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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lulu on June 22, 2010, 04:40:51 PM
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Yes,
TY for this bad idea of new radar and noe altitude settings. :mad:
I hope that before You take these kind of decisions You will considerer ppl opinions. :old:
:salute
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:rofl
SQUEAKERS UNITE!!!!!
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See Rule #4
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I think its great. :)
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I believe opinions were considered. Or is it just yours they should consider?
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Well, that took longer than expected - sitting back,
Popcorn - Check
Brews - Check
Carry on
Wurzel
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Yes,
TY for this bad idea of new radar and noe altitude settings. :mad:
I hope that before to take some kind of decision You will considerer ppl opinions. :old:
:salute
Go easy on lulu, English is NOT his native language.
...and lulu, HTC DID listen, but he listened to all the people who have been complaining about the NOE becoming the only way to run a mission.
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Yes,
TY for this bad idea of new radar and noe altitude settings. :mad:
I hope that before to take some kind of decision You will considerer ppl opinions. :old:
:salute
its NOT like flying at 65' is all that hard..... :airplane:
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TY HTC indeed. :aok
This game is about combat that sometimes involves base taking. Not base taking that sometimes involves combat.
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Well, that took longer than expected - sitting back,
Popcorn - Check
Brews - Check
Carry on
Wurzel
Mind any company? I'll bring the peanuts. This should be fun to read over a pint or two...maybe three...okay four
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TY HTC indeed. :aok
This game is about combat that sometimes involves base taking. Not base taking that sometimes involves combat.
sig material ^^^^^ :aok
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sig material ^^^^^ :aok
true that
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The NOE horde running skilless squeakilicious noobs have started to cry. I love the new dar. I love it more because it makes the horde tards cry.
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I'm don't worry about 65 feets too much.
I feel that the game is no different from DA.
A big furballing, restricted to few field.
Radars cover each fields!
What can ppl do?
Kill enemy radar, and after start a noe mission with a big probability that enemy field will flash soon?
I fell It's not the way to make the game more interessing.
More. I saw that damaged cvs had an altitude from sea level of about 65 feets!
If u want to do a long range noe mission with these maps, It's impossible.
We will see.
:salute
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1. wishlist is full of more interesting things. AS to have back factories and other stuff.
2. Personally i like missions that required few ppl or that depend on few ppl strategy.
Example. Before a player could destroy a vh or a fh.
Now it would be difficult without involving other ppl.
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I don't mind that the radar range has been increased. But now we can't have the fields that close to each other because you can't even take off without being seen on enemy radar.
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:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
WTG HTC! Make em whine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :aok :aok :aok
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Sorry little choked up here....been laughing so hard :rofl I started to cry :cry.... WTG HTC! :aok
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Well the next thing is to limit the amount of people in a sector to fully make the furballer 1v1 group truly happy.
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A possible experiment.
Try new settings in one arena only.
We will see if noobs only will play in the others one.
:salute
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Well the next thing is to limit the amount of people in a sector to fully make the furballer 1v1 group truly happy.
LOL chicken little.
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LOL chicken little.
Its not far off. That is the next step.
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Well the next thing is to limit the amount of people in a sector to fully make the furballer 1v1 group truly happy.
Furballer 1v1 group? Quite the paradox...
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Furballer 1v1 group? Quite the paradox...
they are two different groups a comma would have been helpful for you or a /
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Its not far off. That is the next step.
Again chicken little.
OMG I can't hide... the sky is falling.
Bwahahaahaahaha
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why? did someone complain about runaway noes? who cares. it is a hoot watching a base flash knowing a noe is is coming then uppn to meet it head on. what about those involved in the noe? i think it is one of the most great aspects of ah. the joking around, the sight of all those planes in a small area. popping up and slamming a base. srry, dont like the new and hopefully trial dar alts one bit. its not broke. please dont fix it.
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I'm don't worry about 65 feets too much.
I feel that the game is no different from DA.
A big furballing, restricted to few field.
Radars cover each fields!
What can ppl do?
Kill enemy radar, and after start a noe mission with a big probability that enemy field will flash soon?
I fell It's not the way to make the game more interessing.
More. I saw that damaged cvs had an altitude from sea level of about 65 feets!
If u want to do a long range noe mission with these maps, It's impossible.
We will see.
:salute
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1. wishlist is full of more interesting things. AS to have back factories and other stuff.
2. Personally i like missions that required few ppl or that depend on few ppl strategy.
Example. Before a player could destroy a vh or a fh.
Now it would be difficult without involving other ppl.
You mean...
In order to capture a field you would have to learn ACM and be able to kill the enemy? You can't just sneak in with a huge hoard and try to capture it before the enemy can respond?
(Gasp!)
How horrible!
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N/M
not worth it...
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now it is all about furballing..........no sir don't like it, I think you will find out in the end it will detract from the game.
and for those of you who do like the new BISH changes,
....well, you know those maps you dont like? get used to them for long drawn out periods, because they will hang around for quite awhile!
:furious :furious :furious :furious
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now it is all about furballing..........no sir don't like it, I think you will find out in the end it will detract from the game.
and for those of you who do like the new BISH changes,
....well, you know those maps you dont like? get used to them for long drawn out periods, because they will hang around for quite awhile!
:furious :furious :furious :furious
The game has always been about Aerial Combat.
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IIRC I remember some quote from a while ago, I think HT said something along the lines of "this game is all about pissing off the other guy!"
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Again chicken little.
OMG I can't hide... the sky is falling.
Bwahahaahaahaha
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/BloodyBandage/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg)
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now it is all about furballing..........no sir don't like it, I think you will find out in the end it will detract from the game.
and for those of you who do like the new BISH changes,
....well, you know those maps you dont like? get used to them for long drawn out periods, because they will hang around for quite awhile!
:furious :furious :furious :furious
It most certainly wouldnt detract from the game. I have only seen minimal whines, with a majority of players that support the change
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LOL this is better than ENY whine.
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This is good stuff! I don't see the big deal, but it sure is funny. Its like the arena swicth from 06 all over again!!
Two enthusiastic thumbs up, with a snap in a circle.
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God forbid this game starts seeing more aeriel combat.
Good idea, HiTech.
The only fights i've been able to find lately are about as balanced as a boxing match between a Mike Tyson and a small child.
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More than a couple of people here talking about this being a fighting game, consider fighting as diving from 20k ru.. I mean extend then comeback.
Semp
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More than a couple of people here talking about this being a fighting game, consider fighting as diving from 20k ru.. I mean extend then comeback.
Semp
I'm sure you don't mean me. I rarely go above 10K (only during squad night, bombing runs and the like) and all head on merges are guns cold on my end. Unless you open up on me from 1K out with the sole intent of ending the fight here, then I will shoot back.
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God forbid this game starts seeing more aeriel combat.
Good idea, HiTech.
The only fights i've been able to find lately are about as balanced as a boxing match between a Mike Tyson and a small child.
Maybe? As I am at work & can't see the changes yet what have they done with the GV spawns in relation to the radar? Do they alert sooner now as well?
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I would assume so, but I am not what you would call a GV'er, by any means.
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I would assume so, but I am not what you would call a GV'er, by any means.
Reason I ask if that has not changed all you will get will be big GV raids base depending of course.
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Yes,
TY for this bad idea of new radar and noe altitude settings. :mad:
I hope that before You take these kind of decisions You will considerer ppl opinions. :old:
:salute
You must of missed the thread started hours before yours with pages and pages of people thanking them and offering ot buy HTC pizza and beer for a week due to the changes today.
PS - :rofl
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True NOE attacks are now going to become a work of art, undertaken by serious good pilots.
The rest of you will either have to up your game to accommodate the change, or whine a lot.
Your choice as to which you think will be more effective.
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True NOE attacks are now going to become a work of art, undertaken by serious good pilots.
The rest of you will either have to up your game to accommodate the change, or whine a lot.
Your choice as to which you think will be more effective.
Whine a lot it has worked in the very recent past.
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It has been said before. Police ourselves or face one of HT's diabolical fixes. Horde noers you've earned this. :aok
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It has been said before. Police ourselves or face one of HT's diabolical fixes. Horde noers you've earned this. :aok
It may even be better for them? Time will tell.
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It may even be better for them? Time will tell.
oh I think it will. NOEer's will have to work at it a bit more, get better skilled. Better skilled players up the competition and that will make the game better for everyone.
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The game has always been about Combat.
Fixed. YW. :D
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oh I think it will. NOEer's will have to work at it a bit more, get better skilled. Better skilled players up the competition and that will make the game better for everyone.
As far as the guys who could not stay under 500 yeah no question. Most of the Noe raids I have been on they are typically well versed in the game & the new settings I don't think will make that much difference. I see the less skilled guys being used as bait in the future as in you 5 fly this way & the rest of you follow me. It should be interesting to see how this all shakes out.
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Fixed. YW. :D
It was correct as I had it.
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The game has always been about Aerial Combat.
I get your point Lute but that's like saying there are no bases or strat's or bombers or ground vehicles and no one
should do anything but ACM and 1v1 air combat.
there are a lot of things to do in this game and it's the same old argument over n over again.....
who's 15 bucks is it?
I'M just sayin.......
froger
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It was correct as I had it.
Interesting. Nowhere on the HTC Home Page can I find the word "aerial". I can find, however ... the words "engage in air, land, and sea combat".
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I read some posts.
Many ppl talks about skills.
Well it's not a question about skills. :old:
With these maps, radar range and new noe altitude, a pieces of this game is degraded!
Many other ppl, talk about noe horders.
Well no differences with the new horders.
:salute
PS.
Many times i thought about this ...
I will squelche all ppl that have no respect for children playing this game, because
these 'so-called man' have not a bit of force to listen their (children) tone of voice
and they have not a word of respect for them (children).
This kind of bullism phenomenon must to be stopped!
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Interesting. Nowhere on the HTC Home Page can I find the word "aerial". I can find, however ... the words "engage in air, land, and sea combat".
"Aces High is a massive multi-player online combat simulation centered around the World War II air-war. Here are some of the highlights."
from the information link on home page....I think this "aerial combat" that Lute speaks of and the "air-war" that is on the home page....are well...bahhhhhhh I am sure you are smart enough to figure it out.
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Does it justify AH settings?
I don't think so.
Otherwise in WWII radar low altitude started
from 500 fts! (as i read in other posts).
Let's think. What You do when You see field flashing.
You start to defend. What kind of iussues 'old' noe style missions effect on that?
Nothing!
Now, things have changed. You can see cons well before they missions start as to speack!
'Great improuvment'!
Dos not we have just TA for this?
But have we 'so called aces' that screaming for this? Or my impression?
I read many posts in which sombody said bish abuse with noe missions.
Abuse!? What about they are speaking.
Lobbies inside HTC? :noid :rofl
They decide for new settings!?
:salute
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Police ourselves or face one of HT's diabolical fixes. Horde noers you've earned this. :aok
QFT :aok
if you were flying NOE missions with more than 10 players, its your fault the dar has been changed, noone elses.
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whats the height of the trees and barns in the game, if you fly just above the trees is this under the radar?
just wondering.
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I like the 65ft NOE for the radar ring detection. I will vouch for a 200 or 300 ft for dar bar detection, though.
Regardless, I think it will help cut down on the mass NOE hoarding.
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TY HTC indeed. :aok
This game is about combat that sometimes involves base taking. Not base taking that sometimes involves combat.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A3fDDxReG18/SnopoSuZ4fI/AAAAAAAACNE/2yn0rxmYqeU/s400/tony_thumbs_up.jpg)
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If you are whining about this here is a wake up call for you. You were part of the problem!
I'll give you another one for free, quit complaining about toolshedders!
Those guys who fly bombers are now going to be "required" in order to get much done.
The day of the 110/niki raid, smash the town and capture are over. This is the way it is now, accept it.
Change happens.
HTC with very good reason is trying to bring the bombers back into AH.
Toolshedding and griefer threads have made them an endangered species.
If this doesn't do it, chances are you are going to like the next change even less!
(my guess would be no more 1k bombs on fighters, but its just a guess)
So again, up your game, adapt, learn to deal, or the next one is going to be even worse.
Or, you can whine, and you see how much sympathy that gets you around here.
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I'll give you another one for free, quit complaining about toolshedders!
Those guys who fly bombers are now going to be "required" in order to get much done.
Thank you. :)
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Haha just blame it all on that one Bish squad!
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Example. Before a player could destroy a vh or a fh.
Now it would be difficult without involving other ppl.
Just pretend you're playing arcade game and you've reached next level.
Enjoy it, because in one level after, radar will be set so low you'll have to dig tunnels.
PS
If that doesn't work for you I'd suggest playing offline. You'll be able to set your radar as you please and it doesn't have to involve other people.
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This is a false assumption.
The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat. Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun. But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.
HiTech
The base capture system in AcesHigh is there to promote combat.
NOE Hoards do NOT promote combat.
Quite the opposite really.
Their goal is to overwhelm a base and capture it before they can be opposed.
By changing the radar settings this is no longer viable.
If you want to capture that base, you will have to fight your way in, fight your way to control it, and fight your way to that field capture. (which is pretty much what I have always done so I am quite happy w/ this change)
Yes this change promotes the combat element as it forces players to have to fight if they want that base.
There are several squads, on ALL countries, that pretty much only run massive NOE hoards to try and "win da' war" and this update was directed at that type of game play. This doesn't mean that bases can't be captured. Quite the opposite as the requirement to take a base has not changed at all. It DOES mean that for all intents and purposes you will have to change HOW you attack the base and it does promote combat in order to achieve that goal.
I am sure that the squads that try their best to avoid combat to try and capture a base will think up some other lame method to do so and HiTech will step in again and make yet another change.
Far better if these groups would instead take the time to learn how to fight and embrace the combat element as opposed to try and avoid it.
I for one had a blast last night bailing out of planes to respond to huge weenie hoard missions and beating the snot out of 'em.
Hopefully these groups will now take the time to get some Training and will focus now on learning how to fight instead of figuring out the best way to avoid it.
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who gets to decide what "lame" game play is?
I think it's going to be different depending on who you talk to...just a thought
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who gets to decide what "lame" game play is?
HiTech does.
(duh)
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oh I think it will. NOEer's will have to work at it a bit more, get better skilled. Better skilled players up the competition and that will make the game better for everyone.
Better for anyone who doesn’t quit their subscription due to the steep learning curve and prevailing antipathy towards new guys.
The rest of you will either have to up your game to accommodate the change, or whine a lot.
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So again, up your game, adapt, learn to deal, or the next one is going to be even worse.
Or, you can whine, and you see how much sympathy that gets you around here.
Or take their $15 bucks and sign up for X-Box Live, instead.
WTG HTC! Make em whine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As opposed to the constant whining about hordes (NOT h-o-a-r-d-s!) from the self identified elite?
there are a lot of things to do in this game and it's the same old argument over n over again.....
who's 15 bucks is it?
I'M just sayin.......
Froger nails it. The uber men need to ask themselves if they are willing to pay $150 per month to not be bothered by the unwashed.
Follow this.
1. Aces High has a steep learning curve.
2. NOE’s were easy.
3. New guys like easy.
4. New radar altitudes make NOEs more difficult.
5. Less new guys stick around for the abuse heaped upon them by the “win teh fite” cabal.
P.S.
I’ve flown one NOE in the last six months. The new radar setting will not affect me so much. But when I started a few years ago, it was one of the first things I remember doing that made me feel like I was in the game. Next came level bombing – another of those “uncool” activities, per the AH Forums Whining Consortium. The point is that it took a while to reach my present level of mediocrity. And I started with real life flying experience.
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Better for anyone who doesn’t quit their subscription due to the steep learning curve and prevailing antipathy towards new guys.
Are you kidding?
You actually need make the learning curve a bit shallower to destroy buildings? :huh
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There was never a problem with NOE Hordes, however there was a huge problem with Crybabies who were too lazy to defend their own flashing bases. Thanks to these COWARDS (I tried using a more accurate word but apparently censorship is alive and well in this forum) we now have a less realistic radar system in the game and zero element of surprise. They may as well force us to announce what we're doing on ALL Countries Text whenever we takeoff.
Does HTC realize that WWII was a fast moving war with territory constantly changing hands? I think your efforts towards making the map a stalemate would be put to much better use in the WWI arena.
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There was never a problem with NOE Hordes,
Wrong. There was a huge problem with them for gameplay.
Thanks to these squeakes we now have a less realistic radar system in the game and zero element of surprise.
Wrong again. Surprise still works. Noe's basically still work.
And I'm really getting a chuckle from all these guys, coming here with no arguments, no logic, unfounded accusations and "it all about ME" attitude, doing nothing than COMPLAIN - and then they call all others "crybabies" :)
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Are you kidding?
You actually need make the learning curve a bit shallower to destroy buildings? :huh
You are making my point for me. You are a Training Corp guy?
Too many arrogant posters here show contempt for the first phases of what is a common path for an AH player. Most new guys can get in and do level bombing fairly quickly. Most newbies could do NOEs.
Give new guys something to do. Who wants to sign up for a game that requires a long period of training? The learning curve is worth it, in my opinion, because the game offers depth, and I love airplanes. Some younger guys will not have the patience or attention span to put up all the hazing from the big egos on these boards.
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Too many arrogant posters here show contempt for the first phases of what is a common path for an AH player. Most new guys can get in and do level bombing fairly quickly. Most newbies could do NOEs.
It wasn't the newbies that were running constant horde NOE's against constantly changing targets to avoid any opposition and to roll a map.
Actually for a newbie that never experienced the "old" settings nothing will change much. They will still get shot down a lot, they will still make errirs of all kinds, they will still yell "anyone needs a gunner" for a week before getting used to flying themselves ;)
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Change IS good.
We ran a JU-87 mission against a vehicle base in the middle of an especially frantic TT.
The radar was still up and we were far from NOE.
After flattening the base and following up with Gvs the base was taken.
Surprise does still work(we were surprised that we made it to the target).
STUKA RAIDZ RULE!
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whats the height of the trees and barns in the game, if you fly just above the trees is this under the radar?
just wondering.
ROFLOL Jolly, heck bro... if the DAR kicked in at 2000 feet, you'd still hit a tree. I can remember that you'd hit a tree if we were flying NOE over water. HAHAHHAHA
All the Best...
Jay
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Haha just blame it all on that one Bish squad!
I think you better expand that to some squads on the Rook and Knit sides as well. There is no ONE country that is the single guilty party in this mess!
All the Best...
Jay
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Thanks to these COWARDS...
:rofl
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And I'm really getting a chuckle from all these guys, coming here with no arguments, no logic, unfounded accusations and "it all about ME" attitude, doing nothing than COMPLAIN - and then they call all others "crybabies" :)
Well Lusche, that is exactly what I've seen here in the BBS since 2002, but it was always from the "fighter purist breed". I really don't care about the new DAR implementation either way. I would think a better solution is to create multiple arenas like AirWarrior had, where you could have a fighter only arena, a complete set arena, and the events, and war periods. You cut the head off the NOE raids and they'll become the orbital raids. Maybe we should have the fuel burn multiplier reduced as we'll need the extra time to get up and stay up to cap the fields. :) I'm not advocating any position in this change but I will caution those who are overjoyed over the change, be careful of what you wish for as you just might get it. hehehhe
All the Best...
Jay
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I read some posts.
Many ppl talks about skills.
Well it's not a question about skills. :old:
With these maps, radar range and new noe altitude, a pieces of this game is degraded!
Many other ppl, talk about noe horders.
Well no differences with the new horders.
:salute
PS.
Many times i thought about this ...
I will squelche all ppl that have no respect for children playing this game, because
these 'so-called man' have not a bit of force to listen their (children) tone of voice
and they have not a word of respect for them (children).
This kind of bullism phenomenon must to be stopped!
I think that Aces High Staff ruined a fun part of this game with the new NOE and Radar changes. NOE missions are a very fun part of this game. Whats next for the furballers to complain about. GV's? Look at the radar circles. They overlap each other now. You guys keep talking about this NOE horde. My squad does some NOE missions and most of the time 6 or so guys are involved, and we do not always succeed. Many times 1 or two wirbles upping will end it. Be prepared to play the same maps for a long time now. Bad Idea!!! I watched Titanic Tuesday last night. Every base take turned into a giant furball. Base taking and moving the map is all part of the fun.
The guys complaining about NOE missions could easily stop them by watching the map. Some days I spend time just going from base to base when it starts flashing and using the manned gun to stop NOE missions. Its fun when some NOE horde rolls in and realizes that the manned gun is shooting them down. Or a wirble.
I realize that some of you flamers are going to jump on these comments. This change is in my humble opinion, a bad idea.....
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Change IS good.
We ran a JU-87 mission against a vehicle base in the middle of an especially frantic TT.
The radar was still up and we were far from NOE.
After flattening the base and following up with Gvs the base was taken.
Surprise does still work(we were surprised that we made it to the target).
STUKA RAIDZ RULE!
And you think taking bases in Tank Town is good for game play? I've always advocated that Tank Town should be uncapturable. But what the heck do I know about game play? Why not ruin the Ground Pounder's fun.
All the Best...
Jay
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Bad Idea!!! I watched Titanic Tuesday last night. Every base take turned into a giant furball. Base taking and moving the map is all part of the fun.
And you did notice that a lot of bases were still been taken? ;)
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Veeery Bad idea to split the community up into too many varied settings arenas like AW did. HTC knows what they are doing better than most. Besides, AW is out of business. Not a good idea to follow their lead eh.
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And you think taking bases in Tank Town is good for game play?
TT= Titanic Tuesday ;)
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I did notice for the couple of hours i was on last night. The numbers seemed to stay even.
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I think that Aces High Staff ruined a fun part of this game with the new NOE and Radar changes.
The game was becoming "NOE Low" not "Aces High". The Late War dweeb game was becoming way unbalanced, thus the adjustment. HTC doesn't do this sort of thing often. Consider yourself nerfed.
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I think that Aces High Staff ruined a fun part of this game with the new NOE and Radar changes. NOE missions are a very fun part of this game.
I dont doubt that NOE missions are fun. However, the whole point with the radar chages is to help promote fights. In the past, all you would see would be a bunch of greenies capping an enemy field with no uppers, and on the other side of the map would be a 15+ NOE enemy fighter hoarde overwhelming an undefended base. And this would just repeat itself all night long. Fact is, NOE hoardes do NOT promote fights when they are unseen (as it was in the past).
Looks to me like youre going to have to learn some ACM and some new tactics.
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And you think taking bases in Tank Town is good for game play? I've always advocated that Tank Town should be uncapturable. But what the heck do I know about game play? Why not ruin the Ground Pounder's fun.
All the Best...
Jay
TT =Titanic Tuesday,sorry for any confusion. :salute
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And you did notice that a lot of bases were still been taken? ;)
Yes Lusche, You are correct. Bases were still being taken. My squad to one after a long and messy battle that included gv's. I just happen to enjoy NOE missions. I can fly at tree top level. I am more concerned with the 20 mile radar ring. We wlil play and see how it all turns out I guess.
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I watched Titanic Tuesday last night. Every base take turned into a giant furball.
Guess HTC did it right. :devil
Base taking and moving the map is all part of the fun.
Yeah it is, especially after hard-fought battle
This change is in my humble opinion, a bad idea.....
Yeah, if everyone said the same, Earth would still be flat and you wouldn't be here at all... :aok
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Guess HTC did it right. :devil
Yeah it is, especially after hard-fought battle
Yeah, if everyone said the same, Earth would still be flat and you wouldn't be here at all... :aok
Salute 2BigHorn!! :salute.
We will just have to wait and see how it all plays out ..
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My squad to one after a long and messy battle that included gv's.
Now didn't that feel good? Didn't those backslaps, self-congratulations and declarations of how you are the greatest squad in the game mean so much more? This will be good for you as you learn how to overcome obstacles and see the rewards of the fruits of your labors.
HTC has done their part to improve humanity. I'm serious about that pizza...
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Now didn't that feel good? Didn't those backslaps, self-congratulations and declarations of how you are the greatest squad in the game mean so much more? This will be good for you as you learn how to overcome obstacles and see the rewards of the fruits of your labors.
HTC has done their part to improve humanity. I'm serious about that pizza...
This needs to be supplemented with this quote from JFK for all of the NOE whiners:
"There is no strife, no prejudice, no national conflict in outer space as yet. Its hazards are hostile to us all. Its conquest deserves the best of all mankind, and its opportunity for peaceful cooperation many never come again. But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas?
We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too."
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You are making my point for me. You are a Training Corp guy?
Yep, I'm also entitled to have an opinion. In the Training Arena, I don't have an opinion, I simply cover whatever the student wants to learn.
That said, in all my time in the Training Arena I've never been asked how to take a base nor have I been asked how to avoid radar.
Give new guys something to do.
They can still attack bases, only now we see them coming.
The learning curve is worth it, in my opinion, because the game offers depth, and I love airplanes. Some younger guys will not have the patience or attention span to put up all the hazing from the big egos on these boards.
I think you'll find even the biggest egos in Aces High will drop whatever they are doing and help a new player if they ask them a question. Some will even go as far as taking them to the DA/TA and show them things as well. You don't have to be Trainer to help a new player.
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to Ghost , who said
"Or, you can whine, and you see how much sympathy that gets you around here."
"I'll give you another one for free, quit complaining about toolshedders!"
Fisrt.
Nobody are whining.
Second
You don't give me properly NOTHING!
And becaefull to use this mafia leanguage with me or You will loose my respect for You!
(I cannot belive You did that, perhaps i read bad Your line. I hope for You.)
Third
If noe bombers could be the problem, then operate on they.
"Adapt, etc." <--- i was not speaking about these.
To WMlute, who said: "NOE Hoards do NOT promote combat."
"Yes this change promotes the combat element as it forces players to have to fight if they want that base"
Otherwise furballing gangbanging is a combat?
I spent a lot's of effort in defending field from any kind of attak, noe ones included.
So old style radar did not reduce combat element as You say.
For the rest, WMlute Your arguments seems to me a paralogism only.
I repeat. I post this not for a lak of skill (what skill can have You with a 65 fts noe alt settings!) :joystick:
Last night, with new feature, i did well too. In 2 hours, I did not ho anybody
but many so-called aces ho me. except a p51 at 133 field, probably flown, by a loose deuce pilot.
Good guys, except Chewi! :rofl
But i was very brb to do furball every time!
About HTC, is quite obviously that they can decide what they think better.
As to me they understimate very much that many players play for fun not for scoring
or to win the war. Their methods is quite buggy I said. Let's tray new feature in one
arena, and observe what happens would be better.
To Lusche, who said: "It wasn't the newbies that were running constant horde NOE's against constantly changing targets to avoid any opposition and to roll a map."
Where did You see this? At the cinemascope!
No, that was star wars film!
Lushe are You a teacher? :D
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Paralogism?
Nothing at all illogical with my line of reasoning.
(yes I had to look that up to be 100% on the definition. good word. :aok )
A furball is combat. Not sure how you can consider it otherwise.
Having to fight to capture a field does promote combat.
Avoiding combat by flying NOE and swarming a field with a sneak attack does not.
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You know who we are and we will be back to rolling Knight and Rook bases in no time.
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to Ghost , who said
And becaefull to use this mafia leanguage with me or You will loose my respect for You!
(I cannot belive You did that, perhaps i read bad Your line. I hope for You.)
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Ghost, I didn't know you Mafia guys were up in the white north. :bolt:
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You know who we are and we will be back to rolling Knight and Rook bases in no time.
The Wirbel Gawd awaits... :devil
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You know who we are and we will be back to rolling Knight and Rook bases in no time.
Who are you again?
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I forgotted an important thing.
Any corrections to my english are welcome.
WMlute, as to me, You substain a thesis whit an hypothesis that is itself that thesis.
Furball is not the only kind of combat You had in AH and/or in WWII.
I'm not an expert but how Axis force arrived to Y-29?
Did they fly noe?
If so, one of the most celebrate air battle started from a noe attak!
:salute
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You know who we are and we will be back to rolling Knight and Rook bases in no time.
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:noid
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TT =Titanic Tuesday,sorry for any confusion. :salute
My sincere apology! <S>
All the Best...
Jay
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A few simple thoughts.
1. Best way to win a war is to hit the enemy where they ain't.
2. Best way to have fun in a combat orientated game is to have combat.
3. Attacking undefended targets is not combat even though it is the best strategy to win.
4. This is a game and not work or war. Expecting some one to be on defense with no idea if a strike is coming is not a legitimate expectation. Hence, you should defend your field is not a legitimate argument if it requires some one to do a very boring act with no guaranty of combat.
5. Defense now has more warning on a strike and time to organize a defense, so now we are more likely to have an offense and defense playing against each other instead of 2 offenses playing by themselves.
Hence these changes have nothing to do with fur-ball vs tool shedding. But simply about putting offense and defense on a more = level.
HiTech
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Veeery Bad idea to split the community up into too many varied settings arenas like AW did. HTC knows what they are doing better than most. Besides, AW is out of business. Not a good idea to follow their lead eh.
The only reason that AW is out of business is because ElectronicArts purchased it so they could use their technology, and then kill it to promote their Massive Online Game, which failed miserably. You obviously have no idea about the AW community, which this game has a large amount of folks that are AW vets.
All the Best...
Jay
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Yep, I'm also entitled to have an opinion. In the Training Arena, I don't have an opinion, I simply cover whatever the student wants to learn.
That said, in all my time in the Training Arena I've never been asked how to take a base nor have I been asked how to avoid radar.
They can still attack bases, only now we see them coming.
I think you'll find even the biggest egos in Aces High will drop whatever they are doing and help a new player if they ask them a question. Some will even go as far as taking them to the DA/TA and show them things as well. You don't have to be Trainer to help a new player.
Never denied you the right to an opinion. And, to HTC's credit, they have been extremely patient with some of my past flaming posts.
In the early 21st century, more trophies are given out for Participation than for First Place. New, young players are raised in an environment that is too concerned with self esteem. "Johnny can't read, but he feels good about it." These young potential subscribers are probably going to resist the hazing process that is common in the game.
If I have a point, it is the market is full of newbie friendly games. We need to try to retain as many as possible. Pardon my elitism.
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WOW ... you'd have thought that they removed NOE all together with all the whinage ... they just made it "harder" ... as it should be.
A real NOE attack should make your palms sweat and have your undivided attention due to the tension and concentration of trying to fly tree top level to the target. If you can pull it off, then consider it a "job well done".
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In the early 21st century, more trophies are given out for Participation than for First Place. New, young players are raised in an environment that is too concerned with self esteem. "Johnny can't read, but he feels good about it." These young potential subscribers are probably going to resist the hazing process that is common in the game.
Wow. So now we should perpetuate this travesty even in our cartoon make-believe games? Glad you are not in charge.
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You obviously have no idea about the AW community, which this game has a large amount of folks that are AW vets.
All the Best...
Jay
I had already been in this game several years when AW went tits up and that player base moved over here to AH, so you can rest assured I know about the large amount of folks that are ex AW players (I refrain from using the term vet for anything other than armed forces veterans).
When I started playing the genre in 97 I studied both AirWarrior and Warbirds and I concluded then, correctly, that Warbirds provided the higher fidelity gaming and virtual flight/combat experience. WBs is where I went. I followed HT and Pyro here and have been a customer since the day it opened to the public.
My observation is both immediate and long term. AH does not need a bunch of similar arenas differentiated by game play settings as it would simply serve to further split up the community, and AH does not need to follow, for WHATEVER reason, AirWarrior. No need to follow that game model in any fashion as it is dead, kaput, finished.
I wonder if that clears up your misunderstanding of what I know?
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Wow. So now we should perpetuate this travesty even in our cartoon make-believe games? Glad you are not in charge.
Pardon my ramble on that one.
My poorly explained point is that, as soothing as it is to your ego, some people will leave rather than be continuously insulted. Especially when there are many games on the market that give instant (albeit hollow) gratification.
We can agree on being glad I am not in charge.
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S.O.A.R. proved in the EW arena that NOE doesn't matter if the whole map is undefended. Let the steam roller NOE crowd roll the EW and MW arenas.
Last night the Bish during TT attempted to hit 3 knight bases at the same time with HUGE numbers. Happily I took part in some of the best mass combat I've been in since AH1 helping defend those bases. Then we turned around and took one Vbase with a quick rush and thought we could JABBO a small airfeild the same way in the bish side lines. Our real mistake was to not bring half of our force as medium bombers on the heels of our JABBO after they got the VH and Radar. We had not adapted our style of quick base taking to the new Radar and instead got caught up in a long furball after the clock ran out on the ack, FH and VH. In the time it took P51's from the nearest bish feild to make it over to challenge us, medium bombers on the heels of our JABBO would have had the town ready for our M3.
If you want to steam roll bases now use real WW2 tactics. Send in JABBO to take down the Radar, VH and tie up figthers. Have A20's, B25, or B26 roar in at medium alt (7k-8k) on their heels to shock the town and whats left of the feild. Medium Bombers??? now why were they called medium bombers??? Oh bombers that operated at medium alt roaring in to shock a target...... Follow all that up with two boxes of Lancs at 12k just in case with all the shock and AW you still manage to get out of sync with the VH and ack.
Funny I remember before everybody got lazy and chicken for some reason most missions ran like I just described. But, back then we were all called cowards because we chose to fly with a HOARD that everyone could see coming on DAR. Back then it was the furballers that whined about the big hoard missions and all the newbies tagging along to get free picks on them. Last night the furballers were extatic and begging for more HOARD to kill because now they could see them coming.
In AH1 the original GETSUM would put up missions with 20-30 B26 and 12-15 P38 JABBO. He rolled bases without going NOE. It may be time for those missions again......
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A few simple thoughts.
1. Best way to win a war is to hit the enemy where they ain't.
2. Best way to have fun in a combat orientated game is to have combat.
3. Attacking undefended targets is not combat even though it is the best strategy to win.
4. This is a game and not work or war. Expecting some one to be on defense with no idea if a strike is coming is not a legitimate expectation. Hence, you should defend your field is not a legitimate argument if it requires some one to do a very boring act with no guaranty of combat.
5. Defense now has more warning on a strike and time to organize a defense, so now we are more likely to have an offense and defense playing against each other instead of 2 offenses playing by themselves.
Hence these changes have nothing to do with fur-ball vs tool shedding. But simply about putting offense and defense on a more = level.
HiTech
:aok
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WOW ... you'd have thought that they removed NOE all together with all the whinage ... they just made it "harder" ... as it should be.
A real NOE attack should make your palms sweat and have your undivided attention due to the tension and concentration of trying to fly tree top level to the target. If you can pull it off, then consider it a "job well done".
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The NOE horde running skilless squeakilicious noobs have started to cry. I love the new dar. I love it more because it makes the horde tards cry.
:aok
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"Yes, TY for this bad idea of new radar and noe altitude settings. angry
I hope that before You take these kind of decisions You will considerer ppl opinions. old
salute"
Lulu just what do you think that sounds like? To me it sounds like a child who was playing with a toy in an improper manner, ie useing that truck to bash a piece of furniture. And that toy was taken away. As a result your wailing away at the top of your lungs. Angry, and upset about something that you did!
With all due respect sir, listen to the "tone" of what you said, and the way you said it.
And then remember a couple of things.
A: This is Hitechs sandbox, we are allowed to play in it as long as we play nice.
B: When Hitech says somethings going to change, guess what, its going to change. Its HIS sandbox.
C Coming here and insulting him because he made a change you don't agree with is the very definition of a whine. From Websters Dictionary" to utter a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry "
Now if you had said something like.
"Hitech, sir with all due respect, I disagree with your change of the radar settings. And this is why.......................... .................."
You would not have gotten the response from me that you got.
You want respect, it starts with you showing it.
Do you really think that he did not consider people's opinions of these changes before he made them?
Really? You really think he's that stupid?
I don't, I think he is perhaps the smartest, most intelligent man I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.
His think box is on all the time, and unlike most folks he uses it all. Ohhh and just for the record my own IQ was measured at over 200 back when I was young.
Aces High if you take the long long view, seeing it all over the years is a history of change.
Many many things have changed many many times. Almost all of them for the better. If you can separate yourself from your emotions and truly take the long view.
This is just one more in a long long list of changes that helps keep AH alive and well.
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Wow. So now we should perpetuate this travesty even in our cartoon make-believe games? Glad you are not in charge.
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No homework for you tonight! :D
Pardon my ramble on that one.
My poorly explained point is that, as soothing as it is to your ego, some people will leave rather than be continuously insulted. Especially when there are many games on the market that give instant (albeit hollow) gratification.
Well last weekend I received 5 nasty pm's, from newer or unknown players by me. Maybe I'll just take my ball and go home. :D
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The NOE horde running skilless squeakilicious noobs have started to cry. I love the new dar. I love it more because it makes the horde tards cry.
I do not agree with Bip often but this time spot on!!! :aok
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Looks like a lot of people need to ice their taints. Doesn't seem to that big of a deal. Griefers will always grief whiners will always whine. Put on your big girl panties an deal with it
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Ohhh and just for the record my own IQ was measured at over 200 back when I was young.
Yeah, sure. Sorry but gotta call BS on that one. Completely ridiculous "bang your own drum" statement.
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yeah you might want to do a wechsler test just to confirm that...
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Yeah, sure. Sorry but gotta call BS on that one. Completely ridiculous "bang your own drum" statement.
I don't.
You ever talk to Ghosth?
(IIRC I was only @ 179 so I guess i'm the "dummy" of the bunch)
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Yeah, sure. Sorry but gotta call BS on that one. Completely ridiculous "bang your own drum" statement.
It is official... as Trainers we cannot express an opinion, nor can we have an IQ higher than average.
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No NOE no problem. If any of you Buff drivers start getting flack about your altitude just direct them to this address. Top right colum under 448th Sub-Depot (Video from Ridgewell circa 1943-1945) It will take you to the vids. 1st Video at top of page. 28K
http://www.381st.org/History/Old381stSite.aspx (http://www.381st.org/History/Old381stSite.aspx)
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IQ higher than average.
higher than average is one thing, 200 on the wechsler scale is roughly 1 in 1bn. ie. one of the 7 smartest people on earth ... I say roughly, lute is smarter than einstein so he can do the maths for you :D
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The game has always been about Aerial Combat.
Wrong
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IIRC I remember some quote from a while ago, I think HT said something along the lines of "this game is all about pissing off the other guy!"
Yes, he did say that but I didn't think he meant it was about HIM pissing off a bunch of his customers. :noid
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Wrong
One would think that...
Aces High is a massive multi-player online combat simulation centered around the World War II air-war.
on the Flyaceshigh.com Features page was a dead giveaway.
(Edit: good catch. It says that under Features. My bad.)
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On mine it says: "Welcome to the Internet's premiere WWII and WWI combat experience" :uhoh
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higher than average is one thing, 200 on the wechsler scale is roughly 1 in 1bn. ie. one of the 7 smartest people on earth ... I say roughly, lute is smarter than einstein so he can do the maths for you :D
That would be true if 179 was on the Wechsler.
It wasn't.
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And you did notice that a lot of bases were still been taken? ;)
Speeking of hordes......lets see here.......2 rook/nit bases flashing ....12-15 bish rook/nit bases flashing.... :huh
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Speeking of hordes......lets see here.......2 rook/nit bases flashing ....12-15 bish rook/nit bases flashing.... :huh
If you are talking about LWO: There is neither much action on the Knight/Bish front. And Knights are quite outnumbered in the arena too.
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IIRC I remember some quote from a while ago, I think HT said something along the lines of "this game is all about pissing off the other guy!"
that has been the main goal of these games since Air Warrior.
ack-ack
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I'm sure you don't mean me. I rarely go above 10K (only during squad night, bombing runs and the like) and all head on merges are guns cold on my end. Unless you open up on me from 1K out with the sole intent of ending the fight here, then I will shoot back.
I think he's referring more to his fighting style than anything else.
ack-ack
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I wonder if that clears up your misunderstanding of what I know?
Except Doc was absolutely correct about how the multiple arenas in AW had nothing do with the demise of AW. The multiple arenas did not have any tangible negative impact on the AW community.
ack-ack
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Honestly Ghost,
1. It's Your opinion that sound to me as You tell about my one.
As to me a very low exercise of bad self made man psychology application.
2. I was not post directly about Hitech. In my post HTC was hitech creation.
This is not so much important. Don't lost the point.
I questioned Your words not Hitech decisions.
(About ppl opinions I was thinking about wishlist posts).
Ideas can be discussed (as everyone knows).
So nobody can fell himself insulting for his ideas otherwise he is in bad faith for me. Other thing is that You said that i cannot post my ideas about new settings. About the form of my message I thought HTC company not so formal as You shows. Expecially Your friend Hitech I thought - who can makes mistakes as all of us.
A briefly proof.
"Hitech, sir with all due respect,
TY for this bad idea of new radar and noe altitude settings.
I'm very ungry for this.
I hope that before You take these kind of decisions You will considerer ppl opinions."
and I would add
"and try this on one arena only and do not consider ppl opinions only."
Fell any differeces? Nah!
If I don't respect somebody, why I speak with him?
On the contrary many speak, formally expecially, but don't have respect.
That's way Your enemies are Your 'best friends'.
3. I think Your answer mostly not acceptable also if i can see the cause of Your mistake - see 1.
4. I don t know why You tell about Your IQ. I never mentioned it.
Some discovery I hear said that IQ is not a good indicator.
5. I did some raid with bombers tonight.
I still think we went to frying pan to fire.
Let's hope and wait HTC will find a better compromise
as in past time.
6. I will not spent other words on these argument.
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:lol wtf is that? I had to take 2 Advil to read that mess :lol
Forgive me if you're from a non english speaking country. I could understand the horrid form and spelling if that were the case.
But if you're an American kid, the radar in this game should be the least of your worries.
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UpTown,
Did You read pag. 7?
Happy to know that You understood the horrible etc after 2 advil.
Can You correct it? May be with one more advil.
It will be very helpfull
TY
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:lol wtf is that? I had to take 2 Advil to read that mess :lol
Forgive me if you're from a non english speaking country. I could understand the horrid form and spelling if that were the case.
But if you're an American kid, the radar in this game should be the least of your worries.
lulu isn't a native English speaker.
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Hey bud if you're from another country like Italy or Greece or something, it's all good and I can understand and accept your misspelling and such. Hell, if that's the case you're more fluent in another language then I'll ever be.
No, I didn't read page 7 until you mentioned it. I take it you ARE from another country. Forgive me on my comment on your post if that's the case.
One of my pet peeves is American kids that worry too much about video games instead of learning the proper use of what's taught in our schools first. I don't expect that from folks from other countries, but I do expect that my fellow countrymen. :salute
Again I apologize for my misunderstanding.
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UpTown, again, did u read pag. 7?
I think that I have no much excuses for my English.
I was speaking seriously.
Can You correct it?
TY
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Honestly Ghost,
1. It's your opinion that sound to me as you tell about my one.
As to me a very low exercise of bad self made man psychology application.
2. I was not posting directly about Hitech. In my post HTC was Hitech Creations.
This is not so important. Don't miss the point.
I questioned your words not Hitech decisions.
(About ppl opinions I was thinking about wishlist posts).
Ideas can be discussed (as everyone knows).
So nobody can fell himself insulting for his ideas otherwise he is in bad faith for me. Another thing is that you said that i can not post my ideas about new settings. About the form of my message I thought HTC company not so formal as you shows. Especially your friend Hitech I thought - who can make mistakes as all of us.
A brief example:
"Hitech, sir with all due respect,
TY for this bad idea of new radar and noe altitude settings.
I'm very angry for this.
I hope that before you make these kind of decisions you will consider ppl opinions."
and I would add:
"and try this on one arena only and do not consider ppl opinions only."
Tell any differences? Nah!
If I don't respect somebody, why would I speak with him?
On the contrary many speak, formally especially, but don't have respect.
That's why your enemies are your 'best friends'.
3. I think your answer is mostly not acceptable also if i can see the cause of your mistake - see 1.
4. I don t know why you tell me about your IQ. I never mentioned it.
Someone once said that IQ is not a good indicator.
5. I did a raid with bombers tonight.
I still think we went from the frying pan into the fire.
Lets hope and wait HTC will find a better compromise
as in the past.
6. I will not spend anymore words on this argument.
:salute
This is the best I could do. I flunked English in high school. :bolt:
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Better for anyone who doesn’t quit their subscription due to the steep learning curve and prevailing antipathy towards new guys.
Or take their $15 bucks and sign up for X-Box Live, instead.
As opposed to the constant whining about hordes (NOT h-o-a-r-d-s!) from the self identified elite?
Froger nails it. The uber men need to ask themselves if they are willing to pay $150 per month to not be bothered by the unwashed.
Follow this.
1. Aces High has a steep learning curve.
2. NOE’s were easy.
3. New guys like easy.
4. New radar altitudes make NOEs more difficult.
5. Less new guys stick around for the abuse heaped upon them by the “win teh fite” cabal.
P.S.
I’ve flown one NOE in the last six months. The new radar setting will not affect me so much. But when I started a few years ago, it was one of the first things I remember doing that made me feel like I was in the game. Next came level bombing – another of those “uncool” activities, per the AH Forums Whining Consortium. The point is that it took a while to reach my present level of mediocrity. And I started with real life flying experience.
Steep learning curve? Actually learning how to use the bombsite?
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ROFLOL Jolly, heck bro... if the DAR kicked in at 2000 feet, you'd still hit a tree. I can remember that you'd hit a tree if we were flying NOE over water. HAHAHHAHA
All the Best...
Jay
LOL Jay :rofl :rofl :rofl
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The new dar has effectively taken away the NOE raids, that for many people was a fun and exiting element of gameplay.
Currently the maps have the bases too close to each other to really make it a worth while change, but as the rules have changed, so will the tactics change, and so will the NOE players. Either it will now become an alt monkey BnZ game or an increased group hoarding base smashing game.
I look forward to see us go back to how it was, once everybody reverses thier positions on this with the usual old whine. Can't wait until the time one side really perfects and embraces the tactics needed now to win wars.
(I may have to change my sig to; Coming to smash a radar network near you)
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So one question here speaking of hordes.....if we up 20 flights of b-17s to 30k and turn a base/town into dust, capture it are we going to be called HORDES and have 20 pages of whines :cry. Just want to know the new rules of COMBAT for this game.
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So one question here speaking of hordes.....if we up 20 flights of b-17s to 30k and turn a base/town into dust, capture it are we going to be called HORDES and have 20 pages of whines :cry. Just want to know the new rules of COMBAT for this game.
What's in a name? Horde, Cherrypicker, Alt Monkey, Furballer, Tool Shedder...who cares what you're called! At least the defender will have a chance to stop you. That's much more fun than not being able to do anything about it. That's what all this is all about! More combat = more FUN! Bring it on! We got plenty of ammunition!
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I have found that the definition of what amount of pilots constitutes a horde has quite a range. I won't hazard a guess, as I have seen 5 planes being accused of hording, and I have defended against 30+ plane hordes. Hordes are now irrelevant, because now I can see them!!! WTG HTC!!! :D
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Blooz,
Noe hordes were stopped many time. C'mon!
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Except Doc was absolutely correct about how the multiple arenas in AW had nothing do with the demise of AW.
I kind of got that feeling but wanted to address my supposed lack of understanding the AW community.
I experienced our small and tight AH community for all intents and purposes basically get borged into a massive AW community over the course of a single day. Even today a good portion of the people in this game came from AW. Its all good but kinda sucked back then.
One thing is for sure, if AW did it and it made sense then its very likely already incorporated into AH one way or another. I suspect the idea of multiple arenas with varied game play settings like AW had is not a very powerful idea right now. However, the talk about being able to set up private arenas with a very limited number of players (8?) within the subscription game will have far more leg room down the road.
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Blooz,
Noe hordes were stopped many time. C'mon!
:salute
Lulu,
Man up and learn to fly. Do away with your NOE foolishness. I think you would have a lot more fun with the game if you try to learn other aspects of the game.
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My observation is both immediate and long term. AH does not need a bunch of similar arenas differentiated by game play settings as it would simply serve to further split up the community, and AH does not need to follow, for WHATEVER reason, AirWarrior. No need to follow that game model in any fashion as it is dead, kaput, finished.
I wonder if that clears up your misunderstanding of what I know?
Actually it does not! You state that AH does not need a bunch of similar arenas differentiated by game play settings, but AH does in fact have similar arenas differentiated by game play settings. Let me see... We have WWI, Early,mid,late war Orange and Blue, the DA and all the SE arenas. My point is why not just add another arena with only fighters enabled? Hitech found it desirable to create all these other arenas and I for one believe that he does know how to run his game and I've never challenged that fact. I also firmly believe that the community has been split for years into many factions, we have the fighter purist, toolsheeders, groundpounders, base-capturers, score-potatos, and those like me who do it all (except score-whoring as I'm not worth a squat in that department). So you think that adding an additional arena with a small map for just the fighter "purist" will split the community more than it is now? I think NOT! BTW... I give your response a +8 in sucking up to the man category. :lol
All the Best...
Jay
PS.. Do ya even fly online anymore?
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Steep learning curve? Actually learning how to use the bombsite?
There is a steep learning curve to get to every aspect of the game.
Level bombing is the one of the more accessible activities in the game with regards to learning curve and hardware requirements. So, it is early in the typical player development. And, it is frequently mocked by those who consider themselves uber-men.
The connection between new radar altitudes and hazing is a bit of a dramatic stretch, I know.
NOEs are an entry level activity. New guys will be more affected by the lower radar altitudes. There are a few guys who whine about NOE base taking and also are very impatient with newbies. Attitude towards new guys is more appropriate for a whole new thread.
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So one question here speaking of hordes.....if we up 20 flights of b-17s to 30k and turn a base/town into dust, capture it are we going to be called HORDES and have 20 pages of whines :cry. Just want to know the new rules of COMBAT for this game.
You would probably be laughed at for needing 20 sets of buffs to take one base. :D
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PS.. Do ya even fly online anymore?
I have spent most of the past few months in WW1 but I haven't used Yeager as my in game ID in years.
PS I was actually thinking more along the lines of EZ mode versus Realistic. Not a good idea. Next thing you know people will start asking for all sorts of various arenas. Night only, GV only, Ship only etc etc ....like I alluded to in a different post HTC has been rumored to be considering the option of being able to set up small arenas with limited players for private events. That might capture what you are after and shouldn't have much of an impact on MAs...but trying to create 30-40 different arenas to satisfy all the different classes you mentioned will only dilute the concept of even having MAs....go talk with HT about that lol
I DO support the MAs being divided into Eras though...that makes pure sense to me.
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Blooz,
Noe hordes were stopped many time. C'mon!
:salute
Looks like they will be stopped more often now.
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Plazus,
Which is Your in game nikname actually? (i see You like p38 ... 'hell pilot')
I could think and say that You also enjoy yourself more if You
try to figure the key point with less distraction.
To fly under 65 fts is possible (quite brb) but this is not the point.
Noe missions and high alt buff are pretty independently each other.
Win the war is the last of my thought. For me this is related to ppl numbers only.
Not so much skill for this.
You can figure, I prefer when we had factories and other stuff around.
And I will fly more noe if we have winter arena with high beautifull christmas trees.
What to say about the old possibility to snake among canyons in maps that have those.
And another question arise. Why we have special event arenas?
If there are squadrons that want to challenge with special settings why not use those one?
Or why they don't use it in MA?? This is an interesting point.
Why they did not do high buff before? :O
I can guess with only a type of low myself made man psychology.
I start to think that who are whining are properly these squadrons. :noid
Before I can do noe and high alt buff. Not now because noe buff become brb.
Until now I did four or five noe individual buff! :P
With quite the same result as before to destroy something If hungry wierbies permit. :D
Differently from past now I'm horde with a lot's of ho ppl and I forgot some interesting 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 1 fights.
I did also high p51 individual raid with same result.
Fire and pray in ho festival is really better?
I will see patiently and discuss this the same if it needs.
:salute
UpTown, You will need more advill. Sorry. :lol
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So Blooz, You more happy?
Why?
:salute
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Plazus,
Which is Your in game nikname actually? (i see You like p38 ... 'hell pilot')
I could think and say that You also enjoy yourself more if You
try to figure the key point with less distraction.
To fly under 65 fts is possible (quite brb) but this is not the point.
Noe missions and high alt buff are pretty independently each other.
Win the war is the last of my thought. For me this is related to ppl numbers only.
Not so much skill for this.
You can figure, I prefer when we had factories and other stuff around.
And I will fly more noe if we have winter arena with high beautifull christmas trees.
What to say about the old possibility to snake among canyons in maps that have those.
And another question arise. Why we have special event arenas?
If there are squadrons that want to challenge with special settings why not use those one?
Or why they don't use it in MA?? This is an interesting point.
Why they did not do high buff before? :O
I can guess with only a type of low myself made man psychology.
I start to think that who are whining are properly these squadrons. :noid
Before I can do noe and high alt buff. Not now because noe buff become brb.
Until now I did four or five noe individual buff! :P
With quite the same result as before to destroy something If hungry wierbies permit. :D
Differently from past now I'm horde with a lot's of ho ppl and I forgot some interesting 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 1 fights.
I did also high p51 individual raid with same result.
Fire and pray in ho festival is really better?
I will see patiently and discuss this the same if it needs.
:salute
UpTown, You will need more advill. Sorry. :lol
Reading this overwhelms me with suicidal tendencies.
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Lulu,
I think you are taking the radar changes too seriously. The point of the change is to allow defenders a chance to intercept a raid and spark some combat. If you want to fly NOE all you want, then do it! Youll find out that youll need a change of tactics if you wish to be successful with your NOE raid. Because of this, I am suggesting you invest your time in AH in learning other aspects of the game. Otherwise youll just make yourself miserable because your age-old tactic of sneaking bases is losing its effectiveness.
When I started playing AH back in '03, I remember when I participated in all of those smash 'n grab NOE raids. They were fun, for about a month. Then it got old and repetitive. So I changed my style of play to a more combat oriented type, and since then I have had loads of fun sharing memories with others. This is why I think you need to relax and get rid of that chip off your shoulder. AH will be more fun that way.
PS: My current ingame name is 82Plazus. I was formerly known as Plazus (2008) and Hyperion (2009). I flew under different ingame names before I started this BBS account.
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So Blooz, You more happy?
Why?
:salute
Yes.
I play defense.
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Plazus,
If You think so:
"When I started playing AH back in '03, I remember when I participated in all of those smash 'n grab NOE raids. They were fun, for about a month. Then it got old and repetitive. So I changed my style of play to a more combat oriented type, and since then I have had loads of fun sharing memories with others." <--- i can agree
Why hell things cannot go as in past times! :O
:salute
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Blooz,
Before did not You play defence?
Why?
:salute
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Blooz,
Before did not You play defence?
Why?
:salute
Yes.
To stop people from attacking the base.
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defense me play now like muchly with fly squad go up up down down muchly flames go to dying less then more with such as
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Blooz,
So You now stop noe raids with no defending but through new settings only (cause they are too boring now).
:salute
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defense me play now like muchly with fly squad go up up down down muchly flames go to dying less then more with such as
Lighten up.
Lulu doesn't speak English.
Thanks.
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Blooz,
So You now stop noe raids with no defending but through new settings only (cause they are too boring now).
:salute
No.
More fighting now for defense because we can see you coming.
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Why hell things cannot go as in past times! :O
:salute
Change is constant. I'm certain you will find a way to adjust to the new settings.
:salute
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Lighten up.
Lulu doesn't speak English.
Thanks.
Easy hotrod, if I have to suffer through that, then I can make a joke about it too. It kind of reminds me of "yodaspeak".
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No.
More fighting now for defense because we can see you coming.
Had PLENTY of time before the change to up a good defense, if you wanted to.
Some of the best fights ever were upping against a good NOE raid.
The attackers are on the deck!!
Up and fight, no alt monkeys.
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Had PLENTY of time before the change to up a good defense, if you wanted to.
Some of the best fights ever were upping against a good NOE raid.
The attackers are on the deck!!
Up and fight, no alt monkeys.
Twice as much time now.
You'll be able to catch them before they hit the AAA umbrella now.
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Twice as much time now.
You'll be able to catch them before they hit the AAA umbrella now.
Twice as much time?
I can't count the noe missions I've caught AND announced with plenty of time to mount a defense.
And guess what. Most of the time nobody came.
What makes anyone think that these same guys who didn't care before, are gonna start caring now?
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UpTown, You will need more advill. Sorry. :lol
Lulu, that post is much much better. No Advil needed :aok :cheers:
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Twice as much time now.
You'll be able to catch them before they hit the AAA umbrella now.
If they still manage to stay NOE, you don't have twice as much time now, as the base warning range is still the same.
(I wish they had increased warning range instead of dar range)
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Me personally, I like the change. There is nothing like going 350 knots through the trees. :D