But then the mkXVI is not really meant for turn and burn, its not really even a real spitfire.
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If you are talking about average spitfire mkXVI pilots then lets switch that around Widewing. A decent spitfire mkxvi pilot should easily rope and despatch the average Brewster pilot. A very good Spitfire mkV on the other hand will often mix enough agility and vertical power to outfly even a well versed Brewster. The skilled mkXVI pilot would, as you say, probably lose to the skilled Brewster. But then the mkXVI is not really meant for turn and burn, its not really even a real spitfire.
Undermost circumstances, pilots being equal, the better plane usually wins. But, not always in duels. This is due to the fact that duels often favor one type, usually the more agile of the two.
When you compare performance between the Brewster and the SpitV, you find that the Spit barely out-climbs the B-239 using WEP. Without WEP, the Spit is in the hole. Speed goes to the Spit, as long as it has WEP. Turn and roll rate go to the Brewster. In short, the SpitV pilot will have his hands very full. The Hurricane Mk.I is outclassed by the Brewster. So is the Mk.IIC, which means that the SpitV may be in over its head in a Co-E, Co-Alt match-up. We'll have to try that match-up some day.
I did duel a good stick who flying the 109F... He never hand a chance against the Brewster. Dumping flaps only sealed his fate. You have to fight the Brewster like it was an A6M2. Stay fast, avoid turning with it for more than 90 degrees. Don't even consider using flaps.
My regards,
Widewing
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I was born w/ a SPIXTEEN on my arse. :furious
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I was born w/ a SPIXTEEN on my arse. :furious
Same here.
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I will admit I like a Spit 16 and spend a bunch of time in it , it does alot but can't run and can't over power either . But I also like high eny planes most of which are early versions of all types , I just don't know why . Heck I even prefer the P-51B over the D . People tell me learn other planes and get some skill but ya know what , its not all that and a bag of chips and I do like it , so I fly it .
Nutte :salute
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Get off my ARSE! :mad:
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I will admit I like a Spit 16 and spend a bunch of time in it , it does alot but can't run and can't over power either . But I also like high eny planes most of which are early versions of all types , I just don't know why . Heck I even prefer the P-51B over the D . People tell me learn other planes and get some skill but ya know what , its not all that and a bag of chips and I do like it , so I fly it .
Nutte :salute
Well Said.
I have found no matter what plane you fly, your a dweeb to someone. :salute
Fred
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It's not nearly impossible to kill one of the spits in that 3:1.
Do you yell "Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaanzai!" :rofl
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Perkies be damned. I just can't keep away from the Spixteen. I just feel like there's nothing it can't do.
Had a really good day today, went from a .53 or so k/d to .71 right now. Two big factors in my improvement....finally getting used to the rudder pedals, and two hours I spent in training arena the other week.
Yes I care about my k/d. Someday soon I will be +. Main problem is when I get frustrated and keep trying to up at a vulched base,
Anyways, I love the Spixteen.
Good for you man! Have fun! :aok
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I have found no matter what plane you fly, your a dweeb to someone. :salute
WISDOM!
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Do you yell "Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaanzai!" :rofl
By the time Jack could see again, the Turk had grabbed the horse’s bridle with one hand and raised the other to strike. Jack, peering out sidelong through burning eyes, wheeled his musket about to make some kind of barrier between him and the bloody saber and felt a mighty shock when the two weapons connected, instantly followed by a hot blast that knocked his hands apart and spat metal into his face. The horse reared up. Under other circumstances, Jack might’ve been ready for this. As it was, blind, shocked, and burnt, he performed a reverse-somersault down the animal’s muscular ass, plunged to the ground, and then rolled away blindly, terrified that the hind hooves might come down on top of him.
At no time during these acrobatics did Jack stop holding the stock of the musket very firmly with his right hand.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2603/3815244105_dddbae2261.jpg)