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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: TinmanX on June 18, 2010, 02:01:43 PM
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I think we've found the first corrupt official.
Intentional pass-back, not given
Heskey takes an elbow to the head, not given
Heskey chopped down outside the area, free-kick given for a shirt pull by Rooney.
Watching over the net with Mexican commentary, I love how they use full names for all the players "John George Terry" etc. but James is referred to as David Benjamin Calamity James!
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That doesn't excuse the fact that we are p!ss poor.
No movement off the ball as usual. How much do these people earn a week?
I revise my prediction. We won't get past the last 16 at this rate.
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I never expect much from England. International football is a different animal to the hustle bustle of the premiership.
However i'll let them have another 45 minutes more before calling them a bunch of overpaid wasters ;)
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We'll see Bruv. I still think we will win the group, but after that we have to improve alot!
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Totally, England are far too interested in grabbing a goal. They need to put their foot on the ball and start to control the tempo more and offer better movement off the ball.
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there has been a couple occasions in the final 3rd where they have opted for the wrong pass or shot.
As you say a bit better movement to make it obvious for the player on the ball and they will get a move right and score.
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England needs more speed and movement, 2nd half just started on CBC.
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Now tell me again which team is ranked 8th and which is 30th ?
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Algeria has played impressively. Good game so far.
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Algeria hasn't figured out that they have better movement up the middle and they keep getting denied on the left flank. Rooney and Gerrard have finally woken up from their slumber.
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I spoke too soon about Rooney. :)
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I think ITV curse us !
last game is on BBC and if we win we qualify apparently :uhoh
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awfull, bring back Steve McLaren. :rofl
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awfull, bring back Steve McLaren. :rofl
:lol
don't help his best players like Rooney play like dogshite!
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they looked to be scared of making a mistake instead of taking control.
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There seems to be the assumption that England players should bring their club form to international matches, however they only play that good for their club because they are surrounded by high quality foreign players. Sorry guys but you haven't had a decent team since 1996, I wish the English media would stop conning English people into believing they should be winning the world cup, high expectations like that can only lead to disappointment.
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Really it looked like they thought the Algerians(French B-team) were going to be push overs. Makes me nervous for USA V Algeria.
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awfull, bring back Steve McLaren. :rofl
The guy who just won the Dutch league and turned around a mediocre Dutch side into champions in the space of a few years?? That Steve McLaren??
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There seems to be the assumption that England players should bring their club form to international matches, however they only play that good for their club because they are surrounded by high quality foreign players. Sorry guys but you haven't had a decent team since 1996, I wish the English media would stop conning English people into believing they should be winning the world cup, high expectations like that can only lead to disappointment.
It's apparent that you don't watch much football/soccer. England is most often fielding a quality team.
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It's apparent that you don't watch much football/soccer. England is most often fielding a quality team.
You gonna try and back that up with some sort of argument or reasoning poochy? or is it just because you say so? :lol
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It's apparent that you don't watch much football/soccer. England is most often fielding quality players.
Fixed
Better players doesn't always mean a better team
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Fixed
Better players doesn't always mean a better team
Fix yourself. You just proved you know very little. I eagerly await the "two trolls" next replies.
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Fix yourself. You just proved you know very little. I eagerly await the "two trolls" next replies.
You are the only one trolling here.
I don't think you understand the dynamics of a team sport.
Oh and just because someone disagrees with an assessment of yours does not mean a troll.
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Fix yourself. You just proved you know very little. I eagerly await the "two trolls" next replies.
disagree with Karaya = your a troll, seems to be a common response from you lately to anyone who disagrees with you :P and of course I'm now 'trolling' again because Karaya said so, the mans a genius! :D
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You are the only one trolling here.
I don't think you understand the dynamics of a team sport.
Oh and just because someone disagrees with an assessment of yours does not mean a troll.
I played soccer for 14 years. You've trolled my posts for the last couple of months. But you're correct, you know it all. Enjoy!
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I played soccer for 14 years. You've trolled my posts for the last couple of months. But you're correct, you know it all. Enjoy!
Really the last couple of months? I haven't responded to a post of yours other than today in maybe a full year.
I am not claiming to know it all, once again I disagree with you and somehow I am a troll.
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I played soccer for 14 years. You've trolled my posts for the last couple of months. But you're correct, you know it all. Enjoy!
Oh I thought you were gonna tell me that I was wrong, and then explain via the medium of reasoning, how thus showing your deep knowledge of football! :D but your saying its now a 'I played for XXX years' contest!?
Ok I've played 'soccer' all my life 25 odd years, do I win now??! ;) :lol
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Room for improvement.
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they looked to be scared of making a mistake instead of taking control.
All their shots on goal seem like they are concentrating on just getting them between the posts. Not one has really had any heat on it and a lot of em seem to be a foot off the turf. I just looked like they are too uptight... havent found a rhythm yet.
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The guy who just won the Dutch league and turned around a mediocre Dutch side into champions in the space of a few years?? That Steve McLaren??
No, the one that couldnt get England in to Euro 2008 and got the sack - it was a joke for the english peeps. He's a good club coach.
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Roy Hodgson is on standby.
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No, the one that couldnt get England in to Euro 2008 and got the sack - it was a joke for the english peeps. He's a good club coach.
I know, the English media mafia are quick to set people up to chop them down. I remember they had a clip up laughing at him because he taken up a Dutch accent while coaching over there. You never heard them telling about him winning the league though hes a fantastic coach and should do well at wolfsburg.
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Room for improvement.
Understatement of the Games.
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Steve McClaren was hopeless.
Fabio Capello has done a great job since he took over. I just don't know what has happened to the team spirit. They play like 11 tired strangers, however good as individual players they may be. COME ON ENGLAND FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rooney looks unfit and doesn't seem to be able to control the ball nevermind play it. Perhaps he should have been subbed?
I've been watching England since 1986 when I was eight years old. I know they can play. Why oh why do they take the hard road every time?
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I remember 1970 Dowding and 74 and 78 when we didn't qualify - it doesn't get any better mate :)
Rooneys comment was crass. Those supporters have paid thousands to see England play, they have a right to give their opinion.
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I remember 1970 Dowding and 74 and 78 when we didn't qualify - it doesn't get any better mate :)
Rooneys comment was crass. Those supporters have paid thousands to see England play, they have a right to give their opinion.
I heard his comment. It's sad he didn't realize his own lackadaisical play was one of the reasons they were booing. Their "Captain" was non-existent today.
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I switched it off after 10 minutes, did laugh when I heard about us being boo'ed of the pitch. Really they need to shape up our game, cut down on the amount of foreign players in the clubs in order to develop home grown talent...I mean come on..It must be bad if we still have to play heskey.
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England are playing with the mentality that if they don't try the can't fail. Yoda would have a field day.
Let me qualify that.
Players seem to be afraid to try the same way the do at club level. Afraid of the consequences should they try a - turn, flick, backheel, etc. - and not succeed. So we are stuck with the dross we were subjected to this morning. Boring rugby passes and dis-invention.
English football is traveling backward not through lack of talent but through lack of courage and the blame for that lies not only on the backs of the players but also in the minimum expectations of the supporter and the back-stabbing mentalityof the press.
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England are playing with the mentality that if they don't try the can't fail. Yoda would have a field day.
Let me qualify that.
Players seem to be afraid to try the same way the do at club level. Afraid of the consequences should they try a - turn, flick, backheel, etc. - and not succeed. So we are stuck with the dross we were subjected to this morning. Boring rugby passes and dis-invention.
English football is traveling backward not through lack of talent but through lack of courage and the blame for that lies not only on the backs of the players but also in the minimum expectations of the supporter and the back-stabbing mentalityof the press.
agree with you here tinman.
There were people burning effigy's of David Beckham when he got sent off against the Argies. It is amazing how fickle everyone can be. They would rather play safe than experience what he went through.
Surely we can dispatch Slovenia with them being IMO a side with much less attacking qualities than Algeria.
Rooney should have been subbed!
On the positive side, we haven't lost a match and we can get through guaranteed if we beat Slovenia. I would like to know what happens if both england and USA draw their next matches and have the same goal difference? who goes through :headscratch:
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agree with you here tinman.
There were people burning effigy's of David Beckham when he got sent off against the Argies. It is amazing how fickle everyone can be. They would rather play safe than experience what he went through.
Surely we can dispatch Slovenia with them being IMO a side with much less attacking qualities than Algeria.
Rooney should have been subbed!
On the positive side, we haven't lost a match and we can get through guaranteed if we beat Slovenia. I would like to know what happens if both england and USA draw their next matches and have the same goal difference? who goes through :headscratch:
Believe it or not, as far as I can remember for the ref course I was forced to do for my Sports History A-level. after g/d it goes to alphabetical order. I hope FIFA changed that rule cos if we qualify on ABC's I'm gonna chunder in my Frosties.
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Believe it or not, as far as I can remember for the ref course I was forced to do for my Sports History A-level. after g/d it goes to alphabetical order. I hope FIFA changed that rule cos if we qualify on ABC's I'm gonna chunder in my Frosties.
that was my initial thought :D, as long as they get classed as US of A i'll take it :P
I think it goes to goals for next, so America got 2 against slovenia we would need to match that. :uhoh
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There were people burning effigy's of David Beckham when he got sent off against the Argies. It is amazing how fickle everyone can be. They would rather play safe than experience what he went through.
Playing Devil's Advocate here but Beckham wasn't sent off for the type of back-heel as referring too. What he did, then, was stupid and he got roasted for it, but, he didn't hide. England seemed like they were scared before the fact. Gutless is the only way to describe the last 180 minutes of 3 Lion football.
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Ref was pretty awful, I wonder what level of matches he referees in Uzbekistan :rolleyes:
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I refer you to my opening post =)
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Ref was pretty awful, I wonder what level of matches he referees in Uzbekistan :rolleyes:
I generally enjoy watching World Cup soccer, but one turn off has always been the arrogance
of FIFA and the absolute pathetic quality of officials they use. I remember watching a France vrs
Ireland qualifying round in which a french striker extended his arm in the most blatant handball I'd
ever seen to knock down a cross 5 yards in front of the goal. He pumped it in and relegated the
poor Irish from cup play.
Apparently soccer is a full contact sport in Mali, as watching the Solvanian <sp> defender literally
wrap up our player in a play that would have gotten him called for holding in the NFL! Cost the US a
a victory and allowed cheaters to remain in first.
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English football is traveling backward not through lack of talent but through lack of courage and the blame for that lies not only on the backs of the players but also in the minimum expectations of the supporter and the back-stabbing mentalityof the press.
Heres a good article from Harry Rednapp
SEPP BLATTER is demanding six 'home-grown' players in every team across the world is he? Good luck. I challenge the FIFA chief to find that many able English kids in the entire Premier League. OK, so I'm stretching a point but it's to underline that I'm fed up with managers being made scapegoats for the state of our domestic game. The English working class is turning its back on football - and that is not my fault.
I do have a lot of foreign players at Portsmouth but believe me I'd love nothing more than to field a team of 11 so-called 'home-grown' lads born within the city limits. But it has become harder and harder to find enough kids of the kind of quality required to make the grade without buying an air ticket.It may sound old and corny but when I was growing up, working class lads like me in the East End lived and breathed football.
Now I rarely see a kickabout in the park. All I see are the dazzling lights of bedroom windows from the glare of TVs and computers. It seems football cannot compete with an X-Box.
Why on earth do you think so many African players are filtering through into the English game and filling the spaces in the top teams? Maybe they have the hunger and drive that working class boys of England had 30 years ago but now is replaced by video game passion.
When I got home from school I grabbed a ball and went out to play with my mates until it was too dark to see on the estate in Poplar.
Then when night came we would go to the bike sheds where there were two lights - and carry on until we were chased off by the porter. I trained with Tottenham aged 12 and as a lad with West Ham. The only facilities we had at Upton Park was a space in the car park. At Portsmouth we are investing a small fortune in trying to bring local lads through the ranks. We have recruited two great coaches in Paul Hart and Ian Woan and our academy has superb training equipment. But we cannot force kids to come and play for us.
Sure, we get the numbers but they don't seem as committed these days. It seems as if one hour a week at our academy is enough. It's almost as if today's generation want the vast rewards but they are not prepared to put in the work - or simply they do not have football running through their veins like I did. Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger said last week it is not his responsibility to look after future England teams by using positive discrimination in favour of English kids.
He is right. But he is also French and understandably he probably doesn't care about the England team. I am English. I care. And I fear a bleak future for our national team unless kids rekindle their passion. You cannot fault Premier League clubs for the effort they put in trying to nurture kids from the UK. What we are doing at Portsmouth is mirrored up and down the country. But managers like me should not be scapegoats if English kids would rather play fantasy football on their computers than the real thing.
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Apparently soccer is a full contact sport in Mali, as watching the Solvanian <sp> defender literally
wrap up our player in a play that would have gotten him called for holding in the NFL! Cost the US a
a victory and allowed cheaters to remain in first.
Yeah goal should have stood was some comeback by USA and a very entertaining match for a neutral to watch bar the poor ref. When they play it in slow mo it looked 100 times worse a descion and there wasn't a US foul to be seen :rolleyes:
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would video replays really slow the game down?
with the quality of the slow mo replays at this world cup. More for the people who have invested in HD televisions than seeing what was the correct decision are really highlighting the amount of free kicks / corners / throw ins that should have went the other way.
I mean rugby / cricket now have it. When will FIFA wake up and DO it.
Maradona 1986. Sent off for deliberate hand ball and goal disallowed?
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That rule wasn't in force then Bruv. Shilton should have punched through the ball and knocked the living daylights of the little tax evading drug addict.
Fifa have their head in the sand regarding TV replays. It wouldn't disrupt play and be a great help to the referees and linesmen who in all fairness have a difficult job keeping up with the game at the pace it's played now.
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Knorr are about to release a new stock cube. It's white with a red cross on each side. It's being marketed as the 'Laughing Stock'
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I just put a tenner on Slovenia beating England, £10 each way for Paraguay to win the world cup or come second, with odds of 33 - 1...Paraguay have played some of the best football so far imho,and if they win..net me some £££... also got £30 of free bets from williamhill for registering and using the code WORLD30 :rock
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Knorr are about to release a new stock cube. It's white with a red cross on each side. It's being marketed as the 'Laughing Stock'
Strange, I would imagine a Tricoloure instead. England might be having a bad time of it but it worse for the French. Players sent home in disgrace, the entire team refusing o train for the manager. The World might laugh at England, but they split their sides and wet their knickers when they look at the French, especially when it is remembered how they qualified.
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i watched the game in a pub full of dutch & germans :eek: :cry
this was the highlight of the whole match
i was quite surprise they didn't show it on MOTD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSGXividZCE&feature=popular (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSGXividZCE&feature=popular)
o==========<0 BBBBRRRRRRRRRR :mad:
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Fifa have their head in the sand regarding TV replays. It wouldn't disrupt play and be a great help to the referees and linesmen who in all fairness have a difficult job keeping up with the game at the pace it's played now.
It would be so easy - ref sees something questionable but lets play continue to a natural break - like US scoring for example. Then he checks out TV replays and confers with video referees to decide if the goal (or something like Kaka's sending off yesterday) should stand.
Of course the cynical would say that would take away UEFA and FIFA's ability to make sure the teams they want make it in to the big competitions and hide behind 'refereeing' decisions.
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Indeed Wooley, everyone else can see it would help. Your probably right, they like to see big teams in these comps - Henrys handball against the Irish!
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i watched the game in a pub full of dutch & germans :eek: :cry
this was the highlight of the whole match
i was quite surprise they didn't show it on MOTD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSGXividZCE&feature=popular (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSGXividZCE&feature=popular)
o==========<0 BBBBRRRRRRRRRR :mad:
Banzaii, that was indeed the highlight of that game :lol
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A team is as good as their last result. If England wins 4-0 against a decent Slovenia team, then everybody will say England is back and favorites once again.
Look at Spain today, or even portugal....
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the day has come
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A team is as good as their last result. If England wins 4-0 against a decent Slovenia team, then everybody will say England is back and favorites once again.
Look at Spain today, or even portugal....
england should have won by a cricket score!!
7-2 on chances i'd say :aok
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muuuuch more like it :aok