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Title: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: oneway on April 13, 2011, 11:27:30 PM
Orange locked out solid for near an hour now...

Even re logging changes nothing

All of my squadies are in Orange and the Arena is STATIC

Arena Cap stuff is not working at all for this paying customer

Out

Oneway
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: 321BAR on April 13, 2011, 11:29:40 PM
theres a bug that when caps drop below the amount of players in the arena, the "number" of people in the arena goes to the max the cap allows until the "actual number of people in the arena" finally stabilizes. basically there may be 251/100 but it says 100/100.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Hoff on April 13, 2011, 11:30:08 PM
Hurrrrrrrr let's make a massively multiplayer video game, but let's do our own take on it........only 100 players per server.

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 13, 2011, 11:32:30 PM
Hurrrrrrrr let's make a massively multiplayer video game, but let's do our own take on it........only 100 players per server.

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

That is actually one of HTC's options he has floated.

What would I do?

GO TO THE OTHER ARENA

Invite your skwad.


wrongway
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: oneway on April 13, 2011, 11:38:47 PM
theres a bug that when caps drop below the amount of players in the arena, the "number" of people in the arena goes to the max the cap allows until the "actual number of people in the arena" finally stabilizes. basically there may be 251/100 but it says 100/100.

Yep...

It has to be a bug

All of my squad mates are in Orange...just pm'd them from lobby and they are reporting the pop on the arena has no bearing with the cap set on the arena menu

Great

Oneway
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: AAJagerX on April 13, 2011, 11:39:20 PM
It's not as simple as going to the other arena.  I've been watching for over an hour now.  Orange has been 100/100, while blue has been 130/200 at certain points.  Blue's cap won't drop from 200, and Orange won't go up from 100.  Orange hasn't changed since 10:30 CST.  What's really funny is that it's the SAME map in both arenas.  The only difference is that there's absolutely no action in Blue.

It's like a schizophrenic Titanic Tuesday.


Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Hoff on April 13, 2011, 11:39:24 PM
Yup, that's exactly why I pay 15 bucks a month, so that I can work towards something and then throw it away to fight on a different map.......Hell no, I pay it so that I can get a sense of accomplishment by taking a base in a persistent world so that I can come back later and keep working on it.

If I wanted to fight on a different map every time I logged in I would've bought IL-2 or something with better graphics. Hell, I'm pretty sure even IL-2 has 32 or 64 player servers and you don't have to pay monthly for that nor does it claim to be massive.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: AAJagerX on April 13, 2011, 11:43:29 PM
Yup, that's exactly why I pay 15 bucks a month, so that I can work towards something and then throw it away to fight on a different map.......Hell no, I pay it so that I can get a sense of accomplishment by taking a base in a persistent world so that I can come back later and keep working on it.

If I wanted to fight on a different map every time I logged in I would've bought IL-2 or something with better graphics. Hell, I'm pretty sure even IL-2 has 32 or 64 player servers and you don't have to pay monthly for that nor does it claim to be massive.

Well, I wouldn't go that far.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Rino on April 13, 2011, 11:47:33 PM
Yup, that's exactly why I pay 15 bucks a month, so that I can work towards something and then throw it away to fight on a different map.......Hell no, I pay it so that I can get a sense of accomplishment by taking a base in a persistent world so that I can come back later and keep working on it.

If I wanted to fight on a different map every time I logged in I would've bought IL-2 or something with better graphics. Hell, I'm pretty sure even IL-2 has 32 or 64 player servers and you don't have to pay monthly for that nor does it claim to be massive.

     If it's not fun, take a break.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: moot on April 13, 2011, 11:48:02 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,309083.msg3993102.html#msg3993102
"We have changed the % of players needed from 70% to 80% to raise the cap on the opposite arena."

Would that mean you need 200*0.8 = 160 players in ... whatever the 200 cap arena is, for the other arena to raise its cap?
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Raphael on April 13, 2011, 11:58:42 PM
Yup, that's exactly why I pay 15 bucks a month, so that I can work towards something and then throw it away to fight on a different map.......Hell no, I pay it so that I can get a sense of accomplishment by taking a base in a persistent world so that I can come back later and keep working on it.

If I wanted to fight on a different map every time I logged in I would've bought IL-2 or something with better graphics. Hell, I'm pretty sure even IL-2 has 32 or 64 player servers and you don't have to pay monthly for that nor does it claim to be massive.
well actually in some servers there are 128 people :) but you need the mods with the graphic improvments and stuff, but it is a whole different game than AHII and that is why I like both.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 14, 2011, 12:23:32 AM
It's been said before and it'll be said again, the 100/100 number is not a bug.
It's a recently changed 'feature'.

Hurrrrrrrr let's make a massively multiplayer video game, but let's do our own take on it........only 100 players per server.

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Yes, I do suppose you have quite some time to learn how HTC works and
how they run their 'massively multiplayer video game'.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Hoff on April 14, 2011, 12:45:29 AM
    If it's not fun, take a break.

It's not that it isn't fun, it's that I can't even play. The blue arena is stale and I spent my time helping orange arena to take bases, I don't just want to leave all that progress behind. Arena caps and multiple arenas in general completely contradict the persistent world selling point.


It's been said before and it'll be said again, the 100/100 number is not a bug.
It's a recently changed 'feature'.

Yes, I do suppose you have quite some time to learn how HTC works and
how they run their 'massively multiplayer video game'.


They advertise the game as massive and persistent. Implementing things that contradict their advertisement is a little silly.


They may keep their old veteran players by doing silly things like this, but newer players like me (granted, I'm not saying all new players think like me, but I've beta tested and played enough mmos to have a general feel for gamers my age) won't put up with stuff like this. You can berate me for not liking it, but it's my 15 bucks a month and I feel entitled to at least voice my concerns. I don't feel entitled to direct the game the way I want, but I'd at least like to think that I can have my opinion be heard by the developer without having to talk with my wallet.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: moot on April 14, 2011, 12:46:57 AM
Hoff the game wouldn't have as many players, IE be less massive, if it hadn't gone to the cap formula.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Hoff on April 14, 2011, 12:47:58 AM
Hoff the game wouldn't have as many players, IE be less massive, if it hadn't gone to the cap formula.


Why's that?
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Guppy35 on April 14, 2011, 12:48:44 AM
It's not that it isn't fun, it's that I can't even play. The blue arena is stale and I spent my time helping orange arena to take bases, I don't just want to leave all that progress behind. Arena caps and multiple arenas in general completely contradict the persistent world selling point.



They advertise the game as massive and persistent. Implementing things that contradict their advertisement is a little silly.

Hmmm, we had some pretty good fights in Blue not too long after your whine on 200 about the cap.

I'm half convinced you are a shade now hoff, as you've grumbled about all kinds of things since you started the game 2 weeks ago.  No one that new can spend that much time being miserable in a cartoon airplane game.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Soulyss on April 14, 2011, 12:49:07 AM
Not a bug or glitch, see this thread.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,309479.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,309479.0.html)

Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Hoff on April 14, 2011, 12:54:12 AM
Hmmm, we had some pretty good fights in Blue not too long after your whine on 200 about the cap.

I'm half convinced you are a shade now hoff, as you've grumbled about all kinds of things since you started the game 2 weeks ago.  No one that new can spend that much time being miserable in a cartoon airplane game.


I don't get it.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Rino on April 14, 2011, 12:55:00 AM
Hmmm, we had some pretty good fights in Blue not too long after your whine on 200 about the cap.

I'm half convinced you are a shade now hoff, as you've grumbled about all kinds of things since you started the game 2 weeks ago.  No one that new can spend that much time being miserable in a cartoon airplane game.

     Don't think it's a fight he's looking for Guppy.  He wants to get into the arena he's been trying to landgrab.
Evidently the bases in Blue are completely different  :lol
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: moot on April 14, 2011, 12:57:33 AM

Why's that?
I don't know, but players made it clear by not subscribing as much before the caps, once the arenas were past a certain population threshold.. And subscribing more after caps were added.  IE subscription growth with caps, stagnation without.

Shade means a dupe account.  He's saying you're an old player resubscribed under new name.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Hoff on April 14, 2011, 01:00:15 AM
I don't know, but players made it clear by not subscribing as much before the caps, once the arenas were past a certain population threshold.. And subscribing more after caps were added.  IE subscription growth with caps, stagnation without.

Shade means a dupe account.  He's saying you're an old player resubscribed under new name.


Odd, I figured this game's best quality was the fact that you're fighting a war and it's persistent and that you can fight in giant battles of 100v100 or more. It has the duel arena for smaller furballs.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: moot on April 14, 2011, 01:04:30 AM
100 v 100 is what you find in scenarios.. Not so much in arenas, except on Tuesdays where the LW arena is uncapped.  Even then, I'm pretty sure you rarely/ever have 100v100 within icon or even dot range.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Hoff on April 14, 2011, 01:06:55 AM
100 v 100 is what you find in scenarios.. Not so much in arenas, except on Tuesdays.  Even then, I'm pretty sure you rarely/ever have 100v100 within icon or even dot range.

Right, I was just talking about 100 players on a team vs. 100 other players, I could have worded it better. It makes the fights bigger and lets more things happen at the same time. More bomber raids with air cover, more furballs in general, more ground battles, more cv battles. With 30 players per team there really isn't much you can do. You can do some stuff with your squad (provided you can all get in the same arena) but the bigger raids wouldn't work. You'll either have everyone on your team at one base or you'll be thinned out across the map.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: AAJagerX on April 14, 2011, 01:08:43 AM
Hmmm, we had some pretty good fights in Blue not too long after your whine on 200 about the cap.

I'm half convinced you are a shade now hoff, as you've grumbled about all kinds of things since you started the game 2 weeks ago.  No one that new can spend that much time being miserable in a cartoon airplane game.

Dan, I wondered about that...  Wasn't gonna say anything though.  The terminology was the give away.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: DMGOD on April 14, 2011, 01:15:42 AM
Don't orange and blue both have the same map?
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: AAJagerX on April 14, 2011, 01:18:07 AM
Don't orange and blue both have the same map?

As of 18 minutes ago they did.  Let's see what happens tomorrow.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Guppy35 on April 14, 2011, 01:38:47 AM

I don't get it.

As a new player way back when in Airwarrior, I was still amazed at what the game was allowing me to do at two weeks.  I certainly hadn't reached a point where I was already going to tell the maker of that game that he had it all wrong.  We paid a lot more then 15 bucks a month for our flying  time then too :)

Maybe just flying for a bit and enjoying what the game has to offer might be the way to go.  See if an FSO squad has an opening on Fridays.  Sign up for the next scenario.  Fly a Snapshot.  You'll get more of that 'war' you seem to be looking for.

Anytime I've seen you in the arena you seem to expect this, that or the other thing, and nothing works the way you want it to.  Tonight was no different with the CAP whine.  As I said, we had some really decent fights going on.  It doesn't take 300 people to make that happen.   To me that whine sounds like an old timer who has played too much and is looking for a way to grumble thinking it's the game and not himself that's the problem.  Most of us have been there at one time or another, but not at two weeks of playing a new game.  That's what makes me sometimes think you are a shade trying to get a rise out of folks.  If the game is that miserable for you, I'd suggest finding another. 
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 14, 2011, 02:45:59 AM
Silly me.

Went to Blue shortly after I posted on the first page. 114/120. Played about ten minutes, lost UDP (new router  :( ) and lo and behold, Orange was 94/100.

So, the arena that was full had maybe ten more players in it on the same map. There were no better fights there either.

 :cry ??

 :neener:


wrongway
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: caldera on April 14, 2011, 06:02:00 AM

Odd, I figured this game's best quality was the fact that you're fighting a war and it's persistent and that you can fight in giant battles of 100v100 or more. It has the duel arena for smaller furballs.

Odd indeed.  I thought this game's best quality was that you have unlimited combat sorties (and never die) in the coolest military hardware ever devised. 
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: ebfd11 on April 14, 2011, 08:57:46 AM
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Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: curry1 on April 14, 2011, 10:11:16 AM
theres a bug that when caps drop below the amount of players in the arena, the "number" of people in the arena goes to the max the cap allows until the "actual number of people in the arena" finally stabilizes. basically there may be 251/100 but it says 100/100.

Its a feature not a bug.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: BigR on April 14, 2011, 10:59:19 AM
They probably implemented this so people wouldn't see the 102/100 and then proceed to hammer their login server by quitting and coming back on to the game every 5 seconds to see if the number has changed.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Hoff on April 14, 2011, 11:10:19 AM
They probably implemented this so people wouldn't see the 102/100 and then proceed to hammer their login server by quitting and coming back on to the game every 5 seconds to see if the number has changed.

Doesn't change anything. If I want into the arena I will log in and out over and over till I get in. I know a ton of other people do the same. To remedy this, they can remove the cap or add a queue in, otherwise I'll keep spamming to get in.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: K-KEN on April 14, 2011, 11:15:43 AM
I found that if I drop my ISP Connection, and it's DHCP assigns a new IP addy to my PC, it shows a different number in the arena. It went from Full to like 150/400.  
That has been my workaround. My company does a lot of load balancing-especially with our Citrix servers-that sometimes messes with our users. ipconfig /release and then ipconfig /renew will also accomplish that unless folks use a "static" IP address or router/modem.

Try it.   :O   :D  If it doesn't work.....shoot me down.   :airplane:
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: BigR on April 14, 2011, 11:18:24 AM
Doesn't change anything. If I want into the arena I will log in and out over and over till I get in. I know a ton of other people do the same. To remedy this, they can remove the cap or add a queue in, otherwise I'll keep spamming to get in.
If it doesn't change anything, why are you even whining about it? You obviously love the attention... Just keep doing what you did before...spam till you get in. People who value their time may just say screw it and go in to the other arena. We have been down this road so many times before with arena caps...I know people say you are some shade or whatever, but you MUST be a noob to rehash this same old crap.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: gyrene81 on April 14, 2011, 11:20:25 AM
Doesn't change anything. If I want into the arena I will log in and out over and over till I get in. I know a ton of other people do the same. To remedy this, they can remove the cap or add a queue in, otherwise I'll keep spamming to get in.
and you will continue to be disappointed...change your attitude and the way you see things will follow...unless you really enjoy being disappointed by your own expectations.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: DrBone1 on April 14, 2011, 11:40:17 AM
Doesn't change anything. If I want into the arena I will log in and out over and over till I get in. I know a ton of other people do the same. To remedy this, they can remove the cap or add a queue in, otherwise I'll keep spamming to get in.
:aok I do the same.Notice they change things without telling the community  :cry :cry
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: DrBone1 on April 14, 2011, 11:43:13 AM
One thing you need to learn HOFF if you put something here in GD and other ppl dont agree with it they will bash you.Best to watch what you say around these wolves  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Reaper90 on April 14, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,309083.msg3993102.html#msg3993102
"We have changed the % of players needed from 70% to 80% to raise the cap on the opposite arena."

Would that mean you need 200*0.8 = 160 players in ... whatever the 200 cap arena is, for the other arena to raise its cap?

If your math is correct, moot, then this would actually seem to be exacerbating the problem, not helping it, as it would cause the locked arena to stay locked longer, and the unlocked arena to have to grow in population even further (beyond that of the locked arena) before the locked arena unlocks.

example

orange 100/100 locked
blue 75/150 open

blue would have to populate to at least 120 (80%) before orange would unlock, instead of 105 (70%) as before. How is this helping?

I wish it meant the unlocked arena's population would have to be 80% of the locked arena's before the locked arena would unlock, as in:

orange 100/100 locked
blue 79/150 open

then when this happens:

blue 80/150 (blue now has 80% of orange)

this will follow:

orange 100/150 open

at this point orange will stay open until it hits 150, then the lock and the same process starts over.

But I'm pretty sure that's not how it works, unfortunately.

Edit: That all being said, 100 is a rediculously low number for a cap on a LW arena, especially if that arena has a large map. The minimum number of players for a good variety of fights on all fronts is probably closer to 200, maybe 150 on a small map. No LW arena should ever be capped at less than 150, regardless of what the other arena is doing.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: VonMessa on April 14, 2011, 11:46:04 AM
 :noid
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: BigR on April 14, 2011, 12:03:41 PM
One thing you need to learn HOFF if you put something here in GD and other ppl dont agree with it they will bash you.Best to watch what you say around these wolves  :rolleyes:

Yeah because him saying stuff like "Hurrrrrrrr let's make a massively multiplayer video game, but let's do our own take on it........only 100 players per server. HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" is very constructive. He deserves to get flamed. For one he sounds like a complete retard (good one dude..you've been to 4chan..you are hip and with it on the internetz) 2. He obviously misrepresents the issue considering that the servers are NOT capped at 100...When one is capped the other is always open. He can continue to hammer the login server like he used to. Nothing has changed. Making retarded comments like his isn't exactly going to light a fire under HTC to make changes either.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: grizz441 on April 14, 2011, 12:18:28 PM
Whoa whoa whoa.  Everybody just hold yer horses.

So correct if I'm wrong, but the 100/100 thing is basically just saying that the arena is "Full" correct?  As in, there are more than 100 people in there, but that is what it lists as?

If that is the case, I generally agree with the concept but I disagree with the methodology implemented.  When it says "100/100" it's confusing because you do not know whether there are actually 100/100 and you can be the next one in, or if it's actually 150/100 and you mgiht as well go to the other arena.

In my opinion, it should simply say "Full", but here's the kicker with that.  IF the arena is only 5 players over its max, it should list that number of players, so the players wanting in when it is close can get in with a few exit outs.  To illustrate my example:

Corresponding arena listings with a 200 player cap:
.
.
.
198/200
199/200
200/200
201/200
202/200
203/200
204/200
205/200
FULL
FULL
.
.
.
etc.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: BigR on April 14, 2011, 01:26:19 PM
Whoa whoa whoa.  Everybody just hold yer horses.

So correct if I'm wrong, but the 100/100 thing is basically just saying that the arena is "Full" correct?  As in, there are more than 100 people in there, but that is what it lists as?

If that is the case, I generally agree with the concept but I disagree with the methodology implemented.  When it says "100/100" it's confusing because you do not know whether there are actually 100/100 and you can be the next one in, or if it's actually 150/100 and you mgiht as well go to the other arena.

In my opinion, it should simply say "Full", but here's the kicker with that.  IF the arena is only 5 players over its max, it should list that number of players, so the players wanting in when it is close can get in with a few exit outs.  To illustrate my example:

Corresponding arena listings with a 200 player cap:
.
.
.
198/200
199/200
200/200
201/200
202/200
203/200
204/200
205/200
FULL
FULL
.
.
.
etc.

Good idea...that is probably the best way to display it.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Solar10 on April 14, 2011, 01:28:02 PM
Right, I was just talking about 100 players on a team vs. 100 other players, I could have worded it better. It makes the fights bigger and lets more things happen at the same time. More bomber raids with air cover, more furballs in general, more ground battles, more cv battles. With 30 players per team there really isn't much you can do. You can do some stuff with your squad (provided you can all get in the same arena) but the bigger raids wouldn't work. You'll either have everyone on your team at one base or you'll be thinned out across the map.

Hmm.  Have you not just contradicted yourself here (bold)?

Have you ever been in 100 v 100 battles.   I have prior to caps.  They really are not fun.  You don't get more bomber raids with air cover, more furballs in general, more ground battles, more cv battles. You just get bigger and bigger hordes, fighting at 3-4 bases.  When we had an arena with 600-700 people in it, it was not fun.  Many people tend to forget those days and just remember the days before them when numbers were lower and one arena worked.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: kvuo75 on April 14, 2011, 02:33:33 PM
Doesn't change anything. If I want into the arena I will log in and out over and over till I get in. I know a ton of other people do the same. To remedy this, they can remove the cap or add a queue in, otherwise I'll keep spamming to get in.

sounds pretty boring to me...  :huh
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: kvuo75 on April 14, 2011, 02:37:43 PM
If that is the case, I generally agree with the concept but I disagree with the methodology implemented.  When it says "100/100" it's confusing because you do not know whether there are actually 100/100 and you can be the next one in, or if it's actually 150/100 and you mgiht as well go to the other arena.

if everyone just went to the other arena (the one open to them at the time), there would be no problems.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Shuffler on April 14, 2011, 03:20:31 PM
It's not that it isn't fun, it's that I can't even play. The blue arena is stale and I spent my time helping orange arena to take bases, I don't just want to leave all that progress behind. Arena caps and multiple arenas in general completely contradict the persistent world selling point.



They advertise the game as massive and persistent. Implementing things that contradict their advertisement is a little silly.


They may keep their old veteran players by doing silly things like this, but newer players like me (granted, I'm not saying all new players think like me, but I've beta tested and played enough mmos to have a general feel for gamers my age) won't put up with stuff like this. You can berate me for not liking it, but it's my 15 bucks a month and I feel entitled to at least voice my concerns. I don't feel entitled to direct the game the way I want, but I'd at least like to think that I can have my opinion be heard by the developer without having to talk with my wallet.



Maybe you put too much emphasis on farming....
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: grizz441 on April 14, 2011, 03:26:54 PM
if everyone just went to the other arena (the one open to them at the time), there would be no problems.

Not true and you know it.

Besides, people can't coordinate outside of the game to "all go" somewhere.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: StokesAk on April 14, 2011, 03:39:57 PM
The cap is there to put the new people logging in into the arena that has low numbers. By doing this it raises the population of that arena. Once the arena population is at 80% of the more populated one the cap on the more populated one will be raised. It typically stays like this for a few hours.

You just have to wait it out and sit in the other arena, logging in and out wont do anything to make the numbers change, but putting your self in the low numbers arena will make it a fraction of a percent higher population, hopefully others will do the same and the more populated arena will be opened. Simple as that.

Caps are put in place to balance the numbers between arenas out so we don't have this ses pool of players in the arena at once.

If you don't like it log on earlier and get a spot in the high numbers arena, or fly on Tuesdays.

P.S.- Insinuating that the game developers are mentally handicapped, is not the right way to go. If Skuzzy or HiTech get in this thread, it is best to drop the point.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: kvuo75 on April 14, 2011, 03:45:15 PM
Not true and you know it.

Besides, people can't coordinate outside of the game to "all go" somewhere.

but your own example before, if it was 105/100 people will sit around not playing (they apparently prefer clicking on the arena screen). if it's 150/100 they should "just go to the other arena"

just go to the other arena in the first place, is all I'm saying..
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: grizz441 on April 14, 2011, 03:51:07 PM
but your own example before, if it was 105/100 people will sit around not playing (they apparently prefer clicking on the arena screen). if it's 150/100 they should "just go to the other arena"

just go to the other arena in the first place, is all I'm saying..


If all your squaddies were in orange and it was 201/200 you wouldn't try to get in orange?  Come on.

My 5 over was a compromised "grey area" for how long you should try for before just going to the other arena.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: kvuo75 on April 14, 2011, 03:53:54 PM
If all your squaddies were in orange and it was 201/200 you wouldn't try to get in orange?  Come on.

honestly, no. I frequently am one of two or 3 in one arena, when 2 or 3 are in the other.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: grizz441 on April 14, 2011, 03:55:18 PM
honestly, no. I frequently am one of two or 3 in one arena, when 2 or 3 are in the other.

Okay so you don't like flying with your squaddies, bad example, but the normal player would try to get in if it was close, as opposed to getting all of his buddies to change arenas.  Just sayin.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: kvuo75 on April 14, 2011, 04:02:51 PM
Okay so you don't like flying with your squaddies, bad example, but the normal player would try to get in if it was close, as opposed to getting all of his buddies to change arenas.  Just sayin.

we can still chitchat on red channel across arenas, we dont need to fly together every minute were online.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: grizz441 on April 14, 2011, 04:09:48 PM
we can still chitchat on red channel across arenas, we dont need to fly together every minute were online.

That's cute, but most players like to fly with their squaddies.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: kvuo75 on April 14, 2011, 04:20:12 PM
That's cute, but most players like to fly with their squaddies.

yes they do.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: gyrene81 on April 14, 2011, 05:23:32 PM
honestly, no. I frequently am one of two or 3 in one arena, when 2 or 3 are in the other.
same here...and if the ones in the capped arena don't switch, they check the numbers periodically to see if any spots have opened up and we decide what to do from there.

why grow men have to act like temperamental toddlers and remove all doubt that they are temperamental toddlers with some of the crapola posted in this thread is just amazing...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Shuffler on April 14, 2011, 05:44:46 PM
Lots of folks to fly with.... if you limit yourself to only squaddies you only get to see a small part of the game.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: TheDudeDVant on April 14, 2011, 09:09:03 PM
Lots of folks to fly with.... if you limit yourself to only squaddies you only get to see a small part of the game.

Yea, but its the best part of the game.. 8)
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 15, 2011, 09:32:42 AM
No problems getting into either arena last night when I logged on.
The real downside was the same sucky map thats in dire need of revisions thats been in orange for the last week. Was also in blue.
Went into orange and while I was dissapointed that map was still up I looked for something to do. Sacrificed 30 perks on a panther to spawn into a base that became quickly evident we were already hording. Then seeing a port flashing and a small darbar near it went and upped a FP there only to watch 2 38s fly in take out the VH and one auger. the other just flew off never to return. I waited for the goon that never came. The only other base we were involved with we were hording also so I decided to go look in blue.
Was even more dissapointed to see the exact same map up that was in Orange and even less going on there. Jumped in a CV gun and fired a few rounds at a cruiser from another CV that became evident the carrier was already sunk. Looked around the map. There was one base we were hording but nothing else really going on.

So I just logged off out of disgust.

These maps in question need one more hole blown in each mountain to improve flow from one country to the next to encourage more fighting.
the numbers in the arenas these days just dont make these maps in their current form practical IMO
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Shuffler on April 15, 2011, 10:42:24 AM
Yea, but its the best part of the game.. 8)

How would you know if you limit yourself?? :)
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Reaper90 on April 15, 2011, 10:44:29 AM
See rule #4
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 15, 2011, 11:57:28 AM
For quote of #4
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: TheDudeDVant on April 15, 2011, 03:10:18 PM
How would you know if you limit yourself?? :)

Cause I've seen it all and know by default that I am not limiting myself.. I see all the other folk too.. I'm just normally shooting at them.. 8)
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: TheDudeDVant on April 15, 2011, 03:13:31 PM
I have to say the cap changes seem very well done now.. Been awhile since I've had trouble going where I wanted..

but..........

plz plz plz plzzzzzzzz!! stop the madness with that terrible map that is up in BOTH arenas...
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Gooss on April 15, 2011, 03:19:25 PM
I am so grateful for another arena cap thread. 

HONK!
Gooss
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Shuffler on April 15, 2011, 03:21:03 PM
Cause I've seen it all and know by default that I am not limiting myself.. I see all the other folk too.. I'm just normally shooting at them.. 8)


Then you don't limit yourself to just your squad as you said.

Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: BaldEagl on April 15, 2011, 08:26:24 PM
The cap thing looks bugged to me.  The last few times I've logged on Orange was locked at 100/100 while Blue was more like 120/150 or someting like that.  So why isn't Orange ever raising the cap if it's not a bug?
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: moot on April 15, 2011, 08:43:38 PM
100/100 could be 100/100 or any number >100.  IE you don't see how many extra players there are, if there are any, above cap.
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: kvuo75 on April 15, 2011, 09:23:41 PM
The cap thing looks bugged to me.  The last few times I've logged on Orange was locked at 100/100 while Blue was more like 120/150 or someting like that.  So why isn't Orange ever raising the cap if it's not a bug?

it was explained hundreds of times. (go to bug forum and find a "cap bug" thread). once an arena hits cap, it does not show the overage. orange might be 164/100 and blue 120/150.. it will show orange as 100/100 to encourage people into blue. hitech says it's intentional.



Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: NatCigg on April 15, 2011, 09:33:05 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,309083.msg3993102.html#msg3993102
"We have changed the % of players needed from 70% to 80% to raise the cap on the opposite arena."

Would that mean you need 200*0.8 = 160 players in ... whatever the 200 cap arena is, for the other arena to raise its cap?

i think its means 70% of the number of players in the other arena.

arena 1 100/100 locked
arena 2 then needs 70/100 to unlock arena 1
thus building two arenas
Title: Re: Orange Solid Locked Out at 100/100
Post by: Lusche on April 15, 2011, 09:42:12 PM
i think its means 70% of the number of players in the other arena.


That's how it used to be. Now 80%