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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: flatiron1 on April 29, 2011, 10:46:28 PM
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AH should consider going back to old version until all these problems are worked out. Maybe put out a beta test version like they did with the terrain change.
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Maybe put out a beta test version
they did ... :bolt:
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Suck it up ... geeesh.
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I agree go back to the old version or risk losing lots of registered users
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I agree go back to the old version or risk losing lots of registered users
:rofl ya right...you're gonna be the first one too correct? amazing...
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Maybe put out a beta test version like they did with the terrain change.
You mean the Beta that no one used and when it went "live" everyone howled?
:bhead
wrongway
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You mean the Beta that no one used and when it went "live" everyone howled?
:bhead
wrongway
so are you saying the beta test version was not helpful?
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why cant people just build a bridge and get over it all? you don't like the system...don't use it until it gets the kinks worked out. with EVERY single patch there is some sort of kink someone :cry about.
Pretty soon im not gonna delete my account on here so i dont see the whines anymore. :rock
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Ive been through some nasty tangled updates and this one has been a breeze. Surely one of the smoother updates really with fine content.
Are we having a kotex moment flat ;)
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The community should consider trying it for more than a few days before deciding it's end of the world.
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Unbelievable.
The number of panty wearing men seem to keep increasing. :bhead
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AH should consider going back to old version
No.
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Yes! Let's go back to AH1!! :rock
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why cant people just build a bridge and get over it all? you don't like the system...don't use it until it gets the kinks worked out. with EVERY single patch there is some sort of kink someone :cry about.
Pretty soon im not gonna delete my account on here so i dont see the whines anymore. :rock
use the ignore list, after awhile you every other post doesn't show. Besides that what do expect from most people, to put a little effort in to learning something new, ha.
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You mean the Beta that no one used and when it went "live" everyone howled?
the standalone test app for the updated graphics was a great idea though - loads of people used it and reported their findings, which Im sure ironed out quite a few problems before it went online :aok
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Suck it up ... geeesh.
Couldn't have said it better.
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Unbelievable.
The number of panty wearing men seem to keep increasing. :bhead
Yet, they are the ones the "Community holds in the highest regard and accepts".
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I am giving two weeks
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so are you saying the beta test version was not helpful?
the standalone test app for the updated graphics was a great idea though - loads of people used it and reported their findings, which Im sure ironed out quite a few problems before it went online :aok
But essentially, yes, Beta testing was not helpful.
Not enough participation and, what at the time seemed to make sense but probably didn't, people objecting to the "win teh warz!!1!" types actually trying to play like normal.
So, while a Beta Arena sounds wonderful, it didn't really make that big a difference, IMHO.
wrongway
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:rofl ya right...you're gonna be the first one too correct? amazing...
We can only hope.
I am giving two weeks
That is entirely too long, please do it now.
Yes! Let's go back to AH1!! :rock
I would have fun with this lol
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I am giving two weeks
why wait that long to cancel your subscription?
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Yet, they are the ones the "Community holds in the highest regard and accepts".
Dunno. I don't see the "community holding them in high regards and accepting them" very much.
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Gimme Gimme Gimme...
Awww, I didn't want that kind. :cry
Coogan
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You mean back to AH1?
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AH should consider quitting being awesome.
:neener:
:aok
:devil
:cheers:
:O
:noid
:banana:
:bhead
CHECK OUT MY EMOTICON TOTEM-POLE!
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Ive been through some nasty tangled updates and this one has been a breeze. Surely one of the smoother updates really with fine content.
Are we having a kotex moment flat ;)
no but am having a lot of game crash/ video resolution/field of view changing on it's own and losing stick setting moments. Prior to this change game worked pretty much perfect for me.
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See Rule #4
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I was complaining on VOX about this pathetic GV system and got muted for 60 min. A more reason as to why I am out of here in 2 weeks .
This change is enough to piss a lot of people off and I can tell you a lot are leaving .
Screw you HTC
Bye bye shadesboi.
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I was complaining on VOX about this pathetic GV system and got muted for 60 min. A more reason as to why I am out of here in 2 weeks .
This change is enough to piss a lot of people off and I can tell you a lot are leaving .
Screw you HTC
(http://www.wilsoninfo.com/halloweenclipart/skeleton-walk-21.gif)
Well...Bye.
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I was complaining on VOX about this pathetic GV system and got muted for 60 min. A more reason as to why I am out of here in 2 weeks .
This change is enough to piss a lot of people off and I can tell you a lot are leaving .
Screw you HTC
Why wait the 2 weeks, kiss off today and save the rest of us having to listen to your crap.
CYA ! :neener:
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:old: Ive always heard the term~ If it aint broke dont fix it or dont reinvent the wheel if it rolls and its round. I havent came back to the game yet so I dont know how bad the change is. Guess i'll see if I can adapt to it. When I left 6 months ago all was working great so i'm not sure why all the change and whooplaa !
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I was complaining on VOX about this pathetic GV system and got muted for 60 min. A more reason as to why I am out of here in 2 weeks .
This change is enough to piss a lot of people off and I can tell you a lot are leaving .
Screw you HTC
cussing on vox like a 10 year old with no discipline should have gotten you booted...the new gv system is only pathetic in your view because you don't have the mental fortitude to figure it out...i hope there isn't someone that looks at you as a role model because you're severly lacking in that capacity.
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:old: It has been my experience, in the 10 years or so I have been playing, that with every change there is a small group who whine about the change and threaten to quit. I may have been one of those people at one time or another myself. The fact of the matter is that change is constant. (We would never have won the Second World War if not for change). Change is good. It levels the playing field for a while. The good players will always overcome a challenge and rise to the top. This change to the way you employ your GV is not going to cause the mass exodus that the nay sayers envision...it never has, it never will. HiTech is doing the right thing in order to keep up with changes in the gaming world, and thus preventing the game from becoming stale and boring. I can remember several changes that caused outcry's such as this. Several have been rescinded, such as the expanded Radar and the linked bases. Some have stayed and have been forgotten, such as when HiTech made the trees varying heights to improve terrain scenery.
I Have also heard the whine that HTC doesn't care about the players. Wow...HTC gives you almost everything you want, when you want it. The B-29 is a great example of that. It is amazing to me that some people can even say that.
The game is fine, and obviously doing well enough to be able to keep the trusted staff employed and making the changes that are needed to keep OUR game viable and on-line for hopefully years to come. I guess if you are unable to keep up with the changes, (and I do have good friends on here who want to leave as well), then I guess you should find a game more to your liking. I hear World of Warcraft is looking for a few good Faeries. That's my Two cents.
Tee
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I was complaining on VOX about this pathetic GV system and got muted for 60 min. A more reason as to why I am out of here in 2 weeks .
This change is enough to piss a lot of people off and I can tell you a lot are leaving .
Screw you HTC
I had the pleasure of enduring your childish rant. 60 minutes sounds like a gift...it was for the rest of us.
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:old: Ive always heard the term~ If it aint broke dont fix it or dont reinvent the wheel if it rolls and its round. I havent came back to the game yet so I dont know how bad the change is. Guess i'll see if I can adapt to it. When I left 6 months ago all was working great so i'm not sure why all the change and whooplaa !
Land line phones-->don't need cell phones
Broadcast T.V.-->don't need cable
Train across America in three days-->who needs airlines?
The new gv controls actually let you do some things you couldn't do before. Drive, start, stop, and gun at the same time. Pivot on tanks that could pivot.
The "problem" is not that it is worse. It is different. Plain and simple.
wrongway
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That may be great for GVers, but the same thing happens for us flyboys. We get on the runway and while takin off our head position goes crazy. Kind of aggrivating.
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This seems to happen every time a big release comes out. I remember everyone whining about the new graphics and their fps problems when that was first released. When the new towns were released, everyone hated it at first.
Whenever big changes to the gameplay are released, expect more than a few bugs at first. They will work out the kinks eventually
:salute
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I was complaining on VOX about this pathetic GV system and got muted for 60 min. A more reason as to why I am out of here in 2 weeks .
This change is enough to piss a lot of people off and I can tell you a lot are leaving .
Screw you HTC
Please stud... Give us a list of all these people that are leaving... :cry I want to see this list! Here is Ur direct quote:
"This change is enough to piss a lot of people off and I can tell you a lot are leaving ." HE HE I want to see this list :neener:
:bolt:
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<S> HTC thanks for the updates.
A rolling stone gathers no moss but may smash a few cry flys :airplane:
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That may be great for GVers, but the same thing happens for us flyboys. We get on the runway and while takin off our head position goes crazy. Kind of aggrivating.
turn it off.. options / preferences / view options and uncheck "start in mouse look"
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I can tell you a lot are leaving .
Can you tell us how many are leaving? Since you seem to have these numbers handy, it should be no problem for you to provide the exact numbers of those wusses that got upset by this update and quit.
ack-ack
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Can you tell us how many are leaving? Since you seem to have these numbers handy, it should be no problem for you to provide the exact numbers of those wusses that got upset by this update and quit.
ack-ack
Apparently one. But quite frankly, I wouldn't even bet on that.
wrongway
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AH should consider going back to old version until all these problems are worked out. Maybe put out a beta test version like they did with the terrain change.
I guess I need to clarify my statement. Was talking about the games crashes, losing stick settings and video settings/field of view.
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I guess I need to clarify my statement. Was talking about the games crashes, losing stick settings and video settings/field of view.
The thing is, that for hundreds of people playing the game there aren't any problems. There seems to be a small select group that have issues. So rolling back isn't a good option for "most" of the people.
My suggestion would be to start a new thread in the Technical help section ( call it by what happens to you, ex. game crashes on entering arena" this way other with the same problem may post) and list your system specs (Dxdiag) as well as your in game settings (textures shadows on or off and such), and list how many processes you have running. Along with that list exactly the issues you are having, the more detailed the better ( I click such and such and then a window says this, then it crashes, at which point I must do such and such to restart).
With a better pile of info as well as those other that may be having the same problems posting a solution to your issues may come about quicker.
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The thing is, that for hundreds of people playing the game there aren't any problems. There seems to be a small select group that have issues. So rolling back isn't a good option for "most" of the people.
My suggestion would be to start a new thread in the Technical help section ( call it by what happens to you, ex. game crashes on entering arena" this way other with the same problem may post) and list your system specs (Dxdiag) as well as your in game settings (textures shadows on or off and such), and list how many processes you have running. Along with that list exactly the issues you are having, the more detailed the better ( I click such and such and then a window says this, then it crashes, at which point I must do such and such to restart).
With a better pile of info as well as those other that may be having the same problems posting a solution to your issues may come about quicker.
Nah.....it's easier to grasp the audience with a whine. :devil
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Fix the GV situation or cancel my subscription. HTC has until the 15th of May before I cancel. The GV handling is totally incoherent
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Fix the GV situation or cancel my subscription. HTC has until the 15th of May before I cancel. The GV handling is totally incoherent
don't let the door hit ya...
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Fix the GV situation or cancel my subscription. HTC has until the 15th of May before I cancel. The GV handling is totally incoherent
Well, HT stated he is going to add rudder control of steering back to gv's, those who like the ADWS thing, keep doing it that way.
The only thing that will be added is an analog control input to steer. You will be able to use either keys or rudder/stick to turn with. We are not going back to the old system. We will also be adding some display in the commanders position such as speed and gear.
HiTech
If ya aren't on board with the rest of the gv stuff, there's naught more to be said...THAT part is an update
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Holy Drama Queens batman! :rofl
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Fix the GV situation or cancel my subscription. HTC has until the 15th of May before I cancel. The GV handling is totally incoherent
you are the first person that has said this. really, you are. good gawd. suck it up, buttercup. scared of a little change?
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Change we can believe in. LOL
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one less gamer to deal with. Next!
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Totally change the flight controls make it almost all mouse and key board and see how many flyer's complain. Took me almost a year of my time to learn to gv well. :bheadcomplaints about the new system are legit totally wasted my time and money gving for that period of time. Its a crap update and did not in any way improve the ground war. Oh its more realistic all the flyer's say. Ya well take your zoom capacity away watch the tears flow. I'm sure a lot off ww2 fighter pilots used binocs while fighting. :furious
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Totally change the flight controls make it almost all mouse and key board and see how many flyer's complain. Took me almost a year of my time to learn to gv well. :bheadcomplaints about the new system are legit totally wasted my time and money gving for that period of time. Its a crap update and did not in any way improve the ground war. Oh its more realistic all the flyer's say. Ya well take your zoom capacity away watch the tears flow. I'm sure a lot off ww2 fighter pilots used binocs while fighting. :furious
Sorry to tell ya this Bub, but not a single aircraft in AH has a zoom ability. All they have is the ability to narrow the field of view so as to get to approximately 1x magnification. Normally we are flying around at something like 0.2x magnifcation.
The tank sights are now historical, something the fliers have had to deal with since day one, and have fixed zoom settings of 2.5x to 6x magnification, depending on the tank. The Tiger, Panther and Firefly have two settings available.
I'm sorry if a little realism is spoiling your 5 klick kill shots, but you shouldn't have been able to do those in the first place.
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Had AH launched in 2001 with wsad...and updated to the "old" analog system...my guess is the same folks would be griping about the change. :rolleyes:
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Fix the GV situation or cancel my subscription. HTC has until the 15th of May before I cancel. The GV handling is totally incoherent
I like the new GV system and hope they keep it. :aok
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Think about it. You know how angry you get after you've spent 2 years working in a pare of breifs so they fit just right. The elastic is almost dead and fits your waist like a feather. The seat is worn down almost like silk. The leg holes no longer bunch up in the crotch.
Then you get out of the shower and reach into the drawer and the Ol'Lady has replaced your perfictly broken in undies with 12 brand spankin new ones right out of the plastic and thrown your comfy ones out with the trash wile you were in the shower.
So these guys are just chewin out Hitech for makin them break in new undies.....It's not like he's refusing to replace the old ones until the croch rots out......
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Sorry to tell ya this Bub, but not a single aircraft in AH has a zoom ability. All they have is the ability to narrow the field of view so as to get to approximately 1x magnification.
Zoom in aircraft has about 3x magnification, the same zoom as the commander's position has in vehicles, or the gunner in low-magnification optics equipped tanks like the Panzer, T34, M4(75) and so on.
This is how a Tiger shows on the screen, picture taken always from about the same spot (+/- 10ft):
From a P-38 at max zoom:
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3752/from38.jpg)
From tank commander position, max zoom:
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9195/fromcommanderpanther.jpg)
Through Panzer IV gunsight:
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9022/fromgunnerpanzer.jpg)
Through Panther gunsight, max magnification:
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7750/fromgunnerpanther.jpg)
So yes, planes in AH do have zoom, they do have built-in tank optics, just without the fancy gunsight ;)
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Fix the GV situation or cancel my subscription. HTC has until the 15th of May before I cancel. The GV handling is totally incoherent
Bye Bye.
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Fix the GV situation or cancel my subscription. HTC has until the 15th of May before I cancel. The GV handling is totally incoherent
:rofl ... you don't know Dale very well ... Demands with threats don't work very well.
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Bye Bye.
i guess u never played a "fps" wasd or up down left right. is a great way to control movement and your joystick uses same input basically for tank control anyway. but its more "commander" like to be able to drive tank from other positions. If we were required to have 2-3 people in the gv to operate it, i'd say old system would be way to go but this would be to difficult to organize and point is moot. and for new tank sights and magnification; i think its great and now long range guns have their long range advantage and it makes gv worth perks. i really only use "hat" to look around in aircraft so i dont use mouse look around but kinda cool feature.
<S> Hitech
Love the new system...but i would like to be able to use my mouse cursor as a sight again in aircraft (especially Mossy) and Ack (wirb, osti) role which seems to be impossible if not difficult now.
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i guess u never played a "fps" wasd or up down left right. is a great way to control movement and your joystick uses same input basically for tank control anyway. but its more "commander" like to be able to drive tank from other positions. If we were required to have 2-3 people in the gv to operate it, i'd say old system would be way to go but this would be to difficult to organize and point is moot. and for new tank sights and magnification; i think its great and now long range guns have their long range advantage and it makes gv worth perks. i really only use "hat" to look around in aircraft so i dont use mouse look around but kinda cool feature.
<S> Hitech
Love the new system...but i would like to be able to use my mouse cursor as a sight again in aircraft (especially Mossy) and Ack (wirb, osti) role which seems to be impossible if not difficult now.
This isn't a fps shooter.
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Love the new system...but i would like to be able to use my mouse cursor as a sight again in aircraft (especially Mossy) and Ack (wirb, osti) role which seems to be impossible if not difficult now.
So you would like to utilize a gamey feature on GVs and airplanes that were not available to those who used these vehicles and planes in real life?
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So you would like to utilize a gamey feature on GVs and airplanes that were not available to those who used these vehicles and planes in real life?
It's so daft Slap!
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I cant believe how many people were apparently using custom gunsight mouse cursors, talk about gamey :rolleyes:
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I cant believe how many people were apparently using custom gunsight mouse cursors, talk about gamey :rolleyes:
No kidding... I was against it before but now that HTC has removed some of the mouse gunsight function, I wish they would finish the process.
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I still think if you're inflight, autohide the cursor after 5s of inactivity. then as soon as you move it an inch or 2 it reappears. would sort out cursor gunsights and still let snail pickup his GV supplies :)
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I still think if you're inflight, autohide the cursor after 5s of inactivity. then as soon as you move it an inch or 2 it reappears. would sort out cursor gunsights and still let snail pickup his GV supplies :)
Excellent !!!
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Agreed! Great idea! :aok
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I still think if you're inflight, autohide the cursor after 5s of inactivity. then as soon as you move it an inch or 2 it reappears. would sort out cursor gunsights and still let snail pickup his GV supplies :)
+3
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I still think if you're inflight, autohide the cursor after 5s of inactivity. then as soon as you move it an inch or 2 it reappears. would sort out cursor gunsights and still let snail pickup his GV supplies :)
Folks we have a winner.
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I still think if you're inflight, autohide the cursor after 5s of inactivity. then as soon as you move it an inch or 2 it reappears. would sort out cursor gunsights and still let snail pickup his GV supplies :)
Ok how did you plant that microphone in my office?
Hitech
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great minds think alike ... ;)
edit: awwww ok I'll be honest - I only wishlisted it a coupla years back because I got bored of moving the mouse to the side of the screen. I'm still going to claim the credit tho :D
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Ok how did you plant that microphone in my office?
Hitech
Awesome !!!
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I still think if you're inflight, autohide the cursor after 5s of inactivity. then as soon as you move it an inch or 2 it reappears. would sort out cursor gunsights and still let snail pickup his GV supplies :)
Outstanding! :aok
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Folks we have a winner.
I'm still for getting rid of all the sharpies and clear tape.
wrongway