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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Boxman on October 26, 2009, 11:36:40 PM
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Apparently one of my squaddies has 10+ kills in Navy fighters in WWII and flew hiw first combat during Midway.
Anyone know of any other WWII vets in our skies?
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Is he the one who won't give his real name? Or someone else?
Make me look like the horses a... we all know I am and give us some background.
I've seen too many "My dad owns a B-17" or "I received the Medal of Honor"'s to believe anything anyone says on the intardnet at first glance.
So, while you're flaming me, also offer some proof other than them saying "I was...." because I am truly interested and would be proud to actually know that they are who they claim to be.
You may commence firing.
wrongway
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Battle of Midway was in 1942. How old were the youngest fighter pilots back then? 18? Would make that guy at least around 85 now... quite a very old age for someone playing a video game.
Is it Mr. "Over"?
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Nope, although he does claim to be 94. I don't really wanna give his name, but his stories sound real.
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If he's a 10 kill ace, it should be easy enough to confirm it. Too many guys have claimed stuff over the years not to be a bit skeptical.
Only WW2 fighter pilot I know of that flew AW and some AH was Earl Miller who flew 39s and 47s with the 345th FS, 350th FG in the MTO. I got to visit his home a couple times as he wasn't far from me. Many of the AW guys met him at the Indy AW Con as well. As nice a guy as you'd ever want to meet. Silver Star, DFC flying Ground attack North Africa and Italy.
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Nope, although he does claim to be 94. I don't really wanna give his name, but his stories sound real.
Too young to be Silat, although he did fight in Thermopylae
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I would be sad if it's untrue, and I really think there's a chance he's for real.
He knew an awful lot about Wildcats. Also cleaimed the Japanese did NOT sink any of our arriers at Midway.
We either scuttled or destroyed them with our own torps/cannons.
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Battle of Midway was in 1942. How old were the youngest fighter pilots back then? 18? Would make that guy at least around 85 now... quite a very old age for someone playing a video game.
Is it Mr. "Over"?
That's who I really, really, really want to find out I'm wrong about.
Please, please, please, please??
wrongway
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I would be sad if it's untrue, and I really think there's a chance he's for real.
He knew an awful lot about Wildcats. Also cleaimed the Japanese did NOT sink any of our arriers at Midway.
We either scuttled or destroyed them with our own torps/cannons.
That's strike one.
The only U.S. Carrier sunk at Midway did so after two attempts to salvage and tow her back to Pearl Harbor. The second attempt coming after she was hit by two of four torpedoes fired by the Japanese submarine I-168.
Yorktown eventually turned over and sank.
wrongway
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Well, he's claiming the history books are wrong on that. And yes, he does say "Over" on VOX.
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Too young to be Silat, although he did fight in Thermopylae
That's were he got in the habit of wearing skirts :D
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There are still three pilots from Midway still living that I know about but none of them flew fighters. One SBD one TBD and one Catalina pilot are still living for sure so its possible.
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Ive never believed anyones "stories" since Ive been on these games back in the mid 90s. Maybe Ive missed something special..who knows..but I never let anyone blow smoke up my 6.
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I'm just going to straight up ask him his name and gtry and get some confirmation.
My only concern is that if it's true, he may not want all the attention.
I asked a few of my squadmates if they believed it, and they never asked for confirmation, but stated his stories are consistant.
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I only know of two that had experience in WWII and later flew in AW or AH and one of them isn't around anymore.
The other is still around and is in JG11. He is an incredibly humble and respectful guy, so out of respect for his privacy I won't mention his name.
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Too young to be Silat, although he did fight in Thermopylae
:rofl
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Here is one word reason why people are leery about believing most folks any more. Voss
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Here is one word reason why people are leery about believing most folks any more. Voss
Voss? What is that? I know a place in Norway that's called Voss tho.. :headscratch:
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I'm just going to straight up ask him his name and gtry and get some confirmation.
My only concern is that if it's true, he may not want all the attention.
I asked a few of my squadmates if they believed it, and they never asked for confirmation, but stated his stories are consistant.
You don't know the names of the guys in your squad? Are all of the squads like that, I mean, is that the norm around here? I know all the Musketeers names, but we have a private mailing list, not an online forum. I know we have a different kind of a squad, but not knowing the guys you fly with seems kinda crazy to me.
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I'm just going to straight up ask him his name and gtry and get some confirmation.
My only concern is that if it's true, he may not want all the attention.
I asked a few of my squadmates if they believed it, and they never asked for confirmation, but stated his stories are consistant.
If he wanted to keep his privacy, he wouldn't be telling war stories. Why tell the stories but not reveal your identity?
surely he can understand doubt over a 94 year old fighter ace playing this game. I would love to believe it's true. Over.
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Too young to be Silat, although he did fight in Thermopylae
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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I only know of two that had experience in WWII and later flew in AW or AH and one of them isn't around anymore.
The other is still around and is in JG11. He is an incredibly humble and respectful guy, so out of respect for his privacy I won't mention his name.
Thank you Del.
And he won't be with us forever. We thought we were losing him after this tour, but he has signed on for at least 6 more month's as he wants to share his next birthday with us and be active in JG11 on that day, for which we are not only thankful, but honored as well.
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"...he may not want all the attention"
Then he never would have said a thing if that was the case.
"My only concern is that if it's true"
Maybe. Slim chance though. I think the real reason you don't want to press
this player is ..."I would be sad if it's untrue.."
IMO you WANT to believe he's a bonifide ace from WWII (" I really think there's
a chance he's for real" ) and there's absolutley nothing wrong with that but
deep inside you know he's not. And we do too.
Been there. Done that. Got the "I"m with gullible" t-shirt as proof
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Well heres a true story of a vet playing:
My grandfather was engineer / bombardier on B-17s in the 97th BG, 341st SQ. He flew from Africa and Italy.
He always got a kick out of my brother and I playing Aces over Europe and Aces over the Pacific when we were young. He would have us show him how to land on a carrier and try it himself every now and again.
He has about 10 mins experience with AH2. I showed it to him to show how much better the games have gotten since 10 years ago. We took up a b-17 and talked for a bit but had to leave for dinner with the family.
So there you go. A real ww2 guy that has played AH2.
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so its 10+ victories now is it? last I heard it was 5 or 6. I'd like it to be true but I'm not convinced. I've heard 2 genuine vets take him to task on this and he wouldnt respond.
I dont think this is a trivial claim, either its true and he deserves our utmost respect, or its untrue and he deserves our contempt. isnt it a federal offense to impersonate a vet?
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Atleast he isn't claming he flew F-18s
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Thank you Del.
And he won't be with us forever. We thought we were losing him after this tour, but he has signed on for at least 6 more month's as he wants to share his next birthday with us and be active in JG11 on that day, for which we are not only thankful, but honored as well.
Honored only begins to say what he brings to the squad. :salute
Watched him flame a guy last night, and I love when this happens. You will not find a better spirit in this game, or a better singer! :airplane: :noid
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Atleast he isn't claming he flew F-18s
you look here bud
i was an f-18 pilot in WW2, i owned. so back off :noid :bolt:
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you look here bud
i was an f-18 pilot in WW2, i owned. so back off :noid :bolt:
:lol
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I know of who you speak frodo, stampf and truly he is a class act.
He makes no claims (that I've heard) other than being in a certain place doing a certain job at a certain age. (quite young)
I too am truly honored to call this man friend.
And after watching him for several years will gladly vouch for his veracity and honesty.
Indeed am willing to stake my entire AH reputation on him. (There are not many I'd say that for)
He is a joy to share the sky's with. Whats more he is perhaps a shining example of how best to interact with people in an online environment. He is grace personified, class defined, honesty and integrity brought to life.
<S> Sir
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Thank you Del.
And he won't be with us forever. We thought we were losing him after this tour, but he has signed on for at least 6 more month's as he wants to share his next birthday with us and be active in JG11 on that day, for which we are not only thankful, but honored as well.
I would like to ask you a favor Stampf, shoot me a pm when that day is approaching, I would like to fly with you guys on it.
shamus
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I can't recall if it was WB's or AH but Pyro or Hitech can confirm that some of the Tuskegee Airman flew online one nite some years back (all members of the 332nd as I recall).
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I can't recall if it was WB's or AH but Pyro or Hitech can confirm that some of the Tuskegee Airman flew online one nite some years back (all members of the 332nd as I recall).
It was WB, and I flew against them that night with Rexx. Got our arses handed to us we did! :devil
Anyone remember the scenario we did with the Air Force Academy guys? :airplane:
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I know of who you speak frodo, stampf and truly he is a class act.
He makes no claims (that I've heard) other than being in a certain place doing a certain job at a certain age. (quite young)
I too am truly honored to call this man friend.
And after watching him for several years will gladly vouch for his veracity and honesty.
Indeed am willing to stake my entire AH reputation on him. (There are not many I'd say that for)
He is a joy to share the sky's with. Whats more he is perhaps a shining example of how best to interact with people in an online environment. He is grace personified, class defined, honesty and integrity brought to life.
<S> Sir
:aok
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It was WB, and I flew against them that night with Rexx. Got our arses handed to us we did! :devil
Anyone remember the scenario we did with the Air Force Academy guys? :airplane:
Yeah I flew that nite too, as BigJim (which is my current handle ingame) and actually shot one of them down, but i am sure he didn't see me coming.
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Honored only begins to say what he brings to the squad. :salute
Watched him flame a guy last night, and I love when this happens. You will not find a better spirit in this game, or a better singer! :airplane: :noid
Well said Frodo.....
:salute JG11
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In before the lock.
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In before the lock.
If you want the thread locked just ask for it don't be coy
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In before the lock.
:huh
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Thank you Del.
And he won't be with us forever. We thought we were losing him after this tour, but he has signed on for at least 6 more month's as he wants to share his next birthday with us and be active in JG11 on that day, for which we are not only thankful, but honored as well.
WOOT THE BIG 8 - 0 :salute My favorite person in the game (*cough* besides chappy)! Nothing but class!
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I remember Hitech saying his dad played. Also a vet and served on Subs. :salute
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In before the lock.
Sorry, I thought this thread was going to turn into a Voss/Adonai spectacle.
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I know of who you speak frodo, stampf and truly he is a class act.
He makes no claims (that I've heard) other than being in a certain place doing a certain job at a certain age. (quite young)
I too am truly honored to call this man friend.
And after watching him for several years will gladly vouch for his veracity and honesty.
Indeed am willing to stake my entire AH reputation on him. (There are not many I'd say that for)
He is a joy to share the sky's with. Whats more he is perhaps a shining example of how best to interact with people in an online environment. He is grace personified, class defined, honesty and integrity brought to life.
<S> Sir
I couldn't have said it any better myself. This gentleman is truly my favorite person in AH. Always has a positive attitude. I enjoy talking to him whenever I see him online.
I would like to ask you a favor Stampf, shoot me a pm when that day is approaching, I would like to fly with you guys on it.
Stampf, I would be honored to attend this night as well. Please PM me.
#S#
Banshee7
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Apparently one of my squaddies has 10+ kills in Navy fighters in WWII and flew hiw first combat during Midway.
Anyone know of any other WWII vets in our skies?
boxman my dad flew ww2. and was intel after war he kept list of aces birth dates home towns and kills and types of planes. So he could get home towns to honor these men. I'm sorry to say going thru his list that no one with 10 plus kills PTO. born 1915 is still alive or were navy pilots. list is not that big for navy over 10kills and born 1915.and for 1914 was none.And its hard to believe A doctor would let 94 yearold sit in chair long enough to play aces high. why do you think alot here die of heart attacks. Blood clots 94 yearold could clot in less than a hr. Now in Warbird s my father did play couple of times he was not a ace in ww2 but was hop pilot, his job was to bring planes forward after woman brought them to bases behind our lines. woman were not alowed to bring planes to foreward bases. he would be 82 now if still alive.
uncle morris was ace but only barely. I did show Bob curry ( i might be spelling it wrong) who worked at AIRZOO in kalamazoo Mi as a tour guide( on of few places tour guideds were ww2 and korea pilots} aces high on a laptop. he did try to fly and laughed at me when i asked him if it felt real at all. Bob was youngest pilot to have a kill in ww2 he was 15 and 1/2 years old. if you just said guys first name i could answer u in secs if he really was.
again all i would need is first name not town or anything else.
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The only WWII vet that I know of in Aces High was an unwilling combatant and never boasts about it.
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boxman Look at TEX Hills memorial in 2007 Tex hill was said to be oldest living ace of ww2 for americans double aces.
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boxman Look at TEX Hills memorial in 2007 Tex hill was said to be oldest living ace of ww2 for americans double aces.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/wsf254/TeX-1.jpg)
I got to meet and speak with him several times WOOT Another class act!
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And he won't be with us forever. We thought we were losing him after this tour, but he has signed on for at least 6 more month's as he wants to share his next birthday with us and be active in JG11 on that day, for which we are not only thankful, but honored as well.
I'm absolutely honored to fly with him.
And personally, he's such a positive guy. Always young in spirit.
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I would like to ask you a favor Stampf, shoot me a pm when that day is approaching, I would like to fly with you guys on it.
shamus
Of course. I know he will enjoy that.
I couldn't have said it any better myself. This gentleman is truly my favorite person in AH. Always has a positive attitude. I enjoy talking to him whenever I see him online.
Stampf, I would be honored to attend this night as well. Please PM me.
#S#
Banshee7
Will do.
WOOT THE BIG 8 - 0 :salute My favorite person in the game (*cough* besides chappy)! Nothing but class!
For certain.
Ghost - If we could all live to his age and be known remembered with the words you used, imagine what a place the world could be. <S>
The only WWII vet that I know of in Aces High was an unwilling combatant and never boasts about it.
Indeed Gmon. I would love to tell his story. For I am fortunate to have spent much time with him and know it well, and he has shared photo's and stories of his life with me. But it is not my place to do so, nor has he ever inclined to purpose to want it told. I have come to love the old man, not for what he did in the past, but for what he brings to the present, and feel like I know him, his wife, and kids like my own. Such is his personality and sharing of things dear to him. Truly from another time, getting to know this man has been far and away the most unexpected and outstanding experience here for me. Nuf said.
Everyone: Yes, we will do something in April... even if nothing more than an open squad channel so everyone can come by with a well wish. He may be retiring from AH. For my part I will go to all ends to keep him among us, but of course will respect his decision.
Everyone here who knows him, knows well he wants no recognition, no fan fare, or anything of the like kind.
What would make his day more than anything else, would be for just folks stopping by to wish him health, peace, and a happy day.
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I enjoyed every moment of flying with Stampf and the staffel during my JG11 time and I've had the honor to fly alongside one of Aces High's finest players. I don't know him personally but just from his online presence seems to make everything that much more of an experience.
Stampf, I would be honored to be able to fly on that special day as well if that's okay with you.
:salute
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I'm absolutely honored to fly with him.
And personally, he's such a positive guy. Always young in spirit.
Could not agree more. Young in spirit but a wise 'ol man he is... :old:
Truly an honor to fly with the man.
:salute
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John "calfes" Bellew flew with me in the Texas Rattlesnakes Fighter Squadron back in Warbirds circa 2001. We were squad mates for months before I learned he was a vet. He was a pleasant fellow, but quiet spoken online.
:salute calfes
Stalwart
a.k.a. topjmy
C.O. Texas Rattlesnakes Fighter Squadron
2000-2006
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you look here bud
i was an f-18 pilot in WW2, i owned. so back off :noid :bolt:
Didnt you kill some Germans when they bombed pearl harbor?
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Ive never believed anyones "stories" since Ive been on these games back in the mid 90s. Maybe Ive missed something special..who knows..but I never let anyone blow smoke up my 6.
Played any WW2OL lately?
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There was a guy who flew FR in AW that claimed to be Lefty Gardner's son. Never bought that one, either.
I think Eugene Carson, a tail gunner on a B-17, flew with us for a while in the 327th.
I remember Widewing saying he'd had a couple of real pilots fool with AH, don't know if they ever flew online.
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I post this photo now and then. Since we're talking about WW2 vets who play or played in this case. This is Earl Miller in his P39 Eloise over Tunisia. He flew AH for a bit after flying AW for a long time. Fencer was kind enough to skin Earl's 39 for AH so we can fly it now ourselves :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Eloise2.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Eloise1.jpg)
Earl in front of one of two P38Gs the 345th FS, 350th FG had to try and counter high alt LW recce birds the 39s couldn't get to.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1095972648_earl382.jpg)
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I post this photo now and then. Since we're talking about WW2 vets who play or played in this case. This is Earl Miller in his P39 Eloise over Tunisia. He flew AH for a bit after flying AW for a long time. Fencer was kind enough to skin Earl's 39 for AH so we can fly it now ourselves :)
Do you happen to remember what cpid he flew under in AW?
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"Fencer was kind enough to skin Earl's 39 for AH so we can fly it now ourselves"
Was just going to ask. Thanks!
How is he btw? I hope well.
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Honored only begins to say what he brings to the squad. :salute
Watched him flame a guy last night, and I love when this happens. You will not find a better spirit in this game, or a better singer! :airplane: :noid
I think we truly fly our best FSO's when we start the night out with a song from him. :aok
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I only know of two that had experience in WWII and later flew in AW or AH and one of them isn't around anymore.
The other is still around and is in JG11. He is an incredibly humble and respectful guy, so out of respect for his privacy I won't mention his name.
Delirium,
I'd be interested in what one of these veterans thinks of AH's simulation. They could pass it through a 3rd Party like you for annonimity sake. Perhaps it's been posted before, but I have yet to see it. There is a lot of board talk about the flight models etc, all of course from folks that never flew these plane. A real life WWII pilot's insight would be very very informative.
God bless any of those pilots that are still with us today.
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Not all Vets flew planes. :noid
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/monongahela-1.jpg)
Some manned tankers (slow moving targets) and we left to fend for themselves a lot (hence the 10 battle stars).
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/GrandpopShadowbox.jpg)
He has never played AH2, but has watched me play many times. He also wants to know why I don't fly Hogs...
pfft..... Navy guys
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"I'd be interested in what one of these veterans thinks of AH's simulation."
You asked Delerium but I'll add my .02. I've never heard any vet who flew aircombat
or fighter/bomber planes ever say that any of these games/sims (AW, WB or AH) felt
like they were anything more than a computer program (aka a game).
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There is a lot of board talk about the flight models etc, all of course from folks that never flew these plane.
Like I said before, I will maintain their privacy and I'm not comfortable getting into a discussion in regards to the FM with 70 year old memories no matter how much I respect them.
I've had contact with quite a few veterans but one of them stands out above all the others. He was an end stage cancer patient who was a test pilot and later a combat pilot for the 'B17 Series' as he called them and was decorated beyond belief. He made it clear he was disappointed that Airwarrior (AH at the time didn't exist) was mocking what he and his boys went through. He changed his mind later when I discussed scenarios with him but never got a chance to fly in one prior to his death.
Since then, I've been firmly convinced this game should encourage exposure to history and not to get entwined within in it. My biggest exposure to what these guys went through was during the DGS scenario when the 474th P38 group had to escort bombers to a tertiary target and all the way back home again (the longest escort in AH history AFAIK). No game can ever simulate what they went through when the fear of death was ever present, I'd be a fool to believe it could recreate more than 0.5% of their emotions.
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Do you happen to remember what cpid he flew under in AW?
He flew as "Earl"
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"Fencer was kind enough to skin Earl's 39 for AH so we can fly it now ourselves"
Was just going to ask. Thanks!
How is he btw? I hope well.
I talked to him last Spring. He doesn't visit Bigweek anymore. Mrs. Earl passed a while back and he's moved to a smaller place. He sounded good though.
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Unfortunately a real WW2 pilot would not be able to give AH a fair evaluation, I think. Perhaps after spending some time with it, say 50 or so hours of flying. Simply because it takes time to get used to the computer interface. Think about it, the computer technology we take for granted and grasp easily is something very new for these guys. Anyone who have not used computers much would have a hard time to get used to the interface, regardless of whether it's World of Warcraft or Aces High, the interface is a obstacle to overcome.
So a WW2 vet would not be likely to even be able to fully weigh the simulated performance vs the real deal. Which brings us to the bottom line, AH is a game and WW2 was for real so the truth is there is no fair comparison to be made. AH is and remain a computer game. If you want to talk about specific data and performance figures I believe there is charts for that.
No disrespect intended, it's a valid question but I think you'd be disappointed to hear what a WW2 pilot had to say about AH if you think his opinion is worth so much. Fighter pilots tend to fall in love with their planes, so the things you hear from these guys are seldom objective asessments but biased opinions.
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Is he the one who won't give his real name? Or someone else?
Make me look like the horses a... we all know I am and give us some background.
I've seen too many "My dad owns a B-17" or "I received the Medal of Honor"'s to believe anything anyone says on the intardnet at first glance.
So, while you're flaming me, also offer some proof other than them saying "I was...." because I am truly interested and would be proud to actually know that they are who they claim to be.
You may commence firing.
wrongway
Hmm, seems I screwed up when editing in the 2nd part... so, here I go again...
It's a legit point you bring up, and one I took, but take this with a grain of salt. I flew with a guy back in the H2H arenas, a guy in my squad (17th Air Warriors) who went simply by "Tex." Didn't sign on much, but when he did, you had to look out. Then one day the both of us got talking, and he claimed to be David Lee "Tex" Hill. Heh, yeah right, right? A legendary fighter pilot from the 1st AVG, a member of my Aces High squad? Pshht. Well, ended up being true. As the justice system says... "It is better to let 100 guilty men walk free than from 1 innocent man to be incarcerated."
Fighter pilots tend to fall in love with their planes, so the things you hear from these guys are seldom objective asessments but biased opinions.
Which brings me to point #2... Just because they flew xxx plane IRL doesn't mean they're gonna fly xxx plane in here. Tex flew the P-40, and flew it pretty well, but he much preferred the la-5. ;)
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the vet in jg11.. is he american, german or what? just curious, i think its very cool someone like that would be playin
-Gambit :salute
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He's Canadian, eh.......... :rofl
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the vet in jg11.. [snip].... i think its very cool someone like that would be playin
I'll second that, and raise a pint to it.
ANY opportunity to meet and interact with these guys, the precious few that are still with us, should be among the highest of honours of all for any of us. They may choose to downplay their past contributions for whatever reason, but the fact remains they deserve our greatest respect.
I may be a fool for it, but as far as questioning the legitimacy of someone's statements about their past..... I'll err on the side of respecting their story. I'd rather be wrong in believing, than to be wrong by doubting and denouncing. Like has been said... I'd rather a guilty man go free than an innocent be wrongly accused.
:salute to all veterans.
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I talked to him last Spring. He doesn't visit Bigweek anymore. Mrs. Earl passed a while back and he's moved to a smaller place. He sounded good though.
I have wondered alot if he was still with us, maybe you might check in on him again? I miss Earl and his logbook.
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"I'd be interested in what one of these veterans thinks of AH's simulation."
You asked Delerium but I'll add my .02. I've never heard any vet who flew aircombat
or fighter/bomber planes ever say that any of these games/sims (AW, WB or AH) felt
like they were anything more than a computer program (aka a game).
I've heard of vets saying that flying some simulator was harder than flying the real thing before. Don't think that was referring to AHII, the HTC team, to their immense and everlasting credit, has ironed out most of the things that make other sims that way. Only to have ingrates throw it back in their face because they think if you can actually LOOK AROUND and FLY without enormous difficulty, it ain't realistic.... :rolleyes: but blah, I'm digressing here.
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They may be refering to the lack of feel flying on computer as opposed to feeling the negative and positive Gs, vibrations and such.
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They may be refering to the lack of feel flying on computer as opposed to feeling the negative and positive Gs, vibrations and such.
Feeling things is an insurmountable, at least until we all REALLY great sim pits. At least AHII lets you have your sense of sight though. :cheers:
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Earl told me once back in Airwarrior that RR compensated somewhat for that lack of feel. It still was nothing close to the real deal but it was fun for him. The FR crowd probably would have died from that comment back then :)
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FATDOG31- Navy aviator-retired. We are really proud to have him in the 31st. Was flying before breakout of WWII and taught many a pilot Carrier OPs. Started on an F3F, before F4F's were Fleet standard. Flew many different planes throughout his career and is vast fountain of knowledge. Loves to play this game, although his eyes have been giving him trouble. Talks of many of the people we hear of as legends today. He flew with a few of them.
GMC31st
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Fatdog31...
You mean the Tempest runtard in the DA who wings with another altmonkey tard Adog31st? I have chased both of them from my base to theirs after bleeding their energy as they tried to vulch.
I would surely hope not, he also types like he is about 13....
Strip
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Didnt you kill some Germans when they bombed pearl harbor?
it was the russians that bombed it and yes :noid
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it was the russians that bombed it and yes :noid
hell bipolar have here can't name all the states japan bombed during ww2 in america
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hell bipolar have here can't name all the states japan bombed during ww2 in america
Aside from the obvious Hawaii (which wasn't a state at the time), didn't a few Japanese balloon bombs actually make it to State side and do some damage? I think it was up in the Northwest.
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Yes Strip, that FATDOG31. Don't tell me you're having trouble shooting down a 90 year old half-blind man? You're kiddin me, right?
GMC31st
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Yes Strip, that FATDOG31. Don't tell me you're having trouble shooting down a 90 year old half-blind man? You're kiddin me, right?
GMC31st
He must be good...
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Aside from the obvious Hawaii (which wasn't a state at the time), didn't a few Japanese balloon bombs actually make it to State side and do some damage? I think it was up in the Northwest.
Believe it was Oregon. It killed around 6 people, a pastor's wife and 5 of their Sunday school students that were in the woods. I also believe the Japanese shelled some of the oil fields around Santa Barbara as well.
ack-ack
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dont forget Alaska even though it wasnt a state yet
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Yes Strip, that FATDOG31. Don't tell me you're having trouble shooting down a 90 year old half-blind man? You're kiddin me, right?
GMC31st
HAHAHAHAHAHA OWNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl :old: :joystick:
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Yes Strip, that FATDOG31. Don't tell me you're having trouble shooting down a 90 year old half-blind man? You're kiddin me, right?
GMC31st
On the contrary, he is easy but talks like he is leet fighter pilot and says I suck.
Mean while I am the one getting ganged and still landing high single digit kills on them.
Each to there own...
Strip
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Aside from the obvious Hawaii (which wasn't a state at the time), didn't a few Japanese balloon bombs actually make it to State side and do some damage? I think it was up in the Northwest.
Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Michigan and Iowa were the states hit.Detroit area was farthest thier bombing came, and mexico was hit. millions of acres burned but no one died to the bombing during the war. IT was against the law to report on bombs landing in america. They were afraid of chemical bombs and nerve bombs coming next if they knew how many were hitting American soil. ^ people did die from bombs in 80's. They found bomb put it in car started to drive home and it went off. A geologist in 1940s study the sand in bags for wieght and told us gov where bombs were being launched and we carpeted the island with bombs.
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Too young to be Silat, although he did fight in Thermopylae
:aok I just *knew* Silat was there. :lol
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Mean while I am the one getting ganged and still landing high single digit kills on them.
It's the DA...I would hope so
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Too young to be Silat, although he did fight in Thermopylae
:lol
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the 357th has a squaddy who was in ww2 as a gunner in a bomber ask Limbo0 if you want info or PoolFool
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Used to have a squaddie about 13 years ago that was in the Luftwaffe during the war. He was one of the youthful volunteers(conscripted). He was in his mid 60s when I knew him. He used to talk about his relatives. One of them flew Bf 109s during the BoB. And was shot down. Spent the war as a POW. Later married a Brit. Another who flew Henkels and was killed.
My father is one of the younger WW2 vets and he will be 84 this Nov 11. He went in in 1943 at the age 18. I had in addition to my father, 5 uncles who served. Only one is left and he is in his mid, late 80s. So any survivors playing the game would be quite old. I can't imagine that they would be able to do much in the game.
I would be very surprised if there were any WW2 vets that are actively playing AH.
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if this has not happened i am sure many in II/JG-27 would like to pay our respects as well ...
i know we are new here, i hope it would not be too much of an intrusion ...
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I couldn't have said it any better myself. This gentleman is truly my favorite person in AH. Always has a positive attitude. I enjoy talking to him whenever I see him online.
Stampf, I would be honored to attend this night as well. Please PM me.
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Banshee7
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"Boo"?
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Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Michigan and Iowa were the states hit.Detroit area was farthest thier bombing came, and mexico was hit. millions of acres burned but no one died to the bombing during the war. IT was against the law to report on bombs landing in america. They were afraid of chemical bombs and nerve bombs coming next if they knew how many were hitting American soil. ^ people did die from bombs in 80's. They found bomb put it in car started to drive home and it went off. A geologist in 1940s study the sand in bags for wieght and told us gov where bombs were being launched and we carpeted the island with bombs.
wow miltary channel says they died 1945 in oregon i always thought was after war i was wrong.
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yeah was a bunch of kids on a picnic iirc, didnt detonate on impact but they found it later and it blew while they were playing with it.
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Believe it was Oregon. It killed around 6 people, a pastor's wife and 5 of their Sunday school students that were in the woods.
Yup, can't forget about the incindiary dropped by a Japanese float plane attempting to ignite the forests of the area and cause panic. ;)
All in all, in Oregon, I believe there were 3 Japanese attacks...
The Fort Stevens Attack
Lookout Air Raid
and Fire Balloons.
http://www.cdsg.org/HDCRdata/stevensx.htm
http://web.oregon.com/history/hm/japanese_attack.cfm
http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avfusen.htmlyeah was a bunch of kids on a picnic iirc, didnt detonate on impact but they found it later and it blew while they were playing with it.
IIRC, they weren't designed to go off on impact, but rather on "touch" so to speak.
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if this has not happened i am sure many in II/JG-27 would like to pay our respects as well ...
i know we are new here, i hope it would not be too much of an intrusion ...
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Sorry Thor - I wasn't watching thread anymore.
Yes, for sure you and yours are welcome. I will post something up in April.
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thank you sir ...
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Well, he's claiming the history books are wrong on that. And yes, he does say "Over" on VOX.
I know EXACTLY who you are talkin about now. He changed his gameID a while back,and I'm not sure which one of the accounts that have similar names is him.