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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: NormH3 on January 11, 2011, 02:49:56 PM
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Still trying to get a sense of the community here. Why is it that some will only fly for one of the 3 countries? Seems too me on any given day, you are flying with different folk anyway.
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some are big on chess piece loyalty....I and many others are loyal to the fight and go where the fight is, dont worry about the ones that call ya "spy" just enjoy the fight.
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Never understood it myself Norm. I get a chuckle when I shoot a squaddie down or vice versa. Of course where you can usually find me country doesn't really matter.
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They gave us ""purdy hats"" (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/50.gif)
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Norm,
don't listen to them... they are many 'characters' who play this game... some of which have privately and personally sworn eternal allegiance to chess pieces. I know, it sounds ludicrous, well because it is, but its the truth....
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My Squadron have always flown Knights. We just do. As far as flying with different folks everytime, it seems to be the same old Pigs everytime I login. :headscratch:
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My Squadron have always flown Knights. We just do. As far as flying with different folks everytime, it seems to be the same old Pigs everytime I login. :headscratch:
not entirely true, we went on vacation for a while....
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not true, we went on vacation for a while....
Yeah, but that was more like trying to get away from a psycho ex-girlfriend! :lol
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I would imagine it helps with immersion for basetaking types if they just stick with one country, I wouldn't call that "ludicrous." Spying accusations ARE ludicrous though, as what little spying there is probably isn't being done by side-switchers.
I don't switch because my squad doesn't switch but I'm all in favor of it. Quite nice to have guests over. Except that the Nits never wipe their feet...
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I would imagine it helps with immersion for basetaking types if they just stick with one country, I wouldn't call that "ludicrous."
I think there are a few base taking squads that switch every months to a new chess piece....
As for most, they just stick to the side that their squadies are flying, and don't care beyond that. ..
and most 'spy' accusations are because people fail at their game goal and are too egotistical to take responsibility for their own personal failure thus they blame others...
That being said, late at night or during 'off hours' side witching is often necessary if you actually want to play AH against another player and most of the 'spy' accusations are going to come from people who only enjoy fighting auto ack and view your desire to play with others as 'ruining their fun'.
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Some of us enjoy being labeled as "Spiz".
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The way I look at it is that perhaps the best thing about this silly little game is the friendships that develop around it. If I flew only on one side I wouldn't get to fly with or have met 2/3rds of the people I count as friends in this game.
I will now sit back and wait for a squaddie or someone else to come along and point out that no one really likes me and I have no friends. :)
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Still trying to get a sense of the community here. Why is it that some will only fly for one of the 3 countries? Seems too me on any given day, you are flying with different folk anyway.
Ive seen people that are so chesspiece loyal, they wont even switch if they go to the TA or DA :lol
Having 3 countries consistently does bring out good competition but sadly people take it too far. People that are loyal and only fly with one country are more prone to think that the red guy is nothing but evil and should be in the tower at all cost. I can bet that if they ever get a chance to fly WITH their nemesis', they would see that the guy is probably the nicest guy to fly with.
Some feel as switching would "betray" fellow green guys so they just dont do it, which is absurd in a video game.
Best advice I can give which will bring a refreshing prospective to most squads that stick with one country is to tour each for a month as a squad to see how others fly and meet the guys on "the other side". They will enjoy it. You are 100% right Norm..we are ONE community here enjoying the same game, not 3. :aok
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Some of us enjoy being labeled as "Spiz".
i R t3h l34d 5p1z0r
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:noid
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I would imagine it helps with immersion for basetaking types if they just stick with one country, I wouldn't call that "ludicrous." Spying accusations ARE ludicrous though, as what little spying there is probably isn't being done by side-switchers.
I don't switch because my squad doesn't switch but I'm all in favor of it. Quite nice to have guests over. Except that the Nits never wipe their feet...
You RT guys need to wing up with us on rooks. That way I wont have to get that eye twitch whenever I see a 1A :D
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There are a number of schools of thought.
Some folks hold no loyalty to any side and you will see them changing sides, sometimes every 45mins or hour. They have their own reasons.
Some of the old-timers (like myself) prefer to pick a side and stick with it. I flew knights for 6 years. A year ago the squad majority voted to go rooks and we have been there ever since. It's nice to log on each time and fly with the same guys because you know they can trust you and you know you can trust them. It's also nice to get to know a side, how they plan, organize, what makes them tick, etc. They know you will do the best to help them and we know they will do their best to help us. I really enjoy that aspect. There's a lot of mutual respect to that.
But like others say fly all sides awhile and then pick the side you are most confortable with...or not...your choice.
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I have flown for Green ever since I got here, and I'll never switch.
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I think its easier for squaddies to log in and know where yer buds are. For those not in a squad its easier to just stick to a side so you dont have to go through all that hassle of clicking a window. Ya, some of us are THAT lazy.
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Each to their own. :aok Do your thing & enjoy it
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In order to stay in the good light you must always fly with the Bishops. For evil and darkness prevail in Rookland and Knightland. In Knightland, there is a clan called the Pigs that must be stopped at all cost. Failure to do so will allow them to reproduce and a pig nation will form devastating everything in its path..
For your own safety and well being. Never cross over to the other side.... :salute
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Some of the old-timers (like myself) prefer to pick a side and stick with it. I flew knights for 6 years. A year ago the squad majority voted to go rooks and we have been there ever since. It's nice to log on each time and fly with the same guys because you know they can trust you and you know you can trust them. It's also nice to get to know a side, how they plan, organize, what makes them tick, etc. They know you will do the best to help them and we know they will do their best to help us. I really enjoy that aspect. There's a lot of mutual respect to that.
The thing I don't get, is from what I've seen, as far as 'sides' go, there's no quantifiable difference between how they operate. Different squads and individuals, absolutely, but when it comes to the actual countries, I see no difference on the whole. Not meaning any disrespect, that's just what I've observed.
The only slight 'country' tendency I've noticed is, for some reason the knights seem to have a greater percentage of guys who think the knights attracts more of the guys who like just fighting until they're dead, as opposed to hording and whatnot. I didn't say I've noticed the percentage is actually higher, but just the guys think it is. The other thing I've noticed is it seems to me the majority of the time Knights have the lowest numbers. Never quite gotten why that is...
Wiley.
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Started as a knight and stay as a knight. we are always being horde and enjoying the challenges.
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You RT guys need to wing up with us on rooks.
Oh yeah Tralf, the LM-RT squad night. I'll remind Boss, we need to make that happen. Be fun <<S>>
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Many factors contribute, but for the most part its the need to be in a comfort zone.
Get out and meet and greet, there are wonderful players on all sides. :aok
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Some of us are just to old, fat, and lazy to go to the effort to click the buttons to switch.
Fred
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You RT guys need to wing up with us on rooks. That way I wont have to get that eye twitch whenever I see a 1A :D
Oh yeah Tralf, the LM-RT squad night. I'll remind Boss, we need to make that happen. Be fun <<S>>
Yeah Lynchmob/Rolling Thunder fighter sweeps
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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The thing I don't get, is from what I've seen, as far as 'sides' go, there's no quantifiable difference between how they operate. Different squads and individuals, absolutely, but when it comes to the actual countries, I see no difference on the whole. Not meaning any disrespect, that's just what I've observed.
The only slight 'country' tendency I've noticed is, for some reason the knights seem to have a greater percentage of guys who think the knights attracts more of the guys who like just fighting until they're dead, as opposed to hording and whatnot. I didn't say I've noticed the percentage is actually higher, but just the guys think it is. The other thing I've noticed is it seems to me the majority of the time Knights have the lowest numbers. Never quite gotten why that is...
Wiley.
True. You will also notice what goes around comes around. You might find more people looking to shoot down planes more exclusively on the lower numbered team for a variety of reasons. It seems certain countries tend to have lower numbers for extended periods of time, however, over time these numbers have a tendancy to switch. As they do, attitudes about the country change with it. My observation.
to original poster, do what is fun, just a game. Switching sides is a great way to meet new people, and at times nme's :D. Anyway, you will see loads of people saying they will never switch, and then notice a couple months later they will do just that. On the other hand, you will find some who will never switch, though that is quite rare.
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Being strenuously committed to a particular chess piece in a 3-sided team oriented cartoon game is a cold hard sign of noobery. Pure and simple. NOOB.
"Sticking with one county" as it were, takes the standard level of rash ridiculousness by which we are all simply guilty and amplifies it on a order of magnitude of 10.
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You can switch sides??!!
Seriously though, the DHBG are perma-Bish, so that's why you'll only see me on the Bish side
Salute
Steely
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Some of us enjoy being labeled as "Spiz".
(http://seriousnerd.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dont-always-play-spy.png)
In the TFC we go where we feel, but typically we are on the Bish. No particular reason though.
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Meh, just having the loyalty to my country gives me more of a feel for the simulation. Gives me the ability to get a little ticked off at 1 specific country and makes me want to do better.
Overall dogfight doesn't do that for me. :)
Just my .02
(http://seriousnerd.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dont-always-play-spy.png)
In the TFC we go where we feel, but typically we are on the Bish. No particular reason though.
:rofl :rofl
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(http://seriousnerd.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dont-always-play-spy.png)
In the TFC we go where we feel, but typically we are on the Bish. No particular reason though.
:rofl
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Why do some people (who aren't from NYC) root for the Yankees and others the Red Sox? Why don't people change favorite teams every few days or weeks?
When I played Little League ball the team assignments were essentially random. There was no real difference between the teams, at least not any more than the variety among players on any one team. Any kid could have played for any of the teams and nothing much would have been different. Still, everyone was expected to be loyal to his own team and to fight hard at all times for that team to beat the others. Anyone who didn't was looked on with contempt. Why? Because team loyalty is one form of sportsmanship. Even at the age of eight that wasn't hard to understand. And it made league play more fun and more intense than pick-up games.
School teams aren't that different. Are the students at State really all that different from those at Tech? Are the players? Aren't the players at both schools more like each other than any of them is like the general student body or the fans? But we still have loyalty for our own school.
One reason I've lost interest in the NFL is the players move around way too much. You don't know who half the guys are, you don't know who you're supposed to be rooting for this year or next. There's no continuity, no loyalty. The coaches change way too often as well. And the teams themselves move too often too. No loyalty by anyone. Why should I cheer for a bunch of random guys I've never heard of, or half of whom I cheered against last season?
How many people here were in the military? Didn't you have pride in your own unit? The guys in the other units are all on the same side too, they're really no different from you, but you want your unit to excel, to be the best. Then you're transferred to another unit and you want that one to be the best. That competition, that sense of pride, are a large part of what drives excellence. Would any units be as good if they randomly reshuffled personnel every day or two?
Tribalism is human nature. When it comes to teams in games it's harmless, even beneficial if it makes people play harder and enjoy the game more. it only becomes harmful when people start to hate those on the other side(s) or associate membership on one team or another with moral superiority. The stakes are much lower in Aces High than they are in the military or even in college football, but the basic principle at work is the same. You fight for the team you're on. You may change teams at some point. When you do, you fight for that team. And you take pride in your team.
If you play enough you will come to know the people on your side better. It becomes fun to fly with the same people, especially if you're in a squad and even more so if you have other squads you like to work with. It isn't loyalty to "a chess piece" any more than it was loyalty to a team color or mascot in Little League, it was and is loyalty to your teammates - not because they are different in nature from those on the other teams, but just because they're your teammates.
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vLoki, we are not asking why do people stick to one side, I think the original posters post was in response to people verbally attacking him in game in game for side switching. Sure, if you have developed some sort of 'team' culture with the 85+ players on you country, then good, but what gets nuts is attacking someone as if they have committed some egregious offense for exploring a different country, esp if they are new.
So you have developed camaraderie with your country mates, which I find hard considering beyond my squaddies I don't know 90% of them and unlike a military unit or sports team, I have never met them nor do I really know them at all, but irregardless... congrats, but that doesn't, in no way, give anyone a license to accuses others of 'spying' or whatever BS some foolishly feel justified to do. AND THIS IS ESP TRUE WHEN ITS DIRECTED TO A NEW PLAYER.
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The way I look at it is that perhaps the best thing about this silly little game is the friendships that develop around it. If I flew only on one side I wouldn't get to fly with or have met 2/3rds of the people I count as friends in this game.
I will now sit back and wait for a squaddie or someone else to come along and point out that no one really likes me and I have no friends. :)
<points> nah, not going to do it....:)
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Why do some people (who aren't from NYC) root for the Yankees and others the Red Sox? Why don't people change favorite teams every few days or weeks?
When I played Little League ball the team assignments were essentially random. There was no real difference between the teams, at least not any more than the variety among players on any one team. Any kid could have played for any of the teams and nothing much would have been different. Still, everyone was expected to be loyal to his own team and to fight hard at all times for that team to beat the others. Anyone who didn't was looked on with contempt. Why? Because team loyalty is one form of sportsmanship. Even at the age of eight that wasn't hard to understand. And it made league play more fun and more intense than pick-up games.
School teams aren't that different. Are the students at State really all that different from those at Tech? Are the players? Aren't the players at both schools more like each other than any of them is like the general student body or the fans? But we still have loyalty for our own school.
One reason I've lost interest in the NFL is the players move around way too much. You don't know who half the guys are, you don't know who you're supposed to be rooting for this year or next. There's no continuity, no loyalty. The coaches change way too often as well. And the teams themselves move too often too. No loyalty by anyone. Why should I cheer for a bunch of random guys I've never heard of, or half of whom I cheered against last season?
How many people here were in the military? Didn't you have pride in your own unit? The guys in the other units are all on the same side too, they're really no different from you, but you want your unit to excel, to be the best. Then you're transferred to another unit and you want that one to be the best. That competition, that sense of pride, are a large part of what drives excellence. Would any units be as good if they randomly reshuffled personnel every day or two?
Tribalism is human nature. When it comes to teams in games it's harmless, even beneficial if it makes people play harder and enjoy the game more. it only becomes harmful when people start to hate those on the other side(s) or associate membership on one team or another with moral superiority. The stakes are much lower in Aces High than they are in the military or even in college football, but the basic principle at work is the same. You fight for the team you're on. You may change teams at some point. When you do, you fight for that team. And you take pride in your team.
If you play enough you will come to know the people on your side better. It becomes fun to fly with the same people, especially if you're in a squad and even more so if you have other squads you like to work with. It isn't loyalty to "a chess piece" any more than it was loyalty to a team color or mascot in Little League, it was and is loyalty to your teammates - not because they are different in nature from those on the other teams, but just because they're your teammates.
Some of us grew out of that and found out that good people are good people wherever and that in the end, since no one really dies, and no one really wins or loses beyond the fun they have, it really doesn't matter which chess piece you fly for. But to each his own. Neither way is wrong, and those that switch or those that stick to a side shouldn't be condemned for it.
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I fly Rook because the few friends I've made online are Rook as well.
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<points> nah, not going to do it....:)
I passed on it earlier ;)
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Why do some people (who aren't from NYC) root for the Yankees and others the Red Sox? Why don't people change favorite teams every few days or weeks?
When I played Little League ball the team assignments were essentially random. There was no real difference between the teams, at least not any more than the variety among players on any one team. Any kid could have played for any of the teams and nothing much would have been different. Still, everyone was expected to be loyal to his own team and to fight hard at all times for that team to beat the others. Anyone who didn't was looked on with contempt. Why? Because team loyalty is one form of sportsmanship. Even at the age of eight that wasn't hard to understand. And it made league play more fun and more intense than pick-up games.
School teams aren't that different. Are the students at State really all that different from those at Tech? Are the players? Aren't the players at both schools more like each other than any of them is like the general student body or the fans? But we still have loyalty for our own school.
One reason I've lost interest in the NFL is the players move around way too much. You don't know who half the guys are, you don't know who you're supposed to be rooting for this year or next. There's no continuity, no loyalty. The coaches change way too often as well. And the teams themselves move too often too. No loyalty by anyone. Why should I cheer for a bunch of random guys I've never heard of, or half of whom I cheered against last season?
How many people here were in the military? Didn't you have pride in your own unit? The guys in the other units are all on the same side too, they're really no different from you, but you want your unit to excel, to be the best. Then you're transferred to another unit and you want that one to be the best. That competition, that sense of pride, are a large part of what drives excellence. Would any units be as good if they randomly reshuffled personnel every day or two?
Tribalism is human nature. When it comes to teams in games it's harmless, even beneficial if it makes people play harder and enjoy the game more. it only becomes harmful when people start to hate those on the other side(s) or associate membership on one team or another with moral superiority. The stakes are much lower in Aces High than they are in the military or even in college football, but the basic principle at work is the same. You fight for the team you're on. You may change teams at some point. When you do, you fight for that team. And you take pride in your team.
If you play enough you will come to know the people on your side better. It becomes fun to fly with the same people, especially if you're in a squad and even more so if you have other squads you like to work with. It isn't loyalty to "a chess piece" any more than it was loyalty to a team color or mascot in Little League, it was and is loyalty to your teammates - not because they are different in nature from those on the other teams, but just because they're your teammates.
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Why do some people (who aren't from NYC) root for the Yankees and others the Red Sox? Why don't people change favorite teams every few days or weeks?
When I played Little League ball the team assignments were essentially random. There was no real difference between the teams, at least not any more than the variety among players on any one team. Any kid could have played for any of the teams and nothing much would have been different. Still, everyone was expected to be loyal to his own team and to fight hard at all times for that team to beat the others. Anyone who didn't was looked on with contempt. Why? Because team loyalty is one form of sportsmanship. Even at the age of eight that wasn't hard to understand. And it made league play more fun and more intense than pick-up games.
School teams aren't that different. Are the students at State really all that different from those at Tech? Are the players? Aren't the players at both schools more like each other than any of them is like the general student body or the fans? But we still have loyalty for our own school.
One reason I've lost interest in the NFL is the players move around way too much. You don't know who half the guys are, you don't know who you're supposed to be rooting for this year or next. There's no continuity, no loyalty. The coaches change way too often as well. And the teams themselves move too often too. No loyalty by anyone. Why should I cheer for a bunch of random guys I've never heard of, or half of whom I cheered against last season?
How many people here were in the military? Didn't you have pride in your own unit? The guys in the other units are all on the same side too, they're really no different from you, but you want your unit to excel, to be the best. Then you're transferred to another unit and you want that one to be the best. That competition, that sense of pride, are a large part of what drives excellence. Would any units be as good if they randomly reshuffled personnel every day or two?
Tribalism is human nature. When it comes to teams in games it's harmless, even beneficial if it makes people play harder and enjoy the game more. it only becomes harmful when people start to hate those on the other side(s) or associate membership on one team or another with moral superiority. The stakes are much lower in Aces High than they are in the military or even in college football, but the basic principle at work is the same. You fight for the team you're on. You may change teams at some point. When you do, you fight for that team. And you take pride in your team.
If you play enough you will come to know the people on your side better. It becomes fun to fly with the same people, especially if you're in a squad and even more so if you have other squads you like to work with. It isn't loyalty to "a chess piece" any more than it was loyalty to a team color or mascot in Little League, it was and is loyalty to your teammates - not because they are different in nature from those on the other teams, but just because they're your teammates.
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Perhaps AKAK can shed some light on this issue since he is a die hard for queen and chess piece kind of guy. You only fly Knights right AKAK?
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Still trying to get a sense of the community here. Why is it that some will only fly for one of the 3 countries? Seems too me on any given day, you are flying with different folk anyway.
Because some enjoy flying for one side, there is nothing wrong with that just as there is nothing wrong with those that like to switch around.
ack-ack
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Because some enjoy flying for one side, there is nothing wrong with that just as there is nothing wrong with those that like to switch around.
ack-ack
+1 :aok
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Perhaps AKAK can shed some light on this issue since he is a die hard for queen and chess piece kind of guy. You only fly Knights right AKAK?
Nope, I'll switch when the mood suits me and it's usually when the sides are lopsided. Since I've moved back to the LW arenas this last summer and the time that I usually fly, the numbers aren't really all that much out of balance were I need to switch to help even things out all the time. I'll also switch if I can't find a fight on my side and will switch to whichever side I can find a fight on or if ENY keeps me from upping a P-38J. When I was primarily in the MW arena, guys like me and Shuff would usually switch sides 2-3 times a night as the gaps between numbers fluxuated far more than in the LW arenas. I also switch for SAPP nights if I get home early enough to make it. Hell, I've even switched sides to fly with the Muppets (think before you joined, when Skyrock was still active) and other squadrons for the night.
Please try and do better next time, over all this was a very weak effort.
ack-ack
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There are a number of schools of thought.
Some folks hold no loyalty to any side and you will see them changing sides, sometimes every 45mins or hour. They have their own reasons.
Some of the old-timers (like myself) prefer to pick a side and stick with it. I flew knights for 6 years. A year ago the squad majority voted to go rooks and we have been there ever since. It's nice to log on each time and fly with the same guys because you know they can trust you and you know you can trust them. It's also nice to get to know a side, how they plan, organize, what makes them tick, etc. They know you will do the best to help them and we know they will do their best to help us. I really enjoy that aspect. There's a lot of mutual respect to that.
But like others say fly all sides awhile and then pick the side you are most confortable with...or not...your choice.
Same here. Im chesspeice loyal.
Same reasons. I just want to pick a team and stick with it. Doing that I always see alot of the same faces. And typically I know who I can trust and hopefully they know they can trust or count on me to help if I can.
I tend to shy away from players I dont know because I dont know if I can trust them. So untill I do. I dont.
Its also something of an immersion thing for me that started back in Airwarrior. the only time I've ever changed countries (scenarios not included) When Az showed me I couldnt trust them as teammates. I switched to Bz and the Az were my sworn enemy the rest of my time there.
Here. I just like being part of one country, one team. Its a certain kinda code of honor for me. A concept lost these days on many.
Nothng wrong with bouncing around if thats what you like to do. So long as your actually fighting and not simply changing sides to take over a shore battery so it cant be fired. I really dont care what anyone else does
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I been Rook loyal for whatever reason.. Who cares really.. If you fly special events of most any kind you'll wind up flying with and meeting folks from all sides.. One of the best things about special event IMHO.. :cheers:
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Don't think its chess piece loyalties, more of the line of flying around friends in your squad or friends you have made in that country, that comfort feeling i guess, sure it may limit you to making other friends from the other countries only if you choose so, FSO's and other Scenario's are also a great way to meet new people and make new friends, the Game is what you make out of it, i strive for Fun in this game and Lately i have been having more Fun than i have had in a few years
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Nope, I'll switch when the mood suits me and it's usually when the sides are lopsided. Since I've moved back to the LW arenas this last summer and the time that I usually fly, the numbers aren't really all that much out of balance were I need to switch to help even things out all the time. I'll also switch if I can't find a fight on my side and will switch to whichever side I can find a fight on or if ENY keeps me from upping a P-38J. When I was primarily in the MW arena, guys like me and Shuff would usually switch sides 2-3 times a night as the gaps between numbers fluxuated far more than in the LW arenas. I also switch for SAPP nights if I get home early enough to make it. Hell, I've even switched sides to fly with the Muppets (think before you joined, when Skyrock was still active) and other squadrons for the night.
Please try and do better next time, over all this was a very weak effort.
ack-ack
Wha? I wasn't making an effort to do anything other than shed light on why you are loyal to Knights. Thanks for the novel-like explanation though.
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Wha? I wasn't making an effort...
I'm sure you say that now that you realize that it was nothing more than a wasted effort on your part. It's okay though, sometimes we can learn from our failures like I hope you just learned from yours.
why you are loyal to Knights.
Again, another failed effort on your part (that's two in as many posts). Am I going to see a hat trick out of you before the day is over?
ack-ack
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I'm sure you say that now that you realize that it was nothing more than a wasted effort on your part. It's okay though, sometimes we can learn from our failures like I hope you just learned from yours.
Again, another failed effort on your part (that's two in as many posts). Am I going to see a hat trick out of you before the day is over?
ack-ack
AKAK, you explained the exceptions when you deviate from Knightland, but the reality is, you are probably knights more than 90% of the time. I have never seen you online when you were not Knights. Okay, I take that back, maybe once in the past few years. We're talking Late War btw.
Why are you getting so defensive about favoring Knights? It's not a big deal, there are a lot of players that do the same. I was just wondering why you prefer Knights? Do they have better water or something?
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if you limit yourself to one side your missing out plain and simple, 99% of those that switch are doing it for the fight, ive been in a fight were I was way out numberd, before ya know it we are the hourd, so I switch and fight besides the guys I was just fighting, and you can bet if I see someone who needs a chk6 ill give to him, even if he just sent me to the tower, ive had many see me and say damn INK glad to see you green instead of red, no way is "wrong" untill you try to dictate what others do.
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Norm,
don't listen to them... they are many 'characters' who play this game... some of which have privately and personally sworn eternal allegiance to chess pieces. I know, it sounds ludicrous, well because it is, but its the truth....
AHHAHAHAHAHA!! at eternal allegiance. funny as hell. " I " FLY with whatever chess piece i wanna, when i wanna, with whoever i wanna, i chat with whoever i wanna, i invite whoever i wanna <2 the squad>, i die when i wanna :D
:salute greens
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I have flown on all 3 sides over the years. Most of the squads that I have flown with since starting have stuck with that country. There have been a few exceptions where the squad I was with changed for ENY, end of tour rotation, or just to do it to have more fun. I've met great people on all sides and really don't have much preference to which chess piece I'm flying for as long as I'm having fun with the squad I'm in.
:salute to all who I fly with and against.
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Same here. Im chesspeice loyal.
Here. I just like being part of one country, one team. Its a certain kinda code of honor for me. A concept lost these days on many.
I'm the same way Dred. These days, with the evolution of the 'console mentality' where it seems ok to switch when convenient instead of sticking to one side in a fight for better or worse, it's a rare concept to understand and embrace.
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Flying exclusively on 1 side is like an old comfy pair of underwear, or big snuggly blanket. It's nice for old guys like myself, and just feeels good.
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All in all, side switching doesnt matter. There are great people in all three countries. The reason most dont switch is that by the time they take hold in one country, they are comfortable seeing the same names over and over again. friendships begin.
The reason the 20th FG "Loco Busters" does not switch from Bishops is because we have dedicated ourselves, not to the country, but to the members of that country. If we left Bishops, those that we leave behind will not have our help anymore (and sometimes they &$%#(!^ need it :aok ). We dedicate ourselves to helping the people of the Bishops (if you notice, the 91st has left to the rooks but the 20th FG will switch to help them out on Saturdays for the escorts. We switch back immediately afterwards).
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So 321BAR...you're saying that the squad is "chess piece loyal"....:devil
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Sometimes when Bar post something I'm feel embarrassed that he is from Massachusetts like me. Of course I'm sure there are times when he feels the very same way because of me :D
I understand the "country loyalty" thing. Years ago when I was CO of the Mafia, we were Bish, and Bish only. However we NEVER had any rules about not switching countries. Squads that do that are childish, and anyone who would join a squad that had such a rule and FOLLOWED it would be foolishly cutting out a large portion of players that potentially they could have fun flying with.
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some are big on chess piece loyalty....I and many others are loyal to the fight and go where the fight is, dont worry about the ones that call ya "spy" just enjoy the fight.
spy!
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I understand the "country loyalty" thing. Years ago when I was CO of the Mafia, we were Bish, and Bish only. However we NEVER had any rules about not switching countries.
Squads that do that are childish, and anyone who would join a squad that had such a rule and FOLLOWED it would be foolish...
So...you think peeps that try to play a game with friends and are loyal to one side are foolish? Childish? Weird..i'd think the opposite were true. Those that change sides more often than underwear in order to gain advantage/score/whatever are the ones who should be described that way. Those loyal to a 'team' shouldn't be ridiculed. I would find it odd in a football game for our running back to switch to the other side for any reason; leave the dance with thems that brought ya.
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Sometimes when Bar post something I'm feel embarrassed that he is from Massachusetts like me. Of course I'm sure there are times when he feels the very same way because of me :D
I understand the "country loyalty" thing. Years ago when I was CO of the Mafia, we were Bish, and Bish only. However we NEVER had any rules about not switching countries. Squads that do that are childish, and anyone who would join a squad that had such a rule and FOLLOWED it would be foolishly cutting out a large portion of players that potentially they could have fun flying with.
What a pompous statement. In the past you sat in a box to play a game and yet you call others childish. :bolt:
Fred
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If your part of a team (squad) then be part of that team. Squads make rule for themselves that they choose. If you do not like that squads rules. If you really want to be in or part of a squad You fnid a squad who's rules you do like. Or just freelance squadless.
That being said as for jumping countries in general. I think that you should only be allowed to change countries once per tour.
and/or
The only exception would be to change to a country with the lowest numbers
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Flying for one side limits the usefulness of your shades and the score padding abilities they provide. :noid
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Sorry Dred, but in the past I've seen some squads do their best to "dictate game play". So I enjoy the ability to switch. But I don't get ADD about it and feel the need to switch every hour.
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well..I appreciate all the responses. My question came about because I've seen several posts where people are looking for a squad but are willing to only fly for country "X". Sorta makes sense now...to each his own I guess.
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That being said as for jumping countries in general. I think that you should only be allowed to change countries once per tour.
and/or
The only exception would be to change to a country with the lowest numbers
(http://sparksheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/yet-another-loyalty-program.jpg)
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how could anyone give a rat's bellybutton if someone jumped countries? I still don't get it.
I also enjoy the subtle jabs at people who switch.. "i stay one country = honor", which implies you have no honor if you switch. it's as silly as someone who would say "i only fly american planes, because I'm american".. ok, thats fine, but you really are restricting yourself for no good reason. ITS A GAME.
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how could anyone give a rat's bellybutton if someone jumped countries or not? I still don't get it.
I also enjoy the subtle jabs at people who switch.. "i stay one country = honor", which implies you have no honor if you switch. it's as silly as someone who would say "i only fly american planes, because I'm american".. ok, thats fine, but you really are restricting yourself for no good reason. ITS A GAME.
:aok 100% agree, but did add a small edit.
Fred
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When I first log on, I look at the numbers and then at who appears to need help the most (it's not always the low-number side). Then I'll switch if I need to and help out. As the night progresses and/or fights dry up, I'll take another look. If I decide to switch I make it a point to try to not fight the guys I was just helping (unless the arena is so lopsided they're all that's left to fight - think EW/MW :D)
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So...you think peeps that try to play a game with friends and are loyal to one side are foolish? Childish? Weird..i'd think the opposite were true. Those that change sides more often than underwear in order to gain advantage/score/whatever are the ones who should be described that way. Those loyal to a 'team' shouldn't be ridiculed. I would find it odd in a football game for our running back to switch to the other side for any reason; leave the dance with thems that brought ya.
Comparing this game to football is a bit too far a stretch. I've never seen one football team have 3 times the number of players as the other and everyone being ok with that. Whats wrong with making friends on the other teams? It's much easier to do when your flying with them.
What a pompous statement. In the past you sat in a box to play a game and yet you call others childish. :bolt:
Fred
I know you guys are reading the statements, but do either of you comprehend WHAT you are reading? What I said was it's childish for a squad to make a rule that you can not switch sides. I that instance if your a bish and it's horde time and you don't feel like being the 10th guy in on a single bogie your suppose to log off in stead because heaven forbid you switch sides and have some fun.
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I fly only Knights, for simple reason:
I don't fit in well with the Rooks
(http://gadgetress.freedomblogging.com/files/2009/11/the-wiggles-pic.gif)
funny looking fellows of questionable sexuality and odd accents....
or the Bish
(http://images.wikia.com/lotr/images/7/7f/Orcs_of_the_nesline.jpg)
vile filthy creatures all.
:rofl
Actually, my squad is Knight only as a rule, unless it's an unusual circumstance and the CO makes the call to do something different. It's an awesome squad, a great group of guys with whom I have had a ton of fun flying, and I have no problem what-so-ever with the rules. This game is what you make it, and you can take from it as much or as little as you want. I'm perfectly happy with not flying for the other two sides, and don't feel I'm missing a thing or care if anyone else thinks that opinion is short-sighted. :aok
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It just seems to me that if you're in favor of chesspiece loyalty, you immediately lose the right to complain about being outnumbered because if you wouldn't switch sides to even the numbers, why should anybody else?
Wiley.
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I switch countries so assbat will indulge my senses with his "trator" rantings :aok
JUGler
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ya comparing this too football or almost any other "game" is way off, since when does football have three teams? and as Fugi said have one team so out number the other teams....... comparing it to tne military is straight up laughable......its a friggin game, all sides are the same, same people trying to have fun, to say that its Honorable to stay on one side is, to put it bluntly stupid, im guessing those that said that will have no problem attacking one con with 5 to 10 friendlies, enjoy vulching, and other nefarious activities while in game, I am seeing a pattern here, it seems that those people take this GAME way to serious comparing it to the military HAHA Thats just so........heck i cant even think about the words to use.....idiotic comes to mind......absurd.....sad....p ick any one of those.....now I could understand that thinking if You really frigging DIED.....but gee our cartoon self is immortal and comes back every time with a nice new shiney plane. Whatever its your $15.........hahahaha
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So...you think peeps that try to play a game with friends and are loyal to one side are foolish? Childish? Weird..i'd think the opposite were true. Those that change sides more often than underwear in order to gain advantage/score/whatever are the ones who should be described that way. Those loyal to a 'team' shouldn't be ridiculed. I would find it odd in a football game for our running back to switch to the other side for any reason; leave the dance with thems that brought ya.
Many who change sides do so to avoid advantage, not to embrace it. That door swings both ways, you know.
Beyond that, this isn't football. In football, you can't change sides because it's against the rules. No such rules (or even norms of behavior) exist in AH, so your analogy falls flat.
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... to say that its Honorable to stay on one side is, to put it bluntly stupid, im guessing those that said that will have no problem attacking one con with 5 to 10 friendlies, enjoy vulching, and other nefarious activities while in game, I am seeing a pattern here, it seems that those people take this GAME way to serious comparing it to the military HAHA Thats just so........heck i cant even think about the words to use.....idiotic comes to mind......absurd.....sad....p ick any one of those.....now I could understand that thinking if You really frigging DIED.....but gee our cartoon self is immortal and comes back every time with a nice new shiney plane. Whatever its your $15.........hahahaha
You'd be wrong to equate ganging with not switching sides. And while side switching is fine, posturing about it and denigrating those who don't is pretty silly.
I understand the "country loyalty" thing. Years ago when I was CO of the Mafia, we were Bish, and Bish only. However we NEVER had any rules about not switching countries. Squads that do that are childish, and anyone who would join a squad that had such a rule and FOLLOWED it would be foolishly cutting out a large portion of players that potentially they could have fun flying with.
Well thanks Fugi :) For myself the real fun is flying against players, not with them. So the only downside is that I don't get to fight all the other Bish who never switch.
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good points Dead man.....
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I switch countries so assbat will indulge my senses with his "trator" rantings :aok
:rofl :rofl
ashat is a 'character' to say the least....
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Sorry Dred, but in the past I've seen some squads do their best to "dictate game play". So I enjoy the ability to switch. But I don't get ADD about it and feel the need to switch every hour.
I understand that. Which is why I said, if your (anyone) going to join a squad. You should join a squad who's rules you agree with.
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Still trying to get a sense of the community here. Why is it that some will only fly for one of the 3 countries? Seems too me on any given day, you are flying with different folk anyway.
Some folks like to limit their participation in the game.
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Some folks like to limit their participation in the game.
Explain please. Or is that just a cheap shot?
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shiv, I think he is saying playing on only one side is keeping you from experencing the full game, making friends on all sides,~fact is its all one side "Aces High" we are here to enjoy the game its not football, or baseball or the military(lol) its silly to think so narrow mindidly, you must stay on one side. Hell I very much enjoy fighting people that were just friendlies, and knowing them makes it that much better, if there always red you wont get to "know" them. ether way it is up to the individual on how he wants to play.
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shiv and I are stuck BISH, although stuck is a really wrong word.......... However with the likes of AoM, The FEW, 80th and such switching (for whatever reason), I have to agree with my Squaddie in thinking we aren't missing much. 60% of the population is just rabble........ The good folk either fly Bish once in a while or the good folk are the PM conversations with the recently dead. Not switching sides has little or nothing to do with full immersion in this game world we live in. Perhaps switching sides can help the timid in making friends, but not the people I enjoy flying with, or against. :salute
shiv, I think he is saying playing on only one side is keeping you from experencing the full game, making friends on all sides,~fact is its all one side "Aces High" we are here to enjoy the game its not football, or baseball or the military(lol) its silly to think so narrow mindidly, you must stay on one side. Hell I very much enjoy fighting people that were just friendlies, and knowing them makes it that much better, if there always red you wont get to "know" them. ether way it is up to the individual on how he wants to play.
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and some other guys will switch in the middle of a furball to get advantage. many guys that post blah blah help the low side blah blah to make more friends blah blah.. only switch to get advantage of the situation. I have been killed many times by some guy that is fighting next to me, save his but he lands then switches and kills me. and don't even mention the 262 guy that will switch in a heartbeat when he sees buffs upping.
switching to help the low side is all bs.
semp
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When the POTW took a vacation to the other sides about a year ago BBaw cried so pittifuly on 200 when I shot him down I couldn't stand it. So I voted to end the vacation.....or was it because he equated me to a baby seal newbie ankle humping bad wine drinking dweeb everytime he shot me down......hmmmmmmm..... :rolleyes:
Sides Shmides....you change countries and there's still red guys trying to kill you. They never seem to go away or get smaller in numbers. There is no magic side you can jump to, to make fighting the red guys easier. You still have to kill them one at a time.....
In the end we are all a red guy to someone in the game no matter the side............ :old:
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Cannot dispute your view completely but at the same time, helping the less populated country goes hand in hand with the perk bonus. Is it wrong if you are selfless in your selfishness?
and some other guys will switch in the middle of a furball to get advantage. many guys that post blah blah help the low side blah blah to make more friends blah blah.. only switch to get advantage of the situation. I have been killed many times by some guy that is fighting next to me, save his but he lands then switches and kills me. and don't even mention the 262 guy that will switch in a heartbeat when he sees buffs upping.
switching to help the low side is all bs.
semp
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haha.....ill im gonna say is more power to ya......haha have fun any way you enjoy the game
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shiv, I think he is saying playing on only one side is keeping you from experencing the full game, making friends on all sides,~fact is its all one side "Aces High" we are here to enjoy the game its not football, or baseball or the military(lol) its silly to think so narrow mindidly, you must stay on one side. Hell I very much enjoy fighting people that were just friendlies, and knowing them makes it that much better, if there always red you wont get to "know" them. ether way it is up to the individual on how he wants to play.
Well said.....err typed :neener:
LLogann, I wouldn't want to be friends with you any way, and the only reason to be on the same side as Shiv is so I don't get killed by his hog! :D
Seriously, it's a game and anyone PAYING to play the game should be able to experience ALL of the game. All of the vehicles, planes, and people. By sticking to one side your just limiting yourself, much like if you only stick to one plane, or one mission type (NOE with 40 of your closest friends :rolleyes: ).
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and some other guys will switch in the middle of a furball to get advantage. many guys that post blah blah help the low side blah blah to make more friends blah blah.. only switch to get advantage of the situation. I have been killed many times by some guy that is fighting next to me, save his but he lands then switches and kills me. and don't even mention the 262 guy that will switch in a heartbeat when he sees buffs upping.
switching to help the low side is all bs.
Obviously it's not all BS, or people here wouldn't mention it. The rest of the stuff you stated just brings a smile to my face. Those all seem like perfectly legitimate reasons to switch countries to me, other than you just don't think they're very sporting. Well, too bad.
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and some other guys will switch in the middle of a furball to get advantage.
Can you tell me the secret key for that? So far I have never been able to switch sides during a sortie...
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Can you tell me the secret key for that? So far I have never been able to switch sides during a sortie...
you just type
.spiezzzzz <chess piece>
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I know you guys are reading the statements, but do either of you comprehend WHAT you are reading? What I said was it's childish for a squad to make a rule that you can not switch sides. I that instance if your a bish and it's horde time and you don't feel like being the 10th guy in on a single bogie your suppose to log off in stead because heaven forbid you switch sides and have some fun.
Actually my reading comprehension is quite good. As you stated " it's childish for a squad to make a rule that you can not switch sides", so since the rules of a squad is made by it members, it implies that the members of said squad that made the rule are childish. I tend to use old Webster to define the words I write. We know from a previous thread you seem to have your own definitions.
You write as if when one side is hording it is the only fight on the map. I seem to be able to find actions all over the map when the various so called hording is taking place.
I could care less if someone switches sides or not. It has no effect on me, but to say I am missing something because I do not regularly switch sides is ridiculous. The people who do complain, either way, I just add to the whine list.
My Opinion
Fred
By the way Fug, how come when the Bishops are getting beaten down I never see you switch.? Maybe you do, but I play a lot and I don't ever recall seeing you fly Bishop. Just curious ....
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Cannot dispute your view completely but at the same time, helping the less populated country goes hand in hand with the perk bonus. Is it wrong if you are selfless in your selfishness?
That's pretty much the only reason I get the itch to change sides, is when our perk bonus is down in the 0.8 range or lower. I keep thinking of how much those red guys would be worth if I were on the other side...
So far I have never been able to switch sides during a sortie...
I heard it was Alt-F4, but I could be wrong. :)
Wiley.
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Seriously, it's a game and anyone PAYING to play the game should be able to experience ALL of the game. All of the vehicles, planes, and people. By sticking to one side your just limiting yourself, much like if you only stick to one plane, or one mission type (NOE with 40 of your closest friends :rolleyes: ).
Hehe. Fair enough. When I start gv'ing and flying anything other than a hog then I'll try switching sides :neener:
Seriously, I fly with the enemy enough in FSO and scenarios, etc. For the MA I've been flying Bish so long it'd be weird fighting any of the other long-timers. And I'd hate to be ack-dragged or ganged by an old friend.
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I dont really care why people switch. but making a statement that they switch to help the low side is bs, because it is untrue.
same as stating that not switching sides limits yourself. I hardly switch sides and then only to find a furball if there's not any on the knight's side. but as for finding friends, there's some guys I talk to that I have never flown with. you dont have to switch to make friends, or keep them.
Can you tell me the secret key for that? So far I have never been able to switch sides during a sortie...
here's the secret.
and some other guys will switch in the middle of a furball to get advantage. many guys that post blah blah help the low side blah blah to make more friends blah blah.. only switch to get advantage of the situation. I have been killed many times by some guy that is fighting next to me, save his but he lands then switches and kills me. and don't even mention the 262 guy that will switch in a heartbeat when he sees buffs upping.
switching to help the low side is all bs.
semp
you mistook furball for sortie
semp
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you mistook furball for sortie
A furball is a local area where a sustained and unstructured dogfight between several panes is taking place, with new arriving pilots replacing the ones being shot down. If you are "in the middle of a furball", you ARE in a sortie. You can't be in tower and in the middle of a furball at the same time. :neener:
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I dont really care why people switch. but making a statement that they switch to help the low side is bs, because it is untrue.
Except that it isn't untrue. The BKs used to do it all the time. Like I said, the door swings both ways here - people both leave to join the side with numbers, and people switch sides to fly for the side without numbers. It's probably not an even split, but a blanket statement declaring it untrue fails the fact check when a half dozen people in this thread alone have told you they switch to the side with lower numbers. In any event, nothing prevents people from switching sides for any reason, nor should it.
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Actually my reading comprehension is quite good. As you stated " it's childish for a squad to make a rule that you can not switch sides", so since the rules of a squad is made by it members, it implies that the members of said squad that made the rule are childish. I tend to use old Webster to define the words I write. We know from a previous thread you seem to have your own definitions.
Technically, it's the creator of the squad that makes the rule so he would be the one I'm calling childish. Were as those who agree to such a rule when they join are only foolish, is that better? :D
You write as if when one side is hording it is the only fight on the map. I seem to be able to find actions all over the map when the various so called hording is taking place.
When a horde forms it very often is that way...a heavy lack of fights. The bish will horde the rooks, the rooks will horde the knights, and the knights will horde the bish. Seeing as there really isn't any fighting when it comes to hordes (you either one of ten chasing down one guy, or your the one guy dodging the ten) fights dry up quickly. Finding a small number of guys trying to take a base only results in them going some place else after they get shot down because they don't know how to fight and are only looking to sneak a base quick.
I could care less if someone switches sides or not. It has no effect on me, but to say I am missing something because I do not regularly switch sides is ridiculous. The people who do complain, either way, I just add to the whine list.
My Opinion
Fred
By the way Fug, how come when the Bishops are getting beaten down I never see you switch.? Maybe you do, but I play a lot and I don't ever recall seeing you fly Bishop. Just curious ....
Real life has cut into my playing time. Saturday is the time I get to fly most often. 12-4 PM eastern is a lot of fun. More often than not a horde starts about 4, so until the change of arena comes it sucks. Then once the arena change happens things are good until 7-8 eastern and then game play falls off again as the numbers get up the hordes appear again. Most often when the hordes appear, its the Bish that are doing it first. Maybe they have more squads that run missions than the other two teams so it happens there first I don't know. So I don't switch to Bishops very often. I do when a few of my old Mafia buddies are on just to wing with them.
Just curious Fred, when do you fly?
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Ive flown all countries i personally prefer rooks my squad is rook but my guys can fly for other countries its not mandatory
as for me its just my choice simple
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Just curious Fred, when do you fly?
Pretty much all the time, but for quite a while I have been into GVing, but recently have started flying a bit more. Seven days a week unless I am out riding the bike or traveling. Some of my trips are two and three weeks long, so there are periods of time when I am not active, but I still get quite of few hours in even when I have been out of town a while.
I may be on at 4 AM, Noon, and/or evening. Being retired is hell, so I try to make do by playing a lot. :D I am pretty much off by 9 PM, getting old and need my beauty sleep. :lol
OH, by the way I still don't agree with your first two points, but I have had my say, so I will leave it at that, unless of course you want to continue. :devil
Fred
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HiTech should replace the sheep with cats when he finally puts them back in the game. Big herds of cats 20 feet tall with tails straight up another 20 feet to fly into.
For years weve gone into the MA and treated the place like herding sheep. Then come in here and complain because the sheep turn out to be cats and don't respond to the sheep herding. In fact we repeat the same litany of percieved moral offences almost back to the beginning of this BBS.
1. Bad Players HO as their only tactic.
2. Bad players don't switch to the low number sides.
3. Bad players are only interested in score.
4. Bad players don't check 6.
5. Bad players only pick and vulch.
6. Bad players only Lancstuka then ditch.
7. Bad players only sink CV's to kill fun furballs.
8. Bad players only shut down fighter hangers to kill fun furballs.
9. Bad players only fly in hoards to avoid 1v1 combat.
10. Bad players only fly in hoards to pick, vulch and pad their score.
11. Bad players only spawn camp with a tiger.
12. Bad players only bomb spawn campers.
13. Bad players don't turn fight my P38, A6m, spit, 109, 84, 61, camel etc...
14. Bad players run out 2 sectors in their 51 then come back to pick me.
15. Bad players switch sides to fly a 262 back through their own hoard.
16. Bad players run away instead of fighting my hoard by themselves.
17. Bad players run away to not get killed by better players.
18. Bad players join NOE hoards and take my feilds away from me.
19. Bad players take feilds in no descernable order and don't stay to fight.
20. Bad players don't want to play the game by the rules of Aces High conduct.
Yeppers, cat herding.
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I understand the "country loyalty" thing. Years ago when I was CO of the Mafia, we were Bish, and Bish only. However we NEVER had any rules about not switching countries. Squads that do that are childish, and anyone who would join a squad that had such a rule and FOLLOWED it would be foolishly cutting out a large portion of players that potentially they could have fun flying with.
Good lord.... :rolleyes:
It's in our only 3 requirements to join...squaddies feel the same way and agree up front before even getting the invite...and it only applies to the Late War Arenas. There are usually so few people on in the EW, AvA, MW, and WWI that it would be unfair to include those arenas in the rule. These are grown adults who feel this way/play this way of their own freewill.
We flew with knights exclusively for years. The squad voted overwhelmingly December 2009 to go rook---leaving 3 squaddies behind who refused to leave the knights. We have flown for the rooks ever since.
Our squaddies see this as more of a respect thing. If the squad voted to go someplace else semi-permanantly then that's where we go. The squad is a democracy--not a dictatorship. Rooks know the 77th is there for them and we know they are there for us. Our choice. Since we're base-takers the loyalty factor, at least to us, is all part of the game.
Our $15 bucks.
ROX
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and some other guys will switch in the middle of a furball to get advantage. many guys that post blah blah help the low side blah blah to make more friends blah blah.. only switch to get advantage of the situation. I have been killed many times by some guy that is fighting next to me, save his but he lands then switches and kills me. and don't even mention the 262 guy that will switch in a heartbeat when he sees buffs upping.
switching to help the low side is all bs.
semp
TBH I think you are just paranoid. You have blanket accused me of doing this numerous times and the only times it ever holds water is when I switch to fly rockets.
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no griz I have only accused you when you switch to bring a 262 to an area you noticed we were upping buffs then switched.
when I mention switching in fighters it's got nothing to do with you.
semp
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no griz I have only accused you when you switch to bring a 262 to an area you noticed we were upping buffs then switched.
when I mention switching in fighters it's got nothing to do with you.
semp
Maybe I switched because I was in a green horde. Usually there are buffs in hordes, they go hand in hand you know.
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The way I look at it is that perhaps the best thing about this silly little game is the friendships that develop around it. If I flew only on one side I wouldn't get to fly with or have met 2/3rds of the people I count as friends in this game.
I will now sit back and wait for a squaddie or someone else to come along and point out that no one really likes me and I have no friends. :)
I'll take the cue. Soulyss you don't have any friends and no one likes you anyway. Many times in my banter with Corky he has referred to you as "the bait". Was talking to Corky one night when you were trailing about 5 reds when Corky said "hold on..the bait is about to die". :devil :noid :neener:
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The reason I stick to one country is because it's fair. My squad is there also, which is more important. I'll switch if I want to and fly with other people but most of the time I stay on knights. Through the easy fights and through the hard fights.
Country hopping is essential for balance but it is also adverse to balance. If there were no loyalies then every time a 163 base was opened up everyone would be flocking to get some easy kills with the rockets.
Maybe bishops have cheap perk planes going, so some people always swap to fly them. If everyone swapped to fly them at the same time as jonny side swap does then the price of perk planes is going to skyrocket instantly.
Essentialy, alot of people who switch sides all the time to get an advantage of some kind when they make the choice. this is only possible for them because other people stay in one country most of the time.
There are also alot of people who do the exact opposite, in switching the the disadvantaged side when they make there choice, so I am not trying to label side switching in general. Just explaining how a % of side switchers only get that option due to a core base of players who stay on one team.
If the intent of the thread is to make everyone a side-switcher it could not possibly work.
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So 321BAR...you're saying that the squad is "chess piece loyal"....:devil
Sometimes when Bar post something I'm feel embarrassed that he is from Massachusetts like me. Of course I'm sure there are times when he feels the very same way because of me :D
I understand the "country loyalty" thing. Years ago when I was CO of the Mafia, we were Bish, and Bish only. However we NEVER had any rules about not switching countries. Squads that do that are childish, and anyone who would join a squad that had such a rule and FOLLOWED it would be foolishly cutting out a large portion of players that potentially they could have fun flying with.
Not chess piece loyal. loyal to the friends who choose to stay bishop :aok i used the 91st as an example of this. they moved rook, we still cover their big butts on saturdays :aok
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Always been a Rook, but the high alt. nose bleeds are getting to me. Might change sides, just to meet new people...
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If your on a side that has the numbers, switch sides and shoot em down, if it pisses them off : Bonus. :neener:
Its a game. :lol