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Title: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Rob52240 on May 14, 2011, 09:39:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eBpC3JMcGo&playnext=1&list=PLF16CA116BCA394AE
Last night about 20 bishops attacked an enemy base but waited near the field at low altitude for defenders to defend it.  Although we were outnumbered by both enemies, only a few decided to protect their territory.

<S> Defenders

PS
before any naysayers start complaining, take note of what we attackers were flying.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: The Fugitive on May 14, 2011, 09:43:18 AM
A horde is a horde, it doesn't matter what your flying. Had 18 of you backed off and let that poor defender only fight 2-3 of you at a time I'd say that it was cool, but nope ya'll got to horde the one guy. WTG!
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Debrody on May 14, 2011, 09:45:08 AM
poor f4u... how many of ya got assist on him?
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Rob52240 on May 14, 2011, 09:50:11 AM
I think everyone.  The D3A1 isn't really packing enough firepower to get a whole kill on another plane.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: RichardDarkwood on May 14, 2011, 09:59:25 AM
I think everyone.  The D3A1 isn't really packing enough firepower to get a whole kill on another plane.

It will out manuver many planes though. Trick is getting them on your six and into barrel rolls near the ground/water and make them auger.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Blagard on May 14, 2011, 09:59:55 AM
LOL the defender must have felt like he was in a swarm of gnats. I would have loved to be a gunner if a B17 had upped to defend   :joystick:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: StokesAk on May 14, 2011, 10:02:29 AM
Yesterday there was a horde of Stukas IB to our base, with no fighter cover. Tempests were only 12 perks. One thing led to another and boom!  :airplane:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Chewie on May 14, 2011, 10:03:07 AM
That was funny as Helllll, Thank you. 
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Lepape2 on May 14, 2011, 10:05:10 AM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Would have loved to be part of of that fight, no matter which side.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: DH367th on May 14, 2011, 10:09:59 AM
Wow u really posted this Why. No honorable fight reminds of a benny hill sketch 18 nerds chasing 1 torn dress woman. I agree with Fug you all just dogpiled the poor guy.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Rob52240 on May 14, 2011, 10:14:43 AM
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Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: JOACH1M on May 14, 2011, 10:29:47 AM
I would have rolled a b29
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 14, 2011, 11:10:00 AM
Wow u really posted this Why. No honorable fight reminds of a benny hill sketch 18 nerds chasing 1 torn dress woman. I agree with Fug you all just dogpiled the poor guy.

really, its a pack of d3a's not 262.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: JOACH1M on May 14, 2011, 11:12:55 AM
A horde is a horde, it doesn't matter what your flying. Had 18 of you backed off and let that poor defender only fight 2-3 of you at a time I'd say that it was cool, but nope ya'll got to horde the one guy. WTG!
Cartoon time!
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: JUGgler on May 14, 2011, 11:37:26 AM
I'm with Fugitive on this, a HORDE is a HORDE! d3 may have light guns but once you take away the corsairs only advantage over the d3 (speed) then it is easy to stay on ones 6 while in a d3, very very very very easy.

As lepape said, I too would have been all over this horde  :banana: My only dilemna would have been  JUG or 110C, decicions decisions  :devil

A "general higher standard" is in order in this game, by those who've been around a while  :aok


JUGgler
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BigR on May 14, 2011, 11:38:03 AM
I was one of the defenders...it was a blast killing you guys ;).
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: 715 on May 14, 2011, 11:44:39 AM
There were few defenders because they were all in a mission attacking the base the D3A1s launched from: I watched the two missions pass each other on their way to attack each others bases.  Was kinda funny.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: matt on May 14, 2011, 12:12:12 PM
gotta love that music went well with that chase..  :D
 

         flakhapy






Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: MaSonZ on May 14, 2011, 12:37:31 PM
vTARDS were involved...no surprise its a horde. with Fugi. let the defender have a chance if your gonna wait for him to up. i give props for letting him up...but as soon as he clears ack he has a swarm of spraying vTARDS on him? skill boys.....


4 years ago things like this were few and far between... much more respect with the other crowd.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BigR on May 14, 2011, 01:11:09 PM
stating a simple fact....it takes 5 vtards to equal the skill of one normal pilot. So, honestly it was only like a 4 on 1.  :neener:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: JOACH1M on May 14, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
stating a simple fact....it takes 5 vtards to equal the skill of one normal pilot. So, honestly it was only like a 4 on 1.  :neener:
:rofl
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: MaSonZ on May 14, 2011, 01:13:13 PM
stating a simple fact....it takes 5 vtards to equal the skill of one normal pilot. So, honestly it was only like a 4 on 1.  :neener:
:rofl :rofl sadly so. until they all lineup a HO..hard to avoid 5 tards spraying all over sky head on with you.  :bhead
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: bmwgs on May 14, 2011, 01:57:45 PM
vTARDS were involved...no surprise its a horde. with Fugi. let the defender have a chance if your gonna wait for him to up. i give props for letting him up...but as soon as he clears ack he has a swarm of spraying vTARDS on him? skill boys.....


4 years ago things like this were few and far between... much more respect with the other crowd.

Four years ago it was exactly the same.  Nothing has changed.

My Opinion

Fred
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Debrody on May 14, 2011, 02:12:15 PM
stating a simple fact....it takes 5 vtards to equal the skill of one normal pilot. So, honestly it was only like a 4 on 1.  :neener:
plus the f4u is 4 times better than the d3a, so it was an 1v1...  :lol
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 14, 2011, 02:39:24 PM
so, are we no longer allowed to try and have fun? Everyone blames it on the "vTARDS" that we jump other pilots by out numbering them, and that we are skill less. I atleast have respect for the guy that got up to defend, and i guarantee that he had fun shooting down some d3a's, but at the same time, everyone is here talking their smack but they wont get up and defend. so i salute the few pilots that got up to defend and to try and have some fun with some d3a's. as for the others that are here just to judge everyone as a whole, as i have no respect for any of you at all.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: EskimoJoe on May 14, 2011, 02:54:39 PM
Nobody is blaming the vTARDS for anything here.
We're just calling it as it is. A bunch of vDWEEBS
in a skilless hoard.

Get used to it, this is what your bunch has become to
our little cartoon world.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Butcher on May 14, 2011, 02:55:06 PM
so, are we no longer allowed to try and have fun? Everyone blames it on the "vTARDS" that we jump other pilots by out numbering them, and that we are skill less. I atleast have respect for the guy that got up to defend, and i guarantee that he had fun shooting down some d3a's, but at the same time, everyone is here talking their smack but they wont get up and defend. so i salute the few pilots that got up to defend and to try and have some fun with some d3a's. as for the others that are here just to judge everyone as a whole, as i have no respect for any of you at all.

Don't worry, nobody has respect for vTards.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: EskimoJoe on May 14, 2011, 02:58:39 PM
Don't worry, nobody has respect for vTards.

How true!  :rofl
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Rob52240 on May 14, 2011, 02:59:04 PM
Can we just get back to treating aces high like a game?  

I'd write more but I need to finish blacking out my windows and rounding up metal for the next scrap drive.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: The Fugitive on May 14, 2011, 03:02:00 PM
so, are we no longer allowed to try and have fun? Everyone blames it on the "vTARDS" that we jump other pilots by out numbering them, and that we are skill less. I atleast have respect for the guy that got up to defend, and i guarantee that he had fun shooting down some d3a's, but at the same time, everyone is here talking their smack but they wont get up and defend. so i salute the few pilots that got up to defend and to try and have some fun with some d3a's. as for the others that are here just to judge everyone as a whole, as i have no respect for any of you at all.

Have all the fun you want!

Sorry my idea of "fun", as well as many others, doesn't include getting ganged/horded by a large number of planes. Whether those planes are D3A's or they are flown by "skilless dweebs" it doesn't matter. That is why I personally would NOT have upped at the field to defend.

The OP posting a film of him and "his gang" jumping single planes is going to bring these kind of comments because for most players it is "poor game play" and is one of the reasons for arena splits.

but you go ahead and have fun  :aok
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: EskimoJoe on May 14, 2011, 03:02:16 PM
Lmfao! Let's treat it like a game, huh?
You should REALLY read what vDALLAS sends via PM every time he dies!
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Tupac on May 14, 2011, 03:06:04 PM
Lmfao! Let's treat it like a game, huh?
You should REALLY read what vDALLAS sends via PM every time he dies!
I love vDALLAS PMs, because everytime I'm feeling down, I think "It could be worse, I could be sending people nasty messages on the internet!"
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Butcher on May 14, 2011, 03:30:37 PM
Lmfao! Let's treat it like a game, huh?
You should REALLY read what vDALLAS sends via PM every time he dies!

Last time I shot him down and 3 other vTards down he whined and I responded "bring back your 4 best A team and get me then" He responded "You're no match for any of us blah blah"

Sorry to say, but if you die from a Ju-87 in your F4u-1D there's nothing you can say, period because thats just extremely sad.

"I was heavy" isn't an excuse to lose either.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BigR on May 14, 2011, 03:52:50 PM
so, are we no longer allowed to try and have fun? Everyone blames it on the "vTARDS" that we jump other pilots by out numbering them, and that we are skill less. I atleast have respect for the guy that got up to defend, and i guarantee that he had fun shooting down some d3a's, but at the same time, everyone is here talking their smack but they wont get up and defend. so i salute the few pilots that got up to defend and to try and have some fun with some d3a's. as for the others that are here just to judge everyone as a whole, as i have no respect for any of you at all.

I came up, flew into your horde, killed 5 of you and then landed...and yes it was fun.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 14, 2011, 03:58:04 PM
The funniest thing about this video is seeing the Muppet willingly take part.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Krupinski on May 14, 2011, 05:10:27 PM
When I see a 5 or more vs 1 go on for more than 30 seconds I jump in just to put him out of his misery.  :angel:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: crazyivan on May 14, 2011, 05:14:27 PM
Where was vSunbat? ;)
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Rob52240 on May 14, 2011, 05:22:32 PM
Where was vSunbat? ;)

What's a vSunbat?
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: 68ZooM on May 14, 2011, 05:23:03 PM
same ol stupid thing rinse and repeat horde ya into submisson, the true Cancer of the Game
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: 68ZooM on May 14, 2011, 05:26:47 PM
The funniest thing about this video is seeing the Muppet willingly take part.


ack-ack
  but if sunbat didn't kill the poor guy he would still be flying, the Vtard army couldn't shoot him down    :rofl   :rofl
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: MaSonZ on May 14, 2011, 05:47:08 PM
so, are we no longer allowed to try and have fun? Everyone blames it on the "vTARDS" that we jump other pilots by out numbering them, and that we are skill less. I atleast have respect for the guy that got up to defend, and i guarantee that he had fun shooting down some d3a's, but at the same time, everyone is here talking their smack but they wont get up and defend. so i salute the few pilots that got up to defend and to try and have some fun with some d3a's. as for the others that are here just to judge everyone as a whole, as i have no respect for any of you at all.
have fun if you please... but if your idea of "fun" is ganging planes 20-1 and making a bad name for yourself then i feel bad for you. a 1-1, or 2-1, or even 3-1 is the most "fun" one could have in the game. you keep going with your horde.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Noir on May 14, 2011, 05:49:15 PM
maybe next time attack a defended base ?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Butcher on May 14, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
maybe next time attack a defended base ?  :headscratch:

Taking a defended base would require skill and tactics and there's a reason they attack undefeated bases in the boon docks. Who am I kidding, I give up.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: mbailey on May 14, 2011, 06:03:19 PM
so, are we no longer allowed to try and have fun? Everyone blames it on the "vTARDS" that we jump other pilots by out numbering them, and that we are skill less. I atleast have respect for the guy that got up to defend, and i guarantee that he had fun shooting down some d3a's, but at the same time, everyone is here talking their smack but they wont get up and defend. so i salute the few pilots that got up to defend and to try and have some fun with some d3a's. as for the others that are here just to judge everyone as a whole, as i have no respect for any of you at all.

Well put, Looks like you gents had a blast....wtg  :aok

A large  bunch of late war monsters.....just a mindless hoard imho

A large bunch of D3As.......... A group of ppl just trying to have some (different) off the cuff fun,in some less flown,handicapped rides.

Would have loved to defended against this one  :aok


Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 14, 2011, 06:13:16 PM
have fun if you please... but if your idea of "fun" is ganging planes 20-1 and making a bad name for yourself then i feel bad for you. a 1-1, or 2-1, or even 3-1 is the most "fun" one could have in the game. you keep going with your horde.

im  sorry you see things differently. We fly together as a group because thats the way we see that a squad is suppose to function, as a group, not as 20 1v1 fights. If people dont want to get killed by hordes then dont up from the field. But then everyone is going to say that we are attacking an undefended base. So im not really sure how a squad is suppose to function as a group if we go to a base that is defended, everyone sees that as hording, but when we go to an undefended base that is base stealing and no fun for anyone. So what else is there to do?
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: JOACH1M on May 14, 2011, 06:14:03 PM
In a spit9 I will "hoard fight" anything else I'm leaving over 4v1
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: rpm on May 14, 2011, 11:32:53 PM
Even funnier last TitanicTuesday was when the BOP's attacked a base near StratCity then launched a follow-up attack on StratCity. All the defenders ran to StratCity while I NOE'd a goon in from the opposite direction for the capture and forced StratCity to grow legs.  :devil
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BigR on May 14, 2011, 11:47:49 PM
im  sorry you see things differently. We fly together as a group because thats the way we see that a squad is suppose to function, as a group, not as 20 1v1 fights. If people dont want to get killed by hordes then dont up from the field. But then everyone is going to say that we are attacking an undefended base. So im not really sure how a squad is suppose to function as a group if we go to a base that is defended, everyone sees that as hording, but when we go to an undefended base that is base stealing and no fun for anyone. So what else is there to do?

The problem with your "squad" (should really be called a mob) is that you guys are just too big for your own good. I really dont see how capping a field with 20 guys while you spam 10 goons into a town is "fun". Where is the challenge? I just don't understand. I guess the real fun for you guys is pissing everyone else off. I mean thats gotta be it right? What other satisfaction can you possibly receive from these smash and grab jobs? Most of you end up flying all the way to base, making a few circles, maybe a try at a vulch or 2, and then you land when the base is taken. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: MajWoody on May 15, 2011, 01:46:23 AM
Have all the fun you want!

Sorry my idea of "fun", as well as many others, doesn't include getting ganged/horded by a large number of planes. Whether those planes are D3A's or they are flown by "skilless dweebs" it doesn't matter. That is why I personally would NOT have upped at the field to defend.

The OP posting a film of him and "his gang" jumping single planes is going to bring these kind of comments because for most players it is "poor game play" and is one of the reasons for arena splits.

but you go ahead and have fun  :aok

Is there a cartoon in this somewhere?  :banana:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Tk3997 on May 15, 2011, 02:46:28 AM
The really funny part is they didn't even cap the place or attack the town at all really for that matter. They all just flew around before being widdled down; I smacked two of them in a wirbelwind myself. (not a chance in hell I was upping anything flying into that.) So yeah I'd say the sole purpose there was just to send 20 guys over a field and try to gain cheap kills so... mission accomplished I suppose?
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: sunfan1121 on May 15, 2011, 02:52:53 AM
The funniest thing about this video is seeing the Muppet willingly take part.


ack-ack
The D3A mission also had 109 escort. It was all in good fun to try to spark up something on the map. They didn't take bombs, or even try to hit the base, it was all about giving the red guys something to shoot at. And guess what? It worked! It sparked up a good fight until the destroyer of all things good in AH named AUTO decided to kick us out. It was fun while it lasted.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Slash27 on May 15, 2011, 03:11:18 AM
The funniest thing about this video is seeing the Muppet willingly take part.


ack-ack
Some one had to get the kill.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Rob52240 on May 15, 2011, 08:51:00 AM
The D3A mission also had 109 escort. It was all in good fun to try to spark up something on the map. They didn't take bombs, or even try to hit the base, it was all about giving the red guys something to shoot at. And guess what? It worked! It sparked up a good fight until the destroyer of all things good in AH named AUTO decided to kick us out. It was fun while it lasted.

The mission had no point other than to be fun, it had a few slots for 109s and about 20 guys flew the d3a1.  Nobody dropped any hangers, nobody went over the airfield or town.  It was just to go pick a fight.  Any of the defenders could have used their own field for cover and to be honest, that spitfire as well as the handfull of other defenders should have used the boom&zoom technique. 

The one advantage that mission had was the fact that nobody is used to fighting against the D3A1 and those who fought against ours treated it like any other plane.  They mostly upped turn fighters and tried to turn with a plane that only had one thing going for it.  And that one thing is the ability to out turn anything.
The lesson to be learned here is that even a Brewster can boom&zoom when fighting against the D3A1.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: The Fugitive on May 15, 2011, 09:21:10 AM
Is there a cartoon in this somewhere?  :banana:

I think THIS ONE (http://webpages.charter.net/maddogjoe/cartoon_vulch.htm) cover that  :)
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Saxman on May 15, 2011, 10:22:01 AM
God, reminds me of the Midway FSO a couple years ago when my 10 F4Fs had to single-handedly fight off over 120 D3As.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: JOACH1M on May 15, 2011, 10:23:54 AM
God, reminds me of the Midway FSO a couple years ago when my 10 F4Fs had to single-handedly fight off over 120 D3As.
O my lawdy, field day for the wildcats!! :lol :airplane: :joystick:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Saxman on May 15, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
O my lawdy, field day for the wildcats!! :lol :airplane: :joystick:

You'd be surprised. We got a LOT of single-ping pilot wounds early in the fight, and there was nowhere to rearm once out of gas and ammo (nearest base was one of the carriers about three or four sectors away).
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: JOACH1M on May 15, 2011, 10:29:38 AM
You'd be surprised. We got a LOT of single-ping pilot wounds early in the fight, and there was nowhere to rearm once out of gas and ammo (nearest base was one of the carriers about three or four sectors away).
If I were to be pw'ed so early I would have just bailed of shear anger :lol
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: 1Boner on May 15, 2011, 11:46:53 AM
I absolutely love all the comments about "skills".   :airplane:    Priceless.



Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: mbailey on May 15, 2011, 12:27:45 PM
I think THIS ONE (http://webpages.charter.net/maddogjoe/cartoon_vulch.htm) cover that  :)

Priceless!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Dalliance on May 15, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
The D3A mission also had 109 escort. It was all in good fun to try to spark up something on the map. They didn't take bombs, or even try to hit the base, it was all about giving the red guys something to shoot at. And guess what? It worked! It sparked up a good fight until the destroyer of all things good in AH named AUTO decided to kick us out. It was fun while it lasted.
:aok
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: MajWoody on May 15, 2011, 08:05:29 PM
I think THIS ONE (http://webpages.charter.net/maddogjoe/cartoon_vulch.htm) cover that  :)

Perfect!  :aok
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Tk3997 on May 15, 2011, 10:43:34 PM
The mission had no point other than to be fun, it had a few slots for 109s and about 20 guys flew the d3a1.  Nobody dropped any hangers, nobody went over the airfield or town.  It was just to go pick a fight.  Any of the defenders could have used their own field for cover and to be honest, that spitfire as well as the handfull of other defenders should have used the boom&zoom technique.  

The one advantage that mission had was the fact that nobody is used to fighting against the D3A1 and those who fought against ours treated it like any other plane.  They mostly upped turn fighters and tried to turn with a plane that only had one thing going for it.  And that one thing is the ability to out turn anything.
The lesson to be learned here is that even a Brewster can boom&zoom when fighting against the D3A1.
I feel compelled to mention that the reason no one came up to fight was becasue you had two other hordes of about 20 guys striking two other bases at the same time. They more or less rightly considered it a distraction once it became clear you weren't attacking the town, so really the only guys that came up were people without any good sense or experience I didn't stick around in the flak once it was clear you weren't after the town that's for sure. "Starting fights" doesn't work if you've also got hordes of guys rolling other bases like two sectors away.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Guppy35 on May 16, 2011, 12:29:32 AM
Well put, Looks like you gents had a blast....wtg  :aok

A large  bunch of late war monsters.....just a mindless hoard imho

A large bunch of D3As.......... A group of ppl just trying to have some (different) off the cuff fun,in some less flown,handicapped rides.

Would have loved to defended against this one  :aok




The first Candy mountain mission way back when was a Val fighter sweep.  We by accident intercepted an inbound Lancaster raid.  Flying underneath them and shooting them down with the rear gun was good fun :)  We stopped it too!  Was worth it for all the laughing going on while it happened.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Reaper90 on May 16, 2011, 06:01:57 AM
The first Candy mountain mission way back when was a Val fighter sweep.  We by accident intercepted an inbound Lancaster raid.  Flying underneath them and shooting them down with the rear gun was good fun :)  We stopped it too!  Was worth it for all the laughing going on while it happened.

That right there is full of WIN.

Would love to see some screenshots of that!
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: VonMessa on May 16, 2011, 06:35:00 AM
Looks like a bunch of crackheads rummaging around on the floor fighting for the last crumb.

Even though it is only a piece of carpet lint...
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: waystin2 on May 16, 2011, 07:07:42 AM
im  sorry you see things differently. We fly together as a group because thats the way we see that a squad is suppose to function, as a group, not as 20 1v1 fights. If people dont want to get killed by hordes then dont up from the field. But then everyone is going to say that we are attacking an undefended base. So im not really sure how a squad is suppose to function as a group if we go to a base that is defended, everyone sees that as hording, but when we go to an undefended base that is base stealing and no fun for anyone. So what else is there to do?

I am going to give you an honest answer to your questions.  No flaming here.  The Pigs have quite a few pilots online at times, so I point them at an equal sized red dar.  I do not go to a field and hope someone will up with 16 Pigs in the air above it.  Try it sometime.  Pick the biggest red dar you can find, get the whole squad together, and fly right into it.  You will have fun.  I promise. :aok
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 16, 2011, 09:01:46 AM
I am going to give you an honest answer to your questions.  No flaming here.  The Pigs have quite a few pilots online at times, so I point them at an equal sized red dar.  I do not go to a field and hope someone will up with 16 Pigs in the air above it.  Try it sometime.  Pick the biggest red dar you can find, get the whole squad together, and fly right into it.  You will have fun.  I promise. :aok

see i wouldnt have a problem with that, but the thing is we have people that can manage a fighter and then we have people that are lucky to get off a carrier. So say we had 20 guys do what your saying, about only 10 would last atleast 3 min.


I feel compelled to mention that the reason no one came up to fight was becasue you had two other hordes of about 20 guys striking two other bases at the same time. They more or less rightly considered it a distraction once it became clear you weren't attacking the town, so really the only guys that came up were people without any good sense or experience I didn't stick around in the flak once it was clear you weren't after the town that's for sure. "Starting fights" doesn't work if you've also got hordes of guys rolling other bases like two sectors away.

sorry wasn't us. the only mission we had was the d3a's at the time. so maybe it was another skill less horde, because there is more than a few with the bish,but the only ones that get labeled with that is us.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: IrishOne on May 16, 2011, 09:04:14 AM
Looks like a bunch of crackheads rummaging around on the floor fighting for the last crumb.

Even though it is only a piece of carpet lint...


  :rofl   classic!
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: EskimoJoe on May 16, 2011, 09:05:04 AM
see i wouldnt have a problem with that, but the thing is we have people that can manage a fighter and then we have people that are lucky to get off a carrier. So say we had 20 guys do what your saying, about only 10 would last atleast 3 min.


I mean, everybody already knew that your group was a hoard
of skilless monkies, but admitting half your squad can't even
get off the carrier?

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

By god, don't teach them how or anything!
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 16, 2011, 09:07:36 AM
I mean, everybody already knew that your group was a hoard
of skilless monkies, but admitting half your squad can't even
get off the carrier?

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

By god, don't teach them how or anything!

to teach someone something they have to be willing to learn. if their not willing to learn then yes, there are a bunch a skilless monkies.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: 68ZooM on May 16, 2011, 09:38:37 AM
to teach someone something they have to be willing to learn. if their not willing to learn then yes, there are a bunch a skilless monkies.

if there not willing to learn then cut the fat loose, quantity is not better than quality
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Butcher on May 16, 2011, 09:43:16 AM
I mean, everybody already knew that your group was a hoard
of skilless monkies, but admitting half your squad can't even
get off the carrier?

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

By god, don't teach them how or anything!

He isn't kidding, last night a Knit carrier ran into a bishop carrier right before the Vhorde showed up, I fired my first salvo around 16k and the same time a handful of v's were taking off, boom 3 kills - only wish I had a screenshot because the second the round hit, someone turned that CV while another 5-6 were taking off and they splashed into the water. Only one I seen actually made it off the carrier out of the handful before the CV was sunk, I'm sure quite a few of those were ditches and the rest were screaming "Who turned the CV" in high pitched voices.

Same carrier, that 10 minutes ago had over 60 bish swarm an airfield, take it and leave it undefended for our carrier to retake it under 10 minutes.

I actually upped the second I seen that 60 vHorde zerg, by time I got to the field there wasn't a bishop in sight, they took the base and landed already onto the next NOE.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 16, 2011, 09:53:01 AM
He isn't kidding, last night a Knit carrier ran into a bishop carrier right before the Vhorde showed up, I fired my first salvo around 16k and the same time a handful of v's were taking off, boom 3 kills - only wish I had a screenshot because the second the round hit, someone turned that CV while another 5-6 were taking off and they splashed into the water. Only one I seen actually made it off the carrier out of the handful before the CV was sunk, I'm sure quite a few of those were ditches and the rest were screaming "Who turned the CV" in high pitched voices.

Same carrier, that 10 minutes ago had over 60 bish swarm an airfield, take it and leave it undefended for our carrier to retake it under 10 minutes.

I actually upped the second I seen that 60 vHorde zerg, by time I got to the field there wasn't a bishop in sight, they took the base and landed already onto the next NOE.


we rarely do NOE and we rarely have 60 members on. last night we had 12-13 on.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: VonMessa on May 16, 2011, 10:05:02 AM
we rarely do NOE and we rarely have 60 members on. last night we had 12-13 on.

Really?

Since last week?

By the way, I didn't see you hiding behind any billboards in the past 7 days...
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Butcher on May 16, 2011, 10:19:21 AM
we rarely do NOE and we rarely have 60 members on. last night we had 12-13 on.

NOE stands for "Nap of the Earth" in which you fly under 200ft to avoid Radar so nobody "scrambles" from an undefended base. God Forbids anyone actually defends a base, I mean vDallas would really go Vox crazy. And last night was at least easily over 30 at the knight field, so granted your 12-13 plus however else you got in the NOE/mission.

Good question though, How many planes is 2 and a half dar bars?
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: IrishOne on May 16, 2011, 10:26:02 AM
NOE stands for "Nap of the Earth" in which you fly under 200ft to avoid Radar so nobody "scrambles" from an undefended base. God Forbids anyone actually defends a base, I mean vDallas would really go Vox crazy. And last night was at least easily over 30 at the knight field, so granted your 12-13 plus however else you got in the NOE/mission.

Good question though, How many planes is 2 and a half dar bars?

i believe a red darbar is relative to how many green planes are in a sector, say 30 red guys and 15 green guys, you have a full dar and half a green one, or 60 red and 30 green, full and half.   at least that's what i think.    i could be wrong, i know i'll be corrected if i am  :D
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Soulyss on May 16, 2011, 10:40:06 AM
see i wouldnt have a problem with that, but the thing is we have people that can manage a fighter and then we have people that are lucky to get off a carrier. So say we had 20 guys do what your saying, about only 10 would last atleast 3 min.

Refreshing to see a mission devoid of the usual suspects (51, 190, Typhoon, 110, etc).  I gotta agree with Lepape on this one, looks like a lot of fun potential.

To speak to the quote above, I think it's important to not let fear of "failure" stop you.  So you try it any some people in your squad only last 1 minute in the fight, after a few more tries maybe the last 2 minutes, and so on till they get more confidence and develop more.  It's been a long time but I still recall what it felt like when I was starting out, and although it was a different game back then (far fewer people online, and a much more limited plane set) I remember taking off in my P-51 and hoping that I wouldn't run into anyone higher than me because I would be completely lost in a fight if I couldn't dive from above to attack, one of the best parts about learning and getting better is being free from that little nagging voice in the back of my head when I used to take off. 

While failure, or losing can be frustrating, and is a lot less fun than winning it's also often the only way to learn new things especially when trying something new.  When I was in college a professor told me that if I was comfortable with what I was doing then I probably wasn't learning anything.  Ultimately it's all about fun and doing what you find enjoyment in doing so please don't interpret this as an attempt to tell you or anyone else how to play, I just wanted to offer up an alternate point of view.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 16, 2011, 10:51:18 AM
Refreshing to see a mission devoid of the usual suspects (51, 190, Typhoon, 110, etc).  I gotta agree with Lepape on this one, looks like a lot of fun potential.

To speak to the quote above, I think it's important to not let fear of "failure" stop you.  So you try it any some people in your squad only last 1 minute in the fight, after a few more tries maybe the last 2 minutes, and so on till they get more confidence and develop more.  It's been a long time but I still recall what it felt like when I was starting out, and although it was a different game back then (far fewer people online, and a much more limited plane set) I remember taking off in my P-51 and hoping that I wouldn't run into anyone higher than me because I would be completely lost in a fight if I couldn't dive from above to attack, one of the best parts about learning and getting better is being free from that little nagging voice in the back of my head when I used to take off. 

While failure, or losing can be frustrating, and is a lot less fun than winning it's also often the only way to learn new things especially when trying something new.  When I was in college a professor told me that if I was comfortable with what I was doing then I probably wasn't learning anything.  Ultimately it's all about fun and doing what you find enjoyment in doing so please don't interpret this as an attempt to tell you or anyone else how to play, I just wanted to offer up an alternate point of view.

i agree completely, we try to offer help to some, and some take it, others just refuse the help becasue they think that they already know everything. so i just let them have their way.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 16, 2011, 10:53:35 AM
Really?

Since last week?

By the way, I didn't see you hiding behind any billboards in the past 7 days...

wasnt on much last week due to work, so they may have gone NOE. But when im usually on we dont go NOE much. Im usually not behind a bilboard, if im behind anything its going to be a guard rail/bridge at night with the lights off.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 16, 2011, 10:57:22 AM
NOE stands for "Nap of the Earth" in which you fly under 200ft to avoid Radar so nobody "scrambles" from an undefended base. God Forbids anyone actually defends a base, I mean vDallas would really go Vox crazy. And last night was at least easily over 30 at the knight field, so granted your 12-13 plus however else you got in the NOE/mission.

Good question though, How many planes is 2 and a half dar bars?

Sorry, but like i said, there were only 12-13 Brigade members on lastnight. I cant be held accountable for anyone else that joins in with us. Sometimes we do Ops with other squads, just to make the horde so much larger and noobish just to get more whines on BBS/200. And i know what NOE stands for, i'v been around for awhile, but thanks for explaining.  :aok
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: Soulyss on May 16, 2011, 11:02:10 AM
i agree completely, we try to offer help to some, and some take it, others just refuse the help becasue they think that they already know everything. so i just let them have their way.

Yeah, you can't help those who won't accept it. :)

You can try pointing out that some people here have been doing this for a very long time, I've been playing AH for 11 years and I'll be the first to admit that I don't know everything yet, far from it in fact. :)
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: RufusLeaking on May 16, 2011, 11:07:51 AM
The Pigs have quite a few pilots online at times, so I point them at an equal sized red dar. 
But, do you do it in D3As? P-40Bs?

Refreshing to see a mission devoid of the usual suspects (51, 190, Typhoon, 110, etc).  I gotta agree with Lepape on this one, looks like a lot of fun potential.
 
Recently, Soulyss and company ran a P-40B sweep. I remember because he roped me in my 205 and pinged me to death.  :salute

Bottom line is having fun. For me, it is upping the occasional hangar queen. Against a horde of D3As?  A Hurricane Mk1, an I-16, or maybe a Brewster.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: waystin2 on May 16, 2011, 11:12:35 AM
But, do you do it in D3As? P-40Bs?

Yes in C.202's, 109F's, Stukas in fighter mode, etc.  You name it, we have done it.  We have regretted it, but we have done it... :rofl

 :salute

Way
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: VonMessa on May 16, 2011, 11:12:55 AM
wasnt on much last week due to work, so they may have gone NOE. But when im usually on we dont go NOE much. Im usually not behind a bilboard, if im behind anything its going to be a guard rail/bridge at night with the lights off.

Well...

I was looking for ya :)

in:

Augusta
Atlanta
Newnan
Columbus
Macon
Statesboro
and Savannah

 :neener:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 16, 2011, 11:14:02 AM
Yeah, you can't help those who won't accept it. :)

You can try pointing out that some people here have been doing this for a very long time, I've been playing AH for 11 years and I'll be the first to admit that I don't know everything yet, far from it in fact. :)

i'v been doing it for 9 years and i dont know it all. Theres alot i dont know. But i just try to have fun. But then theres others who try to tell you what you should be doing, because thats the only way to play. So  :salute sir, for not attacking me personally, or my squad as a whole. we're just trying to have fun, no matter what are skill set is, it doesn't really matter, the point is we are having fun.
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: BowHTR on May 16, 2011, 11:16:01 AM
Well...

I was looking for ya :)

in:

Augusta
Atlanta
Newnan
Columbus
Macon
Statesboro
and Savannah

 :neener:


come further south down I-75. Once you come past mile marker 152 heading south on I-75 you will be in my territory.  :D
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: VonMessa on May 16, 2011, 11:20:23 AM
come further south down I-75. Once you come past mile marker 152 heading south on I-75 you will be in my territory.  :D

No thanks.

I kept vigil on the speedo in GA...

I know that fines are set by each county and could be anywhere up to $700 depending on the county.  :O
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: RufusLeaking on May 16, 2011, 12:45:39 PM
I kept vigil on the speedo in GA...
Please don't post any self protraits in a speedo.  :bolt:
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: VonMessa on May 16, 2011, 12:52:19 PM
Please don't post any self protraits in a speedo.  :bolt:

No worries of that.

I wouldn't want to embarrass anyone...
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: grizz441 on May 16, 2011, 12:55:37 PM
Refreshing to see a mission devoid of the usual suspects (51, 190, Typhoon, 110, etc).  I gotta agree with Lepape on this one, looks like a lot of fun potential.

+1
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: YGSM on May 16, 2011, 06:06:52 PM
That was funny as Helllll, Thank you. 



As my Squaddie has so deeply commented on.  We took advantage of the stupid High ENY and had some fun with crappy airplanes.   We still have to endure the shame of being the HORDE.  All you have to do is defend and hunt and dont stop and furball!  Our tactics are simple yet the defenders do the samething time and time again.  It is a great time for all!
Title: Re: Horde waited for defenders to show up.
Post by: pervert on May 16, 2011, 06:36:36 PM
 :rofl