Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CAP1 on April 26, 2011, 09:15:09 PM
-
with all of the car threads, and talking about this problem, and that problem...........how, or why does it still feel like just yesterday when jobs that seem stupidly simple to me, seemed like they were gonna take me all day?
i mean jobs like replacing timing belts(99% are scary easy), replacing drive axles, brakes, shocks(well, mostly not hard), struts, springs, etc.
these things are so simple i almost think one could train a chimp to do them. yet it feels like yesterday when some of those jobs actually seemed hard to me, even though it's been nearly 30 years.
diagnosing is almost the same. you guys probably remember the ford tempo i mentioned in that other thread(the one that i still haven't heard kgb admit he was wrong over). that tempo kept me busy with my dvom, the shops mitchell manuals, a breakout box, and let me start messing with a fluke 97A. THREE FRIGGIN DAYS!!
yet today, it is rare for it to take me longer than one hour to figure out nearly any no-start, driveability problem, CEL problem, or emissions failure.
it makes me feel old, because it seems as if someone flipped a switch, and suddenly, i'm 49, rather than 19.
anyway....that's all i got for now...gonna go watch the military channel a little more........
-
May i ask...was this needed? no offense sir
but I hear ya. Simple tings now seem like just yesterday they were a pain in the arse to begin figuring out.
-
May i ask...was this needed? no offense sir
but I hear ya. Simple tings now seem like just yesterday they were a pain in the arse to begin figuring out.
it was kinda just a rant of sorts.....wondering where the time went, etc.......
and a break from the half dozen complaints about the update.......
-
it was kinda just a rant of sorts.....wondering where the time went, etc.......
and a break from the half dozen complaints about the update.......
true true. nice seeing something other then update issues.
-
true true. nice seeing something other then update issues.
yea..........what i typed in the op, i was talking to my uncle about the other day....not the car stuff....but the "where did the time go" part.
it's weird, 'cause just going through my day, in my mind, i feel the same as i did 30 years ago. then my body does something silly like ache or something to remind me that i'm not.
then i look in gthe mirror, and see a nearly totally grey beard(when i'm not clean shaven), and the serious lack of hair on top of my head...and then i stand there wondering when all that crap happened.
-
The other day I looked at a picture of my when I was 7 or 8. I thought I still feel the same I did back then, what has changed? Last year went by so fast. So much has happened, and It just seems like life goes by really fast.
-
Deffinitly scary. Wish i could back to youth hockey...ben at it for 14 years and it feels like ive played. :frown:
-
The other day I looked at a picture of my when I was 7 or 8. I thought I still feel the same I did back then, what has changed? Last year went by so fast. So much has happened, and It just seems like life goes by really fast.
that's just a younger version of what i'm talking about.
-
Deffinitly scary. Wish i could back to youth hockey...ben at it for 14 years and it feels like ive played. :frown:
i kinda wish i could jump in a TARDIS, and go back to when i was a teen. i'd only change one thing.
i'd treat mom, and my grandparents with a LOT more respect than i showed back then.......
-
Come on over to lexus and we'll let you replace valve springs on the LS600h hybrid or get paid 3.4 hours to pull the dash, steering column, console, dashboard cross support, remove the a/c core box to replace the a/c evaporator.
Diagnosis requiring multi-meters is still big and I fielded sometimes from 15 to 40 calls per day from some angry tech. who claims we "blue streak/standard motor products" sold him 3 bad control units.
On fords, I find the dpfe sensor (formerly egr sensor) compromises the 5v reference voltage signal......which is divined by the same power supply that runs the ecu.
Tough diagnosis and repair is still out there.
-
Come on over to lexus and we'll let you replace valve springs on the LS600h hybrid or get paid 3.4 hours to pull the dash, steering column, console, dashboard cross support, remove the a/c core box to replace the a/c evaporator.
Diagnosis requiring multi-meters is still big and I fielded sometimes from 15 to 40 calls per day from some angry tech. who claims we "blue streak/standard motor products" sold him 3 bad control units.
On fords, I find the dpfe sensor (formerly egr sensor) compromises the 5v reference voltage signal......which is divined by the same power supply that runs the ecu.
Tough diagnosis and repair is still out there.
why would you only get paid 3.4 for a job that calls for 7.3 hours?
the ford dpfe sensors? 99% of the time, if you've got a code p0401, you've got a bad dpfe sensor. can you say moisture?
and yes, there are some toughies out there.........i am suspecting you've missed the point i was making though.......
-
You got thinking Cap? Dont hurt yourself now :D
Im 17 mate, and im starting to feel old looking at all my baby cousins. Now 5th graders. :rolleyes: this aging thing blows.
-
diagnosing is almost the same. you guys probably remember the ford tempo i mentioned in that other thread(the one that i still haven't heard kgb admit he was wrong over).
OMG ! He mentioned my name... :rock
I stopped reading that thread after entire Aces High community from school boy to Almighty Skuzzy himself decided that somehow your 30 years of experience was not enough to argue and jumped on me.
If it makes you happy then i was wrong.
-
OMG ! He mentioned my name... :rock
I stopped reading that thread after entire Aces High community from school boy to Almighty Skuzzy himself decided that somehow your 30 years of experience was not enough to argue and jumped on me.
If it makes you happy then i was wrong.
:rofl
it's nothing personal. :aok
-
You got thinking Cap? Dont hurt yourself now :D
Im 17 mate, and im starting to feel old looking at all my baby cousins. Now 5th graders. :rolleyes: this aging thing blows.
yea....most of the time when i think, i generally either hurt myself, or get someone seriously pissed off at me. :D
EDIT
i also didn't view it as the community "jumping" on you, and truly believe that had the positions been reversed, the exact opposite would have happened.
that isn't/wasn't the point of the op though.......i feel like an old guy........ :cry
-
yea....most of the time when i think, i generally either hurt myself, or get someone seriously pissed off at me. :D
EDIT
i also didn't view it as the community "jumping" on you, and truly believe that had the positions been reversed, the exact opposite would have happened.
that isn't/wasn't the point of the op though.......i feel like an old guy........ :cry
Oy Cap. I seriously doubt that some female with no knowledge whatsoever would argue with you had our positions been reversed. Favoritism is not uncommon on AH forum. End of hijack.
-
why would you only get paid 3.4 for a job that calls for 7.3 hours?
the ford dpfe sensors? 99% of the time, if you've got a code p0401, you've got a bad dpfe sensor. can you say moisture?
and yes, there are some toughies out there.........i am suspecting you've missed the point i was making though.......
Mitchell and factory warranty times are not the same.
-
Mitchell and factory warranty times are not the same.
i know this. i also know that there will not be a 4 hour discrepancy between the two.
-
Curious how much labor time mitchell gives to replace the valve springs on a lexus GS450h.
I haven't used mitchell for labor at all at lexus.
-
Curious how much labor time mitchell gives to replace the valve springs on a lexus GS450h.
I haven't used mitchell for labor at all at lexus.
i used motor. i'll look it up soonz i finish this timing belt.
i friggin LOVE the old escort timing belts. new belt, water pump, belt tensioner, and only an hours work.
calls for 26.4 hours. and this is one of the biggest differences between warranty and normal time i've seen......19.7 waranty time. it notes that that time includes r&r of the cylinder heads.
can you not do it on the car like we can others?
-
We get paid 6 hours.......but we don't remove the cylinder heads.
Technical instructions for the v6.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/gs-third-generation/190737d1288977244-list-of-tsib-recalls-campaigns-for-3gs-valve-spring-recall-l-cp-ale-a520-d-part-1-.pdf
Warranty sucks..........but we had some guy actually turn 468 hours in a month doing nothing but these recalls on the V8s which pay 12 hours.
-
We get paid 6 hours.......but we don't remove the cylinder heads.
Technical instructions for the v6.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/gs-third-generation/190737d1288977244-list-of-tsib-recalls-campaigns-for-3gs-valve-spring-recall-l-cp-ale-a520-d-part-1-.pdf
Warranty sucks..........but we had some guy actually turn 468 hours in a month doing nothing but these recalls on the V8s which pay 12 hours.
so motor's warranty time listed is off? by that much? i didn't think you guys were pulling the heads off.......most times it's too easy to get them simply by putting air pressure in the cylinder.
that being said....i friggin HATE flat rate, and will not work for flat rate again if i can help it. i also will never pay a tech flat rate either, unless he seems to be taking advantage fo me, and/or sandbagging jobs.
-
Changing the lexus springs is nearly identical to doing it on the DOHC ford mod motors.
I suspect both are descendents of an old yamaha patent or at least influenced greatly by it.
-
"so i got to thinking "
Haven't I told you numerous times to stop that.
-
Today, 1999 F 350 super duty, 5.4l. No charging voltage, 4 hours later i repaired fusible link from starter relay to alternator. Now i have to try and return brand new alternator to suppler... you not the only one Cap.
-
Changing the lexus springs is nearly identical to doing it on the DOHC ford mod motors.
I suspect both are descendents of an old yamaha patent or at least influenced greatly by it.
if you're referencing the DOHC 4.6 ford engine.....it appears to me to be a take off of the old 427 cammer.
-
Today, 1999 F 350 super duty, 5.4l. No charging voltage, 4 hours later i repaired fusible link from starter relay to alternator. Now i have to try and return brand new alternator to suppler... you not the only one Cap.
that kinda sucks. what caused the fuse link to blow?
-
"so i got to thinking "
Haven't I told you numerous times to stop that.
yea, ya have. you keep trying to be a good friend, but every time you turn your back, i revert to my old ways. at least i didn't injure myself this time. :noid
-
that kinda sucks. what caused the fuse link to blow?
I suspect alcohol and narcotics
-
We get paid 6 hours.......but we don't remove the cylinder heads.
Technical instructions for the v6.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/gs-third-generation/190737d1288977244-list-of-tsib-recalls-campaigns-for-3gs-valve-spring-recall-l-cp-ale-a520-d-part-1-.pdf
Warranty sucks..........but we had some guy actually turn 468 hours in a month doing nothing but these recalls on the V8s which pay 12 hours.
i didn't have time to open the above link at work today...just now tried, and it no workie. i went into my info system, and can find no tsb's on the valve springs. what year is it? i looked under 2010.
-
that kinda sucks. what caused the fuse link to blow?
It wasn't blown, it was just rotted. I recognize Fords automotive achievements but, "heat shrinking" two wires merging into one and calling it fuse link is just beyond my comprehension.
-
It wasn't blown, it was just rotted. I recognize Fords automotive achievements but, "heat shrinking" two wires merging into one and calling it fuse link is just beyond my comprehension.
i'm fully with ya there. i've never liked fuse links.
-
if you're referencing the DOHC 4.6 ford engine.....it appears to me to be a take off of the old 427 cammer.
Yamaha designed heads for both the original Taurus SHO v6 and the later Taurus SHO v8.
Yamaha, during this exact time period, designed heads for the toyota V8s, the s3gte, and more than a few others.
The current lexus v8 heads use the exact same type of chain actuation, tensioning, and rocker arm type as the ford dohc modular motors and even look almost identical when viewed with the valve covers off.
If there were patents held by ford or lexus, there would be crazy lawsuits over them being near identical so I'm pretty sure these current heads are either riding a patent licensed from yamaha or derived from the design.
-
Yamaha designed heads for both the original Taurus SHO v6 and the later Taurus SHO v8.
Yamaha, during this exact time period, designed heads for the toyota V8s, the s3gte, and more than a few others.
The current lexus v8 heads use the exact same type of chain actuation, tensioning, and rocker arm type as the ford dohc modular motors and even look almost identical when viewed with the valve covers off.
If there were patents held by ford or lexus, there would be a huge toejamstorm over them being near identical so I'm pretty sure these current heads are either riding a patent licensed from yamaha or derived from the design.
i forgot all about the sho v-8. i actually thought that was a yamaha engine, but i've never worked on one of them.
-
The wrecking yards out here have many lincoln mark VIII with the dohc that also has the italian cast teksid aluminum blocks.
That's 250 bucks for one of these complete from pan to alternator to power steering pump to manifolds.
Amazing starting point if the shortblock is not trashed.
I wish I had a ford with an engine compartment wide enough to house one because the dohc mod motor is capable of huge amounts of horsepower very little mods other than boost and engine management.
They just don't sound as cool as the FE big blocks, though..........until they rev above 5k or so.
-
So what was the reason behind unreliability of original Taurus SHO Yamaha engine?
-
Camshafts manufactured in america.
-
Camshafts manufactured in america.
Little vague there my friend
-
Little vague there my friend
Manufacturing defect on camshafts that allowed the sprockets to come loose meaning indexing was lost and valves hit pistons.
-
Manufacturing defect on camshafts that allowed the sprockets to come loose meaning indexing was lost and valves hit pistons.
they weren't set up like the 4 liters, with no dowel pin, were they?
like i said....i've never worked on them, and only ever seen one.......so i'm fairly clueless about them......
-
Correct on the "no pin".
Some field fixes were pinning and others were welding but I'm wondering if welding could end up having a sprocket with runout which would wear the chain out quickly.
-
Correct on the "no pin".
Some field fixes were pinning and others were welding but I'm wondering if welding could end up having a sprocket with runout which would wear the chain out quickly.
that was an effed up idea to begin with.
the very first time i saw one of those 4 liters, having problems, which i traced back to that cam gear, i couldn't find much in alldata. mitchel, or anywhere. talked to a couple friends, one of which had done the welding thing.
we sent ours to a local ford dealer, as we weren't willing to do the welding thing. it has to be one of the dumbest things i've ever seen to be honest.