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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: redman555 on March 16, 2011, 09:16:17 AM
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Have your kids watch this, they bully? This could happen to them one day :rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPcvUWBY_Ow
-BigBOBCH
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I cant watch youtube at work but if this is the big dude bodyslammin that lil dude, lmao greatest vid eva!!!
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awesome :rock
that lil **** wont forget that in a hurry :lol
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Ouch. Heard a loud crack at 0:23. :lol Kudos to the boy who stood up for himself.
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That little turd got what was coming!
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Seems to me that is Darwinism at it's finest. Pick a fight with someone twice your weight and strength? May very well end poorly for you. :aok
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The kid had a broken ankle, sprained knee, and a concussion. I have absolutely no sympathy for him.
The foot work looked good but the landing not so much.
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BillyD posted that on Facebook today......
All it said was Pwnt :rock
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Looks like youtube pulled it, anyone have a working link?
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lol got a feeling theres going to be a lawsuit coming now
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I think the body slammer deserves it, this isn't how you deal with bullies. By picking a fight, you become no better than them. Trust me, I'm a kid, administration can dish out more punishment than you ever could.
-Penguin
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Looks like youtube pulled it, anyone have a working link?
http://www.brobible.com/story/video-when-being-bully-goes-wrong
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I think the body slammer deserves it, this isn't how you deal with bullies. By picking a fight, you become no better than them. Trust me, I'm a kid, administration can dish out more punishment than you ever could.
-Penguin
you're full of poop penguin...the little turd was the bully...the big kid defended himself...case closed.
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you're full of poop penguin...the little turd was the bully...the big kid defended himself...case closed.
+1, nothing ever gets done at a school until someone gets hurt.
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I think the body slammer deserves it, this isn't how you deal with bullies. By picking a fight, you become no better than them. Trust me, I'm a kid, administration can dish out more punishment than you ever could.
-Penguin
One thing that every man should know how to do is defend himself. If that kid did go the the administration, sure it would have stopped for a few days or weeks, but this kid would be labeled soft. What's he gonna do when he's walking home and he's getting picked on? He's fat, he cant run away. At some point you have to man up and fight the good fight. Even if he were to loose, bullies go after the easy target, there not gonna mess with you if they know your gonna fight back.
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Good for that kid to stand up for himself. When I first saw the video, at first I was thinking "okay, fat kid picking on skinny kid" then it was the other way around, I was suprised. Only problem for the fat kid is the lawsuit the bully's parents can file if they chose to do so. Other than that - Fat Kid 1 - Skinny Bully 0
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They were BOTH suspended from school.
And of course the bullies parents are filing a lawsuit.
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They were BOTH suspended from school.
And of course the bullies parents are filing a lawsuit.
The fat kids parents should countersue for harassment.
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Well i guess the video got removed from Youtube, sorry for the people didnt get to see it =( lol
-BigBOBCH
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I think the body slammer deserves it, this isn't how you deal with bullies. By picking a fight, you become no better than them. Trust me, I'm a kid, administration can dish out more punishment than you ever could.
-Penguin
Penguin...if you watched the video you would have seen that the bully hit the boy multiple times....he got what he deserved.
-BigBOBCH
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FOUND A WORKING VIDEO: WATCH IT FAST IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd7JX1sZnmk
-BigBOBCH
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Penguin...if you watched the video you would have seen that the bully hit the boy multiple times....he got what he deserved.
-BigBOBCH
I never saw the video, however, I now stand corrected. That kid is going to be owned in court. Two punches, a stranglehold, he had it coming a mile away.
-Penguin
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That annoys the hell out of me. :( The two girls in the background laughing when the fat kid gets punched, the bigger kid that interfeers to protect his little punk buddy ... The other punk taking the video ' yeah let's take a video of my friend bullying someone else'.
If I ever see my kid doing something like that, i'd bodyslam him again when he comes home. Those losers are on the way to become real assets to society.
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Kudos to the kid who was defending himself. And the only thing he did WAS defend himself. Notice that all he did was pick the kid up and throw him down, THEN back up and walk away. If he was the little guy he would probably have kept on hitting and beating him but when the problem was put down, he knew he did what he had to do. I think he showed great composure.
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twirp deserved it
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Support Casey Heynes! He kicked his bullies BUTT!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Casey-Heynes/196106643745318?sk=wall#!/pages/Casey-Heynes/196106643745318
-BigBOBCH
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The way I see it, the big kid exhibited quite a bit of restraint. He took a punch, after all, and didn't put the beat down on until after the big talking small bodied bully continued attacking. He may have taught the mouthy kid a valuable lesson that may make him think twice before he bullies the next kid. In fact it may completely prevent him from growing up and being a real <insert word for male genitalia> as an adult.
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Well that little Napoleonic twerp got what he deserved and I hope his parents saw the TRUTH.
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Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo
Nice jorts (little chit)
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I feel any judge or jury would see the obese child as defending himself. From what the video shows, he neither threw the first punch and it was clear that first punch was not going to be the end of the event. To top it off, the obese child did what he had to and did not continue beating the small child when was down.
If that obese child was my son, I would not congratulate him but I would make it clear he acted proper. Heck, I'm not the type to sue, but I would in this case for suspending him.
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Been on the receiving end of bullies, not nice. The larger kid did what he had to do, bet it stops the skinny un picking on him in the future.
Personally, had it been me, things would have been a tad worse - to sort the school bully out at my last school (many many years ago), I hit him with a desk, repeatedly, until he asked me to stop.
Wurzel
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i wouldnt call him Fat, hes just a big kid, never piss of a bear lol
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I feel any judge or jury would see the obese child as defending himself. From what the video shows, he neither threw the first punch and it was clear that first punch was not going to be the end of the event. To top it off, the obese child did what he had to and did not continue beating the small child when was down.
If that obese child was my son, I would not congratulate him but I would make it clear he acted proper. Heck, I'm not the type to sue, but I would in this case for suspending him.
You use the word "obese" alot.
I don't think it means what you think it means.
That kid was FAR from obese.
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You're right, but I found the word 'fat' or 'rotund' to be far more demeaning. It was simply the first PC adjective I could think of at the moment. I suppose I could of used 'larger child' instead, so be it.
Please, don't body slam me... I didn't mean it! :cry
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Hey they removed the video before i could download it! :mad: :cry
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The vid made the news last night. They said it the smack down occurred in Australia.
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oh he has several facebook pages now, just google it.... what i find Ironic is theres pics on there cyber bulling the skinny kid :headscratch:
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You use the word "obese" alot.
I don't think it means what you think it means.
That kid was FAR from obese.
the big kid was obese...not "grossly obese", but still...get your eyes checked...i guesstimate their ages around 12-13 and he's built like i was when i was that age...definitely kept a cooler head than i did when the school bully messed with me...i didn't use a desk though, hard cover science book did a great job.
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That annoys the hell out of me. :( The two girls in the background laughing when the fat kid gets punched, the bigger kid that interfeers to protect his little punk buddy ... The other punk taking the video ' yeah let's take a video of my friend bullying someone else'.
If I ever see my kid doing something like that, i'd bodyslam him again when he comes home. Those losers are on the way to become real assets to society.
It's just one instance Frenchy. Though the instigator sure looks like he might be that much of a bad apple.
PFactorDave / Canacka.... A pile driver drop on concrete isn't self defense. Self defense would be neutralizing the little mosquito. Doing something that could have killed him (drop him slightly different angle against the corner of that garden bank) rather than just send him flying or socking his lights out, that's excessive.
Not brow beating, just an objective assessment. The fat kid has (had) no sense of proportion as far as physical violence goes. Or no sense of restraint.
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The fat kid has (had) no sense of proportion as far as physical violence goes. Or no sense of restraint.
The 'larger' kid doesn't need to have a sense of proportion, he was defending himself and he isn't reported to be a professional combatant that can properly gauge his strength or ability to injure. Also, before this occurs, this kid stands there and takes repeated physical abuse and you don't call that restraint?
You would lose the case in court, without a doubt.
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The fat kid has (had) no sense of proportion as far as physical violence goes. Or no sense of restraint.
Are you kidding me? Did you get dropped on your head as a child? HE WALKED AWAY. If he wanted to he could have gotten on top of that kid and beat his face in, did he? NO. He was trying to avoid the fight. That was shoving, cussing at him, and hit him multiple times. He was defending himself.
-BigBOBCH
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The not-so-happy slapper :aok
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It's just one instance Frenchy. Though the instigator sure looks like he might be that much of a bad apple.
PFactorDave / Canacka.... A pile driver drop on concrete isn't self defense. Self defense would be neutralizing the little mosquito. Doing something that could have killed him (drop him slightly different angle against the corner of that garden bank) rather than just send him flying or socking his lights out, that's excessive.
Not brow beating, just an objective assessment. The fat kid has (had) no sense of proportion as far as physical violence goes. Or no sense of restraint.
Are you kidding me? He never threw a punch, he picked him up and through him to the ground. It wasn't even a pile driver! In self defense you do what you need to to stop the situation and get away which is exactly what that kid did. And by the way, HE IS A KID! You think he should be thinking in his head, while the other kid is smacking the crap out of him, how hurt he would be if he tries to defend himself? By the way, you said self defense would be neutralizing the other kid? He looked neutralized to me!
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Life lesson here ....
There is always someone bigger if not badder than you in real life..... :ahand
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awesome....
little turd got less than he deserved.
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The 'larger' kid doesn't need to have a sense of proportion,
Get outta here... Doesn't need to have a sense of proportion? Well then, let's just bust his legs and cave his skull in while we're at it.
That little mosquito was no threat whatsoever. Proof: Big guy took at least one punch without even moving. Just give the little guy a heavy slap to the face. If he comes back, another big slap, and keep going till the little guy gets it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIW2d-QfwaA
he was defending himself and he isn't reported to be a professional combatant that can properly gauge his strength or ability to injure.
cf "objective assessment" in retrospect, not as some pontification
Also, before this occurs, this kid stands there and takes repeated physical abuse and you don't call that restraint?
That's restraint. A potentially ER worthy pile driver isn't restraint.
You would lose the case in court, without a doubt.
What does that have to do with anything? The vagaries of modern day American courts are meaningless to the realities of physiological trauma and street fighting tactics.
Are you kidding me? Did you get dropped on your head as a child? HE WALKED AWAY.
He walked away after pile driving a sorry excuse for a pre-teen skeleton into the ground.
If he wanted to he could have gotten on top of that kid and beat his face in, did he? NO.
Non sequitur.
He was trying to avoid the fight. That was shoving, cussing at him, and hit him multiple times. He was defending himself.
That doesn't change anything about the fact that his "defense" was excessive.
Are you kidding me? He never threw a punch, he picked him up and through him to the ground. It wasn't even a pile driver! In self defense you do what you need to to stop the situation and get away which is exactly what that kid did. And by the way, HE IS A KID!
I'm not kidding you. You're out of touch with reality if you think that a sloppy pile driver on concrete on a 3 years younger super featherweight, by someone with just a build advantage, in response to punches that aren't anywhere near dangerous, isn't grossly excessive. And I'm no PC nanny. I grew up taking and giving in fist fights, it's why I can't do sports today (bad joints), and I'll be first to admit that I miss fighting, and probably I'll argue that used in moderation it's good for kids. But that pile driver wasn't "restraint".
And I don't give a rat's what courts say, that is probably one of the weakest arguments you could probably make. The justice system has absolutely nothing to do with the physiology and tactics of martial arts.
You think he should be thinking in his head, while the other kid is smacking the crap out of him, how hurt he would be if he tries to defend himself?
Sure, he "didn't know what he was doing". I could buy that. But that doesn't make the exact thing that he did right.
By the way, you said self defense would be neutralizing the other kid? He looked neutralized to me!
No kidding. Let's for a second change a single thing here. Let's take the exact same move and instead of towards the ground, let's apply a one-gravity-equivalent acceleration horizontally instead of vertically; that is, let's make the big kid toss the small kid against the wall, head first, hard enough that he gets the same dislocations and whatever else he got. I'm curious if you'd deny it's excessive -- now that I think about it I expect you will.
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It's just one instance Frenchy. Though the instigator sure looks like he might be that much of a bad apple.
PFactorDave / Canacka.... A pile driver drop on concrete isn't self defense. Self defense would be neutralizing the little mosquito. Doing something that could have killed him (drop him slightly different angle against the corner of that garden bank) rather than just send him flying or socking his lights out, that's excessive.
Not brow beating, just an objective assessment. The fat kid has (had) no sense of proportion as far as physical violence goes. Or no sense of restraint.
that wasn't a "pile driver"...it was a body slam...and if that didn't "neutralize" the little turd, i'm sure the big kid would have done more...he displayed much more of a sense or proportion than your visual acquity...the little turd deserved a boot to the face once he was down, but he didn't get it...that's more restraint than i would have shown.
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agree, little turd got off easy. I'm guessing that wasn't the first time that kid had given the big kid trouble.
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that wasn't a "pile driver"...it was a body slam...
What a load of fudging BS. It's as good as a pile driver. The kid is dropped head first. On concrete. The rest of your post is just added rambling.
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It's just one instance Frenchy. Though the instigator sure looks like he might be that much of a bad apple.
PFactorDave / Canacka.... A pile driver drop on concrete isn't self defense. Self defense would be neutralizing the little mosquito. Doing something that could have killed him (drop him slightly different angle against the corner of that garden bank) rather than just send him flying or socking his lights out, that's excessive.
Not brow beating, just an objective assessment. The fat kid has (had) no sense of proportion as far as physical violence goes. Or no sense of restraint.
You must have been dropped on your head. He neutralized the threat. And "no sense of restraint" - are you blind? He got punched in the face! Not ONCE, but TWICE before he decided to do something. Apparently that same kid had been bullying him all year.
Wake up.
It seems moot has been infected...
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What a load of fudging BS. It's as good as a pile driver. The kid is dropped head first. On concrete. The rest of your post is just added rambling.
moot, you were one of those little schoolyard turds as a kid weren't you? get smacked around after you picked on the wrong guy did you?
a body slam is not "as good as a pile driver" numbskull...the little kid did not in any way hit the concrete head first...get your eyes checked...then get a clue...the little turd was limping for a reason, legs/knees hit the ground first...he was dazed because the big kid dropped him on his head as soon as his legs/knees hit the ground...then bigger bully tries to step in, but wasn't sure he really wanted any of that action.
since you're so well versed in lack of knowledge...here are pile drivers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrJkF56suQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrJkF56suQ&feature=related)
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/thecasey.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/finishhim.jpg)
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(http://i56.tinypic.com/6dwhnd.jpg) Pile Driver
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2hz70d5.jpg) Body slam
Jeez :/
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I've seen the video few times more and I think the fat kid was right to defend himself. After reading Moot's points and thought I would chip in. In my own opinion, he was defending himself. Now I'm not saying the kid was in the right to slamming him and breaking a bone (don't know if he did or not) and I certainly not going to say what was going through his mind when he picked the kid up, but I for one thinking he didn’t have intentions of slamming him that hard into the concrete, but wanted to defuse the situation enough for the kid to learn a lesson. I have no doubt there is going to be lawsuits and few court related things. With that said and done, I'll tell a quick story. My sister and I were always getting picked on because our father was chief of police for long while, and I do remember this one time particular. I was in either 4th or 5th grade. There were couple of older kids who would literally chase me after school, sometimes they caught me, and sometimes they did. The first time, they would just push me down or steal my backpack. Sometimes they would do that to my friend if he was with me, but their main focus was on me. After awhile they end up getting more physical and I usually end up coming out of it sporting a bloody lip and few bruises. It stopped for a good while but one night when I was playing shooting hoops in the driveway, they decided to pay me a visit. Well they were pushing me around again and finally I had enough. I had the ball in my hand so I threw it (I was only two feet away) and hit one of them smack in the face, and the other one was so shocked about it, he didn’t react and I kicked him in the nads (I was only little kid at that time so had to hit where I could lol) and that hunched him over low enough for me to give him a good punch to the jaw line. They both were on the ground and I went back into my house. They never bothered me after that. Years later though, I ran into one of them at the store. I guess time made him grow up little bit more and he apologized for all those times him and his friend were bullying to me. I accepted it being it was years ago. I had to ask him why exactly they did and I found out it was because my dad had arrested his older brother.
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You must have been dropped on your head.
irrelevant and inaccurate ad hominem
He neutralized the threat.
More than
And "no sense of restraint" - are you blind? He got punched in the face! Not ONCE, but TWICE before he decided to do something.
Once again someone is not reading what he's replying to. What were the exact words? He's either got no sense of restraint, or no sense of scale. IE if he has a sense of restraint, he doesn't have an accurate sense of what to expect. Which is really nothing you can't see for yourself anytime someone new tries something like martial arts. E.G. martial arts newbies the world around falling on the floor trying to kick or badly estimating jumps or having bad motor coordination. There's really nothing extraordinary about anything I've said, other than a couple of you guys finding it incredible because it disagrees with you, and/or jumping on any opportunity (e.g. misquoting) to save face in this argument.
Standing still while someone punches you is restraint. What happened next wasn't. I can't make it any simpler than that, and you guys keep trying to complicate it.
Apparently that same kid had been bullying him all year.
And I'm supposed to guess this from the vid... how?
It seems moot has been infected...
commonsensitis
moot, you were one of those little schoolyard turds as a kid weren't you? get smacked around after you picked on the wrong guy did you?
:lol "Not even wrong"
a body slam is not "as good as a pile driver"
It is when it's carelessly executed by a sloppy fattie like that kid. It could just as well have ended up with the scrawny kid injuring his neck pretty bad if he'd fallen just wrong, e.g. clumsily trying to recover in just the wrong way on his way down. This isn't rocket science either. How do I know this? Lots of experience with what should have been harmless fights turning into serious injuries.
numbskull...
Ahem
the little kid did not in any way hit the concrete head first...get your eyes checked...then get a clue...the little turd was limping for a reason, legs/knees hit the ground first...he was dazed because the big kid dropped him on his head as soon as his legs/knees hit the ground...then bigger bully tries to step in, but wasn't sure he really wanted any of that action.
Not the point
since you're so well versed in lack of knowledge...here are pile drivers:
:rolleyes: How about a game of semantics
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Get outta here... Doesn't need to have a sense of proportion? Well then, let's just bust his legs and cave his skull in while we're at it.
That little mosquito was no threat whatsoever. Proof: Big guy took at least one punch without even moving. Just give the little guy a heavy slap to the face. If he comes back, another big slap, and keep going till the little guy gets it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIW2d-QfwaAcf "objective assessment" in retrospect, not as some pontificationThat's restraint. A potentially ER worthy pile driver isn't restraint.
What does that have to do with anything? The vagaries of modern day American courts are meaningless to the realities of physiological trauma and street fighting tactics.
He walked away after pile driving a sorry excuse for a pre-teen skeleton into the ground.
Non sequitur.
That doesn't change anything about the fact that his "defense" was excessive.
I'm not kidding you. You're out of touch with reality if you think that a sloppy pile driver on concrete on a 3 years younger super featherweight, by someone with just a build advantage, in response to punches that aren't anywhere near dangerous, isn't grossly excessive. And I'm no PC nanny. I grew up taking and giving in fist fights, it's why I can't do sports today (bad joints), and I'll be first to admit that I miss fighting, and probably I'll argue that used in moderation it's good for kids. But that pile driver wasn't "restraint".
And I don't give a rat's what courts say, that is probably one of the weakest arguments you could probably make. The justice system has absolutely nothing to do with the physiology and tactics of martial arts.Sure, he "didn't know what he was doing". I could buy that. But that doesn't make the exact thing that he did right.No kidding. Let's for a second change a single thing here. Let's take the exact same move and instead of towards the ground, let's apply a one-gravity-equivalent acceleration horizontally instead of vertically; that is, let's make the big kid toss the small kid against the wall, head first, hard enough that he gets the same dislocations and whatever else he got. I'm curious if you'd deny it's excessive -- now that I think about it I expect you will.
Can I come over to see you and start repeatingly hit you in the face? Please? Show me restraint. you said he didn't cause he picked the kid up and slammed him. So in your words, you cannot touch me, you will have to stand there and take everything I have to give out. Will you fight back------now that I think about it I expect you will.
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I can smell the testosterone boiling over from here.
Can I come over to see you and start repeatingly hit you in the face? Please? Show me restraint.
You couldve seen me exercise restraint the way the big kid did in the first half, any of the times where I did nothing while some "numbskull" went far and away beyond reasonable justification for a good bellybutton kicking. One of those times I did an especially beautiful drop kick onto another kid's head, spraining it. That was excessive for sure (similar provocations from that kid as in the vid, added humiliation was that it was all over a girl which up to that point he had won over), and I've done worse things I won't mention here, the tamest of em putting kids/people in the hospital.
Excessive use of power is nothing to brag about. This is one of the first things you learn in just about any good martial arts training, so I really can't take any of you guys seriously when you pretend it's incredible.
you said he didn't cause he picked the kid up and slammed him. So in your words, you cannot touch me, you will have to stand there and take everything I have to give out. Will you fight back------now that I think about it I expect you will.
In my words? Show me where I said that.
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You put someone in hospital moot?
With what? An extensive quote and gibberish bat?
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As someone who has been in a fight with a bully, I can safely say the LAST thing going through your mind is a wrestling move. You just want him to leave you alone, but on my end I was the little kid and the bully was the bigger kid.
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moot, if you would have read the entire report (it's all over the news -_-) you would have known the kid had been bullying him all year long.
He could have punched the kid in his face and kept on until his skull caved in - he picked him and threw him into the ground instead.
Common sense is not what you are infected with. You seem to be one of those "Let's baby the populace" individuals. I bet you're one of those who seem to not know the difference in between beating a child and spanking a child so you support a ban on parents popping the hand of a kid.
EDIT: Hell just for laughs - he could have kicked the loser in the nads over and over and ruined his ability to have kids.
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irrelevant and inaccurate ad hominem
More thanOnce again someone is not reading what he's replying to. What were the exact words? He's either got no sense of restraint, or no sense of scale. IE if he has a sense of restraint, he doesn't have an accurate sense of what to expect. Which is really nothing you can't see for yourself anytime someone new tries something like martial arts. E.G. martial arts newbies the world around falling on the floor trying to kick or badly estimating jumps or having bad motor coordination. There's really nothing extraordinary about anything I've said, other than a couple of you guys finding it incredible because it disagrees with you, and/or jumping on any opportunity (e.g. misquoting) to save face in this argument.
Standing still while someone punches you is restraint. What happened next wasn't. I can't make it any simpler than that, and you guys keep trying to complicate it.
And I'm supposed to guess this from the vid... how?commonsensitis
:lol "Not even wrong"It is when it's carelessly executed by a sloppy fattie like that kid. It could just as well have ended up with the scrawny kid injuring his neck pretty bad if he'd fallen just wrong, e.g. clumsily trying to recover in just the wrong way on his way down. This isn't rocket science either. How do I know this? Lots of experience with what should have been harmless fights turning into serious injuries.AhemNot the point :rolleyes: How about a game of semantics
Let's define:
No sense of Restraint: Ooh! Pretty Girl! Must. Grab. BOOBS!
No sense of scale: Did you just slap me? Well say hello to Mr. Chainsaw!
These are two different things, Casey had a sense of restraint, but the question of scale remains. How were either of them supposed to know what their blows could do? A sharp blow from the heel of the hand to the base of the nose results in instant death (since the bone is driven into the brain). A blow with the edge of the hand across the bridge can cause temporary blindness. If Casey or the aggressor were to have a sense of scale, where on earth could they have obtained it?
You have a point, moot, the overhead throw was a bit excessive. However, we will never know how much fight that little sucker would have had in him had Casey not used the move. In fact, if Casey had chosen a lesser blow, the fight may have continued. You can clearly see what Casey is capable of, and if the fight hadn't stopped there the aggressor could have been killed.
Is a poorly executed piledriver is better than an extended fight with the equivalent of a bear?
-Penguin
EDIT: Fixed some grammar errors
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I think every one of you should shut up and give that kid a wi-five.
Let's face it, he took the matter into his own hands, literally, and
solved his problem when others wouldn't.
But, knowing that people on this thread don't give up their internet
arguments easily, let's throw in another factor. The twirp had a his
little group of friends.
If the big guy were to simply punch the twirp and knock his lights
out, I think one or two more guys would have (possibly) jumped in
and started a fist fight. Now, being me, I don't like the 2/3v1 odds
in a fist fight. I think the shock factor of his body slam worked
quite well. Completely destroyed all their egos, and morale? = zero.
I don't know about you, but if I saw my gung-ho little buddy get
eviscerated I wouldn't want to fight either.
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Well said Penguin.
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:rofl i've seen less manure being spread at a dairy farm than i'm seeing from moot...we have all learned something from moot today children...body slam is proportionately equal to a pile driver and fat kids shouldn't fight back when bullied by a skinny kid...might not show enough restraint... :rofl :lol :rofl :lol
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I think every one of you should shut up and give that kid a wi-five.
Let's face it, he took the matter into his own hands, literally, and
solved his problem when others wouldn't.
But, knowing that people on this thread don't give up their internet
arguments easily, let's throw in another factor. The twirp had a his
little group of friends.
If the big guy were to simply punch the twirp and knock his lights
out, I think one or two more guys would have (possibly) jumped in
and started a fist fight. Now, being me, I don't like the 2/3v1 odds
in a fist fight. I think the shock factor of his body slam worked
quite well. Completely destroyed all their egos, and morale? = zero.
I don't know about you, but if I saw my gung-ho little buddy get
eviscerated I wouldn't want to fight either.
amen
and penguin has the scale thing down.
Moot - you need a reality check.
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Yeah, truthfully I think Moot was one of the bullies when he was younger that got smashed and still hasn't gotten over it. How can you tell me he didnt have a right to do that? The kid hit him multiple times and had made fun of him for years. If I could meet Casey I would buy him dinner. If Casey wanted to he could have beat the living *fill in the blank* out of the kid....he WALKED AWAY. He didnt want to fight but had to defend himself.
-BigBOBCH
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You seem to be one of those "Let's baby the populace" individuals.
It's not possible to take anything you say seriously when you say something like that. I mean, ask around. Ask anyone who's known me for more than ... the 10 months since you've been around here.
:rofl i've seen less manure being spread at a dairy farm than i'm seeing from moot...we have all learned something from moot today children...body slam is proportionately equal to a pile driver and fat kids shouldn't fight back when bullied by a skinny kid...might not show enough restraint... :rofl :lol :rofl :lol
I'd agree... if that was what I'd actually said.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html
These are two different things, Casey had a sense of restraint, but the question of scale remains. How were either of them supposed to know what their blows could do? A sharp blow from the heel of the hand to the base of the nose results in instant death (since the bone is driven into the brain). A blow with the edge of the hand across the bridge can cause temporary blindness. If Casey or the aggressor were to have a sense of scale, where on earth could they have obtained it?
A perfect world argument with lots of semantics thrown in. The big kid was sloppy and excessive.
Is a poorly executed piledriver is better than an extended fight with the equivalent of a bear?
That bear could've easily taken anything the little kid could've tried. I think the shock factor of his body slam worked quite well.
A single front kick that would've launched the little kid away would've been enough. Or big bear slaps like in the youtube I linked above.
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That big kid had probably never been in a fight before. He had no idea of what he was capable of.
The phrase "not knowing your own strength" comes to mind.
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Yeah, truthfully I think Moot was one of the bullies when he was younger that got smashed and still hasn't gotten over it.
:lol Are you even reading what you're replying to? I got expelled a number of times for violence and vandalism. One of the 11yo friends I fist fought with for fun once went to the hospital because a bad punch made his eye all fluffied up. I took karate, thai boxing, and taekwondo, and was fastest at 60m sprint till about 18yo, I made soccer, handball, and volleyball teams. But yeah, this is all about me being bullied.. Even though I skipped two grades and nailed most of the best looking girls... What are you going to fall back on next? Instead of simply reading what I'm saying rather than misquoting it. What a sophomoric argument.
How can you tell me he didnt have a right to do that?
Because it's excessive and dangerous. The threat wasn't there. It's disproportionate.
The kid hit him multiple times and had made fun of him for years. If I could meet Casey I would buy him dinner. If Casey wanted to he could have beat the living *fill in the blank* out of the kid....he WALKED AWAY. He didnt want to fight but had to defend himself.
He walked away after dislocating multiple joints with a move that couldve done much worse. So merely saying that he walked away is inaccurate.
He didn't want to fight but he did, so that argument's meaningless.
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You cant talk as much smack as you want moot. Im 6'1, 230, took 12 years of karate, have blackbelt, did Ju jitsu and kickboxing. I picked a kid off the ground by his neck with one arm and slammed him so hard against the wall he had the wind knocked out of him. That boy had all the right in the world to drop that little bully, and how was the threat not there!! The kid punched him in the face! All the kids friends were there! The smaller boy punched and shoved him multiple times! I would have snapped his neck if I was Casey. Casey showed he didnt want to fight, he walked away. If he wanted to he could have destroyed that boy, HE DIDNT. He was resisting the fight the entire beginning of the video!
-BigBOBCH
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I've been playing since 2000 moot - get your facts straight. I'm SO sorry I didn't find a need to join the forums until recently. I'm so, so sorry. I apologize.
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That big kid could have been a major bellybutton for all we know...
There's no context to this situation.
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You cant talk as much smack as you want moot. Im 6'1, 230, took 12 years of karate, have blackbelt, did Ju jitsu and kickboxing. I picked a kid off the ground by his neck with one arm and slammed him so hard against the wall he had the wind knocked out of him. That boy had all the right in the world to drop that little bully, and how was the threat not there!! The kid punched him in the face! All the kids friends were there! The smaller boy punched and shoved him multiple times! I would have snapped his neck if I was Casey. Casey showed he didnt want to fight, he walked away. If he wanted to he could have destroyed that boy, HE DIDNT. He was resisting the fight the entire beginning of the video!
-BigBOBCH
What smack talk? All I've been saying is that the fat kid's response was excessive. All you guys have had to say in response is that I've got some freudian issues. Who's talking smack?
I've been playing since 2000 moot - get your facts straight. I'm SO sorry I didn't find a need to join the forums until recently. I'm so, so sorry. I apologize.
beside the point
If he wanted to he could have destroyed that boy, HE DIDNT.
Multiple dislocations with a move that couldve done much worse, on a kid that's not even halfway into his teens, that weighs not even half of the bigger one, that's three years younger, that obviously is no threat - as the punches prove, you don't think that's destroying? If you think destroying, IE excessive force, is only the right word to use if the big kid would've pulled a gun or a chainsaw, then it's you that's out of touch with reality. The little kid got way more than was required to make a point.
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That big kid could have been a major bellybutton for all we know...
There's no context to this situation.
There's an entire report on CNN
and moot - it wasn't beside the point - you brought up how long I've been a member of the AH community.
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This is not a dig...but Moot you talk about what the big kid did as dangerous...With all you training are you going to say that a free punch (or any for that matter) is not as dangerous?
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He walked away - restraint applied
He did it once to make sure the others new to leave him lone - the scale was just.
Moot, all you're doing is trying to act like you're the over-intelligent brainchild spawn of Einstein and Bach. You can keep turning your nose up, but we all see the snot up there. That perfection you want to glow with isn't there.
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and moot - it wasn't beside the point - you brought up how long I've been a member of the AH community.
I brought it up to make the point that you don't know what you're talking about, and that you could ask anyone who was around longer than your join date. Whether you joined at that date or earlier is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with how much seniority you or I have in the community, but with your pretension that I've got nanny tendencies.
This is not a dig...but Moot you talk about what the big kid did as dangerous...With all you training are you going to say that a free punch (or any for that matter) is not as dangerous?
Of course a free punch can be dangerous.. But not when it's coming from that little kid, if you're the big one. All the theory in the world doesn't matter if it doesn't match reality. The reality in the video is that the little kid was no threat. The little kid is a wimp in body and spirit.
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I find it very interesting. why would some scrawny lillte kid pick a fit with a big kid like that? :bhead
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I find it very interesting. why would some scrawny lillte kid pick a fit with a big kid like that? :bhead
Its not fake if thats what you mean, its all over news. And Moot, your still an idiot >.>
-BigBOBCH
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Moot, all you're doing is trying to act like you're the over-intelligent brainchild spawn of Einstein and Bach.
No but now this is really a waste of time given how dishonest your arguments are.
You can keep turning your nose up, but we all see the snot up there. That perfection you want to glow with isn't there.
I'm not turning my nose up but only arguing. Who made this about the other guy having a bully complex or whatever other puerile BS? Not me.
It has nothing to do with glowing with perfection, that's just fudging what I actually said. You can't read what I said and/or can't think of any proper counter arguments, hence all the BS.
He walked away - restraint applied
So regardless what happens, as long as you walk away afterwards, the whole of your actions can be summed up as "restrained"?
He did it once to make sure the others new to leave him lone - the scale was just.
And all I've ever said is that the means were disproportionate, even if the ends weren't.
This is the actual argument here. Everything else is BS. I don't know how you can say with a straight face that I'm dubious, when you and others fall back on totally irrelevant arguments like "you must have been bullied", which are also ad hominems or strawmen, aren't even accurate, and totally made up (unless you're getting this from a crystal ball). So any way you look at it, it was all BS: asinine and irrelevant.
And Moot, your still an idiot >.>
-BigBOBCH
I rest my case
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See - you are so hardheaded that convential debate with you is absolutely pointless.
He did ONE move. He did a show of force (U.S. and South Korea anyone?) on the aggressor to let the others know to not jump in. Fear factor. It was not an overly offensive move.
I'm done arguing with you. You're lack of understanding and ability to see another viewpoint other than your own is worse than ack ack.
He could have smashed the kids skull in, kicked him in the groin over and over, brought a gun to school etc.
You're to stuck up to admit you're wrong.
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See - you are so hardheaded that convential debate with you is absolutely pointless.
He did ONE move. He did a show of force (U.S. and South Korea anyone?) on the aggressor to let the others know to not jump in. Fear factor. It was not an overly offensive move.
I'm done arguing with you. You're lack of understanding and ability to see another viewpoint other than your own is worse than ack ack.
:aok
-BigBOBCH
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...........I'm done arguing with you. You're lack of understanding and ability to see another viewpoint other than your own is worse than ack ack.
Uh oh, what is that I hear coming...................You, you woke up the beast... :lol
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Uh oh, what is that I hear coming...................You, you woke up the beast... :lol
:lol
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Uh oh, what is that I hear coming...................You, you woke up the beast... :lol
Hell, I think the beast might actually side up with us this round. :rofl
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See - you are so hardheaded that convential debate with you is absolutely pointless.
I'm hardheaded enough to not put up with you misquoting me and building a strawman house of cards on top of those misquotes.
He did ONE move. He did a show of force (U.S. and South Korea anyone?) on the aggressor to let the others know to not jump in. Fear factor. It was not an overly offensive move.
Not the point, popular appeal in bold
I'm done arguing with you. You're lack of understanding and ability to see another viewpoint
Wrong. I understand your viewpoint and disagree with it, and I never made any childish arguments such as yours and others' "moot must have been dropped on head as a kid/been bullied and be sore about it still".
I'll skip pointing out what I expect is at least as much experience in understanding foreign viewpoints as you might have.
You're pulling out of this argument probably because you realize how foolish it was to try and make this about me supposedly being a closet bully hater. Every one of your arguments failed and my not putting up with em unfortunately only caused you to reach for ever more ridiculous arguments as thinly veiled insults.
The only point I've argued since the start was that the slam dunk move he pulled was irresponsible. It doesn't matter what the move is called, or whether I was or wasn't bullied. What matters is that there was never any threat commensurate (I'm sorry if that word offends your delicate vernacular sensibilities) with the move he pulled, because the move he pulled was excessive as it was and could easily have done much worse.
And that has nothing to do with wanting more nannyism... If you had actually read the posts you replied to you would've noticed that's the opposite of my pov.
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Like I said, I'm done.
It was the point.
Simple.
I will continue to post after you for gits and shiggles though.
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Imagine this. You're a chubby kid, who has probably been the brunt of many a fat joke. This little twerp is making fun of you. This has happened all of your life, so its not that big of a deal. However then he starts poking/hitting you, and you realize someone is videotaping it, and egging it on. You finally snap, and decide to kick this turds bellybutton once and for all, and decide to do the most damage you know how, with the biggest weapon you have.
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Imagine this. You're a chubby kid, who has probably been the brunt of many a fat joke. This little twerp is making fun of you. This has happened all of your life, so its not that big of a deal. However then he starts poking/hitting you, and you realize someone is videotaping it, and egging it on. You finally snap, and decide to kick this turds bellybutton once and for all, and decide to do the most damage you know how, with the biggest weapon you have.
And totally overdo it.
Like I said, I'm done.
It was the point.
Simple.
I will continue to post after you for gits and shiggles though.
IOW "I have no answer to your arguments but I'll keep trying to antagonize to save face"
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Moot, I disagree with you. I honestly believe that in a court of law, a jury would rule that the larger kid defended himself justfiably. But I am not a forum warrior and do not wish to be drawn into a war of text walls, so I request to respectfully agree to disagree with you.
:salute
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I think the point was to totally overdo it if possible. I just don't think he knew how much damage he could actually cause.
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He should have just brought a gun to school and killed everyone but the bully. Yeah! That'll show them! - That's overdoing it. :|
This would have been considered self defense in ANY court.
Someone breaks into your house (in many states) you can kill them on site. Doesn't say "kill" but you may fire a gun.
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moot, turn your webcam off, we can see you......
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199697_1928380135288_1415742882_32236764_8315578_n.jpg)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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moot, turn your webcam off, we can see you......
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199697_1928380135288_1415742882_32236764_8315578_n.jpg)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
:rofl :aok
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Moot, I disagree with you. I honestly believe that in a court of law, a jury would rule that the larger kid defended himself justfiably. But I am not a forum warrior and do not wish to be drawn into a war of text walls, so I request to respectfully agree to disagree with you.
:salute
We're not in disagreement. I never argued the legal aspect and explicitly said that that was a separate thing. And quotes went fractal only because some people kept moving the goalposts, and so many people argued with a single person who thought it only fair to precisely articulate how his arguments matched each point made from each person.
He should have just brought a gun to school and killed everyone but the bully. Yeah! That'll show them! - That's overdoing it. :|
Complete non sequitur out of left field. Not one single person argued this once even implicitly anywhere in this thread.
Someone breaks into your house (in many states) you can kill them on site. Doesn't say "kill" but you may fire a gun.
Also non sequitur, apples and oranges comparison
moot, turn your webcam off, we can see you......
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Ha. That's actually not far from it. Today was last of three days of non stop exams. Tonight I can drink beer and slack off all I want.
Oh wait.. You're saying I made up everything I said about being expelled. Well what can I say. I guess it is exceptional to some people. If nothing else it just proves how little traction Marine and friends had in the actual arguments. So they had to bring ridicule into it.
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That's actually not far from it. Today was last of three days of non stop exams. Tonight I can drink beer and slack off all I want.
Oh wait.. You're saying I made up everything I said about being expelled. Well what can I say. I guess it is exceptional to some people. If nothing else it just proves how little traction Marine and friends had in the actual arguments. So they had to bring ridicule into it.
:rofl :rofl Lighten up Francis! I have no idea whether you're a 7 year old girl or Chuck Norris!
I just saw this thread and have been looking for a great opportunity to photoshop something funny into that pic!
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No- you kept saying we were off topic when we countered your own points so we decided to get stupid. You kept denying it so we just gave up and decided to have fun.
Your thickness affected you to such a great length that - well never mind, you'll just cry more about it. "Not the poiiiint" stfu - we fought YOUR point and proved you wrong, and you got butt hurt.
He's disagreeing the disagreement - I give up on him.
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So moot it went from 'I put a guy in hospital' to 'I put my friend in hospital by mistake'.
:huh
tell us more about when you drop kicked a kid to the head.
were they using too many non sequitur points also?
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Reaper honestly what do you expect? It would be par for the course as far as this thread goes.
So moot it went from 'I put a guy in hospital' to 'I put my friend in hospital by mistake'.
Two different instances.
tell us more about when you drop kicked a kid to the head.
My best drop kick ever. I had practiced it a lot out of infantile admiration of Bruce Lee as portrayed in "Dragon". I actually sprung so high from being so pumped up in humiliation and adrenaline after the guy choke held me at my locker that it felt like I was flying. Ironically I halfway landed on the girl in question. The guy wore a neck brace for a while after that. What does it have to do with the topic? It was excessive, and it illustrates why I feel I can pretend to know what it feels like to be in that fat kid's shoes.
No- you kept saying we were off topic when we countered your own points so we decided to get stupid. You kept denying it so we just gave up and decided to have fun.
Your thickness affected you to such a great length that - well never mind, you'll just cry more about it. "Not the poiiiint" stfu - we fought YOUR point and proved you wrong, and you got butt hurt.
He's disagreeing the disagreement - I give up on him.
So like I said. You have no answer for the arguments. Now it's all BS bluster because for some reason saving face matters to you. But at least you admitted as much.
"Not the poiiiint" stfu - we fought YOUR point and proved you wrong, and you got butt hurt.
Might as well be arguing on 4chan.
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Reaper, isn't that what they call 'photobombing' something. haha If you get really bored you can drop some bombs in one of my threads. In about two weeks I am going to start another thread on the P-61 Windowmaker :D just because...
I have never seen so many posts explaining why there should be no posts as there seems to be with the P-61 thread.
These threads are turning into some fun reading.
Boo
:aok
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Reaper, isn't that what they call 'photobombing' something.
:rofl I have no idea, I thought it was called "making the funny!"
In about two weeks I am going to start another thread on the P-61 Windowmaker :D just because...
Oh my, :rofl if you name it that it will be EPIC. "P-61 Windowmaker"..... :rofl
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This thread just got alot better :rofl
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This thread just got alot better :rofl
Pass the popcorn please
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My best drop kick ever. I had practiced it a lot out of infantile admiration of Bruce Lee as portrayed in "Dragon". I actually sprung so high from being so pumped up in humiliation and adrenaline after the guy choke held me at my locker that it felt like I was flying. Ironically I halfway landed on the girl in question. The guy wore a neck brace for a while after that. What does it have to do with the topic? It was excessive, and it illustrates why I feel I can pretend to know what it feels like to be in that fat kid's shoes.
I always respected you as a worthy and dangerous adversary in all things, even though we have rarely seen eye to eye. If that is true then I actualy now like you a bit more too.
Fairplay.
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Well now, did the big kid use a little disproportionate force? sure, the little kid could have been seriously injured.
However anything less might not have convinced the little punk to cease and desist.
It's not realistic to expect anyone, let alone a child, in the heat of the moment, to determine and employ the exact amount of force, but no more than necessary to stop an attack.
It's what happens, not what could have happened that matters.
It would have been a tragedy if the little kid had been paralyzed, or something, but a few bruises, even a fracture?
Children are often exonerated for intentionally and without provocation causing injury, so this kid sure as hell shouldn't be facing any punishment.
A sharp blow from the heel of the hand to the base of the nose results in instant death (since the bone is driven into the brain).
This is actually a myth, the nose is mostly cartilage without the tensile strength to drive it into the brain, Even if the nose was completely made of bone it wouldn't be long enough to reach the brain and you would actually have to drive bone through bone as there is virtually no chance of any bone fragments finding their way through the very small openings in the sinus area of the skull.
Such a blow could indeed be fatal as any hard blow to any part of the head could cause brain trauma, but there will never be any nose bone missiles ripping into anyones brain.
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If that is true
I don't lie. Why would I lie? What do you gain from lying or doing anything to cheat your way to some reputation on a forum like this one? All but a tiny number of the people on this forum will never be anything but pixels on a screen. So the only substance and value on this forum is information and reason. Lying on a forum like this is like peeing in your own drink. And so would be conceding to some guy who repeatedly misquoted you and then pretends you're an idiot for not admitting you did write those misquotes.
It's not realistic to expect anyone, let alone a child, in the heat of the moment, to determine and employ the exact amount of force, but no more than necessary to stop an attack.
And I said as much.. Since I'm apparently the only one arguing this position, I strictly argued that what he did, specifically as it was done, was excessive. It would've been just as discouraging to repeatedly squeak slap the little guy around. The little guy was a wimp physically and mentally. The big guy could both shrug off the little guy's punches, as well as manhandle him basically any way he pleases. There was no contest whatsoever between the two. All of that in a nutshell is all I've argued from the beginning.
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All but a tiny number of the people on this forum will never be anything but pixels on a screen.
Mind if I sig that?
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Sure.. why would I mind? Not like you could stop someone from it anyway. :joystick:
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Sure.. why would I mind? Not like you could stop someone from it anyway. :joystick:
Stealing it without bringing it to your attention would have made me
feel bad. I'd rather ask beforehand.
Thanks :aok
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And so would be conceding to some guy who repeatedly misquoted you and then pretends you're an idiot for not admitting you did write those misquotes.
Not sure I understand what you mean there, but I totaly agree on the pointless nature of lying here.
Still have this image of you flying kicking some tard in the head and running off with his girfriend :D
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Apparently Casey has been tormented for a number of years now, and even though we don't have the context of what started this particular argument, its easy enough to assume that its just part of a running battle this kid has to put up with every day.
What is clear however that this was a premeditated attack, and while that little scumbag may have been the lone attacker on camera its pretty obvious that it wasn't a 1v1 situation. You had a group including the person taking the video who created this incident. After Casey snapped and went to walk away, a bigger scumbag who was probably egging on his little boyfriend stepping up to escalate the assault on Casey - which was only stopped by an older girl who stepped in.
I completely agree that it could've been a terrible outcome from Casey banging that little turd into the concrete, and normally it will be reasonable to say he overreacted but that jerk and his punk mates put that kid into that situation. They went into it knowing what they wanted to do which was to terrorise who they thought was a weaker person - but Casey even after the first punch in the face mind you, still didn't retaliate and eventually was pushed further until he snapped. To be critical of him for that is ridiculous - that kid went into flight or fight mode - and choose the later on instinct.
To be honest if that was one of my kids, I'd be telling him to make sure that little scumbag didn't get up in a hurry
Tronsky
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And we're talking about children here (no matter how big they look), how are they expected to know how much is enough and/or respond in an appropriate manner. He did good.
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This very same occurance happened to me, and I did exactly what he (big guy) did, though a bit more violent.
I sent that pssy little bich through a window.
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And I said as much.. Since I'm apparently the only one arguing this position, I strictly argued that what he did, specifically as it was done, was excessive. It would've been just as discouraging to repeatedly squeak slap the little guy around. The little guy was a wimp physically and mentally. The big guy could both shrug off the little guy's punches, as well as manhandle him basically any way he pleases. There was no contest whatsoever between the two. All of that in a nutshell is all I've argued from the beginning.
i can't believe people are still arguing with you on this but...that is not exactly what you have said all along...you refused to acknowledge that the chubby kid, obviously faced not only with a scrawny schoolyard bully but the bullies friends as well...(one of which was at least as big as the chubby kid)...showed a lot of restraint when he didn't pursue any further actions against the bully after slamming him into the ground...and you were wrong, as the chubby kid was obviously not a fighter as anyone who has studied martial arts could plainly see...he simply did what he could given his abilities and the situation...which is also taught in martial arts.
then you repeatedly equated the physical damage that could be achieved with a body slam with the physical damage that could be achieved with a pile driver...and you were wrong there as well.
then throughout your series of non sequitur b.s. posts you have repeatedly switched from being picked on...to being the bully (punching an 11 yr old just for fun)...looking at your drop kick anecdote along with the other crap about your personal experiences throughout this discussion...the drop kick was obviously an attack from behind...and if your victim had to wear a neck brace, he was struck between the shoulders, not the head...which was not a very "high flying feat"...getting struck from behind with any force between the shoulders will cause the neck to snap backward causing whiplash...the same effect can be caused by a rapid forceful push with your hands...a strike to the head from behind would not have the same effect.
not that it really matters, but bruce lee never performed drop kicks since they leave you vulnerable and are just as dangerous to the person performing the kick as you attempt to recover as they are to the person being attacked...and anyone who studied his martial arts form would know that...even a kid.
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It's not possible to take anything you say seriously when you say something like that. I mean, ask around. Ask anyone who's known me for more than ... the 10 months since you've been around here.I'd agree... if that was what I'd actually said.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html
A perfect world argument with lots of semantics thrown in. The big kid was sloppy and excessive. That bear could've easily taken anything the little kid could've tried. A single front kick that would've launched the little kid away would've been enough. Or big bear slaps like in the youtube I linked above.
What about the aggressor? His were blows sloppy and excessive as well. In fact, they came without provocation. He clearly showed that he wanted to fight Casey. The chokehold clearly showed that he had no sense of scale, that is a lethal hold. As for mine being an arguement existing in a perfect world, isn't yours as well? Do adrenaline and pain hold no value in the argument.
How can one hold an individual who is being beaten and strangled to make an informed, rational decision about the only powerful move he can execute with any degree of skill? Of course the kid was sloppy, he doesn't study the martial arts. If he were supposed to, could we expect the same of you in the same situation? The piledriver isn't a move taught by school wrestling teams.
There was tremendous risk for both parties involved. If Casey hadn't stopped the little kid, he would have been ganged up on and beaten tremendously. If the little kid had punched Casey in the eye, he could have blinded him. There are a multitude of different scenarios which could have happened but didn't.
My arguement does not stem from a perfect world- yours does.
-Penguin
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This very same occurance happened to me, and I did exactly what he (big guy) did, though a bit more violent.
I sent that pssy little bich through a window.
I 'neutralized' his truck
not THATS excessive
But him and his little gang left me alone after that because they were convinced I was bat S crazy.. which, to be honest, isn't far from the truth
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But him and his little gang left me alone after that because they were convinced I was bat S crazy.. which, to be honest, isn't far from the truth
I think we've noticed :devil
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i can't believe people are still arguing with you on this but...that is not exactly what you have said all along...you refused to acknowledge that the chubby kid, obviously faced not only with a scrawny schoolyard bully but the bullies friends as well...(one of which was at least as big as the chubby kid)...showed a lot of restraint when he didn't pursue any further actions against the bully after slamming him into the ground...and you were wrong, as the chubby kid was obviously not a fighter as anyone who has studied martial arts could plainly see...he simply did what he could given his abilities and the situation...which is also taught in martial arts.
then you repeatedly equated the physical damage that could be achieved with a body slam with the physical damage that could be achieved with a pile driver...and you were wrong there as well.
then throughout your series of non sequitur b.s. posts you have repeatedly switched from being picked on...to being the bully (punching an 11 yr old just for fun)...looking at your drop kick anecdote along with the other crap about your personal experiences throughout this discussion...the drop kick was obviously an attack from behind...and if your victim had to wear a neck brace, he was struck between the shoulders, not the head...which was not a very "high flying feat"...getting struck from behind with any force between the shoulders will cause the neck to snap backward causing whiplash...the same effect can be caused by a rapid forceful push with your hands...a strike to the head from behind would not have the same effect.
not that it really matters, but bruce lee never performed drop kicks since they leave you vulnerable and are just as dangerous to the person performing the kick as you attempt to recover as they are to the person being attacked...and anyone who studied his martial arts form would know that...even a kid.
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