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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazaa on February 09, 2010, 11:41:37 PM
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A bloody tree ended my run.
Take away 3 kills after I died and 2 GV kills which puts me on 49 and 4/5th aces.
Take it easy, Kaz.
P.S: I'm not going to hear the end of it when Bruv sees this. 1 away from matching his Fighter Ace record of 50 aces.
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n268/Luke_831/Image1-2.png)
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only a fighter k/d of 186/0
not bad :D
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there is no way this is fun, I can just imagine the cursing as you hit that tree :D
on the other hand it may be fun for you, but I could never do this, I suk way to bad :salute
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I'm going to be honnest, it's not that much fun at all. I was about 110/0 before I even looked at my stats after last Tuesdays epic night of flying.
I just said to myself, "I'm in this far, might as well go for it".
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Here's mine: ERROR: Player BaldEagl did not fly in Late War Tour 121
I'm not sure if I'm done for the tour yet or not.
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Nobody will ever beat the Tree's k/d record: eleventy billion to 0 <and counting>
Tree, the number 1 killer in AH.
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I have been watching this and was pulling for you to break Erich Hartmann's record. Very nice run at it and I know how it feels. Colliding my 100th kill (in my 100kill jet mission)and being forced to ditch was painful. :lol It might not be fun having to fly so smart but you have to admit, the immersion factor and flying for a record gets the adrenaline going a little bit.
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Rule of thumb: if your K/D > 5 you are not really fighting.
Still, pulling 50 aces is really hard. Nice streak.
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Thing with your own score and stats is that no one actually cares other then you.
<S>...-Gixer
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Thing with your own score and stats is that no one actually cares other then you.
<S>...-Gixer
Grizz cared. :aok
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Nice work Kazaa.
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Nice record, I know how tough it is tryin to live then die on soemthing stupid xD
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:rolleyes:
All fast planes
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trees are over modeled
:aok
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:rolleyes:
All fast planes
ki-84 and the web are uber fast rides
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See that is what happens when you fly uber planes like the tempest, the trees have to show you who is boss in the LW arenas lol.
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Any dumb ars who thinks Kazaa cant fly an aircraft with a higher eny is a well a dumb ars
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Any dumb ars who thinks Kazaa cant fly an aircraft with a higher eny is a well a dumb ars
Poast of teh year! :banana:
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Any dumb ars who thinks Kazaa cant fly an aircraft with a higher eny is a well a dumb ars
So far no one has said that. But to post a brag about kills with those planes is good for a laugh.
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I was originally going to light a match about it, then decided to just say "whatever I said"
So far no one has said that. But to post a brag about kills with those planes is good for a laugh.
But you gotta see Shuffler's side. It is pretty funny. Chest thumping in a Tempy gets you no place fast.
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It's not too late to try again this tour, or is it? WTG either way. Nothing shabby here...
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Excellent!
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wtg 190 in a temp, hell thats how many times i find the tree in that bird. :rock
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The record will be set in p38 within the 2010 year.. you guys should accept that now, because it trumps anyones perk streak. :aok
Nice run Kaz.
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Kazaa is a Beast in any plane :salute
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I was originally going to light a match about it, then decided to just say "whatever I said"
But you gotta see Shuffler's side. It is pretty funny. Chest thumping in a Tempy gets you no place fast.
I didn't get the impression that he was thumping his chest.
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Just to be clear, I posted this only because I know a few people took interest in what I tried to achieve.
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Just to be clear, I posted this only because I know a few people took interest in what I tried to achieve.
What did you aim for?
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Pm'ing the Few people this image would have been the way to go. But putting it in public is a little thumpy... IMHO. (not saying it was his squaddies, just always bold squad names and people..... Plus here, it was a nice touch :cheers: )
I didn't get the impression that he was thumping his chest.
a few people
And nobody needs to tell me Kazaa is a killer....... I know first hand a couple of times <S>
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What did you aim for?
My goal was to match or pass Bruv's 50 aces without a death, which he set in FA! I was one kill away before I died! ROFL!
http://project.sveno.net/thefew/page.php?id=100&aid=65
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Actually... Yeah, what were you going for? 200?
Has that ever been done? Do we actually have a "highest K/D" stat?
And to contradict myself a bit..... I've thumped my chest about much smaller victories.
Don't listen to us man, we are all just jealous!
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You're an animal!!! :salute
My goal was 250, rofl!
I'm going to be one the Few watching next month!
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Nice run Kazaa :aok eff the naysayers, they don't mean a thing :salute :cheers:
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What is the record?
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WTG Kazaa :aok
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Rule of thumb: if your K/D > 5 you are not really fighting.
I could agree, but I also know some people that would make me disagree...
#S# Kazaa, very nice! I noticed when you had about 125 kills in fighter...then I realized you didn't have any deaths in any category. I can't do it!
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Well, I for one and relieved to see this. With a 34-kill streak, I was at #2 last night, hoping to catch #1, when I collided with a 109 and died instantly. I logged wondering how close I was to #1.
Not very close at all!
It was rough night for us all Kazaa - let's quit the camp and play scrabble on Facebook!
wtg!
Mutha Teresa
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Musketeers
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Just to be clear, I posted this only because I know a few people took interest in what I tried to achieve.
in all honesty, i think it's probably one of the hardest things to do....to land that many kills with no deaths...........
that being said, i just don't understand how one could entertain themselves doing that.
not intending to put ya down dude........
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in all honesty, i think it's probably one of the hardest things to do....to land that many kills with no deaths...........
that being said, i just don't understand how one could entertain themselves doing that.
not intending to put ya down dude........
You have to realize, Kazaa isn't your average pilot and granted, he had to fly timid for his standard, but was probably still being more aggressive than most of the people who fly this game. The guy is uber.
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in all honesty, i think it's probably one of the hardest things to do....to land that many kills with no deaths...........
that being said, i just don't understand how one could entertain themselves doing that.
not intending to put ya down dude........
Imagine doing this hobby for years and years...and getting bored starts to become a significant problem. This sort of thing can keep it interesting....for a short while. Its not getting the kills that impresses me. Kills are easy in this game.
It is the not getting killed part that is difficult. I kill myself waaaaaay more often than actually being bested by other players. To survive that long is a feat worthy of recognition in this virtual game of mega deaths.
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15.75 kills per hour took 16 hours. I'm betting he had a blast doing it.
that kill rate is way above average. I'm sure he won't be attempting it again any time soon though ;) but for 30 minutes of those 16 hours he spent nursing home a Tempest with a knocked out radiator (by one ping town ack.)
he flew back across the water and landed on the beach. giving time for his engine to cool back down, then because the field was 3.6k high and no way up the hill he proceeded to fly tree top level along the beach shutting down every couple of minutes for 1.5 sectors of beach line and then successfully landed on a 0.0k field with next to no fuel. Now with determination like that anything is possible.
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WTG Kazaa
I was killed at 67-0 this tour. An then I was rejoicing seeing some lower B-17's... "More free kills!" I was thinking. Unfortunately it was 999000 in those buffs :(
But on the other hand, it was a relief. Long kill streaks at start of a tour are making me nervous... After the first death, I can fly more relaxed :cheers:
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Imagine doing this hobby for years and years...and getting bored starts to become a significant problem. This sort of thing can keep it interesting....for a short while. Its not getting the kills that impresses me. Kills are easy in this game.
It is the not getting killed part that is difficult. I kill myself waaaaaay more often than actually being bested by other players. To survive that long is a feat worthy of recognition in this virtual game of mega deaths.
I wasn't faulting him for it.........
i mean c'mon.......what i said is coming from some dope that kept landing on enemy runways last the last couple times he flew. :rofl :rofl
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Grizz cared. :aok
I care.
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You have to realize, Kazaa isn't your average pilot and granted, he had to fly timid for his standard, but was probably still being more aggressive than most of the people who fly this game. The guy is uber.
Definitly, I was watching him buzz our feild deck level with his Tempest not afraid of a thing! Nice job Kazaa! :cheers:
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WTG Kazaa
I was killed at 67-0 this tour. An then I was rejoicing seeing some lower B-17's... "More free kills!" I was thinking. Unfortunately it was 999000 in those buffs :(
But on the other hand, it was a relief. Long kill streaks at start of a tour are making me nervous... After the first death, I can fly more relaxed :cheers:
Normally I just fly relaxed and aggressive, getting myself into all sorts of trouble which usually resorts in death. After doing this for the past year, I've been going for a more calculated approach this one. Basically trying to stay alive and being effective at the same time. It's hard to do and actually becomes a lot more immersive when you set a goal of staying alive each sortie. So far I've noticed I have much better SA when I actually force myself to care to, checking my views constantly, and even breaking off cons I would normally commit suicide to kill. It adds more of a thinking/strategy element to the game instead of just trying to pewpewpew the red guys until they inevitably gang me.
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I really and truly believe that people underestimate how good the really uber players are at this game. This is why they can only explain feats such as this with accusations of timidity, tardness, or the c-word - they don't understand that it can be done in a straightforward fashion b/c they will never, ever be good enough to achieve the same and can only explain these things from their lowly perspective.
BTW, I have the ground to say this b/c I know that I have never been and never will be a player of this caliber.
P.S. Go ahead, cry about him being in a Tempest. I don't think you could do it in a Tempest, even if you took time out from suckling on your sour grapes and found the motivation.
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You have to realize, Kazaa isn't your average pilot and granted, he had to fly timid for his standard, but was probably still being more aggressive than most of the people who fly this game. The guy is uber.
I'm sure he was fairly agressive or he would not have hit a tree..... they don't grow to 20k. :lol
A guy in MW the other night was blowin through bombers and then would run to out of sight. If anyone even looked to be within 3k of him up down or sideways he'd run to ack. Must be boring as all get out.
Sunbat, if that was in regard to what I posted, you should reread it. I said it was laughable. You might also understand that trying for a kill run will always make you timid. To what degree is the only question.
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I've run off a streak of around 200 before... it's hard. There's some luck involved, quite a bit actually. Think about it, You have to avoid the golden bb, a couple hundred HO attempts, unexpected warps, drone warps, collisions, disconnects, equipment failure(computer), kill shooter, among other things.
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Thing with your own score and stats is that no one actually cares other then you.
<S>...-Gixer
Do not presume to speak for me sir. I cared. This is very difficult to do. As Grizz said the immersion factor goes up with each added kill and my heartbeat is always high when I have a little one going.
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Do not presume to speak for me sir. I cared. This is very difficult to do. As Grizz said the immersion factor goes up with each added kill and my heartbeat is always high when I have a little one going.
:rofl
my "little" one is 4 to 6 killz :rofl the best I EVER did was 11 i think :rofl
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Sweeet Kazza....and to all you others that can do this
Man at this point in time my biggest feat is keeping my kills above deaths :lol :lol :lol :lol..... must not up at capped fields....must not up at capped fields :lol :lol :lol :lol
I have no Idea how you guys do it..I try to stay out and keep others at distance which gives me options but always end up down low and getting dirty....if I survive great but more often than not I will end up with too many to deal with or one of you guys with laser sites hits me....I really do believe gunnery has a lot to do with this though also...if I could just kill quicker....
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so when you click the one who got the credit? :D
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I have been watching this and was pulling for you to break Erich Hartmann's record. Very nice run at it and I know how it feels. Colliding my 100th kill (in my 100kill jet mission)and being forced to ditch was painful. :lol It might not be fun having to fly so smart but you have to admit, the immersion factor and flying for a record gets the adrenaline going a little bit.
Indeed it does...makes you feel like you're in the real world for a bit. If you die, you're really dead.
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Trees are over-modeled. Nice job! I usually get the same numbers each tour... only reversed. :D
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Indeed it does...makes you feel like you're in the real world for a bit. If you die, you're really dead.
LOL, I detect sarcasm.
I used the word immersion, not "I'm a RL fiter pilet", huge difference. If you're trying to survive, you have to use your brain to figure out solutions to complex problems. With the goal being staying alive AND being as efficient as possible, it becomes quite the puzzle and extremely fun. If I could be guaranteed 1v1s all day long in the MA, it wouldn't require much thought since I have fought the same 1v1s thousands of times against the best pilots the game has to offer in the DA. The moves and the timing of the moves are memorized tactics that require some creativity, but not as much as you'd think. The real fun involves thought process and asking yourself questions: How can I kill Bogie A) while avoiding Bogie B) and staying faster than bogie C) who's at high alt on the fray of icon? If bogie C) comes screaming in and bogie B) comes to join in, what is the best course of action to negate both enemies advantage and position? Is it possible to kill Bogie B) in time to avoid Bogie C) guns for a reverse on Bogie C? If I miss Bogie B) am I screwed? What's the likelihood I can take out Bogie B) on this first reversal? Things like this make the game fun for me. I don't particularly enjoy mindlessly turning on the deck without regard to my surroundings.
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LOL, I detect sarcasm.
I used the word immersion, not "I'm a RL fiter pilet", huge difference. If you're trying to survive, you have to use your brain to figure out solutions to complex problems. With the goal being staying alive AND being as efficient as possible, it becomes quite the puzzle and extremely fun. If I could be guaranteed 1v1s all day long in the MA, it wouldn't require much thought since I have fought the same 1v1s thousands of times against the best pilots the game has to offer in the DA. The moves and the timing of the moves are memorized tactics that require some creativity, but not as much as you'd think. The real fun involves thought process and asking yourself questions: How can I kill Bogie A) while avoiding Bogie B) and staying faster than bogie C) who's at high alt on the fray of icon? If bogie C) comes screaming in and bogie B) comes to join in, what is the best course of action to negate both enemies advantage and position? Is it possible to kill Bogie B) in time to avoid Bogie C) guns for a reverse on Bogie C? If I miss Bogie B) am I screwed? What's the likelihood I can take out Bogie B) on this first reversal? Things like this make the game fun for me. I don't particularly enjoy mindlessly turning on the deck without regard to my surroundings.
Well put Grizz. These are my sentiments exactly sir.
I too enjoy this type of flying. It is great to be able to keep track of a, b, c and even d sometimes. It's when the rest of the alphabet comes screaming in that makes me combine some of those letters into 4 letter sgments screamed at my computer with only me listening.
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LOL, I detect sarcasm.
I used the word immersion, not "I'm a RL fiter pilet", huge difference. If you're trying to survive, you have to use your brain to figure out solutions to complex problems. With the goal being staying alive AND being as efficient as possible, it becomes quite the puzzle and extremely fun. If I could be guaranteed 1v1s all day long in the MA, it wouldn't require much thought since I have fought the same 1v1s thousands of times against the best pilots the game has to offer in the DA. The moves and the timing of the moves are memorized tactics that require some creativity, but not as much as you'd think. The real fun involves thought process and asking yourself questions: How can I kill Bogie A) while avoiding Bogie B) and staying faster than bogie C) who's at high alt on the fray of icon? If bogie C) comes screaming in and bogie B) comes to join in, what is the best course of action to negate both enemies advantage and position? Is it possible to kill Bogie B) in time to avoid Bogie C) guns for a reverse on Bogie C? If I miss Bogie B) am I screwed? What's the likelihood I can take out Bogie B) on this first reversal? Things like this make the game fun for me. I don't particularly enjoy mindlessly turning on the deck without regard to my surroundings.
Your sarcasm detector musta had a malfunction... guess I worded it wrong. But I meant it for real...like Bubi's (I think) idea of taking days off after he died...
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I always try to survive and land back on the ground, even if I go on a high alt buff hunting run and run low on fuel I will take the time to land.
Wtg to kazaa, thats quite impressive.
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Gj Kazaa , very nice run.
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A bloody tree ended my run.
Take away 3 kills after I died and 2 GV kills which puts me on 49 and 4/5th aces.
Take it easy, Kaz.
P.S: I'm not going to hear the end of it when Bruv sees this. 1 away from matching his Fighter Ace record of 50 aces.
I was at least 4 of those. There is a thousand ways to die out there in the MA. Flak tard, puffy ack, ganged, heck a 1000yrd stray 37mm from a dweeb in a P-39 (How Grizz' 262 100 streak ended BTW). Staying alive for 250 kills in a row requires the same diciplines that pilots in the real world employed. Patience, focus, situational awareness. I've demonstrated none of those.
That is some serious dicipline
:salute Kazaa
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LOL, I detect sarcasm.
I used the word immersion, not "I'm a RL fiter pilet", huge difference. If you're trying to survive, you have to use your brain to figure out solutions to complex problems. With the goal being staying alive AND being as efficient as possible, it becomes quite the puzzle and extremely fun. If I could be guaranteed 1v1s all day long in the MA, it wouldn't require much thought since I have fought the same 1v1s thousands of times against the best pilots the game has to offer in the DA. The moves and the timing of the moves are memorized tactics that require some creativity, but not as much as you'd think. The real fun involves thought process and asking yourself questions: How can I kill Bogie A) while avoiding Bogie B) and staying faster than bogie C) who's at high alt on the fray of icon? If bogie C) comes screaming in and bogie B) comes to join in, what is the best course of action to negate both enemies advantage and position? Is it possible to kill Bogie B) in time to avoid Bogie C) guns for a reverse on Bogie C? If I miss Bogie B) am I screwed? What's the likelihood I can take out Bogie B) on this first reversal? Things like this make the game fun for me. I don't particularly enjoy mindlessly turning on the deck without regard to my surroundings.
I guess some folks just don't get it.
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LOL, I detect sarcasm.
I used the word immersion, not "I'm a RL fiter pilet", huge difference. If you're trying to survive, you have to use your brain to figure out solutions to complex problems. With the goal being staying alive AND being as efficient as possible, it becomes quite the puzzle and extremely fun. If I could be guaranteed 1v1s all day long in the MA, it wouldn't require much thought since I have fought the same 1v1s thousands of times against the best pilots the game has to offer in the DA. The moves and the timing of the moves are memorized tactics that require some creativity, but not as much as you'd think. The real fun involves thought process and asking yourself questions: How can I kill Bogie A) while avoiding Bogie B) and staying faster than bogie C) who's at high alt on the fray of icon? If bogie C) comes screaming in and bogie B) comes to join in, what is the best course of action to negate both enemies advantage and position? Is it possible to kill Bogie B) in time to avoid Bogie C) guns for a reverse on Bogie C? If I miss Bogie B) am I screwed? What's the likelihood I can take out Bogie B) on this first reversal? Things like this make the game fun for me. I don't particularly enjoy mindlessly turning on the deck without regard to my surroundings.
Answer is easy! Point the nose of your 262 downwards and run like hell in all situations :p :devil
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I don't particularly enjoy mindlessly turning on the deck without regard to my surroundings.
hey now, I like upping at almost capped fields and seeing how long I can survive struggling to defend against many cons. :banana: :banana: :airplane: :joystick:
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My goal was to match or pass Bruv's 50 aces without a death, which he set in FA! I was one kill away before I died! ROFL!
http://project.sveno.net/thefew/page.php?id=100&aid=65
It was good to see Rilak's name on that FA kill page after all these years. He was always a good stick in those russkie planes when I was over there in FA back in the late '90's.
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so when you click the one who got the credit? :D
Yeah I wanna know if it might have been due to a few hits with a Navy fighter squadron member who might have been in the area last night. The suspense of that is killing me to know who got the kill.
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Answer is easy! Point the nose of your 262 downwards and run like hell in all situations :p :devil
Lets see you do it then.
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Very Nice Kazaa,
Alot of different opinions in here but mine is that I respect that although this is a game you give 100% just like it was a real life situation. Alot of mental break down's I'm sure :D
Wtg :aok
TnDep
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Lets see you do it then.
Your humour meter not working? I'm sure Grizz knew i was joking. First off check out the very second post in this whole thread. Congratulating kazaa :cheers:
Second...ok I will rise to your bait, if you're calling me out...
'let's see you do it then'
...... like this?
262 dweebs (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/262_dweebs.ahf)
Rinse and repeat. Not many of us had the disposable hours some people have.
Still, i much prefer to take some risks and own a spit16 in a 'turn fight' while flying my jet, like this maybe:
Spitfire owned (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/262ovrsht.ahf)
That ok with you? :salute
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Great run Kazzaa!!!! Very impressive. I tried that a couple of tours ago...I suck so bad that when I got to like 30 or 40 I was looking for ways out before I really got started.
Great work....and Try again man....be cool to see ya break that recored of Bruvs. GIve him something to get after as well.
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Answer is easy! Point the nose of your 262 downwards and run like hell in all situations :p :devil
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Me262 flying requires an entirely different decision making process and the issue with that isn't so much as escaping guys on your 6 but more so escaping HOs from your 12. I'm going to assume you can handle the jet pretty well batfinkv, seeing as how you are one of the uber sticks in the game, so I'm not directing this at you.
In a jet, the goal is to 1) Avoid a HO 2) Get within 200yds for gun solution and 3) Stay above 400mph at most all times since you have a big target on your head. Problems arise because 1) and 2) blend together so much. It's not easy to get these perfect crossing shots without subjecting yourself to risk of ram or HO. You have to really have a good understanding of the geometry and relative speeds/turn rates of the aircraft you are lining shots up on. In one situation you might be able to set up a perfect kill shot on a K4 whereas the exact same situation, it's a HO/ram against a Spit16. The variables are always changing. It's also incredibly difficult to set up a non HO gun solution zipping around at 450mph. You know how easy it is for a bogey to keep going nose on with you, the key is good wingman tactics with another jet or setting up a nasty maneuver to give you a thin gun edge as he tries to dodge. It's a game of cat and mouse and incredibly too much fun. I have lost more jets than I can count over the past year due to rams, HOs, and augers trying to master this thing. You don't just hop in a jet first run and kill 10 bogeys, you have to learn how to exploit small edges, and be an expert on everything listed above. In a given jet run, it might take 20 failed passes/HO dodges to achieve 8-10 acceptable gun solutions. You have to be a master of situational awareness, angles, and gunnery to have any chance of surviving and bagging more than a few kills.
I don't expect all to understand, just thought I'd try to explain the jet in a more colorful way than the Black/White-Pick/Run mentality that a lot of people see it as.
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(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6613/soclosev.jpg)
:neener: Hehe, just kiddin' Kaz. Great run! :aok
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Wow, WTFG Kazaa.
I was impressed enough with the 14 kills (and no deaths) in Lancs...
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LMFAO wtg Kazaa HOWEVER i found this funny too
186 kills
21 assist
35 sorties
35 landed
186 kills per Death rank 1
5.31 per sortie Rank 5
13.68 per hour of flight Rank 20
14.07 kills hit percent Rank 62
25787.61 kill points Rank 9
overall rank for Fighter 3 lol sad to say someone else was able to top these stats
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Me262 flying requires an entirely different decision making process and the issue with that isn't so much as escaping guys on your 6 but more so escaping HOs from your 12. I'm going to assume you can handle the jet pretty well batfinkv, seeing as how you are one of the uber sticks in the game, so I'm not directing this at you.
In a jet, the goal is to 1) Avoid a HO 2) Get within 200yds for gun solution and 3) Stay above 400mph at most all times since you have a big target on your head. Problems arise because 1) and 2) blend together so much. It's not easy to get these perfect crossing shots without subjecting yourself to risk of ram or HO. You have to really have a good understanding of the geometry and relative speeds/turn rates of the aircraft you are lining shots up on. In one situation you might be able to set up a perfect kill shot on a K4 whereas the exact same situation, it's a HO/ram against a Spit16. The variables are always changing. It's also incredibly difficult to set up a non HO gun solution zipping around at 450mph. You know how easy it is for a bogey to keep going nose on with you, the key is good wingman tactics with another jet or setting up a nasty maneuver to give you a thin gun edge as he tries to dodge. It's a game of cat and mouse and incredibly too much fun. I have lost more jets than I can count over the past year due to rams, HOs, and augers trying to master this thing. You don't just hop in a jet first run and kill 10 bogeys, you have to learn how to exploit small edges, and be an expert on everything listed above. In a given jet run, it might take 20 failed passes/HO dodges to achieve 8-10 acceptable gun solutions. You have to be a master of situational awareness, angles, and gunnery to have any chance of surviving and bagging more than a few kills.
I don't expect all to understand, just thought I'd try to explain the jet in a more colorful way than the Black/White-Pick/Run mentality that a lot of people see it as.
nice write up, i think the hardest thing in all of this is the self control not to fly like an idiot when temptation arises. If you follow the principles you've outlined it is possible to 'never die' in a jet, barring bad luck. It definitely takes alot more skill and effort to do well in a 262 than any other plane in the eny 15-5 bracket.
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LMFAO wtg Kazaa HOWEVER i found this funny too
186 kills
21 assist
35 sorties
35 landed
186 kills per Death rank 1
5.31 per sortie Rank 5
13.68 per hour of flight Rank 20
14.07 kills hit percent Rank 62
25787.61 kill points Rank 9
overall rank for Fighter 3 lol sad to say someone else was able to top these stats
Are those Katnip's stats when he vulched his brother's account? :D
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If you follow the principles you've outlined it is possible to 'never die' in a jet, barring bad luck.
There are principles to follow that will keep you alive in any aircraft. The issue becomes balancing Risk and Efficiency.
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You're right, although some are more abstract than others. For instance, the main principle for staying alive in a P40B is leave it in the hanger and go for lunch.
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Me262 flying requires an entirely different decision making process and the issue with that isn't so much as escaping guys on your 6 but more so escaping HOs from your 12. I'm going to assume you can handle the jet pretty well batfinkv, seeing as how you are one of the uber sticks in the game, so I'm not directing this at you.
In a jet, the goal is to 1) Avoid a HO 2) Get within 200yds for gun solution and 3) Stay above 400mph at most all times since you have a big target on your head. Problems arise because 1) and 2) blend together so much. It's not easy to get these perfect crossing shots without subjecting yourself to risk of ram or HO. You have to really have a good understanding of the geometry and relative speeds/turn rates of the aircraft you are lining shots up on. In one situation you might be able to set up a perfect kill shot on a K4 whereas the exact same situation, it's a HO/ram against a Spit16. The variables are always changing. It's also incredibly difficult to set up a non HO gun solution zipping around at 450mph. You know how easy it is for a bogey to keep going nose on with you, the key is good wingman tactics with another jet or setting up a nasty maneuver to give you a thin gun edge as he tries to dodge. It's a game of cat and mouse and incredibly too much fun. I have lost more jets than I can count over the past year due to rams, HOs, and augers trying to master this thing. You don't just hop in a jet first run and kill 10 bogeys, you have to learn how to exploit small edges, and be an expert on everything listed above. In a given jet run, it might take 20 failed passes/HO dodges to achieve 8-10 acceptable gun solutions. You have to be a master of situational awareness, angles, and gunnery to have any chance of surviving and bagging more than a few kills.
I don't expect all to understand, just thought I'd try to explain the jet in a more colorful way than the Black/White-Pick/Run mentality that a lot of people see it as.
Grizz, from all the advice I've read from you, you probably take one of the most analytical approaches to improving at this game. You also articulate the relevant issues very well (at least to my imagination). I :salute you. Ever thought about being a trainer?
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Are those Katnip's stats when he vulched his brother's account? :D
:rofl
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Tree, the number 1 killer in AH.
I say AFK is. :(
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Great effort! I've tried a couple times to try to go unkilled a tour, but after the 3rd or fourth day I get so bored I blow it.
Wonder if that P40E kill was me? :)
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I'm by no means a great stick, but reading this has inspired me to try this. <S> kazaa. This seems like it would be fun. I'm going to attempt this in the 190D9 as it is my squads fighter of choice.
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Thanks for the support gents, it means a lot. :salute
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look at me I'm so good.... :huh
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do it in a Hurri2C/FM2 Zero/spit9 then I will be impressed :D
there is NO way it could be done in those type planes, the reason its even possible in 262 or the like, is the speed aspect, the ability to "get the puck outta dodge".
the 16 overshot is hilarious :rofl the guy probably went into a tantrum after his tower trip :rofl
262 dweebs (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/262_dweebs.ahf)
Rinse and repeat. Not many of us had the disposable hours some people have.
Still, i much prefer to take some risks and own a spit16 in a 'turn fight' while flying my jet, like this maybe:
Spitfire owned (http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/262ovrsht.ahf)
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look at me I'm so good.... :huh
Excellent input into the conversation here buddy, thanks for participating.
I tried to find your current score under "sirnuk3" but couldnt find you anywhere, too bad, this is kinda fun flying in this game, you should try it.
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I'm by no means a great stick, but reading this has inspired me to try this. <S> kazaa. This seems like it would be fun. I'm going to attempt this in the 190D9 as it is my squads fighter of choice.
Great, what the MA needs is more people waiting at the end of the runway for a good fight :lol
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Thanks for the support gents, it means a lot. :salute
Sure. There are some people who, by appearances below, seem to think you're coopting the site for self-aggrandizement. You might be but, even it it were true, it doesn't really matter. Why? Because this little thread, and the fact that I've had more time to fly lately (changing houses = done with the current one)) got me to thinking about why this little AH thing fascinates me so.
It was reading stories of people like Hans-Joachim Marseille or Lucky Tuck or Pete Townshend that first motivated me, well before I was even of the age to pursue Aero Eng. in college, to consider a career as a pilot. Later, after receiving a nomination to the USAFA (Rep. John Erlenborn was the chump who flakked for me), I withdrew when informed I couldn't be a pilot no matter what (allergies, nearsighted) and instead chose engineering.
That career choice landed me, eventually, in Automotive. Going back to AHII reminded me of why I set out on the path: because being able to use an airplane to kill another guy in an airplane is REALLY cool - even if (maybe especially if) it's not real.
The shameful secret: I too want to be a WWII ace... Yes, I'll cop to it. That's the pathetic little dream. Kazaa here has lived at least a less-comprehensive version of what that means.
Still, I think it means something and, if he can do it, maybe I can too - and that holds even if he's a grandiose buffoon, though I don't detect that here.
BTW, I've watched some of Grizz' tater shots. I'm left baffled at the quality of the gunnery since I feel it's gunnery that cripples my use of the D9.
I'm flying tonight, though, that's for sure. IF I could kill that mofo Kazaa, I'd be really proud of myself. :cool:
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Excellent input into the conversation here buddy, thanks for participating.
I tried to find your current score under "sirnuk3" but couldnt find you anywhere, too bad, this is kinda fun flying in this game, you should try it.
sorry but I have to speak up for Nuk3 here, Maybe check the Red Storm logs for 9GIAP instead of just the MA stats, he's a class act.
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sorry but I have to speak up for Nuk3 here, Maybe check the Red Storm logs for 9GIAP instead of just the MA stats, he's a class act.
Thank you phatzo <S>
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:salute Kazaa, wtg!
HTC should award a "Streak of the Month".
Cheers,
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Do not presume to speak for me sir. I cared. This is very difficult to do.
I might not speak for you now, but give it time. There is nothing difficult about scoring and stats once you know how to game the game and have the patience and hours to spend doing it.
No one cares about your own score other then yourself is absolutely true. That's why they need to post on here (or get squaddie to do it) to find the attention they're after for what ever their latest accomplishment might be.
If anyone wants to go out and set a high K/D target for the tour or what ever the target might be, then good for them and good luck.
Is it worth a "look at me" post, probably not. But it's just another way of playing the forums.
<S>...-Gixer
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do it in a Hurri2C/FM2 Zero/spit9 then I will be impressed :D
there is NO way it could be done in those type planes, the reason its even possible in 262 or the like, is the speed aspect, the ability to "get the puck outta dodge".
A few years back, I hit 100 kills with 0 deaths in a P-38J and there aren't that many planes it can out run when things turn dicey.
ack-ack
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I'm getting a feel for this now. Next month I am going to streak in a jeep.
It may be in your town.
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A few years back, I hit 100 kills with 0 deaths in a P-38J and there aren't that many planes it can out run when things turn dicey.
ack-ack
that's why you used it in it's envelope, I am sure.
That plane in the right hands is extremely deadly, and if anyone who does not know that, and takes it lightly because they are in a spit or whatever, will find themselves in the tower screaming cheater, :lol
I take them very serious, unless I have a major advantage over the nme cons, the 38 is the one I try to kill first, me personally I cant fly it, and don't like to fly it, but I am impressed by those that do.
I know you are very good in it, although the one time I was against you in it(that I remember) there were way too many nme to get a good 1vs1 going, I have no doubt you would be extremely hard to kill in that 38.
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I'm getting a feel for this now. Next month I am going to streak in a jeep.
Hope it is warmer wherever you "streak" then it is here... You'd freeze your giblets off streaking through my town right now.
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I might not speak for you now, but give it time. There is nothing difficult about scoring and stats once you know how to game the game and have the patience and hours to spend doing it.
No one cares about your own score other then yourself is absolutely true. That's why they need to post on here (or get squaddie to do it) to find the attention they're after for what ever their latest accomplishment might be.
If anyone wants to go out and set a high K/D target for the tour or what ever the target might be, then good for them and good luck.
Is it worth a "look at me" post, probably not. But it's just another way of playing the forums.
<S>...-Gixer
+1 Gixer and Zoney Sirnuk3 is a great pilot and a good guy
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I might not speak for you now, but give it time. There is nothing difficult about scoring and stats once you know how to game the game and have the patience and hours to spend doing it.
No one cares about your own score other then yourself is absolutely true. That's why they need to post on here (or get squaddie to do it) to find the attention they're after for what ever their latest accomplishment might be.
If anyone wants to go out and set a high K/D target for the tour or what ever the target might be, then good for them and good luck.
Is it worth a "look at me" post, probably not. But it's just another way of playing the forums.
<S>...-Gixer
Most people who type this tripe merely do so to cover for their own envy or inability to perform the task. Kilo put a +1... he couldn't do it either.
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There is nothing difficult about scoring and stats once you know how to game the game and have the patience and hours to spend doing it.
<S>...-Gixer
Yeah...
Uh, Can you tell me how, please? I could use the help.
I was happy to spend about an hour and get 6/3 kills/assists tonight and to actually land 4 of 'em (wow!)... and I only died twice and bailed once. Man, I felt like King Sh*t. That was better than usual for me.
Does this, then, father, make me a punk-a** bee-atch (pab)?
Probably. I'm happy at any k/d better than 1 right now.
You come across as a little bitter. I mean, this is for fun, these guys are your virtual mates and share a common interest The forum's about edutainment. Of course somebody's going to post up something like this. It's coin of the realm. Why p*ss in the cornflakes?
One point you make on which I conditionally agree: nobody really cares about another guy's score - unless it's really noteworthy.
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Most people who type this tripe merely do so to cover for their own envy or inability to perform the task. Kilo put a +1... he couldn't do it either.
You are right Steve I couldn't do it. But if by some miracle I did I wouldn't post it on BB, because I think its bad form. Everyone knows who the top sticks are without them posting in a backslapping thread.
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You are right Steve I couldn't do it. But if by some miracle I did I wouldn't post it on BB, because I think its bad form. Everyone knows who the top sticks are without them posting in a backslapping thread.
I'm glad Kazaa did. I was going to post a thread if/when the streak ended or if he broke a record.
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Most people who type this tripe merely do so to cover for their own envy or inability to perform the task. Kilo put a +1... he couldn't do it either.
All your years and posts that's the best hook you can bait? Save the 200 style taunts for the newbies Steve.
<S>...-Gixer
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an impressive streak would be one done entirely on your own without the support of squadies,which we all know 90% of top "sticks" cant pick their own noses without a gaggle of helpers.
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an impressive streak would be one done entirely on your own without the support of squadies,which we all know 90% of top "sticks" cant pick their own noses without a gaggle of helpers.
Name names.
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Name names.
You for one you ding dong...:D
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You are right Steve I couldn't do it. But if by some miracle I did I wouldn't post it on BB, because I think its bad form.
I agree with you, actually. 100%. I wouldn't have posted it on the main bbs either, for the reason you mentioned.
:salute
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All your years and posts that's the best hook you can bait? Save the 200 style taunts for the newbies Steve.
<S>...-Gixer
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Good to see ya, Gix. :salute
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You for one you ding dong...:D
I don't have a gaggle!!
It's more of an "entourage". :noid
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an impressive streak would be one done entirely on your own without the support of squadies,which we all know 90% of top "sticks" cant pick their own noses without a gaggle of helpers.
Hmmm. I ran one off once without my squad even knowing. I told them when I was done.
Then again, I'm really good at picking my own nose. :D
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an impressive streak would be one done entirely on your own without the support of squadies,which we all know 90% of top "sticks" cant pick their own noses without a gaggle of helpers.
Funny how at least 180 of the kills I did was while everyone from The Few squadron was a bed, I had to play during the morning just to find enough people to kill. Europe peak time pales in comparison to US peak time.
One thing's for sure. I sure wouldn't have been forced into a tree that morning, if I had single wingman who didn't take 3 attempts to shoot a perfectly still target.
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I don't doubt they can fight on their own. Flying with a wingman is more difficult for me you have to have Patience and be able to coordinate not as easy as it seems.
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I agree with you, actually. 100% I wouldn't have posted it on the main bbs either, for the reaosn you mentioned.
:salute
Steve, didn't you post some sort of similar thread a while pack? I can't remember. The main reason why I posted up my score to begin with was not for boasting, but to have a good laugh that I was only 1 kill away from my goal before I died, I think TonyJoey was the only person who noticed it.
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Steve, didn't you post some sort of similar thread a while pack? I'm sure it was something to do with a 100 kill streak you posted in general, picture included?
The main reason I posted up my score to begin with was not for boasting, but to have a good laugh that I was only 1 kill away from my goal before I died, I think TonyJoey was the only person who noticed it.
Kaz, I didn't mean to sound like I'm judging your choice, sorry. I know you so I didn't give a thought that you might be boasting. A stranger might, though.
Besides, who was it that said "It ain't bragging if you can back it up"?
I talked about a kill streak a while back, I think, but the thread turned to talk of fishing, which is much more interesting to me. :aok
IMHO any streak I've personally been on can be attributed to a string of good luck for dodging the numerous pitfalls I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, rather than any measure of skill.
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I can'tfly with wingmen. They "get in the way." lol I've seen Kazaa fly, and I can almost guarantee he didnt need someone bailing him out
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Besides, who was it that said "It ain't bragging if you can back it up"?
Jerome Dean
but then, he also said...
"I never keep a scorecard or the batting averages. I hate statistics. What I got to know, I keep in my head."
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Yeah I wanna know if it might have been due to a few hits with a Navy fighter squadron member who might have been in the area last night. The suspense of that is killing me to know who got the kill.
F4U-Tree
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Bonesaw got credit; However, a Spitfire Mk.XVI, P38-L and a tree shared the victory with him. :D
If I ever meet Bonesaw, I'll be buying him a beer for sure.
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an impressive streak would be one done entirely on your own without the support of squadies,which we all know 90% of top "sticks" cant pick their own noses without a gaggle of helpers.
What's the point of flying by yourself if you have friends on? That's not very fun. That's like drinking in the corner of the bar when your buddies are picking up all the chicks.
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:D
Good to see ya, Gix. :salute
:aok
Yes been a while since I've done any fishing. :salute
<S>...-Gixer
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I think a lot of people fly with wingies because they have friends. What's the point of flying by yourself if you have friends on? That's not very fun. That's like drinking in the corner of the bar when your buddies are picking up all the chicks.
You couldnt be more mistaken, fly a cool ride solo and you'll get all the hot chicks. Leave your mates to fight over the throw backs with the rest of the gangers.
<S>...-Gixer
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You couldnt be more mistaken, fly a cool ride solo and you'll get all the hot chicks. Leave your mates to fight over the throw backs with the rest of the gangers.
I fly solo all the time especially if my friends aren't logged on. If they are I'll wing up, it's more fun that way. Simple enough. :)
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You couldnt be more mistaken, fly a cool ride solo and you'll get all the hot chicks. Leave your mates to fight over the throw backs with the rest of the gangers.
<S>...-Gixer
Now THAT'S funny.
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Bonesaw got credit; However, a Spitfire Mk.XVI, P38-L and a tree shared the victory with him. :D
If I ever meet Bonesaw, I'll be buying him a beer for sure.
<S>
I'll buy him a beer the next time I am in Texas and then if you can make it to Munich, Germany during the late part of April I will let you buy me at least one to repay him. <S>!
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I call bs 18 hrs of flight 250+ kills ? lol
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I call bs 18 hrs of flight 250+ kills ? lol
And what exactly makes that "bs" ?
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cant even find 15 people per hour myself am i different?
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Kaz was up in US peak times that has a big part to play. Possible to rack up 10 kills in 15 mins quite easily in a big furball, anti-horde or vulch fest.
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I just dont buy it lol :salute
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I've been arguing with 8313jbx (my brother) for an hour now offline, he has no argument, other than "it's impossible".. and it's getting tedious trying to point out the failure of his lack of logic..
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cant even find 15 people per hour myself am i different?
Look for huge furballs/battles at US primetime. When there are constantly 15+ players involved per side, it's possible for a good player to get very high k/h.
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pretty much i have been able to get 10 kill runs the last few days as long as my side had total contorl of the sector, so it's possible. 3 of them only took 5 mins and it was back home i went.
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One of things I miss most from WB is the kill streak stats - should be easy to implement i'm sure
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so 249 for 0 is now the official longest kill streak in Aces High on record
I might have a go at it one day.
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so 249 for 0 is now the official longest kill streak in Aces High on record
Nope.
I've seen one higher. One day a long time ago I saw one of the muppets fighter score was over 300 for zero, can't remember the exact score but was way over 300. I think it was Fester.
Sorry I'm a bit vague, but it was a long time ago and it wasn't a big deal.
Perhaps whoever it was will pop in and claim the record?
Gunzo
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Question:
Does anyone have proof on who holds the record of most kills without a single death in all the disciplines?
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cant even find 15 people per hour myself am i different?
I take it that you don't fly into the biggest red dar bar on a Tuesday? There's way more then 15 players in a single sector.
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I could be wrong here, but I thought fishu (think it was him anyway) had the largest streak going.
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LOL, I detect sarcasm.
I used the word immersion, not "I'm a RL fiter pilet", huge difference. If you're trying to survive, you have to use your brain to figure out solutions to complex problems. With the goal being staying alive AND being as efficient as possible, it becomes quite the puzzle and extremely fun. If I could be guaranteed 1v1s all day long in the MA, it wouldn't require much thought since I have fought the same 1v1s thousands of times against the best pilots the game has to offer in the DA. The moves and the timing of the moves are memorized tactics that require some creativity, but not as much as you'd think. The real fun involves thought process and asking yourself questions: How can I kill Bogie A) while avoiding Bogie B) and staying faster than bogie C) who's at high alt on the fray of icon? If bogie C) comes screaming in and bogie B) comes to join in, what is the best course of action to negate both enemies advantage and position? Is it possible to kill Bogie B) in time to avoid Bogie C) guns for a reverse on Bogie C? If I miss Bogie B) am I screwed? What's the likelihood I can take out Bogie B) on this first reversal? Things like this make the game fun for me. I don't particularly enjoy mindlessly turning on the deck without regard to my surroundings.
See now this part I usually have no problem with when I put my mind to it.
What I would really like to know. All joking aside is how you manage to aim as well as you do?
I've been one pinged by you on shots that your average to above average pilot misses 90% of the time.
Im not going to claim to be a super uber pilot. But I can hang with most. And where I lack most in is my aiming and in taking advantage of the shots that I have when i have them. Be cause with some of the best pilots I know you dont often get a second chance and it comes down to who makes the most of their targeting opportunity first.
so whats the secret to learning better gunnery?
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See now this part I usually have no problem with when I put my mind to it.
What I would really like to know. All joking aside is how you manage to aim as well as you do?
I've been one pinged by you on shots that your average to above average pilot misses 90% of the time.
Im not going to claim to be a super uber pilot. But I can hang with most. And where I lack most in is my aiming and in taking advantage of the shots that I have when i have them. Be cause with some of the best pilots I know you dont often get a second chance and it comes down to who makes the most of their targeting opportunity first.
so whats the secret to learning better gunnery?
I got the same problem Dred no telling how many times I've died but I had my shot to kill them.
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See now this part I usually have no problem with when I put my mind to it.
What I would really like to know. All joking aside is how you manage to aim as well as you do?
I've been one pinged by you on shots that your average to above average pilot misses 90% of the time.
Im not going to claim to be a super uber pilot. But I can hang with most. And where I lack most in is my aiming and in taking advantage of the shots that I have when i have them. Be cause with some of the best pilots I know you dont often get a second chance and it comes down to who makes the most of their targeting opportunity first.
so whats the secret to learning better gunnery?
Dred, what you refer to is this kill.
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Grizz/dredjet.ahf
As you will see, you gave me a much better shot than you thought you did. By the time I was finished firing you were <200yds. If there is a secret to better gunnery, especially in tater planes, it's setting your lead very early, aligning yourself so your bogey is flying through your cockpit view left to right or right to left, lining it up early, and firing early.
In the 262, I have different convergences for each of my guns so my taters are covering a larger surface area and increasing the chance of a connection. Once I was reasonably lined up and firing a stream of taters out in front of you, it was unlikely you'd be able to fly through them untouched.
Another point I should touch on when watching tater films. The lead you see in these films is misleading(pun :)). You actually have to lead more in flight because you have to account for Response Times. The time it takes for your brain to say Fire and for your finger to actually pull the trigger will account for an additional need to fire earlier.
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Its bs shade killers :bolt:
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Its bs shade killers :bolt:
No. Take a look at Kazaa's tempest kills for this tour.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsin.php?playername=Kazaa&kcnt=190&selectTour=LWTour121&pindex=38
The guy he killed the most of his tempest kills was breeze65 at 9 times. The rest of the player base that came in contact with him contributed to his kills tally with one or two deaths. Are you saying the entire player base is his shade?
Obviously, this is stupid to even address but this is actual evidence for you, 8313jbx, so when pilots accomplish feats in the future that you can't wrap your adolescent brain around, you won't open your mouth. :aok
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ok :joystick:
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Its bs shade killers :bolt:
Would you like to join the Hot Soup Mafia? We're holding onto the title of Beef Stewpid for someone special.
Kazaa is legit, deal with it.
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Would you like to join the Hot Soup Mafia? We're holding onto the title of Beef Stewpid for someone special.
LOL.
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:cheers:
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Ummm, I can't even get my head around this accomplishment. I've been on for a year and still don't understand what Dodger did to me 4 times in a row last night, much less 249 kills and no deaths. I'm not even sure that an F-18E Superhornet could rack up 250 kills in this game with no deaths!! ....I mean really...the guy still has to ENGAGE and land and everyone who has ever been in the Ordinance business knows those AAMRAMs are unstable during takeoff!! lmao.
Lotta time left Kazaa....go for it bro. :salute
V/r
Changeup
PS-How about shade "BBS Posters"? ROTFLMAO
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:cheers:
like we discussed last nite, I refer you to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
"it's impossible" is not a valid argument..
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like we discussed last nite, I refer you to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
"it's impossible" is not a valid argument..
get him to DA Kazza I'm sure he will show him it is possible to get more in 1 hr :lol :lol :lol :lol
On a side note..I fly euro hours....down to 80 players on at times and if my gunnery was good enough I could easily rack up that many kills.....find the big red dar bar...not the green....as it happens my gunnery is shocking so I die 15 times in an hour.....quite often to the same person
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Dred, what you refer to is this kill.
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Grizz/dredjet.ahf
As you will see, you gave me a much better shot than you thought you did. By the time I was finished firing you were <200yds. If there is a secret to better gunnery, especially in tater planes, it's setting your lead very early, aligning yourself so your bogey is flying through your cockpit view left to right or right to left, lining it up early, and firing early.
In the 262, I have different convergences for each of my guns so my taters are covering a larger surface area and increasing the chance of a connection. Once I was reasonably lined up and firing a stream of taters out in front of you, it was unlikely you'd be able to fly through them untouched.
Another point I should touch on when watching tater films. The lead you see in these films is misleading(pun :)). You actually have to lead more in flight because you have to account for Response Times. The time it takes for your brain to say Fire and for your finger to actually pull the trigger will account for an additional need to fire earlier.
I havent viewed the file but Im assuming its the kill you got on me when I was in a 262. Later after I thought about it for a while I realized what happened
Im not only talking about that flight. You've kiled me other times where I'm scratching my head wondering how the hell you pulled that shot off.
Kappa too though to a slightly lessor extent.
Sometimes its the positioning of the shot at on my end looks like odd angles, And sometimes the with a move I make. the amount of time you have to decide where Im going,aim, and then take the shot accurately is so miniscule that as I mentioned over 90% of players dont make that shot.
I do that intentionally sometimes to gain position. that is, give a very brief shot on me sacrificing a bit of danger to gain a position of advantage. Your anticipation though is astounding
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Oh yeah? Well, once in DA, I almost killed Kazaa when he had just returned form a hiatus and was only 3 times better than me. So there.
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Its bs shade killers :bolt:
It's O.K, come give me a hug. :aok
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I could be wrong here, but I thought fishu (think it was him anyway) had the largest streak going.
I heard this also but wasn't it in AH1 ? or some sort of beta.
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Dred, what you refer to is this kill.
http://dasmuppets.com/public/Grizz/dredjet.ahf
In the 262, I have different convergences for each of my guns so my taters are covering a larger surface area and increasing the chance of a connection. Once I was reasonably lined up and firing a stream of taters out in front of you, it was unlikely you'd be able to fly through them untouched.
Grizz.
All my guns have the same convergence. Thanks to Bruv, I also fire just 2 at a time which I find to be much more efficient.
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now it would be intresting to have a kill streak score and a high score database!
A High score Table with a kill streak number
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Look for huge furballs/battles at US primetime. When there are constantly 15+ players involved per side, it's possible for a good player to get very high k/h.
Indeed. I was flying this w/e on an island that was the site of a perpetual furball, albeit a small one. I well recall, one sortie, lining up on about 5 or 6 different bogies over the course of about 5-10 minutes. I probably fired on all of 'em but only got an assist or two for my trouble.
Why? Because every time I fired, it seemed like there was a stream of tracers hosing the bogey down. Only problem: that stream was coming from Lute - who always seemed to be a half step ahead of me.
That guy was routinely landing 6-9 kills over spans I estimate to be as short as 10 minutes.
I have little doubt of the claims posted thus far. Stuff happens fast out there. Good stuff happens fast for the accurate.
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You can find way more than 15 in a sector a lot of the time. That kill ratio is not unfounded.
The bottom line is some folks are interested in trying for kill records and most are not.
Whatever toots your whistle.
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I havent viewed the file but Im assuming its the kill you got on me when I was in a 262. Later after I thought about it for a while I realized what happened
Im not only talking about that flight. You've kiled me other times where I'm scratching my head wondering how the hell you pulled that shot off.
Kappa too though to a slightly lessor extent.
Sometimes its the positioning of the shot at on my end looks like odd angles, And sometimes the with a move I make. the amount of time you have to decide where Im going,aim, and then take the shot accurately is so miniscule that as I mentioned over 90% of players dont make that shot.
I do that intentionally sometimes to gain position. that is, give a very brief shot on me sacrificing a bit of danger to gain a position of advantage. Your anticipation though is astounding
I know what you mean. I've been killed on snap shots where I scratch my head. High speed bandit is closing on my six. When the bandit is about 800yrds, I pull a hard right (or left) hand turn at just about the black out limit. I even rudder up or down about a fifth of the way into the turn to change my vector. I figure the bandit will have to pull so much lead, I'm below his nose and out of sight, and since he's faster, he would have to black out to follow, especially if he pulls enough lead for a shot. This strategy should aslo maximize the amount of lead required to make the shot. Since the bandit would have to correct the direction of his attack after the initial turn (because of my pre-stated rudder use) he would have to do so on a target he couldn't see. It would seem luck would be the only reason for that shot being made, so I'm always scratching my head as I'm spiralling to my death. I never make that shot.
My guess is that Kazaa and Grizz have mastered that shot. I can't imagine that 250 pilots didn't see you coming.
So my question to Grizz and Kazaa is: how often do you make that shot? and are there any tips for making it?
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Nice score Kazzaa :rock
Vinkman, i shot your f4u dwn yesterday in 109K.( You were with Nik and p51d.) While you think you made me correct my flypath doing high g manouver, you are wrong. I just rolled a bit and let nose go a bit under horizont and cut inside your hard turn. Fired 3 rounds and saw 1 30mm hit. Sorry i was bz when you called priv and had to log after landing.
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If I may Vinkman....Skyrock once told me ..I knew where you would be and that was where I was flying to......it isn't so much as them making a particular shot it is more they know where you will be....too many of us are predictable in our style and these guys take advantage of it...changing plane during a turn has been the answer for me in these types of situations (obviously doesn't always work)....and also trying to do things a little differently....the smallest adjustment to what you normally do is quite often all it takes.....on the other side of it these guys have the zen thing almost mastered when it comes to gunnery so 8/10 when you see them fire it is going to hurt...
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Vinkmen,
It's very easy for me to make a snap shot at a target under the circumstances you stated above. I will lag pursuit the bandit and rapidly, but briefly, pull lead for the shot before returning back to lag pursuit.
(http://www.simhq.com/_air/images/air_038a_4.gif)
Turning flat at D800 to avoid the shot isn't a good idea, especially with rudder input! You're just opening up the profile of your plane and slowing yourself down with that giant WW2 airbrake. You should try to turn much sooner (1.5K), never give the bandit your 6, period! When you do turn, I would suggest beaming the target with your side profile to create as little profile just before he takes the shot. You would be surprised how many players have trouble shooting a side profile target alone, add vertical input (up or down) and you will make it extremely hard for the enemy to wax you.
Here are a few films showing the above, please note the vertical seperation, it's key to performing a quick reversal.
http://rapidshare.com/files/351026067/1olo_kill.ahf.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/351026873/Yak9u_Kill.ahf
Download them asap, they get deleted after a short while.
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Vinkmen,
It's very easy for me to make a snap shot at a target under the circumstances you stated above. I will lag pursuit the bandit and rapidly, but briefly, pull lead for the shot before returning back to lag pursuit.
(http://www.simhq.com/_air/images/air_038a_4.gif)
Turning horizontally at D800/flat isn't a good idea, especially with rudder input! You're just opening up the profile of your plane and slowing yourself down with that giant WW2 airbrake. You should try to turn much sooner (1.5K), never give the bandit your 6, period! When you do turn, I would suggest beaming the target to create minimal profile just before he takes the shot. You would be surprised how many players have trouble shooting a side profile target alone, add vertical input (up or down) and you will make it extremely hard for the enemy to wax you.
Here are a few films showing the above, please not the vertical seperation, it's key to performing a quick reversal.
http://rapidshare.com/files/351026067/1olo_kill.ahf.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/351026873/Yak9u_Kill.ahf
Download them asap, they get deleted after a short while.
Beaming... interesting... I found that apparently sefl-contradictory because you first say that flat-turning opens his profile. It's sounds almost like it beams him, if I take beam in the nautical sense of looking at his side profile.
The rest clearly illustrates why you'e an unobtainium member and I'm a copper member. Like I said in another post, I seemed to unintentionally perform as Lute's mildly retarded shadow for a short time this w/e and it is truly amazing how devastating these little differences can be.
I found the idea of maintaining lag for all but a brief snapshot intriguing, given that I like to fly the D-9 a lot. The danger of that a/c is always the same: you can use superior energy to bear down on that low Spit. You can even use some vertical/roll and turn to stay with him until you kill him (if you're a lousy snap). The tricky question is what to do after he's gone and you're low and slow with another Spit nearby. The answer is probably to lag pursue him and maintain energy until you get a clean snap, then bug out for a bit, reverse at a distance, and repeat. I know this on an intuitive level but it can be hard to take yourself off a target.
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Godzilla,
I've always regarded the term "beam" as travelling horizontal across the bandit with a side profile.
You should allow yourself enough time to turn into the target before "beaming" with a side profiel.
What I understood from Vinkmem's post, he would try to avoid the shot with a flat turn, the enemy sees a large top view profile.
I hope this clear things up.
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Vinkmen,
It's very easy for me to make a snap shot at a target under the circumstances you stated above. I will lag pursuit the bandit and rapidly, but briefly, pull lead for the shot before returning back to lag pursuit.
(http://www.simhq.com/_air/images/air_038a_4.gif)
Turning flat at D800 to avoid the shot isn't a good idea, especially with rudder input! You're just opening up the profile of your plane and slowing yourself down with that giant WW2 airbrake. You should try to turn much sooner (1.5K), never give the bandit your 6, period! When you do turn, I would suggest beaming the target with your side profile to create as little profile just before he takes the shot. You would be surprised how many players have trouble shooting a side profile target alone, add vertical input (up or down) and you will make it extremely hard for the enemy to wax you.
Here are a few films showing the above, please note the vertical seperation, it's key to performing a quick reversal.
http://rapidshare.com/files/351026067/1olo_kill.ahf.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/351026873/Yak9u_Kill.ahf
Download them asap, they get deleted after a short while.
I disagree with this, (the bolded part) YOU most certianly can give the bandit your 6, sometimes that is the only way to get them to engage.
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True, true.
I should have said "when engaged, never give the bandit you're 6". Perfectly acceptable to do otherwise when extending and luring.
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Vinkmen,
It's very easy for me to make a snap shot at a target under the circumstances you stated above. I will lag pursuit the bandit and rapidly, but briefly, pull lead for the shot before returning back to lag pursuit.
Turning flat at D800 to avoid the shot isn't a good idea, especially with rudder input! You're just opening up the profile of your plane and slowing yourself down with that giant WW2 airbrake. You should try to turn much sooner (1.5K), never give the bandit your 6, period! When you do turn, I would suggest beaming the target with your side profile to create as little profile just before he takes the shot. You would be surprised how many players have trouble shooting a side profile target alone, add vertical input (up or down) and you will make it extremely hard for the enemy to wax you.
Here are a few films showing the above, please note the vertical seperation, it's key to performing a quick reversal.
http://rapidshare.com/files/351026067/1olo_kill.ahf.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/351026873/Yak9u_Kill.ahf
Download them asap, they get deleted after a short while.
Re-reading my post I wasn't clear. I olny draw the bandit in to 800 before turning when I've already let him inside of 1500 on my six because I'm distracted, or didn't see him etc. It's the desperation move. But either way I will watch the films when I get home and try to learn something. Thanks for taking the time to post them.
I realize that the flat turn presents a much larget surface area to hit, but my recollection is that 9 out of ten times, I'm getting elevators/rudder/vert-stabilizer shot off. Seems like they are barely cathcing the tail of my airplane with a few rounds. Mostly seems like canon planes, like 109, Typh, Nik, p-38. I do it because when I'm trying to BnZ someone, and they break hard I always miss. The ones the try to roll, barrel roll, or go up, I kill pretty easy.
I need a holw in the floor so I can see the bandit during the deflection shot. ;)
Kazaa, do you ever shoot at a bandit lost out of view below the nose? or are you firing where you anticipate he's turning too, while you can still see him?
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Seems like you're flying or shot is letting you down some-what.
A Split S is always a good move to do. You can't turn offensive with it against a BnZer, but it's a lot harder for him to hit you. :D
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Seems like you're flying or shot is letting you down some-what.
A Split S is always a good move to do. You can't turn offensive with it against a BnZer, but it's a lot harder for him to hit you. :D
if you are ever up for it, and feel like dueling, I would like to go a few rounds with ya, peeps keep saying you are "uber" :D
I want to find out for myself, I can pretty much say you will win ( cuz I cant hit a barn if I am INSIDE the friggin thing) I just want to test my self against the one many say is "uberist" for some reason I have a feeling they will be damn good fights.
Have we ever even fought yet? I cant recall.
INKTrue, true.
I should have said "when engaged, never give the bandit you're 6". Perfectly acceptable to do otherwise when extending and luring.
I will give a con I am engaged with my 6, if I see he is playing the E game.
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Vinkman I'm not real good at articulating these things but I'll give it a try. If I'm closing on your 6 and you wait until I'm 400 back and pull into a hard turn that I know I can't match I will pull into you as hard as I can and fire while you're under my nose. It's a bit of a crap shoot but you know the guy is there and it's just a matter of getting your timing down and a bit of luck.
If you break earlier I will start reacting the instant I see you rolling out, I will roll the same direction but not to the same degree you do and rather than pull flat and put you under my nose I will go into a very shallow dive allowing me to keep vis on you then at the last moment use roll to adjust as needed back into you and pull up giving me a crossing shot. It's like what tongs was saying, It's a simple matter of anticipating where the target will be and setting yourself up with a trajectory that will intercept it.
Grizz has a thread in the Training forum with tips on aiming the 30mm, check it out you might find some useful info in there.
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Grizz.
All my guns have the same convergence. Thanks to Bruv, I also fire just 2 at a time which I find to be much more efficient.
Yep, you're right that's the best way to do it. <Tucks jet secretz into back pocket> :D
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Yep, you're right that's the best way to do it. <Tucks jet secretz into back pocket> :D
LOL I setup my guns the same way you go Grizz.
I have played with 2 diff. converg. settings.
Mind telling me what yours are?
(here or P.M.)
Thanks!
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I know what you mean. I've been killed on snap shots where I scratch my head. High speed bandit is closing on my six. When the bandit is about 800yrds, I pull a hard right (or left) hand turn at just about the black out limit.
This is what everybody does and is the easiest jet shot to connect on. If we ever meet, I'll draw up little airplane picture diagramz on a napkin to show you.
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if you are ever up for it, and feel like dueling, I would like to go a few rounds with ya, peeps keep saying you are "uber" :D
I want to find out for myself, I can pretty much say you will win ( cuz I cant hit a barn if I am INSIDE the friggin thing) I just want to test my self against the one many say is "uberist" for some reason I have a feeling they will be damn good fights.
Have we ever even fought yet? I cant recall.
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I will give a con I am engaged with my 6, if I see he is playing the E game.
I'll be on hiatus 'till the next release. Maybe we can set something up when I'm more active.
I'm sure Grizz can teach you everything I could and more 'till then.
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Grizz, I've increased my lead which has helped considerably. Now if I could just figure out how to not shoot too high/low in relation to my lead or in fine tuning my aircraft to get the nose in just the right spot.
Thats also where you seem to excel in. Not just the lead but in the plane (not aircraft but direction) in which you fire.
Rudder and roll often isnt enough.Throttlework helps. How much fine tuning do you do with the trim when lining up on an opponent? Or dont you mess with trim when your about to fire? (I currently dont play witht the trim while engaged)
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Grizz, I've increased my lead which has helped considerably. Now if I could just figure out how to not shoot too high/low in relation to my lead or in fine tuning my aircraft to get the nose in just the right spot.
Thats also where you seem to excel in. Not just the lead but in the plane (not aircraft but direction) in which you fire.
Rudder and roll often isnt enough.Throttlework helps. How much fine tuning do you do with the trim when lining up on an opponent? Or dont you mess with trim when your about to fire? (I currently dont play witht the trim while engaged)
No reason to touch trim. Over lead to give yourself an extra second or two to line it up, then fire.
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I'll be on hiatus 'till the next release. Maybe we can set something up when I'm more active.
I'm sure Grizz can teach you everything I could and more 'till then.
I guess you miss understood what I typed.....Not looking for "instruction" :D
looking for someone to put up a good fight, and I just want to see how "uber" you are.
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Perhaps that is his way of saying he is scared of you sir............. :confused:
I guess you miss understood what I typed.....Not looking for "instruction" :D
looking for someone to put up a good fight, and I just want to see how "uber" you are.
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Seems like you're flying or shot is letting you down some-what.
A Split S is always a good move to do. You can't turn offensive with it against a BnZer, but it's a lot harder for him to hit you. :D
Kazaa I've been trying to down load those film files but it keeps telling me the 'servers are too busy now, come back later' OR join up for 7 quid. So I haven't watched them yet. I'll keep trying. :salute
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I've put them up on another site.
http://www.4shared.com/file/224112425/5519a7b7/Yak9u_Kill.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/224112183/405e28e3/1olo_kill.html
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I've put them up on another site.
http://www.4shared.com/file/224112425/5519a7b7/Yak9u_Kill.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/224112183/405e28e3/1olo_kill.html
Got 'em. Thanks Kazaa :salute