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Title: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 21, 2011, 04:57:46 PM
moin

i have just seen a new sistem in world of tanks.
if you got a diconect you do have 2 minet to get back in game and you strad were you get diconected.

this would be a nice adition to AH, if you got dicoed your plane or tank just drive straig ahed until you are back in the game.
expeziale it woul be nice if we get this in spezial events, nothing is kills the fun more climbing 1 houer and get dicoed close to the target.

if this is posible in programming, what do you think?

cu christian
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Jayhawk on February 21, 2011, 05:02:05 PM
1)  Check the location everyone before you jump on the language, although it is painful to read.

2) No, sorry, this is just not plausible.  Can you imagine flying along before a contact just magically appears above you, behind you, etc.  Let's say a con is chasing you and you disco (or pull the plug).  He breaks off and starts heading home, all of the sudden you pop back up and he is either gone or two far away to make any difference.

If you're getting discoed to much, try and solve the problem with your internet.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 21, 2011, 06:12:34 PM
moin

no it doesn t work like that.

if you are in a dogfight with someone, and the enemy lost his conection. the enemy plane will just lvl and will flight straigt ahed until the dicoed person comes back.
you just abel to kill him, its just like a afk kill.
but he had a chance to come back in time.

and mostly we all have dicos out of a fight mostly we are fliing to a fight or we just rtb.

cu christian
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: AWwrgwy on February 21, 2011, 06:13:01 PM
2) No, sorry, this is just not plausible. Can you imagine flying along before a contact just magically appears above you, behind you, etc. Let's say a con is chasing you and you disco (or pull the plug). He breaks off and starts heading home, all of the sudden you pop back up and he is either gone or two far away to make any difference.

Do you disappear in WoT? If implemented as wished for, would you disappear in AH2?

If you would just fly along straight until you got back in, you would more than likely just be a free, AFK-ish target anyhow.

Also, if implemented, would it save your spot in a capped arena in order to get back in?

Otherwise, no. Just go poof like a man.


wrongway
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Jayhawk on February 21, 2011, 06:17:36 PM
Never played WOT, so I don't understand how it works.

and mostly we all have dicos out of a fight mostly we are fliing to a fight or we just rtb.

Data on that?  As more information is sent while people are closer, I would suspect actual discos per minute is going to be higher in a furball.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 21, 2011, 06:22:13 PM
moin

for example in the senarios there are alot of people geting discoed and and the frame ends for tham because thay are not able to catch the fight any more in time.
cant see why you guy doesn t like it.
other think, you driving your tiger home to base no enemy aroung and just poof. kills gone, perks goone, but if you are back in time you will sit again in you tiger and you are able to land.

or imagine the long bomber raids some peoples are doing, it is awful you are a part of a big mission and just poof.
dont tell me im the only one, this happens to everyone. some more and some less

cu christian
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: gyrene81 on February 21, 2011, 06:22:45 PM
no...nein...nyet...geen...nem a...non..nincs...aon...nie... nu...yok...dim..

disco is just something that happens once in a while... -1
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 21, 2011, 06:27:55 PM
 moin

you kiding????

ok you are lucky and it doesnt happens often to you.

imagine you will fly the new b29  you siting on the runway and just poof.
the oportunity to come back would be a nice option and it will not influence the game play in any why

btw. please chack any senario loc and you will see how many peoples are dicoed

cu christian
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Jayhawk on February 21, 2011, 06:29:53 PM
Yeah, it happens, but IMO it's not a big enough problem to warrant the effort implementing it.

Also, might want to learn to accept that not everyone will always like your ideas.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 21, 2011, 06:36:17 PM
 moin

sure, but
i just want to knew why thats all. only saiing its bad or not need isn t nice.

sure if its not a big problem as i imagine, HTC should work better at other thinks, thats right.

but maybe HTC is able to implement this think easy (do not knew) than it would be a small improvment or not?

cu christian
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Lusche on February 21, 2011, 06:40:45 PM
btw. please chack any senario loc and you will see how many peoples are dicoed

in late war arena tour, I found all players having  about 1 disco every 13 hours playing time, including an unknown number of self-induced disco's.

I do have about one disco every 20 hours myself.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 21, 2011, 06:47:22 PM
ok thats sounds realy not much

in the last frame battel over germany 21 people get discoed from 290 people.
5 of them was in my squad lol

maybe you guys understand now my wish, it would improve the game for these smal number.
if it is posible to made easy please do it if it is alot of programming i understand if not.

cu christian
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: DeadStik on February 21, 2011, 10:47:41 PM
I don't see what's the problem with this wish. So long as the plane or tank continues straight and level, I'm all for it! I mean, nobody can exploit this. I.E.

- You're running from someone and he's catching you.
- Uh oh! I think I'll just disco!
- You disco, plane keeps straight and level.
- Enemy kills you.

I only see a benefit from this wish. On the rare occasion I get a disconnect, I would LOVE to opportunity to jump right back in. Especially when I'm at 5k on climbout in a 262. I say you guys should consider this. It's a good wish.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Avanti on February 21, 2011, 11:35:43 PM
good wish +1
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: muzik on February 22, 2011, 12:01:05 AM
Very good wish. I would even say give us 5 minutes. I doesnt hurt anyone and only makes your "drone" an easy target. And as stated, no one can take advantage of it.

And on the customer satisfaction side. EVERYONE will be happy that they didnt die for nothing or lose their spot in a full arena with no chance of getting back in.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: SectorNine50 on February 22, 2011, 12:01:55 AM
Really good idea, got disco'd in the SEA this weekend, would have been nice to resume where I was cruising.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Tupac on February 22, 2011, 12:04:05 AM
He's saying that once you get discoed, the autopilot takes over and flies your plane until you get back (up to 2 mins)

Yes, he wants it to save your spot in the full arena.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Killer91 on February 22, 2011, 12:04:17 AM
I wished for this exact same thing a few months ago.

+1000000000000 from me!
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Noir on February 22, 2011, 02:06:02 AM
+1 :aok I rarely get discoed but I know people who do a lot.

It will benefit everyone as the player chasing the guy who gets discoed will get a free real kill and not a proxy  :banana:
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Ardy123 on February 22, 2011, 02:21:19 AM
+1
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Ghosth on February 22, 2011, 06:57:06 AM
I do both AH and WoT, what is possible in one is neither possible nor desirable in the other.

First off think about what it is your asking for, I mean really sit down and think.

If you made it possible to disconnect in AH without your plane dieing, and you can reconnect.
Then you also just made it possible for people to pull their internet cable, disconnect to avoid a fight, and reconnect.
Letting you back into the plane after he's given up. Really think that would be good for gameplay?

Do you See?

Bad news, do NOT open that door, don't ask for it to be opened.
AH is the way it is for a reason. HT knows what will work, and what won't.
He knows what opens holes to be exploited, and what closed them.

Work within the game to do as much as you can. But don't ask for the game to be changed to suit you.
Change yourself to suit the game.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Noir on February 22, 2011, 09:04:41 AM

Then you also just made it possible for people to pull their internet cable, disconnect to avoid a fight, and reconnect.
Letting you back into the plane after he's given up. Really think that would be good for gameplay?

Do you See?

that is not the request  :old: getting discoed won't allow you to avoid a fight, you'll be just afk level autopilot.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 22, 2011, 09:09:24 AM
moin

cant see that point, expecialy these people which want to pull thair cabel will die because his plane will fly ahed and nothing more, if thay are fast enough thay dont need to pull out thair cabel.
this will be god for everyone who is fighting these ugly persons.
because the other one will get a real kill for this person not a proxi for diconected.

Ah is in a developing proces since i joined the first time and it will be ever developed till his last days, Hitech created the game to his own wishes but he still lissen and get new ideas im sure.

cu christian

Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: SectorNine50 on February 22, 2011, 10:16:24 AM
that is not the request  :old: getting discoed won't allow you to avoid a fight, you'll be just afk level autopilot.

This!  In fact, you don't want this to happen, you'll become a sitting duck after you disco.  At least you'll be able to come back into SEA events when cruising and not be way behind on reconnection.

This request is awesome, and I really hope it gets implemented somehow.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 22, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
Do you disappear in WoT? If implemented as wished for, would you disappear in AH2?

In WoT you don't disappear and since your tank is still in the game world you can be killed.  I never knew WoT had this feature until the other day when my game crashed during the battle countdown and was able to log in and find myself still in the game world. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: dstrip2 on February 22, 2011, 03:11:24 PM
+1 for disco being treated like afk. doesnt happen often but ruins the fun when youve fought hard on a mission and disco with 4 kills while rtb. i HATE seeing 'host connection lost'. have to restart AH and recalibrate and hope i can get back in arena and dont get to land my kills all because the wireless network had a hiccup.  :cry

we do ask a lot of HTC though
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Flipperk on February 22, 2011, 05:07:46 PM
I do both AH and WoT, what is possible in one is neither possible nor desirable in the other.

First off think about what it is your asking for, I mean really sit down and think.

If you made it possible to disconnect in AH without your plane dieing, and you can reconnect.
Then you also just made it possible for people to pull their internet cable, disconnect to avoid a fight, and reconnect.
Letting you back into the plane after he's given up. Really think that would be good for gameplay?

Do you See?

Bad news, do NOT open that door, don't ask for it to be opened.
AH is the way it is for a reason. HT knows what will work, and what won't.
He knows what opens holes to be exploited, and what closed them.

Work within the game to do as much as you can. But don't ask for the game to be changed to suit you.
Change yourself to suit the game.


Incorrect analysis,

When you disco your plane is still eligible to be damaged and shot down, it will just be in autopilot while your reconnecting.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: gyrene81 on February 22, 2011, 05:48:51 PM
Incorrect analysis,

When you disco your plane is still eligible to be damaged and shot down, it will just be in autopilot while your reconnecting.
so when you finally reconnect and find yourself in tower...what you gonna do/say?

doesn't seem like it takes much to get someone to whine about something around here (not saying you would or not)...and this proposed "fix" would only be useful in special events...otherwise it's just another whine generator.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Mar on February 22, 2011, 06:41:39 PM
Ahem...

if you got dico'd your plane or tank will remain in the game and just drive straight ahead until you reconnect and retake control.

Modified for clarification.


This is a GREAT wish, but I do imagine that it would be a headache to code this system.

Here's to hoping that it can e done! :cheers:
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Debrody on February 22, 2011, 06:46:20 PM
That would be useful. My net blows, and i disco a lot.
Good idea.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Sid on February 22, 2011, 07:15:22 PM
+1  :aok
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: gyrene81 on February 22, 2011, 07:25:34 PM
i have to ask...have any of you "me likee" fellas really thought about this?

let's say you're in the lw and flying along grabbing alt looking for a good fight...or maybe you're bomtarding it...you disco  :joystick: ...restart  :huh ...log back in  :mad: ...find the arena  :rolleyes: ...jump back in...you're in tower? what happened?  :furious

someone came along and found your afk plane low, slow and level...decided to shoot it down for you...

did this new "feature" do you any good?

Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Mar on February 22, 2011, 07:27:24 PM
Would it do you any worse?
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Lusche on February 22, 2011, 09:15:47 PM
i have to ask...have any of you "me likee" fellas really thought about this?

let's say you're in the lw and flying along grabbing alt looking for a good fight...or maybe you're bomtarding it...you disco  :joystick: ...restart  :huh ...log back in  :mad: ...find the arena  :rolleyes: ...jump back in...you're in tower? what happened?  :furious

someone came along and found your afk plane low, slow and level...decided to shoot it down for you...

did this new "feature" do you any good?



This story has two possible outcomes: You come back, nobody shot your plane, you are still alive and can continue your mission. That's better than before
You come back, but find that someone had shot your afk plane and you are in tower. In thise case it's not worse than before, you had been "dead" anyway.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Flipperk on February 22, 2011, 09:45:51 PM
i have to ask...have any of you "me likee" fellas really thought about this?

let's say you're in the lw and flying along grabbing alt looking for a good fight...or maybe you're bomtarding it...you disco  :joystick: ...restart  :huh ...log back in  :mad: ...find the arena  :rolleyes: ...jump back in...you're in tower? what happened?  :furious

someone came along and found your afk plane low, slow and level...decided to shoot it down for you...

did this new "feature" do you any good?




I will ask you the same question


If this was not in effect then when you discoed and then came back guess where you will be....the tower (OMG!)


Again if you did not die guess where you will be...back where you started.


The only way is up for this option
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: phatzo on February 22, 2011, 09:49:55 PM
Mt experience with this in WoT is possitive, Its got to be better than how it is now. I discoed a trio of Bettys in FSO three weeks ago costing the team 25pts and was only a sector and a half from home.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: gyrene81 on February 23, 2011, 07:55:18 AM
Mt experience with this in WoT is possitive, Its got to be better than how it is now. I discoed a trio of Bettys in FSO three weeks ago costing the team 25pts and was only a sector and a half from home.
the difference in wot is that the tank does not keep going when you disco...it stops...the server does not have to continue tracking the vehicle as it moves then attempt to put you back in it when you get back in...
in wot you don't have 300+ people moving around on the same battleground, unlike ah...
you don't get kicked to the desktop when you disco in wot...



I will ask you the same question

If this was not in effect then when you discoed and then came back guess where you will be....the tower (OMG!)

Again if you did not die guess where you will be...back where you started.

The only way is up for this option
if you look at the big picture...behind the scenes and all...you will realize there is no way but down for this option
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 23, 2011, 09:12:44 AM
moin

i gues the only one who can tell us if it is posible or not is Hitech!

if it is not posible because of any reason its not nice but we will lif with that.
if it is posible it would be nice to ade because it will improve the game a bit.

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: lengro on February 23, 2011, 11:38:14 AM
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Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Bino on February 23, 2011, 02:11:06 PM
moin

i have just seen a new sistem in world of tanks.
if you got a diconect you do have 2 minet to get back in game and you strad were you get diconected.

this would be a nice adition to AH, if you got dicoed your plane or tank just drive straig ahed until you are back in the game.
expeziale it woul be nice if we get this in spezial events, nothing is kills the fun more climbing 1 houer and get dicoed close to the target.

if this is posible in programming, what do you think?

cu christian

I think I understand your motives, but IMHO there are simply too many ways for something like this to be exploited.

I do totally get your frustration with discos, though.  A couple tours back (LW #131) I had a perfect 40/40 sorties landed, and then two verfluchter discos.  And, even worse, just recently I ran afoul of a disco in an FSO frame (2011/02/18).  Grrr...

So, with respect, I must vote:   -1
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 23, 2011, 02:29:27 PM
moin

can you tell me how it can be used in a wrong way? i can t imagine any way?

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: phatzo on February 23, 2011, 02:31:22 PM
moin

can you tell me how it can be used in a wrong way? i can t imagine any way?

cu chris3
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Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Mar on February 23, 2011, 04:08:02 PM
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Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Flipperk on February 23, 2011, 06:17:23 PM
the difference in wot is that the tank does not keep going when you disco...it stops...the server does not have to continue tracking the vehicle as it moves then attempt to put you back in it when you get back in...
in wot you don't have 300+ people moving around on the same battleground, unlike ah...
you don't get kicked to the desktop when you disco in wot...


if you look at the big picture...behind the scenes and all...you will realize there is no way but down for this option

Please elaborate

First off IF you get disco two things happen:

A.) your plane gets shot down and you start back in the tower when you reconnect. Still a death regardless if you reconnected with or without this option.

B.) your in your B29/262 and you get a disco while climbing out to altitude. You have the ability to reconnect and pick up where the autopilot has taken you in the time since you lost connection.


I do NOT see how this can be a bad thing. Please tell us. Enlighten us. If you can bring up legit problems with this I will reconsider my position.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: gyrene81 on February 23, 2011, 06:47:56 PM
Please elaborate

First off IF you get disco two things happen:

A.) your plane gets shot down and you start back in the tower when you reconnect. Still a death regardless if you reconnected with or without this option.
that statement shoots itself down...if ending up in tower is the end result regardless of fix/no fix, then there is no need for htc to spend countless hours undertaking the monumental task of trying to code it properly, and address all the whines about it not working the way some know it all thinks it should...as there is no benefit one way or the other


B.) your in your B29/262 and you get a disco while climbing out to altitude. You have the ability to reconnect and pick up where the autopilot has taken you in the time since you lost connection.


I do NOT see how this can be a bad thing. Please tell us. Enlighten us. If you can bring up legit problems with this I will reconsider my position.
i'm just gonna take a guess and figure you don't understand the difference between an instance where the disco does not shut the game down and the object the client system was attached to comes to a dead stop...and an instance where the disco shuts the games connection to the server down completely and the object one was attached to does not remain stationary and forces the need for more information to be passed between the client and the server which puts a larger load on the server since every single client attached to the server (200 - 300+) has to be tracked...unless the toon gets shot down, then all the calculations get terminated until the client reconnects...


think server load, lag, bigger data streams, more instances of discoes...this "fix" goes beyond the end of ones nose

again...wot - 30 players max per battlefield
ah - hundreds

wot - tank stops on a disco
ah - can't stop a plane in mid air (unless you really want htc to code it that way)

wot - disco does not kill the game and disconnect the client system completely
ah - disco causes complete shutdown of game and connection forcing a restart
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: SectorNine50 on February 23, 2011, 09:09:09 PM
We already have a prediction system in game.  There is a reason airplanes warp when their connection is bad.  The server loses comms with disco'd client, and the client keep's their path where it was in the game, then when their connection becomes live again warps em to the updated location given by the server (often this is only one or two packets lost, so it happens very quickly over shorter distances).

In theory (grossly over-simplified), in the event of a disco, the server would maintain the plane's current track like usual (vectoring it level, and keeping it at a constant speed), and when the client re-connects, it can ask "is [username] vehicle active" server replies yes/no "if yes, altitude, heading, speed, etc" server replies and client picks up where it left off.  This isn't monumental stuff here, many games do similar things.

So long story short, the same amount of data is being sent to the client(s).  The only thing that happens on disco would be the sending client would drop, and that plane would fly until it hits something or gets shot.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Noir on February 24, 2011, 05:24:57 AM
the 'I can't be coaded' argument is only available to people that actually coad aces high. We are still waiting for a possible exploit scenario, I don't see any for now.

Such a system would make cartoon life so much better!
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Dantoo on February 24, 2011, 08:13:20 AM
Seems a great idea to me.  The system does this already and supports a disco of up to 30 seconds (if I recall correctly it was extended to that to fix another problem).  There may be a reason not to extend it further, but I haven't seen it posted in this thread.

The argument against implementation based on tracking is lost on me.  The system tracks you if you remain in game anyway, so it won't increase the server load outrageously just because it isn't successfully updating the position from your FE.  If you are having short term discos, the game realigns the position on the server with the updated position sent from the remote machine and currently it gives it priority.  You see this update as a "warp".  What is being called for, as I understand it, is that for a time between 30 secs and 120 seconds this priority is reversed and the remote machine is updated by the server.  The now un-commanded plane would not warp - just the pilot.

It would be the equivalent of sending your own plane a "join" message and a similar experience for the end user.

The SEA server isn't up to the standard of the MA servers and seems to carry a disco rate of about 10% in events.  Discos mar a number of special events, especially the type where you are required to fly for about 2 hours to complete a mission.

Perhaps, if coded, there could be an arena setting that allows a "rejoin if discoed" time that can be set by a CM.   Incorporated that way it could be added to or removed from any arena according to desirability.  It's worth at least a discussion over coffee and cold pizza on a Friday morning at AH HQ.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on February 27, 2011, 08:36:20 AM
hello dantoo

hope your discussion will have a nice answer :-).

its one of my wishes to visite HTC some day :-)

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Dadsguns on February 27, 2011, 04:15:15 PM
Sounds like a great idea Chris, this would also help to keep the honest people honest....   :aok
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: dstrip2 on March 02, 2011, 12:36:52 AM
really really want this.
lost a 4 kill sortie due to disco on the runway tonight... .ef (finger above enter) HOST CONNECTION LOST >.<  :cry
just annoying, and reading other posts it sounds like an easy fix. i actually logged for the night after it happened. i seem to disco more on TiT anyway
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 06, 2011, 04:52:48 PM
moin

hope this request does not fall into oblivion

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: LLogann on April 06, 2011, 04:56:56 PM
It already has..............

If you take the time to read the "new" same request, HiTech said NO.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,310414.0.html


Sad but true..... Like a Metallica song.   :uhoh
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: caldera on April 06, 2011, 05:16:12 PM
I have had cons go poof after long chases - even a B-29 (just to deny the kill, I guess).  By having them fly level at the speed they discoed at, would eliminate the benefit of "tripping over the cable".  Hardly ever disco but have in a 163 on autoclimb.   :mad: 

This is a great idea, Chris. +1  :aok



Edit: this shouldn't apply to CV command or manable guns.  Those people could "accidentally" disappear for a very long time, causing bigger problems.

And Logan, Hitech said "no" to the OP's request in that other thread, not necessarily this one (which is completely different in scope).
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: LLogann on April 06, 2011, 05:27:37 PM
Here..... let me reiterate:

No.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: caldera on April 06, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
Here..... let me reiterate:


Let me reiterate:
 

That is not pertaining to the wish in this thread.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: LLogann on April 06, 2011, 05:34:15 PM
This thread is asking for a 2 minute Disco grace period.........  It is EXACTLY the same as the other thread.  If you disco, you are gone, there is no take backs.  

Think about it for a moment, if you disco and the system gives you two minutes, what happens to your plane?  You just fly level for 2 minutes?  You'll be shot down.  What if you are diving in a Jug at 600mph?  It goes into autopilot and rips your wings off?  you're dead, still.   Or what if you're NOE........  Heck I hit enough trees without it being autopilot.  :D

Things move so fast in flight that it makes this type of thing nearly impossible and impractical.  

Let me reiterate:
  

That is not pertaining to the wish in this thread.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 06, 2011, 05:39:12 PM
moin

Think about it for a moment, if you disco and the system gives you two or three minutes, what happens to your plane?  You just fly level for 2-3 minutes?  You'll still fly and on lv .  What if you are siting in a tank somewehre?  or fly a bomber some wehre?  you will be still alive.

come one you cant say it is more negative than positive, your arguments are unlogicaly.

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: caldera on April 06, 2011, 05:40:25 PM
This thread is asking for a 2 minute Disco grace period.........  It is EXACTLY the same as the other thread.  If you disco, you are gone, there is no take backs. 

Think about it for a moment, if you disco and the system gives you two minutes, what happens to your plane?  You just fly level for 2 minutes?  You'll be shot down.  What if you are diving in a Jug at 600mph?  It goes into autopilot and rips your wings off?  you're dead, still.   Or what if you're NOE........  Heck I hit enough trees without it being autopilot.  :D

Things move so fast in flight that it makes this type of thing nearly impossible and impractical. 


Let's see what Hitech says.  If he implements this idea, you have to let me vulch you.  If he stays the course, I will vulch you.   :D
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: LLogann on April 06, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
What if you are NOE?

What if you are in a steep dive when you disco?

What if you are throttled down?

What if your plane has damage and only manual flight is possible?

The gv side of things I can totally see working but in flight, not really.  

moin

Think about it for a moment, if you disco and the system gives you two or three minutes, what happens to your plane?  You just fly level for 2-3 minutes?  You'll still fly and on lv .  What if you are siting in a tank somewehre?  or fly a bomber some wehre?  you will be still alive.

come one you cant say it is more negative than positive, your arguments are unlogicaly.

cu chris3


You can vulch me twice my brother!  <S>   :cheers:

Let's see what Hitech says.  If he implements this idea, you have to let me vulch you.  If he stays the course, I will vulch you.   :D
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 06, 2011, 05:49:21 PM
What if you are NOE?

What if you are in a steep dive when you disco?

What if you are throttled down?

What if your plane has damage and only manual flight is possible?


to all..
it will ALT x. if it works you have a real chance to come back in flight, if you dont have luck you are daed, but over all your chance to keep up your flight are higher as bevor ;-)
thats all.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: caldera on April 06, 2011, 05:49:57 PM
What if you are NOE?

What if you are in a steep dive when you disco?

What if you are throttled down?

What if your plane has damage and only manual flight is possible?

The gv side of things I can totally see working but in flight, not really.  

You can vulch me twice my brother!  <S>   :cheers:


1. you hit a mountain.

2. you make a crater.

3. you stall and hit a windmill.

4. you crash.


And if you are not in extreme situations like those, your plane will be there when you get back.  Unless of course, you were getting  :ahand


I am planning on some high altitude B-29 bomb vulching this tour.  Will pm you in game which runway I need you on.   :cheers:
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 06, 2011, 05:50:39 PM
What if you are NOE?

What if you are in a steep dive when you disco?

What if you are throttled down?

What if your plane has damage and only manual flight is possible?


to all..
it will ALT x. if it works you have a real chance to come back in flight, if you dont have luck you are daed, but over all your chance to keep up your flight are higher as bevor ;-)
thats all.

cu
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 06, 2011, 05:52:04 PM

What if you are in a steep dive when you disco?

What if you are throttled down?

What if your plane has damage and only manual flight is possible?

[/quote]

to all..
it will ALT x. if it works you have a real chance to come back in flight, if you dont have luck you are daed, but over all your chance to keep up your flight are higher as bevor ;-)
thats all.

cu
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 06, 2011, 05:53:15 PM

What if you are in a steep dive when you disco?

What if you are throttled down?

What if your plane has damage and only manual flight is possible?

[/quote]

to all..
it will ALT x. if it works you have a real chance to come back in flight, if you dont have luck you are daed, but over all your chance to keep up your flight are higher as bevor ;-)
thats all.

cu
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: LLogann on April 06, 2011, 05:56:05 PM
Hey Hey Hey, wait a second brotha man.... You said vulch not egg.............   :O      :x


I am planning on some high altitude B-29 bomb vulching this tour.  Will pm you in game which runway I need you on.   :cheers:

Also.... If you're in a steep dive and the plane ALT-X's...............  Most planes will tear the wings right off. 
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Spikes on April 06, 2011, 05:59:04 PM
in WoT you have 2 minutes to get back in, your tank just sits there idle.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: SectorNine50 on April 06, 2011, 07:57:46 PM
Hey Hey Hey, wait a second brotha man.... You said vulch not egg.............   :O      :x

Also.... If you're in a steep dive and the plane ALT-X's...............  Most planes will tear the wings right off. 

If you were in that steep of a dive and the potential disco system didn't alt-x, you'd be dead by the time you logged back in anyway! :)
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: SlapShot on April 07, 2011, 12:20:03 PM
moin

i gues the only one who can tell us if it is posible or not is Hitech!

if it is not posible because of any reason its not nice but we will lif with that.
if it is posible it would be nice to ade because it will improve the game a bit.

cu chris3

It's not a question of is it possible ... HT can do just about anything he chooses via programming ... the question asked would be ... Is it worth the effort ?

Personally I think not for the total amount of discos that are experienced.

I can definitely see the advantage for an SEA event, but for the MA, not so much. If the MA were to ever see this, I can't see it saving your "spot" on a capped arena tho ... so forget about that.

If you are having an inordinate amount of discos, you really need to "clean" up your environment/internet connection first before asking HT to do it for you.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: gyrene81 on April 07, 2011, 12:31:07 PM
If you are having an inordinate amount of discos, you really need to "clean" up your environment/internet connection first before asking HT to do it for you.
abosofrigginglutely...  :aok
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 07, 2011, 02:54:19 PM
moin


If you are having an inordinate amount of discos, you really need to "clean" up your environment/internet connection first before asking HT to do it for you.


i will try to get 10000 miles closer to HTC, than it will fix the problem  ;)

cu
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: gyrene81 on April 07, 2011, 03:10:59 PM
moin

i will try to get 10000 miles closer to HTC, than it will fix the problem  ;)

cu
you must live in a part of germany that doesn't have high speed internet...if you're using wireless, all bets are off.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: Motherland on April 07, 2011, 03:24:10 PM
you must live in a part of germany that doesn't have high speed internet...if you're using wireless, all bets are off.
Light only goes so fast.
Discoes are a reality of the game for everyone at some point or another.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 07, 2011, 03:47:17 PM
you must live in a part of germany that doesn't have high speed internet...if you're using wireless, all bets are off.

its is one of the fastes in germany ;-). if im home.

if i play wireless during the week it is a diverent story.

i get lots of discos at both places, surly at work more as at home.

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: gyrene81 on April 07, 2011, 04:03:12 PM
Light only goes so fast.
Discoes are a reality of the game for everyone at some point or another.
i would agree if it was a matter of light...but it isn't.  :D


its is one of the fastes in germany ;-). if im home.

if i play wireless during the week it is a diverent story.

i get lots of discos at both places, surly at work more as at home.

cu chris3
you get to play while you're at work?  :headscratch:  i want your job.

just a guess but you must be using adsl...gonna be a while yet before all of europe gets on board with faster and more reliable internet technology.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 07, 2011, 04:17:56 PM
i would agree if it was a matter of light...but it isn't.  :D

you get to play while you're at work?  :headscratch:  i want your job.

just a guess but you must be using adsl...gonna be a while yet before all of europe gets on board with faster and more reliable internet technology.

lol

during the week i life in my barracks at the armee  ;)


we using v-dsl 50 at home  ;)

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: LLogann on April 07, 2011, 04:19:28 PM
You should call and speak to your ISP.  it is possible they don't like some of the ports HTC uses.

its is one of the fastes in germany ;-). if im home.

if i play wireless during the week it is a diverent story.

i get lots of discos at both places, surly at work more as at home.

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 07, 2011, 04:35:35 PM


isp? what is that.
im using my privat computer with umts during the week so the armee should not have a problem with that.

cu chris3
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: SlapShot on April 07, 2011, 04:42:14 PM

isp? what is that.


Internet Service Provider.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 07, 2011, 04:48:28 PM
ah, ok thank you.

cu
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: curry1 on April 07, 2011, 06:11:57 PM
Do you disappear in WoT? If implemented as wished for, would you disappear in AH2?

If you would just fly along straight until you got back in, you would more than likely just be a free, AFK-ish target anyhow.

Also, if implemented, would it save your spot in a capped arena in order to get back in?

Otherwise, no. Just go poof like a man.


wrongway

You do not disappear your tanks just site there not moving until you get back.  So yeah if your plane just flew in a level straight line till you got back I see no problem.  And then after two minutes or so you could just get a disco.
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on April 10, 2011, 02:42:30 PM
that would be the best for all. :P

cu
Title: Re: new disconect sistem
Post by: chris3 on July 21, 2012, 02:14:54 AM
maybe it was a godd wish finaly hehe :D

cu