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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wildcat1 on January 07, 2011, 09:26:48 PM
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i wanted to break this away from the airsoft thread before it even started, so here ya are.
personally, i'm a softie for the classics, and at least 3 times a month you will see me at the local range burning through ammo in the .50 cal M2 (they have it for Army training, us ROTC guys love it). 50 cents a round/$90 for a box of 200.
it feels just superb when i'm firing it, and the sound is just something to behold. the concrete walls and aluminium drums never know what hit them :D
the most fun rifle i've ever shot has got to be the Garand.
so, what about you guys?
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M1 & AK47, 12 gauge slugs are really nice as well.
Also love shooting clay pigeons, stationary targets get boring.
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I haven't shot much, maybe only six or seven rifles, but my favorites have to be my brother's 19fourtyorfiftysomething Polish Mosin
Nagant, and his PSL-54c.
I do love everything I've been able to fire though!
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:huh not mean at all :D
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most fun gun ive ever shot?
thompson at the twin city gun % rod range, you can burn thru 2 clips for 40$ and fire the garand for 10$ per clip.
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Either 12 gauge (I duck and pheasant hunt alot) or my dads 300(shot my first elk with that)
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:huh not mean at all :D
sometimes i inspire even myself :D
Either 12 gauge (I duck and pheasant hunt alot) or my dads 300(shot my first elk with that)
where do you hunt elk? i go to Montana every year w/ my uncle, been using a .308 ever since i joined ROTC. fun fun fun hobby
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AK-47, hands down. Once hit a squirrel with it, first shot of the day at my uncles house (about 7-8 acres), couldn't stop laughing.
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AK-47, hands down. Once hit a squirrel with it, first shot of the day at my uncles house (about 7-8 acres), couldn't stop laughing.
:rofl
if it's anything like hitting a chipmunk with a .260 Rem, i can only imagine that site!
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I'd have to give it to the .22, rifle or handgun doesn't matter. I know it's not very high on the "cool" factor, but the simple fact is that it's the only round that the average joe can afford to shoot all day long.
The bigger calibers are to me like serious tools, used for hunting, military or competition. The .22 is more like a fun toy, no real serious purpose behind it, just fun.
A close second would be a 12ga shotgun. Just because I love shooting skeet, trap, or sporting clays. Sporting clays is a lot of fun I think.
Blasting jackrabbits or prairie dogs with a 22/250 is lots of fun to.
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MK19......AT4........M2...... ..Pistols in general.......all other guns.
Thats my order :) live AT4s......nuff said :D
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.50 cal and the 3' 50"
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MK-19 or M-60
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sometimes i inspire even myself :D
where do you hunt elk? i go to Montana every year w/ my uncle, been using a .308 ever since i joined ROTC. fun fun fun hobby
Montana! Lol ironic
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MK19......AT4........M2........Pistols in general.......all other guns.
Thats my order :) live AT4s......nuff said :D
Yeah what he said, dont get no better than AT4s
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AK-74. Smoother and more accurate then a 47. AR-15s are good fun too.
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Does the 120mm main gun on the M1A1 count? Cause damn!!
On the wwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!
Target destroyed...cease fire.
Boo
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For me there's 2, my uncle owned them both, first was an Uzi, full not mini, that was a lot of fun to shoot, I was very surprised by how smooth it fired, almost no recoil, 2nd would be a .44 magnum with 9in barrel, now that thing had one hell of a kick to it, I was about 14 the first time I fired it, almost jumped right out of my hands.
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It would have to be my grandpas authentic Luger he had. This thing was beat to hell, it had a hair tie holding one side of the grip on, but you could feel the history with each shot.
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MK-19, Abram 120mm, bradley 25mm, M2 is rly fun2
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22 chipmunk @age 7
22 remington pump action @age9
20 gauge @ age 9
12 gauge @ age 10 :t my most fun moments of my hunting life :t
30-30 @ age 12 landed 1st n 2nd moose, 4 or 5 caribou, 1 Bear <SHHH!>
270@ age 16
30-06 @age 17
my pops had a 45cal pistol <wicked>
greens
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MK-19, Abram 120mm, bradley 25mm, M2 is rly fun2
No live AT4s? When we had our AT4 burn off in korea my CO said......"I be havin' that" :rofl
Seen an Abrams fire from a good distance away.....still felt it in my chest lol
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No live AT4s? When we had our AT4 burn off in korea my CO said......"I be havin' that" :rofl
Seen an Abrams fire from a good distance away.....still felt it in my chest lol
In my early years in the Navy I had been an EP2 Operator on a 5"/54 MK 45 Gun Mount for years and never appreciated the full force of the percussion until I was standing topside to hear it one day, :lol
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Rifle--- SigSauer SSG3000 (you can feel every hour the engineers at Sig put into it when you shoot that thing)
Full auto is a toss up---MP5 / Thompson
Shotgun--My Parker s/s and My Beretta Sporting Clays O/U
Handgun---- My EGW built IPSC .45 and my Ruger Superblackhawk ( scoped w/10 1/2"bbl ) always make me smile.
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AK-47, hands down. Once hit a squirrel with it, first shot of the day at my uncles house (about 7-8 acres), couldn't stop laughing.
You kill small animals with an automatic weapon and laugh? You scare me. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people owning guns and protecting themselves (my youngest daughter was held up at gunpoint several years ago in our local town). Immaturity and guns don't mix.
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My 3 band Enfield
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You kill small animals with an automatic weapon and laugh? You scare me. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people owning guns and protecting themselves (my youngest daughter was held up at gunpoint several years ago in our local town). Immaturity and guns don't mix.
Most people don't know how they would react if someone they knew was shot, being unsafe with any weapon makes me mad when I see it.
+1
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My dad's 1915 Mosin Nagant, an M-60 on full auto...had a blast with that bad boy and a folding stock AK-47.
Hands down the most fun weapons I have ever had the privilege of firing and cleaning.
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Well I wouldn't want to do it again, but I'm glad I got the chance to pull the trigger on a .300 weatherby mag once. I got back up off my butt, handed him his gun back and thanked him for the experience.
Not sure it really classify's as fun though.
Thompson Center Contender in .44 12" barrel shooting Silver dollar sized groups at 50 yards, that was fun.
Busting crows at 400 plus yards with .243 and handloads for sure rocked.
( boat tailed hollow points, 60 grain bullets, 30 grains of dupont 3031 screamed them out there)
Shooting a Jackrabbit in the head at 150 yards with a single shot from my Ruger 10/22 & iron sights ranks well up there.
Shooting a crow at 50 yards with a single shot from 22 pistol was good, not sure who was more surprised, him or me.
Putting a .45 round ball clean through a power pole with black powder rifle was an eye opener.
6 Partridges with 5 shots spaced so close together that my dad a 1/4 mile away said it sounded like one long roll of thunder was pretty fun too. Lots of good stuff over the years
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Well I wouldn't want to do it again, but I'm glad I got the chance to pull the trigger on a .300 weatherby mag once. I got back up off my butt, handed him his gun back and thanked him for the experience
:rofl I had the same experiance with a Rigby double rifle chambered in 500 Nitro Express,to this day i think my shoulder is still sore from it!! (I was wearing a Tshirt at the time, Darwin award winning move there )
I had the same reaction, handed it back to him, smiled and said thank you for letting me try it.(after explaining to him why his rifle should be on wheels and towed behind a jeep.) All the while trying to keep from screaming in pain.
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Hunting tree rats with a .22 semi-auto is the best! :aok
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M-61A1, 20mm.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-15-specs.htm
http://www.gdatp.com/Products/Gun_Systems/Aircraft/F-15.asp
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/F-15E_undergoing_maintenance_showing_gatling_gun.jpg/800px-F-15E_undergoing_maintenance_showing_gatling_gun.jpg)
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AK47 and FAL :rock
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I like to shoot my Browning 338 mag at long range targets.
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Probably my suppressed Colt M4 for a rifle, then my S&W 1006 for a pistol. A close second for the rifle would be my Marlin 30/30.
Most disliked would be a Charter Arms .44 Special with a 2" barrel. Yuck.
mir
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.50 Cal (I believe it was Barret) at Police get-together out here in CA. I don't know if they still do it or not but they did years ago.
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M1 Carbine is probably the most fun, IMO.
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4 rounds from a privately owned Boyes .55 ATR, black and blue for days.
110 rounds in 1 shoot of No 4 Mk1 Lee Enfield .303 at Wrekin Ranges before the whole army's stock was decommissioned. Black and blue again.
Ex argentine FN FAL 4 mags on full auto, that was just funny trying to get even the second round of the burst on target.
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Most fun fire arm is the one that your shooting at an exploding target on a few gallons of gasoline.
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Shooting minie balls out of a .50 black powder percussion rifle. Think it was a Hawken. The sound was
awful funny, and the recoil seemed alot softer than a 30-06. :lol
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I enjoy shooting my M249 SAW.
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Mk 19 Grenade Launcher
Barret .50 cal
M16a2
M1911 .45
but my fav is my personal
Desert Eagle Mark 19 .44 Magnum.
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AK47 for sure, second to a pistol on pistol grip, heat shield, extended tube pump 12 g.
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M120/121 120 MM Mortar.... M60/M2
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Most fun fire arm is the one that your shooting at an exploding target on a few gallons of gasoline.
Heh. Reminds of of the time we put one of those Coleman propane tanks in a bon fire and I nailed it with the Garand at ~90 yrds away.
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Almost forgot.......
Fired Uncle Joe's S&W Distinguished Combat Magnum. (.357)
Flames shoot out of the cylinder and it punches holes in 55 gal barrels.
Fired it ONCE without hearing protection. Had a headache for an hour.
WHAT? HUH? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
RRRRRIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg.
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M-61A1, 20mm.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-15-specs.htm
http://www.gdatp.com/Products/Gun_Systems/Aircraft/F-15.asp
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/F-15E_undergoing_maintenance_showing_gatling_gun.jpg/800px-F-15E_undergoing_maintenance_showing_gatling_gun.jpg)
We have a winner.
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Marlin model 60 semi-auto .22 LR (when I'm not using CCI ammo which jams every third round).
My Winchester model 70 .30-06 (sounds like a cannon, but when she's dialed in she's lethal)
Nefari's AK-47's (now I gots to get my own)
I'm sure my 1922 Mosin-Nagant will be on the list once the weather gets better. I haven't even fired it yet.
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I love to shoot my Garand. I've got a lot of guns including autos, but that is my absolute favorite and goes with me to the range every time I go. My favorite non gun to shoot was the Javelin... just wow.
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M1 Garand took me by surprize, for being used to shotguns I thought it would kick. Or be noisy. But it wasn't.
My fav is still my 12 gauge USSR Baical, single barrel. Makes a kaboom, kicks like a mule, and with proper ammo it will kill a soaring seagull who thinks it is out of range. muhahahaha.
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SKS
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forgot about the M14. sweet weapon
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Mac10
45 Win Mag
Belgian Browning Hi Power (I really wish I hadn't sold that)
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(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1371.snc4/164392_493390514737_519229737_5971518_4120250_n.jpg)
I would like to raise you:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs056.snc6/168644_494873189737_519229737_5994225_3273410_n.jpg)
:p
Russian M44. Props goes to Tupac for getting me hooked on his. The fireball, the sound, and the shockwave were so amazing, I decided I HAD to get one of my own. Two days later I stumbled on one at a gun show... and there she is! Definitely a favorite of mine because it gets EVERYONE'S attention at the range. They hear that crack and have to stop what they're doing and come over to ask about her. And because I own her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySVyP2APUow
Second is gonna be the SKS. Mostly because she's also mine.
Third goes to an M2 .50 for obvious reasons.
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I had a real sweet SKS but the AK's I had were better guns, same exact round but the SKS just couldnt let out the rounds as good, I had two 75 round drums for the AK's, hehe what a blast.
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I have fired a lot of firearms and I have to say that my newly purchased CVA Silver Trophy Hunter III is the most fun yet! I spent hours at the range Thursday firing this rifle. It is dead on balls acurate @ 250 yards.
The only problem at first was the actual firing of the rifle. You see it's a flintlock. I have a brown bess and you have to close one eye when firing that rifle because of the pan flash. With this CVA it directs the flash away from you. The rifle has a one second delay in actual firing time.
This rifle presents quite a challenge when hunting deer for the reaction time from pan flash to bullet exiting barrel makes for difficult shooting when the deer moves. I like a challenge though, Unlike some of these folks shooting deer with high powered rifles from 40 yards away, and they are 25 yards away from the 4X4 quad runner that brought them there.
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/Silver_cva_trophy_huntingIII.jpg)
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I had a real sweet SKS but the AK's I had were better guns, same exact round but the SKS just couldnt let out the rounds as good, I had two 75 round drums for the AK's, hehe what a blast.
I've got a Yugo SKS and I'm looking at getting an AK47 as a next gun. What type of SKS and AK did you use?
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This is classed as a firearm in England so I think it counts.
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/Xbow.JPG
homemade from scrap wood and a leaf spring from an old van.
Much Fun!
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L1A1..... I remember in training...it was the first weapon we were to shoot...the instructor told us to place our cheek on the stock to steady our eye for the site.....hahahaha so many bruised cheeks..
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BANG!
:D
(http://www.drumgodserver.com/gallery/data/media/8/LeeEnfieldNo.4.jpg)
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Bump fired my buddies 3 shot semi 12 gauge. knocked me back a step!!
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(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130-spectre-44.jpg)
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Serenity~the SKS was chinese made, it would jam if I pulled trigger as fast as I could, coulda been the cheaper ammo though,now we are going back a ways, this was about 14 years ago, the AK's I friggin cant remember who made em, I do know they were not true russian AK's, mac90's come to mind, they are the exact same thing as AK's, as far as I know, just not made in Russia, 7.62 same as the SKS, IM Not really big into guns, im more of a sword and Battle Axe kinda guy :-) I got a sick bat winged battle axe, carbon steel, thing will go through a car door, or whatever else you so desired hehe
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(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130-spectre-44.jpg)
i've had the pleasure to see one of those in action as well.
KA-BOOM
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Depends on the fun I was looking for...
For IPSC and IDPA shooting it was a custom Colt 1911 chambered for .38 Supers. Complete with mag funnel, red dot, 20 round mags when legal and a light trigger. The barrel was ported and had a stiff spring for ultra fast cycle with hot ammo. This gun was borrowed and I even got a chance to try the speed draw holster. The few tries I did get were in the 9 second range for an El Presidente. Thats a draw, two shots each at four targets, reload, two shots each, reload, and two more shots at four targets.
My personal gun was a .40 Glock 24C, fully compensated with my own hot loaded ammo for good muzzle control. Was pushing 9 grains of Accurate 7 behind a 140 grain hollow point. The case was absolutely filled to capacity, and prevented a double charge as I was only 14-16 at the time.
For long range shooting its a Remington Sendero with factory barrel and mil dot Night Force 5-22.5 variable scope. The gun was optimized for accuracy and had some of the best hand loads in the country. I could describe the process behind the ammo work up but its a small novel. The ammo itself was full hunting load, 200 grain Accubond pushed 3200 FPS by nearly 100 grains of Varget. The best part, it weighed 13 pounds with a Harris BiPod attached and did not need a benchrest. In fact I personally watched deer taken just shy of 1300 yards, across a valley from a card table. In high winds (15 mph cross) I shot a 3/8ths inch group at 300 yards with a rear sand bag and the bipod.
At one point this gun shot twenty four, yes 24, 4" clay pigeons at 700 yards in a row!!!!
I am in the delivery room for my second boy and all is quiet for now but I better get going!
Strip
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congrats Strip on the new baby, enjoy him:-) ~Paul
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We have a winner.
Heck, we had an F-4 jock use that one just by switching the Master Arm switch off safe....two days in a row!...
at the end of the runway! Those squirrels never knew what hit them :D First day, 1 second burst, 100 rounds.
Day 2, 125 rounds into the treeline. They decided to put it down for MX after that.
Turns out it was a bad relay in the armament control panel, no idea how long the gun was hot because it was
normally pinned up. They had planned to take it down to the range at Eglin for some strafing.
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Heck, we had an F-4 jock use that one just by switching the Master Arm switch off safe....two days in a row!...
at the end of the runway! Those squirrels never knew what hit them :D First day, 1 second burst, 100 rounds.
Day 2, 125 rounds into the treeline. They decided to put it down for MX after that.
Turns out it was a bad relay in the armament control panel, no idea how long the gun was hot because it was
normally pinned up. They had planned to take it down to the range at Eglin for some strafing.
At least it wasn't an up-canted gun like the F-15... Woulda lofted them quite some distance.
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Thompson Contender Pistol in 30-30
Buddy has a Calico...even though is 22 its fun as shi@
M4 Rock River Operator
My Dads old Charter arms Bulldog pistols in 44spc
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I've got a Yugo SKS and I'm looking at getting an AK47 as a next gun. What type of SKS and AK did you use?
If you are looking at AKs do some real research. There are a bunch of different types based on Yugo, Polish, Chinese, Egyptian, Bulgarian, East German parts kits and that's not all of them. Then it's stamped recievers, or milled.
I'd suggest spending some time on the AK forum. You can learn a lot.
http://208.109.209.156/
My son was the AK nut and he started with a Romanian SAR1, then moved on to a Polish PKMS underfolder built by In Range. He also had an AK103, and a Krebs Custom AK74
He was in the same boat. Money. Started with the cheap one, but ended up saving his pennies for the Krebs, which was his nicest AK. I have 3 AK kits that I hope to have built in time as my younger son grows up. Two are Polish underfolder kits and the other is a Bulgarian AK74 kit.
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the MA Deuce is my baby girl.
Along with the 240 Bravo (and Golf)
The 249 sucks
The M16 rocks until it gets dust on it, then it jams
M4 sucks
M1 Garand is one of (if not #1) my favorite weapons of all time. I would rather use it in Afghan than my M16.
M14 is nice.
The MK19 is fun as well...until it jams
203's can be fun to watch
And the minigun makes you feel like God.
The STG 44 was AMAZING to fire.
MP40 was OK
The Thompson was a lot of fun
K98 was epic as was the Mosin and Lee Enfield (bolt actions rock)
Black powder rifles are always a blast :P
Gah - so many! I'm lucky to have been able to experience all of these fine weapons....well...mostly fine weapons. (BOOO 249!) :D
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lee enfield. smooth recoil but loud as heck.
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lee enfield. smooth recoil but loud as heck.
My choice of weapon in the original Medal of Honor series
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(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130-spectre-44.jpg)
showoff :noid
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I would have to say my BAR 270 . I just love this gun .
http://s1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/mrFlench/?action=view¤t=S2010017.mp4
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If you are looking at AKs do some real research. There are a bunch of different types based on Yugo, Polish, Chinese, Egyptian, Bulgarian, East German parts kits and that's not all of them. Then it's stamped recievers, or milled.
I'd suggest spending some time on the AK forum. You can learn a lot.
http://208.109.209.156/
My son was the AK nut and he started with a Romanian SAR1, then moved on to a Polish PKMS underfolder built by In Range. He also had an AK103, and a Krebs Custom AK74
He was in the same boat. Money. Started with the cheap one, but ended up saving his pennies for the Krebs, which was his nicest AK. I have 3 AK kits that I hope to have built in time as my younger son grows up. Two are Polish underfolder kits and the other is a Bulgarian AK74 kit.
Thanks Guppy! As always great info! I'm checking the forums now. I won't have enough money for a new AK for at least a month or two, so I've got plenty of time to study!
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It's funny, I might be the only one I know who didn't like firing the AK-47 as much as other rifles. Everything about it feels sloppy, the sound it makes, it's build, the bolt, etc. It's also the only gun that jammed on me that day, caught the end of the shell in the bolt, apparently called a "stovepipe jam" because of how it looks or something. I guess that's why it's so reliable in mud and sand, though; low tolerances.
However, right after I shot a .308 R700 and fell in love with that immediately. A) I like bolt actions, and B) The kick really lets you know how much lead you are throwing down range. Just very solid and fun to shoot (It also had a bi-pod and a scope... Ooooh boy, I felt so tactical and professional :D).
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I have fired a lot of firearms and I have to say that my newly purchased CVA Silver Trophy Hunter III is the most fun yet! I spent hours at the range Thursday firing this rifle. It is dead on balls acurate @ 250 yards.
The only problem at first was the actual firing of the rifle. You see it's a flintlock. I have a brown bess and you have to close one eye when firing that rifle because of the pan flash. With this CVA it directs the flash away from you. The rifle has a one second delay in actual firing time.
This rifle presents quite a challenge when hunting deer for the reaction time from pan flash to bullet exiting barrel makes for difficult shooting when the deer moves. I like a challenge though, Unlike some of these folks shooting deer with high powered rifles from 40 yards away, and they are 25 yards away from the 4X4 quad runner that brought them there.
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/JadgTankker/Silver_cva_trophy_huntingIII.jpg)
Flintlocks are a blast! They're the only ignition-type black powder firearms I've owned for the past 25 years!
It sounds like you have something wrong with your lock, though. Your Brown Bess (I have one too) shouldn't have anywhere near a one-second delay, and your new rifle should have a much faster ignition than your Bess... You may have some issues with the bevel of your flint, or how it's mounted, or (quite commonly) with how you prime the pan. If you're using any of the modern synthetic powders, those will cause ignition delays and problems with a flintlock as well. If you haven't already done so, switch to real black powder.
Your accuracy at 250 is how good? What type of groups are you getting? With what type of projectile and powder? Doing that good with a poor-performing lock??? And what type of sights? I can't see the front blade, but if it has a bead along the top it should completely cover a garbage can at 250 yards, which isn't conducive to pin-point accuracy.
It's not a widely-known fact, but a well-tuned flintlock can actually have faster ignition than a percussion lock. The hype over slow-ignition is due in large part to poorly-loaded firearms in historically-themed movies (I loved The Last of the Mohican's, but it had some very inaccurate portrayal of the firearms of that period. Over-primed pans and silk patches, for example). As far as challenge... As someone who shoots flintlocks competitively, the difficulty of accuracy with these weapons is radically over-stated as well. It mainly comes down to how it's loaded, the components used, and just plain good shooting form and technique.
As an example, here's a real-time clip of one of my flintlock's showing a more-realistic ignition sequence. I have it in slow-motion too if anyone's interested (1/2 and 1/4 speed).
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/th_Flintlockrealtime.jpg) (http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/?action=view¤t=Flintlockrealtime.mp4)
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It's funny, I might be the only one I know who didn't like firing the AK-47 as much as other rifles. Everything about it feels sloppy, the sound it makes, it's build, the bolt, etc. It's also the only gun that jammed on me that day, caught the end of the shell in the bolt, apparently called a "stovepipe jam" because of how it looks or something. I guess that's why it's so reliable in mud and sand, though; low tolerances.
However, right after I shot a .308 R700 and fell in love with that immediately. A) I like bolt actions, and B) The kick really lets you know how much lead you are throwing down range. Just very solid and fun to shoot (It also had a bi-pod and a scope... Ooooh boy, I felt so tactical and professional :D).
Yeah, the low tolerances are what make them durable. I'm starting on the commie guns for that very reason. I don't have to have absolute perfect maintenance in order to not do permanent damage, which is important because I'm still learning about gun cleaning and maintenance, etc, and I don't want to use the wrong type of lubricant, go to the range and have an FTF.
As far as yours jamming was it an AK? Or was it a cheap WASR-10. The WASR-10s are, from my research, the lowest quality you can buy.
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In the army I had a change to fire this baby.
Suomi KP/-31
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Submachine_gun_Suomi_M31.jpg)
Wikipage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomi_KP/-31
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In the army I had a change to fire this baby.
Suomi KP/-31
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Submachine_gun_Suomi_M31.jpg)
Wikipage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomi_KP/-31
They've got one of those up on the wall at a local gunshop. Was just wondering what it was! Thanks!
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I had a lot of fun with this baby too!
Built it from scratch, apart from the barrel which was made by a friend of mine. It fires 1" balls, weighs about 80lb. 1/3 scale of a civil war 6# gun.
Smoothbore, so accuracy isn't superb. It's capable of hitting water-filled garbage cans out past 300yards though, which is a hoot! It'll put a softball-sized hole in a tree at 200yards. We also played around shooting 10 or so .50 lead balls out of it at a time (at water-filled metal buckets, mostly). And frozen hot dogs, a fishing lure, "C" batteries, and a few other experimental projectiles.
Alas, I dreamed of building another (better) one, so I sold it a few years back. I made most of the metal parts on my forge. My next one will have better, dished, wheels. I'm going to build a limber for it right away too.
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A friend of mine had a German MG34, configured for semi-auto fire only. However, it was having "issues" and every couple of trigger pulls it would rip off a half-dozen to a dozen at full auto. Ain't nothing brings a smile faster than an MG on full auto! :banana:
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At least it wasn't an up-canted gun like the F-15... Woulda lofted them quite some distance.
Everything about that Eagle was big :aok Just out of curiousity, you guys even use the 30mm pod?
Not sure what kind of F-15s you drive.
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They've got one of those up on the wall at a local gunshop. Was just wondering what it was! Thanks!
Your warmly welcome.
This is a legendary WW2 weapon here in Finland.
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This is a very very well known WW2 movie in here. It shows how the fins were dealing with enemy trench's by using Suomi KP and grenades.
With English sub titles:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Unknown+Soldier+(novel)&aq=f
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Yeah, the low tolerances are what make them durable. I'm starting on the commie guns for that very reason. I don't have to have absolute perfect maintenance in order to not do permanent damage, which is important because I'm still learning about gun cleaning and maintenance, etc, and I don't want to use the wrong type of lubricant, go to the range and have an FTF.
As far as yours jamming was it an AK? Or was it a cheap WASR-10. The WASR-10s are, from my research, the lowest quality you can buy.
No, it was an AK. Apparently those types of jam's are fairly common, I don't own it though, so I can't comment on how much it happens from experience.
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MK19......AT4........M2........Pistols in general.......all other guns.
Thats my order :) live AT4s......nuff said :D
Oh that ma-deuce is a blast, just point and push the button. Probabley my favorite all-time gun I have ever shot-but-will-most-likely-never-have-the-oportunity-to-shoot-again.
My personal favorite is skeet with my dad's over-under 16 guage, my favorite shotgun guage that is unfortunatley on the verge of extinction. We have an agreement in his will, he gets to be buried with his 12 ga. if I get to keep all the 16s. :D
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I never got to fire one of these, but it looks like a hoot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx7AfAyEies
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I never got to fire one of these, but it looks like a hoot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx7AfAyEies
Anzio Ironworks makes a 20mm Mag-Fed sniper rifle...
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I used to train butter bars how to use this pretty little baby
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/LAW011.jpg)
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Everything about that Eagle was big :aok Just out of curiousity, you guys even use the 30mm pod?
Not sure what kind of F-15s you drive.
I flew the F-15E. We never flew with any sort of gun pod, just the internal 20mm. Supposedly there is a new 20mm system being developed but I don't know if it will ever get fitted to anything. The F-15E gun system is a bit weak (plastic rollers in the feed system, believe it or not) and if the gun isn't "exercised" routinely, it will often jam and break the feed system after a hundred or so rounds. It was never supposed to be a system we used all the time, but the gun got used a lot in Iraq and Afghanistan so they had to re-think the system so it would be more reliable. Not sure if they came up with anything really different other than maintaining it better though.
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No, it was an AK. Apparently those types of jam's are fairly common, I don't own it though, so I can't comment on how much it happens from experience.
Do you know what kind of AK is what he's asking. a Wasr-10 is a low end imported AK SAR-1s were also low end. As with any rifle the quality of the work makes a difference. Same thing applies to AR-15s. You can spend a little and get little or spend a lot and get more with spots everywhere in between.
Any AKs in the US are imported and most likely are built on US built recievers by any number of countries. You used to be able to buy kits that included everything but the reciever but in the last couple years those kits don't include the barrel so you have to purchase a US built barrel and then find a good gun smith to put the thing together for you.
My son's first AK was an SAR-1 and he learned a lot about AKs with that one. It was also, for lack of a better word, the sloppiest of his AKs in terms of tolerances and reliability. The custom built AK-74 he had done is an absolute beauty and shoots really well. The PKMS underfolder he had built on a US reciever with a Polish kit is somewhere in between.
Problem is when folks say AK they think it's all the same, and it's not.
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Do you know what kind of AK is what he's asking. a Wasr-10 is a low end imported AK SAR-1s were also low end. As with any rifle the quality of the work makes a difference. Same thing applies to AR-15s. You can spend a little and get little or spend a lot and get more with spots everywhere in between.
Any AKs in the US are imported and most likely are built on US built recievers by any number of countries. You used to be able to buy kits that included everything but the reciever but in the last couple years those kits don't include the barrel so you have to purchase a US built barrel and then find a good gun smith to put the thing together for you.
My son's first AK was an SAR-1 and he learned a lot about AKs with that one. It was also, for lack of a better word, the sloppiest of his AKs in terms of tolerances and reliability. The custom built AK-74 he had done is an absolute beauty and shoots really well. The PKMS underfolder he had built on a US reciever with a Polish kit is somewhere in between.
Problem is when folks say AK they think it's all the same, and it's not.
Nah, no idea as it was my buddy's gun. However, I do recall him saying he put down a a lot on it, so I'd hope it'd be something at least average. I suppose what you say holds true to any gun. My experience seemed to match up with what I've read about them, however.
Like I said, I was just stating my experience, so take it with a grain of salt. Who knows, the next one I shoot might be even more solid than the R700 and AR we were shooting.
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I have to go way back 30 years to when I was about 7 years of age, and me and my dad was out hunting..
After a long days walk my dad decided it was about time I got to try the 10 gauge shotgun, to get a feel of it.
So he found a spot where I could safely fire a shot, and told me to have a go at it. :x
The gun was a Marlin Firearms Shotgun model 5510 Original Super Goose 10 Gauge loaded with Magnum ammo, and it was too heavy for me to hold steady. So my dad placed his backpack on the ground and set the gun ready for me on top of it.
I went down on my knees and grabbed hold of the gun and aimed for a pine tree not too far away, with about 4" trunk size where I aimed at it.
When I pulled the trigger the gun raised so hard it went out of my hands and I rolled onto my back, but I registered the tree trunk got split in two in a cloud of woodchips just before I went down. And when I looked back at the tree it seemed like it was still standing at first, but it had actually moved about 3feet away off its treestump and landed straight down into the ground in perfect balance. It took a few seconds before it finally tilted over and went down.
I have shot that gun many times later, but I never forget that first time and the huge impression it left on me..
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My personal favorite is skeet with my dad's over-under 16 guage, my favorite shotgun guage that is unfortunatley on the verge of extinction. We have an agreement in his will, he gets to be buried with his 12 ga. if I get to keep all the 16s. :D
Agree about the 16 gauge . I had one , well still do up at mother's . It's a 16 gauge pump by JC Higgins (spelling?) That I shot skeet for year's with and it was the best shooting shotgun I ever shot . I wore it smack out .
Had a sweet 16 gold trigger that I wore smack out too and sold . Wish I had it back .
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Gotta be the M-1 Carbine. Serious gun but light and pleasant to shoot. Better than most handguns but not as formidable as many rifles, a classic carbine.
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lol just looked at the time and remembered a sweet gun I fired 444 marlin, lever action, that was an awesome rifle had a massive boom.
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I have to go way back 30 years to when I was about 7 years of age, and me and my dad was out hunting..
After a long days walk my dad decided it was about time I got to try the 10 gauge shotgun, to get a feel of it.
So he found a spot where I could safely fire a shot, and told me to have a go at it. :x
The gun was a Marlin Firearms Shotgun model 5510 Original Super Goose 10 Gauge loaded with Magnum ammo, and it was too heavy for me to hold steady. So my dad placed his backpack on the ground and set the gun ready for me on top of it.
I went down on my knees and grabbed hold of the gun and aimed for a pine tree not too far away, with about 4" trunk size where I aimed at it.
When I pulled the trigger the gun raised so hard it went out of my hands and I rolled onto my back, but I registered the tree trunk got split in two in a cloud of woodchips just before I went down. And when I looked back at the tree it seemed like it was still standing at first, but it had actually moved about 3feet away off its treestump and landed straight down into the ground in perfect balance. It took a few seconds before it finally tilted over and went down.
I have shot that gun many times later, but I never forget that first time and the huge impression it left on me..
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Sweeeet shotgun your dad has/had there. And now you know why some of my fondest teenage memories during my age 16 and 17 summers was of teaching the shotgun merit badge to much younger (and smaller, scrapyier, and - my personal favorite - the overconfident loud mouths) scouts. You can tell who the idiots are that didn't pay attention to my first lecture and wouldn't likely pass, so I'd always select them first to shoot infront of the rest of the class and then give them the choice of the 20 or 12 ga... most those wise-guys that chose the 12 ga. wouldn't even bother coming back the next day they'd be so embarased, lol.
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I used to train butter bars how to use this pretty little baby
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/LAW011.jpg)
The LAW Launcher!!! I do not dispute that you taught men how to use them... but... could you teach them to hit what they were aiming at with it (beyond like 50 yards)? :devil
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Sweeeet shotgun your dad has/had there. And now you know why some of my fondest teenage memories during my age 16 and 17 summers was of teaching the shotgun merit badge to much younger (and smaller, scrapyier, and - my personal favorite - the overconfident loud mouths) scouts. You can tell who the idiots are that didn't pay attention to my first lecture and wouldn't likely pass, so I'd always select them first to shoot infront of the rest of the class and then give them the choice of the 20 or 12 ga... most those wise-guys that chose the 12 ga. wouldn't even bother coming back the next day they'd be so embarased, lol.
It is always fun to watch a young bigmouth firing off a 12ga shotgun for the first time, often resulting in a sore shoulder. :lol
One mistake often done by newbies is not keep a firm pressure against the shoulder before firing, which will leave quite a bruise after a few rounds with the 12ga.
The 10ga will probably do the same, but instead of slamming into your shoulder in a split second it seems to give you more of a hard push.
When I shot both the 12ga and the 10ga after one another I noticed it was hard not to take one step backwards after pulling the trigger with the 10ga. If I did not stand properly secure one foot infront of the other and slightly leaning forward I would have to take one step backwards for sure. The 10ga is alot heavier, so that alone would give it alot of push. But you sure feel a big difference in power alone when comparing the two.
It sure is a fine shotgun the big Marlin, and I don't think there is too many of them around either. Atleast not here in Norway. :cheers:
Here's a picture of the shotgun, its not my dad's old gun but a pic of the same type. :cool:
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x320/FearFactor_photos/mvc-011s_jpg_thumbnail1.jpg)
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The LAW Launcher!!! I do not dispute that you taught men how to use them... but... could you teach them to hit what they were aiming at with it (beyond like 50 yards)? :devil
I had a big ol bus out on the range, hard to miss,, yet about half of them would every time!
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have to say the 240G bout the funnest Ive shot(replacement for the M-60) But then you attach it to this thing called the Balckhawk and it turns into a whole other game. :devil
http://www.mediafire.com/?b8wnd2tt5br3w3w (http://www.mediafire.com/?b8wnd2tt5br3w3w)
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lol just looked at the time and remembered a sweet gun I fired 444 marlin, lever action, that was an awesome rifle had a massive boom.
My dad has a lever action .444 Marlin that we shoot from time to time. Big bada boom!
I remember the first day we shot it... I felt like a lumber jack choppin down all those poor trees. The .444 ammo is around $35 a box now, so we use it pretty sparingly anymore.
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jager~ya even back then the ammo was expencive, was a friends gun, man that thing was awesome, we were shooting at golf balls from about 80 yards, funny my wife was the only one to hit one lol
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Zu-23-2 :aok