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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Saxman on September 27, 2009, 01:08:25 PM
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Ok, seriously, when did the History Channel become Conspiracy Theory and Pseudo-Science Central?
There was a program on last night about a supposed Templar voyage to the Americas (not technically IMPOSSIBLE, seeing as how the Norse DID know America was there and Greenland was inhabited by their colonists up until the 14th Century) based on the Kensington Runestone. While the theory was certainly interesting, a LOT of information they purported to be "fact" was dubious or contrived, if not outright debunked by reputable historians (such as the St. Clair/Templar connection. Yeah, there was a connection. The St. Clairs testified AGAINST the order).
The only time it seems I want to turn it on any more is when they're running Band of Brothers. Everything else is sensationalist pop-culture garbage like UFO Hunters and MonsterQuest.
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Agreed. Its mainly because of 9/11 theorists feeding misinformation as of late. Seeing as such people also tend to believe in UFO's and cryptozoology(Bigfoot, Nessy and Chubacabra) The people at History decide its a good idea to try and increase there ratings by appealing to that market for many time slots.
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At least they've still got Lock and Load. R. Lee Ermey is the man!
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The past three times I went by the history channel it was a program on about the end of the world.
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thats why I have the military channel as well
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See Rule #6
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Yes THC is becoming a load of crap. When I tune to it, play're usually showing Deadlist Catch or that stupid reality show about logging. :furious
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Heres their favorite programs:
2012 bullsheet, Freemasons bullsheet, Monsterquest bullsheet, Al Capone bullsheet, Hitler was insane bullsheet, some 50 year old documentary on something i dont care about, Band of Brothers...sometimes.
Why History? Why? We miss Enterprise, Patton 360, Dogfights, Shootout, and all the WW2 stuff u used to air....
Well, Hitler was insane...
:noid
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I admit I like pawnstars. But god I miss Dogfights and Battle360.
As for the end of the world. In my oppion I can't wait. I have so little faith in humanity. The Christmas Truce and thats about the extent of the exception that proves the rule.
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The History Channel's suck factor is growing.
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Well, Hitler was insane...
:noid
Yes, i gathered as much after the sixth time they aired the documentary......
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Yes, i gathered as much after the sixth time they aired the documentary......
:rofl :rofl
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At least they've still got Lock and Load. R. Lee Ermey is the man!
+1 :aok
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At least they've still got Lock and Load. R. Lee Ermey is the man!
his voice is very irritating, i was in the marines, the DI's do not talk like that ALL the time.
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seriously
What the hell man?
monsterquest sucks, UFO files sucks
If i bought the history channel i would run Modern Marvels, Band of Brothers, Dogfights and Patton/Enterprise 360.
And when The Pacific comes out i will air that too.
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I gotta give them Modern Marvels. I really do like that show. It's interesting enough for me to watch it when I want, and to knock me out when I want to sleep.
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As far as the "History Channel" goes, LOL!!! Just the name is a joke these days!!! But you have to remember who the parent company is, and how they are COMPLETELY OWNED, by ppl of a certain political persuasion!
The LAST thing they want to do, is portray Americans as heroic historical figures... So they avoid it!!!
I could go much deeper into this, but Skuzzy would nail me with the banstick....!
RC
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Yeah I miss dogfights too. One of the best shows ever! The production values were probably too high, and there's a limited amount of people in this world with the sophistication required to properly appreciate aerial combat.
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The only problem with modern marvels is that just about everytime i see it it's on carbon which i have seen at least 5 times.
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The only problem with modern marvels is that just about everytime i see it it's on carbon which i have seen at least 5 times.
I loved the Swords, Knives and Axes one, first place I learned about the German school of swordsmanship. I've been throwing it in the face of elitist Japanese sword buffs ever since. :D
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THC is corporate history. Not even real history anymore.
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Read a book, some even have pictures.
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Read a book, some even have pictures.
:O
<---- reading about the P38 mission to kill yamamoto. Inspired by googling my own name. :noid
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:x
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I noticed about two years ago that the History Channel seems to think they have to compete for viewers with the Discovery Channel and the SciFi Channel. (ie- Monsterquest is on opposite Ghost Hunters. Or at least it used to be, dunno for sure now. And WTF is 'The Universe' doing on there? Doesn't that crap belong on TDC? Oh, thats right, they had their own 'Planet Earth' series running at the same time, silly me...)
I've actually sent them about a dozen nasty emails over the last 3 years or so (starting with two weeks straight of NOTHING BUT the 1906 SanFran earthquake) and I get the same form response "Thank You For Your Input" letters every time. The last year or so I only watch THC when its a show that got DVRed for me (Like Lock 'n Load), almost never watch it 'live', because its only something worth watching once a week.
It isn't even 'The Hitler Channel' anymore, like it was for years. Now its 'SciFi Lite'.
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I like the Engineering an Empire series; it is a great series for seeing the effects of how some of these people did things that we would have a hard time re-creating today even with our supposed technological insight.
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The History Channel's suck factor is growing.
Along with most of network TV.
The reality show trend is a measure of the nations growing stupidity.
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My question is how can people watch reality tv. I have tried but it's just so hard to dumb down enough to enjoy most of it.
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Try History international, its a little better...
But they seem to have a programming cycle that resets over and over... And they only change it quarterly...
They do have some interesting stuff on occasionally... And if ya miss it, It'll be on again soon enough, LOL!!!!
Last night was a multiepisode on the Gestapo.. Was pretty good, mmmm 7.5, on my scale... Had some good info,
and no major innacuracies, that I could tell... Also period film wasn't miss ID'd with the narration... Overall pretty good!!!
Strange how some of the nastier social aspects of that nazi era, are being paralelled right now.. Such as control of media!!!
Indoctrination of the young!!! Demonization of opposition thru "Message control"!!! It is all, OBVIOUS AS HELL!!!
This is exactly why, hard core history as a topic, is getting glossed over... The powers that be, definately
don't want the public to notice these blatent paralells with a very dark past.... All signs of a DARK FUTURE on the horizon!!
RC
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his voice is very irritating, i was in the marines, the DI's do not talk like that ALL the time.
Gunny has been taking over acting lessons from William Shatner...that's the only thing that irritates me about him.
I did have a DI that talked like that, all the time. Friggin former Recon nutcase, did a tour in Cambodia, or so he claimed...he ate onions and garlic for breakfast just so he could spend the entire day in your face.
I like most of the programming on the history/nat geo channels...it's all owned by the same corporate turds anyway. Just like every other commercial station, they sell "popular television". Anything to make you watch it...even the stupid "reality" b.s. (which is sensationalized reality). Just have to take it with a grain of salt.
Remember until about what 20(?) years ago, Christopher Columbus was the first European to step foot on the "new world"...now we all know better...everything we think we know about history changes as new evidence is found.
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Agreed. Its mainly because of 9/11 theorists feeding misinformation as of late. Seeing as such people also tend to believe in UFO's..............
Dont believe in UFO's?
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Remember until about what 20(?) years ago, Christopher Columbus was the first European to step foot on the "new world"...now we all know better...everything we think we know about history changes as new evidence is found.
That's why I thought this program was going to be interesting, until they dove into all that Freemason Invented History nonsense (the ONLY connection between the Templars and Masons is in the minds of the Masons). The Norse had Greenland settled for over half a millenium. They had a colony for at least a few years on the North American continent itself beginning around 1000AD, and had discussed the probability of returning for permanent settlement into the 14th Century.
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I prefer to read to get facts.
There are a great number of books out there about WWII aerial combat and ground combat that are
factual and outstanding.
If you need some titles just ask.
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That's why I thought this program was going to be interesting, until they dove into all that Freemason Invented History nonsense (the ONLY connection between the Templars and Masons is in the minds of the Masons). The Norse had Greenland settled for over half a millenium. They had a colony for at least a few years on the North American continent itself beginning around 1000AD, and had discussed the probability of returning for permanent settlement into the 14th Century.
Yeah I haven't seen any substantial evidence of actual ties between the Templars and the Masons...most of what's being said is pure speculation. Did you see the show on the Illuminati? On that one they speculated that after they were pretty much wiped out, "secret members" of the illuminati infiltrated the Masons. :huh Supposedly there are some Mason rituals and symbols from the Illuminati. :huh
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bread and circuses
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Yeah I haven't seen any substantial evidence of actual ties between the Templars and the Masons...most of what's being said is pure speculation. Did you see the show on the Illuminati? On that one they speculated that after they were pretty much wiped out, "secret members" of the illuminati infiltrated the Masons. :huh Supposedly there are some Mason rituals and symbols from the Illuminati. :huh
Yeah, just like there's supposed to be Templar rituals.
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You can always turn the tv off. :O
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You can always turn the tv off. :O
But then what willI use to drown out the voices!?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yan77UKYcg4
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Agreed. Its mainly because of 9/11 theorists feeding misinformation as of late. Seeing as such people also tend to believe in UFO's and cryptozoology(Bigfoot, Nessy and Chubacabra) The people at History decide its a good idea to try and increase there ratings by appealing to that market for many time slots.
I don't believe in those things you listed above however I do have serious questions regarding 9/11/01. I don't think it is such a bad or evil thing, I just don't buy the official commision report on it.
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As far as the "History Channel" goes, LOL!!! Just the name is a joke these days!!! But you have to remember who the parent company is, and how they are COMPLETELY OWNED, by ppl of a certain political persuasion!
The LAST thing they want to do, is portray Americans as heroic historical figures... So they avoid it!!!
I could go much deeper into this, but Skuzzy would nail me with the banstick....!
RC
Your first mistake is assuming "history" started in 1776 in Philadelphia.
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As far as the "History Channel" goes, LOL!!! Just the name is a joke these days!!! But you have to remember who the parent company is, and how they are COMPLETELY OWNED, by ppl of a certain political persuasion!
The LAST thing they want to do, is portray Americans as heroic historical figures... So they avoid it!!!
I could go much deeper into this, but Skuzzy would nail me with the banstick....!
RC
Read a book called "American Holocaust",it has things they never taught in history class.
Not all American history is heroic.
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Read a book called "American Holocaust",it has things they never taught in history class.
Not all American history is heroic.
No, but not all of it needs to be reevaluated and repackaged every time we decide there's another ethnic group we don't want to offend either. Some of our history has been rehashed and muddled up so much its almost impossible to tell whats the truth and whats propaganda any more.
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No, but not all of it needs to be reevaluated and repackaged every time we decide there's another ethnic group we don't want to offend either. Some of our history has been rehashed and muddled up so much its almost impossible to tell whats the truth and whats propaganda any more.
Kinda funny you say that: I saw a program on netgeo regarding the "peak oil theory" and how they tried to rationalize $4.50 per gallon we paid 18 months ago. Now they made 2 new major discoveries and peak oil theory some say is a fraud. Point is it was propaganda to justify high oil prices.
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Kinda funny you say that: I saw a program on netgeo regarding the "peak oil theory" and how they tried to rationalize $4.50 per gallon we paid 18 months ago. Now they made 2 new major discoveries and peak oil theory some say is a fraud. Point is it was propaganda to justify high oil prices.
That's not propaganda. That's just greed at work.
When gas prices go up citing falling production due to natural disasters, terrorist rhetoric or whatever excuse they come up with that week, and then the oil companies report a MASSIVE increase in profits, you know something's rotten.
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That's not propaganda. That's just greed at work.
When gas prices go up citing falling production due to natural disasters, terrorist rhetoric or whatever excuse they come up with that week, and then the oil companies report a MASSIVE increase in profits, you know something's rotten.
You knew something was rotten when they first jacked up the prices during (not after) Katrina. Somehow all the gas that was already in the tanks under the station was suddenly worth $1.50 more a gallon.
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MORAY and usvi
You guys can feel as sorry as you like for all the ppl who have been stepped on by American society thru our history, you can appologize for it if you like as well... I WON'T!!! If the country is that bad, you can always LEAVE TOO!! But I'll bet ya don't!!!
Of course, there have been times in American history when things did not end well for some ppl... But there is no other country in history that has done MORE, to help ppl all over the world...
That includes BLEEDING for them, when noone else would!!! This, I have seen, with my OWN eyes!!! When you have played an active part in history as it happens, you view things thru that prism for life....
Ya mean there was a world history before there was a United States? Your Kiddin? NO WAY!!! LOL!!!
RC
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There's an alternative (http://www.pbs.org/nationalparks/history/ep1/).
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:noid
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What have the yanks done for us!
What have the Romans done for us! (Monty Python 'Life of Brian')
Any of you Yanks got Pamela Anderson's phone number? Pls
Good book to read 'Fly for your life' Stanford Tuck.
Hurrah! and Tally Ho!
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THC is corporate history. Not even real history anymore.
It never was. I remember when the channel was new. We used to joke that it was the "Hitler Channel." Seven out of ten shows were about what happened to Hitler in the bunker, what sort of astrology was Hitler into, why did people follow Hitler, etc.
When I was a boy I did enjoy the Wings and Wings of the Luftwaffe series on the Discovery Channel. I don't know what happened to their programming, but by the late '90s those shows were on their death beds and a new generation of more commercially viable programming was on its way.
If you know that it's entertainment on the level of any other TV show, then it's fine. What gets me is the stuff that's passed off as documentary that doesn't even touch journalistic standards.
If I want to see a good documentary, then I'll find myself watching something produced by the BBC or, occasionally, PBS. Quality documentaries are never going to be commercially viable in a media market that's saturated with short-attention-span entertainment.
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Was Hitler's dad his uncle?
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When I was a boy I did enjoy the Wings and Wings of the Luftwaffe series on the Discovery Channel. I don't know what happened to their programming, but by the late '90s those shows were on their death beds and a new generation of more commercially viable programming was on its way.
Discovery also had a lot of complaints in the '90s that they were a warmonger channel, back when a lot of their programming was geared towards the WWII enthusiast- Wings (and its spinoffs), GI Diary, reairings of all the old war documentaries, etc. They lost most of that programming in one season and started airing the crap they've been airing since. (OK, we get it, baby animals are cute, can we move on?)
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Discovery also had a lot of complaints in the '90s that they were a warmonger channel, back when a lot of their programming was geared towards the WWII enthusiast- Wings (and its spinoffs), GI Diary, reairings of all the old war documentaries, etc. They lost most of that programming in one season and started airing the crap they've been airing since. (OK, we get it, baby animals are cute, can we move on?)
At least we have the Mythbusters around to blow @$%& up. :D
(http://10toes.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/mythbusters.jpg)
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MORAY and usvi
You guys can feel as sorry as you like for all the ppl who have been stepped on by American society thru our history, you can appologize for it if you like as well... I WON'T!!! If the country is that bad, you can always LEAVE TOO!! But I'll bet ya don't!!!
Of course, there have been times in American history when things did not end well for some ppl... But there is no other country in history that has done MORE, to help ppl all over the world...
That includes BLEEDING for them, when noone else would!!! This, I have seen, with my OWN eyes!!! When you have played an active part in history as it happens, you view things thru that prism for life....
Ya mean there was a world history before there was a United States? Your Kiddin? NO WAY!!! LOL!!!
RC
I never brought America into this discussion. You did.
Quote from: RipChord929 on 2009-09-27, 19:30:55
As far as the "History Channel" goes, LOL!!! Just the name is a joke these days!!! But you have to remember who the parent company is, and how they are COMPLETELY OWNED, by ppl of a certain political persuasion!
The LAST thing they want to do, is portray Americans as heroic historical figures... So they avoid it!!!
You also make an assumption about me. Yet, I will point out that a fact cannot be changed. There have been heroic American figures. The 5 from my family that bled and died so that you may berate me here are such heroic figures. As well, you know absolutely nothing of my own service to this country. Take a second prior to posting, next time, before you say something stupid again.
My point was that you brought in "American heroic figures" into a "History" thread. Not an "American History" thread. I was bothered that in your contextual reference you failed to be aware that written history started many thousands of years prior to the signing of the Declaration of Independence. This is an ongoing problem with people of your mindset, and is dangerous. It provides one with a myopic vision of world events.
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Guys, can we please get away from politics and back to the awful programming choices before Skuzzy comes in swinging?
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I never brought America into this discussion. You did.
You also make an assumption about me. Yet, I will point out that a fact cannot be changed. There have been heroic American figures. The 5 from my family that bled and died so that you may berate me here are such heroic figures. As well, you know absolutely nothing of my own service to this country. Take a second prior to posting, next time, before you say something stupid again.
My point was that you brought in "American heroic figures" into a "History" thread. Not an "American History" thread. I was bothered that in your contextual reference you failed to be aware that written history started many thousands of years prior to the signing of the Declaration of Independence. This is an ongoing problem with people of your mindset, and is dangerous. It provides one with a myopic vision of world events.
LOL, Some things I take for granted, maybe I should not.. For example, the fact that MOST ppl in the world know, (unless you were born as a part of a prehistoric throwback tribe from the interior of Borneo), that the word "HISTORY", is an all encompassing term, that includes ALL aspects of Historical reference.. Ancient History, Roman History, Medieval History, European History, PRE HISTORIC, (as in, before the written word), Archeological History, Geological History, even Galactic History, all the way back to the freaking BIG BANG, fall under that umbrella term.. And yes that includes AMERICAN History.. So your "Point" is stupid in and of itself!!
To selectively miss something that simple, and freakishly obvious, you MUST have a college education!!
And, it makes me wonder, (with all this family history), why you would feel that it should be excluded from same.. Or, is this yet another one of those, "Overeducated idiocy things", that I see so much of these days!!!
This selective outlook on world events, is what is Truly Dangerous!! And has been proven Over and Over!!!
RC
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Ten exclamation points and five capitalized words later, a rant about the History channel not giving America enough credit comes to fruition.
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Ten exclamation points and five capitalized words later, a rant about the History channel not giving America enough credit comes to fruition.
Priceless, Anax. Absolutely priceless quote.
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Ten exclamation points and five capitalized words later, a rant about the History channel not giving America enough credit comes to fruition.
Ouch....lol