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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: 68valu on August 26, 2009, 08:52:32 PM
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Okay, just built a new rig and first attempt at firing it up, everything seems to run-cpu fan case fan, gpu fan, monitor lights up and I get to the MSI motherboard bios screen and try to get to bios by delete(which it says) but no communication from keyboard. I pulled the connector cord and reinstalled it- no luck. restarted the computer(3 times)- no luck. thought maybe a bad keyboard(its brand new) so i tried a second one I know works -same result.
any Ideas? bad mobo maybe? the leds on either keyboard do light up but thats it, no input.
here is a picture
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww293/68valu/IMG_0136.jpg)
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Got a pic of the back io port panel on that case?
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Got a pic of the back io port panel on that case?
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww293/68valu/IMG_0141.jpg)
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:confused: :huh PS2 keyboard and mouse?
You happen to have a USB keyboard and mouse? The PS2 ports are probably turned off in the bios (some have that feature).
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:confused: :huh PS2 keyboard and mouse?
You happen to have a USB keyboard and mouse? The PS2 ports are probably turned off in the bios (some have that feature).
I will try that tomorrow. I dont have those here. THANKS!!
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:confused: :huh PS2 keyboard and mouse?
You happen to have a USB keyboard and mouse? The PS2 ports are probably turned off in the bios (some have that feature).
I've used a few MSI mobo's and can't recall seeing such a setting in their bios options. Even if such a setting does exist it would seem bizarre to turn off the PS2 port as a default setting. I agree completely though in trying a usb keyboard and see what happens.
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I think it's a bad mb. Just my humble opinion. However, make sure all power connections are in solid. Sometimes a system will boot if the 24 pin connection is in but the peripherals won't work.
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Looks to me like you have your cables reversed........ you have the mouse plugged into the keyboard socket and vise versa
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Looks to me like you have your cables reversed........ you have the mouse plugged into the keyboard socket and vise versa
I agree.
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Looks to me like you have your cables reversed........ you have the mouse plugged into the keyboard socket and vise versa
I have them in according to the color code and symbol.
I swapped them after the multiple reboot attempts, thinking maybe internally they were reversed but same result.
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Looks to me like you have your cables reversed........ you have the mouse plugged into the keyboard socket and vise versa
The green mouse connector is inboard in his pic as is correct in every configuration that I am used to.
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they might be right....... Im just looking at a green mouse cable with a mouse emblem on the side......... and an I/O shield with a keyboard emblem on the right socket and a mouse emblem on the left socket........ so if hes hooked up correct than from the picture it appears his I/O shield is labeled wrong
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Every motherboard I have in this building has the keyboard connector (blue) on top. The mouse (green) on the bottom.
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That's a brand new mobo isn't it, why have PS2 ports on it to begin with?
Anyone want this kickstand from a Sherman tank?
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1)unplug your mouse and keyboard.
2)plug only your keyboard into the upper right.
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My KB and mouse are in the same order as the picture on both my comps.
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Looking at the MSI mobos on newegg that have PS2 ports on them...the green port is on the right or top.
Intel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001312%2040000280&Manufactory=1312&SubCategory=280&SpeTabStoreType=1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001312%2040000280&Manufactory=1312&SubCategory=280&SpeTabStoreType=1)
AMD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200022%2050001312&name=MSI%20COMPUTER (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200022%2050001312&name=MSI%20COMPUTER)
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That's a brand new mobo isn't it, why have PS2 ports on it to begin with?
Anyone want this kickstand from a Sherman tank?
Actually I prefer the PS/2 ports over the USB ports for mouse and keyboard. Connect a Digital HD camera to your USB bus and stream in a video to the hard disk, and you will be very happy to have the mouse and keyboard off the USB bus.
So, keyboard and mouse plug location is not as standardized as I thought it was. Go figure. I have only used ASUS, Abit, Gigabyte, SuperMicro, and Tyan motherboards. They all have the keyboard above the mouse in a PS/2 configuration.
Although I just noticed, we have a Compaq in the corner and it has the keyboard on the bottom.
My bad.
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yes they vary by manufacturer...... I was simply looking at the I/O shield and jumped to that conclusion........ the I/O shield appears to have a keyboard emblem on the right and a mouse emblem on the left
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Actually I prefer the PS/2 ports over the USB ports for mouse and keyboard. Connect a Digital HD camera to your USB bus and stream in a video to the hard disk, and you will be very happy to have the mouse and keyboard off the USB bus.
I totally forgot about issues like that. I've been using a PCI USB expansion card in my systems for a few years just for cameras and other extras...keyboard and mouse always go directly to mobo input.
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According to his I/O picture. The right is the Keyboard. So according to the shield, they're reversed.
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According to his I/O picture. The right is the Keyboard. So according to the shield, they're reversed.
Exactly my point...... so if they are indeed hooked up correctly...... then his I/O shield is labeled incorrectly
LOL I had to look again to make sure I wasnt imagining things
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Exactly my point...... so if they are indeed hooked up correctly...... then his I/O shield is labeled incorrectly
LOL I had to look again to make sure I wasnt imagining things
Nope, I looked at it initially thought the mouse wire was on the 2 O' of that "right hand imprint". But the closer I looked, it is a Keyboard and QC at that MSI facility screwed it up. Makes you wonder if that was "Monday or Friday MB or I/O Shield". :devil
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That's a brand new mobo isn't it, why have PS2 ports on it to begin with?
Anyone want this kickstand from a Sherman tank?
I use a PS/2 Logitech KB from my old pc. Works fine, no BIOS tweak needed. I've never known a KB to NOT be "Plug n Play" on boot up, OS install, etc. At least of the past DFI, Gigabyte and my Current ASUS. This is spanning ME - Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
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I use a PS/2 Logitech KB from my old pc. Works fine, no BIOS tweak needed. I've never known a KB to NOT be "Plug n Play" on boot up, OS install, etc. At least of the past DFI, Gigabyte and my Current ASUS. This is spanning ME - Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
Want me to show you how to short out a PS2 connection? :D :devil
My "opinion" on PS2 is =9600 baud modem...nice at one point in time but there is much better now. USB is faster and more reliable.
I've had a couple of MSI boards...some things were bassackwards, but at one point very nice, then dog pile...haven't tried the new ones.
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Want me to show you how to short out a PS2 connection? :D :devil
My "opinion" on PS2 is =9600 baud modem...nice at one point in time but there is much better now. USB is faster and more reliable.
I've had a couple of MSI boards...some things were bassackwards, but at one point very nice, then dog pile...haven't tried the new ones.
:D
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Whatever folks, the ports are color coded be they right, left, top or bottom. The OP has stated they are connected per color code.
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Whatever folks, the ports are color coded be they right, left, top or bottom. The OP has stated they are connected per color code.
That is correct and as stated earlier, I have tried them in the opposite ports with the same result.
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Whatever folks, the ports are color coded be they right, left, top or bottom. The OP has stated they are connected per color code.
....and Manufacturers can mess things up too.
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This isnt a wireless mouse/keyboard by chance is it? and yes I obviously see the wires coming out of the computer lol........ but they might lead to the receiver as mine does
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This isnt a wireless mouse/keyboard by chance is it? and yes I obviously see the wires coming out of the computer lol........ but they might lead to the receiver as mine does
non wireless.
I bought a usb keyboard/mouse today. i'm going to try it this evening.
Maybe the mobo has a bad ps/2 port?
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Maybe the mobo has a bad ps/2 port?
That would be my guess..... though Ive had this problem before as well..... just cant remember how I fixed it......
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That would be my guess..... though Ive had this problem before as well..... just cant remember how I fixed it......
If you happen to remember, let me know!!
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OK tried the USB route- no help!
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Ya I kinda figured it wouldnt work.... unlike what the previous poster suggested...... boards are not defaulted to PS/2 off......... however, many are defaulted to USB off......... you need to get into BIOS to enable support for your USB keyboard.... unfortunately you cannot do that without a functioning PS/2 keyboard.........
IMO you have a bad mobo and should try to RMA it :(
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however, many are defaulted to USB off.
IMO you have a bad mobo and should try to RMA it :(
In the last 5 years there has yet to be a single mobo manufacturer default the bios to have USB turned off, especially with built in USB ports...booting to a USB bootable device has been disabled out of the box...
If the USB ports and the PS2 ports are none responsive to keyboard input...as batch recommends, RMA that mobo. It's better to be safe than sorry.
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Thanks guys
I agree
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RTFM.
The shield shows them in the incorrect position - if they are color coded differently in the connectors (which we can't see) he should review the manual for the correct position. It's much less likely to be incorrect than either the color coding or the shield stamping.
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RTFM.
The shield shows them in the incorrect position - if they are color coded differently in the connectors (which we can't see) he should review the manual for the correct position. It's much less likely to be incorrect than either the color coding or the shield stamping.
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Too late Ghastly he already took the incorrect colors into consideration...
I have them in according to the color code and symbol.
I swapped them after the multiple reboot attempts, thinking maybe internally they were reversed but same result.